I wish there was a visual indicator to show you have the dps passive applied to you
@LuminoX6885 ай бұрын
They're working on it
@Lyra_dragonal5 ай бұрын
Like cauterize in paladins
@nynave3005 ай бұрын
They said they are working on it
@Meese125 ай бұрын
Most original comment award 2024
@Rinoshy5 ай бұрын
I'd rather not have more clutter on the screen, so hopefully they just make it an option
@MetalSam255 ай бұрын
I remember they nerfed damage boost to not apply on Hanzo's ultimate because it went through Transcendece and now it doesnt matter anymore
@shanem89575 ай бұрын
They did it with junk tire and dva bomb too. But that was bc mercy got insane ult charge for boosting it.
@bigfudge20315 ай бұрын
@@shanem8957 Not sure why, Mercy should be allowed to have things like this, it separates the good Mercy players from the bad ones, yet Blizzard only ever seems to remove skill expression from her.
@shanem89575 ай бұрын
@@bigfudge2031 the issue is when she could get valk every fight sometimes more than once. They would have to increase the ult cost to balance it.
@bigfudge20315 ай бұрын
@@shanem8957They could have just massively nerfed Valk duration but decreased the cost to make it more like a tracer pulse bomb where you earn it often but have little impact, it would make Mercy a much more fluid character.
@seeohdoubleyou34275 ай бұрын
@@bigfudge2031i dont think holding one button down instead of the other should even be called a skill expression tbh
@FXtrtzor5 ай бұрын
health packs are not affected by dps passive because they apply cleanse effect: you can remove Ashe burn, widow's venom mine effect by using them as well.
@spinethrasher53715 ай бұрын
Don’t cleanse hack or slows tho
@solidforge20165 ай бұрын
It doesn't cleanse Ana's anti-heal or JQ's rampage, which are probably the most similar debuffs to the DPS passive.
@jayayj55745 ай бұрын
@@solidforge2016well to be fair it’s ANTI HEAL
@robingilmore39245 ай бұрын
@@jayayj5574to be fair, in a sense, so is the dps passive
@jayayj55745 ай бұрын
@@robingilmore3924 while yes that’s true it’s not an active ability by another player therefore it’s irrelevant to the mechanics of the actual gameplay.
@CHEWYCHEWYQQ5 ай бұрын
Bubble Pop is such a throwback.
@jprice19285 ай бұрын
That edit took me flat out I was not expecting that
@joemamasaho5 ай бұрын
KarQ with the hyuna reference straight off the bat was definitely not something i expected, but something i do profoundly respect.
@CubbyTech5 ай бұрын
KarQ stands for not wasting any time! Thanks for all the work you put into these!
@murilotheodoro50255 ай бұрын
Health packs remove negative effects such as Burn and Poison. Do they remove the dps passive?
@pixel_vengeur3915 ай бұрын
Literally answered a minute into the video
@HelalAndre5 ай бұрын
I agree! Like in Team Fortress 2
@bumblewyn5 ай бұрын
@@pixel_vengeur391No, the video answers if the health pack healing is reduced by the passive, not if the passive is cleansed afterwards.
@livid_spider5 ай бұрын
@@bumblewynunless whoever coded the dps passive is insane then the health pack healing as normal would indicate the passive was cleansed
@pixel_vengeur3915 ай бұрын
@@bumblewyn If the pack heals for the whole amount, it cleanses the passive, like it does the burning effect or venom mine
@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs5 ай бұрын
Genji deflecting a Moira damage orb is kinda strong if that orb is deflected into a good position, right? It'll constantly be applying the dps passive if it's floating around and touching the enemy.
@bigfudge20315 ай бұрын
You're overthinking it a bit too much, the passive it's that strong. Bastion can shoot 300 bullets at the enemies and constantly apply the passive, yet he is one of the worst DPS right now (as he always should be)
@bigshid70975 ай бұрын
@@bigfudge2031when i play genji, deflecting the orb is exactly what i look for when targeting moira. i either end up healing myself to continue fighting her or i get a purple orb to kill her faster (plus dps passive incase i miss) it’s redundant, but still
@ShadowLady15 ай бұрын
Tfw I got the bubble pop reference immediately
@Porutake5 ай бұрын
If they ever want to adjust how this passive works in the future, I had an idea that maybe it could be a 10% reduction that’s stackable so a double focused target ends up taking 20%… I have no idea how balanced that would feel but it could be fun to play with target focus incentives like that
@shiloh35415 ай бұрын
I like this a lot
@8UMadBro85 ай бұрын
I feel like the 20% is a little too strong as it is now, so I like this change!!
@alainpavek6935 ай бұрын
Personally I would make it ramp up/down based on damage, so you just don't swipe an entrire enemy team with Mei to get everyone debuffed, while heroes like Cassidy cannot do that.
@ThomasDiesch5 ай бұрын
to be honest the dps passive should be reworked right now. The Dps passive Deleted Tanks from the game right now. you cant play a non dive tank cause you get shred in 1 second as a TANK and this isnt even a joke. The Powercreep is just insane with this aswell, personaly they should have changed the damage in the game instead of giving more health to everyone and then lose on 20% healing.
@nixtypikal5 ай бұрын
@@alainpavek693This exactly. Heroes with less damage and fast fire rate would increase it in a linear fashion while those with higher damage and a slow fire rate would increase it in a burst. Then after a second of not taking damage from a DPS the effect would decrease back down to 0. If they do ever add an icon to show that you're affected by the passive they could add a bar next to it that fills up, that way both you and your supports know how much their healing is gonna be reduced.
@Golden_Zeke5 ай бұрын
Man Frick the dps passive
@Rexcalibar5 ай бұрын
Learning that Symm and Torb turret apply the passive is terrifying.
@tsoewoe5 ай бұрын
Karq picking the most difficult ways to bust these myths instead of just setting up a simple workshop tool
@StingrayOfficial5 ай бұрын
They need to fix Echo copy. She is a DPS hero. EDIT: crying laughing right now at the Moira orb spaghetti code. Kind of embarrassing tbh.
@Star_Rattler5 ай бұрын
Thanks again bro for making all this info super digestible and easy to understand!
@edselpurba_5 ай бұрын
5:29 Briggitay be slayin'
@bigfudge20315 ай бұрын
really surprised that Kiriko doesn't get the boosted healing for the suzu, but I guess that would just make her too strong.
@feartheoni5 ай бұрын
1:57 I just wanted to watch the video I didn't wanna retake algebra 😂
@Sasha-jo4tw5 ай бұрын
i know u failed that shit cause that was not algebra
@feartheoni5 ай бұрын
@@Sasha-jo4tw didn't mean to offend the dean of algebraic equations, my bad
@benblaylock40365 ай бұрын
Did ya know roadhog has a special voiceline if you stand on top of the car on circuit royal 1st spawn defending? He goes heh I’m on a car after you stand there for like 15 seconds. I think junkrat says something too but no other heroes say anything so I thought that was neat
@justinmatthews35055 ай бұрын
If Reins ankle is in a shield but he can't see it, does his slam still work? Poor Flats 😢
@noamkislovitch87755 ай бұрын
0:23 soldiers 76 icon 🤨
@hmbHealer5 ай бұрын
Moira doesn’t “Lifesteal” per se, it’s a set 20HP per second and is not affected by damage amplifiers from allies nor damage reductions from enemies.
@ossifiedtoad7985 ай бұрын
Moira’s Biotic Grasp self-heal isn’t actually a lifesteal. It does a constant HPS if she’s dealing damage to an enemy hero, regardless of any damage modifiers. It’s affected by healing modifiers of course, but it’s not a true lifesteal like The Reaping.
@zxkredo5 ай бұрын
We need a visual indicator for having the debuff.
@thedarkcranberry5 ай бұрын
5:28 Bro really said Brig-eat-tays
@KeanuChrist5 ай бұрын
Thank you KarQ for being a pinnacle in the Overwatch community, answering all the questions that we're all too lazy to look into.
@grilledchezcity95565 ай бұрын
This helped a ton, thanks King
@montymol3_4675 ай бұрын
posted 2 mins ago king
@grilledchezcity95565 ай бұрын
@@montymol3_467 hey, I've had a lot of questions about how it works, so I'm just trying to help boost engagement to show thanks for some answers
@aggrogahu5 ай бұрын
4:08 this makes sense as whenever Genji deflects a projectile, he effectively becomes the new owner of that projectile.
@oscarfonseca45075 ай бұрын
Just saw a clip of Lifeweaver canceling Sigmas ult by placing tree or even his platform in the center of his ult This could be a good myth to verify
@StormierNik5 ай бұрын
The reason also why the health pack works normally, is because the Health Pack IS a Cleanse at the same time. Just like when you walk into a health pack after burning, you'll stop burning.
@drac1095 ай бұрын
Does Ashe's dynamite apply the -20% healing to her if she hits herself with it? Pharah doesn't, but dynamite might work differently since it applies burn.
@shanem89575 ай бұрын
No. You can’t apply the passive to yourself
@MatRazer5 ай бұрын
7:21 What about Cassidy's grenade? Since hinder is a negative effect
@jonathasvieira64145 ай бұрын
1:08 that's probably because health packs also cleanse negative effects (although it doesn't cleanse anti-heal)
@shanem89575 ай бұрын
Ana’s anti nade doesn’t reduce healing by 100% it makes it so you can’t be healed aka healing can’t touch you. Dps passive reduces healing by 20%. That’s why health kits can’t be picked up when hit by anti.
@robingilmore39245 ай бұрын
only damage over time effects usually I'm pretty sure
@qaisshihadah13195 ай бұрын
What about reapers lifesteal?? Is it reduced from the damage passive?
@anglelife84295 ай бұрын
4:20
@prp34645 ай бұрын
That kumon math be kicking in with these calculations
@Sub2Reuben5 ай бұрын
If KZbin shuts down KarQ can always become a mathematician
@ItsASleepySheepy5 ай бұрын
The fact that Transcendence can't save your team from a Grav+Dragon combo anymore makes it feel kinda pointless, it should be buffed by at least 20% to compensate for that
@hr.vasilev5 ай бұрын
the way moira orb goes through lw platform, you can try genji deflecting rein's fs, same as the orb when bounce once it might go through.
@GustavoPMartins5 ай бұрын
Great research, thanks!
@Yoyo235th5 ай бұрын
4:48 confused by Kiriko's suzu: does this mean the suzu will first remove the dps debuff since it gives a full 80hp but without considering it a debuff so not 110hp? I would've expected suzu to only heal 64hp if the debuff was still in effect. Can you test if all healing after suzu does NOT get debuffed also?
@giovannigonzalez90405 ай бұрын
Bump. Confused by this as well
@toastiboi76185 ай бұрын
from what i understand, suzu clenses the dps passive but doesn't consider it a traditional debuff/negative effect like anti nade or burning (maybe it's because it's a passive or something idk) so if kiriko suzus someone affected by dps passive, it removes the passive, doesn't give bonus hp for removing a debuff, then all healing returns to normal on suzud heroes
@HeWhoSoars.5 ай бұрын
Gigantic is coming back on April 9th and I'm so ready to be done with OW
@knavenformed94365 ай бұрын
I thought you were hard trolling but cool, I did have some fun with the game so it's nice it gets a new chance
@HeWhoSoars.5 ай бұрын
@knavenformed9436 not trolling in either sense thankfully!!! Hope to see you on Gigantic in April!
@dmwanderer94545 ай бұрын
With BOB and the Healing Passive, it only kicks in when a player is no longer in combat, so you should've had BOB stop shooting after taking damage for the test
@lyzder72985 ай бұрын
"No longer un combat" in this context just means not receiving damage. You can shoot all day but as long as you didn't receive damage in the last 5 seconds you will regen
@fawnleif5 ай бұрын
The dps passive needs to be adjusted a bit. As a support player I can see the health of my tank player constantly go down and take 5 and 1/2 years to go back up. If it could activate at like 20 dmg instead of 1 dmg that would be helpful. Or maybe they reduce it to 15% instead of 20%. I feel like I can’t play certain support heroes because then my tank will disappear from the game lol
@robingilmore39245 ай бұрын
now more than ever it's important on support to do more than heal. enemies can't shoot your tank if they're dead or if you're applying enough pressure to make them back off or turn their attention to you. healbots will never make it out of silver now
@dyslecksya5 ай бұрын
Is symmetra's shield self-heal passive affected by the dps 20% healing reduction? Her passive only regens shield health
@lukasg48075 ай бұрын
Does torb get healed by his turret damage when in cardiac overdrive? Same thing for other deployables.
@slump86655 ай бұрын
yes, because they are considered "pets" so it's basically an extension of the character meaning you did the dmg meaning you get the lifesteal, just like hanzos dragon in the video
@kapoiosdenjereispoios82225 ай бұрын
Idea for new Tank passive: they take 20% more healing and 20% less damage if there are 2 or more allies close by. This will reduce the feeling that tanks get that they melt instantly while also boost team synergy. And now with the new DPS passive, tanks and supports are begging for a new passive too!
@Meese125 ай бұрын
Probably would need a lot of numerical tweaking but i do like this idea, it manages to buff frontliners like rein and mauga while not providing as much for the current top tier dive tanks like ball and doom Edit: after commenting i realize top players would definitely find a way to abuse it and make dive tanks even better and harder to kill but ladder play would definitely be more balanced.
@strikeiksp66295 ай бұрын
thats insane tanks would never die
@8UMadBro85 ай бұрын
That would definitely bring about a tank meta with some clear losers... it benefits brawlier tanks rather than dive... but also give ball his 5 minutes of fame here
@ThomasDiesch5 ай бұрын
@8UMadBro8 yeah this idea is hard to bring into the game right now but the point that frontline tanks like Zarya/Rein need some change to survive is right. You get one shot as tank right now if you show you without a corner in 1 second and thats not what a tank should be like.(and Personally who likes ball XD)
@8UMadBro85 ай бұрын
@ThomasDiesch (rolls away after being an OG ball main) but yeah this patch caused a different set of problems, but I also don't want a game of pocket the unkillable tanks, that will also lead to a bunch of games being decided on the better tank alone. I think the dps passive should be lowered some, but I also wouldn't mind the tanks getting some more armor (live longer but get healed just as fast). The game definitely needs some fine tuning after these changes though
@disturbedwaffles66535 ай бұрын
Does Orisa's Fortify protect from all abilities that have a forced critical hit? We know it does for Mauga's Volatile Chaingun, but what about Overrun, Sombra's hacked Virus, or Reinhardt's Earthshatter direct hit?
@ScurvySailor5 ай бұрын
I wonder if you pick up a hacked health pack, do you get the 20% debuff? That technically counts as Sombra's heal, so it might work differently than an unhacked.
@ShaundaLeer5 ай бұрын
That Ana one made me dizzy 😵💫
@jonathasvieira64145 ай бұрын
4:30 I think they should fix that, lifesteal abilities shouldn't be affected by the DPS passive in my opinion, these abilities just got a huge nerf this season for no reason
@matoikazamaki95225 ай бұрын
Not only that but other self heal options. Ana's self nade to survive from a DPS feels almost useless now.
@Gameplay_0065 ай бұрын
Except Moira, she should stay nerfed
@destructo34575 ай бұрын
@@matoikazamaki9522 It was still dumb to use it on you lol
@ThomasDiesch5 ай бұрын
to be honest the dps passive should be reworked in generall right now. The Dps passive Deleted Tanks from the game right now. you cant play a non dive tank cause you get shred in 1 second as a TANK That plays as a frontline like Rein/zarya and this isnt even a joke. I got one shottet in 0.5 seconds many times and thats not cause i runed in like a boon even playing around corners its hell.
@wtfgonbd5 ай бұрын
Take a shot every time he says "dps passive" and you might just die
@HopeIsADrug110375 ай бұрын
ive played moira for so long and im just learning she lifesteals with biotic grasp
@Yehoshua664 ай бұрын
QUESTION: Do supports get even extra healing after 5 seconds? Like do the two healing passives stack after the allotted time?
@lucacastiel5 ай бұрын
i was wondering a few things 1. if genji deflects mauga, does he get the crit damage once the target is on fire? 2. if genji is discorded and deflects, does he do the extra damage? 3. what is the most damage you can do with one ability in a realistic setting? like if you have a bap, mercy and another bap (echo copy) does the damage stock?
@lyzder72985 ай бұрын
1. Yes, the crit mechanic is built into the projectile so he does get auto crits vs burning targets 2. No. Damage amplified from discord is applied when the damage is done 3. Multiple Mercy damage boost DON'T stack but multiple Bap windows DO stack, but the effect is applied once per window, so Genji deflecting it back won't trigger another boost
@danieljuntunen23205 ай бұрын
Does the new DPS passive reduce the +25HP instant healing by 20% in Brig's packs aswell? And does the new DPS passive reduce Rally healing too on allies even though it gives Overhealth?
@redvixi35965 ай бұрын
i dont think the reduction applies overhealth, as its not really healing and just straight up adding hp to the current health pool
@-NoNo.5 ай бұрын
seeing temple of anubis brings me back. hopefully they rework those old 2cp maps into some other core competitive game mode
@AzraeIX5 ай бұрын
2CP is permanent in the arcade
@StefanoDraghi5 ай бұрын
Projectile size changes mythbust: did non-damaging projectiles like sombra translocator also get affected by the increase in proj size?
@galev39555 ай бұрын
So DPS debuff doesn't affect healing from healthpacks. I wonder if that's because healthpacks cleanse the debuff (as they cleanse dot too).
@DDricki2 ай бұрын
0:22 HYUNA REFERENCE
@LukeKimmell5 ай бұрын
I was walking my dog, watching this video with headphones, and the voice line @5:16 made me think someone behind me was yelling at myle
@Okina-Kev5 ай бұрын
It should’ve been released with a visual on release PERIOD.
@norskbjorn84845 ай бұрын
Rein firestrike gets deleted if it collides with the petal platform at all, unlike regular walls where the collision hitbox is smaller than the damage hitbox
@ExAzrael5 ай бұрын
Homie Bob was healing…. Am I effing crazy. If Bob has that passive. His health pool is to big, and it triggers to late for it to be noticeable.
@yassjinsoul5 ай бұрын
the hyuna cameo
@Jay-qn1cv5 ай бұрын
lmao nice hyuna reference
@robbyg24905 ай бұрын
I would make it so DPS bullet hits have a new sound effect to indicate the debuff
@xdoubt41135 ай бұрын
Can you apply the DPS passive to multiple targets from one DPS? So your Sombra or Tracer with spread, and your bullets hit multiple enemies; will they all receive the debuff or just the last one shot?
@toasted_ll5 ай бұрын
"you dont need math skills to be a youtuber" karq "so anyways i started mathing"
@exp29135 ай бұрын
Does the dps passive affects the Symmetras shield lifesteal?
@toastiboi76185 ай бұрын
i think that syms lifesteal technically counts as healing on the scoreboard so i think it does
@cristianrocha91885 ай бұрын
Can Mei’s wall take you out of Zarya’s ult in OW2? I remember you could kind of in OW1.
@delliath5 ай бұрын
I've been playing Overwatch since 2017 and I only found out Ana's nade amplifies healing done to teammates not long after Overwatch 2 was released.
@gavdeeezul68735 ай бұрын
what... what did you think it did before that??
@TinyLokiGaming5 ай бұрын
The fact that Echo's copying of another character doesn't apply it is very interesting 🤔
@notster71145 ай бұрын
In regards to the moira orb bug, if you throw the orb at the floor, will it bounce and penetrate the platform? or does it need to bounce specifically off of the platform twice for the bug to work?
@Razor_OK5 ай бұрын
I was told there would be no math @2:00
@KnurdMonkey5 ай бұрын
Super useful!
@Artayis5 ай бұрын
Was the last thing always the case? I feel like you used to be able to block soldier heals with bubble but maybe it was just LOS.
@darrenmoon29375 ай бұрын
Echo heals during ult rn (even if the copy takes dmg. bc the copy isn't technically echo so echo isn't taking DMG. So she can copy at 1hp and come out full rather than half of enough time passes.
@karahtar5 ай бұрын
I know the dps passive doesn't affect health packs but do health packs remove the effect like they remove burning?
@christianbishop13895 ай бұрын
Do you have a series where you break down the maths a bit slower?
@Federer2275 ай бұрын
One that triggers me sometimes - Kiriko`s healing ofuda passing through Amp Matrix (Baptiste`s Ultimate) double the amount of healing per paper? Or it is just some audio bug when the paper pass though Bap window?
@AbdulazizOla5 ай бұрын
Yes, he answered that in kiriko’s myth-busters episode. It was like a year ago, but really good one imo
@Doom_Hunter7475 ай бұрын
You missed, Is Reaper's self healing passive affected by the 20% healing reduction passive?
@ToonNoah5 ай бұрын
Does Ramattra's Ultimate go through Petal Platform? I swear I've died to it before while standing on top of the platform.
@user-ov2fc5sd1e5 ай бұрын
Blizzard does
@enbytwink5 ай бұрын
Does Widow's venom mine apply the dps passive? I know Ashe's dynamite does so I'd assume yes.
@allanlugo78425 ай бұрын
You get normal healing from health pack if debuffed, got it, but health packs also cleanse virus and fire, does they cleanse the passive? 🤔 i suppose mauga cardiac overdrive or reaper lifesteal also get the passive, right?
@sideeswipe5 ай бұрын
The DPS passive makes playing tank miserable they need to make major changes to it
@alexkritikos90255 ай бұрын
Zen ult needs a small buff I think because it’s meant to be used in a fight to sustain your team… so with the new dps passive the ult basically got a constant 20% healing nerf
@bigfudge20315 ай бұрын
You think Zen needs a buff at this moment in time???
@slump86655 ай бұрын
@@bigfudge2031tbf his ult rn is kinda buns
@bigfudge20315 ай бұрын
@@slump8665And Lucio's passive healing aura only heals himself for 8 healing per second now (2.5 times slower than the healing passive), but I don't hear anyone mention that.
@slump86655 ай бұрын
@@bigfudge2031 bc healing is not lucios thing, no one ever plays lucio cuz "idk man we need more heals" no they play lucio to run tf at them and brawl them and destroy. but everyone uses zen ult to heal someone. just a bad analogy imo
@Draze_9995 ай бұрын
Does Mercy receive even less self healing (like -40%) while healing a teammate if they're both (mercy and her ally) under the -20% healing DPS passive ?
@alessandropiuzzo56445 ай бұрын
Can you make another settings guide please? It would be awesome
@JoseGarcia-xy9pb5 ай бұрын
Does placing a petal platform over a pulse bomb cover the explosion?
@rawrgaming915 ай бұрын
Mythbusters ? More like free QA work sheeeesh
@BLAZE121265 ай бұрын
If a player is nanoed or boosted by mercy, will their projectiles be damage buffed after deflected by genji?
@atreyugantt57165 ай бұрын
Yes. Say you have a 100dmg fire strike with a 50% buff from nano. Genji is just deflecting a 150dmg projectile as if he were the one that fired it. He also adds any buffs he has to it. So say genji also has nano, he's now shooting back a 225 DMG projectile
@awesome-dp1oo5 ай бұрын
Is torbs turret effected by the dps passive? (The hammer repair)
@MayDenless57395 ай бұрын
Does the DPS passive apply to bob and torb’s turret (when trying to heal them)?
@FirebladeX19895 ай бұрын
if you copy someone as Ecco when you have low hp you regenerate your own healtpool when in copy and get out full hp after the 15 seconds
@star-ox5lg5 ай бұрын
If the Moira's orb after bouncing would pass through the platform, would deflect do the same? How after two deflects?
@Lyra_dragonal5 ай бұрын
Its like cauterize from paladins *champions* of the realm but worse in every conceivable way😂
@Omega-mf9kj5 ай бұрын
Does orisa fortify block the dps passive?
@toastiboi76185 ай бұрын
no
@Brex_6675 ай бұрын
one of the videos of all time "does doing damage as damage apply the damage passive"
@RiftWalker545 ай бұрын
When sigma Ults a half hp target can Maugas Cardiac overdrive DMG reduction keep them alive?
@bwaeghl71195 ай бұрын
bob dodged not get the healing passive because he was shooting, therefore he was not out of combat, no?