Two Ford F-150 Lightning Owners Reveal The Good & Bad! One Year Later

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ONE YEAR LATER! Meet Mike Gilbert and Jay Giordano. Two friends that just happen to own the same exact trucks which are both Lariat versions of the F-150 Lightning. Let's hand the mic's over to both of them to hear them discuss the pros, cons and real world livability of these vehicles.
The original video shot in July 2023 with Mike and Jay can be found here:
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[@ryanwalters6184]

I got to say the F-150 lightning is the ultimate daily driver sleeper. There is no better daily driver than this truck. It can do anything around town and it has crazy power. It so smooth and quiet. It is my wife's daily driver now As she loves it so much. I live on the east coast beach And had no problem taking my standard range lightning to the highest City on the East Coast to go skiing In the dead of winter. That vehicle is a beast in the mountains. It was almost too good. I couldn't even get it that loose in the snow. 😂

[@SparkySho]

@@ryanwalters6184 glad ur happy thanks for the update

[@jaykuykendall7660]

Thanks Dave for this kind of follow up. Your original video really helped me in my decision to get a Lightning Lariat ER last week! I was pleased ro see how these guys were and how their trucks are holding up. Hopefully we can get more of these types of follow ups!

[@Mkg254]

Congrats on the new Truck! I am sure you will love it. Check out www.lightningclubsofamerica.org/ for a group in your area. Lots of fun meet ups and involvement in a great community.

[@paname514]

Congratulations!! Definitely a solid choice

[@ElitWolf01]

Great recap video, I have a 2023 F150 Lariet - I took a 10 day trip in july from Idaho to Nevada.. spent 2 days in SLC, 3 days in St. George Ut, 3 days in Las Vegas, & 2 days going back .. but the take away after 2,045 miles driven, 54hrs driving , 2.0 mi/Kw... I love the truck & yes it took us 7hrs of charging along the path (Total charging cost $319) .. but the charging times were really unnoticable as you are breaking up the long drives, and getting to stretch and snacks (Team Food err Ford). 14,500 miles since ownership and I do have some minor gripes like the 1) wireless charging pad does not work with "mag safe" cases. so i use a external vent charger 2) the Android Auto disconnects as you cross specific areas ((identified 2 in idaho I drive by frequently)) need better bluetooth/wifi connection.. 3) Not an issue localy, but charging network outages - In nevada I had several EA stations with 4 stalls and 1 offline or out of order.. I opted to use Tesla superchargers most the time for that reason, but when i called EA they said they were aware of the outages and was working on them. Otherwise it's been great truck, & I wont think of trading it in until after 2026 so I can get new Subscriptions terms (blue-cruise) , NAC's native cahrging port, Heat pump, and any new features they add.

[@michealnordin]

Love my Lightning !🌩

[@TheRosebudz]

I'm loving mine since I picked up an XLT with extended range battery in april. The Model 3 is collecting dust in the garage since april. I think this truck is more practical for me and just as smooth as the tesla.

[@guyh.4553]

@@TheRosebudz so as far as "extended range" goes, how far is that?

[@brita654]

@@guyh.4553 My XLT Extended IS RATED 320 MILES. Highway driving is 15-20% less than that. Winter driving another 10-15%. So together you could experience a 25% -35% hit. There is a learning curve. But there is also a financial savings curve over ICE vehicles....and when youre talking truck mpg the money saved can be substantial. I really like this truck

[@kelviskelvis7140]

The F-150 lightning is a great truck. It is nice to have notable worthy competition in the market place. It will be interesting to see what RAM REV does to the market. I am a Chevrolet Silverado EV owner. I am very pleased with my truck. I think as these urban marketed trucks get better the general truck market for the masses will start to get more and more de-iced.

[@CorbinStephens-e9b]

Got my F150 Lightning Flash about a month ago. I must say if forces me to be intentional in planning my driving and my driving in general. I understand the Guess o Meter should not be taken literally (I was upset that it didn't seem I would get 320 miles on an Extended Range). But the range is really dependent on how I drive it. I do mostly highway driving and try to keep it between 65-70 mph. If I drive it like I stole it i notice I burn through the battery much quicker. That being said I'm still learning the vehicle and how to manage the battery. For whatever reason I can't charge it to 100% with public charging. I just bought the Ford Pro Charging Station and plan to get it installed ASAP as I think that will make a big difference! This is especially needed for my daily commute to work.

[@gtrtuben]

There is a “one-time charge limit” button on the charging screen. Default limit is 90, but if you set that to 100, that specific charge will go all the way.

[@1shotray]

Wish I could trade my F-150 ICE for a Lightning but the better half says no. This was a fun conversation.

[@djcali001]

Another underrated long-term quality of life thing with Ford EVs is their commitment to not paywalling phone as a key and other basic remote functions on their vehicles. I refuse to buy any EV where they paywall digital key and cabin pre-conditioning which seems to leave me with only three options: Ford, Rivian, and Tesla. Everyone else seems determined to soak their customers for something that can easily be done with a local bluetooth connection at no cost to the manufacturer.

[@darpompie4354]

One of the reasons I just purchased a lightning over a Silverado. I have a Cadillac ELR and can't even launch the app unless I get a subscription. They even had the nerve to want to charge me for a safety software update where everyone else is doing free OTA updates with new features. I walked out of the service bay with no update and vowed that this is my last GM. Now they even got rid of CarPlay for their new vehicles... Ford's free software updates, free app use and free services are a breath of fresh air and they should be commended more for how they are doing it.

[@htiek30120]

Nice video. Thanks for following up! It's good to hear positive accounts of F-150 Lightning ownership. I was beginning to wonder. My dad bought a Platinum in June '23 and it's been in the shop for 3+ months with HV battery issues. Now he doesn't trust the vehicle and wants to switch to the Denali EV.

[@Mkg254]

The GMC Denali EV looks slick!

[@brita654]

3 months? Holy cow? That is ridiculous. Surprising thats allowed to happen

I love the ford f 150 lightening ands agree I would get one with the smaller screen.. trying to decided between a rivian or a ford.. probably would get the ford due to its dealer network..

[@Mkg254]

For what it’s worth I think size and cost should be the determining factors.

[@brita654]

I met a Rivian owner at a charging station and we spoke for 20 min or so and when I was driving away I was glad I had a Ford Lightning

[@581rma]

Excellent video I like her comment. “Just get in and drive.”

[@taxman121]

Buying a Flash this week!

[@Mkg254]

Nice congrats!

[@KaiPonte]

Good video! You don't mention that you need to drive 500 miles daily while towing a 25' travel trailer. One thing to note - Ford is going to make smaller cars. The F150 is absolutely massive.

[@Mkg254]

Haha that would be an adventure!

[@nicolaseager631]

i was just watching the dog the whole time

[@Mkg254]

Rocky steals the show!

[@SparkySho]

Sure Issa very pretty puppy back there . Tytyty for taking great care of it

[@Mkg254]

This is best comment yet! Rocky loves the water!

[@dennissabo3885]

Easy for legacy carmakers to blame bad sales on range anxiety, poor infrastructure, etc. when in fact the product needs to be improved. Example, Tesla model y and cybertruck sales still great. Wonder why?

[@Mkg254]

Yeah that’s an interesting point, however, I would point out that long before the Model Y or 3 was a thing Tesla was and still is to an extent very focused on charging infrastructure. Their reliability and availability along with end to end software integration pretty much eliminate those concerns. Giving them a huge advantage over legacy carmakers. Having access to the Tesla network has been a game changer and I would not consider buying another EV without that access.

[@dennissabo3885]

@@Mkg254 I agree. But once again, Ford, G.M. etc. are now dragging their feet to take advantage of the NACS network. I will always have at least one Tesla but I would like to try another EV model as well but not if I have to use the CCS network. Ironically though I won't have another EV to try if legacy companies continue to delay or stop production of EV's.

[@darpompie4354]

I would check again on those cybertruck numbers. Last I heard is that they already managed to get through their 2 million preorders and only had a 1% uptake. You can now order a cybertruck and get one fairly soon. Ford has been making F150's when Tesla was still in diapers. If you think the quality of the F150 requires "improvement" over that of the cybertruck, you haven't been watching enough videos on all the things going wrong with the cybertruck. The only reason Cybertruck had good numbers was because of the initial backlog from people wanting to be cool. You will now start to see those numbers tank as quality concerns, discontinued lower trim model, and cool factor dissipates. As mentioned, range anxiety and poor infrastructure are the reasons for poor uptake of EV's and not because everyone wants a cybertruck.

[@dennissabo3885]

@@darpompie4354 WOW Don't lose your mind! The race from ocean to ocean and the race done the east coast with Kyle and Dave O'Connor et al showed a very poor performance from the F150 EV. Poor SOFTWARE QUALITY proved to be the disqualifier. As for the numbers, you get yours from someone and I get mine from someone. Actually, who can we really believe. Right? Who cares. Let's all get together and promote ev adoption. I'm in it to clean our environment. All I know is that I have 2 Teslas. Plug them in, unplug them and go. It doesn't get more complicated than that at home and on road trips. Every first timer should get a Tesla and have an uncomplicated EV experience. Then get a legacy EV with poor software and attempt to charge at EA. Happy motoring!

[@Mkg254]

Best part of going to an EA station? They are so bad that they often can’t even process payments and charging is free. They work flawlessly when in free vend mode. Haha

[@jeffs6090]

When will we see the rest of your vacation videos? I still want to see that tour of the cruise ship and others you mentioned you were going to do.

[@outofspecdave1554]

Soon. I have two left to edit The ship tour and a two day road trip video in England with Kathy in an MG4 EV

[@dennissabo3885]

Looking forward to more vids Dave. You and Kathy are the best!

[@s-man3684]

Ford has the most recalls 3 years running. Congratulations!

[@EricJenney-x8z]

Is this video coming from Highland Lake in Winsted, CT?!

[@Mkg254]

Sure is!

[@outofspecdave1554]

Yes!

[@bigdougscommentary5719]

Ford's problem with the Lightning are no economy of scale and low efficiency that requires an oversized battery.

[@paname514]

Meanwhile tesla truck reliability is down the sink. Owners report catastrophic failure after catastrophic failure and loads of bugs. Without counting all the software and driver aid features still missing. Yet tesla is much more expensive and has lower range.

[@ultrastoat3298]

15:42 I don't think this is true anymore. Cybertruck is now the best selling EV truck.

[@Mkg254]

In Cybertruck first quarter of sales they edged out the Lightning but annual units still go to the Lightning. We will see if the numbers hold for this quarter. Seeing a lot more CT’s out there now.

[@TroySavary]

One good sales month does not make Cybertruck a winner.

[@ultrastoat3298]

@@TroySavary Denial of reality? I guess declining F150 Lightning sales makes it a winner is your point. lol

[@TroySavary]

@ultrastoat3298 Lightning sales are up year over year. This August, they are up 160% over last August. They are up 86% YTD overall same period last year. Maybe check what 'declining' means before making an idiot of yourself.

[@brita654]

@@TroySavary I agree. Not declining. Just not growing at the hoped for rate....there are government "leaders" that publicly dispute environmental facts "leading" to poor adoption of EV's

[@xlargetophat]

Hybrids are short term future

[@adamcooke6994]

The Ford pick up costs as much as a Porsche thats just a dumb investment, you loose half the value the minute you drive off the lot, literally!!!

[@adamcooke6994]

Fords are now built for people that can afford 100grand for a second vehicle! The Fseries trucks, mustangs, SUVs, Anything with decent options is $100,000 bucks said and done for a Ford Pick Up? No thanks

[@teop7887]

Nothing like smug ev owners talking about their ev trucks

[@adamcooke6994]

And these people with cottages and boats and waterfront property are the ones to throw away 100k on a way over priced pick up, and wait till it needs a new battery their 30g lol😮

[@Josh-179]

EV packs will typically outlast gas engines.

[@adamcooke6994]

@Josh-179 who told you that? lol, tesla packs are dying after 200,000 kms in places with cold weather

[@Josh-179]

@@adamcooke6994 , like engines dying before that mileage, that's a rare exception. I've been following EVs for years and most never need battery replacements.

[@adamcooke6994]

@Josh-179 Teslas batteries are designed to last 8 years or 200,000miles, My 2010 hemi ram had 370,000kms when I sold it in 2020 and ran perfect, and looked almost new my 2020 Ram has 120,000 kms and still looks and drives like new, I also had a 2007 BMW 550i that had 380,000 when I traded it in, and all I did was keep up the service and take care of these and I literally never had to fix anything major on any of them, oil, tires, tune ups, plugs and wires, and a sensor on the beemer, I only had 1 car die, my first car, a 90 civic, I blew the head gasket but I drove it really hard and had cheap ass mods lol

[@adamcooke6994]

@Josh-179 other than the civic and a 98 GTP Coupe I've always had V8s but they always ran great with the right maintenance, I had to replace struts on the GTP and bearings in the supercharger

[@Thrice-er6ry]

Pretentious and narcissistic….

[@enoughofthis]

Please don't forget to mention "Sponsored by Ford"

[@outofspecdave1554]

Your statement is 100% wrong. That is why I did not state this was the case.

[@TroySavary]

Butthurt Tesla stans can't stand that Lightning isn't breaking down first week of ownership.

[@brita654]

@@TroySavary Butthurt lol?? If you can wait all this time and can afford a Cybertruck your not butthurt if theres some bugs. And if you are butthurt you shoulnt have been an early adopter.

[@TroySavary]

@@brita654 Read again. They butthurt the Ford is better so are claiming the video is sponsored to attempt to explain that away.

[@stanpiers247]

The more I watch EV videos I get the feeling the presenters themselves want to be you father, mother, best friend, guru etc but most of all they WANT money which is the only GREEN they know. I do think some of them in the beginning want to educate you on electric vehicles. It then becomes evident that they are looking for money. The biggest thing is there is sometimes a mystery of any education that would make them experts on electric vehicles. I guess they consider OTJ their education to be experts when they are in real life experts on NOTHING !!!!

[@Mkg254]

I haven’t received a penny. I happen to think this community of early adopters is filled with great people who enjoy sharing their experiences. Most people I met along the way have tons of questions and interest in this space but only get a few headlines. We all know headlines can be misleading. Therefore those are the reasons I choose to share my personal experiences. That and because I like doing it.

[@wadowjr5]

@@stanpiers247 what? How is out of spec Dave clearly out for money? What in the world are you talking about?

[@sirgardensalot]

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