OVERRATED or UNDERRATED? - EP.5

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@lucasrobinson1102
@lucasrobinson1102 Жыл бұрын
The takes on Ozil reaffirmed by theory that Buvey started watching football in 2019 and Rory is just genuinley delusional
@BigAidsIII
@BigAidsIII Жыл бұрын
Rory hates him because he played for Arsenal. If he'd played for someone else, Rory would disagree with Buvey on this.
@VipinSingh-wy4ss
@VipinSingh-wy4ss Жыл бұрын
Now I understand why Buvey used to remain silent on the kick off because he has no sense of football might be started watching it since pep era. As now he speaks and 9 out of 10 times his comments of football are senseless baseless and I don’t know what less 😂
@ladsd679
@ladsd679 Жыл бұрын
Ozil is super super overrated.
@lucasrobinson1102
@lucasrobinson1102 Жыл бұрын
@@ladsd679 🐑
@ladsd679
@ladsd679 Жыл бұрын
@@lucasrobinson1102 lazy and didn’t even make it at Arsenal
@isackraft9065
@isackraft9065 Жыл бұрын
These takes on Ozil makes me think you never watched him at real or at his first year for arsenal or for Germany, unbelievable takes
@lankywang9543
@lankywang9543 Жыл бұрын
never thought he was the worlds best but he has 4th most assists of all time and a world cup to his name. Definitely being dramatic saying he's the most overrated ever
@riko9911x
@riko9911x Жыл бұрын
Too inconsistent and lazy
@jackkelly6251
@jackkelly6251 Жыл бұрын
@@lankywang9543I don’t think he played much in that World Cup though, I might be wrong
@quantado9411
@quantado9411 Жыл бұрын
super click baity
@jr_484
@jr_484 Жыл бұрын
​@@jackkelly6251he started every single game when they won it and has around 100 caps for Germany.
@dangrifdhsbxjs8424
@dangrifdhsbxjs8424 Жыл бұрын
Ozil is nothing but underrated considering how everyone thinks it’s cool to say he was shit
@Crash_Bash_4ever
@Crash_Bash_4ever Жыл бұрын
He was shit
@jackninetynine5036
@jackninetynine5036 Жыл бұрын
People call him the best playmaker of all time. Tell me how that isn’t overrating him
@TheRolf1793
@TheRolf1793 Жыл бұрын
He is though. I wouldn't trade current Odegaard for prime Ozil right now. Reason being whilst Ozil is most definitely the best playmaker of all time but his work rate was horrendous. His game doesn't translate to what is currently needed. The old 10 is dead. 10s need to be able to press as well and he never put that work in. Ode is a good mix of both and is also a proper leader. Ozil was one of the most controversial players towards the end of his arsenal career. Wenger got shit for benching him. Emery got shit for benching him. Freddie got shit for benching him. Arteta got shit for benching him but the fact is 4 managers benched him and yet because of how popular Ozil is they all got shit for it. But it was the right decision. The fact he failed in Turkey too proves that. And the fact that all these managers got shit for benching him is proof that he is overrated.
@unluckygamer8821
@unluckygamer8821 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRolf1793 everything you said is true but you still call him the best playmaker of all time for some reason. He isn’t even top 5 in all time assists.
@TheRolf1793
@TheRolf1793 Жыл бұрын
@@unluckygamer8821 Assists aren't the only metric that defines a playmaker. Playmakers are usually the ones that deliver the pass before the assist and Ozil had a lot of those. Chances created is a better metric to rate a playmaker rather than just assists. Also, it's really not something that stats alone can show. Not all assists are the same. Same as not all pre assists are the same. It's eye test plus stats that truly show how good a player is.
@alexwebb8717
@alexwebb8717 Жыл бұрын
the ozil shouts were horrible - 3 consecutive seasons with 20+ assists at madrid was unbelievable in a world cup winning germany team. short short memories
@kasperandersen9297
@kasperandersen9297 Жыл бұрын
Great player, but perhaps slightly overrated. It seems as though people think of him as the greatest 10 ever. I’ve seen polls Where people think he was better than Modric, Iniesta etc
@laoch5658
@laoch5658 Жыл бұрын
most of those assists were 2 yard passes
@jackninetynine5036
@jackninetynine5036 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t mean he’s bad but the fact that so many call him the best play maker of all time means he’s overrated
@mazzae6084
@mazzae6084 Жыл бұрын
@@kasperandersen9297 these poles sounds atrocious but surely is more underrated due to the short term memories of people who only remember him from his latter years at arsenal. He is one of the slickest players of this generation and a player like that will not be recreated for a long long time or potentially ever again
@alexwebb8717
@alexwebb8717 Жыл бұрын
@@kasperandersen9297 well i dont think hes the greatest 10 ever haha just a class player - i would argue that i see more posts slating him for his last years at arsenl more than anything else..
@pabloalvarez2967
@pabloalvarez2967 Жыл бұрын
The disrespect on Ozil is unbelievable. He’s was an absolute phenomenal footballer who did things no one else could dream of or even think of doing. We’ll see countless great players, but I guarantee we’ll never see another Ozil.
@kyapatayaar7568
@kyapatayaar7568 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you that Ozil was very creative, amazing footballer. But I have seen how he had to be carried in so many games because he just wasn’t physical enough to press or track back. You could argue that KDB is just as creative as Ozil was. But difference is KDB has amazing stamina and can tackle and press. And don’t get me wrong, this happens with other players from that Arsenal team. People now think Giroud has always been world class. But at Arsenal, he was frustratingly slow and wasteful with chances. Physicality is essential in the PL imo.
@bluemoon1716
@bluemoon1716 Жыл бұрын
kdb equaled Henry's assist record. And actually beat it but the FA took away two of his assists. Ozil was a great player but kdb is levels above him
@pabloalvarez2967
@pabloalvarez2967 Жыл бұрын
@@kyapatayaar7568 you can say that about so many great players though who came through in that time period. Football wasn’t played how it is now and evolved to a point where athleticism is now just as highly valued as pure technical ability. It’s what makes playmakers like De Bruyne so good in today’s game and why the more traditional 10’s such as Ozil have been fazed out over the last 5 years. But comparing the two’s playmaking ability, Ozil is clear. Ozil would have three options in front of him and pick out a fourth option that no one else watching the game could see. That was the brilliance of Ozil and something current playmakers can’t do.
@pabloalvarez2967
@pabloalvarez2967 Жыл бұрын
@@bluemoon1716 Ozil had 19 while playing with Giroud all season
@RsDv5
@RsDv5 Жыл бұрын
@@bluemoon1716 that logic is insanely flawed, look at the players KDB is servicing compared to who Ozil was servicing at Arsenal, apart from Sanchez. Ozil managed 19 assists one season in a team that was no where near as good as this city side. Giroud went on a 16 game goal drought, he would’ve gotten more assists if that wasn’t the case. That’s levels for you bud.
@stealthiscool
@stealthiscool Жыл бұрын
Ozil is genuinely the most underrated player of the 2010s, I saw in real time how his reputation took a 180 as soon as he went to Arsenal, he is the most creative player of that ear not name Messi, a key player for a World cup winner and one of the best players for the best La Liga team ever (for points and goals) with Real Madrid in 11/12, that does not even cover his exploits with Werder, dragging them to the 2009 UEFA cup final, winning the U-21 Euros with a dominant display vs England the same year and his transformative performances at the 2010 World Cup. Although I do admit he did become frustrating in they latter stages of his career with his attitude and application at times especially as an Arsenal fan who was desperate and begging for our best players to lead by example his talent was one of a kind and people will realise just how good his was when they look back without the recency bias and look at his career objectively. Plus I'm not having 'He wouldn't have went to Arsenal if he was the player you thought he was' because Arsenal only got him because of timing, he was available late in the window and Arsenal were the only option and he only came because of Wenger's reputation, I'm kinda sick of the disrespect Arsenal receive, acting like the club are Millwall or something and not one of the biggest clubs in the world.
@unluckygamer8821
@unluckygamer8821 Жыл бұрын
I’m an Arsenal fan, watched every game whilst he was here and the fact you think he was one of the most underrated players of all time is a testament to how overrated he actually was. He was average for the first season, brilliant in the 2nd and from there he was an Arsenal level midfielder, we weren’t lucky to have him, or he didn’t perform like he should be playing for a better team. He was our level. And, to think in your opinion Arsenal had the most underrated player for 6 years is laughable. He was incredibly high rated for what he did earlier in his career, hence why we went crazy when he signed, and hence why he was so well marketed by Adidas and he massed an incredible fanbase. But, at the end of the day, Arsenal fans were left disappointed, because at the end of the day he ended up being our level. Not more, not less. And just because he would have an incredible performance against Bournemouth, didn’t make us forget the amount of times he went missing in top 6 games. Now Alexis Sanchez at Arsenal was a player that was above our level and is the best player I have seen play for the club. The fact that we payed Ozil £350k a week to stay, and let Sanchez leave was laughable and showed how Ozil was incredibly overrated by Wenger himself
@jackninetynine5036
@jackninetynine5036 Жыл бұрын
This is why he’s overrated. Most creative? Modric , de bruyne, xavi, iniesta, Messi we’re not only better but way more consistent & had more longevity
@Nightsu
@Nightsu Жыл бұрын
dropping this on trent minutes after he embarrassed himself once again 😂
@diegoconchas8354
@diegoconchas8354 Жыл бұрын
Had to be buvey
@odasdefender8202
@odasdefender8202 Жыл бұрын
"once again" key phrase
@CB-ms2cq
@CB-ms2cq Жыл бұрын
In fairness to Trent he was the only Liverpool player actually playing for the badge even if he’s shit. The guy was running from RB to press the keeper The rest of the side besides Trent are embarrassing to just walk around and give up.
@hyywe240
@hyywe240 Жыл бұрын
​@@CB-ms2cqa rb shouldn't be pressing the keeper, I think that's the problem
@bluemoon1716
@bluemoon1716 Жыл бұрын
@@CB-ms2cq Trent has been giving up on defending. Ball watching and not tracking back. What have you been watching?
@ares_behindthemask8848
@ares_behindthemask8848 Жыл бұрын
11:43 “If he was the player you say he is, he wouldn’t have gone to Arsenal when he did” I mean you could literally say the same thing about the Di Maria Manchester United transfer. Ozil is the best pure no. 10 we’ve had in modern football and had he not been forced out of Real Madrid, he would’ve broken all assists records out of the water
@FountainOfYoot
@FountainOfYoot Жыл бұрын
"Ozil is the best pure no. 10 we’ve had in modern football" stinks of gooner bias. I absolutely adore Ozil as a football player, my allegiances notwithstanding, but it's insane to act as if Kaka never existed, let alone the incomparable Modric. The last 10s to win a Ballon D'Or (that were not Messi, who is only a 10 in jersey number). Also Ronaldinho? Zidane? I don't understand how people make statements like these. There are things Ozil has done that are incredibly noteworthy, and i personally think he's generally underrated by the fan community, but...dont generalize things like that without qualifying your statement.
@liamhood4981
@liamhood4981 Жыл бұрын
@@FountainOfYoot modric isn’t a 10 for starters lol
@glennoconnor1130
@glennoconnor1130 Жыл бұрын
Ødegaard already better for Arsenal than Özil 😂 you love to see it
@RR-hp5po
@RR-hp5po Жыл бұрын
You could say that with casemiro. 😅
@jheelan4432
@jheelan4432 Жыл бұрын
​@Joshua obaga yeah kaka was a different level to ozil entirely, he doesn't get enough mentions really
@datdoo91
@datdoo91 Жыл бұрын
Ozil was amazing. At Madrid, at Arsenal, for Germany. And people forget his days at Werden Bremen, he was outstanding. One of the most creative players I’ve ever seen. Football quickly transformed where every team wanted to press from the front and didn’t have space for a real creative number 10. But his stats speak for themselves
@AKski-zc2gw
@AKski-zc2gw Жыл бұрын
saying ozil is the most overrated player ever is the most stupid think to say WORLD CUP WINNER SPANISH CHAMPION 4X ENGLISH FA CUP GERMAN CUP SPANISH CUP 2X ENGLISH SUPER CUP SPANISH SUPER CUP 645 game 114 goals 222 assist
@Virajasaur
@Virajasaur Жыл бұрын
"Mata is more talented than Ozil" sums up the the intelligence levels of Man City fans
@thelonewolf8810
@thelonewolf8810 Жыл бұрын
Generalise because a city fan has that opinion, not all of us muppet
@MaizenBlue81
@MaizenBlue81 Жыл бұрын
Ozil was one of the most creative players I’ve ever seen, this is madness
@DiDieRxDrOgBa
@DiDieRxDrOgBa Жыл бұрын
Nostalgic lens. Man went missing for far too long. World class on his day but so is Paul Pogba.
@lukestockstill8391
@lukestockstill8391 Жыл бұрын
He was perfectly rated until he retired. Then people started making the most ridiculous statements I’ve ever seen. Saying he was a batter playmaker than Messi lmao
@FeelMyFerret
@FeelMyFerret Жыл бұрын
Also one of the laziest players I ever saw aside from Deli Alli.
@Steven.2799
@Steven.2799 Жыл бұрын
@@FeelMyFerret proving the point tho, he was lazy and still did all that, just shows how good he was
@FeelMyFerret
@FeelMyFerret Жыл бұрын
@@Steven.2799 And just imagine how elite he would have been with a work ethic.
@mrwavey4801
@mrwavey4801 Жыл бұрын
Rorys rant about hodgson was a classic 😂
@bourbon8705
@bourbon8705 Жыл бұрын
Dropping this just after Trent's disasterclass. Elite banter 🤣🤣
@georgejohnson9056
@georgejohnson9056 Жыл бұрын
he’s on 160k don’t this he’s arsed
@sloht4061
@sloht4061 Жыл бұрын
@Moss chino Boss welp, selling drugs does nothing for your future, offers you not sustainable ability to earn past that and if you go to jail, you have nothing when you get out. Dont use footballers as an excuse for your peasantry behavior.
@sloht4061
@sloht4061 Жыл бұрын
@Moss chino Boss materials are great. When you're arrested, im sure none of those rent to buy options will turn around to bite you.
@sloht4061
@sloht4061 Жыл бұрын
@Moss chino Boss ooo big boy. A month ? You'll inevitably be aught again and your sentence will be far worse. Do you think you're life is impressive ? It's sad man. You have no means of sustainable income and your only "knowledge" asset in life is "the streets". Try learning something, try bettering yourself and your prospects rather than favoring small gains and a tiny moment of your life. It's just not sustainable. Hey, it'll get you eventually, you'll waste your life chasing chump change for the sake of some clout. Try trading. If you're willing to risk your life for some pennies, may aswell do something far better in the long run, far more profitable and far easier to take credit for and be proud of.
@adams8748
@adams8748 Жыл бұрын
​@Moss chino Boss alright hard
@Steven.2799
@Steven.2799 Жыл бұрын
If Ozil stayed at Madrid he’d be challenging messi for the most assists of all time
@Dannyvan14
@Dannyvan14 Жыл бұрын
Yup, couldn't cope in the Prem. In the Prem you are asked to do more than you are in La Liga.
@mohammedalabbad1783
@mohammedalabbad1783 Жыл бұрын
@@Dannyvan14 huh? Buddy you are lost ozil was owning the prem his career ended because of politics
@James-co2nb
@James-co2nb Жыл бұрын
​​@@Dannyvan14ne off being tied for most assists in a prem season is not coping? I guess Fabregas, Lampard et al couldn't cope either? At a shite, at the time, Arsenal as well...
@alarrim29574
@alarrim29574 Жыл бұрын
@@Dannyvan14 has more to do with working with less talent and worse chances at winning titles. Ozil tore it up in England 😂
@HFITSYouube
@HFITSYouube Жыл бұрын
Truth🙌🏼
@Lee101_
@Lee101_ Жыл бұрын
It’s, by definition, impossible for a player to be overrated when everyone says he’s bad. Alexander-Arnold is not overrated.
@Xrrr548
@Xrrr548 Жыл бұрын
He is one of the overrated players ever
@JustinLT212
@JustinLT212 Жыл бұрын
@@Xrrr548 go look at his recent performances in midfield he’s been used wrong cause we don’t have another RB
@onlyweatherlol93
@onlyweatherlol93 Жыл бұрын
A little reminder that Ozil absolutely destroyed CHELSEA in the FA Cup Final in 2017... absolutely mesmeric performance. He ran them ragged
@taylena1235
@taylena1235 Жыл бұрын
Ozil is a weird one some people underrated him like these two and some people really overrate him
@MattitudePlays
@MattitudePlays Жыл бұрын
Arsenal fan here. Ozil was terrible. 1 good season in how many? And that was down to Sanchez. He is a massive whinger. He brings down the dressing room. He thought he was better than everyone else. Glad he's gone, good riddance
@stealthiscool
@stealthiscool Жыл бұрын
I think more people underrated him nowadays because of how his career has ended up since 2018
@MattitudePlays
@MattitudePlays Жыл бұрын
@@stealthiscool the dude was the laziest, most petulant whinger, we've ever had at the club. His attitude was always shockingly bad and he only ever played 1 good season in his entire tenure at Arsenal.... And I'm a gooner saying that. Honestly when he left I was like "thank god"
@hamzaesat4085
@hamzaesat4085 Жыл бұрын
Facts. He is now underrated given what people are saying. BUT. Ozil only turned up 20% of his games. He never tracked back. And actually at times he can be shaky on the ball. He was also very poor in front of goal. He was very direct. Ødegaard does so much more in terms of pressing, diagonal long balls, and dropping deep in our own half.
@MattitudePlays
@MattitudePlays Жыл бұрын
@@hamzaesat4085 dude so true in all your points about him only turning up in small amounts 🙌🙌 Ozil had a poor attitude also. A really bad work rate. Even Odegaard from 2 seasons ago trounces him in every single department
@Squidward-jv7go
@Squidward-jv7go Жыл бұрын
Mourinho: “Ozil is one of a kind, there is no bad copy of him. He is the best number 10 in the world Ronaldo: “The sale of Ozil is bad news for me, I’m angry Ozil is leaving” Guardiola: “I admire him a lot, he is a world class player” Kaka: “after Cristiano, my favourite player to play with at Real Madrid was Mesut” Reus: “I would say Ozil is the best I’ve ever played with” Maybe if Ozil won the league when Arsenal should have (the season where Giroud had no back up and shit the bed and Ozil had like 15 assists by January) he’d be respected more Guy was up against the English media from day one, Ozil got 19 assists and Dele Alli got ahead of him in the Team of the year lmao
@unluckygamer8821
@unluckygamer8821 Жыл бұрын
On his day he was fantastic but the years of inconsistency take a toll on his career. There’s a reason nobody wanted him in his early 30s
@limi.
@limi. Жыл бұрын
Conte and Mourinho could be great managers for National teams if I am honest...their style of play really fits in well for Cup competitions, not the attractive style of football but bring out results for Cup competitions.
@jamesduffy7549
@jamesduffy7549 Жыл бұрын
You can't have the tournament without the break though Rory- these weren't friendlies they were qualifiers.
@TakerKaneanite619
@TakerKaneanite619 Жыл бұрын
Rory deserved better on the Saturday Social video.
@andrethomas4885
@andrethomas4885 Жыл бұрын
Mate those ppl r like udk ball but yet tell u that mbappe is not bettr than messie cus he never won a ballan dor😂😂😂
@hatarihazard5776
@hatarihazard5776 Жыл бұрын
4-1 Trent made jack look like Neymar
@chelseafan1692
@chelseafan1692 Жыл бұрын
Jack does that to every RB
@matthiast1219
@matthiast1219 Жыл бұрын
@@chelseafan1692 🤡
@unclebensrice4702
@unclebensrice4702 Жыл бұрын
​@@chelseafan1692 nah he doesn't 😂
@nickcasillas3395
@nickcasillas3395 Жыл бұрын
@@chelseafan1692lol no
@Too_m
@Too_m Жыл бұрын
​@@chelseafan1692 Bruh💀
@jebsshmeb224
@jebsshmeb224 Жыл бұрын
Please do a proper ‘Over-rated XI’ video on here after Rory got shouted down on a horrendous take of that video on Saturday Social.
@stuartabbott2307
@stuartabbott2307 Жыл бұрын
Bloody hell, all the people in the discussion knew what Overrated means! Must be a nice experience for Rory.
@Bazza-Bazza
@Bazza-Bazza Жыл бұрын
Just seen that Saturday social video. God, it was a struggle to get through.
@skgsinc1833
@skgsinc1833 Жыл бұрын
Mourinho is top 3 football managers of all time. Won the champions league with FC Porto, Inter Milan and made Chelsea football club what it is today. Put some respect on that man's name
@DS-dw3pz
@DS-dw3pz Жыл бұрын
Trent made Grealish look like Prime Hazard😂
@Cbart23
@Cbart23 Жыл бұрын
If Özil didn’t have bangs average Giroud, he and Arsenal would have achieved more in that era. It was Wenger’s French loyalty to Giroud that screwed that.
@Hyplexity
@Hyplexity Жыл бұрын
Buvey has got to be going on a bit about Mesut Ozil. Such a jokester
@kingkenny6368
@kingkenny6368 Жыл бұрын
Funny listening to this after trent has bossed it in midfield
@doktoryassa
@doktoryassa Жыл бұрын
As an Arsenal fan, I think Ozil is an unbelievable talent, among the best ever. That being said, he never elevated us significantly, and most importantly he is one of the laziest players I have ever seen, therefore he is super overrated. Another thing to support this claim is that in his 3 years in Madrid, they won 1 league title and 1 cup, while exiting champions league in the semi final stage. When he left, Real won 4 time in 5 years. Coincidence? I don't think so.
@jackdowling886
@jackdowling886 Жыл бұрын
Starting to think Adam is the only one who knows what he’s talking about
@kumail2113
@kumail2113 Жыл бұрын
This podcast has shown Adam is the only one of the 3 that actually has some semblance of ball knowledge.
@stefangudnason5978
@stefangudnason5978 Жыл бұрын
The things Buvey are Rory are saying about özil blows my mind. At his prime at Real and the first season's in the prem he was the best midfielder in the world, breaking records and winning everything he cult except the Prem. Even CR7 said he was the best player he ever played with in his career of just how he controlled a tempo of a game from his point of view. It amaze me that Buvey said he did nothing for his team when he carried arsenal on his back, crating and making changes for everyone in his team. He still has the record of a 19 assist in a season that KDB hasn't even come close to get. The most underrated mid of all time
@sammasters6443
@sammasters6443 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention he also broke the record for most goal scoring opportunities created by 1 player in a match, then broke it again later in the same season! 2015 Ozil one of the best midfielders in the Prem easily
@koladeadegbiji3169
@koladeadegbiji3169 Жыл бұрын
KDB has tied Henry for 20 assists though. In the 2019/20 season
@ImBubba
@ImBubba Жыл бұрын
2:11 this was hilarious lmao its always so funny when these 2 have a go at each other
@ranukanu28
@ranukanu28 Жыл бұрын
Buvey waffled it with his take on Ozil. To say that he is 3x more overrated than Trent is absolute lunacy!
@MattitudePlays
@MattitudePlays Жыл бұрын
Ozil is overrated. Arsenal fan here. I hated Ozils "superior attitude". He had 1 good season in his entire tenure. Whinging little d*ck, glad he's gone
@unluckygamer8821
@unluckygamer8821 Жыл бұрын
On his day he was fantastic but the years of inconsistency take a toll on his career. There’s a reason nobody wanted him in his early 30s
@nateadams6459
@nateadams6459 Жыл бұрын
Trent is a RM playing RB who has CDMs covering for him. Eventually he’s gonna be converted to a RW to replace salah cause Pool won’t do the right thing with him
@dhruvmishra5776
@dhruvmishra5776 Жыл бұрын
The Ozil opinions are nonsense. Buvey and Rory never saw him play at Madrid
@As-qz5lr
@As-qz5lr Жыл бұрын
Why did Real sell him?
@Idrees913
@Idrees913 Жыл бұрын
@@As-qz5lr y did Real sell: ronaldo, makelele, Odegaard, Robben, Khedira and many more
@As-qz5lr
@As-qz5lr Жыл бұрын
@@Idrees913 difference was when they sold Makelele, they didn't win a CL for years. Ronaldo got 4 CLs but they couldn't agree contract terms. None of the others were rated as world class and key for them. Ozil was key but they were clearly right to get rid off him as they won CLs for fun once he left whilst Ozil was competing for FA cups.
@Idrees913
@Idrees913 Жыл бұрын
@@As-qz5lr they were centurions with Özil they didn't win the league for 4 years after he left. özil was literally scoring goals away at Bayern when they were going out In the semi; it's insane context bending on your part to make that link
@adarbarrush
@adarbarrush Жыл бұрын
Either he's trolling about ozil or their delusion is unreal. The first guy mourinho wanted for real was Ozil. He was unreal at werder Bremen taking them to a Europa League final and winning the German cup. Was unreal with mourinho at real and in 2012 and 2014 for Germany. Not even in Spain do they rank mata above Ozil
@unluckygamer8821
@unluckygamer8821 Жыл бұрын
There’s a reason he finished his career so early and terribly. He didn’t have the attitude to carry on. He had a great 5 years but people act like that was his whole career. If you watched him week in week out for arsenal like I did you would understand the overrated conversation. He was extremely inconsistent especially against the big teams. He would demolish Bournemouth and then seemingly go missing for the next 4 games
@brantonioj1098
@brantonioj1098 Жыл бұрын
Trent is the worst on-ball defender in the Premier League era. Atrocious forward pass merchant
@Lordofbags
@Lordofbags Жыл бұрын
That’s some wild takes on Ozil. He is what he is. A phenomenal talent who could/should have done more. One game he’s the best player on the pitch and another he’s the the most frustrating player you’ll ever watch while he was at arsenal. Buvey and Rory’s takes are egregious though lol. When he was at Madrid he was on another level.
@lankykid33
@lankykid33 Жыл бұрын
Watching this after TAA has not only adapted into a midfield role but is also smashing it, shows what a horrible take this was from all 3 of them
@MrOasis316
@MrOasis316 Жыл бұрын
Not a horrible take he was a defender when this video was made and he was hilariously terrible at defending. Correct take
@WhitecapPXQ
@WhitecapPXQ Жыл бұрын
Cant believe Adam didnt remember Antony kissing the badge for his first prem goal against Arsenal at OT
@venom_snake1984
@venom_snake1984 Жыл бұрын
Ozil redefined the No. 10 role. If he played for a better team than Arsenal, he would easily be at the same level as Modric and Kroos. Absolutely awful takes. Ozil was massively underrated and one of the best No. 10s of all time.
@daniyalwaliaziz6500
@daniyalwaliaziz6500 Жыл бұрын
Are you kidding with the ozil shout, by rory's point danny drinkwater is world class cuz he played for Chelsea that was challenging for titles 🤨
@As-qz5lr
@As-qz5lr Жыл бұрын
If Ozil was as good as people think, he would never have been sold by Real Madrid and a better team than Arsenal (at that time) would have bought him.
@Idrees913
@Idrees913 Жыл бұрын
@@As-qz5lr was Ronaldinho that good for him to be sold to a 5th place milan team
@As-qz5lr
@As-qz5lr Жыл бұрын
@@Idrees913 you are ignoring that Ronaldinho was the talisman behind Barca's success between 04-06 and was the best player in the world for those 3 years where they won everything. The fact you are comparing Ozil to Ronaldinho shows Ozil is overrated.
@Idrees913
@Idrees913 Жыл бұрын
@@As-qz5lr I'm just using your logic that a world class player would never leave for a worse team
@kimykacyira675
@kimykacyira675 Жыл бұрын
"Wouldn't have moved to an Arsenal team that was winning FA cups and finishing 4th at best" But Casemiro moved to a United team that's winning a Carabao cup and fighting for top 4 and you can't deny his world class quality. Stop it
@64Ahmed
@64Ahmed Жыл бұрын
He ruined my life.. He ruined my life 😂😂😂
@FreemindTv11
@FreemindTv11 Жыл бұрын
This proves that Mesut Ozil is criminally underrated, career ruined by Arsenal imo
@VBAHMED
@VBAHMED Жыл бұрын
His retirement has made him very overrated
@thiagoteixeira6537
@thiagoteixeira6537 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think Trent would be better off as midfielder!
@callumjames8933
@callumjames8933 Жыл бұрын
That Ozil shout is Buvey's worst ever. If Arsenal weren't their rival this season he never would've gone so harsh
@unluckygamer8821
@unluckygamer8821 Жыл бұрын
I’m an arsenal fan and Ozil is most definitely overrated. He was so inconsistent
@NickBBBBB
@NickBBBBB Жыл бұрын
notice how much recency bias there is. before this season "contes one of the best in the world" "trents generational" but now both of them are shite
@dylanfaye7014
@dylanfaye7014 Жыл бұрын
Same with happened to Özil and Ronaldo with how their careers went, just the state of football nowadays
@ajmolabedin5739
@ajmolabedin5739 Жыл бұрын
Brendan Rodgers has left his role as manager of Leicester City.
@adame636
@adame636 Жыл бұрын
Ozil had a 3 year peak and a 7 year career. David Silva and De Bruyne who he's always compared to have been world class midfielders for 10 years
@charliebrett2432
@charliebrett2432 Жыл бұрын
For the talent he had as a player Ozil should have done so much more - honestly he was arguably the most talented midfielder in the world at Madrid. Should never have gone to Arsenal, if he'd stayed he would have won a bunch of Champions leagues and have been up there with Iniesta as the greatest attacking mid in the last 20 years. The way it ended for him as well is just depressing
@zayn6725
@zayn6725 Жыл бұрын
Madness jumping on Trent like that
@nmg1469
@nmg1469 Жыл бұрын
The ‘he worked in a pie shop’ sent me
@abdihassan1999
@abdihassan1999 Жыл бұрын
Ozil won word cup was one of most important player in World Cup most assist ever for middefield people are crazy
@VBAHMED
@VBAHMED Жыл бұрын
He was NOT one of the most important players😭😭
@Idrees913
@Idrees913 Жыл бұрын
@@VBAHMED yh its not as if he played all but 7 minutes of KO Football for Germany that yr...
@VBAHMED
@VBAHMED Жыл бұрын
@@Idrees913 huh
@Idrees913
@Idrees913 Жыл бұрын
@@VBAHMED He played every minute of Knockout football for Germany in the 2014 Fifa World Cup barring 7 minutes against France
@VBAHMED
@VBAHMED Жыл бұрын
@@Idrees913 doesn’t mean he was that important lol
@young_raymond47
@young_raymond47 Жыл бұрын
The Hodgson segment is hilarious
@maxoys45
@maxoys45 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more about Trent, utterly dreadful defender.
@lolmeercatz10
@lolmeercatz10 Жыл бұрын
Mata better than Ozil, you guys are trolling
@MrHenhen5
@MrHenhen5 Жыл бұрын
Honestly just look up how many assists ozil has, even for arsenal. Underrated
@justbrandonokay
@justbrandonokay Жыл бұрын
I agree with Adam, Conte is finished, not because he doesn't have the ability, but because he's burnt his bridges everywhere, unless Diego Simeone decides to retire for no reason, I just don't see Conte being a major success anywhere
@samkelorashuza5949
@samkelorashuza5949 Жыл бұрын
Simione will retire
@jagudaza
@jagudaza Жыл бұрын
RORY was the one not so long ago saying how Trent is underarated on his defending abilities and defending his point profusely hahahah!
@JesseShortss
@JesseShortss Жыл бұрын
Mourinho is considered as one of the best coaches in this game you can’t expect him to be great forever
@olavjorvik94
@olavjorvik94 Жыл бұрын
I watched Scotlands two games this break. Robbo was wingback in a 5, with Tierney behind him. He had 3 assists and 2 clean sheets. I’ve seen England play with a 5, with Trent or James as wingbacks with Walker behind, and various other mixes. I’ve also seen James in Chelsea with Azpi behind him. This is how Liverpool should play. They have the CB with possibly the highest potential in the league, but even he looks like an absolute fool at times, because he don’t work hard enough and he gets left alone too much, with the high full backs. Play 3 at the back, plus the wingbacks. 2 in midfield. It’s the way to go. But Klopp don’t see it. I’m so upset they don’t wanna give it a go. Drop Fabinho and put Matip in there. Please. I just wanna see it. Once. It may fail, but please try and change things around. 4-3-3 don’t work, we’re too old and lazy.
@FreemindTv11
@FreemindTv11 Жыл бұрын
That 7-0 trophy looks pretty good doesnt it liverpool😭
@samkelorashuza5949
@samkelorashuza5949 Жыл бұрын
You lost 7-0 to this team
@FreemindTv11
@FreemindTv11 Жыл бұрын
@@samkelorashuza5949 we also beat the other team 2-1, can beat Spanish sides, haven’t lost to Bournemouth, and have Trophy this season
@samkelorashuza5949
@samkelorashuza5949 Жыл бұрын
@@FreemindTv11 But you lost 7-0
@FreemindTv11
@FreemindTv11 Жыл бұрын
@@samkelorashuza5949 but we have a trophy and are 3rd, I really don’t care about the 7-0 the rest of the season has been a party your not invited too
@Robert-ks5ix
@Robert-ks5ix Жыл бұрын
​@@FreemindTv11that 7-0 will be remembered longer than the energy drink cup you won playing nobody. Just lying to yourself saying you don't care about it and also yous are shite this season so back to normality for you lot 👍
@paulfitzell6429
@paulfitzell6429 Жыл бұрын
Rory, saying mata is as good as ozil is up there with ur Haaland goal scoring prediction
@stevenromero9348
@stevenromero9348 Жыл бұрын
Rory’s rant on Hodgson was fucking hilarious
@gavinewens9073
@gavinewens9073 Жыл бұрын
Özil is the only player in history to get highest assists in the Prem, La Liga, Bundesliga and the World Cup. Holds the record for highest chances created in a prem season. Instrumental in Germany’s World Cup success and considered the best in a great Germany team. Ronaldo says himself Özil made him the best player in the world. Ended Arsenals trophy draught with 4 FA cups, probably the best they could do with the team they had at the time. Just some reasons as to why he isn’t overrated 🤷🏼‍♂️
@HLW
@HLW Жыл бұрын
The intro for sponsorship getting slightly annoying as they're so long 😒 😂
@arushpati
@arushpati Жыл бұрын
Ozil's peak was cut short because of complacency and laziness. You look at the level some players are playing at, even when they turn 33-34 and he was pretty much done by the age of 29, and that much should be acknowledged; but to say he was overrated is an absolute travesty. Few attacking midfielders have performed for their National teams the way Ozil has for Germany. People also forget how good he was for 3 seasons at Real Madrid. Ronaldo acknowledged Ozil as being one of his favourite players to have ever played with because he was so incisive and ruthless with his passing. He was the best attacking midfielder in Europe for a good 4 seasons.
@afnanhussain9824
@afnanhussain9824 Жыл бұрын
Ozil was the star when Germany won the world cup
@tidepods2686
@tidepods2686 Жыл бұрын
No he wasn’t
@isaacweston685
@isaacweston685 Жыл бұрын
Ozil is criminally underrated
@kiefermccuaig2047
@kiefermccuaig2047 Жыл бұрын
Very modern take on ozil because he was perceived as lazy. Guy had class oozing out Him.
@seanmorrissy7347
@seanmorrissy7347 Жыл бұрын
International friendlies are the only time I get to see Ireland actually play though
@chris.2031
@chris.2031 Жыл бұрын
When Rory was next to Hugh Wizzy he'd get destroyed any time he said anything about Arsenal
@oceansarchived
@oceansarchived Жыл бұрын
özil is my favourite player ever so maybe i’m biased. but people chose to forget how incredible he was. the most elegant player i’ve ever seen. you’ve got players like KDB and these come through and sure, most likely a better overall player, but nahh bro not even he has the sauce and tek that özil had. arguably the best creative midfielder to touch the game.
@unluckygamer8821
@unluckygamer8821 Жыл бұрын
On his day he was fantastic but the years of inconsistency take a toll on his career. There’s a reason nobody wanted him in his early 30s
@hosseinamin7752
@hosseinamin7752 Жыл бұрын
"Ozil going to the Arsenal team that finished 4th at best"?! Arsenal and Man utd were the only premier league sides which qualified for the champions league from 1998-99 until 2013 (when Ozil joined). So it means 4th place at worst.
@Vava663
@Vava663 Жыл бұрын
Adam is completely right about Conte, his style of football is dead, you can’t play “defensive” football anymore and expect to win titles. And Rory needs to take a look at Allegri in Juventus who has the exact same style as Conte and is awful this season.
@BlackChrishi
@BlackChrishi Жыл бұрын
You can play "defensive football" and win titles, it's just not sustainable long term and is unreliable against smaller teams in cup competition. Just 2 seasons ago, both Atlético and Inter Milan won titles with what you'd call "defensive football". Also Allegri's team had a 15 point deduction without which they'd be 2nd in the Serie A and 2 points above Lazio who currently occupy that spot.
@Anonymous-sq8me
@Anonymous-sq8me Жыл бұрын
I swear without the points deduction juve would be second🤣🤣
@Vava663
@Vava663 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackChrishi It’s not even sustainable short term anymore as almost all leagues has big teams that play positional play nowadays, which will always be supreme.
@Vava663
@Vava663 Жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-sq8me If you’ve watched Juventus this season you would’ve known they played awful football.
@Anonymous-sq8me
@Anonymous-sq8me Жыл бұрын
@@Vava663 style of football does not equate to results and juventus are getting results regardless of the way they play inter and Milan may play flashier football but would be doing worse off pre points deduction
@Chidi_jc
@Chidi_jc Жыл бұрын
Ozil is world class a man said juan mata is better 💀💀
@joshuarambharose5566
@joshuarambharose5566 Жыл бұрын
Buvey literally doesn’t know a thing about Ozil lol
@laoch5658
@laoch5658 Жыл бұрын
it wasnt a friendly against italy it was a qualifier
@Idrees913
@Idrees913 Жыл бұрын
Buvey trying to talk football is like a Klansman trying to review a 2Pac album. Completely clueless
@rossadams5293
@rossadams5293 Жыл бұрын
Prime Ozil starts in every single premier league team right now
@jameskadar6555
@jameskadar6555 Жыл бұрын
Rory we need to have a conversation Jennings
@samkelorashuza5949
@samkelorashuza5949 Жыл бұрын
The lack of ball knowledge is crazy how can a manager failing at only one be finished?
@seanknight5675
@seanknight5675 Жыл бұрын
can we get some appreciation for Adam bigging up Ozil
@Sircoochie
@Sircoochie Жыл бұрын
Conte would do absolutely nothing with juventus
@alexab543
@alexab543 Жыл бұрын
This one I feel strongly about, int'l football is very overrated when it comes to the quality. You often see players ball out in tourneys because there's barely any tactics and set patterns, as managers don't get to coach players consistently, then they get their big move and they're pants, James is an obvious example.
@user-zo5dr2qe4x
@user-zo5dr2qe4x Жыл бұрын
International tournament footballs the best . Best vibes and means the most . I’ve always loved it way more then the leagues . Champions league is great though .
@petereats
@petereats Жыл бұрын
The Ozil chat makes me question if these guys watch the players they talk about.
@unluckygamer8821
@unluckygamer8821 Жыл бұрын
On his day he was fantastic but the years of inconsistency take a toll on his career. There’s a reason nobody wanted him in his early 30s
@As-qz5lr
@As-qz5lr Жыл бұрын
Thank God, some truth on Ozil. People were comparing him to Iniesta and Modric when he announced his retirement. He plays beautiful football but its no coincidence that Madrid instantly won the CL the season he left and subsequently won another 4 in the next few years. Not someone you want to win a tough game of football. Even for Germany he was overshadowed by Kroos and they pushed him out wide for Kroos around when they won the WC in 2014.
@JamJar93
@JamJar93 Жыл бұрын
Could not get his way on sky sports so done on this 😂
@MattitudePlays
@MattitudePlays Жыл бұрын
Ozil is overrated. Arsenal fan here. 1 good season in how many? Massive whinger too. No work rate. Awful player, glad he's gone
@mitchconner4057
@mitchconner4057 Жыл бұрын
Trent Overrated-Arnold
@HFITSYouube
@HFITSYouube Жыл бұрын
That time period you didn’t need to work so much off the ball like a lot of players in that era and he still produced greatness not just against ludogrets
@nikhil9290
@nikhil9290 Жыл бұрын
I think you guys also need to add perfectly rated.
@DrSpasticat
@DrSpasticat Жыл бұрын
Ronaldinho not top 5 attackers midfielders or wide forwards, world class for 2 seasons but people put him with the likes of Pele, Maradona and Cruyff solely because he was an amazing skiller
@lisandroflores95
@lisandroflores95 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldinho was amazing since he was in gremio, and if wasn't considered world class he wouldn't have been on the brazil teams, he was a beautiful gem at psg and a master at Barcelona, even his post was great, he went around the world playing football everywhere
@benthestreetsarfa7454
@benthestreetsarfa7454 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely think Trent would make a great Central Midfielder he has the footballing IQ for it
@ethandraper4645
@ethandraper4645 Жыл бұрын
This is a joke, right?
@benthestreetsarfa7454
@benthestreetsarfa7454 Жыл бұрын
@@ethandraper4645 where’s my credit?
@ethandraper4645
@ethandraper4645 Жыл бұрын
@@benthestreetsarfa7454 For what?
@benthestreetsarfa7454
@benthestreetsarfa7454 Жыл бұрын
@@ethandraper4645 his performances inverted
@ethandraper4645
@ethandraper4645 Жыл бұрын
@@benthestreetsarfa7454 One decent game against West Ham? Behave.
@lindokuhlesandi9034
@lindokuhlesandi9034 Жыл бұрын
Complete disrespect on Ozil. Only reason he left Real is because they signed players in his position and he didn't want that competition for places because of what he had already done
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