Overcoming My Film Photography Struggles

Landscape photography with my Fuji GX617 panoramic film camera can feel difficult, at times. It can alaso be a joy. On this occasion, my photography was difficult and frustrating, but I learned a lot and in the end I came away some great images. The film used was Ilford Delta 100. 10% off your first Squarespace website or domain: www.squarespac...
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[@TheJoshuaPeg]

I mean this in the best way possible, but I love it when you mess up Tom. Makes me feel better 😅 we all need frustrating days to make us appreciate the good moments more 👌🏼 As always, thanks for the work you’ve put into this video.

[@supertaufiqr]

Yes I feel that way too!

[@zwsplac]

I have to say, the first one was my favorite, even with the person and the debris. Glad we got to see some photos…I was nervous after that opening sequence!

[@DavidSenteno]

Agreed

[@F1lmtwit]

Don't forget that your orange filter is eating upwards of a stop into itself, so that means you were really only over exposing by upwards of 2 stops, which ilford 100 should easily handle. BTW - if you're developing yoru own B&W and you're made the mistake of shooting a roll of film and different ISO's, one way to technically fix this is develop in Rodinal at 1:100 one hour sit stand. The 1:100 chemical ratio and sit aspect of it allows the developer to develop each frame as intended and exhaust the chemicals so you don't under over or develop. You'll get more grain because the lack of agitation, but I'd also suggest doing 3 inversions every 20 minutes too to make sure you actually exhaust the chemicals, but also make sure you don't get any bromite streaks.

[@mattmoy2000]

You have a couple of technical errors here: 1) grain in Rodinal increases with agitation. 2) Rodinal cannot produce bromide drag because during development it doesn't release bromide. Stand dev will work for basically any exposure you happen to give your film, but under most circumstances it is not the optimal choice. Overexposure by two stops or more on Delta 100 can be rectified by developing in Perceptol for 9 minutes, according to the Ilford data sheet for the film - this is their suggestion for best results after accidentally overexposing.

[@ThomasHeatonPhoto]

Orange filter is 1.5 stops, but the 4 stop over exposure would have been referring to the previous images w/out filter 👍

[@mattdavis9986]

@@mattmoy2000 I’ve experienced bromide drag with Rollei Retro 400s and rodinal using a semi stand development on a couple of occasions

[@mattmoy2000]

@@mattdavis9986 That surprises me - are you sure it was true bromide drag and not surge marks (coming from the sprocket holes and often mistakenly called BrD)?

[@mattdavis9986]

@@mattmoy2000 this was on 120 so no sprocket holes. This was a few years ago and up until that point, I thought bromide drag was something that only shows up on 35mm around sprocket holes. I took to the internet with the scans of the un-inverted negatives and was told from many sources with many, many years more experience than me that my problem was bromide drag. I was surprised.

[@srodigital]

You have a hell of a set of pockets if you can adjust the ISO value on that light meter (LOL). It's usually a two handed operation for me. Might you have mixed up (somehow) adjusting the ISO value to the aperture value...they were both the same weren't they? ISO 16 and f/16. Lovely images and definitely a case of wish I was there. Thanks Thomas.

[@AmpedGaming404]

Thanks for the awesome video, Tom! Setting the wrong ISO on a light meter is a mistake just about all film photographers have made. If you ever shoot a roll at the wrong ISO, keep in mind you can always push/pull the film in development, which will increase/reduce the contrast (respectively). This has saved my skin a few times!

[@emanggitulah4319]

Especially with Ilford pushing the exposure... Classic grain

[@Mecholable]

Super happy to see you having success with that camera! I shot a lot of film using the sunny 16 method. At the beginning, I also took a meter reading to sort of "calibrate my eye" and get a better understanding of the method. Now when I see a weird meter reading compared to what the sunny 16 method would dictate me, I double check the settings. This allowed me to avoid quite a few mistakes.

[@kieran.stafford]

For me, the winner is at 13:00. Love the minimalism of the foreground together with the drama of the sky. Tom, I note that famed Landscape Photographer Albert Watson uses an umbrella to shield his cameras from the wind (actually he gets one of his assistants to hold the umbrella :)). This can be seen on the BBC series 'What do artists do all day S1E11'. Might be something worth considering.

[@glensumner3425]

I was thinking about that while watching this ;)

[@johngrahamcurry1641]

I particularly liked images 1, 3, 5 and 6. Good to see you using B&W film, a genre which is very hard to master, particularly when using the Fuji.

[@ThomasHeatonPhoto]

Thanks a lot. Glad it all worked out in the end 👍

[@jstuempges1985]

I really like the first image. It was my second favorite out of the bunch. My favorite was image 5.

[@creatorsjourney6286]

And this is why digital was invented! 😂😂 you like to suffer with all technology. I’m not sure why people like soft images for landscapes🤔 nonetheless, to each it’s own. As long as you find purpose in what you, keep on doing it. ✊🏼

[@jliparis2989]

You can't relax because you feel ridiculous about all the pollution you create by shooting film. I think you should do a video where you follow the consequences of what happens when you shoot film. The byproducts of the film being manufactured. And what happens to the chemicals used when processed. Or you could just use your digital gear. You have a wonderful Fuji GFX. Maybe get it out and use it instead of your Fuji or that absurd Hassy.

[@glennstephenson184]

Been watching for a few years now Thomas- had to let you go (un-sub) just lately as your negative tone started to do my head in- all that 'miserable weather'. If only life could be as 'miserable' as your outlook. Cheer up son!

[@emanuelschimpfossl5919]

Hello Thomas, I know part of your inspiration to buy a panorama camera has to do with nick carver. Can I ask why you did not get a shen hao?

[@MrLen93]

I would love to see what amazing pictures you would take with infrared B+W film! Quality content as usual, even when things don't go the way you want to.

[@kimgrantphotography]

Blessing in disguise indeed. The second film shots were beautiful

[@Night6436]

It's not a program. It's a KZbin video.

[@RauriBarron]

Thomas, GREAT story telling throughout this video, as a (small) vlogger I can see the effort and thought that went into making this video, really like how you put it all together. Shot #3 was great, so glad to see you got that light, love the shot at 13:00 too 🤩 Awesome video mate.

[@Roar.]

You should try shooting digital one day... ;-)

[@neilcole3406]

Almost expected you to start doing yoga on the beach!

[@ThatGuyInVegas]

It all worked out, and nice images!

[@tbillington]

I know you prefer simple empty scenes, but image 1 with the lone figure would be awesome blown up to wall print size.

[@bittired7159]

I can’t explain why, but whenever I get my tripod out, my stress levels go up exponentially. I much prefer hand held, or just leaning on something to steady myself. So with you vlogging while trying to get images on film, it’s no wonder you’re a bit overwhelmed. I think maybe you need to set aside a day or two of just enjoying getting images without bringing KZbin along with you.

[@broken12367]

Wednesday at last. Chill and watch Thomas.

[@vikki2376]

I reckon you couldn't relax because of the time deadline for the ferry. So hard to relax when there's a time pressure added. But the images are brilliant!

[@russellbaston974]

Yes, I wondered if he was going to miss the ferry, or if the light had become spectacular would he have just let it go and kept taking pictures.

[@terrylstarks]

I’m part Scottish and part Irish and have had an intense, burning desire to go home to the Isles for 20 years. Now after seeing this, more than ever!!!! It seems to be the ultimate test of any landscape photographer. Thanks Thomas!!!!!! Stay safe!!!!!

[@spidersj12]

Your final panorama shots were really impressive in the end.

[@AliasJimWirth]

The image at 13:00 is certainly a winner. I can't speak for you, but if it was me out there, I would feel that image makes up for most of if not all of the frustration of the day. Thanks for sharing the reality of a working photographer, Thomas.

[@jbairdexp]

I've been a bit tardy with leaving comments on your videos, but I have to say that I've really been enjoying the recent batch of adventures. Well, I am slightly biased towards the locations you've been visiting. Really enjoyed those panoramic black and white images. I bet they will look great printed. :-)

[@CWReace]

Yet more evidence as to why I have no interest in getting back into film, now that digital is so good. Maybe I'm not enough of a masochist? 😉

[@RM831BC4E4]

Beautiful images Thomas.

[@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel]

It's all fun & giggles until Thomas pulls out the film camera and everybody know at this point everything will going downhill. 😁 Nontheless I love the film episodes so much. 👌

[@RayHoth]

I think I speak for us all when I say that good or bad trips, you still make the best of it and your photography is still awesome! Thank you for being a KZbinr and letting us into your world.

[@CornishMotorcycleDiaries]

The psychological answer to your query is it's all about ABC. Or, Antecedents (your previous poor experience with the GX617) Beliefs (you think something is going to go wrong) Consequences (you feel anxious, start rushing - and something does go wrong.) This sets up a vicious cycle which is self-fulfilling - unless you do something to challenge It that is. Photo head back on now and I have serious size envy for the GX617. Mmmmmm....

[@markroylance1584]

I use a linhof 5x4.....£12 a shot messing up 6 shots.... Arrrgh!!! I've been using one for about 30 years... Still make mistakes!! Try Luskentyre beach..... I went to Lewis /Harris in 1977 and I still think about the ' feel' of that place.... Gets in your soul

[@melaninxhalide1165]

NEVER PANIC IF YOU DISCOVER YOU’RE METERING AT THE WRONG ISO. Just Pull or Push your film in development by the corresponding amount of stops. And that’s real easy to do with B&W film….

[@allankerr668]

Hey Tom, new to your channel! I enjoyed your walk with Murray on Skye! This was amazing! Thank you!👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@CristanBoerg]

It sounds so bad, but you don't know how good it feels to see you having this bad experience we all know too good, this moment when you say, you just feel like going home, when we have the feeling to just having messed up everything. But then you show how to overcome this, which is simply to keep going on, not to give in or give up and at the end all of the anger and doubts were unfounded! What a beautiful and instructive video! And then, as I also do some amateurish youtube videos on my outside photography, I cannot beleave and hardly understand the effort you take in making this analog photography videos! There must be days between the shooting scenes and the final remark scene and you make it look, like it all took place in one day! Your videos look so seamless and I am having constantly troubles to find the right connection to the scene I just shoot ten minutes ago! Wow! I have to repeat myself: you are such an inspiration!

[@donyee8970]

Awfully brave showing your "mistakes" But you subconsciously set your meter at ASA 16 accounting for the 4x orange filter factor. ;) . I always enjoy your adventures.

[@lensman5762]

It has happened to all of us. I have been doing film photography for over 40 years and I still do make mistakes. It is best if you remember the sunny 16 rule. On an average sunny day, with a film of ASA 100 ( iso 100 in new money ), the exposure at F16 is the reciprocal of the film ASA. You were using an ASA 100 film so on a sunny day the exposure would have been 1/100s. The conditions were overcast but bright, which requires two extra stops of exposure, ie 1/25s. With the Orange filter, you'd need two more extra stops of exposure so 1/4s exposure was your friend ( a little over exposed but B&W film loves good exposure ). In my youth, Kodak films had an exposure guide based on the sunny 16 rule printed on the inside of the famous yellow box. Very very nice images nonetheless.

[@daniel635biturbo]

Very well chosen edit on the video, keeping us in suspense, I was starting to question my joy of watching you. What kind of a person am I really, watching this poor man struggle, a journey within myself that went fulls circle, when I saw the photos. Very nice, I really liked the first with the filter !

[@PMCN53]

A great example of the sometimes frustration of photography with film. I love the innovation with the filter CLAMPS..... are you going to market that LOL!

[@henrahmagix]

Thomas, man, these photos! 😵 WOW! And I just got a Big new TV so I am *fully* enjoying the _gigantic majesty_ of your incredible photos!!! Blown away, really am m8 🥰🙌

[@rolandrick]

If it’s a colour negative film (C-41 developer) it‘s no problem. It’s almost impossible to fully overexpose C-41 film. Totally other story black and white.

[@dennisvanleent1]

Stunning panoramic photos on film are to be displayed on youtube by Nick Carver only. But seriously, the 617 almost appears jinxed.Luckily it's not the whole roll which was messed up. Just don't budge and keep shooting, and keep learning, I really like your analog content!

[@jsimes1]

So your final voice over ends "... never mind." Then your closing and sponsor shot in the van starts with "Never mind indeed ..." I feel like I just saw Peter Mayhew take off his Chewbacca mask! 😂 Wonderful shots and I'm so glad the meter wasn't buggered for the first few shots!

[@dtaylor607]

The last two were some of your best (IMHO) from the Scotland adventure. Thanks for taking and posting shots from the 617. Cheers.

[@kenwiberg6517]

Any time you catch yourself shooting the wrong ISO/ASA setting, just continue shooting the roll of film that way, then seek out a film processor (or do it yourself) who can do "push" or pull" developing for you and make the corrections in the development time ..... there are ways around these type of errors...... you're not the first to ever make this mistake, and with film sales still ongoing, you're probably not the last to have to deal with this ...... Once you find a custom house that can help, give them more work in the future as they are your saviour ........ Been there, Done that ------- about 40 yrs ago .....

[@marcdicolo3565]

Interesting video ... it shows the anachronism between the modern vlogger running after his electronic V cam and the old school film camera phototgrapher, fighting with a manual light meter and unable to catch up with a changing light ... :) Today, with a digital camera, under these circumstances, you just set auto ISO et ... voilà !!! Results guaranted ... But not the same fun. :) Beautiful images anyway !

[@elwick_photo]

Think maybe you couldn't relax because subconsciously you knew you were doing it all wrong! 🤣🤣

[@cliftonwhittaker260]

I have to say that you have a remarkable knack for falling into a barrel of crap and coming out smelling like a rose. :)) Good images, all. I shot a ton of Agfa 100 and 400 in 120 and 4x5 over several years. I shot 100 at ASA 64 and 400 at ASA 360 on sunny days. Then I reduced the development time of the film from 12 minutes to 9 minutes. This gave me shadow detail without blowing normal highlights, and then I adjusted contrast with the printing paper. Most of these negatives would print well on grade 3 paper.

[@jorisrobben1785]

Hey Thomas, Love the content. Wish I could shoot with that 6x17 fuji... Whats the minimum focus on that lens? Would be cool too experiment with that, like for example shots from the movie: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

[@612morrison]

Thomas, it's a good job you shot these in b&w and not colour slide because b&w is lot more exposure (ball's up) forgiving than colour slide. Great images as per usual 👍. Speaking of colour slide I know it a lot more expensive than Delta 100 but you should give velvia 50 a go even 1 or 2 rolls.

[@JamieBulloch1]

great video, as the curly heided painter Bob Ross said, there are no mistakes, just happy accidents, learning can be a growler at times... top stuff.... oh, do something aboot the squeaky film winder...

[@clivedaniels1054]

Hey Tom. Don't forget to pack your old cds (remember them?) to stop the tripod sinking in sand! Just sayin'. Great images as always. Relief palpable!

[@derekgillan7314]

If you make a mistake with film exposure, ie 100 iso and you expose for 400 iso, simple tell the developer, you can deliberately change the ISO knowingly then develop the film to suit.

[@paulflatt1518]

We all mess up sometimes. I once took an entire nights worth of shots (30 or 40 pics) of the stars with my polarizer on:( I wondered why my images were so dark even though I was cranking up my ISO. Stuff happens. Great video.

[@stuartschaffner9744]

Personally, having started in the 1950's with roll film cameras, I am soo over having to use film. Still, I admire your passion. I remember in about 2014 just getting back into photography. You were just starting your channel. You went out on a sand flat in a big storm, and dropped and broke a filter. As you shouted vainly at the weather gods, another photographer had been heading over to see how you were doing. The other photographer did a sudden U-turn and disappeared into the howling wind. I decided to become a long-term subscriber and have never regretted it.

[@mortenthorpe]

Should’ve used your awesome digital GFX 50R with electronic metering :) I’m not convinced that true black and white is THAT much better than a decent digital conversion of a digital color image capture, especially when most of the light is blue - the highest intensity light color, so deficiencies of digital color pixel filters on the sensor should be minor in daylight Also you’ll need to digitize the black and white emulsion image, and unless you know of a phaseone or equal drum scanner place, I’d wager that this scan is also an issue for image quality

[@user-oo5ik7jn1n]

Great video as usual. I'd like to see how you process you negatives digitally. I shoot 35mm film and photograph the negatives with a macro lens and digital camera. Some gamma correction but not more. I love the “imperfections“ of film.

[@billj5645]

10 things to do and you got 9 of them right, I know well the feeling. "sunny 16" is your backup. when I started photography I didn't own a meter and my camera didn't have a meter so I had to learn to judge exposures myself. Outdoors I would start with sunny 16 and go from there.

[@gohike]

What’s great about your channel is the unfiltered challenges of your creative process. I do think that Headspace would be a great sponsor of this video…your deep breathing techniques would make Andy proud.

[@PixPete]

"Today's video is sponsored by Squarespace" - Eurgh. Mate. I really wish it wasn't. They sponsor every damn photography, videography and creator related channels. I'm so sick of hearing about them that I've vowed to never ever use their services. I hope you can find some new sponsors in the future.

[@benruset]

I think your GX617 might be haunted. It's been a little troublesome for you and you can hear the ghost squeaking when you advance the film.

[@adrianwitten9540]

Excellent video & Great images Thomas. 3 and 6 were excellent but 5 in my opinion was phenomenal. Look forward to seeing more B & W Pano's.

[@scenicedge]

Climbed a peak in the North Cascade Mountains with this camera in the 1990's. In fact, it was up Sahale Arm, Sahale Glacier and to the top of the peak. Saw that video you made of that same area. Looking forward to more adventures by my photographer friends. Have a great year!

[@NicSkerten]

Well - a mistake we all made back in the days when you couldn't "chimp" the back of the camera! The last image was the most powerful in my opinion - but I think I would have gone for a red rather than an orange filter.

[@pematamang9268]

Thomas, since 5 years I enjoyed you video lots. only channel make so impressed. Can you share me website about where did you buy Van from Japan? can you share website for Van? Thanks

[@gregturner2668]

You can’t relax because of your mixture of ‘trait neuroticism’, I.e. your propensity to worry about things, and your high industriousness, which drives you to create and produce. Those two data points will be measurable and give rise to your experience of not being able to relax whilst under time pressure.

[@SceneArtisan]

Yellow filters affect blues less than an orange filter,. and that's less than a red filter affects blues. Red = higher contrast. Orange = medium contrast. Yellow = weaker contrast.

[@mikeray4902]

Thomas? Why are you sitting in your van (Like you are on location) if you have already developed your film, and have seen them? You had to have it processed. Maybe a little overdressed for the occasion? Great photographers' comedy with a happy ending!

[@rickpetersonphotography]

Great images! And love the reactions!!! Congrats on a successful “Big Bertha” photoshoot!

[@hughp00]

Inspiring film pannos Tom. On another subject, did you ever replace those Rode Mics. I have a client having the same issues and I told him I would ask you if you found a good replacements yet.

[@just_eirik]

This question is one I ask for my own sake, I’m not here to argue and fight, do you still use NFT or crypto? I like your videos a lot (which is why I’m bothering asking), but I’m just not willing to support people who use those technologies.

[@astralbody]

I feel like I'm watching a self video diary of my days as of late. :) Here is a mantra for you Thomas. "All will be well" :) Beautiful photos! Cheers!

[@glydiator090]

The pleasure that comes with your frustrating over photos is.............

[@Topsyrm]

Hey Tom, how long after the shoot did you get back into the same clothes and go back into the van to film the outro? if as it seems in the video you had jusy come in from the beach you wouldn't have known your shots were ok?? I still enjoyed the content BTW but having now watched this twice I noticed the continuity issue.

[@danncorbit3623]

I liked the later images better too. The frustrations you experienced add comic relief, because everyone has made foul-ups or thought they did. It is reminiscient of Nick Carver's episode where he is taking polaroid images in the desert and has adventures with bees (which is my favorite Nick Carver video).

[@jenslundinbyh8845]

I received your book yesterday, it was a gift from my wife. I love it! I have followed you for years and I always look forward to your uploads, ups and downs. Brilliant, thanks!

[@JohnPaul-ii]

Arrrr, yep I remember the heady day of film photography. The anticipation of what your hard work was going to show. Only too discover their all 💩 So glad your images were good Tom. Stay safe 🇦🇺

[@FrancoisBoucheros]

Great panos.... totally feel you when the reading is wrong.... and you don't know since when. If you can find some Agfa films there were very strong in contrast. And in color film if you want to experiment with ultra saturated color.... it could be a lot of fun. Thank you so much for sharing all those videos, it's always a good news to see them poping.

[@gojkodjurkovic]

I think it's great to have videos where we can see professional photographer's struggle and make mistakes. Us amateurs are much more often in those kind of situations and sometimes we can feel like quitting but than just show us that we are all just humans. Great photos at the end of the day Thomas. :)

[@joe3eagles]

I must say that you seem to have a much higher tolerance for heart attack inducing situations than I do, Tom. I think for that reason I've never gone back to film photography. The immediate results of digital have probably extended my life by a few years, at least. But hey, you are my hero for taking it all in stride! Cheers!

[@Spencer_White]

The joys of film! And.. unmetered cameras 😍🥰🤣 Amazing shots! Great to see that camera being used to great effect. 🤓👍

[@kevinneilson8063]

Subconsciously you were thinking about your impending ferry journey 🤣😂

[@brentdrafts2290]

Atleast you didn't forget to pull the Darkseid, like I've done with my Mamiya Super 23.

[@Renzsu]

I think you probably could've noticed that 2 seconds was way too long.. and that you also would've noticed that, if you used something like that in the previous shots. Therefor, you were probably fine anyways ;) You always get so defeated in these cases, I hope you allow me to chuckle at that, because in the end you often come home with great shots anyways. And if not that day, then at least in some next occasion. Such is life, no need to beat yourself up too much ;)

[@uncleants]

I have only got half way through to the point where you discovered you had the meter set wrong. Given the previous shots were all in the 1/16th and 1/30th sort of range suggests that it wasnt set for iso 16 then ... it was jogged at the point you noticed I would guess. Black and white film has an awful lot of latitude anyway, so chill :) on a different point. it seems to me that a lot of your stress was caused by filming it. you are using a tricky to use camera which takes time and concentration to get right and filming yourself doing it made what should have been a zen moment into a stress fest. edit: i watched the rest and glad to see you didn't mess up. If I can venture a possible criticism though. Do you think the images may have a little too much foreground and not enough sky?

[@njihia]

Where are the dvd/CD disks Tom? I remember the very first video of yours I watched was you teaching us that hack. So I ask again, where are the dvd/cds 😂.

[@markwalkerphotography]

@Thomas, it's been sometime since you did a techy show, could you look at producing one on how you expose your film images? (and maybe how much post production you done, because the end result of the correctly exposed images looked great) ta 😁

[@williamlaw8229]

Another great video as always Thomas. If you want to use a standard filter holder with the 617, just loosen the small Allen key bolts that hold the lens protection rails in. The rails will stay in place when carrying the camera, but you can just slip them out when you want to use your filters. I travelled a lot with that camera and always did this, worked perfectly and the rails never came out by accident. Keep up the good work!

[@hRs1337]

love to see you working with the gx617 =) have you considered trying out any of the other lenses for it? like the 180 or 300mm?

[@gibbleking]

its called camera anxiety,,,its easily solved by giving a commenter a nice camera you dont use very often,,i hear this relieves all that pent up stress...just a thought fella...

[@Brock_in_the_North]

Even though the F4 guys have disbanded as an entity, are there any plans to go shoot some locations with the fellas? Just for old times sake haha I don't think you've been subjected to nearly enough Hardcastle madness 😜

[@jasonwander4841]

aha! negative films have a wide range of dynamic, especially for the high light. I always love overexposing 2 stops to get the film thicker, 4 stops is not a big problem.

[@markroylance1584]

Hi Tom... Best of luck in Wales..... Hope you visit Torridon sometime

[@bv52gyf]

Thanks for sharing your pain and frustration but you captured some stunning black and white images. Andy

[@EricSnydereasphotography]

Every time I watch your videos, I learn something new and exciting to try! Thank you SO much my friend!

[@nathankelm9457]

Well, your opening monologue by the van definitely had some (unfortunate) foreshadowing!

[@ADFCHRONICLES]

ahaahhaha,, a day in the life, hey I put a prop yesterday right on the seas edge, consider I had to interrupt about 3 long exposure shots because of long waves rolling all the way up to my tripod, of course after I put the prop which happened to be a chair I stood and waited for a wave to come in and erase my footprints........of course , suddenly no more waves🤣

[@mikestanavech7858]

First off like I’ve said before, but that light meter in the ocean and leave it there. Second, delta will easily take 4 stops over with minor adjustments in development.