Our Top Stable Neutral Running Shoes of 2024 (and Explaining What Stable Neutral Means)

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@daniel_nel 3 ай бұрын

You guys changed running and running shoe options for me. I used to think (was told) I need stable shoes. After other videos I went and bought the Adidas Boston 12 and it’s the best I felt running. No issues, less niggles and no injuries etc. Thank you!

@LukaMagic-hg3dk 3 ай бұрын

If you have the Asics Superblast 2, make sure to check if the insoles are still providing enough cushioning during long runs, especially if you've reached 150 km, particularly for those with high arches or who underpronate.

@chenchensdl 3 ай бұрын

Can you do a comparison between the two fast stability options: Hyperion 2 GTS vs Tempus? The Tempus has a super foam and has been my choice for fast running, but now the new Hyperion 2 GTS seems to also be a good option.

@ianmclean4919 3 ай бұрын

Thank you guys so much for all your dedication. I always look forward to all your videos, especially love these long ones. My daughters birthday is also in August, my wife and I also used to make slip and slides for our kids😊

@chadliu86 3 ай бұрын

I also have the glideride OG, the thing does live up to the name, the rocker was very aggressive but it is also very stiff which gives me pain for longer miles. So the softer foam and more flexible plate to me is a nice change

@spravnygazda 3 ай бұрын

Asics made the Supereblast 2 narrow in the toe box. Bought the same size as my Superblast 1 and found out only after 11km my big toe didn't have enough space. Now I can't return it... Avoid my mistake and if you have little wider feet, buy half size up, can save you a lot of money.

@JMFKorbl 6 күн бұрын

just saw Matt talking about this in his 100 mile review and he basically said it broke in (only haha) after 80 miles... hope it got better for you in the meantime!

@Chrysoss 3 ай бұрын

The Saucony Hurricane 24 is supposed to be a stability shoe but I think it fits this category too. No typical stability components but overall geometry makes it stable. Your thoughts?

@DoctorsofRunning 3 ай бұрын

It has pretty significant amounts of its stability components that make it more guided than stable neutral trainer in our book. A lot of stability shoes have become more widely usuable than past iterations which served a more specific need so it may be true that a lot of runners can use full stability shoes now than before, but the difference is pretty significant in how much stability a hurricane provides compared to most stable neutral shoes we feel. More sole flaring, some guidance built into the design and of course the huge base.

@jamisons2504 3 ай бұрын

This was an awesome topic. Thank you.

@gtromble 2 ай бұрын

NB 860 v14 is an awesome shoe - I'm a neutral runner and it's very versatile.

@DoctorsofRunning 2 ай бұрын

@@gtromble actually a top stability’ shoe for us in 2024!

@Brugalete 3 ай бұрын

Top nocht content as usual. My pick of stable neutral.shoes for trails would be the Brooks Caldera 7. Super wide heel flare on both sides to keep you centered, high sidewalls, glideroll rocker but slightly flexible in the forefoot to feel the ground a little bit. Keep up the good work.

@humbleopinion1 3 күн бұрын

Which shoe really suits a heel striking, flat footed but underpronating runner to get some ankle support ?

@chadliu86 3 ай бұрын

NB rebel v4 and SC trainer 3 seem pretty stable to me also. Really interested to get either one of those. I have the sc trainer OG, almost 400miles now, lost a lot of the pop but still feeling pretty cushioned.

@cristian-adrianfrasineanu9855 3 ай бұрын

Can you also discuss options for heavy supinators? Thanks!

@jaymueller2418 2 ай бұрын

This was a great podcast. I’m literally sitting on the curb finishing g my first run in the guide 17. So different to the Arahi that I have used in the setting of PTTD flares in the past and the Topo Ultrafly which i’ve loved as a more natural feel, less rocketed ride. Stabikity shoes for the PTTD flares and stable neutral for maintenance seems to work. The guide 17 i’d consider in both camps.

@Ben.StevenswithaV 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for finally describing the Ghost Max 2 & Ghost max how I experienced them. GM 2 is a lump.

@JMFKorbl 6 күн бұрын

2:54 Matt, the icks your talking about here, do you experience them right after (or during) a run when wearing 'these' neutral shoes? Or is this something which builds up (for you) and comes up after using these kinda 'neutral' shoes a couple of runs (or more)? Curious about your answer! :)

@TheValonquar 3 ай бұрын

I bought tri noosa 16 as a low drop option for daily/speed runs and appreciate some stability elements. Decent choice?

@jbgood71 2 ай бұрын

Can we have a podcast on PTT? I've been listening for a while now and haven't heard any in depth discussion on PTT, which is something I've been dealing with since I've started running about 1.5 years ago. I've done all sorts of strengthening exercises and corrected my form, but it still seems to be an issue when running longer distances (10k or more). On another note, I recently purchased the Saucony Hurricane 24 and think that this is by far the best stability shoe that I have ever worn.

@aristodiga82 2 ай бұрын

are there stable neutral shoes that are more speed oriented or lighter daily trainers? all of the shoes here seems to be more of a max cushioned ones (yes that includes the brooks hyperion max 2, IMO).

@DoctorsofRunning 3 ай бұрын

Happy Birthday to all you August babies! Send us your mailbag questions to doctorsofrunning@gmail.com

@itsahardmuttlife9263 3 ай бұрын

Have you guys done a video on carbon plate and nylon plate placement in super trainers and race shoes. For example either the plate is near the foot or closer to the ground. Which users would benefit from which shoe and why that is. Break those shoes out into separate categories. For example, all of the shoes in the near the foot category and all of the shoes near the ground category.

@enonek2960 3 ай бұрын

HBD 🎂🎂🎂🎂🎁🎁🎁🎁🎉🎊🎉🎊 Hope I didn't forget anybody!!!!

@TooLowDG 2 ай бұрын

Loved this episode as I am a flat footed runner that usually can’t buy the new fun exciting shoes. But I was wondering if you guys could give some input of the NEW GLYCERIN MAX, I run w/ the Glycerin GTS models now but would love to be able to buy and use this new model. Thanks for the feedback in advanced!

@DoctorsofRunning 2 ай бұрын

We will review it, if we get it 😭 Thanks for watching!

@LancePeterman 3 ай бұрын

Great pod. In general terms, would a stable neutral shoe like the SuperBlast 2 be assistive for someone with post tibial tendon issues without resorting to an outright stability shoe? Asking for a friend 🤠

@Echom4-kr5el 3 ай бұрын

I’m about to try this out this week. I’ve been using the kayano 31. I find a rockered shoe helps tremendously!

@brunis_m 2 ай бұрын

Hallux rigidus patient here very unhappy about the new glideride 😢. What would you prescribe instead now?

@jonathanbalangon9671 Ай бұрын

Which shoe is feels more like a softer ride between the Superblast 2 vs Hyperion Max 2? Thanks

@rycohen22 Ай бұрын

Can the saucony endorphin shift 3 be considered a stable neutral shoe? Thanks!

@pieceinthejuice 2 ай бұрын

Which shoe in this category would you say is best for full marathon?

@Superted7272 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the insightful review. I’m looking for a stable neutral shoe for workouts, faster runs and maybe half marathon races (I’m around 1h 50 for HM so don’t feel like I want to/ need to spend carbon plate super shoe money but still want to enjoy running in something fast and fun. Sounds like the Superblast 2 is a good option, in your opinion how would this compare to the rebel v4 or Mach 6 for stability?

@tumalik Ай бұрын

Hi. As you have been so kind to suggest the evorun and endorphin pro 3 as a good entry combo to the stable neutral shoes. What would you recommend as similar shoes in today’s terms? Evo seems to be gone and the EP 4 is now at 8mm which is a new format. Thanks

@hotsriracha_ 22 күн бұрын

Is the Asics Superblast 2 good for someone who over pronates?

@davidg9120 3 ай бұрын

There are stable shoes and stable neutral what's the final category? Unstable shoes?

@247Performance 3 ай бұрын

Thanks guy For me 83kg heavier strokes, more overpronation/ supination. Could you do a review over the best recovery, daily, tempo, race shoe that a neutral to stable for supination. It often goes to pronation. Recovery 1.Hurricane 24 ( I miss it in your list:( Really central ride for me. I really miss this one in the stable neutral. I think it is neutral because it is not bias lateral or medial. Heel is some what lateral support, mid some arch support but I did not felt it push me lateral and great sole flare lateral and medial . Daily -880v14 Good neutral stable also for supination. For me better then 860 more pronation support. -nova blast Great stable -Clifton 9 Great stable neutral also for supination. Tempo /daily -Mach 6 -Hyperion max 2 -Super blast -rebel v4 (maybe just by softness less stable) Other Recovery Ghost max 2 (not very stable for me) (only I found it less stable then a superblast / novablast) foam I found soft) More v5 (not very stable for 83kg runner) (better platform, only so soft and the side walls are also soft, if you go 1 way then you can not go back in line) but more stable then 1080 Bondi 8 (if the foam was some what more like hurricane 24 I think is the best) Very neutral, more stiffer foam I found it very stiff for running. Great for walking. Sole flare lateral and medial is great a tank. Side walls are great working because the foam is stiffer. Skyflow I found this one more medial support it push me of more lateral not good for me.

@Clauds43 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for this. My i ask what do you use for long runs?

@247Performance 3 ай бұрын

@@Clauds43 I train for max 15k. But slow steady pace or more moderate? Hurricane 24 I found great or 880 steady pace.

@KhaotiXPro 3 ай бұрын

How would you guys rank the Kinvara Pros in this list?

@Gae_w 2 ай бұрын

I only have one flat foot, the other is normal, so I have been using insoles for fifteen years after injuring my iliotibial band because I was recommended the Saucony medial wedge shoes at the time. In some shoes that I love, however, insoles don't fit (for example Adidas X2 Strung) and I take some risks. The question is: I know that with custom orthotics neutral shoes should normally be used, but with newly developed shoes, stable neutral ones? Orthotics yes or no?

@torontocitizen6802 3 ай бұрын

I think that the Saucony Triumph 22 would count as a stable neutral shoe.

@IdeasSpant 3 ай бұрын

I find the hoka carbon x would fit this category

@JosephThompson-t8i 3 ай бұрын

Great information. I have issues in my let hip and knee (partially because of an ankle I twisted multiple times playing high school sports and running). I find stability shoes help me as a result. My question is how does heel bevel affect stability in a shoe? A lot of shoes have a fair amount of heel bevel and softer cushioning on the lateral heel landing area. I tried the Saucony Omni 22 which aggravated my hip and has a softer lateral side and fairly significant heel bevel. Older models of this shoe (Everun, very firm midsole) worked well for me. Thanks.

@DoctorsofRunning 3 ай бұрын

Well answer this in an upcoming mailbag!

@georgesoto5436 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video, I don’t know why ASICS had to mess around with glide ride shoes. I obviously have not bought them, but the word “max” scares me a bit. Major running shoe companies ar 0:15 e maxing all their models, which in my humble opinion, is not all great. I have the glide ride 3, super light great everyday trainers. I have over 200 miles on this shoe and from the quality build aspect of it, I will probably take it to 400 miles. I will anxiously wait for your full review of this Max Glide Ride shoe.

@jaymueller2418 2 ай бұрын

Agree, George. The stack wars are a bit silly. Just did my first run in a pair of Saucony Guide 17’s which are the “lower stack” stability offering compared to the Hurricane and they are 35-29. Tall! Of course you have to widen the base to keep such tall stacks stable, which adds up to a lot of shoe.

@georgequine 3 ай бұрын

Does anyone know where I can grab a pair of superblasts in the UK, size 9.5UK ?? Thank you

@ryanmiskelly7668 2 ай бұрын

Novablast 4 ?

@MegaYummyjelly 3 ай бұрын

What is the better stable neutral walking shoe, Ghost Max 1 or 2?

@DoctorsofRunning 3 ай бұрын

@@MegaYummyjelly probably the max 2 due to the better sidewalls, stiffer and firmer ride

@MegaYummyjelly 3 ай бұрын

@@DoctorsofRunning Thank you and is the Ghost Max a shoe that you would recommend to someone who overpronates mildy/moderately? I was looking at these and a classic stability shoe like the Adrenaline 23/Kayano 30/GT-2000 12. I am under 155 pounds if that makes a difference.

@dariusjs7 3 ай бұрын

Nathan talked about rolling his ankle a bit in the past, something I’ve had issues with years ago. Does this mean shoes like the guide 17 are bad for you if they push you more towards the lateral side?

@nate.docsofrunning 3 ай бұрын

On flat ground I haven’t found it to be an issue, but even on mild trails shoes that have a bias laterally are an issue for me in terms of spraining my ankle. That said, the Guide in particular isn’t bad since it still has some decent sole flaring to the lateral side. But still prefer a more neutral shoe.

@dariusjs7 3 ай бұрын

@@nate.docsofrunning thanks so much for sharing your experience, really appreciate it. I might have to try some of the shoes from this list as my Novablast 4 near their end.

@RonnyC98 3 ай бұрын

However who performs well in unstable shoes?

@DoctorsofRunning 3 ай бұрын

Usually if it’s unstable - unless it’s just not a good shoe - it’s usually for a tradeoff like softer or faster. Many runners who are typically more experienced and higher mileage can run in unstable shoes no problem for the tradeoff it brings, especially runners who have a lot of all around strength to handle the instability.

@NsteveA 3 ай бұрын

Do any Topos or Altras fit in this category? Yeah, I'm THAT guy 😂. I swtiched to Altra Escalante's a few months ago and love that locked in heel and roomy toebox fit and other brands in wide doesn't come close.

@DoctorsofRunning 3 ай бұрын

The Topo Phantom 3 is a great one. www.doctorsofrunning.com/2023/05/topo-athletic-phantom-3-review-2023.html

@tompa.s 2 ай бұрын

I love to see that someone are as bad at fixing their bedroom as me :D

@graevanhooser7348 2 ай бұрын

the heel with the foam wrapping around the back of the shoe (aka bucket seat) was invented by hoka and their max cush shoes in 2010. everyone else has copied them, period.