Who has the BEST Racing AI in 2024?

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OverTake_gg

OverTake_gg

Күн бұрын

Racing against the AI in your favorite simracing titles or racing games can be fun, but sometimes it breaks the immersion when it fails. We thought it was time for a deeper analysis with different categories to see what the status of "computer racers" is on track in seven major racing titles in 2024. Feat. ‪@EmreeRacing‬
00:00 Intro
00:27 Categories
01:10 F1 24
04:07 Le Mans Ultimate
06:09 Assetto Corsa Competizione
07:18 Automobilista 2
08:19 RaceRoom
09:43 Gran Turismo 7
11:32 iRacing
14:30 Ranking & Verdict
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@OverTake_gg
@OverTake_gg 19 күн бұрын
Do you prefer to race against the AI or other players in multiplayer modes?
@lavishmctavish4905
@lavishmctavish4905 19 күн бұрын
I love myself a casual AI race, mulitplayer is like Call of Duty, you have to be ready for 'people', people with bad connection and also bad tempers. Divebombing doesn't happen in AI races and if you, just like me, get enough enjoyment from AI, I would recommend AMS 2. AMS 2 really has strong AI that fight for positions. Gran Turismo is a good second for me because you have Sophy AI. You basically teach it your race crafts and it tries to tackle your style depending on your difficulty level
@hellomenopee
@hellomenopee 19 күн бұрын
Coop! Do a Co-op List! 1. AMS2 2... um... we'll see what LMU does for this. 3. Rent a server?
@slatanek
@slatanek 18 күн бұрын
Both. Online racing is more demanding mentally obviously, so not always in the mood for it. AI racing is a good way to just chill and practice your racecraft without the competing aspect.
@sebq998
@sebq998 18 күн бұрын
im 40+ casual gamer and dot'n have time for online so good AI is very important for me.
@greatscot04
@greatscot04 18 күн бұрын
AI. I have so little time to race that I need to be able to race what I want when I want.
@billbaggins1688
@billbaggins1688 18 күн бұрын
Emily is such a great presenter. Speaks naturally, intelligent and knowledgeable. Such a breath of fresh air for KZbin content.
@dauntae24
@dauntae24 19 күн бұрын
ACC’s AI is awesome if you like getting pit maneuvered on constantly.
@redcobra1246
@redcobra1246 18 күн бұрын
You got me in the first half
@callum4122
@callum4122 18 күн бұрын
and its also amazing to not have any competition because they just don't battle you at all
@snippidippi
@snippidippi 15 күн бұрын
Sometimes, I'm more scared to overtake ai than a human at public. Acc has ai that has no programming knowing you're there
@callum4122
@callum4122 14 күн бұрын
@@snippidippi I've noticed that. You have to take a corner looking at your mirror to make sure they don't just slam into you
@twandepan
@twandepan 13 күн бұрын
also frustratingly you don’t gain much SA from racing the ai, but lose a bunch if they crash into you.
@jackcraters1425
@jackcraters1425 19 күн бұрын
Raceroom adaptive AI, you have to run 3 races in a class for the adaptive AI to be correct. So you will run a couple races with it way off before it locks in to the correct difficulty.
@ryanelfani7329
@ryanelfani7329 19 күн бұрын
Honestly GT Sophy is there as a sneak peak to be released in GT8 probably, but as far as we can use it, it's great. You can also see a few videos of it racing the fastest drivers on Grand Prix Turismo TV and it's impressive.
@guitarsimon1
@guitarsimon1 19 күн бұрын
Gran Turismo having by far the best AI, but that you can only race against in a very limited and specific capacity is the most Gran Turismo thing ever.
@Two49
@Two49 18 күн бұрын
Similar to how GT7 weather physics are awesome but also only available on a few tracks 💀
@petouser
@petouser 18 күн бұрын
It's still work in process, so I kinda understand that. But the worst thing is that the normal AI sucks.
@supercededman
@supercededman 18 күн бұрын
Agreed, Sophy has various levels of difficulty, and even elite drivers have trouble beating it.
@schwarzer9
@schwarzer9 18 күн бұрын
Nope... in GT the ai are running on rails...
@RacingRizzo
@RacingRizzo 15 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 this Bots are so bullshit😂😂😂
@vvs6433
@vvs6433 19 күн бұрын
I race against Sophy all the time, its great way to find out how fast are my builds. Sophy is not very competitive in BoP races, but it is very capable in 500 - 700 PP road car races. If I win against Sophy in a road car (without BoP) I know I will dominate online lobbies with that tune.
@dazonyt8094
@dazonyt8094 18 күн бұрын
All the time? How do you race against Sophy in cars, races and tracks where it's not available?
@vvs6433
@vvs6433 18 күн бұрын
​@@dazonyt8094 "All the time" can also mean often.
@disast1ckup
@disast1ckup 14 күн бұрын
I also use sophy to test setups.. even tho some of the ai matchups can be OP
@vvs6433
@vvs6433 14 күн бұрын
@@disast1ckup I wouldn’t say OP, just hard. Sometimes I need to run the race 5 times to win it, I guess Sophy can be on a same level as A/S rated player in online lobby (I am balancing between A and A+).
@disast1ckup
@disast1ckup 12 күн бұрын
@@vvs6433 I mean op as in the cars the ai chooses are sometimes a bit mismatched. I’ll show up in an E-type & am racing against Lambos. But the challenge pushes you to be better I guess 😅
@brtcobra
@brtcobra 19 күн бұрын
once you pass a car on ACC it just gives up and backs off out of sight. terrible A.I
@snippidippi
@snippidippi 15 күн бұрын
And sometimes it just steers right into you and crash you out or making insane braking just in front of you so you smack up into ai. And kunos "fantastic" SA system there you take the penalty for everyone's fault makes this even better 😅😅
@suley1990
@suley1990 18 күн бұрын
Best AI - definitely AMS2, that is my go to sim offline. Online ACC but it has horrible AI very track depending, sometimes AI is raceble at best but there is no fun in this. Heard iracing AI is good but I don't consider iracing a sim worth sinking into as it doesn't simulate tires properly at all.
@slatanek
@slatanek 18 күн бұрын
AI in LMU actually has 3 settings - skill, aggression and spread. So you can actually set what's the percentage difference between the best and the worst AI driver. Good video for the introverts among us though 👍🏻
@hainako8
@hainako8 19 күн бұрын
iracing ai is really good
@OverTake_gg
@OverTake_gg 19 күн бұрын
Which is surprising considering the nature of their service! -Michel
@Stfguac
@Stfguac 18 күн бұрын
Yeah, shame you've got to pay a subscription to use it
@saffaboy2007
@saffaboy2007 18 күн бұрын
​@@Stfguacthat's a positive about it. Keeps the kids away.
@greatscot04
@greatscot04 18 күн бұрын
@@saffaboy2007 What does that have to do with racing against AI?
@saffaboy2007
@saffaboy2007 18 күн бұрын
@@greatscot04 wut
@MechaKajun
@MechaKajun 12 күн бұрын
Despite having a very expensive sim racing rig and being what i would consider at least above average at driving in sims i prefer AI because although accidents happen i feel really awful when i get into an accident with another player even if it's their fault so i just keep to myself or with groups i normally play with. As for AI i have yet to race against anything that comes close to matching Sophy (GT7's AI)
@joemendel3873
@joemendel3873 18 күн бұрын
I guess I am just a lucky PC owner. I have not had an issue getting any of these titles to work properly, excluding GT7 which I do not own. The hate towards LMU kind of shocks me, I find this to be a very good title and I think the AI in this game is quite good. I imagine that if LMU gets the opportunity to be a finished product, it will be a must have piece of software. At the age of 75, people do not need a senior simmer like myself driving in on-line races with my turn signal on through out a race, so I race off-line vs. the AI exclusively. I would like to see all games put more emphasis towards a real active AI, but that is just the rantings of an old man. Your articles was a fair look at the different titles, I just wish you had not come head on into configuration issues, that most likely shaped your opinions.
@PITAH1
@PITAH1 13 күн бұрын
75 and racing, this is so cool. Have you tried Automobilista 2? The AI is good.
@joemendel3873
@joemendel3873 7 күн бұрын
@@PITAH1 I use AMB2 all the time. Lots of fun and the day/night and weather is as good as any other title I have seen.
@PITAH1
@PITAH1 7 күн бұрын
@@joemendel3873 you are awesome man. I am 40 and I will probably do the same as you. I will use my sim rig for many many years.
@ericdanielski4802
@ericdanielski4802 19 күн бұрын
Nice comparison.
@kpingvin
@kpingvin 5 күн бұрын
I'm generally happy with AMS2's AI although they sometimes move under braking erratically. Like once I was pushed off in T4 in Interlagos. It also kinda has the 1 slow corner-1 fast corner problem on most tracks but it's not too bad. On the other hand, I like that they seem to drive realistically.
@khalidadisa2786
@khalidadisa2786 18 күн бұрын
You can also have custom ai files in Ams2, very usefeul if youre doing a formula season. Makes each car on the grid drive differently and better simulate the drivers you wouldve been going against
@Nastynati0513
@Nastynati0513 19 күн бұрын
Ams2 has the best feel for me when it comes to close racing with AI. LMU is a lot of fun for that, too, but unfortunately, there's not as much content as ams2 has yet.
@jz2811
@jz2811 19 күн бұрын
agree
@sebq998
@sebq998 18 күн бұрын
AMS 2 ? U mean AI crashing into u all the time when trying to overtake you in impossible places and u even can't avoid it when you know its coming...
@Wyn3e
@Wyn3e 17 күн бұрын
@@sebq998 sounds like a hard skill issue
@sebq998
@sebq998 17 күн бұрын
@@Wyn3e skill issues ?? When AI tries to pass me at immpossible and not logic places because of their unreal physics while driving ie. Sauber c9 flat out at "Bunreville" or racing Indy at Indianapolis when u cannot correct your race line... its jus reckless AI driving.. not sklii issues.
@Wyn3e
@Wyn3e 17 күн бұрын
@@sebq998 seeing how everyone is loving AMS2 AI including myself... it's a 100% skill issue
@RealLagoose
@RealLagoose 19 күн бұрын
I almost only race against AI because when I have time to go onto the simulator I want to choose a track and car combo. Have all the sims (for PC) and think all have their pros/cons with graphics, ffb, immersion, etc. So for me there is no one is better, it really depends on what I am going for on a specific day. Speaking only AI as this video is about that 😅 I find Iracing to be the best and the O.G AC to be the worst in terms of racing the AI. But do agree with you on the points you mention Thank you for this great video 🎉
@LTLGamer1
@LTLGamer1 5 күн бұрын
In Assetto Corsa, the AI can be alien fast, even beating world records during races.
@johnstonge5650
@johnstonge5650 22 сағат бұрын
Non-racing AI criticism: On ACC the AI can't even line up in the last section formation without the AI cars crashing before the start (20+ cars). Load up Laguna Seca, Indianapolis, etc. and it sometimes takes 5 times just to start the race.
@stormsurgeesports
@stormsurgeesports 19 күн бұрын
I love iRacing AI and how much you can customize, but do agree with you about iRacing having a difficult setup. I guess it's trade off for how much you can do with iRacing AI, but they definitely need to come up with a better UI layout for it.
@wife9571
@wife9571 7 күн бұрын
emily always has the best video ideas 🔥🔥
@RyanBecker
@RyanBecker 7 күн бұрын
I would find it interesting to compare side-by-side footage to actual online races as comparison, but as a fun April Fools' video or maybe just an interesting video on its own would be to compare different sims' online racing the same way we would compare AI. I find it interesting how harshly some people judge AI for what is often a MUCH cleaner race than anything I experience racing online in something like iRacing or an ACC public lobby. I find racing against AI to be a great, low pressure way to become familiar with a track layout, too (just adapting break point references later). It's always helpful to have another car to follow.
@gabor-toth
@gabor-toth 19 күн бұрын
I enjoy the AI in ACC very much. Especially how the lapped cars get out of the way, they know and respect rules while also race each other. It's a realistic, lively feeling going against them. You left out Forza Motorsport though, love to hear your opinion. 🤣
@zbeen-ah-lah
@zbeen-ah-lah 8 күн бұрын
bad ai isn’t limited to racing sims or games, because getting the DCS World AI to do what you want them to do can be a real chore sometimes
@CSTBFO_jad
@CSTBFO_jad 10 күн бұрын
I've been racing against Sophy on a daily basis since the release of Sophy 2.0, and I've made some interesting observations. To truly get the best experience and challenge, it's essential to use stock road cars straight from the showroom floor. This is where Sophy really shines, making the races much more engaging and competitive, especially when aiming for the Clean Race Bonus. I highly recommend trying out a stock Porsche 911 Carrera RS Club Sport (993) '95 at Tsukuba. The racing experience is excellent if you maintain clean driving. However, be mindful of the race etiquette rules. If you break them, Sophy will respond in kind, which adds an extra layer of realism and challenge to the race. Happy racing!
@ShawnHinck
@ShawnHinck 18 күн бұрын
The problem I’ve had with LMU is when you’re passing say a GTE car in a hyper car the AI will defend like you’re passing them for a place. Even on straights when there’s no reason for them to move over as you’re lapping them to defend
@jasonmadinya7759
@jasonmadinya7759 19 күн бұрын
i always tell myself ill run some ai races in iracing to prepare but i never do, i just jump into the online races
@robertthurman9866
@robertthurman9866 18 күн бұрын
AI has always been a pain. As you noted even in the same sim different classes can vary a lot at the same track. But at least even the worst AI is more consistent than what you get racing online against other people! 😃
@abecede4389
@abecede4389 19 күн бұрын
Too bad that RF2 wasn't in the test. I had loads of fun with it on Riverside International Raceway in sports cars from the 60s with semi-aggressive AI at 100%. To me, the AI behaved almost human like.
@DobieMeltfire
@DobieMeltfire 19 күн бұрын
Yeah I remember having a lot of fun with RF2 AI, sometimes they would occasionally make mistakes too.
@JCDenton2000
@JCDenton2000 18 күн бұрын
I've always had great experiences with both RF1 and RF2's AI. As long as you set the skill level high enough its a good challenge.
@givemeajackson
@givemeajackson 18 күн бұрын
on your F1 adaptability footage: to be fair, that was magnussen...
@kaiying74
@kaiying74 19 күн бұрын
Oh wow...Le Mans Ultimate is broken....what a shock... I like the emoji gameplay feature in GT7 to give you feedback on the AI's attitude.
@orionexplorer
@orionexplorer 17 күн бұрын
I have not used all of the titles listed but I have raced all of the SimBin titles before Race Room took them over (GTR, GTR2, Race07, & GTL). I also have AC & ACC, pCars 1 & 2, rFactor 1 & 2, and AMS 1. The best overall experience that I have had though is iRacing. Be it racing online, AI, or Time Trials (which I do most of the time). The AI is VERY hard to get right but it will also go down to my level of racing which is towards the back (Division 8 or 9), this will at least give me a more positive result instead of trying not to be dead last.
@newnagasaki
@newnagasaki 18 күн бұрын
Feel like Sophy in Gt7 is a demo version of it. They probably will release a fuller version of it later in the games lifespan or in Gt8. where you can customize it or use it to do a few stints in a long race.
@Vellano43
@Vellano43 14 күн бұрын
I know Forza gets a lot of heat but since the many updates the AI has gotten a lot better and with the inclusion of endurance races the racing actually is miles better than when the game initially came out
@DextrousWeevil
@DextrousWeevil 14 күн бұрын
Looking forward to see how AC Evo Ai work myself. Hopefully better than a lot of LFM drivers do.
@PedroReiis
@PedroReiis 18 күн бұрын
If I had to play F1 24 my eye would also twitch like 1:16, ahahah, but interesting video, for me R3E AI is the go to for some offline racing!
@DumberoniTV
@DumberoniTV 15 күн бұрын
Yep, F1 24 ai is awesome, with the cars never running out of ERS and constantly using it, and getting beaten by Haas in a straight line speed. They are also basically stuck to the racing line, so if you dare to go for an inside overtake going into a corner, they will just turn into you. Mhm.
@FurryestX
@FurryestX 6 күн бұрын
When you can play against Sophy, its PEAK AI But PS4 still waiting for it for some reason nobody understands, since the SOPHY files are also inside the ps4 version
@DjFIL007
@DjFIL007 17 күн бұрын
Yay single player getting some love in mainstream sim racing videos! Thank you! I don't have the consoles, so GT7 I've never tested but always heard good things about Sophy, sucks to hear it's in limited content/modes/etc. LMU doesn't count for similar reasons in my books, because you currently can't do more than a single race weekend (same issue in rFactor 2). AMS2 has been my go to for single player experience, mostly because how it's fairly easy to build your own custom championships (AC has this too, but never liked their AI or the overall feel). On the side note... I'm a big dirt oval fan, so if/when iRacing adds AI to their dirt oval content I'll renew my iRacing subscription and happily go between AI racing and when I have time/focus/energy do some online there too. Because for dirt oval fans, we have basically zero other modern sim options on PC (and they don't seem to be interested to release World of Outlaws on PC)
@OmerSaidtr
@OmerSaidtr 16 күн бұрын
I've never enjoyed racing against AI as much as in Grand Prix 4. Unpredictability, fighting side-by-side. Out-braking. They were doing everything.
@nicholasmotz834
@nicholasmotz834 15 күн бұрын
Yeah GT7's Sophie ai is really good. For me though iRacing takes the cake on this one. I've made my own career mode with it. The amount of customization and randomness through a 10 race season, like not the same driver winning each race, mistakes, and liveries on trading paints makes it so good imo
@pedrovitorino3620
@pedrovitorino3620 19 күн бұрын
Hi! Love the video! What's the tracks on 12.47 minute (open Wheel cars)
@bunny2919
@bunny2919 5 күн бұрын
Modded Assetto Corsa has improved AI (not acc) as of a couple of patches ago. You have to adjust a lot of things, but only once. In some classes they’re quite slow and drive kind of funny. But in other classes they are very good (gt3 for example)
@fataldragon69
@fataldragon69 17 күн бұрын
@Overtake_gg.....Great video but I was wondering what your opinion is when comparing f1'23 to F1'24, which do you think is better and prefer to play !?!?
@flokamm98
@flokamm98 10 күн бұрын
AI in iRacing does use DRS and ERS in multiple cars.
@boijorzee
@boijorzee 19 күн бұрын
AMS 2 AI is very dependent on the track but when it all clicks it's really good. In multi class raced it does not really work though.
@hMint
@hMint 19 күн бұрын
yeah, ams2 ai is really hit or miss depending on the track, on suzuka they basically always take to the grass on turn 1 when you're side by side and they take your position since they still have grip on grass (lol ai physics), when it works it's pretty good but the usual ai shenanigens are fairly common in this game still.
@CrystalPink29
@CrystalPink29 16 күн бұрын
The best AI for me is whit no doubt Raceroom, because the realistic behavior, and GT sophy is fast but it can´t overtake in certain circumstances and is really predictive.
@stefanomacchi1977
@stefanomacchi1977 18 күн бұрын
AMS2 is my choice for serious racing, but for a relaxing time i use F1 24.
@yamed77
@yamed77 16 күн бұрын
Since I raced online with others, I never raced with AI again.
@stevemichael9576
@stevemichael9576 18 күн бұрын
It's tough to say really. From my experience AMS2 and Raceroom are the standouts. I have not played iracing or GT7 single player races so cannot comment on those. ACC AI are quite passive and easy to navigate. The most fun and challenge I've had are for sure AMS2 and Raceroom.
@motelghost477
@motelghost477 16 күн бұрын
Overtake just ain't the same as RaceDepartment.
@rickthomas9894
@rickthomas9894 9 күн бұрын
Hi Emree This is much appreciated. I'm trying to become a better (safer, more consistent, faster) driver and pretty much only race the AI. I race with them set in the mid to low 90s and find them tough to beat. Mostly due to me making one bad mistake and then I go to last and start to work my way up. I'm enjoying it, and not ruining anyone's race. I noticed some AI improvement down loads on Overtake for ACC. Most of them say something like, improved lanes for this or that circuit. Any chance you could review some of those? Are they really helpful?
@mcgc3430
@mcgc3430 19 күн бұрын
thank you Emily, you are the best!
@andychicago8295
@andychicago8295 17 күн бұрын
For me, it´s iRacing. I prefer AI, because you can restart the race whenever you want. 😀
@UncoolJim
@UncoolJim 18 күн бұрын
I think iRacings AI is the best. I regulary use it to train for races and i sometimes forget its AI im racing. The difficulty band is amazing if you dont know what pace you have at a particular circuit
@Mancave_Racecar
@Mancave_Racecar 18 күн бұрын
iRacing’s AI is pretty weird. I actually was just doing some AI GT3 racing at Bathurst. Turns 4-9, they’re so slow. They’re pretty good through the esses but they always rocket out of Forrest’s Elbow. The AI seems to always brake early. Sometimes they’re slow on the straights, sometimes they’re weirdly fast. If you’re behind them at Eau Rouge, they’re slow, but if you’re in front of them, they’ll hang on to you no problem. If you make a pass on the AI the completely back off. They may catch up and fight with you later but they always fall back on the pass. It’s pretty difficult for me to get a consistent AI race out of iRacing.
@RalonsoF1
@RalonsoF1 16 күн бұрын
Bravo! I personally prefer Automobilista 2 above all the rest! And still, the 1.6 update has to come! So...
@tenmamut
@tenmamut 12 күн бұрын
I found acc ai to be really good except the starts, I have to intentionally not overtake first view corners otherwise I will make up like 12 positions. Don't know if they are consistent because I'm not.
@WaskiLP
@WaskiLP 7 күн бұрын
The one sim where the AI is probably the most important is the one sim where it sucks the most😂
@larsleeson
@larsleeson 16 күн бұрын
ac can be decent. it depends on the car and track though. it does all of the right stuff if not too aggressive on 100
@PLAYER_42069
@PLAYER_42069 17 күн бұрын
Agree, Sophy AI is (currently) the best racing AI on the market. The only thing, however, is Sophy has become very aggressive, recently. It's divebombing and pit maneuvering me a lot more than when it released. I wonder if it's drawing from online data like the Drivatars supposedly did in the Forza, series? Regardless, the dynamic nature of Sophy's racecraft cannot be beat. I, like everybody else, hope it expands to more races and careers in future updates, and is the default AI in GT8, of course.
@moogleslam
@moogleslam 19 күн бұрын
I remember Race 07 AI being incredible. These days, I'd say iRacing wins for me.
@jonnysev
@jonnysev 17 күн бұрын
Original AC with CM and mods like for example RSS has a good AI I think, but my favourite is still AMS2 even though puddles don't exist for the AI. But why isn't Forza Motorsport, a love letter to motorsport, and its wonderful AI that learns from millions and millions of racers that play and will play it around the world, on this list? If F1 24 is on this list it could very well have been.
@THIS---GUY
@THIS---GUY 18 күн бұрын
sophy 1.0 - especially 1v1 - was incredible but the new 2.0 is way less competitive
@pricelessppp
@pricelessppp 17 күн бұрын
I can not get my wheel to work in ams2!😂
@jygamer2151
@jygamer2151 18 күн бұрын
Do any of the sims have the option to do endurance races with AI doing some stints for you?
@OverTake_gg
@OverTake_gg 18 күн бұрын
There is an option and key binding to hand over the car to the AI in rF2 and also LMU I believe. Not sure how good this would work for a full stint though! -Michel
@ming454
@ming454 16 күн бұрын
iRacing setup is easy, you just click all the buttons to see what they do and then do magic with it
@johnseyerle
@johnseyerle 18 күн бұрын
The potential of AI in iracing is the highest. They must have the most data to build AI behaviour from.
@RandyMagruder
@RandyMagruder 18 күн бұрын
For me LMU and AMS 2 are the best AI to race against
@JB22.
@JB22. 19 күн бұрын
Imo f1 has always had the best ai, the ai defend properly although some previous entries have had slightly better balance and closer to a player. this year is weaker than previous versions of the f1 ai with my favourite being 2019. Acc also has decent ai imo
@zKaltern
@zKaltern 13 күн бұрын
I find the AI in iRacing to be horrific, they just try and divebomb you on pretty much most corners, they have no track awareness at all, ... oh wait, no, that's Multiplayer...
@danloki78
@danloki78 12 күн бұрын
Ai im on console so we have sophy ai and f1s ai which are probably the best on ps5. F1 still has weird issues. Like running wel on slicks in wet😅😅
@simmadpaul2880
@simmadpaul2880 19 күн бұрын
The first question is Is it really AI? Eg a learning model. If say iRacing had real AI it has a massive amount of user data to learn from. Sadly when we say AI its more accurately computer controlled. Maybe with AI models becoming more accessible we may get real AI. Am I wrong in assuming its not real machine learning AI?
@siryeehaw9291
@siryeehaw9291 19 күн бұрын
Unless explicitly stated AI in video games aren't a product machine learning. The term AI has been used in video games before deep learning algorithms were a thing, so it's not like video game companies are intentionally misleading their audiences by using the term.
@Xerxes1337
@Xerxes1337 18 күн бұрын
'AI' in video games has a different meaning, long before modern LLM's, which aren't real AI either.
@virtualawakening2299
@virtualawakening2299 18 күн бұрын
If you do GT7, you have to do Forza Motorsports too. I'd like to know which of these two has the worse AI. I don't have a PS so I haven't played GT7, but FM's AI is pretty bad compared to the hardcore sims you rated.
@lomicwind
@lomicwind 18 күн бұрын
Obviously not GT7. But let's watch the video, may be there is worse 😅 [Edit] agree with you... Sophy is barely a demo very limited in terms of gameplay options. But it is weird, on some events AI is extremely dumb, and on others it can be decent. In the end the most fun I have in GT7 is to race against friends in a lobby.
@nfapeng187
@nfapeng187 7 күн бұрын
All I race is AI, asseto and them i dont understand how you play properly. Automobilista2, also. But i use race life addon
@talbithierry1200
@talbithierry1200 3 күн бұрын
Hi, for me rfactor2 have best ia. Agressivité et level max So really good
@denesk2794
@denesk2794 19 күн бұрын
While I like LMU a lot, I think the AI is horrible. It completely ignores where you are, Hypercars are ridiculously slow in corners, at the same time they would just crash you regardless of what "lane" you are in next to them . I think wheel-to-wheel racing is the most fun in ACC, so much that I would enjoy not even overtaking, just sticking behind 2 cars and see them battle out. In Automobilista 2, there is this weird "train effect" when 2 cars move almost as if they were stuck together. Not in the cool "slipstream way", but literally just running the exact same truck without the smallest deviation. It is a very immersion breaking sight. In iRacing the same level is very inconsistent. I get smoked on Sebring by the same AI I can beat by +1 lap on Watkins Glen.
@terenceramroop
@terenceramroop 19 күн бұрын
I been playing single player racing games for a long time. Best AI I've raced against...Project Cars 1, Project Cars 2 followed by ACC. I am a huge F1 fan, but the codies games are bad.
@nighttrain1565
@nighttrain1565 18 күн бұрын
Sophi is like on an entirely different level but you can't really do much with it. It's a shame. Maybe hints of what's to come.. nobody has any idea what polyphony is doing because they sure as hell are not paying attention to the online racing. Nobody at polyphony cares or is even paying attention to Gran Turismo 7. Who knows what they are doing.
@craigyirush3492
@craigyirush3492 18 күн бұрын
I’m surprised Sophy is slow. Recall you and other World Tour drivers struggling to beat Sophy in the beta release.
@OverTake_gg
@OverTake_gg 18 күн бұрын
They toned Sophy down for the public release. -Michel
@benjaminthomson
@benjaminthomson 18 күн бұрын
I liked this video but struggled to watch because of the flickering pink light
@OverTake_gg
@OverTake_gg 18 күн бұрын
Sorry to hear that! We have to figure out a better shutter speed with Emily :D -Michel
@burdineestep4224
@burdineestep4224 18 күн бұрын
dark green nails in honor of off tracks now and then only spurs the ai on.
@Eohtar
@Eohtar 18 күн бұрын
And now, just for laughs, let's score Forza Motorsport 2023 - the title with by far the worst AI I've ever seen!
@BeckMax
@BeckMax 18 күн бұрын
Le Mans Ultimate and rFactor 2 have the best AI in my opinion.
@onetripwonders
@onetripwonders 18 күн бұрын
AMS2 or Iracing for me.
@br4kecheckd
@br4kecheckd 19 күн бұрын
Simbin's old games like GTR2 eat these for breakfast if we're comparing AI.
@salgshaka4483
@salgshaka4483 4 күн бұрын
I hate the AI in kyalami ACC one corner they dont stop no matter where u are they will crash on you but other than that they all have their issues cause even AC has so many issues with AI
@killianlobato27
@killianlobato27 17 күн бұрын
RF2?
@niyazif1770
@niyazif1770 7 күн бұрын
I think lmu is also good
@CaptainPeanut
@CaptainPeanut 18 күн бұрын
F1 22 and AMS2 has by far the best AI. They actually "race" against you properly by both going for defensive and aggressive moves in places where it makes sense - and what is just as important is that they are capable of regularly making fairly realistic mistakes and don't just drive perfectly lap after lap after lap like in ACC for example.
@iM3j3n
@iM3j3n 2 күн бұрын
What abour rFactor2???
@Blownpistonmotorsport
@Blownpistonmotorsport 18 күн бұрын
We just ignoring the Forza Motorsport exists now? I mean don’t get me wrong it’s AI is absolute Dog Egg but would be nice to at least acknowledge its existence haha
@OverTake_gg
@OverTake_gg 18 күн бұрын
Many of us here we're really disappointed with FM, the bad AI, bad Nordschleife and unfulfilled promises are part of it. We might have to re-visit it after they have done a lot of updates! -Michel
@Blownpistonmotorsport
@Blownpistonmotorsport 18 күн бұрын
@@OverTake_gg Ah yes, the infamous Nurburgring trees… but to be serious i get what you are saying, and the AI is about as good as a cat flap on a submarine, but i do think you are doing quite a big dis-service to the racing community but not even giving it at least a “dishonourable” mention. I would hazard a guess that it has a larger regular user base than R3E yet that got a mention. I’m just saying you guys might not like it or enjoy it, but lots of people do and not including it kinda makes it feel like you are saying it’s not a real racing game. Trust me no one knows FM issues better than FM players, parts of it are beyond idiotic! BUT for some people it is the best they can do, FM is THE most cost effective way to get into sim racing, £300 console and £15 a month for the entire game pass library including FM and FMH, and you are basically discounting anyone who plays it as not playing a racing game?
@OverTake_gg
@OverTake_gg 18 күн бұрын
@@Blownpistonmotorsport We still include FM in our videos, last time here, we're it was included, but not RaceRoom. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oavSiHZ3aM-SkKs So it's not that we are ignoring it. In fact it will be in one of our next videos about a Moza R3 follow up about setup and compatabilty on Xbox. Thank you for your valid feedback!
@brentonedwards
@brentonedwards 19 күн бұрын
iRacing.
@ickschreiber3493
@ickschreiber3493 17 күн бұрын
I was playing moto gp 2020 today because of the sale, but the ai is pretty bad, they rear end me all the time
@MarcelDekker_fan
@MarcelDekker_fan 19 күн бұрын
They realy just skiped normal ac ai how 😓
@OverTake_gg
@OverTake_gg 19 күн бұрын
Do you think AC has a remarkable AI? -Michel
@coxroach1
@coxroach1 19 күн бұрын
@@OverTake_gg Its not the best, not the worst but is a game that is heavily played and set out a benchmark for others to grow from. I thought it would be there, especially with how much you can mod for AI if you want.
@flyingphoenix113
@flyingphoenix113 19 күн бұрын
Because the standard AC AI is absolutely braindead. This is why there are so many custom AI mods.
@larryhaines7109
@larryhaines7109 19 күн бұрын
"AI" in original AC actually stands for "Artificial Idiots".
@MarcelDekker_fan
@MarcelDekker_fan 19 күн бұрын
@@larryhaines7109 with mods its realy doable
@falc_4260
@falc_4260 18 күн бұрын
Gp4
@joshuadelorimier1619
@joshuadelorimier1619 10 күн бұрын
Iracing is hands down the best AI
@SRS13Rastus
@SRS13Rastus 18 күн бұрын
Gotta say I'm actually surprised there was no clear winner here, mostly as there's often huge bunfights as to which games AI is better (no surprises there tbh). So it's actually refreshing and surprising to see someone who does play them all (or most of them at least) say outright they're all pretty much the same. I only race AMS2 out of them all so can't comment on the other games. In fact the only other games I've played recently are FH5 (with it's rubberbanding AI) and Forza Motorsport with it's utterly incompetent AI. So bad I actually posted 2 vids of FM AI at max settings and AMS2 AI after someone in the forza forums suggested the FM AI was one of the best out there... When I linked the vid they immediately suggested "Yeah but it learns from the player and will improve over time..." That's NOT what we were lead to believe by Chris Esaki himself during their FM7/FM23 AI direct comparison who stated in no uncertain terms... "Forza's new AI is self trained and has completed 1000's and can use multiple racing lines at each track.." or at least that was the gist of the blurb he spouted, whilst showing it to be 13 seconds faster in a single lap at maple valley compared to FM7's unbeatable AI. You tell me does THIS look self trained??? kzbin.info/www/bejne/aX_PoXakecx8g80si=g-Zx7aSnKj3-KL_8 Even the highest difficulty AI couldn't even match real world GT3 laptimes in the GTE class, in fact the 2018 GT3 24 hours of spa fastest race lap was a 2:19.464. Plus only a handful of the AI cars in that race cars could beat the entire field of these GTE "max AI" drivers.... VS AMS2 AI at 100% and max aggression, and they'll go upto 120% kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3LOemugnbKapdUsi=t6cRt9527ey8bHrb Only the 3 slowest AI drivers were slower than the fastest 3 GT3 laptimes set in 2018... Back on topic though... I have tried raceroom but that was over a decade ago so would hardly be relevant comparing to the one game I'm playing just now. Regarding AMS2 though? I agree with the vast majority of your points, they're pretty good in most respects apart from their habit of braking far far too early, almost as if they're using the racing line braking zones which to me seem set for a wet race and the racing line doesn't change for a dry track. There is now a facility to create custom AI files with 15 parameters (17 including name and nationality) that can be adjusted with ranges from 0.001 to 1.000. Aside from nationality and name these are the adjustable options. Race skill Qualifying skill Aggression Defending Stamina Consistency Start reactions Wet skill Tyre management Fuel management Blue flag conceding Weather tyre changes Avoidance of mistakes Avoidance of forced mistakes Vehicle reliability As with iRacing there's options to just download other peoples custom AI files, from your own channels website no less lol. Not many to be had right now but that'll change over time. Sadly there's no in game method of adjusting all this like you showed the short sped up footage of the iRacing AI parameters. Creating your own custom AI file in AMS2 instead involves editing an XML file outside the game and a lot of testing if you want real world racing performances and laptimes when say, trying to recreate ultra accurate laptimes for the Shumacher or Senna F1 eras for example. I've heard GT7 fans raving about Sophy and I'm quite shocked at how limited it's use is. Though it does sound like what all games really SHOULD have from the outset..
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