Our Story: Infertility, IVF and Peri Menopause

[@TheThackrays82]

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[@elizabeth2732]

What a truly lovely couple you are ❤

[@SarahBaker-y3m]

My son is 54yrs old but now I never see him and having lost my husband a few months ago I am on my own with no one at all in my life. So having children is not the b all and end all.. Always love your videos.x

[@TheThackrays82]

Xxxxxx

[@sarahwaters8830]

WoW Gary is amazingly supportive... It is a joy to come across a man who accepts Life, has the insight and wisdom to realise that sometimes a woman is going through peri menopause/or whatever and he accepts it. Wonderful that he says that it frees up the treatment for another couple. In my experience, from the older generation, a man would punish/humiliate a woman who could not give him children, to continue the family line, or bend to his will and wants. Gary and Claire, thank you for sharing your Story, having the courage to share it, as it is healing me and helps me realise that there are indeed good, kind, loving, supportive men out there who want the best for their special woman. An amazing gift you both give us..... thank you.

[@Aurora2023-eo7in]

Thank you for this brilliant video. You two are amazing xx

[@karenwalsh7014]

Wonderful video you guys. I remember making the decision to have children and certainly don't regret it but it did change my life for sure. Claire, you are a really insightful, interesting tarot reader and you tuber and I doubt you'd have the bandwidth to be able to do that without getting cranky and becoming an insomniac! You are an extraordinary couple with the ability to communicate with each other. That's huge. Thanks for telling your story. Nutters? I am a Kennedy fanatic like you Claire. I'm alot older than you so I was eleven when he was killed. But, supposedly Jackie left instructions that tapes and transcripts about his death would only be released 50 years after her death. Arthur Schlesinger, sat down with Jackie on tape to discuss the assassination. She revealed what she thought about it. It would be interesting to hear a tarot reader do an interpretation on that. Also, would like to hear your story about how you got into reading tarot cards. :-)

[@moonchick]

Such a beautiful authentic couple. Thank you for sharing Claire and Gary 🙏🏻 💕xx

[@jhawkins8264]

Dear Claire and Gary, thank you for sharing your personal experience and for your honesty and humbleness in disclosing it. After being married for 6 years and trying for a child with no success, we decided to go for adoption and after a further two-year wait, adopted a sweet baby boy. Have you considered taking that route? No everyone is cut out for parenthood, and it should never imo feel like an obligation, but I have a feeling you both would make wonderful parents to a child who needs a loving home and a great start in life. All best wishes to you!

[@hannahdarosanutrition]

You two 💕. Your authenticity is a refreshing tonic. We did IVF and it didn't work, & it took a few years for me to recover physically - they don't warn us about that! Yes, there are so many positives to being childless in today's crazy world 😊xx

[@mandydalton3867]

Love you both Claire and Gary, love listening to your chats. You’re a fantastic couple and your genuine honesty is so refreshing. Everyone is different, and there is nothing wrong with wanting children or not wanting children, I totally believe in “what is meant to be, is meant to be”. Xxx

[@PoppysMum2]

Great to hear an alternative point of view. Whenever I thought about having children, I always saw the downsides - lack of time, less money, lack of sleep, losing your own identity, having to always do what the kids want, wondering how they would turn out (you can’t choose what you get) what if they were born disabled, how would I cope? (that was a biggie), juggling career and childcare how would I cope, the sheer extra hard working involved in having kids - cooking, cleaning, shopping, bed-changing, school runs, their hobbies etc. Need I go on? Now in my 60s I know I made the right decision and I regret nothing

[@nannyplum0194]

Thank you for your honesty. It's a personal choice for a lot of people.

[@TJ-to8ls]

I know its not a couples chat but I would love to hear your journey of tarot reading and when you first realise you had a gift

[@helendolan7716]

Thank you for your story xx

[@pimmspimms5462]

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, Claire and Gary. I can’t tell you how much this video - and your honesty - has helped to comfort me. We’re in a very similar boat to you… I’m 42 and haven’t been able to have children. I ADORE children but, like you, we also decided against IVF. We didn’t want to put ourselves and our relationship through the stress and financial hardship and chose, instead, to focus on building a life and loving union with just the two of us. It’s like Gary says, we get to focus on each other - without children pulling attention away - and that does feel very special and nurturing. Does that make sense? It’s like we are growing, supporting and nurturing each other instead of a child. My difficulty is that I often feel guilty that, because of me, my partner hasn’t been able to have a family. If he’d chosen another woman, she might have been able to give what I can’t. He never does or says anything to make me feel this way… he loves and accepts me, as I am… it’s just my own internal struggle with guilt. I’m so glad to hear that you’ve come to peace with your situation (“There’s gifts in having children and gifts in not having children,” is so true, Claire!). I hope that, with time, I’ll also feel complete peace and acceptance. I’m getting there. I’ve since been diagnosed with Coeliac Disease and wonder if it caused my infertility. This can be one of the symptoms. It’s *fascinating* that you also have problems with gluten, Claire!!! We’re the only ones in our family and friendship group who do not have children. It feels quite isolating because there’s no one to talk to about these feelings around childlessness, because no one can relate to them… it makes me feel like an alien! And separated from other women. So, it’s amazing to listen to you both and hear so much of my own story. You’re helping so many people, Claire and Gary, and we’re incredibly grateful to you, x P.S: I was also told by a psychic that I would have lots of children! 🤦‍♀️☺️

[@wintermoon6784]

Thank you both for been so honest ! I had a baby at 42 and with gods grace she was perfect !

[@lisafarrell-moxon7516]

Claire and Gary, I love your vlogs! Your honesty is refreshing and you are a lovely, genuine couple. Me and my hubby don’t have kids as having a family was just never on the agenda for us and there’s no reason other than it just wasn’t something we wanted. We are now in our mid 50’s and don’t regret our decision for a second. We all make our choices and this was ours. xx

[@ellap364]

Claire you are so right.....even adult children need caring. Not everyone marries...and that too is something ingrained in society. I divorced at 25 and never remarried. I live in a small country town where everyone is predominantly married. I do notice certain things 😊 but I don't let it bother me. God Bless you two. You are so gorgeous 💗 Being childless is also ingrained. Being at peace internally is the key.

[@kathypr1987]

I appreciate your honesty, your bravery, and your struggle. You two have a great relationship! There are lots of worse things than being married to a wonderful person and going through life together. xx

[@Chgdakini]

Not everyone is meant to be married, and not everyone is meant to be a parent or have biological children. Lots of ways to create and lots of ways to birth many projects and a life of fulfillment. Plus, there is the choice not to bring children into the world… to be childfree.

[@lindamizak-rg6zu]

Hi Claire and Gary…love your honesty in this KZbin video. To be child free opens up life to many possibilities and blessings…you are such a lovely couple…❤️

[@juliequinlan6564]

You and me both Claire! I’d never heard of perimenopause until I was 43 and was already in the perimenopause. I actually felt like a fool for not knowing what it meant? When I spoke to friends they all said “what’s that”, so I didn’t feel so foolish. I’m so glad that it’s spoken about now for women. I had always heard of the menopause and thought the whole thing from start to finish was called menopause! I had symptoms in my late 30’s but didn’t relate them to the menopause?

[@camellia907]

It's great that you've both come to terms with it and have justified it in your minds, with all those reasons. I too went through the pain of infertility and recurrent miscarriages. Being pregnant every time was a wonderous journey, and losing our baby over and over again was agonising. It felt like unfinished business. So we decided to adopt. I know people can be very negative about adoption - but truly she's the light of our lives, a little ray of sunshine. I'm so thankful that we took this route. I love the school run, the birthday parties, the princess dresses etc etc. I was a workaholic before and now my life revolves around my lirtle girl, and I can see how empty the corporate world that I was so enmeshed in before, really was. I just wanted to add balance to the discussion.

[@pamelawatson2366]

My husband and I have not had children. We decided against IVF and it was a big adjustment to make. Now in our 60's , I can't imagine how we would have coped with children. There are compensations and we are happy with our lot. We all have our own journeys to take and living authentically brings a deep satisfaction.

[@TJ-to8ls]

I had my only daughter at the age of 28, coming from a large irish family it was sort of ingrained, I would not change a thing for a moment and absolutely adore my daughter, she is now 31 and has no desire to marry or have children, I kept thinking I dont want her to be alone when her dad and myself pass, but I realised she is very focused and confident and has an amazing group of friends that I know will be there for her. What will be will be and I will support her in all she does. Thankyou for your honesty and another wonderful video x

[@carrie227]

Thank you for sharing your story♥️ I’ve been sick at home and I’ve watched a few of your videos, feels like I spent my day with you! What a lovely couple you and Gary are, been enjoying your videos! 💐💐💐

[@Pixie-ix1so]

Hi Claire & Gary. Thank you for being so honest. I had 2 children and lost them and my ex husband at 46. I am enjoying my freedom now. It took a while, and sometimes I felt guilty, but not now, and I don't feel alone. Bless you both. Create that happiness. It's wonderful. It's Freedom. I started Menopause after a total hysterectomy at 28. My son was 1. It was hard, and I felt as though my womanhood had been stripped from me. But looking back, it was such a blessing. No more unbearable pain and passing out and vomiting caused by very invasive and extensive endometriosis. ❤. Loved the natter!

[@sallyterry5358]

Just love your videos you both are so down to earth Gary is such a nice man you both seem so well suited ❤

[@brendab1614]

You are both so couragious and honest ❤ much love to you both

[@annettagardippie3469]

Claire and Gary thank you for sharing your story. What a lovely couple you are, just made for each other.

[@pimmspimms5462]

I agree! Claire and Gary are completely lovely together, x

[@LuckyLadyTarot]

Great video,🇨🇦

[@eh6454]

I cut gluten out of my diet 8 years ago, and as you say, it has made such a positive difference to my health! 😊 Wish I’d done it decades ago! Have also cut out dairy and eggs as sensitive x

[@angiecraig2193]

Thanks for your honesty I think this does need to be talked about more I have friends that choose not to have children they have a lovely life together nice holiday hobby together I can see why it really works for some would choose this option x

[@annettemartin7170]

Love you two...i went through heaps until IVF... i told my husband not doing it ..end of !! And glad i didnt. ❤❤❤❤

[@louisehyden4802]

Hi Claire & Gary , another great video from you guy's on such a controversial subject. Well said 👏 on the subject of not having children, good to hear from Gary's point of view ..... I have children and grandchildren and it's not always a bed of roses ..... I struggled with the pregnancy both times and had post natal depression. 35 year's ago we we're told to just get on with it 😢 coming from a mother and grandmother that weren't very maternal is difficult also . My mother in law once told me that because I had children and they weren't the be all in my life .... I worked and had other interests ..... she told me I was selfish and odd ..... sometimes we have to learn how to be a mother because we're not always programmed that way . Great that we can actually share our stories and that there's no judgement. Great chat guy's. Much love ❤

[@jhawkins8264]

@louisehyden Sounds like you had a "rum" family Louise, with not much support for not feeling/acting like a Madonna mother all the way! I adopted a child and was actually happy to avoid pregnancy completely. felt perfectly fine as a woman without going through all that awful pain etc. As you say, motherhood is not all roses, it's also dependent on the mix of personalities involved. and some women just have more natural maternal instinct than others ... .. thanks for sharing your story, and I hope you are having many happy days at this time of your life! xx

[@beckymccune5892]

I applaud you Claire & Gary for your honesty about these subjects. It is true that peri menopause can basically wreak havoc on our bodies. I was blessed with 2 daughters in my early twenties but, it became mandatory for me to have a tubal ligation. However; when I remarried, my husband & I learned it had not worked. Unfortunately i suffered 3 miscarriages.. finally after 3 DNC’s it put me straight into full blown menopause. I also suffered the mood swings, the hormonal cysts on my face. I decided to go a more herbal therapy due to me not being able to do hormonal therapy & also my beliefs that I want to keep my body clean of medication because, I’m very sensitive to it, & my spiritual beliefs.I also do a diet based on my metabolic hormonal stage&#. I take black kohosh for the hot flashes & is a miracle. I will say, I commend you both for realizing that fostering or adopting is not for everyone.

[@jillgracenicholson8243]

What a generosity in sharing what you have. I was unable to have children. I have been a counsellor for 25 years and I work with the wounding in the child part of the adult. So I think this has been my purpose. I help the child part ‘re grow’ up integrating what was missing and healing trauma imprints. I also worked with women with Postnatal Depression and you are spot on. This is such an outstanding video. Big thanks to you and Gary xxx ❤

[@sweet68pea]

hubby and me got married when i was 30 i also became disabled we thought of adoption but was told i was told i was to old then hubby had problems so we decided no if i cant have children with hubby then no i didn't want children. so i then had the lining of womb taken away

[@costaismysin]

I firmly believe in ,if it's meant for you it will happen . Everything happens for a reason .xxx

[@liziyarn]

You Definitely made the Right Decision Children are ALOT OF WORK.. Never Ending.. And it Does not stop.. Even in their teens... You Really Don't have A Life.. Until they leave the Nest which with the price of living NEVER LEAVE HOME... Not to Mention the $$$. 😂😅😂

[@ellap364]

Gosh I needed to hear this today. Thankyou so much! I wish I could have a cup of tea with you both I love your energies. A big hug from a wounded warrior in Australia 💝🙏💝

[@candytots4874]

Hi Claire & garry ,I'm so happy when people like yourself, give their true ,truths ,because society thinks ,we have all to be like our parents & ancestors, in other words ,to follow the crowd, we are entitled to be authentic in ,our decisions, without being judged,I love 💘yous,just think ,yous wouldn't be able to help all those people with your gifts ,if yous had kids.this is you & Garry's path claire,thankyou❤❤ both,for being ,your true selves xx

[@sue7621]

The great awakening! The best is yet to come! ❤️💜❤️🕊️🙏🌎

[@livingfornow23]

How strange. The watery eyes the spots. Ect I'm going grey I'm 38. I also had problems conceiving my first child. After tests and operations I went for ivf. I had my beautiful baby girl who is now 11. I naturally conceived my second Child a son. Without ivf id never of had my girly ❤ you really are very brave hunnie. ❤

[@samantharees5559]

I’d heard of peri menopause but only when I was halfway through mine, and it gradually got better and better, certainly where mood swings were concerned for me, thankfully. Now I’m on the other side and it’s great, apart from the occasional hot flushes but I know what triggers them now so try to avoid them. Thanks for sharing your journey. I always wanted 4 children, have one and he’s gorgeous but circumstances changed and it is what it is. I also worked with a lady who said she felt discriminated against, tongue in cheek, because our workplace tried to give holidays at school holiday time to parents or grandparents, I can’t remember her saying “but why not me?”. Everyone has their own journey and it’s lovely to hear that you’re settled emotionally with yours. Future natters - what do your families think about your life choices, ie career, downsizing, moving away? And how do you feel about their thoughts? How do you fit them in, make time? Finally, I also had watering eyes during peri and just realised watching this that I hardly have that anymore, so there’s hope 😊

[@Magsmc57]

You both are so honest and I totally respect you both with your honesty and your journey. I could listen to you all day long ❤ I have 3 daughters and lonely they don’t always stay around. I would never stop my children doing their own thing. Anyway I enjoy your chats thank you ❤🙏🏻❤️🤗😘you can have regrets with children

[@MV-xh4gv]

You two are on a unique journey - lots of spiritual growth (menopause is the pits, such a relief to get to the other side - 10yrs).

[@denisebamford9351]

Hi i also stopped dyeing my hair 18 months ago got fed up of the tread mill of re growth my hair is more or less pure grey/white 😂 but ive got used to it now and its very freeing ❤👍 love your programme and enjoy watching all 3 channels 💐❤️🌻

[@karenwilkes2220]

Great natter as per usual, Gary it might be the lactose not dairy. Taking that out of my diet has made a big difference, just lactose free milk, cheese etc no funny milk like soya etc. I was told as a teenager I wouldn't be able to get pregnant without help, mixed emotions. If I knew then what I knew now maybe I would have looked into it more, but I have always been grateful I knew early so would never have to deal with trying & failing and having a partner go through that too.

[@denisecahill8993]

thankyou gary and claire for your inspirational work.helping others that go through the same, i did want children . but my life meant i did,nt have any, i got on with it and accepted they wer,nt meant for me. i know there is a reason xx

[@MV-xh4gv]

You two will make it!! May love & light shine on your path

[@irismoles9369]

Thanks for sharing your story love these chats

[@LizOConnell-k4g]

❤ LOTS OF LOVE 2 U BOTH AND THANKS 4 SHARING , APPRECIATE U BOTH XX 37:11

[@deborasparkle1208]

Luckily I had my sons in my late teens & early twenties. I developed a large fibriod in my forties. On the subject of going grey, I tried to let my hair go grey, even though I'm almost 64. I felt old & not myself, so I will be coloring my hair forever.

[@MV-xh4gv]

Thank you for sharing such a personal story. Your communication skills are on point. Claire, women & men have truly been liberated to lead purposeful & authentic lives. Bless ❤

[@clairebarrett3048]

You made me cry, thank you for this video. Am so sorry to hear this, much much love to both of you. Really appreciate your videos, very sad indeed. God has other plans for you two. ❤❤❤❤❤ Your videos make me feel better as I struggle with my mental health. Thank you both. Xxxxx

[@yougogirl212]

What a beautiful couple you are! You both display such honesty and strength. It’s a difficult adjustment but, you have such a healthy outlook. Thank you for sharing your story. Much love and light❤️💨

[@aligrinney7883]

So lovely, thank you both for your candour and your positive outlook ❤❤

[@diannevenner-kc6gu]

Hi Claire and Gary thank you for sharing your story and journey. You two are blessed you got each other. As another commenter said just who would bring a baby into this world now?. It's tricky so stressful you've avoided all that.

[@juliemason4902]

Thank you for sharing your story.❤

[@Myraisins1]

Thanks for sharing your story. It was all over for me by the time I was 34yrs old in full menopause. I never fully recovered.

[@laurenlouise12]

Beautiful, thank you so much for sharing this. So many of my friends who’ve explored IVF have found they have PCOS/insulin resistance and when they started to get that under control with lifestyle they had natural success. Yet no one tells us this! So wonderful you’re finding out how your body is tolerating gluten and what’s right for you. I had my first (and right now only) baby boy in August 2020. Postpartum depression hit hard, and never fully recovered my energy. It’s so hard not having some independent time to do as I please, which I miss although of course love him so much and feel so lucky to have him and be his mom. Life is just different than before- There are just always trade offs as you say. So there is beauty in deciding to no longer try, as I’ve been making the decision if to try for a second or not and I don’t take that decision lightly. I find other women asking when I’m going to have more like it’s an assumption but we all have to do what’s best for us ❤ It’s been a delight seeing your videos together, keep them coming! :)

[@rhonaorr492]

Beautiful story thanks for sharing! I had never heard of perimenopause either xx love u two xxx

[@michellejenkins5922]

Claire I was told I'd never have children imagine my total shock when I became pregnant the problem wasn't getting pregnant it was keeping the child to full term. I was blessed 3 times out of 7 no type of prevention worked until I was sterilized and that was due to an eptopic that burst.

[@Rosanne1965]

Hi Claire… I had the same reply… what the hell is peri menopause when I turned 40. Reco supplement for the symptoms : serelys peri menopause. Can be found on Amazon or a naturopath clinic. Very helpful with the hot flashes, mood, etc. The gluten, dairy and red meat and processed foods especially with MSG in it are foods to avoid with hormone / autoimmune issues. I had the same thought if it was meant to be then it’s meant to be having a child.

[@susangreen8087]

I never had children and never wanted kids , my family made up for me ❤ and I'm close to a niece and her child , but my love has always been pets and I'm happy .but have had freinds been heartbroken 💔 not having kids and have had so much to give a child 😢.xx

[@sianprice7210]

My dear late Dad was born in 1922 and he had 4 older sisters. 3 out of his 4 sisters never had any children. Very high statistics for back in those days. Thanks for sharing guys. Love, Health & Happiness ❤❤

[@meTWO2323]

Two friends have had this problem (1st child in 40's). They both did acupuncture & voila! Preggo! I would also do complete thyroid panels. There's also a doctor in Greece that has had success in post-menopause pregnancies.

[@suejones2815]

You both seem contented with the life you have

[@devasadhvi]

THIS has been so helpful.

[@daniellehuard5872]

Hi Claire, I did not know that gluten had an effect on hormones. As I started my menopause I started getting so sick to my stomach and ha ing no energy. I started cutting out gluten from my diet and I felt so much better. I stayed on a gluten free diet ever since then. I also cut down on red meat since this is a protein with a lot of artificial hormones. The result is that I have very few menopause symptoms.

[@muskanrathoure1529]

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[@All_Things_ACE]

Thank you both for sharing your story. I think you will both help a lot of people to start openly discuss things maybe open up discussions between partners. I think being a parent gets harder as your children get older but I think each person’s perspective is different according to their circumstances. I have two daughters and five grandchildren. I saw two of my grandchildren born. My youngest grandson has suspected autism. My grandson was a huge learning curve for all of us but especially for my daughter and he has taught her so much especially on how to be a better version of herself and be a better parent. I think he was brought to us to teach us all. He is a very loving child. Both my daughters have grown up as very strong women who have very strong minds . My eldest daughter is a very good mum and is very maternal but is going through early perimenopause and has admitted recently that she struggles as a mum and with perimenopause. Her husband is a great support to her. My younger daughter is a single parent and her two daughters have both struggled with mental health and the younger daughter is struggling with depression and bullying. My granddaughter said recently she doesn’t want children but is drawn to be creative in the form of writing. She is into tarot and crystals. Her eldest sister is extremely supportive but she also knows what she wants out of life I am there to support my daughter and my three grandchildren by as much as I can as my youngest daughter is a single parent and has suffered much heartbreak. My other daughter although married l also support and my other two grandchildren, and both my daughter sometimes struggle how to cope but in different ways because of their different situations. I have my parents and sisters around so they both have an extended family and my husband who doesn’t have children of his own, both of my daughters value his support as a stepdad. He thinks highly of them and of my grandchildren. So although you can struggle as a parent of young children, helping your children through challenging situations and struggles can get harder as you get older because being a parent never stops. It’s a 24/7 365 days a year job for the rest of your life. Have you both considered how your struggles and problems have affected your parentis? And that’s not about them having grandchildren it’s about them wanting to take away any form of struggle or pain whether that be emotional or mental or physical from you. I know when my daughter mentioned her own struggles with being a mother and perimenopause I let her talk about it and listened. We talked about what might help. I had ovary removal 14 years ago and that made my hormones go absolutely crazy to the point of breakdown. 2 years later blood tests stated perimenopause and it’s not over yet. It’s getting easier now as the time has gone on but I think you are both taking a very positive view of it. I don’t think there should be any fear involved everyone is different - so everyone should approach it differently but view it as another stage of your life. For some women they see it as liberating and being comfortable with themselves and the time where they can focus on themselves, self care and new hair/ make up and beauty routines and diet, exercise etc. It should be embraced. Children have their own unique gifts but also not having children i think many more people will decide that this is the path that is for them. I don’t think i come from a particular maternal line - in my maternal family my mother and grandmother make better grandparents than they did mothers and it’s a chain I wanted to break but i don’t think I did. As I can remember consciously wanting to be more maternal than my mother and trying. At the end of the day you can only try your best at anything in this life and make the decisions that you feel is right for you. Would I have made the same decisions again if I knew what I knew now about having children- absolutely. My children were probably the best gifts I have been given. Has it always been a bed of roses? Most definitely not but life isn’t a bed of roses. Much love ❤

[@annhope4762]

Lovely couple, enjoyed your video.

[@njp]

I am sure your honesty and chatting very candidly both of you will really be a fantastic source of help to a lot of people. It really is refreshing that couples can share all kinds of issues in their marriage 💜

[@BLUEBELL258]

;My friend worries every time her young son goes out on the field to play football with all this knife crime. We didn't have this years ago. Anyway, think how lucky you are to have each other.

[@angieetheridge6386]

Thankyou for sharing your story ❤ we as a couple have been through it.. We had our daughter, but the age of 36 I had to have a full hysterectomy, went straight into menopause, my daughter is now going through the perri menopause.. And herself and her husband not having children.. They never wanted them... But I was a midwifery assistant and nurse, and iv seen people going through that roller-coaster ride... I always have said life is a fantastic journey, we go through alot and we learn to move forward.. Keep safe you 2 ❤

[@MichelleClewes]

Bless you both, I'm sure you have been on a different path brilliant parents but I'm sure collectively, the role you have both been spiritually, you wouldn't have been able to do what you both do today. You have both inspired allot of the public that have been through a higher spiritual being like myself, you have helped me so much. Without you Claire especially, I thought I was the only one going through what you have been through. I thought I was going mad. Such a relief you are our future mentor. 💗 Thank you whole heartedly.x

[@Melodyflea]

Claire and Gary, thank you for sharing your journey. You two sure have figured a bunch of things out and good for you......wonderful insights you two have.♥♥♥

[@WendyBaker-c9o]

Hi Claire and Gary, thank you for sharing your journey. ❤❤

[@martinelongum2439]

My parents knew several couples with no children : some were artists and some had fosterchildren ..I am 69 at that time I think some also lived secretely as homosexuals and then had no children …❤ So many subcultures - find the one that accept you

[@MichelleClewes]

I love watching you two as you are part of the now reality world. I can't watch Hollywood and the people on our world stage as i could before. You hae both brought me back to my love of books. I'm there on the same path as you two. I'm so sorry, gary can't eat certain foods like myself. I have Crohn's disease. It's a thing that has to be highlighted. ❤

[@stregadisalem732]

Its the way that gluten is processed as well. I don’t think our grandparents generation had as many issues with gluten. Now celiac disease and gluten intolerance is more common.

[@C.Barbour]

❤ thank you!

[@mariehassall2428]

Thank you for sharing your journey.

[@sue7621]

Be happy 🙌🙌❤️💜❤️🤗😘🥰🙏🌎

[@lululovestoplan5401]

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[@paulinetaylor2812]

I was and I had 3 children under five and that we what we wanted and there was,nt any so called mistakes but I loved it and never felt that I couldn,t cope, We had all the usual problems, we didn’t, have a lot of money etc but neither myself nor my husband ever thought it was because we had kids, we just gave our kids as good a life as we could with what we had, they were our world and still are. My daughter was 37 and 39 when she had her children and I don,t think it something they bother,d about that they are older parents.

[@MV-xh4gv]

Not such a great story but my ex-partner has been diagnosed with cancer & has commenced hormone treatment. I asked him about side effects & he said he’ll go through menopause. I laughed because I thought you have got no idea what that actually means - itchy, bitchy, scratchy, panicky, depressed, fat, tired, fatigued……..ect, ect.

[@BLUEBELL258]

Claire, who would bring a baby into this world. You have saved yourself lots of worry. My daughter and son don't have children.

[@All_Things_ACE]

I said this to my daughter recently 😢