Extensive list of changes, I need some time to gather my thoughts after I play it. My early thoughts are there are some inconsistencies on what they brought back vs what they kept modern. Example is Rein charge steering, idk why they reversed it they shoulda kept that.
@french_toast2239 сағат бұрын
Anything but extensive. Shouldve just removed all the garabge reworks they did.
@lesliejacoby91379 сағат бұрын
Sombra getting no changes at all also feels weird
@lesliejacoby91379 сағат бұрын
@french_toast223 first Sombra one was good and I think new bastion just needs his old ult
@hoangDo-jh2eg5 сағат бұрын
Marvel rivals is kings
@dbz64834 сағат бұрын
Shared bubbles is so much than individual bubbles
@bendubz90008 сағат бұрын
Ah, back to the days of Soldier bouncing between 19 and 20 damage per shot every patch
@nebulous92807 сағат бұрын
Same with Ana and the 70-75 Damage. 75 Damage is too strong, 70 Damage is too weak. They need to just make it 72.5 or something and call it. Same with Soldier, go for 19.5.
@ZombieaidZ7 сағат бұрын
I seen that and thought the same. Brought me back
@coldspice58737 сағат бұрын
@@nebulous9280honestly I’m all for it
@JoofusTheBoofus6 сағат бұрын
@@nebulous9280 that wouldn't do anything, the reason they change it so often is cause it determines how many shots to kill a target, Ana at 75 can 3 shot a 225 hero, where as at 70 its a 4 shot. increasing it by 2.5 doesn't change anything since it will still be a 4 shot to kill. soldiers in a lot less important since he fires more shots per second then ana but same rule applies, 19.5 wouldn't make the difference needed.
@QutelDawn5 сағат бұрын
@@JoofusTheBoofus This doesn't account for already accumalted damage on a target.
@roccomstar155010 сағат бұрын
I find it funny how Karq still uses the 3d model of echo and not her 2d portrait
@chb_dlx9 сағат бұрын
And Brig’s too on some of his old vids. Her portrait doesnt have her hair thingy
@roccomstar15509 сағат бұрын
@ it shouldn’t because her ow2 skin doesn’t have it
@nynsho23269 сағат бұрын
to be fair, her 2d portrait (reutilized from ow1) makes her look like garbage the face proportions are not even close to the actual model either
@m.artifex20019 сағат бұрын
@@roccomstar1550 ow2 brig does have her hair things. They had to update the icon bc it was a mistake that they were gone
@roccomstar15509 сағат бұрын
@ the overwatch 2 default brig skin does not have the crown thing. The icon had it by mistake and they had to remove it because the skin doesn’t have it anymore.
@Monarch28010 сағат бұрын
Saw Flats' video on the patch notes earlier, said nah and waited for the goat KarQ instead.
@zaboomawho9 сағат бұрын
yeah i clicked off the vid when he started flaming his chat lol
@rfewer9 сағат бұрын
@@zaboomawhoDUDE ME TOO LMAO. Like just read the patch notes and stop getting rage baited by your chat, causing you to go on a 10 minute passive aggressive tangent
@tomnguyen15519 сағат бұрын
Can someone fill me in on what went down in Flats' video? Was he dragging the video? Going on an unscathed rant? Just curious.
@MrBisonorus9 сағат бұрын
@@tomnguyen1551basically a combo of being ragebaited by chat and the chat yelling about ads or something idk
@phimholmes60139 сағат бұрын
glaze LOL
@angrybirdsbrawl13358 сағат бұрын
Junker Queen, having her passive at 1X self-heal is a crime. It should be a 1.5X self-healing passive.
@bruhvibes59413 сағат бұрын
Agreed, I played her and she’s not bad but I can’t really mitigate damage.
@libelous64173 сағат бұрын
With 2 tanks she’d have a LOT of self heal. 1x or 1.25x at most but 2 tanks is basically 2x anyways
@ВасилийШилов-ч2г9 сағат бұрын
God i hate going back and forth with hog in settings with this classic and 6v6 mode and normal, its such a mess to change his control buttons between versions
7 сағат бұрын
Fr there was literally no reason to revert the trap it added a lot of depth to his kit beyond just cheesy one shots
@Ultimatum2274 сағат бұрын
Honestly, after playing Hog since 2017, I would prefer if they just go back to his original kit like in 6v6. His secondary fire just feels so good to use. I'd rather keep that instead of the trap's kill pressure. You have 5 other players to follow-up on the hooks so it's not even necessary.
@revan32703 сағат бұрын
@@Ultimatum227FACTS
@bambampewpew322 сағат бұрын
@guy who literally doesn't have a name Nah trap is fun to use kinda I guess but it's just kinda a gimmick
@bradyb1604Сағат бұрын
I came here to comment the exact same thing. Frankly, that’s just bad game design. Newer players that don’t keep up with balance patches like more long-term fans are going to be very confused and probably frustrated when one of the characters they play has an entirely different kit/play style between 5v5 and 6v6 when everyone else stays the same
@SurPriseOw10 сағат бұрын
"for genji... no changes"
@BlueIcee408 сағат бұрын
I wish junk and bastion got changed too but maybe they will be good with an extra tank. An extra tank will not help genji rip
@fernald22018 сағат бұрын
So I, moira players.. we rejoice hunting genji once more
@cursedfl4mes6457 сағат бұрын
Good😊
@sakitoshi7 сағат бұрын
and that is why they should nerf genji. it's a joke.
@easyoffbam3055 сағат бұрын
as usual, even though he was nerfed specifically for 5v5...
@omegamkx5888 сағат бұрын
I was hoping that Rein would keep the double Firestrike and they’d just lower the damage on it. It feel really good to be able to have a little flexibility on his only ranged option
@Lord_Lumpi2 сағат бұрын
I missed that part, double fire strike is so much more enjoyable :(
@bambampewpew322 сағат бұрын
Nah I'd much rather have the 1 stronger firestrike, because of the bap window clips
@bambampewpew322 сағат бұрын
@@Lord_Lumpi but the bap clips
@Legokillen5110 сағат бұрын
”Wait so OW2 was just a micro transaction update?” Always has been
@onur60209 сағат бұрын
And there's nothing micro about it, 50$+ avatar skin bundle anyone ?
@AchedSphinx9 сағат бұрын
yeah...when ow1 improved the lootboxes that lost the money. year 1 when the lootboxes were at their worst they made so much bank every publisher wanted to be them. then fortnite came along and figured you could create a battlepass, make people play the game to complete the battlepass and while they're doing that perhaps they'll consider buying something in the MTX store. now everyone does that to varying success. but yeah ow2 was made to make money again with a more efficient strategy.
@TrueOracle9 сағат бұрын
@@onur6020 That's kinda the point of a bundle, to bulk buy all the skins at a discounted price than if you bought them separately. I think it's more fair to go after individual skin price than bundle price. People just go after bundles for shock value.
@tgregi9 сағат бұрын
If they dont give us 6v6, rage. When they do, make fun of them. Its free game so..
@Drop0sauce9 сағат бұрын
@@AchedSphinxnot even close they see how much players are paying for shitty mobile games and are following suit that’s why a lot of games start looking similar to mobile gotcha games in your face with the fake sales and new skins with little to no reward for f2p players
@jacksparrow11h9 сағат бұрын
"For genji, no changes." That actually hurts dude
@theflyingtomahawk16258 сағат бұрын
Yeah and it's funny that Echo now can copy a full hp tank and does more dmg vs all with Beam. Cass who is already very good vs tanks and Soldier both get dps upgrades. Meanwhile Genji whose job is even harder now, gets no changes. Lmao
@_V.Va_7 сағат бұрын
So what? Several other DPS got no changes, some even got nerfs.
@Arkere7 сағат бұрын
Devs hate skill based heroes
@erjohn54047 сағат бұрын
This is proof that they don't care about community.
@MusicalBlam3 сағат бұрын
Genji's identity is clearer in 6v6. 6v6 in and of itself is a genji buff
@effeilar8879 сағат бұрын
Widow buff to 225hp is criminal
@drucy.9 сағат бұрын
Literally changes nothing. She's cooked basically just as quick once you get near her. And if you engage her at range, that's on you for being stupid.
@5falltv8959 сағат бұрын
2 tanks means she can get dived again, it'll be aight
@paulakroy26358 сағат бұрын
Two tanks means she had actual counters
@throwaray8 сағат бұрын
Frogger is crying rn
7 сағат бұрын
@@throwarayFrogger throws for content anyways I’m sure he’ll live
@mikasa-ul8vz9 сағат бұрын
2:51 The HAHA BUTTON 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@Bronster8 сағат бұрын
Very interesting they changed hog back so much, but kept some other OW2 changes, like ranged zap cannon.
@gobbagoo7 сағат бұрын
i dont get why they would revert some of the tank changes like reins 2 firestrikes but keep some other changes, most of the ow2 tank reworks were a positive imo and removing that makes them feel worse to play
@FenHin446 сағат бұрын
Because there will be 2 tanks in the team now
@gobbagooСағат бұрын
@@FenHin44 yea but some of the changes like hog reverting make him less fun to play against, while keeping monkeys 2nd fire means he feels exactly the same as ow2 which is more fun for players
@RRRRRRRRR333 сағат бұрын
10:31 "millions", are you sure about that?
@davidarzola7341Сағат бұрын
Yes ow2 still have millions of active players
@RRRRRRRRR33Сағат бұрын
@davidarzola7341 Sure thing buddy
@egel773654 минут бұрын
@@RRRRRRRRR33 I mean, I don't think that's far-fetched at all. OW2 is still massively popular, on both console and PC (Battle Net/Steam). I know we're stuck in this annoying ass Rivals/OW2 war thingy for the coming months, but the narrative around OW2 especially is incredibly skewed.
@RRRRRRRRR3340 минут бұрын
@@egel7736 There's 20k people playing this game right now on Steam (the 6v6 test is already in effect, right? Along with the lame ass new character that I forgot the name already). Even if you pick this number and multiply it by 50, it will not get even close to "millions". Rivals did not kill anything, Overwatch killed itself. The extreme negativity, low number of players, low number of viewers on Twitch as well (niched to say the least, but at least the platform is open), etc.. to really assume this game has 1 million active players, that is already disingenuous, but to say "millions", lol c'mon, that's ridiculous and delusional
@leadpoisoned456 сағат бұрын
Ngl they could have gotten away with not changing doom at all
@mrboombasy33014 сағат бұрын
they have no idea how to balance doom im convinced no one on the balance team plays him
@AkshayKumarXСағат бұрын
@@mrboombasy3301What would you your suggested changes be?
@M1LKMANСағат бұрын
@@AkshayKumarXwall climb on a 2 hour cooldown
@DNYLNY8 сағат бұрын
It’s super fun. Merry Christmas everyone!
@VtrBiscoito4 сағат бұрын
Unmerry Christma for you >:(
@sortakindageese10 сағат бұрын
Let’s see if this is going to be playable or not.
@overlordalfredo10 сағат бұрын
Unlikely... 😢 Very sad
@theintruder60859 сағат бұрын
No it wont be
@kemmy54448 сағат бұрын
it’s really good. loving it so far.
@Cr4nched7 сағат бұрын
@@kemmy5444 Maybe wait longer than a few hours to assess.... 😑
@_Dakchad6 сағат бұрын
@@Cr4nchednah its gas
@oracle_san59429 сағат бұрын
Wow they really don’t want any kind of queen players anywhere with how much they’re massacring her
@joshquain8 сағат бұрын
Welcome to the life of a junkrat main
@Bad3abdul8 сағат бұрын
they nerfed queen in season 13 ending you all screamed tiktok comments were like "i just learnt jq and they gutted her" and 2 weeks after queen is fine and the same you people have a Severe problem of overreacting before knowing anything
@kayden232ou8 сағат бұрын
@@Bad3abdulYOU PEOPLE!?
@Bad3abdul7 сағат бұрын
@@kayden232ou she's fine
7 сағат бұрын
Which is hilarious considering the fan base want Reinhardt to be perma meta when he’s an easy knuckedragger hero and queen actually requires skill and execution to use Queen, Sigma and Winston would be be the premier tanks in a perfect world
@8UMadBro89 сағат бұрын
I am very convinced Blizzard just throws random numbers for balance... hopefully they tune the balance rather than thinking 6v6 is a failure when people only play a few games
@Abby_Affchen8 сағат бұрын
It actually is fun
@8UMadBro88 сағат бұрын
@@Abby_Affchen what roles do you play? I feel like it's enjoyable for a little but it wouldn't last with this balance, especially with how poorly they tried to change tanks
@Omar04x8 сағат бұрын
Nah, a lot of them make sense, like the Zenyatta changes are godlike balancing that should come to 5v5 too.
@Abby_Affchen8 сағат бұрын
@@8UMadBro8 I come from OW1, but I play tank. It only feels miserable if your positioning is bad or if your other tank doesn't know what tank synergy is. When 2 tanks know what they're doing it feels oppressive towards the other roles. I've mainly been playing with my duo with rein Zarya and Winston dva and we are having a lot of fun and dominating Tanks needed to be nerfed for 6v6 since they were gigabuffed for 5v5.
@GortinTime8 сағат бұрын
Thinking 6v6 will be a failure because of the actual balance instead of accepting 5v5 is more fun for 90% of the playerbase is an interesting coping mechanism
@SylveonShihoin9 сағат бұрын
Tracer back at 12 meter fall off is massive. It was bugged for the longest at that range before the devs noticed and was a lot safer to play
@thechocolatedonut72167 сағат бұрын
I thought it was bugged to be 25 and it was SUPPOSED to be 12
@SylveonShihoin7 сағат бұрын
@@thechocolatedonut7216 oh really!? LOL
@defaultdan79234 сағат бұрын
is it just me or is it still not enough? i might just be cooked but she feels kinda weak
@Imabanana8477 сағат бұрын
"25% crit damage is removed" THANK FUCKING GOD
@Ghajestis9 сағат бұрын
i'm concerned about bap in this mode. he's gonna be able to do a LOT of healing, which means more amp matrices, which probably means double shield might make a return for a bit
@gravityhacks18799 сағат бұрын
This just goes for supps that are able to deal splash/aoe healing, not limited to bap
@maramba328 сағат бұрын
Double shield was possible because of orisa and sigma. They are mobile shields that can attack at the same time. Ram has a high cd on his shield
@Ghajestis7 сағат бұрын
@@maramba32 yeah, when i think about it, double shield would be really hard to pull off cuz of heroes like ram, mauga, and now hazard. also orisa doesn't have her shield anymore
7 сағат бұрын
It’s almost as if the tanks were never the problem or something
7 сағат бұрын
@@GhajestisYou just run sigma/Ram now. Barrier uptime is lower, but still enough that bap can easily full heal through defensive rotations
@Skasua8 сағат бұрын
This is so much more fun, 6v6 allows everyone to be more chaotic and wild, then to be defensive of losing a tank
@Thewanderingsoulskool8 сағат бұрын
Ball is so much better! Sooooooo much more fun
@lucifero_il_gatto10 сағат бұрын
They should have kept the reworks, there was literally no need to remove them >:( Besides that, this should be fun
@Ghajestis9 сағат бұрын
the only rework they removed was the horrendous hog rework
@lucifero_il_gatto9 сағат бұрын
@ and ball and rein and zarya
@starrysky81189 сағат бұрын
Zarya's rework made her way too braindead. She's better with limitations.
@giuseppevaccaro75219 сағат бұрын
Bro, ora ci stanno 2 tank dovevano farlo
@sideeswipe9 сағат бұрын
@@Ghajestisthe hog rework made him more versatile how in the world is that horrendous
@thenewsatinbobcat55756 сағат бұрын
Honestly, it makes sense why a good number of dps weren't changed, as now most tanks either have fewer defenses or less hp, making it so tanks are more on the back foot and playing more defensively than aggressively.
@cavalierjose82058 сағат бұрын
Why remove some tank changes but keep hp pool changes and dps/support changes when they are trying to see if 6v6 fit the current Ow2? Thats seems dumb.
@alexvp93446 сағат бұрын
Bc there isn’t any obvious bias towards any role in particular, much less to a character in particular :D
@Kameかめ-e4 сағат бұрын
This is why they're testing. See what works and what doesn't.
@cavalierjose82054 сағат бұрын
@Kameかめ-e they point still stand, they wanna check current Ow, why would they start with some changes from old Ow. Cause then it would feel bias for a role.
@cavalierjose82054 сағат бұрын
@alexvp9344 Yeah, I feel that. Sadly my main role now its getting full of dust cause i dont play it anymore.
@H2KUR3N9 сағат бұрын
has been waiting for KarQ quality vid
@vexthepichu2268 сағат бұрын
"For Symmetra, no changes" You can pinpoint the exact moment when my heart broke
@lesliejacoby91377 сағат бұрын
@@vexthepichu226 what changes does she need?
@somebodyrandom39056 сағат бұрын
@@lesliejacoby9137 she definitely needs an increase in her damage for her turrets
@vexthepichu2265 сағат бұрын
@@lesliejacoby9137 Let's see... > More range on beam (because it's shorter than MOIRA AND ZARYA) > More damage on beam (because it's less than ZARYA AT FULL) > More HP and HP regen (because it's less than Reaper and Mei) There's a couple of things that can change
@defaultdan79234 сағат бұрын
@@vexthepichu226 unfortunately, symmetra is one of the heros they kinda can't buff. just because of the nature of her kit, she is a map dependent hero. while buffing her so that her performance averages out seems like a good idea, the end result is that she ends up viable on every map and broken on some, which is what happened a few seasons ago. it sucks, but unless they rework symmetra sometime, it's unlikely she'll be buffed.
@lesliejacoby91374 сағат бұрын
@@somebodyrandom3905 that's fine honestly
@helios16289 сағат бұрын
Bro this patch finally looks fire i wasnt really into 6v6 coming back but this is so good
@Danlight19113 сағат бұрын
Played a couple matches and man it feels SOOOOO fucking good being able to actually damage tanks. Makes me wonder why Blizzard thought 5v5 was ever a good idea.
@JUNKIIIIIIIE8 сағат бұрын
"For junkrat.. No changes" Its a good day for some mayhem >:3
@SFS_DEATHСағат бұрын
Reinhard with only one fire strike wow and the made him less mobile again I don't understand why like just let him drift pls he doesn't need to be that clunky
@deku_vt5 сағат бұрын
Genji should've deserve a small buff honestly, give back his old shuriken damage. Mans doin the same damage as bap
@DipwadDeluxe7 сағат бұрын
I’m not gonna lie, when I heard about 6v6 coming I was excited, but I wanted to play Overwatch 2 6v6 with all the changes they made to some of the heroes (ex: Rein charge steer) not Overwatch 1 6v6. This doesn’t feel very different from Overwatch 1 and I feel like with the massive QoL changes they’ve made to some heroes being reverted in this patch for this mode makes the game feel older, not new and fresh like how the team strives to make their game.
@m.artifex20019 сағат бұрын
No idea why so many of the tank reworks got reverted. Hog trap, rein steering, zarya double bubble, and ball shield sharing don't seem like things that couldn't have just had number changes. Hell, atp just revert ALL the reworks. Not like the point of this was to see how modern ow2 could work with 6v6.
@canovanthecanman8 сағат бұрын
Except Sombra
@Abby_Affchen8 сағат бұрын
Cause all of those helped those characters be raid bosses in 5v5. So you'd want to nerf the tanks since 6v6 in OW1 was very much about tank synergy
@heitorholanda62608 сағат бұрын
Zarya Double bubble would be broken
@snewp_e21398 сағат бұрын
There is no way you people cant comprehend how busted these abilities would be in 6v6. Granting extra health, guaranteeing a kill with the hog trap, and nearly 5 seconds of invulnerability for zarya is wayy too strong in 6v6. Rein steering should’ve been kept though
@Dolceandgabana8 сағат бұрын
@@snewp_e2139 if you paid attention... Hog got his one shot back.. I'm a hog main, and I'm not too happy about it, because we had to lose the trap for it. The trap made for a lot of cool plays, that people just don't think about. I use trap to cut off enemies, I guide supports into ones I have left to get an easy secure. Use the trap to make sure my team isn't getting flanked. The trap was a great ability; and most good hogs don't use it just to get the one shot.
@thatonelenny8 сағат бұрын
Close enough Welcome back 6v6
@BenzyOW8 сағат бұрын
I don't like that they removed cool reworks and the tank passives, to me that was a large motivation of wanting to try out 6v6. I don't want to go back to the old overwatch, I want to see how 6v6 would play out with the new stuff. As a Zarya main it's gonna hurt not having the shared bubble cooldown anymore
@nebulous92807 сағат бұрын
Nah, in a solo environment it seems like it'll suck but Zarya was always best with Tanks that want to play aggro and can easily charge her bubble. Now we have the option for Ram Zarya.
@gobbagoo7 сағат бұрын
zaryas one of the only tanks that i think shouldve had the changes reverted since she could really be hard busted with the option to bubble the other tank twice in a row
@cantu72149 сағат бұрын
the patch seems terrible when reading it, but it actually feels better than 5v5 ever did
@Jimpx698 сағат бұрын
Gotta love how genji still gets nothing since season 9 :D
@lesliejacoby91379 сағат бұрын
Doomfist sounds miserable. The dmg and self sustain should have been nerfed, not his ability to move around which is what makes him doomfist. Also we Orisa nerfs for 6v6, its peak! 😂 Edit: he actually doesn't feel that bad, pretty good honestly
@HyunJuneCho-ul9ib9 сағат бұрын
the slam ability cooldown 8 secs 😂 doom mains are so done
@azzy92935 сағат бұрын
@@HyunJuneCho-ul9ibdevs are so out of touch
@RRRRRRRRR333 сағат бұрын
Yep, the basic archetype of the character is how he moves around and brawl, but without the shoryuken and now the slam at 8 seconds, they killed his design once again, lol it's a shame because I was sure Marvel Rivals would copy the dps Doomfist design when developing Iron Fist (it's so obvious, the whole point of both characters is the "one punch is all need" cliche), but nope, they actually came up with their own brawler design that looks and feels way worse than dps Doomfist. So yep, it's officially dead, that concept of a tryhard combo based dps who can "roll out" and eventually one shots with a charged punch, this concept is dead for good. Some will rejoice, others will be sad... in the end, a waste all the same
@kozybunni9 сағат бұрын
so, essentially just a bunch of tank nerfs (some hp buffs), a couple of dps buffs, and a couple of support buffs. i love being a tank main :')
@papakenj9 сағат бұрын
I mean you gotta realize that most games only had 1 tank and now with two tanks you’re gonna have to nerf them or else tanks are just gonna dominate every round because currently they feel like overglorified dps with huge health pools in 5v5
@YazzPott9 сағат бұрын
Some of the HP “buffs” are misleading. In this video for example, he has JQ goes from 375 HP to 425, but thats her open queue HP, not her role queue. So its actually an HP NERF not buff.
@kozybunni9 сағат бұрын
@ yeah, but all tanks are at their open queue hp in 6v6, unless i’m mistaken
@nebulous92807 сағат бұрын
Consider the following: There are now two of you. Witness the horror of Rein/Ram Lucio/Juno.
@kozybunni5 сағат бұрын
@@nebulous9280 i mean yeah, but we still have the same amount of healers to rely on, and some of them didn’t get buffs
@vinnt_tnniv8 сағат бұрын
2:50 THE HAHA BUTTON!
@jaydinthegod3 сағат бұрын
Played doom only in this and got off after 2 games. You literally die within 1 second not even kidding. Has to be the worst he’s ever been. If this was a real mode he would be f tier
@overheat22029 сағат бұрын
Thanks, for doing all the work all the time. Nothing is better than your patchnotes videos.
@purplewine73625 сағат бұрын
I am confused. Why is the HP of most tanks increased from 5v5 to 6v6?
@enesutku343 сағат бұрын
its not rolelock HPs those are openqueue HPs
@Marween9 сағат бұрын
Man… just give me back old DPS Doomfist.
@VtrBiscoito4 сағат бұрын
Just play Venture bro, it feels pretty much the same
@abdo-32594 сағат бұрын
@@VtrBiscoito no it does not
@statingcoast37373 сағат бұрын
Yea because old doom staying on top of building dropping down and instakill one of my support is so fun
@RRRRRRRRR333 сағат бұрын
@@VtrBiscoito Nope, not even close
@jaydinthegod3 сағат бұрын
@@statingcoast3737it was fun
@Kevowz10 сағат бұрын
Why would them reverse Roadhog rework?
@Ghajestis9 сағат бұрын
i imagine for two reasons: 1. the rework was horrible, everyone agrees on that 2. the rework was designed to make him work better in 5v5, and his old kit is just better for 6v6
@BeastMode-bw2ry8 сағат бұрын
Because old hog was way better and had a way higher skill ceiling, was more fun, and wasn't as bad to play against unlike new hog.
7 сағат бұрын
@@Ghajestisrework was good and only people who whine for the sake of hearing their own voice actually disliked it. Added a tonne of depth to his kit
7 сағат бұрын
@@BeastMode-bw2ry”old hog had a way higher skill ceiling” okay so we’re just lying now huh
@buckledben37 минут бұрын
I think they should remake pigpen. It should be a reworked into a deterrent tool you can place next to your ana/zen to help them if they get jumped by a flankers.
@GringoHisopo19938 сағат бұрын
Only thing they missed is to put doom back to dps (?)
@victortestacarliniСағат бұрын
It looks like they changed their minds midway through the patch and started balancing two sepparate games, one for OW veterans to have some nostalgia gameplay and some for new players to test 1 more player in the match. Worst part is that they ended up doing neither... Some heroes get reverted to OW1 (Hog), some keep OW2 kits (Orisa), some get just straight up nerfed "because nerf tanks" (tank Doom), and some get buffed in areas that DON'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE TEST (Rein getting MORE shield and less control on charge in a mode with MORE tanks).
@bianglegaming11273 сағат бұрын
Supports' passive regen in the main game kicks in after 2.5 seconds rather than 5, but what about this mode? Is it 7 for them too, or is it also just plus 2 seconds (4.5) or half the time of other roles still (3.5)?
@introjeff4 сағат бұрын
Get ready for lots of kitsunes
@ОленаГалацан7 сағат бұрын
I personally was waiting for Orissa's bongo to be back and also her right click. It was so fun to play! At least for nostalgia they could've brought it back.
@Protectorofgod7 сағат бұрын
Bongo was kinda bad to be honest they just need another ult for her
@ayth10273 сағат бұрын
Why they didn't change DPS's hp ? it's like Doom or JQ have almost the same hp as Torb (especially with his E where he has 400 hp), Mei or Reaper. I feel thoses dps will be much tankier and have more survavibility than the actual tanks we have in this mode, even in arcade where you can play multiple tanks Torb use to have more hp with his E than Doomfist have. This patch feels like they just MASS nerf tanks hp and resistance and some cooldowns overall which is great because we have 2 tanks, but please do the same for dps, they are supposed to be squishies btw.
@Drop0sauce9 сағат бұрын
My issue is the majority who don’t want ow to die are the players who spent ridiculous amounts of money then double downed and threw blizzard MORE MONEY even they they gave zero fucks about there player base I had a game like this but it had competition drop and they stayed with the pay for hero’s and pricy skins on only characters they thought would sell and buff those characters out of proportion just to sell you a skin marvel can follow suit
@TormodSteinsholt52 минут бұрын
I'd wish Rein would've been viewed more favorably. Iconic character and hasn't been meta for ages.
@Aregulargameplayer9 сағат бұрын
People being so confused about Tanks getting nerfed, like what? Tanks in 5v5 are raid bosses, you can't have 2 of them in 6v6.
@You_are_wrong997 сағат бұрын
This video will show who have played ow1 or ow2.
@jakebot6667 сағат бұрын
some of these should NOT have been changed. it shouldnt have been decided to change roadhog so massively and nerf rein charge such a weird amount
@kozybunni9 сағат бұрын
that take a breather animation is so scuffed
@hyuugajayСағат бұрын
At this point, we are just playing 2022 OW1. A ton of these changes were completely unnecessary and were NOT the problem with the character. Hog should always have kept pig pen. It wasn't what made him annoying. His Take a breather NOT having a cooldown and him having 800 HP was the problem. Them also keeping the DPS hp the same is also ridiculous as the HP buff was done to compensate for the lack of a tank. (except for buffing widow like why blizz, I have 236+ hrs on widow, but seeing ZERO changes to her counters and then BUFFING her is just stupid.) Most, if not ALL of the current OW2 abilities could work in 6v6, but they just need some numbers adjustments. I can see blizzard is trying, but they gotta listen to what people want right now. Removing rein 2nd fire strike is just stupid at this point because it, along with most of these changes, were NOT the issue people had with the heroes.
@mixrm0n8 сағат бұрын
6v6 "Modern format" from Overwatch 1
@ВасилийШилов-ч2г9 сағат бұрын
You mentioned about less sleep duration on tanks, but what about nade? Is nade also back to normal or its steel reduced duration?
@oj3_oj3575 сағат бұрын
That’s not a thing it’s only sleep that has reduction
@josjos-x5s43 минут бұрын
I've noticed zarya and ram stomp a lot as tank in this mode.
@johnnyawsm894226 минут бұрын
Hazard is made for 6v6. So fun to play him with another tank
@nugo3442 сағат бұрын
Sojourn and sombra not getting any changes is crazy...
@Fantilow8 сағат бұрын
it's so hard to find info : how long does it last ? is it only for streamer. No I can't log in right now
@Guile_The_Exile8 сағат бұрын
Wow Rein and JunkQueen really got beat up here... And no changes for Genji or Junkrat?! Bruh...
@dcidperezdomiguez94115 минут бұрын
Bring back lootboxes and we are back in OW1
@drpaperbag640510 сағат бұрын
im sittin here liking these changes and just realized this video dropped 5mins ago
@tylerj99504 сағат бұрын
Literally 'Oh yeah lets keep the projectile changes from s9 for no reason' Blizz has some speds in it I swear
@RRRRRRRRR333 сағат бұрын
That's what made me laugh right at the get go, so these Pixar wannabes will keep shooting bricks instead of bullets? The game will remain a dumbed down dps festival regardless if it is 5v5 or 6v6. Luckily Marvel Rivals arrived, it's vastly superior than Overwatch in every way (even compared with Overwatch at it's peak, day 1 Rivals >>> 2022ish Overwatch
@SSADO-5 сағат бұрын
wait so why is rein's shield getting increased? the fact there's a possibility for a sigma or a ramattra to make double shield and they buff shields?
@doctorwalmart3 сағат бұрын
"for venture, we forgot"
@samasaurus65 сағат бұрын
Wouldn't it have been better to use RQ tank health to compare to? e.g. Doomfist has 525 health in 5v5 RQ, but 425 in 6v6. Also the recent hotfix doesn't affect 6v6, so Sojourn isn't nerfed in this mode. (And imo is pretty good)
@enesutku343 сағат бұрын
there are two test this is the first one other one has RQ
@newbornkilik4 сағат бұрын
I'm glad for the test, but I feel most of the tanks are gonna feel clunky. Like it seems they learned a lot about the game in the last few seasons and that just kind of out the window.
@Lord_Lumpi2 сағат бұрын
Can't wait to test it out but as usually... some changes probably happend because of a dice roll.
@flock89034 сағат бұрын
Aint played OW in ages. Been waiting for this 6V6 trial. Time to re-download the game, before uninstalling it after the trial unless 6V6 replaces 5V5.
@tspooner012 сағат бұрын
Genji getting no changes is wild. They absolutely hate that character
@nugo3442 сағат бұрын
4:25 excuse me this is 6v6 testing, not ow classic, hazard is in there what are they doing
@joaquinleyva68694 сағат бұрын
I cried on the inside when I realized that doomfist would stay as a tank
@KoobyKarasu6 сағат бұрын
And here's the part where everyone realizes a lot of the changes Tanks had in OW2 that made them so much more fun to play with were just so they were functional as solo Tanks and now that they need to function as a duo your individual value as a Tank is gonna be way less.
@peachybreeze4 сағат бұрын
It’s almost like that’s the entire point. What did you think you were exposing here?
@KoobyKarasu4 сағат бұрын
@@peachybreeze A lot of people claimed that "6v6 will make Tank fun again", which it clearly does not and I hope this 6v6 test makes people realize that (Atleast this 2-2-2 format, I'd be willing to also give the Max 3 format a try) 6v6 just makes the issue of "Tank not being fun" still exist just in a different way.
@yuehan67113 сағат бұрын
@@KoobyKarasuExactly, the rose colored glasses are insane on people. So many clips in ow1 of rein failing to catch Cass stun over the shield and getting nuked in that half a second. Dont understand how people think ow1 tanks are more fun than ow2 tanks. If theyre able to find a happy medium in this 6v6 mode though that would be great.
@thelambbro8 сағат бұрын
Illari’s change’s should carry over into actual gameplay
@rdr19733 сағат бұрын
I don’t like how all the tanks are getting extensive nerfs while dps that tanks have problematic matchups into Echo, Torb, Cass, Ana are getting extensive buffs Im just thankfull they didn’t buff bastion. The Devs seem to want to return to a version of balance where tanks are oppressed instead of equal
@GoogleLogin-xi8sy6 сағат бұрын
Never played 6v6 but I’m having a blast so far
@kelvinzaragoza73313 сағат бұрын
So basically they went back from OW2 to OW1 but without our promised lootboxes for those who paid the game and without the PVE
@defaultdan79234 сағат бұрын
i thought i'd enjoy this much more than i did when it came to other roles, but on supp and dps it was mildly better. not bad at all, though, especially since this is literally the first 6v6 patch. what i did notice straight away is that tank felt leagues better to play out the gate. i think i'm sold on 6v6 lol edit: somehow put tank instead of dps in the first sentence
@therealduelist83976 сағат бұрын
Im gonna be honest while its fun playing off tank again and flanning with ball, some tanks need some love real bad. My friend was playing jq was getting melted so bad she had to swap to start having fun, and it sucks to because jq is her main aswell. Iive playing hog but the hog we have now feels so boring and stale, placing pig pens doen in strategical areas and punishing over extension made me happy on hog, I understand take a breather needed its nerf but get ing rid of pig pen? Seriously? Not to mention geting rid of a firestrike and the 50% steering nerf on rein were so unnecessary. The ball sharing shields to allie might be warranted but it brought me joy when i could peel for one of my teammates by diving in and sharing shields with them. I know that last one might be biased on my part but i still miss it. I really feel like they think when we ask for 6v6 they think we mean shitty ow1 tank stats but ow2 made so many tanks evolve fun and unique tools and gameplans that ,while yes needed significant tuning, could have been easily implemented into a 6v6 format I understand that with 2 tanks, their responsibilitys/tools need to be equally distributed amongst 2 players, but i feel as if it could've been executed in a more cohesive form consistent to their 5v5 counterparts illbeit tuned for 6v6.
@darcidious997 сағат бұрын
Which patch notes lets me play as venom?
@itsali6549 сағат бұрын
Junkerqueen got gutted her like at least do 1.25x
@AfroDeity03 сағат бұрын
Ofc they decide to eviscerate doomfist
@Alphawolvess3 сағат бұрын
When is the patch to remove the 2 in the game title?
@monke_gaming24199 сағат бұрын
whats the point of some of these changes, roadhog was reworked for a reason and like overall quality of life changes should stay
@BeastMode-bw2ry8 сағат бұрын
QoL? They didn't do anything QoL for Hog at all. It was just to make him fit in 5v5 better and even then it didn't do that at all. It is just a dogshit rework and that's me saying this as a Hog otp.
@RRRRRRRRR333 сағат бұрын
It's silly because they are willing to bring back one shot Roadhog, but the horrendous "tank" Doomfist will remain a thing? Make up your mind Blizzard, be logical and straightforward instead of being chaotic
@AmalgamJiena19 минут бұрын
Blizzard, please never let zarya stack her bubbles again
@Elijah_Elias6 сағат бұрын
My Crusader can’t catch a break man ☹️
@Golden_Zeke7 сағат бұрын
As a hog main, you better watch yo back, cuz im flanking again. Im so happy...
@RRRRRRRRR333 сағат бұрын
I guess the only people happy with these changes are Hog, Hammond and most likely Ana players. After all, Ana continues to shoot bricks instead of bullets, now against two big targets and the self-healing remains a thing, Ana will be so broken in this test. Kiriko as well, but that is a understatement
@NadirON6 сағат бұрын
This is not 6v6 in OW2, this is "what if ow1 had these new heroes?" and that's it. This is not proving any point they wanted to, it's impossibile to judge if 6v6 is useful or not by these. What do they think are doing by giving Rein 2000 shield and keeping Doomfist's CDs untouched... he stuns more than when he was a dps...
@wizzzer133751 минут бұрын
I didn't like how they made the changes from open queue to 6v6 role lock. It's confusing because ppl are used to 5v5.
@mekookami8 сағат бұрын
Its so hard to bring myself to care anymore
@mikeegomez831548 минут бұрын
Holy crap my ears are in paaaainn but good content. Thank god for captions