Outboard fuel pumps

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Dangar Marine

Dangar Marine

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@joeg.cintron4226
@joeg.cintron4226 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent and ageless video - helped us troubleshoot and repair our Mercury 30hp, 4 stroke, EFI fuel pump. Amazing how we can count on you mates from down under and not from our own here in the USA! Thank you so much!
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Joe. :)
@stefanoskoufidis
@stefanoskoufidis 4 ай бұрын
I had exactly the same problem with the fuel pump in three boats, and it took weeks for the mechanics to understand what the problem was. The engines would be running and then suddenly there would be a power loss, like a lack of petrol. We changed everything: petrol tanks, pipes, everything. We even changed the high-pressure pump, but in the end, it was a mechanical pump. One of the plastic gaskets was off. The confusion was as when the problem was happening and i was turning the key off and starting the engine again the boat would run perfectly fine, but after an hour or more, the problem would return. I bought three new pumps as the Mercury dealer in Greece said there was no repair kit . I am extremely happy that my boat and engines work perfectly again. Thank you for the wonderful video.
@caleymcglynn725
@caleymcglynn725 2 жыл бұрын
have to say, really appreciate your uploads. no boat experience, just bought a boat and with your videos i have serviced the impeller, carby, shaft seals, lower unit oil change. and now the fuel pump. thanks very much stu
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help. :)
@AhmedAdly11
@AhmedAdly11 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos have made me a hero :) In Egypt, we have hundreds of live aboard dive boats and each boat has a couple of RIBs with 40HP yamahas. Now our sailors over here have hearts of solid gold, but they are pretty careless with our equipment. We all suffer terribly with keeping the outboards well maintained. So after watching your videos, I started doing these odd jobs and it has had a huge impact. Sailors from other boats keep coming over for me to fix theirs!!! Thanks for the greta videos!
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Someone has to keep these old motors going. :)
@jeremybro7016
@jeremybro7016 7 жыл бұрын
This plus the VST video saved me a fortune. Local marine shop couldn't figure out what was going on. These two videos were exactly what I needed to do it myself on a 60/40 EFI mercury jet. Thank you SO much! Very valuable videos.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Jeremy, glad to hear the vids saved you some money. :)
@Jubi316
@Jubi316 7 жыл бұрын
Here from America , I just recently rebuilt my Mariner 200hp had the block bored and had new pistons , bearings and more . Runs like a beast . I've been a mechanic for alittle over 20 years but still learning everyday , lol
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Nice one, glad to hear is running well after the rebuild. You're dead right though, there is always something new to learn!
@badger305
@badger305 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't mind telling, how much was the rebuild versus the price of a new 200hp engine?
@ronaldcach2779
@ronaldcach2779 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again Stu, you are a life saver. Ron from Michigan USA
@joemole5135
@joemole5135 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video this video explained how the fuel pumps work didn't know much before it. I wish you would put videos up more often like two or three times a week don't worry about editing them just put them up real time I'll still enjoy them a lot thanks
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, glad you liked the video. I am working on finding a way to make more time for at least one mid week video each week. I had started doing short "quick tip" videos and I really need to get back to that.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, and I also have the 'dangarstu' Instagram account for little midweek bits and pieces.
@esurcylimaf4335
@esurcylimaf4335 7 жыл бұрын
Great video Stu, you always make things clear and seem easy. Thank you for your tips. I often suggest your channel as reference when people are asking for certain outboard problems, Cheers Rob
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob, glad you liked it and always appreciate people spreading the word. :)
@ronaldarevalo3513
@ronaldarevalo3513 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! I have been having fuel problems I just changed the priming bulb and it didn’t work so now this will be my next thing to check. Again thank you sir you are a big help and I did learn a lot from your video.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome, good luck!
@2sheetstothewind484
@2sheetstothewind484 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Gotta buy you another Fosters. Bought an `86 90hp merc w/16ft runabout. Been running good gas and Sea Foam. Got it going 36mph top speed. Gonna rebuild/replace the fuel pump for maintenace. Hope to get more speed but I think that`s all she`s good for (36mph).
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, glad the vids have been helping you. :)
@Augn-ff3dp
@Augn-ff3dp 7 жыл бұрын
Dammit mate I needed this 18 hours ago.. Thanks for the video regardless all great info once again.. Successfully cleaned and tuned my carbys just from a couple of ur videos so far, confidence inspiring indeed. Saved me a few hundred atleast
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
I've heard that a few times! I had been meaning to do this one for a few weeks too... Glad to hear the videos have been saving you money. :)
@greggaaron1542
@greggaaron1542 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I just wanted to say thank you for all your videos very informative you do a really great job thank you again
@JimGrady67
@JimGrady67 7 жыл бұрын
Great videos! The one on the VST really helped me with my 2003 Merc 40hp 4 stroke. I was also surprised to see I can buy a new low pressure fuel pump for cheaper (96USD) than a company wanted for the rebuild kit (120USD). Thats if they had the right kit number. Keep up the great videos!
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim. It's weird sometimes with parts. It also pays to look first as the prices can sometimes be surprising.
@nickbeard2821
@nickbeard2821 4 жыл бұрын
Dangar Stu every new youtube account I make your the first channel I sub to. I'm trying to diagnose my 25 efi merc right now and I'm pretty sure its the pump.
@gmcbride6306
@gmcbride6306 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I noticed on my old pump that after removing it to test it you can pump the button plunger that goes in the motor and feel if it holds suction with your finger over the pickup side and feel the pressure on the outlet side if the pump is good.
@brenth7774
@brenth7774 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, extremely thorough on the wire wheel about the old loctite at 8:15 Great job on that.
@TimsWorkshopTJY
@TimsWorkshopTJY 7 жыл бұрын
hey that looks just like my 4hp yamaha fuel pump I thought was leaking internally but was the cheesy finger clamps. changed them out with SS clamps like you showed on one of you other videos. the hand pump is a must have for pressure leaks. good video. Thanks
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, those pump / gauges sure are useful, that's for sure. :)
@captaindon2967
@captaindon2967 4 жыл бұрын
Sent this Vid to my friend perfect for his motor- Thanks Stu
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@dtrutza
@dtrutza 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Really enjoy watching them, and I learned a lot. Thx
@Fireship1
@Fireship1 7 жыл бұрын
Another great video from you Stu. I have two of these guys on my Yamaha 150. I was told both were replaced for preventive maintenance, but now I know how to test and overhaul them if needed. They are less of a mystery to me now! We have ethanol blended fuel here in the US that isn't the best for boat fuel systems. I wish that they would go back to good old regular gasoline!
@gnrphil
@gnrphil 7 жыл бұрын
Easy way to check those is by loosening the mounting bolts a bit and then give the primer bulb a squeeze, if they're bad fuel will leek out of the hole in the back that Stu pointed out in the vid. They're easy to rebuild but a new one is only $40. Don't tighten the mounting bolts up too tight, they only need about 6 ft lbs or so.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
That's a nice quick check for a leak in the diagram, I like that.
@ronpowell2373
@ronpowell2373 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we have ethanol fuel here and the government mandated that all service stations must sell it. However along with that law is that the blend is a maximum of 10% and bowsers have to be marked (in most cases it is very poorly marked, and hidden by other 'power words' ). So generally if you stick to the major brands and use 95 or 98 RON fuel you are OK in Australia. You can get 91 non ethanol in many servos but you have to be careful as the 10% ethanol is often in the same pump . In saying that we still get bad fuel! We filled up last weekend and ended with 50 litres of bad fuel (diesel+E91 in a supposed 95 pump!) last weekend which killed my engine with in about 500metres from the dock! So now I have another major winter project - or a new motor - to be done by October.
@Fireship1
@Fireship1 7 жыл бұрын
Ron Powell Wow Ron, sorry to hear about that. I guess the whole ethanol and water issue is more widespread than I thought. They do sell non ethanol fuel here in the US, but it's very hard to come buy. A search in my state (New Jersey) shows only two places to buy it in the entire state. (It's a big state here too!) And none of them are anywhere near me. Best I can do is try to burn the fuel in the tanks ASAP and not let it sit. I also dose it good with an ethanol fuel treatment with every fill up of the boat.
@emtdanny520
@emtdanny520 9 ай бұрын
thank you for you time to make this videos.
@darrylpechey9162
@darrylpechey9162 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pulling the Yamaha pump apart. Now I see why a lot of places just sell the pump diaphragm.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is certainly the most common part to fail.
@maxspain46
@maxspain46 4 жыл бұрын
@@DangarMarine where can i order the Diaphragms?
@stanpatterson5033
@stanpatterson5033 7 жыл бұрын
Love the "vintage film stock" that you used to take us back to show the one-way valve diaphragms. Don't worry about making "lame" videos, there's no danger of that happening. Oh, and as for giving your viewers the shirt off your back, that's wonderful of course, but if it goes any further than shirts, it might become a problem. Thumbs up !
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stan, sometimes videos don't quite go to plan but because I'm always doing them at the last minute my options are either to just put it out as is, or not have something for that weekend. One day I'll find a way to make the time to do them much earlier and do a bit more research first!
@WillsGarage91
@WillsGarage91 7 жыл бұрын
Great work Stu!
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Will! :)
@danidimesss
@danidimesss Жыл бұрын
Hey Danger! Your videos are always my first choice when marine work is needed so I have a question. I have a 2013 yamaha fxca 250 and recently on the water was having fuel pump issues. (Engine dying completely as if starved of fuel and primer bulb being the short term solution) Got it home and investigated the low pressure fuel pump which is electronic and absolutely no fuel coming out of the line which should be feeding into the VST. Went to the fuse box and found the fuse was blown. switched it out and fuel pump worked for a short time then nothing. Fuse blew again. Tried bigger fuses and they all have blown. Is my pump shot or is something else causing the fuses to blow? Thanks for all the great teaching!!!!
@johncarilloiii7828
@johncarilloiii7828 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as was the VST service video. Would like to see more. Learned a lot. Do a video on servicing a 60 hp efi outboard. Love the tips and tricks!
@guyzoun
@guyzoun Жыл бұрын
2002 honda bf40. Original fuel pump. Is it possible that engine oil makes it way via the pump plunger/camshaft inside the pump? I noticed very little weeping of oil underside the pump assembly/gasket. Does not smell gas. Excellent video! Thank You
@andrew7202
@andrew7202 5 ай бұрын
Where did you get the diaphragm from for merc pump also do you know where to get the bottom plunger assembly
@jonathancassidy2037
@jonathancassidy2037 2 ай бұрын
This video is awesome! Where did you get this Marc rebuild kit? I can’t find it anywhere.
@donmoore4259
@donmoore4259 7 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks for your taking the time out, in making your videos. Great stuff! We all enjoy them, and are so helpful... I'd like to request, when you find the time.. Will you make some more videos, covering motor Bogging...Why?? Is it in relation to Fuel pump, or in the carbs? Mainly, just more videos on Fuel Pumps, and Carbs... Thanks again, Don.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Don, glad to hear you've been enjoying the videos. Doing one on bogging and not achieving full RPM is a good idea. I'll have to think about the best way to do it but I'll come up with something!
@donmoore4259
@donmoore4259 7 жыл бұрын
Great!!
@user-qj2wp7xg4z
@user-qj2wp7xg4z Жыл бұрын
Hey Dangar Stu, what's the best place to or these parts from in Sydney or online? I got the 2stroke fuel pump . Tohatsu
@toddthemitchell
@toddthemitchell 5 ай бұрын
can you tell me which fuel pump repair kit you used? I need to replace those reed valves in mine and cant find a rebuild kit. thx
@stephancordell697
@stephancordell697 2 жыл бұрын
mine squirts out fine on the boat from the outlet...I cleaned the VSP VST was wondering if carb cleaner is ok to flush through it or will it eat the rubber???
@camping56
@camping56 2 жыл бұрын
Hi the vidoe is a big help im struggling to find the one way valves for my 4 stroke engine where did you get your from please?
@SwampyOgre425
@SwampyOgre425 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 of the pump at 11:17, Yamaha. When I squeeze the fuel bulb, fuel leaks out into one of the holes where the mounting bolts go. That’s very bad right? I’m surprised that both of the pumps I have do the exact same thing.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 3 жыл бұрын
Could be a couple of things. Either the diaphram / gasket in the pumps are bad or the needle and seat in the carburettor isn't sealing and the crankcase is filling with fuel through the throat of the carburettor. I would take one of the fuel pumps apart first and carefully look for tears, holes or pinched sections.
@alpoktemornek7833
@alpoktemornek7833 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, my suzuki df30a year 2019 cuts power over 4000 rpm after 5-10 minutes ride. It starts and runs very smooth and perfect. Can you give any idea; is it the low or high pressure pump?
@irvingguerrero6052
@irvingguerrero6052 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. I am motivated to trouble shoot my Yamaha fuel issue. Thanks
@HigherPraiseQuartet
@HigherPraiseQuartet 4 жыл бұрын
I have replaced my low psi fuel pump and still have no fuel in the water separater. What do you recommend?
@phungkien2141
@phungkien2141 10 ай бұрын
hi mate, I have motor BF50A that has problem with the fuel pump. But I cannot find where I can buy the rubber. Could you help to show me where should I get it?
@mattfrapple7911
@mattfrapple7911 7 жыл бұрын
How good was that black and white valve video cut in!
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt!
@inthenameofmyfather3836
@inthenameofmyfather3836 9 ай бұрын
hi i was wondering if that plunger in the back could leak oil into the fuel ive got a lot of smoke like its burning a lot of oil 4 stroke 40 merc thanks
@t-rexvlogs5589
@t-rexvlogs5589 2 жыл бұрын
Hey matte great watch just wonder the low pressure fuel pump to replace instead off rebuilding I thought you mentioned the price was reasonable was quoted $800 -$600 today
@dangnomen
@dangnomen 2 жыл бұрын
thank you! im struggeling with my boat, a mercury 90hp 4 stroke 4carb engine, on full throttle it wont go full rpm.. i opened my fuel pumps (1 pump serving 2 carbs) and found the "sealant gasget"? full of some white powder, tho i cant seem to find a leak, tho there was some sandlike sort of grainy stuff in the chambers, so i cleaned them out, hoping it was the sinner, maybe blocking some valves or something... and i dont want that stuff in my carbs. cant seem to get my membrane off tho, but i cant see any damage... i see some fuel getting into the water but i cannot find where it comes from... its an 2001 model.. do u have any ideas?
@timven8402
@timven8402 Жыл бұрын
Just happened to see this great vid. I have -04 BF50A and the oil is getting thin and it smells like there's gas in it. How common is it that gas leaks through pusher rod opening? Can the gasket and rod be changed without buying the whole pump? This may be also a thermostat problem since here in Finland we have pretty cold sea at spring and autumn...and practically always if comparing to Australia😊
@PhonEGeniu
@PhonEGeniu 7 жыл бұрын
great video!
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. :)
@newyota1
@newyota1 7 жыл бұрын
Good video.I thought maybe you would be showing a fuel pressure gauge installed in-line to show actual pressure it was producing.I just acquired a fuel pressure gauge to install between pump and carb. on my 85' Johnson two stroke to test.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
I used the fuel pressure gauge in the original video that fuel pump came from, but unfortunately the boat this goes on is no longer hear so I can't test it directly. It is a good point about testing one in the future though. I'm normally only interested in fuel pressure with EFI motors but it would something worth checking for carburettors too.
@dustinabercrombie8939
@dustinabercrombie8939 3 жыл бұрын
My 06 mercury 4 stroke efi is losing prime on warm starts. Could this be a possible issue or does it sound like high pressure vst? I've replaced primer bulb and main fuel line but problem seems to be getting worse. It takes about 10 attempts to start but once it cranks the engine runs fine.
@mattfoss423
@mattfoss423 7 жыл бұрын
Comedy gold stu.. hahah I have no idea how you manage to keep a straight face!!
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Anything's possible with editing! :)
@troyjacka598
@troyjacka598 7 жыл бұрын
was awsome love this site got all my gears now happy as larry lol cheers m8
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Troy, glad to hear you've got all your gears sorted out.
@guebsiali8875
@guebsiali8875 Жыл бұрын
Hi What caused the fuel pump to fail? Because in the span of 6 months, he changed three times, and I don't know why
@hkm_865
@hkm_865 7 жыл бұрын
Felt like Dangar today, did a powerhead swap on my Johnson 115. The VRO pump makes me nervous though
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Nice work. With the VRO pump just make sure you start up with premix oil until you are sure that the oil in the reservoir is being consumed.
@mg7601
@mg7601 Жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the low pressure fuel pump diaphragm kit at? I can't find any for sale. New subscriber here, great content!
@adrianmac4695
@adrianmac4695 6 жыл бұрын
Which kit did you use to fix the low pressure pump we have a similar model.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
If you look your motor up on marineengine.com you'll see they are a section of common service items separate to all the spare parts. You'll definitely find the right kit there.
@kenspeich3684
@kenspeich3684 2 жыл бұрын
I have 60hp Merc, would a high pressure or low pressure fuel pump cause motor to not ramp up past 4000rpm?
@geraldolmstead1335
@geraldolmstead1335 7 жыл бұрын
very good presentation I go by Jake I'm 73 and in poor health but I enjoy watching your presentations. One question, we have an old Johnson 40 hp. with the oil being mixed by an injection method,do you have a video showing how to rebuild the dual carbs if you do please let me know thank you.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jake, I don't have one specifically on those carbs, but other videos on cleaning carbs and installing carb kits that you may have seen. By dual carbs, do you mean that each unit is feeding two cylinders? I've got some carbs like that from an old V6 that had 3 dual carbs on it. I could do a video on that carb if I can find it.
@garyr9823
@garyr9823 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for video! What part number gasket kit for fuel pump?
@johnmelissalawrence6649
@johnmelissalawrence6649 4 жыл бұрын
Quick Question- I am cleaning the carbs on a 2001 30hp 2 stroke Yamaha for my dad, he let it sit for 5 years with ethanol gas in it. So I cleaned the carbs dumbed the old gas and had him get new ethanol-free gas it started right up but after a tank of gas was idling rough. I pulled the carbs and the jets were clogged again not as bad but some of the jelly was in the system still. So can I open and clean the fuel pump without having to replace gaskets or diaphragm? I also ordered a new hose and primer bulb and plan on scrubbing the tank clean. cleaned fuel filter also again.
@johnmelissalawrence6649
@johnmelissalawrence6649 4 жыл бұрын
or do you think to clean the tank, fresh gas, seafoam, new hose, and primer bulb, with clean carbs and fuel filter with clean it out good enough?
@LifesAdventures555
@LifesAdventures555 4 жыл бұрын
Haahaaahaaa!! I think this is the first time I have been made to laugh while viewing a marine repair video! So you gave him the shirt off your back!! Love it!!
@WBU319
@WBU319 4 жыл бұрын
We are working with this exact pump and encountered a problem getting one of the mounting bolts to thread when we put it back together. We backed all four out carefully just one time and three went back in well while the other won’t latch onto the female threading. Do you have a recommendation for how to correct this so that the pump can be fully reassembled? There is no visible issue with the bolt and so I figure that the problem is inside. We did switch bolts and found that any one of them works in the three good female threaded parts.
@am44_67
@am44_67 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the first thing you would check in this scenario, boat runs great except for at full speed RPMs drop and rise until I slow down a bit?
@leogaskell3138
@leogaskell3138 4 ай бұрын
Does anyone know where to order the rebuild kit or even just the little valves and rubber pins from?
@cadillacescalade1
@cadillacescalade1 6 жыл бұрын
At the begining 3:30 U pumped air into the outlet and exhausted immediatly when u release finger. Does it means that if you pump in the inlet The outlet will release also immediatly? Does it means that the faulty valve is always open?
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
The valves should only allow air to pass one way easily. If you pump into the inlet it should flow straight out the outlet. Yes, a faulty valve with be open allowing fuel to flow in either direction because it is always open.
@pandonia77
@pandonia77 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video that shows what are the most important or crucial tools/gadgets/testers to own when a noobie is considering to maintain and service their own outboards?
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Sure, that's a great idea. I'll try to get to that one soon. :)
@coreyblanchard5177
@coreyblanchard5177 2 жыл бұрын
So you should not be able to suck air from inlet or blow air through outlet, right?
@drlangattx3dotnet
@drlangattx3dotnet 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Stu. I looked for a fuel tank video to be appropriate for a question. Anyway...I want to have two outboard fuel tanks on my RIB. Waht is a good way to plumb them? Crossover pipe ? Totally separate? I have one already, a 12 gallon Moeller. Thanks for any advice you can give.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Donald. Generally I would keep them separate so that when one runs out you know you have used half your fuel and can start planning your return journey. Having said that, there are plenty of boats setup (catamarans are a classic example) when they draw from both side tanks at the same time to keep the boat on an even keel.
@drlangattx3dotnet
@drlangattx3dotnet 7 жыл бұрын
I will probably do a separate line for each to a tee with valves and then to the filter. But how do they do the catamaran setup?
@DLuxProdbeatz
@DLuxProdbeatz 3 жыл бұрын
i have a yamaha f115 with a similar pump. i opened it up because im getting fuel in the oil. the diaphragm has oil on the fuel side is that normal?
@brianwitosky757
@brianwitosky757 3 жыл бұрын
How many fuel pumps does a BF90A Honda outboard carbureted have
@josecarlosgamez3718
@josecarlosgamez3718 4 жыл бұрын
I got a 1986 bayliner 125 outboard motor, starts with no problen but when i acelerate to go fast ,the power go off and on off and on , what it can be , the carbs, or fuel pump? Or someting else?
@ahunterstail1083
@ahunterstail1083 3 жыл бұрын
My son has a 4 stroke 9.9 hp evinrude, 1999 model, fuel pump isn't working and you can't get a spare pump, it the one with the rod that works the diaphram, any ideas please
@donmoore4259
@donmoore4259 7 жыл бұрын
First, thank you for taking the time to put together these very informative videos...Now, question about fuel pumps.. I'm having an issue with an 1987 Johnson 90hp v4, which I just purchased and have it on the water several times no problems.. But, now it boggs down, doesn't die, just boggs down.. seems to happen once you try an open it all the way.. Things I've covered so far...One, I changed out the primer bulb, and switched over to a different tank of fuel.. So what next?? thanks Don..
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
I would make sure the carb bowls are full of fuel by draining one straight after it happens. If they aren't it could be a dodgy fuel pump. If they are full it could be a problem with blocked main jets meaning the carburettors will need a clean and perhaps the float levels set.
@googleplusisdead
@googleplusisdead 7 жыл бұрын
You mentioned an O ring wasn't seated on first assembly of the Merc pump, I didn't see anywhere that you referenced it/showed it/where it is? On the Yamaha pump, what does the metal valves seal against, just metal, or is there an O ring or something they seat against? Lastly, what videocam do you use and what software for editing? Thanks, RichE
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
It isn't so much an o-ring as a thin gasket that goes around the edge of the pump's cover plate. The reeds on the Yamaha pump just seal against the plastic casing of the pump. As the vacuum tests show, they down really seal completely, they just restrict the flow in one direction enough to cause fuel to mostly keep moving in one direction. Camera is a Panasonic v770 and I use Final Cut Pro for the editing.
@tinyfordtruck
@tinyfordtruck 7 жыл бұрын
hello sir..I'm working on dt 140 suzuki.and I think I'm having fuel pump issues as well..it's getting fuel to carb but don't think it has enough pressure to supply for motor(can fill bowls up just not enough to pump into motor..)i have tooken one outlet line off and turned motor over and it pumps but if I see how much pressure it has by putting finger over and it doesn't push any fuel by my hand...I dunno how much psi those should be pushing..but is there any other way to test with out gauge tool?
@ronpowell2373
@ronpowell2373 7 жыл бұрын
Diaphragm pumps don't generate much pressure - 2-3 psi is typical, which is why they are used to feed carburetors ( low pressure means they don't push needles off seats) and don't need a pressure regulator. You should be able to stop the flow with your finger .
@MM-zb1uj
@MM-zb1uj Жыл бұрын
Hi Stu. I have a problem the engine Flood`s on all 4 Carbs, when turning the Key on?? I have sat pressure on each, carb on my work bench, and nothing comes out of the intake? But when it is put on the engine it Flow`s out??? Could the pressure on the pump be too high?? It is a Mercury 50 hp 4 stroke 4 cyl from 2001 ( not the EFI model).... Enjoy your Videos.. Hope you can help mee. Sincerely Mogens Madsen from Denmark Europe..... Have a good day.
@bobparker270
@bobparker270 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 30hp Mariner EFI about 4 years old. It runs fine from cold. If I stop the engine after approx 2 hours and leave for approx 1 hour it will not start. It turns over fine but will not start. If I leave the engine overnight it will start up again just fine. Any ideas? Fuel is always filtered into tank and a fuel/water separator is fitted. Engine is serviced annually. I have enjoyed your blogs over the years and have begun searching through them again to help find a solution to the above problem. Cheers.
@ksc5522
@ksc5522 3 жыл бұрын
Cant stop watching the second hand on the clock
@mgav1975
@mgav1975 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I am trying to convert my VRO on 1996 Johnson 200hp 90 degree to a premix conventional direct fuel pump. I was going to run 2 aftermarket fuel pumps in series and cap the extra pulse port- will this work?
@Toto-nt9ll
@Toto-nt9ll 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have a 2013 Mercury 60hp efi and it is bogging down at full throttle after being out on the lake for a while, going a mile or tow - stopping to fish and then restarting. It starts fine, gets to plane and then will bog down at random times. If I throttle down and wait a few seconds it will go back to normal. Just wondering before I start trying to take things apart - if you think this would be the best place to start? The fuel filter has been changed and the motor has had no other issues. I took it to a marina and they could not find any issues but they didn't do anything but change the filter. They lake tested it and said there were no issues but it continues to bog down on most trips. It also seems to do it more when it's warm out. Most of the winter we had no issues.......just don't feel safe out there with this happening. Thanks for any insight.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
I would start with the simple things like checking the breather valve is open on the fuel tank and that all the fuel line fittings are tight and not sucking air.
@sk2283
@sk2283 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Stu, I wonder if I can pick your brains please !? I am having an issue with a Mercury 4hp I bought last year, it was stood for a couple seasons when I bought it as a non runner - it was really gunned up but turned over ok, I tried cleaning the carb and fuel pump but they were toast so I replaced them and it was working great, however it developed an issue where it was really hard to start but worked fine once it started. I traced it to lack of fuel and the new pump wasn’t pushing fuel through properly, it is ok if I take it off the engine and pump the pushrod with my thumb but on the engine it is as if the cam lobe is not pushing it enough - yet once I prime fuel in the carb it runs great, which I think is partly due to fuel self syphoning ? Anyway I wanted to ask what can I do to make the pushrod engage or do you think it’s a duff pump ? I have cleaned all the lines and the fuel tap bowl, it just doesn’t fill the carb bowl if I empty it ! It’s very annoying as the pump is only 1 season old - thanks mate I appreciate all yours videos 👍👍👍
@inthenameofmyfather3836
@inthenameofmyfather3836 9 ай бұрын
DID STU EVER REPLY?
@patrickfountain198
@patrickfountain198 6 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, thanks for all the videos, been super helpful when servicing my boat. Quick question - I have a 50hp Mercury (same fuel pump as you've used in this video). Above ~60% throttle it's losing power and sowly surges back to idle then cuts out. Switch it off and on and it's good again up to the 60% mark. Thinking it's the fuel pump or blocked injectors. Any ideas?
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds more like a fuel pump problem.
@NorthernIrelandFishingReports
@NorthernIrelandFishingReports 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Stu, can you please tell me if a bad diaphragm in a fuel pump would cause the engine (suzuki dt65 oil injection) to stall when going into gear, under load. Then intermittently go into gear but not reach high revs. feel sluggish, I think I may have this issue and trying to work out what could cause this. Ive cleaned the carbs and changed plugs and still getting this. But only under load. thanks.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
It doesn't sound like fuel pump to me. I would do a compression check on the motor and see if the carburettor bowls are still full of fuel when it starts to happen.
@NorthernIrelandFishingReports
@NorthernIrelandFishingReports 7 жыл бұрын
hi Stu thanks for responding. im near sure that the bowls are still full when this happens, if not fuel pump. what would be next thing to check, and dont have compression tester unfortunately. a friend said it may be getting to much fuel through the diaphragm and drowning it out on throttle, strange thing is it goes into reverse without stalling
@kory1212
@kory1212 4 жыл бұрын
Hey stu I really need your help I don’t have any good mechanics or Honda dealers near me , I’m having a issue with my motor I constantly need to prime my ball and notice it’s never stays hard and when idling it doesn’t stall but shakes pretty bad . I can’t find any info on the part I need or if I should take it out and check the fuel pump . I’ve replaced the gas lines fuel filter clean gas fuel water separator and nothing any advice would be great !
@jimbogasoline8559
@jimbogasoline8559 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I have a question on thread sealers like the loctight you used on the fuel pump. My merc service manual says to use loctite 271 on the impeller housing. When i went to buy it at autozone i saw 271 is the red loctite that the label reads as "permanent, not removable with hand tools". Every time i did the LU service i actually used grease on the bolts. Would I be better off still using grease, anti-seize, or the green loctite that states it IS removable by hand tools? Or should i follow the manual and use the red loctite? Thanks a bunch and can't wait for the Johnson LU vid!!#
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, good question. I have used green loctite before, but on these small bolts I've always found the red to be removable with hand tools. We use a Wurth loctite in the shop so I'm not sure what the exact equivalent is. I think some sort of thread locker is a good idea on water pumps in theory, but I've never seem them come apart even without. With regards to using grease, I think that is better for the larger bolts like the ones that hold the leg on as they can be torqued up nice and tight.
@jimbogasoline8559
@jimbogasoline8559 7 жыл бұрын
Cool thanks
@ductran7058
@ductran7058 Жыл бұрын
I learned so much from your video. Si fu.
@Reuldonniedah
@Reuldonniedah 4 жыл бұрын
i was looking for the spare parts or repair kit if you like, but can't seem to find it on marineengine.com only the whole pump. any idea what part nr it might be ? i have the same sort outboard: 40 hp efi 4 stroke mercury
@chugs
@chugs 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos Stu, so Briiliantly simplified for lamen like myself.. My mariner 40hp efi has been beeping a continuous warning beep.. Apparently oil pressure, or overheat. I've replaced oil, oil filter, cleaned high pressure pump, replaced both fuel filters and bought all new fuel lines... Still getting the dreaded beep.. I'm going to replace this low pressure pump now as the cooling water runs through it so hoping it might help? Any other suggestions would be amazing..?
@anthonybehr350
@anthonybehr350 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Can anybody tell me if there’s a gasket between the head and the plastic back of the pump?
@taylorcole19
@taylorcole19 4 жыл бұрын
I can't find the kit for this I need the exact black rubber plugs but I'm not sure on the size
@stanpatterson5033
@stanpatterson5033 7 жыл бұрын
I have a question concerning the "problem" of the pump you rebuilt not being perfect (according to the pressure test) after your work..... What if you had wet or dampened the pump with some gasoline prior to the after-rebuild test ? Would things not have been happier inside the pump if the new valves had some liquid at least passed over them prior to being pressure (or vacuum) tested? After all, they do deal with liquids, not air. I do agree that it's good to test on the bench rather than out on the water, but just wondered if the test was completely fair to the newly installed parts.
@ronpowell2373
@ronpowell2373 7 жыл бұрын
Stan, you beat me by a few minutes. I agree that those valves should be 'lubricated' for the tests as they are not air tight, in fact they are not even fluid tight. They don't actually have to seal , just be very restrictive to reverse fluid flow as they are being pulsed very quickly . That pulse speed means that fuel cannot reverse flow easily . On the KT100 go karts ( carb and fuel pump in one unit!) you need to put a squirt of WD40 on to the needle seat and on the one way valves to be able to set them up correctly. I use WD40 as some other cleaning fluids are not nice to nylon / plastic parts. The alternative is two stroke oil diluted 50:50 with kerosene, not petrol ( it evaporates too quickly and is too flammable for bench testing stuff)
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Out of interest I'll squirt a bit of fluid in there and see how it changes. I think the test is useful enough just to know that the case has sealed properly (certainly saved me this time!), but if it was possible to get a better indication of the health of the valves it would be good. I think the trouble is, that as you both say, they will never hold air pressure fully so drawing a line between serviceable and needing replacement would be tricky.
@ronpowell2373
@ronpowell2373 7 жыл бұрын
I just tried this on my spare two stroke fuel pump and it worked OK. Using an old 12volt tyre pump ( a K-mart one the kids use to pump up balls and bike tyres) I connected it to the fuel pump pulse line via a T piece. The open end of the T piece went off to a ball inflation spike that acts as a restrictor and to allow the pumped air to escape so I didn't over pressurise the fuel pump. The tyre pump pulses are enough to operate the fuel pump. The fuel out line was connected to a measuring jar, the fuel in line to my boat fuel tank . With the air pump running for 1 minute I measure just under 300mL of fuel delivered- which is more than enough for my 50hp engine. So if you have an old 12volt air pump around (probably even one with worn out one way valves would do, or take them out- then you can just connect it to the fuel pump directly) you have a great test unit !
@nicoletommy3261
@nicoletommy3261 4 жыл бұрын
Would want to know why the engine gets bad real quick and our motor is Yamaha 40hp 4 stroke. I would want to know why our engine get warm. I was wondering if the oil is not working well
@pimpshack81
@pimpshack81 7 жыл бұрын
So 2 strokes have similar pumps like the 2nd one you took apart?... and also you said with the diaphragm cracked it would leak badly ... would that leak be internal or would you see a stream of gas floating in the water? I know this is probably a newbie question but I'm just that s newbie .. lol
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Hi mate. It depends where they crack. You can get fuel leaking externally if the gasket is bad between the layers, but you can also get fuel running down into the crankcase making it run rich and have fuel come out the exhaust.
@pimpshack81
@pimpshack81 7 жыл бұрын
Dangar Marine if it runs in the crank case and out the exhaust would that make the engine cut off when put in gear , only when submerged ? I really appreciate all of your advice and help
@KurtBergNielsen
@KurtBergNielsen 5 жыл бұрын
Someby know where to buy the handpump or the type of it ,Thankyou
@sturner6972
@sturner6972 6 жыл бұрын
I was watching your videos on this fuel pump and the vst tank and was wondering if u could give ur 2 cents on my problem real quick. It’s a 2011 25 hp Mercury efi 4 stroke and it Boggs down at full throttle but then a few pumps of the primer ball gets it back to full rpms till it Boggs down again. I’ve checked tank vent, line connections, checked the filter with the bowl and was clean have a higher pressure filter on its way and was wondering if u think it is the fuel pump or something else cause it and how to check if the pump is operational with out buyin a new one? Thanks
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын
If the primer bulb helps then I would say it is the low pressure fuel pump that has failed.
@sturner6972
@sturner6972 6 жыл бұрын
Dangar Marine ended up replacing high pressure fuel filter and went out for test ride and it work perfectly thanks for the help anyway
@watsoncali25
@watsoncali25 4 жыл бұрын
Could the bad valves cause fuel to get into the oil
@timwiley4351
@timwiley4351 7 жыл бұрын
Stu, great vid! But FIRST, how do you remove the little bugger? My LP FP looks identical to that (2010 40hp EFI). Except when I try to remove it there is some plastic bushing going from the pump to the case. I cannot pull it straight out because the lower cowl is in the way. As it was, I could just barely get the lower attachment screw off. Please tell me I don't have to remove the lower cowl. I have searched the interweb high and low for an answer :-(
@timwiley4351
@timwiley4351 7 жыл бұрын
Oi! Never mind. Sorry to create unnecessary noise. All I had to do was remove the latch for the top cowl. If I had done that from the beginning, that bottom bolt would have been much easier to remove as well.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
No worries, I remember it being harder to get out than I thought it should be.
@SirTrampe
@SirTrampe 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Danger, Love your videos. Been following you for a while now. I have a question i have you can answer for me - I have a suzuki DF25 V-Twin 4 stroke motor from 2008. It is in fairly good condition. - starts everytime, runs perfect in idle. But when i give it some throttle it will start to act up, and sometimes die completely, then first time i pull it starts right back up no problem and run smooth again, but then it will die on me again if i give it too much throttle. It only sorta happen when i give it like 25% or more in one go. If i slowly climb my way up to full throttle over lets say 30 sec. it wont happen. What can that be? im lost. Any clue what it could be ? Thanks in advance :)
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
Hi mate. As fuel is heavier than air, when you accelerate there is a lag where a motor with go lean unless something is done to compensate (like an accelerator pump that gives a little squirt of extra fuel as you push the throttle). Sounds like either this mechanism isn't working or perhaps you have a vacuum leak where extra clean (non-fueled) air is being sucked into the cylinders. Check that the carburettor is well sealed against the block with a good gasket to start with.
@thebigboss024
@thebigboss024 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Dangar Marine, Is it normal when you pump the gas from the tank to your motor leaking to carburetor? I can see it drips
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын
No, it shouldn't drip at all. Sounds like the needle and seat in the float bowl isn't sealing properly.
@thebigboss024
@thebigboss024 7 жыл бұрын
Dangar Marine and another thing when I tilt the motor forward it drips gas too
@thebigboss024
@thebigboss024 7 жыл бұрын
Does it mean I need to rebuild my carbs
@caudlemtnd
@caudlemtnd 7 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem, even when I took all three carbs off the motor and pumped the ball fuel would come out from behind where the carbs were
@bradeagle9724
@bradeagle9724 4 жыл бұрын
Having issues with my yamaha F115 making oil and recently started only reaching 4500 rpm (5800+ was max before). Dumped the oil and refilled to about halfway up the dipstick. Ran it 70-80 miles in one day and it starts running at 4500 and wanta to die like its starving for fuel. Bulb is partially collapsed but pumping while running doesnt do anything. I removed the mechanical LP fuel pump and no tears in either the rubber or clear plastic diaphragms. Could the one way valves be letting fuel into the crankcase somehow? Also have an oil leak what appears to be an upper crank seal. Could excess pressurization of the sump cause seal failure or leakage? Wish the yamaha LP pump wasnt $200...seems excessive for what it is.
@Warrenwilds
@Warrenwilds 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Stu! Thanks for the videos brother! While watching your choke video I had a thought that may be my be the answer to my bogging at wot. Can you confirm please: The read valve on the 2nd fuel pump in this video (used on 2002 Yamaha 90hp), is what I have. Should both reed valves sit closed (touching the seat), when installed. If one is lifted enough to see that it is not seated (maybe 3mm gap), would that cause bogging at wot? I will need to confirm, but I think I have this condition with one of my reed valves. I am getting exited and cant wait to get home and check my pump. I will comment if that is the problem, because as you said, I have never seen an issue with those reed valves, but I may have missed this a few night s ago. Thanks brother!
@chadharrelson2880
@chadharrelson2880 5 жыл бұрын
So I've been learning from your videos and so far, I've cleaned the VST and screens, replaced the fuel filters, tested and replaced a high pressure pump that I think was working (The new one is louder and sounds stronger), cleaned the low pressure pump, it was very dirty and caked with black debris which I believe to be a disintegrating bulb which I also replaced. The reed valves looked like new and I couldn't see daylight through or any tears in the diaphragm, I put it back on, not firing. I've replaced the spark plugs which were all fouled - Wet, black. still not firing. It is leaking a steady stream of fuel out the prop and it is still not getting any pressure at the VST. I don't think the fuel is getting to the fuel rail. Do you think that the low pressure pump may still have an issue and needs to be replaced? Could it be that the plunger is sticking causing the leak? What else could cause the leak? It starts dripping straight away as I turn the key, or if I squeeze the bulb a couple of times. Thanks for your help! By the way it is a mercury 60 HP 4 cylinder 4 stroke efi. 2009. It has always fired right up at the bump of the key. It has never sat for more than a couple of weeks until now. Maybe around 350 hours on it.
@DangarMarine
@DangarMarine 5 жыл бұрын
If fuel is leaking out the exhaust it must be getting into the cylinder. Do you see any spark if you hold a plug against the cylinder block?
@chadharrelson2880
@chadharrelson2880 5 жыл бұрын
@@DangarMarine I found and fixed that leak, and have now also replaced the fuel lines. Still not luck. Replacing the low pressure pump got it to idle but it will die after a few seconds if I hit the throttle. Any other things I can check? Thanks for your help! I really appreciate it!
@chadharrelson2880
@chadharrelson2880 5 жыл бұрын
I got it running! Dude you are awesome! It was a combination of the low pressure pump needing replaced, and a very tiny piece of debris in the fuel line below the float needle in the VST. not even 1/16 inch piece of black debris which I believe is what caused the low pressure pump to fail. The primer bulb was deteriorating inside. Your videos saved me a lot of money! Thank you so much!
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