Overcome Tank Anxiety in Final Fantasy 14 with Xeno (Former Rank 1 Warrior)

Xeno reacts to an article by Cedric Pabriga / IchikaRika about tank anxiety in Final Fantasy XIV and how to overcome it. Xeno gives his opinion on this matter as well.
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[@Kerran_Lionward]

The funniest thing to see is in alliance raids when tanks fight for aggro on the main boss and the boss is spinning around which usually ends up cleaving the rest of the group.

[@veridan2582]

Chaotic AR is best AR~

[@fnerXVI]

We had this happen last night during TEA prog. One of our tanks forgot to turn off stance and Alexander cleaved both healers and 3 DPS lmao

[@TheSchwanz47]

We call that a good old fashioned tank off. You fight for aggro without using provoke, as that is cheating. It's to establish dominance.

[@shaneh6707]

Even funnier when you're able to take aggro back without provoking it. Just DPS.

[@yunyunhakusho]

@@fnerXVI My TEA static's MT forgot to turn on stance during a pull. Our offtank probably turned stance on for a GCD or two because they had top aggro. MT: I don't have stance on. LL: *turns around and TBs everyone*

[@Hyskaris]

I think I accidentally benefited from the sprout experience way back when I started. FFXIV was my first MMO and I didn't even realise there were roles when I started the game. I just picked Paladin because I love the aesthetic of the sword and board. Despite reading all the tool tips and acknowledging I was tankier than most other classes because of tank stance and defensives, I still didn't correlate "you're the tank" with "you're holding enemy agro for the party's sake." I think it was around the time I reached Praetorium when I finally realised "OH IM A TANK??" and I wasn't just some weird mix between a tank and a dps. Tank anxiety didn't occur for me because I was too stupid to realise I was even tanking in the first place.

[@DN-qd4dp]

Nobody told you to turn your tank stance on ?

[@GoldenXShark22]

fellow smooth brain. literally my experience but because I went "wow what a cool axe".

[@_..Osh.._]

When i started tanking i thought you needed to constantly refresh your tank stance, so i would press tank stance on cd (this was before the cd reduction so it seemed reasonable to need to press an "emnity up" button every 10 seconds)

[@GroovyDean]

LOL. I can say that to myself. I think those of us who have no anxiety about tanking in the beginning are just those who are too stupid to be afraid. Overthinking is the root cause for anxiety.

[@Hyskaris]

@@DN-qd4dp You don't need to be told when you do it anyways.

[@skytron92]

1. Making mistakes is OK! 2. You WILL make mistakes, just acccept it 3. Learn from the mistakes, apply learned knowledge "The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried."

[@urser]

4. play WAR

[@Vampireinarm1]

Shut up bro

[@SuntanAlbino]

@skystron92 : I really like that quote, that's a good one. Solid advice!

[@Orphan_of_Kos_or_some_say_Kosm]

Everyone makes mistakes, but not everyone gets equally shit on for mistakes

[@sonoskay]

For me its less about making mistakes, because shit i make mistakes ALL the time as healer. But I approach things carefully, and am slow to pull groups because i wanted to know how far i needed to go, or what enemies will be gnawing on my ass for the next minute or so, and people just don't like that. There is always someone like Xeno who will run past me and pull for me to get the thing done faster. And it just doesn't matter. I'm the bad guy because im too slow for folk. So, i just wont tank unless i know the dungeon very well, but by that point, Id rather be healing anyway.

[@roupine]

My method of overcoming tank anxiety is to just always have anxiety so it gets lost in the background noise 👍

[@CammyWinters]

Tanxiety might seem silly to a lot of people but for me it comes from wanting people around me to have a good time. When im tanking im constantly thinking about things like am i pulling enough, is the healer able to keep up with me, am i using mits correctly, is the boss facing the correct way, are melee able to do positionals if i move out of this aoe etc. As a DPS i feel like i can get away with messing up because the responsibilities are more personal and not as noticeable.

[@yunyunhakusho]

I used to play SWTOR, so there's some tank anxiety in me when I first started playing FF14. I used to get yelled at in dungeons in SWTOR when I pulled a mob I could've skipped or not know the optimal way around the dungeon, so I kinda carried that mentality into 14 when I first started and did not play tank. It took me a while to pick up tanking but I did when I realized that no one's going to yell at me and it took me until doing Savage/Ultis to stop caring about what randos in a dungeon think. It sort of gave me perspective that the tanks I encountered + myself when I tank on hard content are/can be shit at the game and still clear and I was like... why was I worried about tanking in casual content.

[@DarukaEon]

DUDE!!! THIS!!! My brother gets on me about having Tankxiety all the fucking time that it's sickening. I envy him for not having it.

[@woofaloof7836]

The game literally takes care of most of those points already. You just run wall to wall because every dungeon is the same formulaic slop that has two packs max per pull other than the rare exception. You literally just have to turn the boss around and keep it relatively still. Mits you get a feel for and things like tankbusters are announced very brightly too anyway.

[@mosselyn5081]

This is my struggle, exactly. I do tank, infrequently, in this game because the community is more chill than others I've seen, and there's not such an expectation of leadership or knowing where to go. However, I still fret the whole time about whether or not I am handing my mits properly, even in just a leveling dungeon. Maybe it is because I main healer, and I know what a big difference good/bad mit rotations make. All that said, I have never had someone yell at me about my tanking or seen them yell at someone else who was struggling as a tank. The most I see is occasionally a suggestion about how to do better. If you want to tackle your tank anxiety, this is the game to do it in, IMO.

[@magusware8721]

Tanxiety is silly, it's just a fear of failure. Here are a few things to address those concerns - 1. Big enough pulls- If you can pull more, pull more - always wall to wall - * exception to this is some ARR dungeons where they didn't add any fun spoiling barriers. 2. Healer keeping up - The healer WILL keep up with you, sprint out of the gate and don't look back, your job is to go and gather the mobs and group them up 3. Mits - this one I can understand, general rule of thumb is don't use all at once, stagger them, double up the weaker mits. Don't forget about reprisal and arm's length, or even your super mitigation if you really need it (too many people sit on that don't use it, and I don't know why) 4. Boss direction - when in doubt, point it north, if still in doubt, just keep it facing where it is. As long as you don't spin it, the DPS won't have a problem. 5. Melee positions when dodging - Don't worry about that, don't even think about that, if you have to get out of AOEs you get out of AOEs, if its trash they wont be using positionals anyway, and if its a boss the boss is probably static at this point. If not the DPS have tools to aid with keeping positionals and uptime. That is not your concern. 6. Comment on your last point - oh... it's noticed, it's just that nobody cares... that's the point, and its the same on tank, if you fuck up - you fuck up - you are a human not a machine. And if people do notice that's good. Use it as motivation to improve, so not repeat those same mistakes. If you ever feel anxious about tanking or anything online really, remember you have a certain level of anonymity. People don't know who cammywinters6647 is in real life, so what does it matter if you fuck up from behind a screen? I hope this advice helps. Really I do. Good luck :)

[@JP-en7cc]

"fuck it, we ball" is literally what I say to my static whenever we are discussing about a new raid we are going to do

[@ShadyLurker16]

Tanking in an FC is fine, problem is DF where everyone is in a rush and gets mad if you don't do everything perfect and at lightning speed cause they've all done in 25 times before...

[@JP-en7cc]

@@ShadyLurker16 fuck em I'm here to press W, not to take Ls

[@nathan38938]

​@JP-en7cc facts

[@kleetin1292]

I’m 100% serious that “fuck if, we ball” has always helped so much with tank anxiety for me

[@hkoizumi3134]

This tank anxiety was even present during FF11 online back in 2003. I was there and I started as the Warrior which eventually became a Paladin. The leadership role came for the Tank to navigate through dangerous areas of the game and telling people where to go. So, this phenomenon has been a thing for a long time.

[@Roxasdakings]

TRUE and it happens in all games where there a roles.

[@rashid2898]

Tanking in FF11 was never bad, it was all Timing your abilities and mp management. just flash and sentinel man

[@Mcboogler]

​@rashid2898 This is correct. There was no leader per se. The most stressful job was puller.

[@ocsanchez522ify]

Tanks also didn't pull in FFXI. Also Warriors became more DPS than tanks in late game FFXI. Late game, ninjas and paladins take over the role.

[@pocketfluffal2134]

I remember those moments where the puller came running back with 2 mobs instead of 1 and the rest of the party is just standing there like "you fucked up, didn't you? Get ready with those 2 hour cooldowns boys"

[@raikohzx4323]

As someone who tanks, I remember on my first account back in 2017 that I got up to The Chrysalis as a noob Paladin that had no idea you were supposed to tank the meteors since the mechanic sorta came out of nowhere. After two wipes because of my foolishness, the other tank flipped out in chat and then threw a vote kick.. on one of the healers by accident. Once I knew the mechanic, we passed the very next time. It's not hard, it just means knowing what has to be done and there's a couple cases where the devs really need more conveyance, like what a red marker with orbs means for tank stacks.

[@TechneMakre]

did the dismiss go through? i can only imagine the 'wait wtf did i do?????' if so xD

[@its_foi]

Yes, communication is always available on chat, but not by throwing rage out of nothing. There should always be at least a person knows what to do, if not, learnt it by wipe. “Live, die, and know.” 😂For future ref if you get Nabriales in Chrysalis again, during when he pulls out the rift before meteor phase, we can pop OGCDs buff like Rampart, Sentinel/Vengeance/Nebula/Shadow Wall, Shelton, or healers’ regen aoe, because once you get in meteor phase, the duration of the buff doubled or tripled! It’s very broken when you are a paladin and you popped Hallowed Ground. No damage taken when soak meteors at all. 😂😂😂

[@Paien75]

Years ago I watched an episode of Unchained with you and Bok, and something you said inspired me to just say “fuck it” and go for it. The worst thing that happens is you mess up and learn from it.

[@Sleepy_Bob]

My personal issue is I just have anxiety in general, and not wanting to mess up and screw up a run for other people sets it off. I don't wanna be responsible for people having a bad time or being angry. I would just DPS, but all my friends are DPS and I panic heal and waste MP whenever I go that route. 💀

[@turbo6328]

I have it too, so I learn the fights by heart, I know where and when to go, what I'm supposed to mitigate and when I can greed positionals, the beauty of ff fights is that you need to learn the dance, and once you do, it all flows together, that's how I got my ultimate clears

[@Sleepy_Bob]

@@turbo6328 I generally notice if I'm 1) with a group of friends rather than strangers, I'm not as nervous. 2) If it's a dungeon, trial, raid, etc. that I've done before at least some, I don't have it as bad either. So maybe if I'm gonna queue for something specific, I could look it up beforehand.

[@inazumatan7050]

If any DPS dies in any dungeon, it’s 99% of the time their own fault.

[@Jethro0815]

"Why I play tank? Because nobody else in the grp wanted to." - Every tank main ever-

[@SteadyTokai]

Been doing tank in come capacity since the days of stance dancing back in HW. Xeno opened my eyes to that and it made a new level of enjoyment that I loved and still do from time to time. I always make it a note to help all the new tanks who talk to me. It makes my experience with the game better in that regard.

[@DioDiablo702]

I'm going through my tank anxiety phase as I learned to tank on dark Knight. I've never tanked before so it's really a new world for me, but I cannot wait to get to a point where I can confidently lead the team to success.

[@randomcanadian6298]

Honestly, find some people that are willing to be chill when you're learning and you can kick tanxiety real quick. I personally had my first real tanking experience as a GNB, getting thrown into Pharos Sirius normal. The dungeon itself is already not particularly forgiving to newer players which I was at the time, but I barely knew how to tank. I was guilty of the "didn't read the tooltips" skill issue. I was lucky because I actually had some chill mentors from the Novice Network that I'd queued with that were super supportive, actually teaching me, and wanted to stick out the dungeon even when I offered to leave so they could get a competent tank backfill or just leave altogether without penalty. This helped me build a "we ball" mindset for tanking and now I'm perfectly comfortable with tanking in everything but Ultimates and even then I'm considering learning to tank an Ulti.

[@bighatastrea]

I think Aurum Vale is the best example and imo the game is to blame for this. There's literally no indicator that tells you you have to eat these fruits, or when you have to eat them (at two stacks). Battle content is stressful even when the fight is easy, combat music kicking in activates monke brain. As an inexperienced player you might not even see the stack, don't see the fruits, don't know they're related. I've seen so many people mess up in this dungeon, from healers just standing there and dying or tanks refusing to eat the fruits even when you write it in chat. There were SO DAMN MANY.

[@randomcanadian6298]

@@bighatastrea I hate Aurum Vale in general. It's the worst dungeon in the game for both healers and tanks. I straight up let a DPS die to the fruit cleansable DoT when they said "nah" in chat to eating the fruit when the boss was done and they never ate one and just rezzing them instead of wasting my time healing them through it.

[@hoisoynono]

if they say something like that and aren't prepared to second wind bloodbath through it that's completely on them​@@randomcanadian6298

[@Devimonking]

For me the only reason I got over my tank anxiety was doing Amdapor Keep and I had a white mage tired of me doing small pulls told me to just get everything. And I was like if we wipe it's their fault so I pulled everything up to the last boss room. I had a blast tanking all that and saw that it there was nothing to worry about just trust the healer and if we wipe well fuk it

[@ShutterSnapped]

I realized for me I was so jaded at seeing how a lot of the WoW community treated healers and tanks that avoided tanking and healing because of an association with just getting absolutely battered by random people. Mind you, this is specifically seeing people getting the brunt of slurs, swears, and all caps freak outs in over the 7 years I've played. I finally decided to try it out in FFXIV to overcome that and have gotten over that hurdle and realized a very interesting thing, at least for FFXIV. Tanking and Healing is 95% easier than I thought and I love it. For my own personal experience, the FFXIV community in particular helped me overcome that but I was also surprised to see how quickly the switch flipped. It was literally in a matter of days for me realizing "Huh, this is actually great."

[@MangyPL]

Their is literally a subbreddit for people to blast​ bad runs and name and shame others. Game is juwt as toxic as WOW. Even worse since people are so passive aggressive about it. @ShutterSnapped

[@melon1158]

as someone how overcome his tank anxiety just a week ago, i agree it exist and its a problem for us. and the 2 good advices i can give to someone with tank anxiety is first, play with a group of friends. they know what your situation is and they'll go easy on you (maybe). second advice is begin with an easy tank on an easy fight. i started as an OT PLD on P9S with BIS gear and it show you that its not that hard and you'll lean it really fast.

[@magguthemachine4895]

EXCELLENT VIDEO MY LIEGE

[@megataizack4531]

Wow..I'm speechless to watch this after yesterday resub and playing DRK after long break. One thing that I appreciate the dev is the trust system that can be used as a practice to combat tank anxiety. Well, different people play different style of tank and as a tank we don't need to fear it.

[@user-lk9mk9md9d]

Two words that represent tank anxiety is mitigation and mitigation

[@SuntanAlbino]

That unspoken expectation that the tank just knows what to do is definitely a thing but I found it to be super helpful to just say to people "Hey first time tanking this" which seems to immediately remove all levels of assumption because now they know you're trying to learn. To which I can admit that I'll never first try something as tank or healer until I've done it at least once as DPS so I'll have SOME level of familiarity with the content.

[@light6713]

Yeah or say I don't remember the mechanics for this fight cause I haven't done in a while, generally people will cut you some slack

[@kimlee6643]

Being a tank with the stance on and hitting aoes only when there's more than one dude around will grant any player literally hundreds of recommendations from ARR to EW. The bar is that low. That's why they call it "anxiety", the people affected are perceiving the circumstances of the game improperly. Meanwhile, there's one-button-people with balls of steel that don't care what you think. Perfectly encapsulates life.

[@sandina14]

I've actually recently sort of gotten over my tanxiety. I lit just said 'fuck it, we ball' and started queueing up for tank in need roles. It's honestly fun !

[@ARCWolf7]

For me, I get more anxious on re-clears. I sometimes feel like I don't know the fight well enough or can't do it well enough to join re-clears and farm parties.

[@Triscraft]

I had tank anxiety from coming from WoW... Duty Support helped loads..it helped me learn the dungeon routes. and doing it with npcs gave me the knowledge like "If I can do this pull with alphinaud healing me, Then surely it will be fine with an actual player" infact having alphinaud heal me even helped teach me how to manage my mititgations cause you know hes not gonna give you a single heal for like the first 30 seconds of each pull xD going into alliance raids i just went in the first few times with the mindset of "Okay im gonna be a blue dps until I cant".. you can watch how other tanks do the bosses and their posistioning and just copy them next time. Ive been practicing doing the "Harder" wall to wall pulls.. but I just pre-warn my group "This is gonna be a big pull and im probably gonna get my ass handed too me" and generally they're good about it. when you start pushing your limits you better understand what you can and cant handle and that reduces your anxiety cause you get the knowledge "Well this is only 1 pack.. and i can tank 3-5 if i wanted". and work your way up to your limit more consistantly without as much fear

[@hockey1973]

When I first got into tanking waaay back in the day of LOTRO I had no idea about the tank being "responsible" or anything like that. I just liked the way my Guardian looked when he hit people with his shield. . . I learned about the role itself as I leveled the class.

[@Leon-yv3tg]

I learnt a new term today after watching this- Super sprout

[@tirsom]

It is like this and it has always been like this, only in animes the magician or the healer are the leaders of the groups, but in the mmo it is the tank, because we are the ones who lead the group, and we place the pull where and how We want, old age is because there are people who do not like to learn the mechanics of dungeons, tremendous video friend xenos

[@ShadyLurker16]

It's a class in a video game bud, you're not special. Calm down.

[@obliviouschipmunk6539]

One of the things that made me nervous about tanking was ironically the early dungeons (when more of them hadn't been cleaned up and optimized yet). I didn't know my way around and people would get frustrated with me because I would go the wrong way multiple times or forgot to get keys or something.

[@alexmaganda5827]

i had some tank anxiety at first i started as drg and then picked up gladiator this was back in sb btw where tanking was a bit more challenging bc you could actually loose enmity back then but i watched a guide on yt and just tried it and realized its not that bad so i totally get ppl who have it but i always tell others its rlly simple and not that deep and i have been a main warrior ever since then

[@lemonc5184]

I got tank anxiety since i played solo on garuda server as sprouts, idk when im gonna try tanking, probably never or one day hopefully

[@xviii5780]

I recommend blasting danheim skapanir if you're anxious about anything

[@s1mp_licity38]

I started my ff journey as a warrior. Knowing full well that i would be tanking from day 1. I learned every encounter I've done to this point tanking entirely blind. I never looked up rotations, i never looked up pull routes and layouts. I just learned. It was so much fun and everybody was always nice for the most part. I never really made major mistakes, but i did start pulling individual packs just because i didn't understand. By the end of ARR, i was pulling 3 to 4 packs working entirely around my healer and their mana. Obviously my experience went be everyone's, but i feel like most of my ability came from just jumping into it head on and trying to get better at it. I recently got my partner into the game and after trying a couple classes at the beginning she decided on gladiator, so now she is jumping into tanking from day one. I really think it's the way to go about it. Now healing stresses me out, so i definitely understand that, but I'm considering starting to heal for my group of friends i roped in to playing since none of them want to, so ill be jumping head first into healing as well and just learn along the way

[@Sarkkoth]

Being a tank when you're a sprout though is probably the least stressful time. I would just tell people at the beginning that I was new and usually people were very helpful and understanding. It wasn't until I lost that sprite icon that I felt I really had to know my stuff.

[@redgeoblaze3752]

Yeah, It's hard to be bad at tanking, but good at leveling. I've got three tanks at level 90, and the last one at level 60, but I still don't know what I'm doing most of the time. I think I'm fine at dungeons, but the healers might also just be working double-time to keep me alive.

[@mickel1470]

Same I signed up to play dark knight near the end of Heavensward and everyone was so kind, lol. Someone even put me on to using flash when they saw me shield lobbing every mob in a group target taunts early on as glad Leveling with your group and going with the flow will avoid stress and unpleasantness in most encounters

[@futurepastnow]

It's ez mode for solo duties, too. Mitigations cover a multitude of sins and you have the "I need to live 5 more seconds" button to fall back on

[@fraserfarmer1557]

When I started FFXIV, I chose to play marauder because I thought, "I never play characters with axes, maybe I should try it." Five years later, several job changes, all jobs max level etc., I still go to warrior as my main job. I had no idea about the tank/healer/DPS trifecta when I started, I'd heard of it but I didn't really understand, so naturally, I had a TON of tank anxiety with just normal easy dungeons in the beginning. I still remember my first time queuing into Aurum Vale - a SCH emoted '[player name] expresses their utter disappointment,' and not knowing any better I tried to be all like 'hi! I'm new here!' ofc the first pull I die and we wipe and the healer left. That stuck with me hard, and for the rest of the MSQ I just solo unsynced most everything because the MSQ exp totally over levels you. Well, long story short, I'm tanking savage now, have done some ultimate prog as tank, and I love it. Now I'm just like, fuck tank anxiety! I think for me what helped me overcome it was seeing a lot of really bad tanks when I mainly played DPS. It was kinda like, hey, we all suck sometimes, and it's ok.

[@onetruealice2198]

I bounce between DRK and AST a lot. I haven't touched the current Savage or Extreme content but just running dailies, I find running healer more stressful. Reguarles of if your party has a new or experienced tank

[@remellesawyers7605]

I found healing more stressful then tanking too

[@brycemoose7026]

I Really only get anxious when tanking group deep dungeons cause if fuck up a mob pull it's over

[@lostvii5594]

I got over my tank anxiety (which lasted all the way to EW) upon first time tanking in savage. Suddenly all anxiety i had vanished that same day.

[@ilike2nap]

I usually get tank anxiety after a long period of only playing dps. As of now I’ve only tanked once since I completed the Endwalker main story

[@moonlitfoxling8448]

I've played as a tank since I first started, but I've never had tank anxiety lol. I do have anxiety when starting a new class, but I just need practice

[@crimsonbok]

I started as a Marauder, did Smith's training, went into dungeons fine. Later I found out I doing it wrong when I queued as a dps and saw the tank doing wall to wall pulls. Now I just go in and worry about it after I die.

[@Candrenlol]

I’m currently overcoming not only tank anxiety in FFXIV but also PTSD from my really bad statics from when Abyssos and Anabaseois tiers were considered current content (No Echo). I am currently in 2 DSR statics as a Main Warrior tank and I’ve had both of them told me that not only am I doing really good at tanking but they are kinda shocked that I never cleared an Ultimate let alone a full Savage Tier (when it’s considered current content) There is a possibility that I will be clearing DSR within a couple of weeks from now and getting my first legend title along with my first ultimate axe.

[@Kyolt_tsu]

I want to learn tank, but I decided to pick up gunbreaker, so the moment I picked it up I got flashbanged with all of the new abilities, I definitely need to start from a lvl one take 😅

[@Xemvii]

We always suggest starting from a lvl 1 job instead of jumping into something like SGE or GNB, cause of the different style in roles on top of a skill set up to 60-70 you've not had practice with will confuse the ever living f out of you if you didnt at least level a warrior or whm first

[@rickmel09]

tbf tanks are basically the same as melee but replacing the DPS cooldowns with defensive ones got your 2-part aoe combo, 3-part ST combo, aoe gage spender, ST gage spender, your movement skill and 1 or 2 offensive off-gcd

[@FinalFrankie]

GNB isn’t super hard, especially if you’re used to DPS. It’s fast and fun! Overwhelming at first but if you watch a vid or two you’ll get it pretty quick. Source: I’m a baby tank who only played GNB for ages and gets bored playing the other tanks.

[@samwilkinson9309]

Tbf FF14 was my first MMO where I actually reached group content (I used to play free ones on a netbook until I reached the part of the game where it couldn't handle the game) So it makes sense having tank anxiety and I used to die and it was because I didn't level my gear because I was levelling tank to level it not to want to play it not thinking about the fact that was making it harder for me and the healer, but it did teach me to mit and it was stone vigil when I finally geared and and I had so much fun with that dungeon onward once I did. Now have mellee anxiety because I can't tell when I have successfully done a positional, like when it snap shots and I have healer anxiety because sure tanks have responsibility, but I can't mis click a mit on the wrong person very easily and it's not as drastic as doing so with a heal most of the time, sure I could in DSR now but I've played tank long enough that I'm familiar with taht stuff now and it's also only 1 skill that's targeted for others (I play controller but mit other people with F2-F8)

[@DoktorWieg]

Before Heavensward, the mere idea of tanking (or worst, healing) was so alien to me that I never bothered even unlocking Gladiator and Marauder. I couldn't see myself taking the responsibility of holding on enemies for my friends or randoms to smack around till they died. Then again, tanking back in ARR was a whole different beast than what tanking is nowadays. Then the trailer for Heavensward dropped and the reveal of the Dark Knight as a new job! I was excited! ... then they confirmed it was a tanking job... I was less excited. At the time, I had stopped playing FFXIV but my love for the Dark Knight job in other games made me resub and play again, starting from scratch as my friends had moved to another server. During that time, I asked them to teach me tanking as I was going to play Dark Knight. I was dead set on that idea. And yes, tanking anxiety kicked in. I'd often only tank with friends at first or queue the leveling roulette with a friend as my healer to avoid having to deal with a random healer who'd get pissed at me for tanking badly. HW dropped and by then, I had gotten... competent. Not great but I knew how to check for enemy aggro, how to pull them back into the fold if they tried to run to an ally. Dark Knight at the time wasn't easy either with having to manage both their tank stance, their enmity combos (yes, you had specific moves to generate enmity) and Dark Arts which ate up your MP like nobody's business. It was a complicated job... but again, I loved the esthetics of it (my first real FF being FF4 so Cecil Harvey as a Dark Knight was my favorite character) so I toughed it out. By the end of HW, I had also started to heal because I liked the card mechanics of the Astrologian (and put Arrows on Monks and watch them eat up their TP!) and while I didn't dip often into it, healing anxiety was also a thing. By mid Stormblood, my tanking anxiety was gone. Good tanking habits had made it so I knew what to look for, how to react. I also standardized my hotkeys so that my brain could simply move from one job to the other without much adjustment, like having my tanks and melee jobs all having a stun on my "5" key for example. I'd still prefer DPS overall (hur dur, big numbers, me likey!) as a more relaxed way to play the game as you dying was more of a personal impact, unlike a tank or healer being downed. I still preferred Dark Knight and Astrologian as my go to tanking and healer jobs. Shadowbringers dropped and the featured job (besides GNB) was the Dark Knight... so of course I would use DRK for the MSQ. It was the first time I went in dungeons blind that I had never done as a DPS beforehand. And by now, tanking had gotten quite easier. In fact, I sometimes still miss the more complex mechanics from older expacs (to a degree) but I wouldn't wish them on a new player starting out. Tanking is far more casual now and has become one of my favorite role to play since ShB. All in all, this is only to say that there are only a few ways to overcome tanking (and healing) anxiety : - Practice and learn your buttons, what they do and how to pace your CDs until you can fully focus on the fight without needing to look for them and that naturally comes with time - Setup your keys or buttons in a familiar way between jobs so you can naturally react even while playing another job. - Understand that failure happens and 'most' people will be understanding. The toxic players aren't the majority (unless you're doing Savage / Ultimate with randos) and they can be dismissed either during or after the instance anyway. - Accept feedback as long as it is constructive, don't "You don't pay my sub" people who seem to genuinely give good advice. You might well end up learning something you didn't know or even befriend someone in the process. - Let people know when you're unfamiliar with a certain type of content or new to it. You'd be surprised how many understand what you've been through and go easier on you. Heck, they might even give you hints on what's to come or what to do if you don't pick up on a mechanic.

[@Lunarowl]

Just my personal opinion on this: (on 'learning from your mistake bit') (1) Knowing that there is a mistake/took place; (2) Who made the mistake; and (3) Whether the mistake is something that need to be learnt from. Most of the time, (1) is the most obvious thing to spot. But (2) is what I find, from my own experience, that not everyone can see (sometimes ppl can falsely accuse or assign the blame on something that they don't even know - unless you check the actual log for details). As for (3), well depends on whether the person who made the mistake cared enough about it to even want to learn from it. If yes, good for them, if no, then yeah, they're never going to learn from their mistakes (heck, they may not even know that they are the one who made the mistake too, haha).

[@Aurora_veil1580]

I have played tank enough to fully level paladin and get a few levels on others too but I still feel tank anxiety when I hop back into it. It's funny to me because I am also a healer main yet never really have nearly as much anxiety when healing. Something about setting the pace of a dungeon and trying your best to sit still around bosses exhausts me and scares me lol.

[@massimo11602]

So I started when AAR released and picked Paladin as my first job. Been a Paladin main since day one. I remember when the only AoE threat was “Flash” and your 2 and 3 GCD’s were the threat generators. I don’t think it’s nearly as stressful now.

[@jackpots712]

Honestly dungeon tanking is whatever. I feel most pressure in savages and ultimates e.g. a DPS dies in p6 and p7 it's recoverable. If tank dies then gg.

[@MangyPL]

Harder to die tho compared to dps for most mechs tho

[@rickmel09]

as long as you press cooldowns on a buster, you're probably not gonna die before the whole raid is already dead

[@terokai7880]

A big part of my tank anxiety is that i dont remember every dungeon and its mechanics so add to that people wanting me to wall to wall and its just a miserable experience. Ive been on break from the game because of tank anxiety and bleed through from irl anxiety.

[@guiltygamerxrd]

This video cured my tank anxiety. I'm gonna tank in DT... after I level Dancer because that's forever my main.

[@Asako_Gaming]

I remember when I started ARR back in 14 I'd never played an MMO but I knew I wanted to be a healer so I played WHM and healed until level cap. The only DPS job I enjoyed was Monk so I decided to give Tanking a go so I tried both WAR and PLD in random duties and ended up loving it. Dropped healing as a main and am now a Tank main, it's so easy [even easier now, but I do miss ARR trying to maintain aggro]. It's not until you actually get in and start rumbling and seeing how it feels that you actually understand how good it is. It seems like there is a lot to do but it's literally just point boss N, dodge aoes, move as little as possible and 123. Biggest thing new tanks need to learn is that it's the trash that hit harder than the bosses and that's what you use mitigation on. See too many tanks not using mit or saving it for the bosses as you'd expect thats where the damage is.

[@Yesnaught]

You can only really lose control of mits in a dungeon if you're new and doing a wall to wall. In which case, simply do not wall to wall, no matter how hard someone insists. You're in charge, and that cuts both ways.

[@fzaoo]

Thats a great article, as a sprout (even with over 1000 hours of gameplay) I just started playing tanks this month, I have almost all dps and healers at 80 (all handleveled) and i was worried about tanking. Then, one day i just said, fuck it, i'm doing it; And it's been fun, it's a new experience and, to be honest, my fear was justified. You are the guy, you are the one responsible for things, you make the decisions. And when you die, you feel way worse and embarassed then when playing other roles, that's a fact.

[@billy65bob]

Tanking and Healing is just scary because you've never done it. Best way of getting over it is to just go YOLO and queue for a roulette in the role. Some initial discomfort aside (e.g. it feels really weird to play Tank and lead the group), you'll quickly realise you're tense and nervous over nothing. You're terrified of what in effect amounts to no more than a paper tiger.

[@billy65bob]

If you're nervous, just drop an [I'm inexperienced] in chat, and you'll get all the commendations at the end.

[@thyCarrot]

I need this for healer Started with Sage so its 🥶

[@HyouVizer]

Sage is absolute garbage when leveling dungeons, especially ARR ones. Their kit is so undercooked to the other 3 healers when level synced there its insane.

[@KaeyinSe]

I still have Tanxiety up to this day, it may seem silly to others bcs it's just a matter of courage and bravery to keep learning. But i've grown from anti social environment and i've become quite silent sometimes, no friends either to play or even scared to ask, even there's 3 times i tried to tank (even though i told them this is my first time to do tanking) and they don't give a shit bcs they just look at me there's no sprout on top of my name, i've been judged really harshly and until now never want to touch the job anymore bcs of severe ptsd they gave it to me. And also i played in controller and i have slow response sometimes

[@ShadyLurker16]

"severe ptsd"...soft generation

[@KaeyinSe]

@@ShadyLurker16 yeah well thing is i'm not from this generations, i've been always told to never dictate your emotions and never be heartless to people, even though they're trash like you probably that assuming that i'm from soft generation, severe ptsd comes from a lot of things and you probably never experience such thing

[@KindredEmotions]

The start of an expansion is the best time to revisit tanking, imo. No one knows the dungeons or raids yet so there is no established expectation of skill level or wall to wall pulling. You can take your time because everyone is taking in all the new content, not worrying about the speed of the run.

[@red5robb1]

i was scared to tank when i decided i wanted to try it...i ended up loving it and try to wall to wall as much as i can even in ARR dungeons...i ask my healers if they are ok with that first of course

[@Scribby87]

Seeds need fertilizer to grow into Sprouts. Sprouts are just players that have been through the "shit" to understand the basics.

[@Xerdff14]

Great video but I don't know if I should listen to a rank 2 player opinion... I will wait for the rank 1 to speak on this matter.

[@TeckTheBlooded]

The only reason I havent bothered with Tanking, as a Healer main, is playing on controller and having to deal with grabbing enmity on specific enemies by rapidly pressing left or right dpad and losing 2 rotations on GCD from the process.

[@ghosttkeeper]

I have tank anxiety myself. It can be difficult to understand when you don't have an anxiety disorder yourself or don't really experience anxiety in general (I have been diagnosed with social anxiety disorder), but personally for me anxiety = not being able to trust myself even if I logically know I am doing a good job and I fear that people will judge me if I don't do well. When I tank, I worry about how to use my mitigations, if I missed any enemies during pulls, which way to go, if I do something wrong will people get mad at me etc. I acknowledge that how I'm feeling and thinking is irrational and overly dramatic, and that in reality it's not serious at all and my world won't end from making one mistake.. But alas, it only helps for a very short time. The only thing that has helped me with my anxiety has been medication to treat the physical symptoms of it (hands shaking, cold sweat, heart beating so loud I can hear and feel it, tense muscles etc). Having tank anxiety (and anxiety in general) might seem dramatic to others, but honestly it's an internal struggle that you likely won't understand if you haven't gone through it yourself. And even then, anxiety works in different ways for different people. For some tanking enough times helps, for others it won't. I love to tank and play with other people, that's why I haven't given up even though my anxiety tries to get in the way. And funnily enough I am a healer main, which doesn't make sense since it's also a responsibility heavy job, but somehow it feels better since I have more control over the situation in general + I have come to find out I perform best when shit hits the fan so to speak. I was anxious about healing in the beginning too, but I fell in love with astrologian and the rest is history. I just hope that my tank anxiety will go away too with time. And to my fellow anxious people in here, you're not alone. Take one step at a time.

[@Yokai_Yuri]

TBh tank anxiety is more reserved to extreme fights and beyond. Anyone can copy the style of a tank and try to replicate it in dungeons to do moderately good, or just be safe and pull slowly and don't care about someone rushing you.

[@cjwill94]

Sir Pomp might be coming back to give some tank love. Hostile Healers/Aggressive Supports, we’re here to die for you!

[@bighatastrea]

I had this in other MMOs because I was too lazy to read the skills and actually get into the mindset, and, the biggest issue: You'd only be able to play this one specific class. I'm more of a close DPS and caster fan, so in most games I end up playing witches with big hats. I know the hardcore MMO people complain about FF14 being too easy-going, but I LOVE that a lot and it took my tanxiety away. First time I ever tried playing something like a paladin and having a blast, to the point I even did it in the easier savage raids. Honestly, as a caster fan who refuses to play Summoner because I love Black Mage aesthetics, tank felt much easier and less stressful

[@user-nl9gs4fk4j]

Tank anxiety is defo real, i had it when first starting and went away only years later when i played dps roles

[@JayNakazato]

Got over mine using Duty Support/Trust. When I got to the point I felt like I was ready I would tell "people I normally Tank in DS or Trust so bare with me." Now I don't say anything. I go in and just do the best I can.

[@Kiobao]

I have anxiety and have had tank anxiety but never really in dungeons. Mostly just raids. Ill do alliance raids sometimes as them but i dont do savage or normal raids as a tank. Mostly due to me infrequently playing and not knowing mechanics so i dont want to be a burden by not knowing. So ill just play dps.

[@AnteikuNation]

Funny enough FFXIV was my first mmo back in 2013. I mained dragoon until I was like man I really love the Paladin look and man Warrior seems really cool. Cool factor pushed me to break into tanking. Felt like a champ being able to break the ice on the role. Now that we have DK and GNB I love it even more. It can be stressful at times but yeah it’s just a game and you’re gonna mess up. Have to learn along the way. Unless you’re a blessed player who is perfect at everything the first time.

[@Indy2109]

This is my first ever mmo, only had one complaint about my tanking and it wasn’t fully a tank issue more so a group understanding issue, I can’t help you if you stand in the red lines

[@AsatsuyaH]

I have Tank Anxiety, but it only exists in dungeons. Something about running through the dungeon itself makes me anxious. Never tanked in any game and I jumped into savage as a tank without any issue. But the leveling process stressed me LOL

[@GonzoHattori]

I had tank anxiety for a LONG time. I even leveled my tanks to 60 though trusts. Then i took a long ass break from the game, came back and insta-qued as drk and never looked back. As bad as i think i am sometimes, I'm one of the better tanks that I've played with. Tank stance on, I know my basic rotos and i use mitigation. Face the boss north, don't die. Done, tank role fulfilled. But it took me a long time so i feel it, it can be daunting. But it really isn't that big of a deal. But healing scares the Light out of me.

[@knightofstar]

Is healer anxiety a thing? I feel more comfortable tanking than healing lol

[@HyouVizer]

yep, some being new to healing role, not knowing how to manage their MP correctly. still spamming Cure 1 when they have Cure 2/Solace after LV60+ like dumbshit with tank HP at full. Not knowing how to heal wall to wall pulls despite being a high level healer. Finally, not knowing what Esuna does, much less some healers even having it on their hotbar well into endgame.

[@ferryfernandus1423]

i started tanking during 6.1 after like 5-6 months starting the game. as GNB 1st tank job (which is clueless to me) thrown into dusk vigil hard and i mentioned its my first time and i dont know shit about enmity and turning on stance. got into first boss and was a hectic shit because the boss did ignore provoke and bum rush into the dps. nobody died yet i got dismissed. since then i learned the tank 101 and even learnt the rotations etc. now im savage raiding and stuff that can flex into tank if needed.

[@carlosvargas4248]

There is some sort of expectation to tanks but just like every other job!. let me tell you something, Healers have the most stressful job! lol and more if you are pronging, there is so much mental power on addressing peoples mess up to continue the pronging.

[@jet44444]

I can tank alliance raids, normal raids and trials but not 4 mans. I feel like I’m too squishy, I mitigate properly but it still makes me feel bad for the healer.

[@kingrushy4533]

I started as a tank, I still remember being in a dungeon and someone had to explain to me what tank stance was😂. They told me to not forget to turn it on and I’m like “uhhh what’s that”😂

[@jmw10891]

I was eager to play tank when i started. Feels good to take the boss head on, it feels more immersive. Tanks mains ❤

[@mercurygreaves1822]

I feel like a lot of tank anxiety comes from pre-conceived notions from tanking in other MMOs where it can be a genuinely hard and stressful job, especially if you're new. Maintaining aggro is more difficult, you're expected to know dungeon pathing/shortcuts (and dungeons aren't hallways), and pulling too much can actually kill you. Players in said other MMOs can also be very trigger happy over kicking underperformers. Contrast that with FFXIV, where aggro is stupidly easy to maintain, you're basically invincible even if you pull the wall to wall (provided you mitigate properly and your healer has a pulse), and there's no pathing beyond a couple of ARR dungeons. Heck, by the time you're level 90, you're so defensive that you can run expert roulette with a tank and 3 DPS - no need for a healer. As a result, the "leader" role is also gone - no need for it when there's only one path forward. Even when mistakes happen, a competent healer or melee DPS can cover with healing, arm's length, and bloodbath. And even if you do wipe, there's no penalties beyond some armor damage and a 1 minute run back to where you were. In short, SE has remove nearly every barrier to tanking - the only solution to tank anxiety is to do what the article says and just start tanking. There's nothing left SE can do to make it easier other than make hallowed ground last 30 minutes. Do toxic players who yell at new tanks exist? Of course; that's just the reality in a game as big as FFXIV. But more often than not, FFXIV players are chill almost to a fault. Your party members are more likely to keep their mouth shut and not give you advice than they are to call you a slur. This unfortunately means that bad habits can perpetuate to endgame rather than get stomped out earlier. And this in turn makes tank anxiety a self fulfilling prophecy as players never improve as tanks nor never see good tanks - thus perpetuating the view of "tanking hard."

[@nofluid]

The thing is with tanxiety, I am aware playing tank is piss easy in this game, but I still can't get the idea of failing the group and being responsible for it out of my head so I just end up as a dps and healer before trying it as a tank

[@crowevil4658]

sic = used in brackets after a copied or quoted word that appears odd or erroneous to show that the word is quoted exactly as it stands in the original sic is abbreviation for 'sic erat scriptum' which is Latin for 'thus it had been written'

[@its_foi]

When I’m a tank in alliance raid or extremes, I like to be OT just to be standby and help the MT who is new. 😭 I still make mistakes like not centering the boss, but I always learn individual’s fight what to do, which raid-wide aoe and tankbusters are and if a member needs more protection to certain direct cast. It sounds braindead to tank, but it’s not.

[@ultrAslan50]

i am playing tank as main and for me tanking is waaay much easier than healing. i have huge respect for healers in FFXIV

[@tetrahedron_in_space]

I love tanking in FFXIV and prefer to main-tank every encounter. I've been playing FFXIV since 2019 but only started raiding in Endwalker. I've cleared every EX fight, all 12 savage encounters, and my friends and I are almost done progging the newest criterion savage encounter. I've played in statics, played with IRL friends, and made friends in PF, and the universal reason I hear for why people have tank anxiety or don't want to tank is because they came from WoW and have seen tank after tank be berated over there. I played WoW from roughly 2009 through 2017, and I won't lie, coming to FFXIV I was a little hesitant to play a tank initially, but I found a way to move past that and now I love tanking more than anything. I was recently hanging out with a friend on Discord and he was streaming himself spamming dungeons to level an alt in WoW, and he was vote-kicked twice over the course of our 2 hour call, in LEVELING DUNGEONS, for the stupidest shit. One guy got knocked back into a group of adds on a lower floor, then blamed the tank for him dying even though his death was instant because of how many adds he accidentally pulled. If you've been conditioned to think that your existence in a group can be snuffed out for the smallest mistakes from another game, especially in content that isn't even serious, then of course you're going to have some tank anxiety if you even decide to tank yourself.

[@michealsoto6722]

to me in dungions because of 3rd party tools act ( advance combat tracker) which are nerds watching your damage. every class can have anxiety if your in a group full of strangers. guild/friends are best. with tank your the speed of the dungion so with that comes wall to wall pulls= manage your cool downs agaist a boss comes positioning. healer is harder must know the content machenics and do damage. dps know a rotation and dont die. but with the expansion known as EW ( end walker) there is no more anxiety its called duty support play anything at your own paste. its comes in handy its basically the best tutorial worth trying the first 2 bosses of any dungion. before trying with people.

[@brianreck5971]

How do you tank in a duty? Spam AOEs on trash, use defensives on tank busters.

[@elsdodo]

the real struggle is having the greatsword job being locked behind a tank class. I would have never started tanking if the badass cool looking knight with the big ass sword didn't happen to be a tank. I'd still prefer if it was just a dps.

[@ricky_pigeon]

Force yourself to overcome it. Anyone can tank. You can stand in AOE and nobody will even notice if you screwed up. It's easy.

[@ValkyrieTiara]

Me: *watching youtube and didn't notice I ate an AoE* Me: "I was, uh.... keeping the boss in position for the DPS. Tactical sacrifice."

[@HyouVizer]

lmao the healer will notice when tank HP spiked from alive to dead when taking 2-3 aoes at once

[@ricky_pigeon]

@@HyouVizerIf you've watch Xeno for a while, you'll know when he suggests something in the game, he says "what i want and what is good for the game". the ability to think of others experience than his own. Not everyone is good at this as your example. When someone picks up a Tank job they typically start at low level and AoE does no damage and debuff markers don't apply. The game is built with this in mind and gives you plenty of time to learn. In later game AoE that would kill a DPS won't kill a tank so in that respect its quite forgiving if you make the mistake once, to help you not make it again. DPS typically reflect on that when they lay dead on the floor and tank can get away with that kind of mistake and hope nobody notices and even then they'll have another tank to back them up in trials/raids.

[@rickmel09]

@@HyouVizer aint no aoes killing a tank even tank busters don't kill tanks outside of savage and ultimate

[@HyouVizer]

@@rickmel09 lmfao no. They do in leveling dungeons with undergeared tanks. Example; Aurum Vale, the 2 Malboros before final boss have line aoe Vine Probe, that one shots tanks who dont dodge it. You're use to casual end game content that does low damage.

[@lazyyfox7914]

I never had tank anxiety till p10s

[@Aruru_XIV]

If they get mad it will be more entertainment for us, M'liege! 😤

[@K1LLW1N]

When you accept that you are the main character as the Tank, all that anxiety melts away. xD

[@lievaordiea389]

i wish this was overdramatised lol. i have the WORST rng in my tanking parties. the dps seemingly have some type of extra sprint which makes them go ahead of me every time. not an issue as i always grab them but it makes me FULLY aware im slower than i should. plus when i see my health dropping despite my mits im again reminded im clearly doing something wrong. plus the aoes. i stg as a monk in a normal dungeon i do not get so many aoes under my feet. as a tank theyre there all the time. clearly im missing something. thank god for duty support :p least alph doesnt mind if i suck XD

[@besaidknight]

I had Tank Anxiety Back When Flash Was Still A Thing: No Flash, No Anxiety. (Anything Peels Enemies, It's Great)

[@HyouVizer]

god flash was terrible, did no damage, low aggro gain, easy to run out of mp using it. Just worked well with blm sleep aoe so can single target kill mobs and take no damage.

[@NalaLeaf]

Around the 6 min mark it got brought up about tanks who die and have to run back, and honestly I've had my fair share. I was trying to level an alt job a few weeks ago and a tank kept dying to the final boss of Malikah's Well and this one guy got mega toxic and booted the tank after their 2nd wipe. So it happens, people just sometimes cant read mechanics and have to be explained them and people can get really toxic about it. The tank told us he had just got into ffxiv after taking a break and kept apologizing but they still got toxic

[@thesoul777]

All you really need to help with tanking, especially as a new player, is watch a beginner tankign guide and a class leveling guide. As long as you know what your class does and what you should be doing in dungeons, that's all that matters. If you die to mechanics or whatever that you haven't seen before then no one can blame you since it's new stuff. Usually being a sprout lets you get away with making mistakes. People usually start crying more in higher level content where you are expected to have some level of experience. As long as you spread your mitigation between pulls and make you have agro then you're more than likely fine.

[@Skintarine]

I have tank anxiety because i have anxiety in general. Not necessarily because someone was toxic to me before. "Just balling" attitude is good towards toxic players but if you want to improve because u enjoy tanking, ask for advice. If you don't know what you messed up, ask. And there are multiple guides on keeping agro and good ui for tanking. Doing better builds confidence. First hand experience.

[@Wooninite]

I get more anxiety from healing. There is more responsibility imo.

[@GroovyDean]

Been a Tank main, for more than half my playtime, I can say a lot of times, those toxic people are just projecting. They do bad at mechanics, they blame tank for it. They got wipe, blame the tank. Well, at some point, I got tired of hearing that kind of shit, so everytime the party wipe, and i didn't die to the mech, i just carry on, finished the run. I can do this well on PLD and WAR. Even sync, these two job can run any dungeon, solo. Have no fear, bro. Tanking is the best job ever!

[@dusknerd_]

I been playing ffxiv since the HW era when allocating stat points was still a thing--didn't touch a single tank/healer till some months before Endwalker came out. And the first one I picked up was GNB/SGE cause they looked cool. I was NOT about to have anything to do with leading the party/keeping the party alone/tank stance/cleric stance or any other major responsibilities till I felt I was competent enough at the game to graduate from just hitting stuff (also being a controller player, learning super late in the game that the d-pad scrolls party members, kinda crucial for healer lol). And even when I did my first tank/healer quest, guess who took their lalafellin arse right back to Sastasha to work their way up learning a few of their skills at a time? This sucka right here. Yeah new tanks/healers make mistakes, but I've seen so many people complain about stuff like tanks not doing aoes, going whole dungeons without stance, healers doing the wrong heal button, all types of stuff...got me 1000000000% messed up if you thought that was gonna be me, I was NOT tryna get yelled at, blasted on social media or tempt ppl into rescuing me into aoes.

[@shaneh6707]

I feel people are scared to make mistakes, but thats how you learn. Just type "first time" and just go for it. If you die, you die.