Overtime: B.J. Novak, Catherine Rampell, Noah Rothman | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

[@jopo7996]

Touring the IRS for an entire day would be physically and mentally taxing.

[@Smyther663]

I just wanted you to know I appreciated the joke

[@terriej123]

I would love it.

[@kerrialexander4211]

Sounds like a museum tour…!

[@Mannydamon]

Your fans have arrived. 👍🏼🙃👁

[@eugene8402]

But you would get some knowledge out of it in return.

[@Son3002]

Bill: “these kids at the IRS” Guest: “it’s actually 60 year old ladies” 😂😂😂

[@terriej123]

Exactly. Glad that somebody heard it with Bill constantly interrupting her.

[@vforwombat9915]

@@terriej123 she tried too hard to say too much. she had good points but she was monopolizing he conversation.

[@ResilientWon]

Yeah, not the brightest.

[@terriej123]

@@vforwombat9915 because the stuff that she was saying isn’t easy to explain & she kept getting interrupted because so much of the info she was giving, contradicted Bill’s beliefs.

[@vforwombat9915]

@@terriej123 " she kept getting interrupted' sorry,let me expound. the format of the show is for quick explanations. for some reason, Bill's hour long show has LESS discussion than his old half hour ABC show did. he tries to move things along when the guests get wordy. plus she wasn't letting the guy get in anything. i'm not saying all this is her fault, i'm saying she wasn't sticking to the format of the show. i miss the old show. this seems to me to be a pale reflection of it. i felt she was victimized by that.

[@Jedizen07]

“I’m saying, I don’t think the problem is that the audiences are too sensitive. I think the problem is that people are worried that other people are too sensitive.”-BJ Novak ( on " cancel culture " in entertainment ). Quite possibly the greatest thing said in modern broadcast TV.

[@weignerleigner3037]

Really? I think there is truth about that but there is clearly lots of people out there that harass advertisers and companies to fire people. It happens at normal jobs nowadays. Bj ignoring that and you drinking it like koolaid is quite worrying.

[@Jedizen07]

@@weignerleigner3037 Working in the broadcast industry can be pretty insightful, in a way that most people outside of it can't see. I would say there is a " minority " of people ( as opposed to lots ) initiating all forms of entertainment gatekeeping ( or cancel culture ). As history proves, it only takes a minority to get the audiences riled up to go after something " offensive. " But, over time, audiences get tired of the " whining " about things and move on ( the PMRC saga is proof that once a small group of politicians got concerned about sexism/satanism in metal music, the audiences followed for only for a short time until they realized it was a joke ). In the last few weeks, several key #metoo players realized their mistakes ( recently, The New York Times columnist Michelle Goldberg, wrote a piece saying she was wrong to call on former Senator Al Franken to resign without a proper investigation-the effect of cancel culture, for example ). Complaining only lasts as long as the audiences follow. But, over time, these kind of " anti-entertainment " movements lose steam, as history proves. Remember the time when, after it was announced that Heath Ledger had been cast as The Joker in " The Dark Knight, " fans went nuts with complaints? Look at how THAT turned out. The audiences only go with what they're told, NOT what they KNOW ( this is why I don't believe the fault lies with audiences when it comes to complaints ). Recently, the FAIR Perspective podcast group had a group on to discuss why America seems to have become more " stupid " in the last few years. A researcher on the show stated that most audiences tend to follow " trends " to keep themselves entertained. As a result, they go along with the ride of discourse until it no longer seems fun. But, the main theory behind this statement was even more fascinating: For everything good in the world, there is something WRONG that CANNOT always be fixed. And, while going after the wrongs in life is challenging and noble pursuit, it's ( over a longer time period ) meaningless simply due to the fact that the good things in life EXIST BECAUSE the wrongs exists at the same time. I don't feel BJ was ignoring the fact there are people asking for boycotts in certain forms of entertainment. Quite the opposite. I felt he was telling audiences not to get riled up about things in entertainment which are simply that, entertainment. The Office had a TON of great easter eggs about the mannerisms of co-workers that I don't think were picked up by a lot of audiences. In fact, there is some deep psychological stuff on that show I picked up from my own co-worker experiences that only a few friends have ever complained about. In that manner, cancel culture has only one thing left to cancel: Itself.

[@weignerleigner3037]

@@Jedizen07 yeah I agree it’s certainly fizzling out and I do think it is a lot of the time industry that cancels itself. It’s probably people wanting other peoples jobs to be honest. But audience is definitely to blame too. We’re on KZbin there’s endless amounts of videos of dumb people getting upset at stupid things. Not to mention university students these days. Journalists too are a big issue too they will write bull crap articles and cause a reaction where the media dog piles on an individual. In the right wing sphere there’s a lot of canceling thru censorship Alex Jones is a good example of that people in general I talk to really hate the guy. I do live in ct and the sandy hook thing is a sensitive subject so I get why people don’t like Alex but I wouldn’t underestimate the power the audience has in cancel culture and censorship.

[@VidarrKerr]

If you are so sensitive that you are worried about other peoples' sensitivity, you pretty much are the most sensitive of all. No? How about we let people handle their own sensitivity? I have a friend in a wheelchair and something he hates more than anything, is when people act out on his behalf because they think he will be sensitive about something, someone else may say, or do (to him, or affect him). They treat him as if he is a weak person that cannot act on his own. I wouldn't want people censoring my environment for someone else's perceived notion of what they think I am sensitive to either. (The exception to this is children, of course.) Another example of this is "LatinX". I live in South America and can say with some authority, no Latinos want to be referred to as "LatinX". They don't need, or even want, white folks in the USA making up names for them and undermining their language and culture. Leave people alone. When you are perfect, then maybe, but probably not, you can start your social engineering projects.

[@VidarrKerr]

@@Jedizen07 "In that manner, cancel culture has only one thing left to cancel: Itself." Yes. 100%.

[@rickybobby7986]

Groundbreaking Bill.... Amazing. Please just go away!

[@georgefairfield7519]

Thank you for having Catherine Rampell on the show! Her reflection of the IRS was so true and valuable. Unfortunately, the citizens of the United States do not understand the value and importance of the IRS and the services which it performs.

[@jimmlygoodness]

Agree. She is spot on about how antiquated our government's methods are for doing almost anything. We need a total upgrade of technology, at the IRS and everywhere else. But voters only care about what they think will benefit them personally over the next year.

[@kingmarx810]

I too agree.The IRS and other government agencies have hobbled so powerful nefarious players can get away without paying. Taxes if spent wisely should benefit society.

[@paladro]

@@jimmlygoodness it could have something to do with geriatric polticians refusing to leave or pass the baton, for 3-4 decades... old politicians crying about ageism,while having age restrictions for their very seat is laughable and speaks volumes about the baked in corruption. did you really think a 'superpower' would play fair or nice, at home or abroad?

[@jimmlygoodness]

@@paladro That's why I'm for term limits.

[@kevinrenauer9077]

I just didn't think she made much of a contribution to the show tonight. A lot of double-talk.

[@Mr_M_History]

Classic non-committal Ryan not giving his verdict on the question!

[@stevenarnold5151]

You use so much Office in your history videos!

[@jammcguire1276]

Its a chicken shit answer. Country or Trump is a pretty clear cut question!

[@sandraclark2235]

As a hillbilly native, I wish to assert that the depiction of rural life on programs such as "Green Acres" was woefully inaccurate. I lived in east Tennessee with my grandparents in the 1950's. My grandpa plowed with a mule, planted, hoed, and harvested almost everything we ate. My grandmother fed the chickens, gathered the eggs, milked the cow every day, churned butter, cooked the meals on a wood stove, washed with a wringer washer (with minimal electricity), hung the clothes on the clothesline, ironed with the old-fashioned iron that was heated on the stove, saved worn-out clothing scraps to make quilts, and many other things I can't even remember. The Sears Roebuck catalog was our "toilet paper" in the outdoor privy. My parents entirely rejected that life of endless toil and moved to Ohio where my dad (with his 6th-grade "education") worked in construction until he got a Civil Service job. Life got ridiculously luxurious (to me) after I left my grandparents and lived in Ohio.

[@kentmccoy592]

You couldn't get a decent job today with a sixth grade education

[@dentonfender6492]

Those were the good ole days when labor was in demand in the USA, before the rich plotted against all the progressive measures that came out of FDR's administration, and turned the clock back to the 19th century when the working class was totally on their own. Life was hard as you described about your grandparents, but at least they had land, but when they moved off the land to Ohio, demand for labor was high, luckily for them. Today, they would be in deep sh*t especially if they didn't make much money from their land they sold. My grandparents told me similar stories about farming in Minnesota. During the depression of the 30's, the rich were still rich enough to buy up land at bargain basement prices from desperate people such as my grandparents that made the already rich even richer.

[@wookinooki9023]

@@dentonfender6492 to the 19th century, when the population was 1/8th of what it is today, same goes for farm land total area, urban sprawl, almost no roads, industrial production, and there was 100 times more water...

[@rainmon]

but you gotta lov the them song: Green Acres is the place to be: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q562ZIuDaN10hs0

[@nevalans9524]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@McCrapweasel]

It shatters my brain to think that anyone thinks we need more people.

[@lakersfansince1991]

Everyone that thinks we have too many people should lead by example. Don’t have kids and off yourselves.

[@McCrapweasel]

@@lakersfansince1991 Done, or not done, on the first point.

[@wombat5252]

It shatters my mind that people are so brainwashed like you. This planet can easily hold more than 40 billion people. We aren't even close. You're being brainwashed by the group that WANT population control. They want abortions all across the board. That's their goal. F that, I'd rather live and keep this human population going. I'd rather fight for my survival. I'd rather have my freedoms than to have to be controlled by authoritarians dictating my life.

[@jefflitt1282]

When did the spontaneous reaction to an amusing joke become raucous hooting and whooping?

[@lalah9481]

Desalinization can actually kill our coastline. Where do you think they pump the extra salty crap once it’s taken out of the drinking water?

[@boscomaronie]

Real Time with Bill Mayer, Should be called Real Interuptions with Bill Mayer, Do a Shot every time he interrupts his guests LOL

[@svalbard01]

"Ryan started the fire! It was always burning since the world's been turning. RY-AN started the FI-RE!"

[@DarylBark]

"Values"?!?! He outed every Republican when he called people "Economic Units"!!! That sums up their "Values", and that is that everything and everyone has a "value" and that it is determined by your "Net "Worth" as an "Economic Unit"! Their motto, "screw the Environment, screw the people, how do we make MORE MONEY!!" Values? What Values?!?!

[@andersandersen6295]

We are economic units, like it or not, some contribute more, some less, our system works on most of us paying/doing our share.

[@DarylBark]

@@andersandersen6295 Well in case you haven't noticed our "System" is not "working", it's broken.. If we would have spent the last few Centuries encouraging and nurturing people's real worth we would have solved homelessness, poverty and Health Care issues by now and we would probably have a thriving colony on Mars. Organized Religions, corrupt Governments, and Capitalist greed have us moving backwards or standing still most of the time. Competing against each other is only squandering our resources and will only lead to our self destruction. Just look at what happened to the Ottoman Empire, it's a perfect example of wasted potential.

[@BishopWalters12]

What values do the Dems have little buddy?

[@Circleofdxxdcx]

They were complaining about gas prices and inflation and now the Biden is working on a plan to reduce it They still complain and trash Biden

[@BishopWalters12]

@@Circleofdxxdcx Biden did lie by saying it was because of Russia and he won't acknowledge that a recession is going on. Why does Joey deserve credit?

[@g.t.phillips7759]

With everything going on with the water crisis in the west and elsewhere, I have never been more content living in Michigan where I am surrounded by fresh water lakes.

[@Galactis1]

Me too, I'm in northern Ohio. We are completely safe from natural disasters of any kind. And we have water for days. We're good.

[@g.t.phillips7759]

@@Galactis1 we’re lucky as hell lol. Born in the right spot I guess

[@4urluvjones155]

Yep, same for me here in Minnesota.

[@jimmlygoodness]

@@Galactis1 I'm in southern Ohio. We do get tornadoes once in awhile but for some reason they usually hit Xenia.

[@jspanos500]

Grew up in Michigan on Lake Huron and now live in Chicago on Lake Michigan. I feel double safe from the pending water crisis.

[@nickfalzone7955]

Great to see Fred Savage back on tv

[@Intangible_Jack]

Well damn, expected to scroll the comments way farther down, nice one.

[@ljss6805]

To all those complaining that the reservoir levels are low because we made huge cities in the desert, I hope you're talking of huge almond cities in the desert, because those alone use more water than the entire population of California combined.

[@direwolf6234]

a single sheet of regular paper uses more water than an almond ...

[@ryancappo]

We can pipe oil across the continent, yet we can’t control the end of the Mississippi River to prevent millions of gallons of fresh water from going into the ocean. And then we can’t pipe water to the West? Where an accidental spill wouldn’t be that big of a deal? Where it can be converted into steam along the way to move it higher? We solved the population problem by growing food year round in places that wasn’t easy to transport it across the country bin the past, but we can’t live without food grown in California, Texas, or Arizona, no matter the water they need.

[@ljss6805]

@@direwolf6234 Nah dawg, not even close. It takes 6 gallons of water to make one pound of paper and 1,900 gallons of water to grow a pound of almonds.

[@SantaBarbaraBiking]

We need to stop farming almonds.

[@andersandersen6295]

Where does the water go? does it go to space or stay on our little planet? if it does not go into space, then it will be somewhere on the planet.

[@hoytoy100]

The problem with neutral or shrinking populations is that capitalism is built on expanding markets and sales.

[@AyeCarumba221]

Yes well Capitalism based on expansion is not sustainable. So we’re gonna have to figure out how to have Capitalism without expansion.

[@pauls.1166]

So, I'd never heard of Noah Rothman before. I miss that time in my life.

[@ShrimplyPibblesJr]

Did he say they aren’t making many comedies? Atlanta, Barry, What We Do in the Shadows? Don’t blame the people who protest. Blame the institutions that have no balls.

[@JoniAntonio]

The IRS should be cutting edge, that way refunds are processed quickly and it gives them a better view of who is skipping out on their taxes.

[@tammyjohnson1927]

If and when that happens expect a BOOM of bad taxes owed and jail time.

[@bbirda1287]

Nothing about the government is cutting edge. The world's most expensive military is still using hardware mostly from 20 to 30 years ago because it takes 10 years to bring in a new system. Actually, the banking international money transfer system was until a few years ago written in COBOL, a programming language from the 1950's, I don't know if that's still true.

[@stud6414]

Ya, no.

[@johnbeechy]

it is time for a national / State "I paid my taxes" ID Card and every yr a new sticker is sent out to be placed upon the back of the Card // IF any person does not possess their current sticker, they can not show off outside with any amendment Rts. Historical precedent: President GW"s decision to send the army with cannons to arrest the Whiskey Rebels for firing their muskets prior to paying their due taxes. but under that precedent, all amendment Rts would be suspended until the taxes r paid. // a National " RENDERED on to Caesar", or " i honored the white authored words of Article 1 S 8 P1 of the Constitution" Card/ // God Bless the Minute Men that have hunted down so many non readers of the Article 1 S 8 P1 & 4 showing no mercy to the inferior non reading KIN. no charges have been filed and not one Minute Man shall ever go to jail for Purging and Purifying the land of the dumb white

[@deborahfreedman333]

@@bbirda1287 I don't know about now, but in 2000, they were all still using COBOL, hence the Y2K problem. What most people don't realize is, although a lot of the code was in COBOL, by the 1970s, banks realized that was good enough for batch processing, but would not work for transactional processing. All that code, such as automatic tellers, wire transfers, data entry systems, and bank terminal systems, was written in assembly language, an even more baroque code, that few programmers, at any bank, could master. When I worked at SPNB, in the 1980s, there were only six of us writing and maintaining all the assembly language code.

[@edwin2600]

How could Bill have forgot "The Dukes of Hazard?"

[@srkh8966]

That’s a Gen X show; he was too old to watch it

[@rauserbegins5850]

@@srkh8966 Yep, I was just going to say that. Dukes was an 80s show; Bill was talking about 60s-70s shows. 🙂

[@zoobrizz]

Who cares?🤡☝️

[@srkh8966]

@@zoobrizz The people who choose to comment care

[@JDubyax2]

The conceit that "we solved the population issue with technology in the 70s" is just such a foolish one. Bill is spot on (even if he can't articulate it) about there being a hard finite limit to resources on the planet (including the biosphere itself) and that being fundamentally incompatible with the ideas of infinite growth (both economically and population). The Green Revolution won't matter much if the land is fallow, rivers are dry and the temperatures are too high. You cannot look to the past to determine future results, especially when the future will be fundamentally different than in any point in human history. Just foolish.

[@aidanmargarson8910]

Well carrying capacity is a actual thing

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

That is why mercantilism is the better concept than pure capitalism. Money doesn't grow indefinitely.

[@hass556]

No, Technology is the solution. Sure the earth has finite resources but so what? You act as though the earth is the only planet in the universe. If we invested money into figuring out space travel, in the next couple hundred years the population problem is forever solved. Resources are effectively infinite if you increase your scope a little

[@andiman45]

@@hass556 how long have we known about climate change yet we are burning every last barrel we can squeeze and profit from this planet. Sorry to say but greed wins everytime...Desalination is great in a tiny country like Israel but the amount of water consumption just for farming, cattle and industry is mind boggling. Our only short term hope is diverting water from pacific northwest and canada

[@sjpconnor]

@@hass556 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣

[@svalbard01]

The older BJ Novak and Fred Savage get, the more they are on a collision course to become the same person.

[@michael-4k4000]

Ok BUD!

[@adderon]

Savage BJ. I'll see myself out...no? You want me to stay solely based on the title ok then

[@anneb889]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@grahamstrouse1165]

They’re different people? I thought it was one guy with two names.

[@markhammond7452]

More drinkable water is a great idea. Less Kentucky Bluegrass in arid places is greater. The notion that low-flow toilets and showers are a burden to the wealthy is Narcissism.

[@TheRealMattPuckett]

Bill please kick out/ fire the guy that yells woo after every joke.

[@dentonfender6492]

I agree with you Bill, 100% that we have a population problem--- too many on a finite planet of resources. This summers crops in many countries are dying because there is not enough water. Here in the west in the USA, we are in a drought where, the Colorado River, and Lake Mead are very low. China's Yangtze River, and Lakes are extremely low. Europe's Rhine River is dangerously low. Many other parts of the world are suffering varying degrees of drought.

[@lp9092]

Yeah. I live north of you in bc, Canada.. and we’ve had insane fires and floods here the past 5 years. Towns have burned down, major highways washed away. It’s nuts.

[@Brian-gf8xh]

Look at India and China, worlds that have one of the biggest populations in the world... The population needs to be regulated to a certain extent. If we cannot support that population that may lead to poverty. I dare not bring a child into the world without a future, I feel 95% of people do not do that. Imagine a child without an education, what choice do they have when they have to worry about food every day? It's hell on earth regarding that scenario. People survive sure, but the majority? Not everyone should be the "genius" schools asked them to be, reality asks for a bachelor to be even applicable to most positions. This can go on and on but alot of factors are at play in my opinion.

[@dewmonstermash]

@@lp9092 its called climate change

[@kerrialexander4211]

Add Italy’s Po River, just read an article about it being low and major crop failures there, too.

[@mathurex211]

This planet isn't anywhere close to having "too many people", whatever you mean by that. The scientific estimates are all over the place, mostly much higher than our current 7.75 billion. And a plurality of those will die in the next decades, not to be replaced. Stop making grand assumptions that justify bad decisions.

[@DavidTerrazas]

Bill really gets bent when people don't recall or enjoy shows from his childhood. Does it on Club Random too. It's ok Bill. You're old. It happens =D

[@ChatsWithChris]

Right it’s actually pathetic

[@pikebishop8516]

@@ChatsWithChris I came for the rushdie debate,i stopped to watch this show several years ago. The intro is corny, the guests are corny, and Bill didn't evolve. Sad, the grumpy old man of TV network.

[@kennethdower7425]

@@pikebishop8516 Your "comment" is very grumpy, you nitwit.

[@Helper800]

@@pikebishop8516 You should start a show, I would be curious as to what you would do to make it great or otherwise.

[@pikebishop8516]

@@Helper800 Oh I wouldn't bet on that! But Bill was a beast 20 years ago, and not the corporate lawyer of today's establishment! More problematic, he knows it all.

[@Kermit_T_Frog]

Alcoholic beverages are heavily taxed in Japan, so yes, the government wants people to drink. Alcoholism is rare in Japan, or so it is said. Though there is so much drinking one wonders how they can tell.

[@TheStobe84]

Wrong. They DON'T want people to drink. Tobacco is taxed to hell in Finland, one pack of cigarettes is around 9-13 dollars now. They did that so people wouldn't smoke, and to cover the healthcare costs that tobacco causes. You are thinking the government as a business. That is exactly the wrong way to see the government. Country isn't a company, it isn't a business.

[@Kermit_T_Frog]

@@TheStobe84 Did you even listen to the clip? According to Maher, the Japanese government is urging young Japanese to drink MORE.

[@andregreen8040]

@@TheStobe84 $9/$13 for a packet of cigarettes ? Here in Australia a packet of 25 cigarettes costs around $40/$45.

[@TheStobe84]

@@andregreen8040 Woah, fuck me. Really? Why and how?

[@andregreen8040]

@@TheStobe84 To stop people from smoking. Of course the $40 tax revenue the government collects on a $45 packet doesn’t influence their reasoning. Wink Wink 😂

[@nineiron1481]

If you don't want the IRS on tour back, file your taxes and don't cheat!!

[@lindaschultz7900]

I agree! TOO MANY PEOPLE ON EARTH!!

[@dandaintac388]

We may need to turn to desalination at the rate we are over-tapping our fresh water supplies, but desalination is VERY energy intensive--thus very expensive, and then you have to figure where how are we going to generate so much power, especially with Russian gas supplies going away due to war and sanctions. I agree with Maher on the population issue. This planet has swollen to around 8 billion people. This probably exceeds the planet's carrying capacity--and at some point, technology is not going to save us. The only way to humanely and realistically reduce that massive number is for people to have fewer children. Now that might mean people will have to retire later in life, and that might mean there are more old people than young people, but that doesn't spell the end of the world. What DOES spell the end of the world is for this planet to be destroyed through our stripping of all its natural resources, and destroying the ecosystem through consumption and pollution.

[@mathurex211]

The Earths carrying capacity isnt anywhere close to our current population. And that number is soon to go down with the global boomers. Much of the problem is due to industrialization and urbanization, rather than population.

[@steveshort4151]

The issue is the people that continue to have more kids are in the areas of the world with less resources. We need to preach that people in China and India reproduce less

[@andersandersen6295]

@@steveshort4151 If they have less resources, eventually those who cant drink or eat will die, and the population will go down to substainable numbers again.

[@kayalcorn9569]

@@steveshort4151 The world needs to thank China for its one child policy. Yes, it was draconian, but imagine if the Chinese reproduced for all the decades the policy was in affect. I don't agree with the policy, but the world population has been drastically lessened because of it.

[@ritadmn3824]

@@steveshort4151 from what I understand the population of China has plateaued and it is believed the reason behind this is the lifting of the Chinese people out of poverty. I recently heard that the Chinese government was concerned by this drop in population and now want to encourage bigger families, which to me makes no sense.

[@joaocalhandro]

8:24 Noah... Listen: climate change is a product of what we all do, AND how many of us do it. It's a basic 2 variable equation. You can bring up the sixties to pretend that half of this equation doesn't matter (the part you dislike the most: the how many part), but math always wins. Both matter, and currently the cost of making less of us is much lower than dealing with what's here, let alone with what's coming... Unfortunately, the solution to this mess relies on humanity understanding math...

[@joaocalhandro]

@@atomicviking2497 No, it isn't. Conflating the same effect (carbon emissions) at different degrees (different countries having different carbon footprints per capita) with the cause of the emissions isn't how you contest the relationship between the two. That's not how cause and effect works. You're correct in your historical premise, but it doesn't imply your conclusion in any way. Now I concede that it's very complicated to politically and morally get this done from the top down (governments dictating to people) in a fair way (for the reasons your historical premise highlight, for one), but guess what... the same math (and the planet) won't care about that either (as the data showing us failing at it as a species year after year seems to indicate). The solution to fixing this in time is bottom up, and spoilers: rests mostly between our legs... and math. It will continue to be a game of 2 variables. What we do, and how many of us are doing it.

[@absdef331]

youre panicking about overpopulation because you assume you can grasp what concepts are at work without reading about the subject. modern research suggests the global population will cap out some billions higher than today which is easily sustainable on earth. thomas robert maltus invented the overpopulation argument in 1798 when the worlds population was at 1 billion. he was entirely wrong with his predictions, mostly because he failed to predict future technological advancements. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Robert_Malthus

[@bobdobbs69]

This is really simple arithmetic, by the way! 8 billion people equates to about 2 acres of habitable land per person! Ridiculous for raising a family! The real problem is that we are LOSING habitable land not increasing it! That's all there is too it. More people + less habitable land = chaos and war. That's the mathematical 'gun barrel' we are staring down.

[@ronshaddox2382]

The show was DULL tonight. The best guest was Catherine Rampell. Bill Maher continuously interrupted her in an effort to prove he’s always right.

[@notadog]

She's not going to fuck you, Ron.

[@deb9806]

He forgets he is not on Random

[@KCal1213]

He always does it with women and people who don’t agree with him.

[@willflex7340]

Too bad she works for Bezos propaganda machine, but i agree

[@KCal1213]

@@willflex7340 as opposed to Murdoch’s Trump’s criminal enterprise excuse machine.

[@mechanic6682]

I never agree with anything Rothman says. I don't get how people vote for a party that would put them in a camp if they could.

[@osiris3747]

Make all golf courses replace the entire course with turf. Do some R&D to find out what materials would make for a comparable results with how the ball bounces and rolls to real grass.

[@stellercorpse]

Building LA in the middle of a desert that receives inches of rain a year and inviting 20 million people to live is the problem

[@bbirda1287]

But the weather is great! As long as you don't have to stand in line 4 hours at Disneyland.

[@andersandersen6295]

Its a problem that will solve itself, if its not sustainable, people will move or die.

[@Paul-ew5st]

Agriculture uses 80% of California's water the problem has never been the number of people living in LA

[@andersandersen6295]

@@Paul-ew5st How many does that agriculture feed? and does agriculture have other benefits, like eating co2 and producing oxygen, and where does the water agriculture uses go? Does it vanish forever after being used to water plants or people drinking it? as far as i know it recycles and as long as its not shot into space it will keep recyceling.

[@jeffwaters5633]

Regarding overpopulation, what about species decimation? Noah Rothman is so cavalier, he doesn't even give it a thought. He must have one amazing crystal ball to be so self assured the a large problem that has only been exasperated by "engineering" is never going to pose a problem. Or...he's wrong and doesn't know it.

[@squatch545]

Exactly. Infinite growth on a finite planet: what could possibly go wrong?

[@chinesesparrows]

nothing to worry about, nature will take care of it 😆

[@chinesesparrows]

malthus predicted world food demand would outstrip supply and theyd all starve in the 1800s. why it didnt happen was innovation to increase production. the same still holds today, either we innovate solutions or natural selection. that capability is the key difference between humans and animals and why we thrive.

[@squatch545]

@@chinesesparrows Just because Malthus was wrong in the short term doesn't mean he was wrong in the long term.

[@chinesesparrows]

@@squatch545 you didnt read my entire comment. its either innovate or natural selection anyways.

[@victorpradha9946]

Noah Rothman's views on population are just bonkers. The position should never be, "Oh, we'll just technology and science our way out of this!" That's like saying instead of training people to be better, safer drivers, and having road ways that are safer to traverse, we just need more airbags, and more collision minimization measures.

[@Gabzpiano]

The first thing that came to my mind is a JRE clip "History and Dangers of Pesticides" there's pesticides everywhere on the planet. We only have 8 billion people because we're able to feed everyone which is largely due to these pesticides. If we capped our population at 500 million for example it would flat out be way less of a problem. Speaking of man-made contaminants that are everywhere there's also microplastics/pthalates, these contaminants are literally causing huge testosterone decrease, basically eradicating the male gender. Crazy how this doesnt get talked about more. But back to the point of overpopulation, being this many people certainly does have a cost. Elon Musk is also an idiot on this topic.

[@godfathaofyo]

@@Gabzpiano so you want to exterminate 7.5 billion people? Who makes the cut?

[@robvangessel3766]

He does a good job reinforcing my fixed expectations from right-wingers. It's like they all came from a sperm bank marked exclusively by the 'obtuse' gene in the dna. 'His values'.

[@marlynnek6449]

Yep. How's that "fix" working for climate change, Noah? Mother Nature is kicking our asses.

[@markhough7770]

@@marlynnek6449 Mother Nature doesn't exist. But God does. If humans would quit sinning so much and believe in Him more, He would heal the Earth for us.

[@joannek6267]

Bill you forgot the Gomer Pyle USMC Show.

[@savfo7527]

Person = “Economic Unit” Wow. What a time to be alive.

[@alphanerd7221]

Way to totally miss the point and try to virtue signal.

[@mswright2133]

That guy (the Republican) is a jerk‼️

[@auramac]

Aren't they all? "Values?" What values?

[@bassandtrebleclef]

Oh sweetie, all the guests are lumps of coal.

[@JasonON]

Bill should have followed the conservative up with a question about how capitalism is going to pay for desalination.

[@Mr_Case_Time]

The alternative would be government intervention right? The government would hire a private company to do that. Here’s a question: where would the money come from to pay for something like that? Taxing the free market, that’s how. That’s how “socialist” utilities like the fire department, public schools, US mail, etc. are paid for. Capitalism.

[@JasonON]

@@Mr_Case_Time You really don't understand economics do you?

[@Circleofdxxdcx]

Truth is Republicans don’t have our best interest when they still trash Biden even after he is working to lower gas prices and inflation

[@Reaver70]

the ammount of energy needed for Desalination of Salt Water means you will have to pay much much more for water to drink. It also uses much more power (worsening climate even more) and the Extra salty water byproduct then requires expensive redistributing back into the sea or you kill your aquaculture nearby....

[@timan2039]

Desalination comes with its own issues but constant numerical growth is an absurd way to charge into our climatic future

[@OkGoGo71]

Let the population decline. Even if technology could support more people, what's wrong with everyone just having a little more space to breathe in.

[@pizzaman1891]

I think its more about having an entire nationality going extinct.

[@ChatsWithChris]

@@pizzaman1891 it won’t matter as long as it’s brown people mostly effected.

[@bobdobbs69]

8 billion people equates to something like 2 acres of habitable land per person! That's insane in my book! I would much rather have some more space!

[@jv-lk7bc]

@@pizzaman1891 is that a goal or a fear? Your statement isn't terribly clear.

[@pizzaman1891]

@@jv-lk7bc A fear obviously.

[@RobG811]

Apparently in business school, they dont teach you how to operate a toaster oven because some smart sexy temp left his cheese pita on oven instead of timing it for the toaster thing. Ryan started the fiya!

[@ryanmclellan8740]

Tour of the IRS? Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where the field trip was to the box factory..

[@jeffreypierson2064]

Read her Washington Post story. It is eye opening.

[@ryanmclellan8740]

@@jeffreypierson2064 I will. It actually sounds pretty interesting.

[@roguetool8869]

9:00 Bill's meaning of people is corporations who use and waste way more resources than the general population. They only have one thing in mind. Profits and subsidizing the cost of waste to the taxpayers.

[@ThePatrickFamilyBand]

Green Acres was a great show 👌

[@ryanleemartin7758]

It's true, western NJ is rural AF. It's quite beautiful.

[@ryancappo]

Do the math on “desalination” to fix the problem. You would need ~400 desalination plants, pump stations, along with the industry to maintain them and replace filters, along with the power plants or renewable energy it would take to produce enough water for humans, houses, commercial buildings, hotels, farming, refilling reservoirs, refilling groundwater, and ensuring that forests have enough to not catch fire. The land use of this solution would be another Los Angeles probably, if not more.

[@cosmicsquirrel7642]

Israel has an amazing system.

[@donnajones1603]

Yeah we just need to get over the fear of nuclear power plants.... they are the best source for desalination and for the future needs of electric AND Hydrogen powered vehicles...... Thorium power plants is another great alternative ...

[@deborahfreedman333]

@@cosmicsquirrel7642 True, but only about a third of the country relies on it. And, the population of Israel is less than LA's.

[@kayalcorn9569]

And what to do with the residual salt. You can't put it back into the ocean.

[@johnwethekylow]

@@kayalcorn9569 You sell it to the people that currently mine it.

[@patrickwal55]

I'm a fan of the show tho I often disagree with opinions shared - Bill's and those of his guests. Generally intelligent discussions of current events. However ... sometimes the oversimplification of nuanced, complex issues in service to a binary "right/wrong", "I like it/I hate it", etc, in service to outrage or peevishness that feels like it's ultimately just to drive ratings just gets tiresome. (I know, people won't tune in to longer, nuanced debates, so we remain polarized. So Bill is often helping to maintain the status quo, tho he likes to think otherwise.)

[@tallard666]

I'd say he's a mixed bag. Two people on the panel is too few, too binary, with three people the debate was a little messier, which was fun, but also people's politics aren't binary on all topics, we all hold a spectrum of views, more, or LESS, aligned with our party. We must encourage people who disagree to talk with each other. I want a return to the older format. Shorter monologue, shorter interview, 3-person panel should occupy half the duration of the show.

[@absdef331]

i think a big appeal of this show is that bill is pretty ignorant on many issues. and so are some of his gueats. by ignorant i mean they speak in certain terms on matters they dont really know much about, to a large public audience. i think the felt authenticity is fed partially by this open ignorance. the discussion seems to be more open than elsewhere and can lead to truly interesting confrontations when combined with rather ignorant points of view. because, ofc were ignorant on many things we dont know much about, yet still have some opinion about. but if the guests dont vibe like bill wants them to it can turn out poorly like it did in this episode.

[@tallard666]

@@absdef331 I spent 10 years in the sciences at university (biochemistry, statistics, physical chemistry, organic chemisty, endocrinology, physiology, anatomy, ecology, etc, etc), and I can vouch that Maher is correct on a good 90% of his science takes, which is a hell of a lot more than society in general. His guests can either be experts in a couple of given fields, or they can be generalists. They are rarely ignorant, on either side. Maybe you calling all of them ignorant is more you projecting than reality. I've enjoyed Maher since the early days of Politically Incorrect, which was less "smart" but a whole lot funnier. Since Trump, Maher has focused way too much on smarts, and not enough on funny. ;)

[@etch-a-sketch]

@@tallard666 Well said. I think Maher's focus more on "smart" now is a reflection of his concern for where the country is headed. Bill is quite patriotic, even tho' those who dislike him or don't follow him are more likely dispute his love of the country.

[@tallard666]

@@etch-a-sketch and ultimately, an over focus on "concern" starts to feel like concern trolling. Democracy should be about striking a balance between the individual and the mob, and these days the mob, though representing only 50-60% of society, are ruling as Monarchs, and that is wrong. Firm handed policy should only occur under the highest levels on social agreement.

[@pammf9391]

When enough people don’t think their single vote counts or makes a difference--they need to look at some recent primaries- -look at Bush-Gore Presidential race…….Your vote is important

[@zapfanzapfan]

If you live in a state where it is close to 50/50 yes. But it'd be good generally if you had voting figures in the 80+% rather than around 60.

[@alphanerd7221]

Gore won that race. The Republicans stole it.

[@pammf9391]

@@alphanerd7221 agreed,-remember Secretary of State Kathleen Harris in Fla..- people forget how the state politics can interfere in Elections- Trump tried to do it again

[@Lizzieverse]

Many of the problems we face are due to the tremendous mismanagement of resources... focusing on profits instead of the true needs of the population imo.

[@User-54631]

What’s a “true need?” your “true need” may not be mine. I live in Ca, I don’t need my home built to withstand a hurricane. People in Kansas do.

[@mecha-sheep7674]

Infinite growth in a finite world. Ask your average yeast in a petri dish who that ends.

[@jamesbobo]

I wish Bill would have asked Rothman what democratic values he disagrees with, and what his values are. Does he want to take away people's healthcare? Does he want people to work for poverty wages? Does he want high drug prices?

[@mrdog66]

Healthcare? We have one of the worst healthcare systems of the industrial nations. Well, China's is worse. Rothman is a conservative in the Mitt Romney mold and thinks Medicare, Medicaid and SS should be either privatized or done away with completely. So do some Democrats like Biden who have no problem with turning a large part of Medicare over to for profit health insurance corporations.

[@annepankau8329]

Magical thinking will take care of the environment, he says.

[@bobdobbs69]

Yeah, well, waiting for that magical thinking shit to kick in has got me a little concerned!

[@alphanerd7221]

Nope. He didn't say that. You wish he had because you don't like what he said but you can't refute it. We have the tech now to double our population and fix global warming.

[@timothybeardsley2715]

Is the issue with water in the South West maybe an issue of too many people in a desert? You can't stack that many people in an arid region and then complain about the lack of water. As a native Californian who moved away many years ago, I'm baffled every time I visit and see how much everything has expanded since the previous visit. But the weather is nice so...

[@jesskeller2518]

Everytime I hear this about the people moving to the desert.... I keep thinking, and yes I am older... "see this, This is sand, this is sand, You can't grow food in this!!!!!! Quit giving them Money and send them U-Hauls". You younger folks will have no idea what I am talking about, but Sam Kinison was a master of this type of conversation. GOOGLE HIM and get ready to have your Triggers shot

[@timothybeardsley2715]

@@jesskeller2518 Dude, Sam Kinison was the GOAT. It's a shame he couldn't give us more. I also think that comedians provide us with unique insight into issues. You should hear Bill Burr's take on some of those issues.

[@jv-lk7bc]

You say that as if its a local problem. But that or similar situations are repeated all over the country and all over the world. OK, wave a magic wand [or a fascist gun or economic calamity] and make them all move. Where would you put them? Do you want them all in your town? ...on the green farmland so its no longer producing enough food? perhaps you'd like to cut down the remaining rain-forests [that are standing between us and megadroughts] and put a billion or 2 billion people in new cities there? Shall we put them all on mountaintops where the air is too thin and water is even harder to truck in? Can't put them down the oubliette. Then we'd be Nazis. Also, desertification isn't the only problem. water levels are also rising with 20% of the population within 5 miles of the sea. Where do you suggest we put all the people, Timothy? Is there answer that doesn't involve lowering the birthrate?

[@timothybeardsley2715]

​@@jv-lk7bc I don't have the answers, homie. I just point out what I see. Birthrates are down by the way because much of the world is in the fourth phase of the population cycle which is indicated by lower birth rates and higher death rates (mostly due to an aging population).

[@culley8841]

NV resident here, I'm constantly horrified by the number of golf courses that get built here every year or Mcmansions with a few acres of lawn and tropical bushes and trees....it's no wonder lake mead is empty.

[@jhanick]

I’ve always gotten my return timely. When I’ve made mistakes it was caught.

[@TimeWasp]

I went to Pennsylvania 2 years ago, and visited my friends hometown, being from the South, I was surprised by how conservative they are, many more so than southern folks.

[@Jessicanyc]

Deprive those almond growers of the wasted water they use !

[@MichaelClifford2020]

And the bees

[@swushey]

Just because we came up with solutions in the past to allow for more population, doesn't mean we will think of new solutions in the future. Maybe we will, but let's not COUNT on it

[@peterhausmann8337]

To be honest we were very bad with solutions in the past and with numbers rising it might get even worse. Just if you don't care about poor people and you ignore hunger, war and other precarious living conditions you can claim we did well in the past.

[@RatatRatR]

It's the same attitude a lot of people have about the climate. "I'm sure we'll invent our way out of trouble when the time comes." It's an extremely tenuous gamble.

[@lmsxxaaa]

As someone who has mostly voted Democrat, I would change parties and vote for Liz Cheney in the primaries without question if it came down to Trump and Cheney. Even though I don't agree with her policies, saving our democracy is much more important at this point.

[@marlynnek6449]

You are not alone. A lot of Democrats I know say the same thing.

[@samanthachurch]

Same

[@alexanderp.1391]

You'd vote for the daughter of a war criminal instead of a harmless buffoon?

[@barnabusdoyle4930]

What funny is that Biden has done more to stomp on the rights of American citizens then Trump ever did. Mandates for non-sterilizing vaccines, everyone has the right to make their own medical decisions, pressuring social media companies to violate 1st amendment rights of citizens simply because they don’t tow the line or push back against the narrative, when Biden pressured Canada to freeze bank accounts of trucker protesters. I really don’t like Trump, but Biden has been far more authoritarian then Trump ever was. We need accountability for this or the next administration will push even farther until we live in a dictatorship. Trump is not the threat people think he is, our current government is.

[@deanok306]

If some had said 10 years ago, that someone would come along and take out the Bish, Clinton and Cheney dynasties. You would of said yes yes yes! But the regime tells you to love Dick Cheney now! One of the most evil fookers ever, to be in government!

[@richardmtl]

All the water we need is right above us; the air

[@user-hm8oz1wx4j]

Water, people... Bill's priorities!

[@dailydinkus8340]

I thought Noah Rothman was intelligent until I heard him arguing that having more children has no ecological impact 😂

[@libertarianpunk8558]

People are realizing it’s all poor people having children. If this helps a few more educated families to feel OK about reproducing I’m all for it. The Japanese want to see their race continue strongly I know you don’t want to wrap your head around that though.

[@marlynnek6449]

When you say stupid things with authority and conviction there are, unfortunately, a lot of Americans who will believe you. No shock he's a Republican.

[@trevinoandsons4615]

And who thinks your opinion is intelligent 😂 Mr intelligent KZbin worrier

[@libertarianpunk8558]

@@marlynnek6449 You don’t want people to have kids because you don’t want to have to change your Gluttonous wasteful lifestyle either. Tell it to the third world they’re the ones reproducing in huge numbers republicans aren’t your enemy on this subject. And you are no more or less wasteful than them just because you want the government to protect you from your own decisions

[@troybabs]

Agree... Must be be his (blind), "conservative values."

[@frederickkearney7798]

Rothman lives in a dream world. Clearly, he is a city boy who has no clue about how much water is needed to grow food. Desalination cannot supply even a small percentage of the water needs for agriculture. Water for agriculture is measured in acre feet not gallons or liters. In addition, desalination requires staggering amounts of energy to push the water through the semi-permeable membranes in the process, leaving a gigantic carbon "footprint" contributing to additional global heating.

[@zoobrizz]

Clueless 🤡☝️

[@aidanmargarson8910]

see graphene as a desalination filter?

[@frederickkearney7798]

It would be nice if it was available on an industrial scale. Since it isn't, no one has reliably calculated the cost or water volume using such a method. Since there are 325,851 gallons in one acre foot of water, that's a lot of energy to spend when you are talking about the scale of water use for farming. It takes almost a million gallons to bring in 1 acre of lettuce from seeds to harvest. It costs in the neighborhood of about $4.50 a thousand gallons to desalinate water, so that'd be some pretty pricy lettuce. Certainly improved irrigation practices could help, but the water is still measured in acre feet.

[@cristofjulun1265]

Is this Noah Rothman an engineer? Because desalination introduces a whole other bunch of problems. Like for example, it take a lot of energy to separate the particulates out of the seawater and when you’ve done that you still have to dispose of the slurry that is left from the desalination process. Where does that go? I get so sick of people who have no idea about STEM focused projects with their « just press the big red button on the wall » mentality come up with these out of their asses solutions as if their changing the batteries out of their Sony PlayStation Controller.

[@krusher74]

its salt, Mc donalds will put it on their fries.

[@cristofjulun1265]

@@krusher74 too much salt kills. You know that, yes?

[@cristofjulun1265]

@@krusher74 and also different levels of certain metals/salts have different levels of toxicity. Salt is not just « salt », there are all types of different types of dissolved material in seawater, some of which one would never put on fries or ingest at any level. Are you an engineer? Or are you another red button pusher?

[@bobdobbs69]

No, Noah is a complete idiot. And the whole 'Israel did it' is a joke because the Middle East is permanently fucked anyway! It's going to be completely uninhabitable by the end of the century and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it now! We already baked in 50-200 years of climate change even if we go extinct! And, technically, I am an engineer! But, you really don't need to be an engineer to know this stuff! It's pretty fucking obvious with a little reading.

[@pwrhr]

@@cristofjulun1265 MIT has been working on turning the concentrated brine into useful chemicals

[@cd5642]

Here’s an idea…..flat tax! Everyone pays their share, no tax code, no tax shelter, and best of all…….NO IRS!

[@flankspeed]

Sounds like I need to move to Japan 😎

[@revenant6910]

You can’t fight with Bill. He always have the logic and the facts to support his argument.

[@jv-lk7bc]

More like: he has the loudest voice and always has the last word because its his show. Thats not logic and facts. Bill makes more of an effort than almost anybody else on TV to not abuse that and to give people time and space, but he's not perfect. Bill does make an effort to employ facts and sometimes logic... and also relies on emotional arguments too.

[@jv-lk7bc]

Even though i agree with Bill more, I admit that Novak was making points

[@alphanerd7221]

Nope. This overpopulation crusade of his just makes him look dumb.

[@Eversmith]

Doesn’t Bill support social services including funding the retired? If so, he’s woefully ignorant on how a declining population makes social security unsustainable.

[@bobdobbs69]

In the US, social security is fucked for entirely different POLITICAL reasons! We could certainly shift our priorities and properly fund these programs but we are too busy passing checks to Raytheon and Boeing.

[@blahblahmeowchow6383]

If we uncapped it, we'd have no problem with SS funding.

[@AnexoRialto]

The only part of government bureaucracy that is always cutting edge in functioning countries is tax collection. Unbelievable that the USA has this byzantine, complicated, anachronistic tax system.

[@abiyoyo9831]

We don’t though. Most taxes are filed electronically. Furthermore, most returns are direct-deposited into people’s accounts

[@rhettvorsterblack]

There's no limited resources, just limited compassion. That's why moral government is necessary, to make people do what they need to do: show compassion. My books on Amazon and Lulu talk about this.

[@jackhouska232]

that eugenics line he tossed out there was real zinger. Went over everyones heads

[@jacobdockter3436]

that truly is insane that they have to physically type in your tax returns if you send in a paper return.

[@ChatsWithChris]

I’m pissed

[@1247.cccccc]

Why? She has an excellent job with maximum benefits. At least admit why this scenario exists before spending billions to 'fix' it.

[@jacobdockter3436]

@@1247.cccccc it exists because of the tech we are using because the IRS is seriously underfunded. there should be no reason for manually entering tax returns. there is more power than an iphone from 10 years ago then the computers they are using. not to mention the potential mistakes. they are human can make simple typos, miskey, , forget a decimal, etc.

[@1247.cccccc]

@@jacobdockter3436 Tell that to the person that has been working there collecting a salary and benefits. This 'discovery' is just another government anachronism. They're everywhere.

[@mattstevens9667]

Nice job Bill. Great episode!

[@Aquarian1]

I like Bill's last comment here, drink ocean water, the oceans are rising. Engineers, get busy solving that!

[@mcgloinm1]

I like bill Maher and we share most of the same values, but... Did you notice how he disrupted, interrupted that lady on almost every time she tried to speak? One thing Mr. Maher and I don't have is: that I'm not a sexist.

[@MFM88832]

He does that a lot with everyone regardless of gender if you've been listening and watching over the years. Stop trying to always find sexism where there is none.

[@CollectableGold]

Middle class is audited more than rich. Why do people not understand this.

[@juliobro1]

Regarding ways to vote, RANKED VOTING is the best answer.

[@goodguy6352]

Keep up the education on population and it’s direct effect on our earth Bill!

[@judyhansel8000]

72% of Earth's surface is water. Of the remaining 28%, only one % is inhabited. "Over" population is a big lie along with humans causing climate change.

[@Games_and_Music]

Desalination is a relief, it's not _the_ solution. Solutions like that is like packing gunpowder into a cannon, you can stamp it to be more compact and fit better, but it will explode at some point. Also using his logic, can't we engineer our way out of economical problems?

[@michaelhutchings6602]

Yes

[@Games_and_Music]

@@michaelhutchings6602 If that was the answer to the question i wrote, then how? It would take a global effort to get rid of the monetary system, or at least eradicate the profit-based growth (the one which comes at the loss of the other). But there will always be some kind of competition going, maybe if we can turn that energy towards a better future... I just don't see desalination as a viable long term solution, i don't think it has benefits to the oceans, as the ice caps are fresh water already, taking out more salt from the oceans just doesn't sound like a good idea.

[@bobdobbs69]

Desalination is a crutch, as you say. It's not even economically viable, because it's very energy intensive and destroys marine ecosystems. People generally suffer in the long run. Unless you have a bunch of nuclear power stations but that has it's own set of problems, too!

[@alphanerd7221]

Most of the ocean is salt water. Desalinization could support the water needs of a trillion people.

[@michaelfritts6249]

I was fortunate to travel 30 years ago to Tokyo for 2 weeks. From what I experienced, the people I met worked very hard and seemed quite dedicated to their careers and education. They also knew how to "cut loose" when on a night out. My experience was limited to one big city and a day trip to Kamakura, but in that time I don't recall seeing anyone drunk on the sidewalk.. unless walking supported by laughing friends getting into a taxi or the next karaoke bar. Encouraging drinking at home is kind of strange. Getting back to a fun and vibrant nightlife with friends should be encouraged.

[@linguaphile42]

I got to spend 10 days there in 2018, visiting Tokyo, Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and more. Can't speak to the drinking, but they were the most civilized people I've ever encountered, and that is after seeing some 20 countries. We were a big tour group with teenagers and not once did anyone roll their eyes, get impatient with us, or say an unkind word. The teachers in our group had that designation on their name tags and twice Japanese people came up and bowed to them. It was wild. It just made you realize that it is possible to be another way, to live a life of consideration for others.

[@DY2784]

👋Childfree! Saving resources one less human at a time.😀👍

[@themusicman1556]

Earlier they spoke about online shopping and of I may say in my defense, I live far away from many of the stores that I purchase from and since I'm 17 I can't really move.

[@SweetLilWren]

What I read about the topic of Japan encouraging their youth to imbibe more, was pointing to stimulating the economy somewhat and also strengthening their hospitality sector because restaurants n bars were having a hard time Tho I think it could affect the population growth, 38% of the population is over 60 years of age

[@humanonearth1]

It's all too late for a baby boom that's what people don't get. You can't have an apparent aging population problem, notice and encourage babies, and then wait 20+ years for those individuals to just start being a productive part of society. The only feasible solution is immigration, and with the rise of neo fascism around that's gonna have it's own additional challenges. Japan is a very homogeneous population, they take very little immigration. They need to grow up and get with the times or they will simply age out. Developing nations everywhere are competing to attract immigrants. It's math. Not ideology.

[@pendorran]

@@humanonearth1 Exactly. All developed countries have reduced birthrates, and countries that can't accept, attract and integrate immigrants are doomed to literally age out of existence. America does that better than any nation on Earth. Europe does it poorly (fails at integration) and East Asia doesn't do it at all.

[@ReflectionTool637]

From what I read Japan uses alcohol taxes to fund a lot of their government, even though they pay lip service to trying to help the hospitality industry in this case. Don't get me wrong though, Japan is one of the best countries on the planet, easy.

[@sciencefliestothemoon2305]

@@humanonearth1 Immigration of who? This is not the 19th century. Most western economies rely on a trained, basic educated workforce, Japan even more so. The countries in the world that have a surplus of people are also the ones with the highest rates of illiteracy. That was not a problem in the 19th century, when they could work in the mines and construction sector.

[@humanonearth1]

@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 What takes longer, to train an adult a skill and possibly a new language if necessary, or raise a child to adulthood, then train them in the same skill? Your math is broken.

[@hereigoagain5050]

To me "policy and values" are less important than making good faith effort to govern rather than chasing power and money. A good cue is if they tell barefaced lies.

[@danhaakenson7028]

If you ever want a clear cut example of what's broken in our politics/party affiliation, just listen to Noah's limp noodle response to Bill's simple question at 4:45 .

[@MFM88832]

even agrees it's cowardly, what a pansy

[@YankeeBlues21]

It seemed pretty clear to me (as somebody who broadly shares Noah’s views and worked in politics until 2020) that he, like many partisans in the public eye, can’t actually say they’ll vote for the opposing nominee for POTUS while still hoping to hold credibility over any copartisans. He almost certainly would vote for Joe Biden over Trump (especially if his vote mattered) in the privacy of the voting booth, but he can’t come out and say it and still be able to hold influence over people who’d be appalled at that choice. It’s like when Democrats get upset at Hogan for writing in Reagan or Cheney for claiming to vote for Trump. I doubt either actually did that on their ballot, but they both hoped (and continue to hope) to maintain credibility with the sorts of Republican partisans who dislike Trump but ALWAYS vote Republican regardless if they’re ever to drive such people away from Trumpian candidates in the future. I voted for Biden in 2020 to get rid of Trump but if anyone asks, I wrote in my pet. It’s the difference between the Trump supporters (and simply Republican-no-matter-what partisans) in my life continuing to be exposed to my beliefs (because they trust my POV from my political days, even though they know I dislike Trump versus them tuning me out as a “TDS libtard traitor” or blocking me on social media (which again means they get zero input from outside of their cultivated bubble instead of a bit).

[@ogretattoo]

Amusing how people on both sides accuse the other of trying to remove "democracy" from the nation. Guess it's interpretation of what "democracy" means to them.

[@annepankau8329]

You'll never know if your 1 vote would have made the difference until it's too late.

[@patrickwontor2061]

9:20: “Israel solved their water scarcity problem with desalination.” They also took over parts of Palestine that had water

[@chrisc2439]

it also bewilders me that non-hetero men like noah rothman politically align themselves with conservatives

[@paulppchristman5827]

Yes. Gay Republican men present an awkward and very startling and perplexing juxtaposition to a vast majority of people who will think and say "What the hell is wrong with those guys ??!". However, gay Republicans help to dispel the many negative false stereotypical notions which lots of people continue to mistakenly believe about gay men.

[@j.dragon651]

Overpopulation is the number one problem facing the planet period. This guy may be smart but when it comes to this subject he has lost his way. We won't be satisfied until the planet is paved over and we are the only species left. Good luck with that.

[@bobdobbs69]

These guys have extremely short time horizons. I thought we made civilization for thousands of years, not a couple of hundred. This entire economic system is already running on fumes and they want to add more people to the mix? We have a 30 trillion dollar debt! You sure you guys want to do that?

[@j.dragon651]

@@bobdobbs69 I went to the Hayden Planetarium in grade school in the fifties. I remember there was a huge globe with lights showing the population of the earth throughout time with lights representing population densities. It started out in Africa, and as the population grew the lights sprang up throughout the globe until the present time, the 1950s. Then it progressed into the future with the present population growth statistics until the whole globe was lit up! That made one of biggest, lasting impressions on and in my life ever since.

[@alphanerd7221]

It isn't real. The idea that a planet the size of the Earth is overtaxed by 8 billion people is absurd.

[@alphanerd7221]

@@blankfrank25 Who cares? Huxley doesn't' know anything.

[@sampeak1605]

People who believe in overpopulation shouldn't be allowed to vote. We have a crisis of too few workers and barely any child birth. We have less pollution and poverty per capita and we're better at conserving resources than ever. What we lack is a young workforce.

[@govinda102000]

Japan wanting to increase drinking among younger peoples is definitely to increase the birth rate.

[@eastsidenicole]

Yes Bill, water, you're right. Say it! Wake up people, stop being so cavalier in your daily life.

[@jamesgicas3557]

Catherine Rampel makes this video worth it

[@colinobrien631]

Bill should talk to someone who understands demographic decline and the threats that it has to societies. He’s a smart guy who I’m sure would understand the complexities of it if he talked to someone who was an expert on the subject. Peter Zeihan comes to mind. And maybe on his podcast where the medium allows for more of a discussion instead of 7 minute conversations

[@jmhorange]

Seems like he conflating the world's population, with an individual country's demographics. It's sort of like not understanding that California has drought issues because the world is 75 percent water and California is bordered by the Pacific Ocean. Whether or not the world has a overpopulation issue, Japan and some other Western countries have demographic decline issues. The two are unrelated. Governments are going to try things like Japan is trying now, or have to have a serious debate about their immigration policy. I see a tough road ahead for them no matter what these governments do or don't do to address this issue.

[@deliman7203]

I've only watched a few of those podcasts, but they're not 'Information' based like this show. It's more fluff and entertainment.

[@bluceree7312]

In his podcast he said that Japan's plan is to stop spending money on elderly care (above 80) and letting them die naturally in piece, no need to prop their miserable lives to 95 or 100. Seems like a good plan.

[@YouToobin]

Over population is a threat to societies too. This is not as black and white as you think.

[@redmist78]

Once again it shows you how screwed up our country is when the IRS that's been around for decades still has antiquated stuff and we have an updated it. That's just disgusting and sad.

[@agentxchannel6640]

Big Corp LOVES IT..

[@cleosmom7]

They need to overhaul the IRS not give it money. Start taxing and enforcing taxes against the rich. The middle class has carried this country on our backs long enough!!

[@billtribble2904]

Overhaul requires funding. 🤗

[@jeffhodge7333]

They used to think that the salt residue from the ocean had no value, but it does. It has the trace elements we need for batteries. So, we should desalinate ocean water, and then we should mine the salt reside for the trace elements. The process will turn a profit. Every urban center on the coasts should have desalination plants. Right now, the USA has 16,000 plants, but they are small.

[@bobdobbs69]

Who's going to pay for this? The desalination plant and the electricity to run it? SoCal has already lost 8% of its hydroelectric power!