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Overwatch 2 - EVERY HERO CHANGE for the Official 6v6 Mode

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KarQ

KarQ

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@KarQ
@KarQ 10 сағат бұрын
Extensive list of changes, I need some time to gather my thoughts after I play it. My early thoughts are there are some inconsistencies on what they brought back vs what they kept modern. Example is Rein charge steering, idk why they reversed it they shoulda kept that.
@french_toast223
@french_toast223 9 сағат бұрын
Anything but extensive. Shouldve just removed all the garabge reworks they did.
@lesliejacoby9137
@lesliejacoby9137 9 сағат бұрын
Sombra getting no changes at all also feels weird
@lesliejacoby9137
@lesliejacoby9137 9 сағат бұрын
@french_toast223 first Sombra one was good and I think new bastion just needs his old ult
@hoangDo-jh2eg
@hoangDo-jh2eg 5 сағат бұрын
Marvel rivals is kings
@dbz6483
@dbz6483 4 сағат бұрын
Shared bubbles is so much than individual bubbles
@bendubz9000
@bendubz9000 8 сағат бұрын
Ah, back to the days of Soldier bouncing between 19 and 20 damage per shot every patch
@nebulous9280
@nebulous9280 7 сағат бұрын
Same with Ana and the 70-75 Damage. 75 Damage is too strong, 70 Damage is too weak. They need to just make it 72.5 or something and call it. Same with Soldier, go for 19.5.
@ZombieaidZ
@ZombieaidZ 7 сағат бұрын
I seen that and thought the same. Brought me back
@coldspice5873
@coldspice5873 7 сағат бұрын
@@nebulous9280honestly I’m all for it
@JoofusTheBoofus
@JoofusTheBoofus 6 сағат бұрын
@@nebulous9280 that wouldn't do anything, the reason they change it so often is cause it determines how many shots to kill a target, Ana at 75 can 3 shot a 225 hero, where as at 70 its a 4 shot. increasing it by 2.5 doesn't change anything since it will still be a 4 shot to kill. soldiers in a lot less important since he fires more shots per second then ana but same rule applies, 19.5 wouldn't make the difference needed.
@QutelDawn
@QutelDawn 5 сағат бұрын
@@JoofusTheBoofus This doesn't account for already accumalted damage on a target.
@roccomstar1550
@roccomstar1550 10 сағат бұрын
I find it funny how Karq still uses the 3d model of echo and not her 2d portrait
@chb_dlx
@chb_dlx 9 сағат бұрын
And Brig’s too on some of his old vids. Her portrait doesnt have her hair thingy
@roccomstar1550
@roccomstar1550 9 сағат бұрын
@ it shouldn’t because her ow2 skin doesn’t have it
@nynsho2326
@nynsho2326 9 сағат бұрын
to be fair, her 2d portrait (reutilized from ow1) makes her look like garbage the face proportions are not even close to the actual model either
@m.artifex2001
@m.artifex2001 9 сағат бұрын
​@@roccomstar1550 ow2 brig does have her hair things. They had to update the icon bc it was a mistake that they were gone
@roccomstar1550
@roccomstar1550 9 сағат бұрын
@ the overwatch 2 default brig skin does not have the crown thing. The icon had it by mistake and they had to remove it because the skin doesn’t have it anymore.
@Monarch280
@Monarch280 10 сағат бұрын
Saw Flats' video on the patch notes earlier, said nah and waited for the goat KarQ instead.
@zaboomawho
@zaboomawho 9 сағат бұрын
yeah i clicked off the vid when he started flaming his chat lol
@rfewer
@rfewer 9 сағат бұрын
⁠@@zaboomawhoDUDE ME TOO LMAO. Like just read the patch notes and stop getting rage baited by your chat, causing you to go on a 10 minute passive aggressive tangent
@tomnguyen1551
@tomnguyen1551 9 сағат бұрын
Can someone fill me in on what went down in Flats' video? Was he dragging the video? Going on an unscathed rant? Just curious.
@MrBisonorus
@MrBisonorus 9 сағат бұрын
@@tomnguyen1551basically a combo of being ragebaited by chat and the chat yelling about ads or something idk
@phimholmes6013
@phimholmes6013 9 сағат бұрын
glaze LOL
@angrybirdsbrawl1335
@angrybirdsbrawl1335 8 сағат бұрын
Junker Queen, having her passive at 1X self-heal is a crime. It should be a 1.5X self-healing passive.
@bruhvibes5941
@bruhvibes5941 3 сағат бұрын
Agreed, I played her and she’s not bad but I can’t really mitigate damage.
@libelous6417
@libelous6417 3 сағат бұрын
With 2 tanks she’d have a LOT of self heal. 1x or 1.25x at most but 2 tanks is basically 2x anyways
@ВасилийШилов-ч2г
@ВасилийШилов-ч2г 9 сағат бұрын
God i hate going back and forth with hog in settings with this classic and 6v6 mode and normal, its such a mess to change his control buttons between versions
7 сағат бұрын
Fr there was literally no reason to revert the trap it added a lot of depth to his kit beyond just cheesy one shots
@Ultimatum227
@Ultimatum227 4 сағат бұрын
Honestly, after playing Hog since 2017, I would prefer if they just go back to his original kit like in 6v6. His secondary fire just feels so good to use. I'd rather keep that instead of the trap's kill pressure. You have 5 other players to follow-up on the hooks so it's not even necessary.
@revan3270
@revan3270 3 сағат бұрын
@@Ultimatum227FACTS
@bambampewpew32
@bambampewpew32 2 сағат бұрын
@guy who literally doesn't have a name Nah trap is fun to use kinda I guess but it's just kinda a gimmick
@bradyb1604
@bradyb1604 Сағат бұрын
I came here to comment the exact same thing. Frankly, that’s just bad game design. Newer players that don’t keep up with balance patches like more long-term fans are going to be very confused and probably frustrated when one of the characters they play has an entirely different kit/play style between 5v5 and 6v6 when everyone else stays the same
@SurPriseOw
@SurPriseOw 10 сағат бұрын
"for genji... no changes"
@BlueIcee40
@BlueIcee40 8 сағат бұрын
I wish junk and bastion got changed too but maybe they will be good with an extra tank. An extra tank will not help genji rip
@fernald2201
@fernald2201 8 сағат бұрын
So I, moira players.. we rejoice hunting genji once more
@cursedfl4mes645
@cursedfl4mes645 7 сағат бұрын
Good😊
@sakitoshi
@sakitoshi 7 сағат бұрын
and that is why they should nerf genji. it's a joke.
@easyoffbam305
@easyoffbam305 5 сағат бұрын
as usual, even though he was nerfed specifically for 5v5...
@omegamkx588
@omegamkx588 8 сағат бұрын
I was hoping that Rein would keep the double Firestrike and they’d just lower the damage on it. It feel really good to be able to have a little flexibility on his only ranged option
@Lord_Lumpi
@Lord_Lumpi 2 сағат бұрын
I missed that part, double fire strike is so much more enjoyable :(
@bambampewpew32
@bambampewpew32 2 сағат бұрын
Nah I'd much rather have the 1 stronger firestrike, because of the bap window clips
@bambampewpew32
@bambampewpew32 2 сағат бұрын
@@Lord_Lumpi but the bap clips
@Legokillen51
@Legokillen51 10 сағат бұрын
”Wait so OW2 was just a micro transaction update?” Always has been
@onur6020
@onur6020 9 сағат бұрын
And there's nothing micro about it, 50$+ avatar skin bundle anyone ?
@AchedSphinx
@AchedSphinx 9 сағат бұрын
yeah...when ow1 improved the lootboxes that lost the money. year 1 when the lootboxes were at their worst they made so much bank every publisher wanted to be them. then fortnite came along and figured you could create a battlepass, make people play the game to complete the battlepass and while they're doing that perhaps they'll consider buying something in the MTX store. now everyone does that to varying success. but yeah ow2 was made to make money again with a more efficient strategy.
@TrueOracle
@TrueOracle 9 сағат бұрын
@@onur6020 That's kinda the point of a bundle, to bulk buy all the skins at a discounted price than if you bought them separately. I think it's more fair to go after individual skin price than bundle price. People just go after bundles for shock value.
@tgregi
@tgregi 9 сағат бұрын
If they dont give us 6v6, rage. When they do, make fun of them. Its free game so..
@Drop0sauce
@Drop0sauce 9 сағат бұрын
@@AchedSphinxnot even close they see how much players are paying for shitty mobile games and are following suit that’s why a lot of games start looking similar to mobile gotcha games in your face with the fake sales and new skins with little to no reward for f2p players
@jacksparrow11h
@jacksparrow11h 9 сағат бұрын
"For genji, no changes." That actually hurts dude
@theflyingtomahawk1625
@theflyingtomahawk1625 8 сағат бұрын
Yeah and it's funny that Echo now can copy a full hp tank and does more dmg vs all with Beam. Cass who is already very good vs tanks and Soldier both get dps upgrades. Meanwhile Genji whose job is even harder now, gets no changes. Lmao
@_V.Va_
@_V.Va_ 7 сағат бұрын
So what? Several other DPS got no changes, some even got nerfs.
@Arkere
@Arkere 7 сағат бұрын
Devs hate skill based heroes
@erjohn5404
@erjohn5404 7 сағат бұрын
This is proof that they don't care about community.
@MusicalBlam
@MusicalBlam 3 сағат бұрын
Genji's identity is clearer in 6v6. 6v6 in and of itself is a genji buff
@effeilar887
@effeilar887 9 сағат бұрын
Widow buff to 225hp is criminal
@drucy.
@drucy. 9 сағат бұрын
Literally changes nothing. She's cooked basically just as quick once you get near her. And if you engage her at range, that's on you for being stupid.
@5falltv895
@5falltv895 9 сағат бұрын
2 tanks means she can get dived again, it'll be aight
@paulakroy2635
@paulakroy2635 8 сағат бұрын
Two tanks means she had actual counters
@throwaray
@throwaray 8 сағат бұрын
Frogger is crying rn
7 сағат бұрын
@@throwarayFrogger throws for content anyways I’m sure he’ll live
@mikasa-ul8vz
@mikasa-ul8vz 9 сағат бұрын
2:51 The HAHA BUTTON 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@Bronster
@Bronster 8 сағат бұрын
Very interesting they changed hog back so much, but kept some other OW2 changes, like ranged zap cannon.
@gobbagoo
@gobbagoo 7 сағат бұрын
i dont get why they would revert some of the tank changes like reins 2 firestrikes but keep some other changes, most of the ow2 tank reworks were a positive imo and removing that makes them feel worse to play
@FenHin44
@FenHin44 6 сағат бұрын
Because there will be 2 tanks in the team now
@gobbagoo
@gobbagoo Сағат бұрын
@@FenHin44 yea but some of the changes like hog reverting make him less fun to play against, while keeping monkeys 2nd fire means he feels exactly the same as ow2 which is more fun for players
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 3 сағат бұрын
10:31 "millions", are you sure about that?
@davidarzola7341
@davidarzola7341 Сағат бұрын
Yes ow2 still have millions of active players
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 Сағат бұрын
@davidarzola7341 Sure thing buddy
@egel7736
@egel7736 54 минут бұрын
@@RRRRRRRRR33 I mean, I don't think that's far-fetched at all. OW2 is still massively popular, on both console and PC (Battle Net/Steam). I know we're stuck in this annoying ass Rivals/OW2 war thingy for the coming months, but the narrative around OW2 especially is incredibly skewed.
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 40 минут бұрын
@@egel7736 There's 20k people playing this game right now on Steam (the 6v6 test is already in effect, right? Along with the lame ass new character that I forgot the name already). Even if you pick this number and multiply it by 50, it will not get even close to "millions". Rivals did not kill anything, Overwatch killed itself. The extreme negativity, low number of players, low number of viewers on Twitch as well (niched to say the least, but at least the platform is open), etc.. to really assume this game has 1 million active players, that is already disingenuous, but to say "millions", lol c'mon, that's ridiculous and delusional
@leadpoisoned45
@leadpoisoned45 6 сағат бұрын
Ngl they could have gotten away with not changing doom at all
@mrboombasy3301
@mrboombasy3301 4 сағат бұрын
they have no idea how to balance doom im convinced no one on the balance team plays him
@AkshayKumarX
@AkshayKumarX Сағат бұрын
​@@mrboombasy3301What would you your suggested changes be?
@M1LKMAN
@M1LKMAN Сағат бұрын
​@@AkshayKumarXwall climb on a 2 hour cooldown
@DNYLNY
@DNYLNY 8 сағат бұрын
It’s super fun. Merry Christmas everyone!
@VtrBiscoito
@VtrBiscoito 4 сағат бұрын
Unmerry Christma for you >:(
@sortakindageese
@sortakindageese 10 сағат бұрын
Let’s see if this is going to be playable or not.
@overlordalfredo
@overlordalfredo 10 сағат бұрын
Unlikely... 😢 Very sad
@theintruder6085
@theintruder6085 9 сағат бұрын
No it wont be
@kemmy5444
@kemmy5444 8 сағат бұрын
it’s really good. loving it so far.
@Cr4nched
@Cr4nched 7 сағат бұрын
@@kemmy5444 Maybe wait longer than a few hours to assess.... 😑
@_Dakchad
@_Dakchad 6 сағат бұрын
@@Cr4nchednah its gas
@oracle_san5942
@oracle_san5942 9 сағат бұрын
Wow they really don’t want any kind of queen players anywhere with how much they’re massacring her
@joshquain
@joshquain 8 сағат бұрын
Welcome to the life of a junkrat main
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul 8 сағат бұрын
they nerfed queen in season 13 ending you all screamed tiktok comments were like "i just learnt jq and they gutted her" and 2 weeks after queen is fine and the same you people have a Severe problem of overreacting before knowing anything
@kayden232ou
@kayden232ou 8 сағат бұрын
​@@Bad3abdulYOU PEOPLE!?
@Bad3abdul
@Bad3abdul 7 сағат бұрын
@@kayden232ou she's fine
7 сағат бұрын
Which is hilarious considering the fan base want Reinhardt to be perma meta when he’s an easy knuckedragger hero and queen actually requires skill and execution to use Queen, Sigma and Winston would be be the premier tanks in a perfect world
@8UMadBro8
@8UMadBro8 9 сағат бұрын
I am very convinced Blizzard just throws random numbers for balance... hopefully they tune the balance rather than thinking 6v6 is a failure when people only play a few games
@Abby_Affchen
@Abby_Affchen 8 сағат бұрын
It actually is fun
@8UMadBro8
@8UMadBro8 8 сағат бұрын
@@Abby_Affchen what roles do you play? I feel like it's enjoyable for a little but it wouldn't last with this balance, especially with how poorly they tried to change tanks
@Omar04x
@Omar04x 8 сағат бұрын
Nah, a lot of them make sense, like the Zenyatta changes are godlike balancing that should come to 5v5 too.
@Abby_Affchen
@Abby_Affchen 8 сағат бұрын
@@8UMadBro8 I come from OW1, but I play tank. It only feels miserable if your positioning is bad or if your other tank doesn't know what tank synergy is. When 2 tanks know what they're doing it feels oppressive towards the other roles. I've mainly been playing with my duo with rein Zarya and Winston dva and we are having a lot of fun and dominating Tanks needed to be nerfed for 6v6 since they were gigabuffed for 5v5.
@GortinTime
@GortinTime 8 сағат бұрын
Thinking 6v6 will be a failure because of the actual balance instead of accepting 5v5 is more fun for 90% of the playerbase is an interesting coping mechanism
@SylveonShihoin
@SylveonShihoin 9 сағат бұрын
Tracer back at 12 meter fall off is massive. It was bugged for the longest at that range before the devs noticed and was a lot safer to play
@thechocolatedonut7216
@thechocolatedonut7216 7 сағат бұрын
I thought it was bugged to be 25 and it was SUPPOSED to be 12
@SylveonShihoin
@SylveonShihoin 7 сағат бұрын
@@thechocolatedonut7216 oh really!? LOL
@defaultdan7923
@defaultdan7923 4 сағат бұрын
is it just me or is it still not enough? i might just be cooked but she feels kinda weak
@Imabanana847
@Imabanana847 7 сағат бұрын
"25% crit damage is removed" THANK FUCKING GOD
@Ghajestis
@Ghajestis 9 сағат бұрын
i'm concerned about bap in this mode. he's gonna be able to do a LOT of healing, which means more amp matrices, which probably means double shield might make a return for a bit
@gravityhacks1879
@gravityhacks1879 9 сағат бұрын
This just goes for supps that are able to deal splash/aoe healing, not limited to bap
@maramba32
@maramba32 8 сағат бұрын
Double shield was possible because of orisa and sigma. They are mobile shields that can attack at the same time. Ram has a high cd on his shield
@Ghajestis
@Ghajestis 7 сағат бұрын
@@maramba32 yeah, when i think about it, double shield would be really hard to pull off cuz of heroes like ram, mauga, and now hazard. also orisa doesn't have her shield anymore
7 сағат бұрын
It’s almost as if the tanks were never the problem or something
7 сағат бұрын
@@GhajestisYou just run sigma/Ram now. Barrier uptime is lower, but still enough that bap can easily full heal through defensive rotations
@Skasua
@Skasua 8 сағат бұрын
This is so much more fun, 6v6 allows everyone to be more chaotic and wild, then to be defensive of losing a tank
@Thewanderingsoulskool
@Thewanderingsoulskool 8 сағат бұрын
Ball is so much better! Sooooooo much more fun
@lucifero_il_gatto
@lucifero_il_gatto 10 сағат бұрын
They should have kept the reworks, there was literally no need to remove them >:( Besides that, this should be fun
@Ghajestis
@Ghajestis 9 сағат бұрын
the only rework they removed was the horrendous hog rework
@lucifero_il_gatto
@lucifero_il_gatto 9 сағат бұрын
@ and ball and rein and zarya
@starrysky8118
@starrysky8118 9 сағат бұрын
Zarya's rework made her way too braindead. She's better with limitations.
@giuseppevaccaro7521
@giuseppevaccaro7521 9 сағат бұрын
Bro, ora ci stanno 2 tank dovevano farlo
@sideeswipe
@sideeswipe 9 сағат бұрын
@@Ghajestisthe hog rework made him more versatile how in the world is that horrendous
@thenewsatinbobcat5575
@thenewsatinbobcat5575 6 сағат бұрын
Honestly, it makes sense why a good number of dps weren't changed, as now most tanks either have fewer defenses or less hp, making it so tanks are more on the back foot and playing more defensively than aggressively.
@cavalierjose8205
@cavalierjose8205 8 сағат бұрын
Why remove some tank changes but keep hp pool changes and dps/support changes when they are trying to see if 6v6 fit the current Ow2? Thats seems dumb.
@alexvp9344
@alexvp9344 6 сағат бұрын
Bc there isn’t any obvious bias towards any role in particular, much less to a character in particular :D
@Kameかめ-e
@Kameかめ-e 4 сағат бұрын
This is why they're testing. See what works and what doesn't.
@cavalierjose8205
@cavalierjose8205 4 сағат бұрын
@Kameかめ-e they point still stand, they wanna check current Ow, why would they start with some changes from old Ow. Cause then it would feel bias for a role.
@cavalierjose8205
@cavalierjose8205 4 сағат бұрын
@alexvp9344 Yeah, I feel that. Sadly my main role now its getting full of dust cause i dont play it anymore.
@H2KUR3N
@H2KUR3N 9 сағат бұрын
has been waiting for KarQ quality vid
@vexthepichu226
@vexthepichu226 8 сағат бұрын
"For Symmetra, no changes" You can pinpoint the exact moment when my heart broke
@lesliejacoby9137
@lesliejacoby9137 7 сағат бұрын
@@vexthepichu226 what changes does she need?
@somebodyrandom3905
@somebodyrandom3905 6 сағат бұрын
@@lesliejacoby9137 she definitely needs an increase in her damage for her turrets
@vexthepichu226
@vexthepichu226 5 сағат бұрын
@@lesliejacoby9137 Let's see... > More range on beam (because it's shorter than MOIRA AND ZARYA) > More damage on beam (because it's less than ZARYA AT FULL) > More HP and HP regen (because it's less than Reaper and Mei) There's a couple of things that can change
@defaultdan7923
@defaultdan7923 4 сағат бұрын
@@vexthepichu226 unfortunately, symmetra is one of the heros they kinda can't buff. just because of the nature of her kit, she is a map dependent hero. while buffing her so that her performance averages out seems like a good idea, the end result is that she ends up viable on every map and broken on some, which is what happened a few seasons ago. it sucks, but unless they rework symmetra sometime, it's unlikely she'll be buffed.
@lesliejacoby9137
@lesliejacoby9137 4 сағат бұрын
@@somebodyrandom3905 that's fine honestly
@helios1628
@helios1628 9 сағат бұрын
Bro this patch finally looks fire i wasnt really into 6v6 coming back but this is so good
@Danlight1911
@Danlight1911 3 сағат бұрын
Played a couple matches and man it feels SOOOOO fucking good being able to actually damage tanks. Makes me wonder why Blizzard thought 5v5 was ever a good idea.
@JUNKIIIIIIIE
@JUNKIIIIIIIE 8 сағат бұрын
"For junkrat.. No changes" Its a good day for some mayhem >:3
@SFS_DEATH
@SFS_DEATH Сағат бұрын
Reinhard with only one fire strike wow and the made him less mobile again I don't understand why like just let him drift pls he doesn't need to be that clunky
@deku_vt
@deku_vt 5 сағат бұрын
Genji should've deserve a small buff honestly, give back his old shuriken damage. Mans doin the same damage as bap
@DipwadDeluxe
@DipwadDeluxe 7 сағат бұрын
I’m not gonna lie, when I heard about 6v6 coming I was excited, but I wanted to play Overwatch 2 6v6 with all the changes they made to some of the heroes (ex: Rein charge steer) not Overwatch 1 6v6. This doesn’t feel very different from Overwatch 1 and I feel like with the massive QoL changes they’ve made to some heroes being reverted in this patch for this mode makes the game feel older, not new and fresh like how the team strives to make their game.
@m.artifex2001
@m.artifex2001 9 сағат бұрын
No idea why so many of the tank reworks got reverted. Hog trap, rein steering, zarya double bubble, and ball shield sharing don't seem like things that couldn't have just had number changes. Hell, atp just revert ALL the reworks. Not like the point of this was to see how modern ow2 could work with 6v6.
@canovanthecanman
@canovanthecanman 8 сағат бұрын
Except Sombra
@Abby_Affchen
@Abby_Affchen 8 сағат бұрын
Cause all of those helped those characters be raid bosses in 5v5. So you'd want to nerf the tanks since 6v6 in OW1 was very much about tank synergy
@heitorholanda6260
@heitorholanda6260 8 сағат бұрын
Zarya Double bubble would be broken
@snewp_e2139
@snewp_e2139 8 сағат бұрын
There is no way you people cant comprehend how busted these abilities would be in 6v6. Granting extra health, guaranteeing a kill with the hog trap, and nearly 5 seconds of invulnerability for zarya is wayy too strong in 6v6. Rein steering should’ve been kept though
@Dolceandgabana
@Dolceandgabana 8 сағат бұрын
​@@snewp_e2139 if you paid attention... Hog got his one shot back.. I'm a hog main, and I'm not too happy about it, because we had to lose the trap for it. The trap made for a lot of cool plays, that people just don't think about. I use trap to cut off enemies, I guide supports into ones I have left to get an easy secure. Use the trap to make sure my team isn't getting flanked. The trap was a great ability; and most good hogs don't use it just to get the one shot.
@thatonelenny
@thatonelenny 8 сағат бұрын
Close enough Welcome back 6v6
@BenzyOW
@BenzyOW 8 сағат бұрын
I don't like that they removed cool reworks and the tank passives, to me that was a large motivation of wanting to try out 6v6. I don't want to go back to the old overwatch, I want to see how 6v6 would play out with the new stuff. As a Zarya main it's gonna hurt not having the shared bubble cooldown anymore
@nebulous9280
@nebulous9280 7 сағат бұрын
Nah, in a solo environment it seems like it'll suck but Zarya was always best with Tanks that want to play aggro and can easily charge her bubble. Now we have the option for Ram Zarya.
@gobbagoo
@gobbagoo 7 сағат бұрын
zaryas one of the only tanks that i think shouldve had the changes reverted since she could really be hard busted with the option to bubble the other tank twice in a row
@cantu7214
@cantu7214 9 сағат бұрын
the patch seems terrible when reading it, but it actually feels better than 5v5 ever did
@Jimpx69
@Jimpx69 8 сағат бұрын
Gotta love how genji still gets nothing since season 9 :D
@lesliejacoby9137
@lesliejacoby9137 9 сағат бұрын
Doomfist sounds miserable. The dmg and self sustain should have been nerfed, not his ability to move around which is what makes him doomfist. Also we Orisa nerfs for 6v6, its peak! 😂 Edit: he actually doesn't feel that bad, pretty good honestly
@HyunJuneCho-ul9ib
@HyunJuneCho-ul9ib 9 сағат бұрын
the slam ability cooldown 8 secs 😂 doom mains are so done
@azzy9293
@azzy9293 5 сағат бұрын
​@@HyunJuneCho-ul9ibdevs are so out of touch
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 3 сағат бұрын
Yep, the basic archetype of the character is how he moves around and brawl, but without the shoryuken and now the slam at 8 seconds, they killed his design once again, lol it's a shame because I was sure Marvel Rivals would copy the dps Doomfist design when developing Iron Fist (it's so obvious, the whole point of both characters is the "one punch is all need" cliche), but nope, they actually came up with their own brawler design that looks and feels way worse than dps Doomfist. So yep, it's officially dead, that concept of a tryhard combo based dps who can "roll out" and eventually one shots with a charged punch, this concept is dead for good. Some will rejoice, others will be sad... in the end, a waste all the same
@kozybunni
@kozybunni 9 сағат бұрын
so, essentially just a bunch of tank nerfs (some hp buffs), a couple of dps buffs, and a couple of support buffs. i love being a tank main :')
@papakenj
@papakenj 9 сағат бұрын
I mean you gotta realize that most games only had 1 tank and now with two tanks you’re gonna have to nerf them or else tanks are just gonna dominate every round because currently they feel like overglorified dps with huge health pools in 5v5
@YazzPott
@YazzPott 9 сағат бұрын
Some of the HP “buffs” are misleading. In this video for example, he has JQ goes from 375 HP to 425, but thats her open queue HP, not her role queue. So its actually an HP NERF not buff.
@kozybunni
@kozybunni 9 сағат бұрын
@ yeah, but all tanks are at their open queue hp in 6v6, unless i’m mistaken
@nebulous9280
@nebulous9280 7 сағат бұрын
Consider the following: There are now two of you. Witness the horror of Rein/Ram Lucio/Juno.
@kozybunni
@kozybunni 5 сағат бұрын
@@nebulous9280 i mean yeah, but we still have the same amount of healers to rely on, and some of them didn’t get buffs
@vinnt_tnniv
@vinnt_tnniv 8 сағат бұрын
2:50 THE HAHA BUTTON!
@jaydinthegod
@jaydinthegod 3 сағат бұрын
Played doom only in this and got off after 2 games. You literally die within 1 second not even kidding. Has to be the worst he’s ever been. If this was a real mode he would be f tier
@overheat2202
@overheat2202 9 сағат бұрын
Thanks, for doing all the work all the time. Nothing is better than your patchnotes videos.
@purplewine7362
@purplewine7362 5 сағат бұрын
I am confused. Why is the HP of most tanks increased from 5v5 to 6v6?
@enesutku34
@enesutku34 3 сағат бұрын
its not rolelock HPs those are openqueue HPs
@Marween
@Marween 9 сағат бұрын
Man… just give me back old DPS Doomfist.
@VtrBiscoito
@VtrBiscoito 4 сағат бұрын
Just play Venture bro, it feels pretty much the same
@abdo-3259
@abdo-3259 4 сағат бұрын
​@@VtrBiscoito no it does not
@statingcoast3737
@statingcoast3737 3 сағат бұрын
Yea because old doom staying on top of building dropping down and instakill one of my support is so fun
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 3 сағат бұрын
@@VtrBiscoito Nope, not even close
@jaydinthegod
@jaydinthegod 3 сағат бұрын
@@statingcoast3737it was fun
@Kevowz
@Kevowz 10 сағат бұрын
Why would them reverse Roadhog rework?
@Ghajestis
@Ghajestis 9 сағат бұрын
i imagine for two reasons: 1. the rework was horrible, everyone agrees on that 2. the rework was designed to make him work better in 5v5, and his old kit is just better for 6v6
@BeastMode-bw2ry
@BeastMode-bw2ry 8 сағат бұрын
Because old hog was way better and had a way higher skill ceiling, was more fun, and wasn't as bad to play against unlike new hog.
7 сағат бұрын
@@Ghajestisrework was good and only people who whine for the sake of hearing their own voice actually disliked it. Added a tonne of depth to his kit
7 сағат бұрын
@@BeastMode-bw2ry”old hog had a way higher skill ceiling” okay so we’re just lying now huh
@buckledben
@buckledben 37 минут бұрын
I think they should remake pigpen. It should be a reworked into a deterrent tool you can place next to your ana/zen to help them if they get jumped by a flankers.
@GringoHisopo1993
@GringoHisopo1993 8 сағат бұрын
Only thing they missed is to put doom back to dps (?)
@victortestacarlini
@victortestacarlini Сағат бұрын
It looks like they changed their minds midway through the patch and started balancing two sepparate games, one for OW veterans to have some nostalgia gameplay and some for new players to test 1 more player in the match. Worst part is that they ended up doing neither... Some heroes get reverted to OW1 (Hog), some keep OW2 kits (Orisa), some get just straight up nerfed "because nerf tanks" (tank Doom), and some get buffed in areas that DON'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE TEST (Rein getting MORE shield and less control on charge in a mode with MORE tanks).
@bianglegaming1127
@bianglegaming1127 3 сағат бұрын
Supports' passive regen in the main game kicks in after 2.5 seconds rather than 5, but what about this mode? Is it 7 for them too, or is it also just plus 2 seconds (4.5) or half the time of other roles still (3.5)?
@introjeff
@introjeff 4 сағат бұрын
Get ready for lots of kitsunes
@ОленаГалацан
@ОленаГалацан 7 сағат бұрын
I personally was waiting for Orissa's bongo to be back and also her right click. It was so fun to play! At least for nostalgia they could've brought it back.
@Protectorofgod
@Protectorofgod 7 сағат бұрын
Bongo was kinda bad to be honest they just need another ult for her
@ayth1027
@ayth1027 3 сағат бұрын
Why they didn't change DPS's hp ? it's like Doom or JQ have almost the same hp as Torb (especially with his E where he has 400 hp), Mei or Reaper. I feel thoses dps will be much tankier and have more survavibility than the actual tanks we have in this mode, even in arcade where you can play multiple tanks Torb use to have more hp with his E than Doomfist have. This patch feels like they just MASS nerf tanks hp and resistance and some cooldowns overall which is great because we have 2 tanks, but please do the same for dps, they are supposed to be squishies btw.
@Drop0sauce
@Drop0sauce 9 сағат бұрын
My issue is the majority who don’t want ow to die are the players who spent ridiculous amounts of money then double downed and threw blizzard MORE MONEY even they they gave zero fucks about there player base I had a game like this but it had competition drop and they stayed with the pay for hero’s and pricy skins on only characters they thought would sell and buff those characters out of proportion just to sell you a skin marvel can follow suit
@TormodSteinsholt
@TormodSteinsholt 52 минут бұрын
I'd wish Rein would've been viewed more favorably. Iconic character and hasn't been meta for ages.
@Aregulargameplayer
@Aregulargameplayer 9 сағат бұрын
People being so confused about Tanks getting nerfed, like what? Tanks in 5v5 are raid bosses, you can't have 2 of them in 6v6.
@You_are_wrong99
@You_are_wrong99 7 сағат бұрын
This video will show who have played ow1 or ow2.
@jakebot666
@jakebot666 7 сағат бұрын
some of these should NOT have been changed. it shouldnt have been decided to change roadhog so massively and nerf rein charge such a weird amount
@kozybunni
@kozybunni 9 сағат бұрын
that take a breather animation is so scuffed
@hyuugajay
@hyuugajay Сағат бұрын
At this point, we are just playing 2022 OW1. A ton of these changes were completely unnecessary and were NOT the problem with the character. Hog should always have kept pig pen. It wasn't what made him annoying. His Take a breather NOT having a cooldown and him having 800 HP was the problem. Them also keeping the DPS hp the same is also ridiculous as the HP buff was done to compensate for the lack of a tank. (except for buffing widow like why blizz, I have 236+ hrs on widow, but seeing ZERO changes to her counters and then BUFFING her is just stupid.) Most, if not ALL of the current OW2 abilities could work in 6v6, but they just need some numbers adjustments. I can see blizzard is trying, but they gotta listen to what people want right now. Removing rein 2nd fire strike is just stupid at this point because it, along with most of these changes, were NOT the issue people had with the heroes.
@mixrm0n
@mixrm0n 8 сағат бұрын
6v6 "Modern format" from Overwatch 1
@ВасилийШилов-ч2г
@ВасилийШилов-ч2г 9 сағат бұрын
You mentioned about less sleep duration on tanks, but what about nade? Is nade also back to normal or its steel reduced duration?
@oj3_oj357
@oj3_oj357 5 сағат бұрын
That’s not a thing it’s only sleep that has reduction
@josjos-x5s
@josjos-x5s 43 минут бұрын
I've noticed zarya and ram stomp a lot as tank in this mode.
@johnnyawsm8942
@johnnyawsm8942 26 минут бұрын
Hazard is made for 6v6. So fun to play him with another tank
@nugo344
@nugo344 2 сағат бұрын
Sojourn and sombra not getting any changes is crazy...
@Fantilow
@Fantilow 8 сағат бұрын
it's so hard to find info : how long does it last ? is it only for streamer. No I can't log in right now
@Guile_The_Exile
@Guile_The_Exile 8 сағат бұрын
Wow Rein and JunkQueen really got beat up here... And no changes for Genji or Junkrat?! Bruh...
@dcidperezdomiguez941
@dcidperezdomiguez941 15 минут бұрын
Bring back lootboxes and we are back in OW1
@drpaperbag6405
@drpaperbag6405 10 сағат бұрын
im sittin here liking these changes and just realized this video dropped 5mins ago
@tylerj9950
@tylerj9950 4 сағат бұрын
Literally 'Oh yeah lets keep the projectile changes from s9 for no reason' Blizz has some speds in it I swear
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 3 сағат бұрын
That's what made me laugh right at the get go, so these Pixar wannabes will keep shooting bricks instead of bullets? The game will remain a dumbed down dps festival regardless if it is 5v5 or 6v6. Luckily Marvel Rivals arrived, it's vastly superior than Overwatch in every way (even compared with Overwatch at it's peak, day 1 Rivals >>> 2022ish Overwatch
@SSADO-
@SSADO- 5 сағат бұрын
wait so why is rein's shield getting increased? the fact there's a possibility for a sigma or a ramattra to make double shield and they buff shields?
@doctorwalmart
@doctorwalmart 3 сағат бұрын
"for venture, we forgot"
@samasaurus6
@samasaurus6 5 сағат бұрын
Wouldn't it have been better to use RQ tank health to compare to? e.g. Doomfist has 525 health in 5v5 RQ, but 425 in 6v6. Also the recent hotfix doesn't affect 6v6, so Sojourn isn't nerfed in this mode. (And imo is pretty good)
@enesutku34
@enesutku34 3 сағат бұрын
there are two test this is the first one other one has RQ
@newbornkilik
@newbornkilik 4 сағат бұрын
I'm glad for the test, but I feel most of the tanks are gonna feel clunky. Like it seems they learned a lot about the game in the last few seasons and that just kind of out the window.
@Lord_Lumpi
@Lord_Lumpi 2 сағат бұрын
Can't wait to test it out but as usually... some changes probably happend because of a dice roll.
@flock8903
@flock8903 4 сағат бұрын
Aint played OW in ages. Been waiting for this 6V6 trial. Time to re-download the game, before uninstalling it after the trial unless 6V6 replaces 5V5.
@tspooner01
@tspooner01 2 сағат бұрын
Genji getting no changes is wild. They absolutely hate that character
@nugo344
@nugo344 2 сағат бұрын
4:25 excuse me this is 6v6 testing, not ow classic, hazard is in there what are they doing
@joaquinleyva6869
@joaquinleyva6869 4 сағат бұрын
I cried on the inside when I realized that doomfist would stay as a tank
@KoobyKarasu
@KoobyKarasu 6 сағат бұрын
And here's the part where everyone realizes a lot of the changes Tanks had in OW2 that made them so much more fun to play with were just so they were functional as solo Tanks and now that they need to function as a duo your individual value as a Tank is gonna be way less.
@peachybreeze
@peachybreeze 4 сағат бұрын
It’s almost like that’s the entire point. What did you think you were exposing here?
@KoobyKarasu
@KoobyKarasu 4 сағат бұрын
@@peachybreeze A lot of people claimed that "6v6 will make Tank fun again", which it clearly does not and I hope this 6v6 test makes people realize that (Atleast this 2-2-2 format, I'd be willing to also give the Max 3 format a try) 6v6 just makes the issue of "Tank not being fun" still exist just in a different way.
@yuehan6711
@yuehan6711 3 сағат бұрын
​@@KoobyKarasuExactly, the rose colored glasses are insane on people. So many clips in ow1 of rein failing to catch Cass stun over the shield and getting nuked in that half a second. Dont understand how people think ow1 tanks are more fun than ow2 tanks. If theyre able to find a happy medium in this 6v6 mode though that would be great.
@thelambbro
@thelambbro 8 сағат бұрын
Illari’s change’s should carry over into actual gameplay
@rdr1973
@rdr1973 3 сағат бұрын
I don’t like how all the tanks are getting extensive nerfs while dps that tanks have problematic matchups into Echo, Torb, Cass, Ana are getting extensive buffs Im just thankfull they didn’t buff bastion. The Devs seem to want to return to a version of balance where tanks are oppressed instead of equal
@GoogleLogin-xi8sy
@GoogleLogin-xi8sy 6 сағат бұрын
Never played 6v6 but I’m having a blast so far
@kelvinzaragoza7331
@kelvinzaragoza7331 3 сағат бұрын
So basically they went back from OW2 to OW1 but without our promised lootboxes for those who paid the game and without the PVE
@defaultdan7923
@defaultdan7923 4 сағат бұрын
i thought i'd enjoy this much more than i did when it came to other roles, but on supp and dps it was mildly better. not bad at all, though, especially since this is literally the first 6v6 patch. what i did notice straight away is that tank felt leagues better to play out the gate. i think i'm sold on 6v6 lol edit: somehow put tank instead of dps in the first sentence
@therealduelist8397
@therealduelist8397 6 сағат бұрын
Im gonna be honest while its fun playing off tank again and flanning with ball, some tanks need some love real bad. My friend was playing jq was getting melted so bad she had to swap to start having fun, and it sucks to because jq is her main aswell. Iive playing hog but the hog we have now feels so boring and stale, placing pig pens doen in strategical areas and punishing over extension made me happy on hog, I understand take a breather needed its nerf but get ing rid of pig pen? Seriously? Not to mention geting rid of a firestrike and the 50% steering nerf on rein were so unnecessary. The ball sharing shields to allie might be warranted but it brought me joy when i could peel for one of my teammates by diving in and sharing shields with them. I know that last one might be biased on my part but i still miss it. I really feel like they think when we ask for 6v6 they think we mean shitty ow1 tank stats but ow2 made so many tanks evolve fun and unique tools and gameplans that ,while yes needed significant tuning, could have been easily implemented into a 6v6 format I understand that with 2 tanks, their responsibilitys/tools need to be equally distributed amongst 2 players, but i feel as if it could've been executed in a more cohesive form consistent to their 5v5 counterparts illbeit tuned for 6v6.
@darcidious99
@darcidious99 7 сағат бұрын
Which patch notes lets me play as venom?
@itsali654
@itsali654 9 сағат бұрын
Junkerqueen got gutted her like at least do 1.25x
@AfroDeity0
@AfroDeity0 3 сағат бұрын
Ofc they decide to eviscerate doomfist
@Alphawolvess
@Alphawolvess 3 сағат бұрын
When is the patch to remove the 2 in the game title?
@monke_gaming2419
@monke_gaming2419 9 сағат бұрын
whats the point of some of these changes, roadhog was reworked for a reason and like overall quality of life changes should stay
@BeastMode-bw2ry
@BeastMode-bw2ry 8 сағат бұрын
QoL? They didn't do anything QoL for Hog at all. It was just to make him fit in 5v5 better and even then it didn't do that at all. It is just a dogshit rework and that's me saying this as a Hog otp.
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 3 сағат бұрын
It's silly because they are willing to bring back one shot Roadhog, but the horrendous "tank" Doomfist will remain a thing? Make up your mind Blizzard, be logical and straightforward instead of being chaotic
@AmalgamJiena
@AmalgamJiena 19 минут бұрын
Blizzard, please never let zarya stack her bubbles again
@Elijah_Elias
@Elijah_Elias 6 сағат бұрын
My Crusader can’t catch a break man ☹️
@Golden_Zeke
@Golden_Zeke 7 сағат бұрын
As a hog main, you better watch yo back, cuz im flanking again. Im so happy...
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 3 сағат бұрын
I guess the only people happy with these changes are Hog, Hammond and most likely Ana players. After all, Ana continues to shoot bricks instead of bullets, now against two big targets and the self-healing remains a thing, Ana will be so broken in this test. Kiriko as well, but that is a understatement
@NadirON
@NadirON 6 сағат бұрын
This is not 6v6 in OW2, this is "what if ow1 had these new heroes?" and that's it. This is not proving any point they wanted to, it's impossibile to judge if 6v6 is useful or not by these. What do they think are doing by giving Rein 2000 shield and keeping Doomfist's CDs untouched... he stuns more than when he was a dps...
@wizzzer1337
@wizzzer1337 51 минут бұрын
I didn't like how they made the changes from open queue to 6v6 role lock. It's confusing because ppl are used to 5v5.
@mekookami
@mekookami 8 сағат бұрын
Its so hard to bring myself to care anymore
@mikeegomez8315
@mikeegomez8315 48 минут бұрын
Holy crap my ears are in paaaainn but good content. Thank god for captions
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