Outside Jaws For 4" Mill Vise

[@bigmotter001]

10K headed to 100K before you know it. Nice project and thanks for taking us along. Take care.

[@ActiveAtom]

Way to go, this is good for you. Nice reminder f these jaws being able to mount to the outside. We sure like your counter bore bit being used by you for the holes in the second or new set of vise jaws. We always like the tools we do not yet have your surface grinder sure puts a nice accurate finish on them new jaws. Thank you, Lance & Patrick.

[@tobarapprentice6618]

I think it “very cool” that you ground the ends..... As a viewer I could tell that every time you looking at those jaws you were going to think, “Why didn’t I just grind the ends”. You are a craftsman, and I really enjoyed this video. And thank you for not “settling”. Cheers

[@edwardcook9957]

Thanks for showing us these neat projects.Congratulations on 10k subscriptions. Keep up the good work I enjoy it.

[@sharkrivermachine]

Nice idea and build. Congratulations on 10,000.

[@stringmanipulator]

I think that is a great idea that I really want to replicate (except the surface grinder which I don't have ... 😁) fantastic work

[@terrycannon570]

Lee at 17:51 you can see the knobs you made for the table lock on the X axis. I like this . When time permits i will do something similar to my PM 833-T. I always love the simple things you created for your shop. I am one of those guys that has a machine shop just to make things for his machine shop. I really love the resurrection of old machines so that is the primary purpose of my shop is to support my Iron deficiency (addiction.) lol

[@priority2]

Great idea and video. Love your channel! You’re a great teacher 👍😊

[@shawnmrfixitlee6478]

Now that is a super awesome Idea !! .. ENJOYED .. Thanks Lee..

[@BenAtTheTube]

Thank you, I DO like this! I have moved (one of) the regular jaws to the outside on occasion, but taller outer jaws for permanent installation is a great idea!

[@stretch130MFE]

You made it to 10K! Congrats Mr. Lee. Well deserved.

[@rickrick1867]

great idea and lots of useful information in this video - thanks

[@junkmannoparts9696]

Good video just starting out. My new five in. vise had grindings behind the fixed jaw . One day I'll have to try making a set using three in. facing cutter.

[@howder1951]

Congratulations on the subs Lee. I enjoyed this project very much and I'll have to make a set of those without the grinder of course. Cheers and best regards!

[@robertoswalt319]

Nice video and congratulations on passing the 10k mark. With the quality of videos you have been making, I am sure the numbers will continue.

[@markrosa5575]

Good job, Sir. I am honored to be a subscriber.

[@danr.6882]

Great job Lee !!! I love your projects and have been making some of them for my workshop. I remember seeing and commenting on the auxilary jaws on your Harbor Freight Mini Mill when you did the Power Cross Feed project. Congrats on 10K. Please keep up the great work... DJ

[@MrPragmaticLee]

Dan R. My mini mill is actually from Little Machine Shop. 😀 Thanks for stopping by.

[@danr.6882]

@@MrPragmaticLee- Wow, I have one of each. A Red HFT & a Blue LMS 3900. I'm in the process of making power feeds for both of them, thanks to your video encouragement. For that I say THANK YOU !!!

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Congrats on reaching the 10K milestone.

[@pauldevey8628]

Nicely done Lee.

[@chadharrelson5404]

Thanks Lee. I’ll be building a set of these this weekend.

[@MrPragmaticLee]

You’re welcome to bring them over anytime and polish them on the surface grinder.

[@eyuptony]

Well done 10K subs. You've got 11k now. A good project to do to get more use out of your vice.

[@mekhigary3241]

Pro trick: you can watch movies at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching all kinds of movies recently.

[@denverfrancisco3365]

@Mekhi Gary Yup, been watching on flixzone for since november myself :)

[@curtisvonepp4335]

I'm surprised more people haven't stumbled across the air ratchet trick Thanks for pointing that out 🙌🔔🔔🔔

[@MaturePatriot]

10K now! Congratulations!! Nice outside jaws. I like your grinder. I just missed a very nice 6x12 KO LEE this week.

[@mikeouendag7323]

Thank you Lee for the great idea!

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

That is a good idea. Congratulations on the 10K subs. I hope to get there someday myself.

[@CraigLYoung]

Congratulations on 10k! Good project too.

[@georgetouliatos5972]

Lol. I've been an avid woodworker since my Mom bought me a saber saw for Christmas when I was 11. I'm 71 now and always wanted to try machining (I bought a mini lathe and a mini mill). I wondered why they drilled and taped both ends of the vise. Thanks for clearing that up.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

Hey, saw the little box on your page saying 10K subs, congratulations! Nice job on the jaws too, they came out very nicely! I'd like to make some for my vise too at some point, it's just a ways down the list. Yours look very good with the surface ground finish.

[@RaptorMachineToolCo]

Lee, you are showing off !!! LOL congrats

[@JimG31547]

Congratulations on 10K subscribers

[@LetsRogerThat]

Great tip thanks Lee

[@RagsdaleCreek]

Nice video!👍 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Watching in Alabama!

[@deweys]

That's pretty slick!!

[@xkabedaruhe2956]

Congrats for 10k!

[@thomascheatham3519]

Great video I need to do the same thing I enjoy your channel learn alot.

[@AWDJRforYouTube]

Nice idea for the 4" vise, Congrats on the 10K! I've had 128 subscribers +- for over 10 years lol!

[@richharr]

Al AWDJR i just made 176!

[@AWDJRforYouTube]

@@richharr Thanks Rich, I just subbed to make yours 76 lol! "Were on a roll...look out world"

[@pweimer47]

Great video! What coolant system are you using on the Mill?

[@incubatork]

Nice project especially having a surface grinder. Probably the camera but it looks like the rear jaw is not touching the rear jaw stop, when i watched you put them on it looked like the cap screws would touch in the hole and i thought that was the cause but as you did not mention anything i put it down to camera angle. well done on the 10k subs, next stop 50k as you are worth it.

[@SpencerWebb]

Grats on 10K!

[@anthonycash4609]

Mr Lee I had started typing that I use a air ratchet for mine when you pulled yours out. Funny how we all think almost alike.

[@asimonp79]

Thanks!!

[@JamesDedmon]

That would be handy perhaps I’ll get around to making a set for my 6 inch Kurt

[@jeffryblackmon4846]

To remove and reinstall the jaw bolts, I would not use an air wrench- too noisy. I'd buy ball-end hex wrenches. This is a great project to emulate in my own shop. Thanks.

[@melgross]

I’ve got a cheap 4” mill vise I bought 22 years ago. Since I never used a 4” before I bought that one, I didn’t realize it wasn’t really “standard”, that is, met the dimensions of a Kurt. I bought a pair of SnapJaws. They didn’t fit. It turns out that a 4” vise should have 3/8” screws, exactly 2.5” apart, and this didn’t. The cheaper vises have 5/16” screws, and the spacing was just far enough off so that I couldn’t get both screws in. Since the accuracy was never too high, but just barely acceptable in the beginning, and has deteriorated since, meaning that really accurate setup had become more effort than necessary, I decided to stop using it. More recently I bought a good Grizzly vise on sale from them for $315, which, from people I know in the business, say is about as good as the $575 4” Kurt DX4. That has standard spacing, and the proper 3/8” screws. Plus, it opens 6.25”. I never trusted the outside jaws on my old vise because of the smaller screws. Using them to just hold the jaws under pressure against the vise faces, on the inside isn’t a problem. But on the outside, the screws are under tension. With the jaws so high and far away from the screws, there’s a risk of stretching the screws, and having them fail. So caution to not tighten the vise too much when using them. 3/8” screws are more than twice as strong, and aren’t as much of a problem, additionally reassuring with the much higher quality of the 90,000 psi castings.

[@charlieharper981]

It is amazing how many people don't know what those extra tapped holes are for. The last set I did were 6" tall for the task of that day.

[@wnebergall]

Lee are there any videos or documentation on your drive for the surface grinder? I find it interesting.

[@MrPragmaticLee]

Bill Nebergall Not yet Bill - it’s something I put together myself. I have some video, but just haven’t put it together yet. I plan to do that before too much longer though. Thanks for stopping by.

[@brandontscheschlog]

Nice job! How does your PM mill do turning that large slitting saw? Does it have more than enough power for this tool or is it just enough? This is the mill I am considering getting

[@MrPragmaticLee]

Brandon Tscheschlog It handles the slitting saw very well; however, I've found that the key to slitting like this is to have a quality saw. I tried some of the cheap import ones, but they would fail when cutting anything other than aluminum. Of course that seems to be true for end mills as well.

[@weshowe51]

With the setup you have for the chamfers, 0.045" cut is giving you an 0.064" flat... just a touch over 1/16". A 0.044" cut would put you spot on. The magic number to calculate that is 0.707 (half of the square root of two). 71% is close enough (meaning 0.044" is 71% of 0.0625 [1/16"]). They're equilateral right triangles, and thus have easy rules.

[@Conno9220]

Asking again. Can you talk about the power feed on the surface grinder? Is it factory or did you make / retro fit it?

[@MrPragmaticLee]

The power feed is something I build myself. I have video of the build and will put it together soon. Thanks for stopping by.

[@Conno9220]

MrPragmaticLee Great. Recently picked up a Walker surface grinder. It’s basically the same as the Harig 612, just a bit older. I believe Harig purchased walker and incorporated that design into their product line. I’ve been trying to find more information on that subject. I hope to add a power feed to it.

[@johncrea9395]

Did you check to see if the outside fixed jaw was parallel to the inside fixed jaw?Also, since this is a Kurt clone, did you check to see how much the moveable outside jaw moved up when the vise was tightened - since the kurt design pulls the inside of the moveable jaw DOWn when the vise is tightened? Lastly, sine tou are using the top edge of the vise jaw bodies as a reference point, did you sweep that top surface for flatness and co-planar? None of these are important for non-precise work using the outside jaws, but could be an error inducing issue with precise work John

[@hussainali9999]

Thank, and one more fellower

[@BrianPPP123]

Congratulations on 10 thousand! I just bought a PM-727M Mill and I need a good vise that won’t break the bank. What make and model is your vise?

[@MrPragmaticLee]

BrianPPP123 My vise is an import marketed under the name HHIP - here’s Amazon’s description “HHIP 3900-2102 Pro-Series Heavy Duty Milling Vise with Swivel Base”. So far I’ve been really happy with it. Thanks for stopping by.

[@BrianPPP123]

Thanks Lee!

[@19441978]

Lee, what or the dimensions on your V blocks and 1-2-3 blocks, I have a Harig grinder and need to find me some. Did you get Chinese or US made. Thanks

[@MrPragmaticLee]

If you're talking about the magnetic transfer blocks, they are a set I found on eBay. They're called MAGNE BLOX by Geo Scheer Co. New York. Thanks for stopping by.

[@jeffreyhalpern5718]

I think you should have turned the blocks 45 degrees while chattering so as not to wear the wheel in one spot. Sweet jaws.

[@ÁREAJ27]

Muito bom amigo!!!Excelente vídeo amigo!!!Obrigado e saudações do Brasil!!!Like!!!

[@willisworms]

Hello, great video and congratulations on the 10k subs! I have been looking for a video explaining your power x feed attachment on the surface grinder and cant seem to find any. Is it a custom built attachment? If so I would love to see a video about i

[@MrPragmaticLee]

willisworms Thanks for stopping by. The feed is a custom build and video will be coming out soon, so please stay tuned.

[@willisworms]

@@MrPragmaticLee Thank you for the response! I must admit, I have been eyeballing it in your videos for awhile now.

[@makkfitty1627]

Why beveling on the surface grinder ,much slower operation than doing it on the mill since you have the vice set ip just put 45 tool and done in two minutes.

[@mikeweller9933]

Ball drivers!

[@davont9965]

Ball nose allen key

[@daveprototype6079]

Congrats... on the 10K I am trying to get 1000 subscribers myself Cheers

[@horacerumpole6912]

"Kurt style"…translation: rip-off chicom JUNK! No sub here dad!