Overanalyzing Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Part 2

[@DabigJK]

This is like my new weekly tv show. 11pm Friday night, the gold man. Making the best YT video

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

11pm friday night, interesting. If you don't mind me asking where are you in the world? I upload the videos 9am eastern standard time. Are you in Australia or Japan?

[@DabigJK]

@@starwarsoveranalyzedI am in Australia

[@lasercraft32]

"this is the first time in the franchise we see a hologram by the way" Um... Leia's message? :/

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

A that was a recording, I meant a live hologram with open communication

[@russellharrell2747]

@@starwarsoveranalyzedthen…you should have clarified. Both Leia’s message and the Dejarik game characters were examples of holograms, while we do not see holograms used for Skype calls until TESB.

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

Post Release Notes: -I said the small hologram of Vader was the first hologram shown in the movies. Of course Leia's message in ANH is the first hologram, what I meant to say was that the scene with Vader was the first time there was a live hologram where there was open communication. Leia in ANH was just a recording.

[@BrandonDenman]

I like the idea that while Yoda is acting when he meets Luke, he’s still at least a little bit bat shit insane from chilling there by himself lmao

[@wouters1180]

In combat situations, snowtroopers disembark from an AT-AT by fast-roping down from a crane through a large hatch in the side. In addition, an At-AT will indeed kneel down like a camel in non-combat situations.

[@BranakinSkywalker]

7:20 in a deleted scene, Luke did tell Leia that he was going to the Dagobah system, but then she lost her shit on him and called him and Han moon jockies accusing the two of just running away, despite Luke admitting he didn’t know Han leaving too.

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

Interesting, I must’ve forgotten about that deleted scene

[@BranakinSkywalker]

@@starwarsoveranalyzedI think it’s on the complete saga blu ray. If you watch HelloGreedo, he made some videos covering the deleted scenes, that’s where I first discovered it

[@sebastianoleary2743]

5:55 another fun fact about that shot, the foreground with the Rebels running was filmed for a scraped sequence when they were supposed to be advancing. But after they cut that part, they added the walker in the background, and it was changed to them retreating.

[@cheesydanishgaming3333]

3:19 idk if its official canon but The rts strategy game “Empire at war” shows a hatch underneath the belly of the walker that opens up to deploy a squadron of stormtroopers And then they repel from the belly to the surface

[@JoshuaDHSW]

I am ok with how Yoda acted in Last Jedi because of Return of the Jedi. People forget how he joked with Luke. “When 900 years old you reach, look as good, You will not!” Yoda had a sense of humor, especially when they weren’t training. And I’m sure once Yoda was a ghost, he and Luke became good friends. So no, Yoda joking around in Last Jedi was totally in character for him

[@Finfection]

For sure! His portrayal in TLJ was definitely more in line with how he was in the OT. Yoda in the PT was almost a more serious character.

[@robberonbrent]

My only complaint about this series is that these videos could be 5x longer. Overall masterful stuff. Love all your insight.

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

Just wait until I get to the prequels and sequels

[@richardd5645]

0:25 fun fact, I often park my car where those snow speeders took off from (Sound Stage 6, Esltree studios is now a massive Tescos supermarket).😁

[@CloaxHere]

2:50 The AT-DP Wokiepedia says nothing about it making an appearance at the Battle of Hoth, meanwhile the AT-ST does. Additionally, LEGO came out with a Hoth AT-ST set a couple years ago. Other than that, another banger video Gold Man!

[@russellharrell2747]

The AT-ST in the battle of Hoth was a variant that had an enclosed cockpit (similar to the larger walkers) while the ones we see on Endor had open viewports with shutters. The AT-DP was based on concept art for TESB.

[@randallwong7196]

George Lucas was watching a documentary with camels, and thought "What if camels could shoot lasers from their heads?" So this is what we got.

[@kdusel1991]

So happy this is back!!

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

New episode every friday!

[@davidpowell9218]

"att-att" is the official pronunciation from Lucas himself. The acronym AT-AT was arranged specifically so it could be pronounced that way. So while "a-tee a-tee" is acceptable, it's not official.

[@Slacking02]

Great work!

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

Thank you!

[@LandspeederLuke]

Love this series!

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

I love you

[@michaelkirste2432]

As an original Star Wars kid (I was 8 in 77), I never even heard A-T-A-T until something like 25 years later. My toy was/is an AT-AT. The other pronunciation is like nails on a chalkboard to me, truly. (Oh, and the little one is a “chicken walker” 😋)

[@russellharrell2747]

We don’t call them Tee-Eye-Eee fighters, we call them TIE Fighters. So of course AT-ATs are @-@s.

[@white-dragon4424]

@@russellharrell2747 Yes, even Lucas calls them AT-ATs. And before anyone says anything, I say "AT-S-T".

[@michaelkirste2432]

@@russellharrell2747 I like this guy.

[@russellharrell2747]

@@white-dragon4424 they should have been AT-Ass-T because they were ASS.

[@kingofmonsters14]

*puts on the nerd glasses* the way Troopers debark from an AT-AT is via rope when the sides of the "belly" open up, like how real world soldiers descend from attack helicopters

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

nerd glasses are encouraged around here

[@SkysimAir]

Brilliant observations :D

[@Cmmdre977]

1:04 not to mention the only way it can defend or attack is by shooting directly in front of it. Everywhere that isn’t directly in front of it is a blind spot

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

good point!

[@EPPicstuff]

12:35 Yeah, it's almost like he has memory of Yoda. Like he got his MEMORY BANKS ERASED at the end of Revenge of the Sith. (He did.)

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

Only 3PO got his memory wiped, not R2

[@EPPicstuff]

@@starwarsoveranalyzed Huh. Went back and checked and I was wrong. Man, what's the point of having 3PO's memory wiped but not R2's. What's the point of R2 knowing everything but keeping it all a secret?

[@maxgraivier2024]

5:56 I think this is more of a camera perspective thing where the other rebels are still running away but are just out of frame. Other than that you’re on point.

[@jameslars7391]

About the visual storytelling at 6:22 when we see those few rebels running away from the outside we don't see anything to the left or front of the rebels running away so maybe the rest of the group running is just off screen and these are just the stragglers of that larger group we do get an angle change when we go into the A-T A-T.

[@davis1733]

As I recall the snowspeeders are basically civilian vehicles with added guns and armor, and the tow cables were used for hauling cargo. Using them in a combat role against the AT-ATs is supposed to be something Luke improvised in the moment.

[@EPPicstuff]

9:56 Bail Organa ordered C-3PO and R2-D2's memory banks be wiped in his last scene in Revenge of the Sith.

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

Only 3PO, not R2

[@EPPicstuff]

@@starwarsoveranalyzed Huh. Went back and checked and I was wrong. Man, what's the point of having 3PO's memory wiped but not R2's. What's the point of R2 knowing everything but keeping it all a secret?

[@ghostlyfieldclub2930]

Isn't Leia's distress fall the first hologram in the saga? Or do we make a distinction between the two?

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

Not wrong, but that’s more of a recording. I was referring to a live hologram

[@InvaderWeezle]

I took him to mean a live hologram that is communicating directly to someone

[@sinfjotlisghost465]

Vader might have remembered the Falcon as the ship that ambushed him just before he shot Luke's fighter at the end of ANH. He could have just cared about getting revenge.

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

Good point!

[@tasnica2438]

This, paired with Vader possibly sensing Leia (who's also Force-sensitive), are likely why he hesitated when seeing it flee the hanger.

[@SkywalkerFoe]

@@tasnica2438 He wouldn't have hesitated. That's just lazy writing from the Kenobi show. And no, he wouldn't have sensed Leia. She hasn't tapped into the force yet, and if Vader ever discovered she was force sensitive, it would've been in the interrogation.

[@dwaneanderson8039]

Yeah, Vader has some history with the Falcon at this point. It delivered Obiwan to the Death Star. Then the crew rescued Leia and left with a planted tracking device to find the Rebel's base. Then it returned to help destroy the Death Star. Vader would have been pretty familiar with this ship by now and could take a special interest in it.

[@russellharrell2747]

@@dwaneanderson8039yeah, he was like 10 feet from it in the last movie. It was the ship that he was tracking while hoping to end the rebellion but instead helped cause the destruction of the DS.

[@robertvarkonyi6399]

Rogue One fixed the issue with R2 not remembering Dagibah. Organs had his memory wiped.

[@tigerlux714]

Late comment you probly won’t see this but I have a cool thing to point out about the Hoth battle. There’s a line where one of the A wings calls himself “rouge two”. I wonder if the writers of Rogue One used this as some inspiration. Maybe indicating that the rebels honored the heroic sacrifice of the Rogue One squad by continuing the naming system?

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

I think it was retconned in a comic that rogue two was named after rogue one. Good catch! Btw I see every comment!

[@kingofmonsters14]

plus, Yoda has been on Dagobah for 23 years at that point, so he's likely gotten some personality quirks that comes from over 2 decades of exile

[@InvaderWeezle]

Interesting that you liked the "Rebels taking off" scene in this movie more than the one in A New Hope. What would you say is the difference? Also I'm only now realizing that Return of the Jedi doesn't really have an equivalent scene and that's a shame. The one in Empire kinda feels like a callback to the one in A New Hope to me, especially in the mono mix where there's no music

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

I’m not sure, maybe I just changed my mind.

[@InvaderWeezle]

@@starwarsoveranalyzed Fair enough. Loving this series!

[@simeonroberts2004]

I was about to comment and ask the same thing. Because I loved the X-Wing getting ready scene in A New Hope for the reason he said liked the speeder scene. I also like the speeder getting ready scene a lot

[@jamesfletcher8588]

the way stormtroopers get off the AT-AT: they repel from the bottom

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

I never knew that

[@russellharrell2747]

They can repel from the sides as well. There’s quite a few hatches all over.

[@ldguy5299]

My counter argument for Vader knowing the Millennium Falcon had Han and Leia on it to lure Luke into a trap would go back to the teachings Qui-Gon gave Anakin in Phantom Menace 1.) Remember, concentrate on the moment. Feel, don't think. Trust your instincts. 2.) I'm not allowed to train you, so I want you to watch me and be mindful. Always remember, your focus determines your reality. Perhaps being the first teachings of the Force stuck with him all those years. He trusted his instincts and then focused on them to make his reality (at the time of Episode 5) of crushing the Rebellion including anyone that stood in his way that got the best of him previously similar to his hunt for Obi-wan in the Obi-wan series.

[@richardd5645]

1:09 The Empire relies on having a technological and numerical advantage over the enemy. After all, who is their enemy? Their own populace. Similarly, Stuka dive bombers were terrifiying in the Battles for Poland, Norway, France and operation Barbarossa but quickly became a liability when the Germans lost air superiority. Is the AT-TE as durable as the AT-AT, being a lot smaller? It would make for a smaller target, but then wouldn't they have been vunerable to the fixed defences and Snow Speeder blasters?

[@shadowlazers]

Ya at at practicality has bothered me since I was as 11..but the imagery is undeniable

[@wickdaline8668]

2:49 - I thought that was an AT-ST, too.

[@SkywalkerFoe]

It is an AT-ST.

[@rlas]

To me the AT-AT design is flawed due to the way the empire is sure of their superiority. The canon is so powerful and that is everything they focused on. They never thought that one would get close to their walker.

[@shadowlazers]

The chess game on falcon in SW had holograms..and the r2 Leia message holographic?

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

I meant holograms with communication

[@zoranvoda]

It was not the 1st Time we See a Hologram in Empire Strikes Back! News Hope Princess Lea is played by R2's Holoprojektor

[@limegreensquid]

Small error, likely pointed out by others... but princess Leia's R2 message to Obi wan was the first hologram.

[@TheFlygon13]

The Empire must have a vast spy network so I’m sure somebody was able to give Vader some intel on the Falcon and it’s crew

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

That's likely

[@SkysimAir]

Vader just used the Force to feel who was on the Falcon.

[@limegreensquid]

THANK YOU!!! No one should EVER say At-At!! A.T.-A.T.!

[@raindeerprojekt4119]

The walkers were never meant to be practical always for intimidation

[@timharrod]

Gonna do the Holiday Special?

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

I doubt it

[@russellharrell2747]

@@starwarsoveranalyzedboo, don’t you want to torture yourself and the audience?

[@cozyburrito686]

I always preferred this version Yoda over the others, I mean he is very isolated and has had everything hes know wiped out, not to mention he likely, maybe felt some guilt(do Jedi feel guilt)?? Over Ashoka? Either way, I like a bit more of a loopier Yoda. Thanks for this! ❤

[@richardd5645]

12:30 The Force. The Force is the ultimate deux ex machina for story telling. The rules regarding the Force are deliberately vague and inconsistent thus ' they will exist until a need them not to'.

[@mrhollywood9318]

7:07 I believe he was 44 so he wasn’t that old

[@OeltheMandalorian]

R2 and 3PO need charging in the Clone Wars episode Nomad Droids.

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

I don't remember the clone wars as well. But btw I love your profile pic

[@OeltheMandalorian]

@@starwarsoveranalyzed 😃

[@russellharrell2747]

3po shut down in ANH at Ben’s hut, presumedly to conserve power and allow his internal repair mechanisms to ‘heal’ his arm.

[@DabigJK]

AtAt the people that say that need to reconsider their pronunciation

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

A-T-A-T

[@white-dragon4424]

George Lucas calls them AT-ATs, not A-T-A-Ts... The worst thing about the AT-AT is that there's no rear defence. It would've been quite easy for the model builders to construct blaster turrets on the upper rear part of the hull to fight off attacks from the rear and the sides. Vader's hologram isn't the first time we see one in the series. The first one is Leia's in ANH. The way the Rebel pilots talk in the movie it comes across as if the AT-AT is a relatively new weapon in the Empire, because they have to discover a way to combat them. They also don't realise at first that their cannons wont affect them. The two legged walker shown in the battle IS an AT-ST. It was thought up and designed by Joe Johnston, almost on a whim. Its design wasn't fully developed until ROTJ. I believe that they retconned the slight difference in the design to mean it was simply an older model or a cold weather variant. The ones you show in the clip were designed for the EU. They were single man walkers called the AT-PT. Troops embark into the AT-AT via doors in the side of the main hull. There's two ways for them to disembark from the AT-AT during battle. First, is that the sides of the main body flap down and the troops shimmy out on cables. You see this in Adywan's special edition of the movie, but it was described many years before he showed it. The second lesser used way is for the AT-AT to "kneel". Adywan corrected the amount of AT-ATs and their positions. He also put many more AT-STs on the battlefield to protect the AT-ATs. Other than not giving the walkers rear defences and the speeders doing full frontal assaults where their weapons are, the Star Destroyers colliding is the only other fault I can find with the movie. Even though seeing them collide is spectacular, in reality giant warships like that would've easily seen each other and swerved long before they came anywhere near colliding. Vader wants to capture the Falcon because he knows it either has Luke onboard, or if not he can use his friends as bait to draw him in. The rest of your questions are left up to audience presumption of things that happened between films, that Vader found out who the Falcon belonged to, that Han was best friends with Luke, and that Luke's likeness was circulated around the galaxy as the one who destroyed the Death Star. So pleeease, don't give anymore ideas to Lucas about over explaining things. As for constantly referencing the Clone Wars cartoon, ESB is far, far more canon than some silly CGI cartoon that was made decades afterwards, so I don't consider it canon.

[@rogermurph101]

Sorry champ, pretty sure we were calling them “at at’s” well before you were born.

[@beatrixmiller9396]

I will say the idea of the empire having weapons that are very visually terrifying but are incredibly impractical is a realistic depiction of a high tech fascist empire.

[@MeatsOfEvil]

How would I grade the practicality of the AT-AT? Well given the absolute certainty with which I would shit myself if I ever found myself on the wrong side of one due to the sheer terror factor, I'd say pretty high lol

[@vermilingua5312]

That's no AT-DP. It's a Chicken Walker.

[@alexneff]

@@

[@shadowlazers]

Not saying at at..is like not saying scuba..

[@daviddelarosa4955]

Please overanalyze the holiday special

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

Hahahah maybe!

[@beatrixwickson8477]

@@ vs 8080 pftt! Just say "ate-ate", then nobody is happy.

[@NinaFelwitch]

Two things about R2-D2. R2-D2 is just a model of astro mechs. There are thousands of them, maybe millions. Why would anyone recognize the R2 we know in particular? And I also think the R2 we know is just a huge prick. He probably knows all of these people but just doesn't give a damn.

[@shadowlazers]

Clone wars walker is more efficient...but no cool factor .

[@raindeerprojekt4119]

@@Walker

[@davidfrederick1971]

Sorry your INCORRECT on the pronouncing "AT-AT". It is pronounced ""AHT AHT" like in saying the word "Actually". BECAUSE I checked a Kenner toy commercial for that toy and its pronounced (like I said saying the word "Actually"

[@foleywallace459]

No doubt if Luke opening the AT-AT door with a lightsaber happened in the sequels people would say Mary Sue. 🙄 This is the only comment you keep on saying that annoys me. Sorry.

[@calebstickler2476]

R2's memory got wiped towards the end of E3

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

Only 3POs, not R2s

[@turntsnaco824]

​@@starwarsoveranalyzed Yeah, I used to think the same thing as OP, but I just rewatched it and they say to "wipe the memory of the protocol droid", presumably because of how easily he could tell what he knows. R2's knowledge is much more cryptic.

[@collegeman1988]

One of my nitpicks about your nitpicks is that you shouldn’t be using the Disney Star Wars films, including Rogue One, as part of your analysis or comparison because the Disney movies with the Star Wars name on them aren’t Star Wars movies.

[@russellharrell2747]

The films should speak for themselves, and to a lesser extent any previously released films at the time of their release.

[@white-dragon4424]

Or the continuity error filled PT.