Overwatch 2's Hitboxes Are Now INSANE

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[@Cowb.oymusic]

Pharah has less fuel now due to economic inflation

[@Poisonchaos]

If you want more information on this rework google Pharah inflation

[@yoda5937]

​@@Poisonchaos hot

[@thehorse5307]

You're right, the lore team actually made it a rule to keep the economy of the Overwatch world realistic. Pharah needs to have less fuel to keep it accurate with how the near future will have limited fuel available. Google Pharah Inflation Rule 34 if you'd like to read more about why they did this.

[@thebigsucc030]

@@thehorse5307this was really informative, thank you

[@sushiroll3795]

​@@Poisonchaos We partake in a small amount of tomfoolery.

[@JacobSReeds]

For Hanzo, remember the early days in OW1 when you'd stand behind a door, completely hidden, and his logs would still kill you around the door cause their size was so large? I can't wait for those clips to come back.

[@snuggs5714]

They won’t come back because hanzo cant one shot 90% of the roster

[@JacobSReeds]

@@snuggs5714 what about those times you get past the door in retreat, and still get pegged even though you're fully in cover? What about those times he shoots an arrow and immediately starts storm arrow? Just because one arrow can't one shot most of the roster now doesn't mean this is not going to be a problem.

[@SuperGiga64]

@@snuggs5714 He should still be able to 1 shot most squishies on headshot with Mercy boost

[@matthewpletsch7523]

The Huntsman?

[@gravityhacks1879]

Him needing a boost to fulfill his basic purpose is.. shit​@@SuperGiga64

[@shim5553]

its really com full circle from "paladins is just free overwatch" to "overwatch is just paladins now"

[@saveligulas5847]

So true

[@moezfoez]

Paladins gets too much shit tbh It's great for what it is And sadly I'm been more enjoyable than OW for the past few years

[@gabrielnieves4103]

stg if pala was as polished as ow it would have a bigger base@@moezfoez

[@jbkibs]

@@moezfoez yeah and paladins is far superior. the best thing is you can't switch heroes.

[@milkymalik2628]

No joke, I think Hi Rez would beat Blizz in terms of quality if they released Paladins 2 with a new engine to make the game look better and feel smoother and also with better maps bc the core gameplay idea is very good @jbkibs

[@i55ed]

mercy now fires an entire ford f-150

[@charlesrhodes1089]

More like an f350

[@yeetus076]

If she valks and decides to pull the glock out, she transforms to an f16 fighter jet

[@johnsonspark171]

this update is ASS

[@dutifulbarrel9084]

​@@yeetus076she's a full on a-10 hog with nano or rush too

[@darcidious99]

​@@dutifulbarrel9084oh shit we going back to the butterfly meta?!?!

[@RocksonPlaysGames]

I don't understand how these hitbox changes are good. I was all for most of the changes, but making everything way easier to hit is not a good one. Also as a hanzo main, they removed hanzo as a sniper and made him just a tank buster like many other dps characters. Widow is now the only sniper.

[@jyhmz]

You should really watch Questron's video, he explain it really well and defend those changes very well, everyone that don't understands the point of the patch should watch it on my opinion :)

[@anecdoteskywalker]

Just talking about in another comment house for the first time I really felt like I would step into a bunch of games that were super unbalanced because of Hanzo

[@anecdoteskywalker]

​@@jyhmzI'll check it out because right now I'm not feeling it

[@jyhmz]

@@anecdoteskywalker I really encourage anyone that don't understand the patch to watch his video, if Questron's video was presented officially by blizzard like the eskay and Ml7 ones it would have been sick

[@MichaelJones-rz5sw]

A Spamzo main unhappy? It is a good day in OW

[@AveryHyena]

14:50 "People's reading comprehension skills are awful with the patch notes. Awful." **The literal first thing in the video is him not understanding how overfuel and getting fuel back works because he didn't read the patch notes properly**

[@Devedander]

I was actually surprised because I thought just looking at it happen made it pretty clear how it worked.

[@AveryHyena]

@@Devedander Yes, that too. I thought it seemed obvious that jump jets adds half a bar of fuel no matter if you're already full just by looking, but for some reason, flats was going on about "so you'd need to use jets while standing on the ground to get more fuel" and acting as though you get less fuel if you're flying.

[@XPjonjon]

well flats was never that bright to begin with lol

[@genesisosuna]

Flats should be the last person to ever talk about someone else's reading abilities. He literally can't go a single sentence without stuttering or messing up lmao. Hearing him read patch notes and dev blogs and such is actually painful

[@xxxthwagdrakexxx4672]

​@genesisosuna man's was kissing so much ass to blizzards changes and now that they're here it's making tank mains insufferable

[@Timshivemind]

This season as a dps player I will be playing the newest dps kiri

[@jyhmz]

Dps passive is going hard don't sleep on it

[@DaffyTaffy93]

I love how Kiriko is basically unkillable now

[@jyhmz]

@@DaffyTaffy93 yeah agree but dosn't change much from before

[@DeputyFish]

20% cauterize nah man lol. its not gonna change shit@@jyhmz

[@ken7007]

Not really everyone still doing more DPS

[@droidaka6139]

minecraft hitboxes is not the move man

[@oni2510]

What i like about the Pharah rework is that she went from a floaty play style to a more high mobility one. I think there’s a great bundle potential in utilizing her newer kit. Not only that but with the new changes to hit-boxes, Pharah being on the ground more often really encourages her to play more horizontally rather than vertically which is really refreshing imo.

[@10Neon]

Not that this should be a criterion for how good a hero is, but new Pharah also more closely resembles how she's depicted in the lore

[@JonezBBQ]

It's what made pharah unique though...

[@alfonsovelazquez9565]

​@@JonezBBQ shes still very unique

[@killlimall]

I like the new dash but I despise the decision to severely limit fuel resource. It's now the only passive resource in the game that can take up to 2 seconds to begin to replenish. Jump jets got a 50% cd nerf and the miniscule amount of feul to compensate fails to come close. She no longer feels useful in higher tiers of play. She feels just as stagnant in the air as junkrat. Genji can now stay in the air more often than pharah. Now factor in the big changes to projectile sizes pharah gets decimated by any hitscan player in silver who had close to 40% accuracy last season. In only one day og competitive play average pharah air time has dropped over 6%(overbuff). Pharah in low tiers are going to demand a pocket more often and still not be effective.

[@nidhishshivashankar4885]

Rocket genji

[@Preaplanes]

I aim for the shins on Pharah. If they keep on, they get directed. If they change course, it still hits right next to where I was expecting them, so they get splash damaged.

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

Do you predict or flick?

[@Preaplanes]

@@bazzfromthebackground3696 Depends on the distance. The closer they are, the more I flick.

[@pokieplayboy]

I feel like the jade would look better if it had a more crystalline look to it rather than a flat “shiny” color

[@concinnus]

Yeah, it's just metallic green car paint. Jade would require subsurface scattering to look right, which might be an engine/performance concern.

[@voxxy348]

Everyone: "Hanzo cant one shot anymore." Hanzo: "You cannot deny these logs"

[@benni2974]

hanzo shooting whole trees

[@Nobre9121]

I could read it with his voice in my head

[@Sketch_MGetch]

You won Reddit, they tailored the game for you

[@snowykitten6860]

Seeing this hurts my soul

[@10Neon]

Finally an update for meeee

[@sergmcmuffin]

Finally, the game is fun

[@moezfoez]

​@@sergmcmuffinwere you that bad at it or somethin

[@Jecoopster]

Hell yeah! I can finally play damage role without practicing for 100 hours to get good

[@ImTheOfficialFox]

this is literally the huntsman from tf2 but on every character

[@zjpcreeper2626]

tf3 lookin kinda weird... almost like overwatch

[@Puhckaaaa]

Difference is, one is shitty hit detection due to child abandonment and the other is just the actual size of the proj (meaning it’s every single time you shoot it, not once a while)

[@SuperGiga64]

Sym's shot is the short circuit. All it needs to do now is delete projectiles.

[@phil-l]

My first thought

[@exalted7906]

I love using the lucksman

[@plat4663]

Even as a Pharah hater I think it would be cool if her horizontal speed didn't decelerate while airborne.

[@keyuke06]

Dear god don’t give them any ideas. I don’t need a fuckin’ Bell-YAH 63 flying half across the map from spawn to hunt me down.

[@cheetahofthewind13]

​@@keyuke06tbf good parahs already could with boop

[@BlueRiptide]

@@cheetahofthewind13well with that change it would make it stronger lol she stil has boop

[@keyuke06]

@@cheetahofthewind13But that's a cooldown and even then once Pharah reached her destination she'd return to her original movement speed. What OP suggested was that she remains that fast until she stops or changes directions.

[@Galewind.]

We don't Need more horizontal speed

[@sigurdvarmdal1325]

Zen's head hit box is bigger than Rein's sheild now lol

[@Ktjnn]

This reminds me of Destiny 1s weapon system; It had a stat called Aim Assist, but it wasn't the sticky aim for controller, it was a measure of how far off target your cross hair could be before it missed. So high AA guns like Weyloran's March could hit people a full cross hair length or more off target.

[@RobSpeaking]

I rinsed D1 and content and I never knew this? Are you serious?

[@kameillakittycat]

You know, I did think I was doing a little too good this morning in quick.

[@Sofiamarkes]

“Do you know the square around the players on Soldier’s ultimate? Yah, that’s it that’s the hitbox”

[@pigeon_9161]

I would be fine with some of these if they were just a little bit smaller, but mercy and kiri etc are insane. Like thats not consistency thats missing

[@lashius1]

Kiri's actually isn't all that insane. Before the the global buff, and even after, her shots are still on the smaller side of of projectiles. If I'm not mistaken her and Mei have the same size now, where Kiri's where just slightly bigger than Mei's icicle pre patch. Keep in mind, it's a slower moving projectile that you need to lead your shot with, and the further away you are the less accurate you're going to get with it. The real winners with the broken hit boxes this patch are hit scan heroes. Solder is now shooting bullets that are now nearly as big as Illiari's shots at launch, and he can pump out ten of them a second. You already saw widow. There's not really much point in playing projectile DPS after this patch.

[@pigeon_9161]

@lashius1 I play kiri, and the thing with her is the mix of fire rate and projectile speed along with the size. I think they should have kept it the same, and it would be fine in this new context. And obviously hitscan are insane I fully agree with you. I think changing it by half or 2 thirds of what they did would've been good. Like +0.04 instead of +0.08 Abt projectile dps I dont think they're dead at all. Genji is great rn, mei too. Junk is bad, but that's a net good for the game, imo lol. Hanzo is actually insane as well. Echo feels good, tho I'm not sure how she will do long term. In a week or two people will find the new annoying hard meta (which might be mercy pocketed widow unfort) but for now a lot of characters are playable, despite the strength of hitscans

[@lashius1]

@@pigeon_9161 She actually got a base reduction before the global buff. If I'm not mistaken she got a net og just a little over a 10% increase in size. That said, my issue with the hit scan getting as buffed as they are is simple, why bother playing projectiles when hit scan is more reliable? Sure, I can maybe land a head shot with hanzo and still tank a target's hp, but I need to put more effort into my aim the farther out I am from my target. Most of his value came from being one of two DPS that could one shot 200 hp target. Loosing that pic potentialy pretty much obliterates the more skill intensive assassin style play style and relegates him to only playing as spamzo, which just isn't all that fun to me, personally. Combine that with the fact that there's a universal healing passive now and I'm more insensitivised to try and kill targets further away so if I do get taged I can jsut ducl back into cover untill I can get touched up by a support, or so that they can keep the tank up who's pretty much always dealing with the DPS passive now. I would argue the only real projectile heroes wirth playing at the moment outside of support are probably Mei and Sojourn, the latter being just busted right now, as a hit scan/projectile hybrid. I don't want to be that guy who dumps on a patch just as it rolled out, but I don't feel like making things universally easier to hit was the right call because it punishes people in the average range of the ladder by letting less skilled people compete with them. And it isn't as much of a matter of people in gold are going to shoot up to diamond, because the people above them who could aim better already will have an even more easy time, so the middle and upper sections of the metal ranks are going to get flooded with low too mid silver players and make the game feel bad for people who have at least put a little effort into getting good. If they wanted to elevate the problem of too many people in bronze and the skill gap in GM, they should have just added five more divisions to each rank. That way there would be a more consistent spread of skill across each rank. Using the old SR system (which still worked in the back round, at least before this patch) bronze was ranked from 1-1499, silver was ranked from 1,500-1,999, and every division was separated by 500 sr on wards. If you add five divisions to each rank, bronze could be 1-999, silver could be from 1,000-1,999, and just tag +500 to the SR requirements in each rank going up, and at that point you have +3000 more SR for a total of 7,000. Anyway, this turned into kind of an early morning brain dump of ideas instead of a simple reply. Sorry for the thesis, time for a cup of tea and a shower.

[@goatzee69420]

the bullet size ends it for me. the left side body shot: the reticle isn't even touching a single pixel on cass's model. RIP OW, it wasn't fun.

[@MichaelJones-rz5sw]

And no one ne of value was missed.

[@mariusbrincus8967]

​@@MichaelJones-rz5sw oh shut would you, game is garbo and so are you

[@storm___]

​@@MichaelJones-rz5swlol guy who couldnt hit any shots before now thinks patch is good because it compensates his terrible aim. This game is dying and desparate to attract casuals who cant aim and want to play a cod clone

[@viniciuscoxoba3842]

​​@@storm___ Overwatch 2 can't die, it has too much porn material, guys between 15-25yrs old throw money at the screen every season And I mean it, check the correlation between the beginning of an overwatch season and the engagement in Google searches, then check the same time frame but add "pornhub" into the variables of search, overwatch pulls millions of dollars in this shit

[@wolfspiderzx]

​@@MichaelJones-rz5sw OW is just becoming a kindergarten at this point. No skill, all aim assist. Have fun thinking you're a "weaaly gwood pwayer" because they made it impossible to fail.

[@dogs-game-too]

I really hope they give more weapon variants beyond Jade because they are underwhelming af lol. Imagine some crimson/ruby weapons 🔥 they're basically just the gold gun with a color filter, so let us have other color filters too.

[@Crypticzen1]

It has been said multiple time they will add a new type every year

[@dogs-game-too]

@Crypticzen1 nice I hadn't heard that so that's good to hear

[@melancall5960]

18:04 just watch the chat reactions change when Mr.streamer says he likes it XD actual drones

[@odinga77]

Man these dudes be bots ,can't think for themselves, people love to follow dude.

[@blackmailz]

The Jade skin probably would look better if they added a sort of mineral veins that are common in Jade stones Right now it looks just like gold skin but green.

[@shorttaytayplayz5289]

It’s funny because it’s more consistent for Lucio to aim at their name tag to hit headshots because otherwise aiming at the head counts as a body shot

[@jeffe2267]

how are these hitboxes real?? literally the opposite of counter-strike. 9:30 real KEKW

[@MonsterTaming420]

I always liked overwatch for the tight hitboxes, if I wanted a looser experience I would play Paladins lol

[@mikesimmerman4457]

And paladins offers more Card system Talents In match item purchase

[@diamonds_realm]

Honestly from what ive played, i could live with the new projectile hitboxes Hitscan however yeah fuck no revert that shit immediately please

[@dylancrosby2451]

Based

[@lobato2833]

With the hanzo and kiri hitbox, not even walls will stop them from hitting you, thats crazy

[@SalamiMommie]

I really like the size increases for shotgun characters. It helps the pellets on the sides connect more, huge for jq and doom

[@3dtoni]

You know I wouldn't mind the bigger projectile hit boxes it they did it radial wit h a "bullseyes" point for critical head shots.

[@rayvintankerson6818]

If the Jade guns had a bit more of tht green sparkle I think they’d be nicer but it’s not noticeable enough to be better than gold, feel like if it was a little darker and more vibrant too like a actual emerald it would smack. It kinda just looks like green metal most of them time rather than gold being like shiny and nice asf

[@christopherjohnson4806]

I don’t know how they did it but they added almost 40 rein nerfs this patch

[@Micha-ds5vy]

Wdym???

[@christopherjohnson4806]

@@Micha-ds5vy everyone else got stronger

[@Micha-ds5vy]

@@christopherjohnson4806 ah yes Sad he is weak af now

[@lesarchivesdeval8477]

11:41 so that explains how i managed to get Play of the Game on Mercy with a triple in Valk during my placements. Until last season i couldn't hit for sh*t with the blaster x'D

[@kaylaisrad]

her bullet hit box has always been huge

[@morfosak5289]

Her bullet hitbox was probably the biggest with baby dva.

[@Lyra_dragonal]

You can get a slight vertical boost with jet dash when you are slow falling when out of fuel

[@MJY5drives]

As a Pharah main the forced ground touch is likely going to be annoying, but the new rocket speed is going to be absolutely insane

[@dylancrosby2451]

Balanced though, pharmercy will actually be punishable.

[@jumby_thicc6848]

Wish they had made jade more opaque/mineral like than it being metallic.

[@devar7502]

6:26 Gotta love them laughing at the same time

[@CocoCachoo]

I love that a good third of this video is Flats maniacally laughing

[@rookere1604]

What we need is a side by side video of hitboxes before and after patch

[@rayvintankerson6818]

Expanding the hit box and also making projectiles bigger didn’t seem unbalanced to anyone at blizzard?

[@johnsonspark171]

they are trying to make the game more accessible to NEW players since it's a dying IP. I know all you addicts can't admit that, but it's true. THE GAME IS DYING and Microsoft is trying to save it

[@ADuxk]

​@@johnsonspark171the game isn't dying nor growing, its been sustained for a while. We needed a big shakeup in the meta and the Devs are trying something instead of doing fuck all. The ones who disapprove of the changes leave, the ones who like it either join or stay.

[@ADuxk]

@@Truthforeals there's a ton of new players joining because of the changes. The veteran community might shrink yeah but there is no real difference between new and veteran besides "I remember 6v6 and GOATS" Net change is that community gets larger

[@DeputyFish]

they should o fdone one or the other not both

[@martinsfridenbergs1052]

So basically they gave Phara dirrect hit rocketlauncher from tf2 now

[@4589dude]

They must think we all play on controllers to give us these hitboxes

[@naejimba]

This is just ridiculous... look at Zen for example with hit scan shooting; you could stack another head on top of his existing head, and the top of THAT head marks where the shot would miss. So sure, there is a point at which you can make it feel more consistent for players, but a few things: 1) If you keep pushing you get to the point where the game just feels buggy and cheap. If players can notice during a match that they are getting shots when they clearly missed, you destroy the FEEDBACK of the game. This feedback is game feel; aka that blizzard "polish" to animations, spell effects, sound effects, the way it feels to move the character, etc. that players simply interpret as fun to play and quality. It makes your actions clear, consistent, and feel like they have weight to them. If there is a disconnect between the feedback and what the player sees on screen it erodes this effect, making the game feel "cheaper." It is only one aspect of game feel, but when more are present it is impossible to ignore... like how games with floaty running animation and combat that doesn't feel impactful feel "cheap." 2) Harms the competitive nature of the game. Not only because it can make the game feel cheap and buggy, but because you lowered the skill CEILING in the process. Look, I have zero issue with lowering the skill floor... that is actually a GOOD quality in a game that leads to a strong community and helps keep queues full, but without a high skill ceiling you lose the top end. If you insist we must have projectiles this large, there are a few issues that need to be addressed. First, the hitboxes of some characters are just silly, and Zen is a good example (addressing this helps a bit with point 1). Now, this made complete sense when he was hard to get to in OW1, but makes no sense in the new format, and keeping these hitboxes meant he had to be given ridiculous things like a knockback without a CD. The huge weakness of Zen and why he worked as a glass cannon was his positioning could be severely punished... so we have LOWERED the skill ceiling of Zen and are forced to leave him with a discord that is horrible for tanks to keep him relevant. Imagine if he got a buff by having his hitboxes a bit closer to the rest of the support cast. Maybe we can find a version of Zen that raises the skill ceiling, making him more fun to play, while also making him more fun to play against. Second, the game has too many "binary" mechanics that cannot be done better or worse. Everything from lock on beams to a defensive CD; contrast this with something like the head shot mechanic. There is variation of output based upon the skill of mechanical aim. Not every skill is mechanical aim, but the new projectile hitboxes deal with it so this is the one we want to mess with. If you are lowering the skill floor, you must also raise the skill ceiling. Take the time to make a second, smaller hitbox that closely aligns with the actual model. Now for headshot characters we have three distinct areas: body - 1x damage, accurate body - 1.25x, head - 1.5x, accurate head - 2x damage. This way the skill ceiling is higher than ever before, and even characters that cannot headshot can get additional value through skill. Then, we should go through the whole cast and look at the "skill to value" ratio of all abilities and adjust things. The ideal is a low skill floor AND ceiling for everyone.

[@hubertop1247]

It is. It is so obviously, and people are actually defending it

[@crazy5948]

Pharah player here. Changes are decisive. Some people love them and some people hate them I fall into the hatred catagory and I think the devs are fucking insane. I am also a game dev and not a stupid angry overwatch player that doesn't know how to balance shit. God damn it ow team just give me the option to stay in the air for 1 tank of fuel. That's all I want

[@jyhmz]

Looks like to me that low ranks don't like the rework but high ranks likes it, wich makes sens, low rank et high ranks don't have the same expectations Low ranks were able to dominate on phara only because people couldnt aim at them, but now its not the same and on the other side she become more skillful to play, so that reaction is expected

[@alfonsovelazquez9565]

I like it cause it play like a tf2 soldier

[@timothyparham5064]

To give some feedback on Pharah, I don't completely hate the change. However, Pharmercy seemed to be a gripe for a really long time. It being an automatic "We should counter swap that" method made it an issue for legacy players and new players who are still getting used to the new shift into speedy 5v5. Changing Pharah's core identity is a bit weird but I think these changes make Pharah faster overall and tight knit. Some gripes I may understand is her more vertical movement. Having her horizontal gameplay change to be geared towards a high-ground gameplay is a bit unfair. But lets hope season 9 comes with later tweaks.

[@crazy5948]

@@jyhmz See i cant say thats the case, because i am GM, peak of GM 3 There is someone i know of thats diamond that loves the changes as well as another gm that loves the changes, then 2 more GM's (excluding myself) that hate the changes. I dont think its down to skill. its down to play style, some people love that shes a bouncy frog on crack now, and others hate that shes lost her queen of the skies identity.

[@crazy5948]

​@@timothyparham5064 They make her faster year, but the problem is that her identity of queen of the skies is gone, she has a whole new playstyle that i think is more detrimental to the character. Shes now in this weird middle ground of half flanker and half front liner, when in the past she was a flanker, you couldnt frontline. I would also like to go on record to say i love the mobility changes, but i do not love the inability to stay in the air, its so bad that echo can stay in the air longer than her. I understand the problem with pharmercy, but that problem isnt just pharah mercy, its mercy and whoever mercy wants to pocket. Ashe mercy, Sojurn mercy, soldier mercy, all of those characters are good on their own, when they have a pocket, they become disgustingly powerful. If they wanted to solve the pocket problem, change mercy, the character thats causing the problem in the first place. Its like trying to treat cancer by treating the symptoms of it without killing the cancerous growth, it doesnt work

[@Shasma_]

In one update, the OW devs gave Hanzo the huntsman from tf2 bruh 💀

[@mikejowan3340]

phara should regen fuel sooner after touching the ground. hitscan is so easy to play right now, she needs a little something extra but overall I find her new kit fun

[@Njin8492]

the maniacal laughter at @9:27 gets me lmao

[@patchedart4607]

Funny enough, back in like 2018 when I was hyper fixated on overwatch, I concepted a character that is basically these pharah changes. Less fuel but 2 boosts to stay air born longer, then a passive slow fall. Still don't regret giving up on the game tho

[@Riku-Leela]

Bro was so surprised he turned into santa

[@Shroom-Mage]

I suspect they prioritized maintaining time-to-kill and might dial back the bullet size a little bit in the future. The healing changes feel fantastic, though.

[@nightknight7748]

The most casual, friendly update will be a fun couple of weeks

[@yuri_8368]

Thats why i see a lot more symmetras now

[@zzigyplays3223]

Pharaoh needs either her right click to regenerate 25% fuel, or make it so she can hover/stronger lift on the Jetpack

[@prateek9386]

Imo they can reduce all projectiles if they can about 0.03m that would be a good breakpoint if they wanna have this "consistent shots" thing. I only hate the projectile shots the most as I play tracer and when the enemy Hanzo who can't hit anything and just spams to hit a tree on my head after missing it by a mile is frustrating bruh...

[@subparpt]

These changes are COOKED my brother 9:20 How do you watch this as a game dev and go "Yep looks alright to me :)" Mei's "that's precise" voiceline while you're hitting their head a foot away is good shit

[@hubertop1247]

Paralytic friendly game 👍 Good vibrations your aim is good player, you can feel satisfied hitting those headshots just buy the battlepass because you are this good and you deserve it 👍

[@joaorobertomarquesgeraldin4422]

NOT EVEN PALADINS WAS THIS CONDECENDING WITH HITBOXES WHAT THE ACTUAL HEEEELL

[@lukeaustin4465]

They are actually, I main makoa in paladins and I can still hit my shots quite easily.

[@StormierNik]

Do you regularly just make statements up for the exaggeration? It's way more generous to hit in Paladins. And both games should be that way. The acceleration in overwatch is instant, unlike most other FPS. People thinking you need 1 to 1 hitboxes in a game where you have several characters who don't even aim at all, are insane.

[@DeputyFish]

makoa is a pretty big exception he's shooting a giant bowling ball lol@@lukeaustin4465

[@DeputyFish]

no. its not. lol. look at the mccreee clip@@StormierNik compare that to andro

[@drfunybone4652]

Nah they pulled out the fucking PALADINS hitboxes with this update what the fuck

[@Narwarlock]

I used to alternate between space bar and right click to hover, couple taps here, a few there, gave me a very consistent hover. Now i am fucked, switching hover to right mouse and the jet as double jump reminds me of hanzo jump but its still really messing me up. Most of the high vantage hover locations dont work at all now cause you cant stay airborne long enough. I'll get used to it but I will miss the old, always in the air, playstyle.

[@thalmorjusticiar1]

I just want to know who these changes were for. pharah players hate it, pharah haters are still going to get mad at it, and people who don't care are self explanatory. some sort of change to barrage at least would've been nice too, the bigger hitboxes just make it significantly worse than ever before.

[@Narwarlock]

@@thalmorjusticiar1 I think old pharah would be unplayable after all the changes cause you can be picked out of the sky too easy, even with a mercy pocket. So they stopped her from forever flying and gave her more horizontal movement to compensate

[@majesticbbqsauce727]

The question i have is, will there be a chance of pharah rollout vids?

[@TS-uu4hp]

I’ve ascended as a Widow player. My 3rd eye is open with these new hitboxes

[@GatoFrijolero]

Does anyone know what song was used as the background music when he was going through the jade weapon skins I wanna hear it without his beautiful voice

[@Preaplanes]

They nerfed the knockback on conc. Weirdly, they BUFFED the knockback on Lucio's boop.

[@kaylaisrad]

getting boops is my only motivation for playing pharah lol

[@timothyparham5064]

Im only surprised because it took them this long. Lucio's boop was worse than the roster's by far, granted that was his gimmick since the dawn of OW. Lucio mains can sleep plenty for now...I hope.

[@Preaplanes]

@timothyparham5064 it's a 4 second cooldown and already held silver medal only behind Hog ult.

[@thalmorjusticiar1]

@@Preaplanes it's the second weakest knockback effect in the game after ashe's coach gun, and it only got a 12% knockback increase.

[@ariacutlip6687]

hanzo back at it with the log sized arrows good to be back

[@Brown95P]

Nah man, they gotta fix zen's hitbox and kiri's hurtbox, those are just illegal. Not mercy's hurtbox though, that one is hilarious in a good way. 😂

[@Tze52]

They gotta reduce those hit boxes, some are no where NEAR the model

[@Andrew-mg3ib]

@@Oncipian These takes that say game sense are stupid. Good players didn't get to where they are with only mechanics. Just clear skill issue not to mention people's gamesense are probably even worse than mechanics but they don't know it. If this was chess they'd be 800 players.

[@Oncipian]

@Joey-up5dy u havent even played against me bruh ill shit stomp you in comp or literally any other fps. Yknow what ive pulled off in other shooters? Ive ran lobbies in multiple games on snipers using a fucking trackpad and assigning left click to q. Aiming literally has never been a problem except with overwatch because alot of the female characters are wayyy smaller than other shooting games. Most ppl I can hit except those annoying tiny ass characters who are smaller than most fps characters. Anyways please shut up because you are not complaing that you hit more shots but instead saying its bad other kids who you think are worse than you are hitting more shots. If you can feel the affects of that so badly, you are bad at the game and only had probably average aim to even work off of in the first place. Every single game I ran, low death, high kills. Pre season 9, low deaths, high kills. Nothing changed, u just only can aim so you lack fundamentals to be goof at the game and therefore feel the affects of others hitting you more. I'd want it nerfed too if my positioning was mid and I die every team fight to some kid with an easier to hit bs hitbox just cuz im standing in the open.

[@Huge_M]

Good to see huntsman headshot mechanic made it all the way to overwatch.

[@ZivZzZz]

Phara's fligth is nerfed now, but her rockets are faster and bigger and also her ult now has more ultility than just standing in the air and getting shot (You can also do damage with her repel thingy and trust me, when you are out of ammo and the enemy is 1 tap away from death you'll realise that garantee AoE damage is great)

[@AxleStukov]

This is making the Huntsman look like it has fair sized hitboxes.

[@thebl4ckd0g]

I played about a dozen matches yesterday. In death replay, people were literally not aiming at me directly, and killing me in 1-2 shots. 1 person was aiming to the right of me and 1 shot me... It's insane and actually really sad how much Blizzard broke the game with this patch. Blizzard basically removed having skill to play the game now. And in essense, removed any fun left. :(

[@wizardbrandon3544]

the tank passive really is just cosmetic now huh

[@shawngorski9714]

I keeo flying into stuff on first point junkertown as echo now 😂 yeare of built up knowledge on where to fly without looking is really letting me down rn, but its prob better once i unlearn all that and learn all the new stuff, but i definitely looked like a newb in both my first games as echo and the fact widows dont seem to ever miss in my rank now it was rough. I hope they pull back abit on hitscans and a few character's that probably deserved bullet decreases before the patch and the game could actually feel alot better.

[@Foggen]

Widow is oppressive now, such a wild change

[@plootyluvsturtle9843]

kind of hope they revert the projectile and hit scan sizes

[@Oncipian]

Disagree. Ow hitboxes felt fucking micro compared to any other game. Now it feels consistent.

[@jacksonville9642]

​@@Oncipian "consistent" lol

[@Oncipian]

@jacksonville9642 I mean idk how else to explain how I can stomp on ppl in any other fps when it comes to aiming besides overwatch. Ive literally played other fps games on a fuckin trackpad and shit on ppl. I am not the craziest at aiming but I can definitely hit my shots. Ive played shooting games most of my childhood lmao. Overwatch is literally the only game where aiming wasn't easy for me. 250+ hrs now and I am good at the fundamentals and yet my aim has barely improved on overwatch. I hit a little more than I used to when I first started playing but it wasn't that much. Feels pretty inconsistent with every fps ive played.

[@jacksonville9642]

@@Oncipian I can't see how having actual normal hitboxes instead of whatever your other games had is an Overwatch Issue You should be happy though, you got what you wanted, stupid af hitboxes so you don't need to even hit your shots

[@Oncipian]

@jacksonville9642 Lmao so ur mad that u now have to be good at the core game and not pointing and clicking? U def r hard stuck in metal ranks just say it, I can tell. Csgo, apex, fortnite, every cod game ever, krunker, any fps on roblox, the finals, and literally like every single fps ever that I've played I can hit shots in except ow. Ow is very different. Also if its sooooo braindead easy to play now, go grind comp. Complain abt it being boring when u hit gm1. Only issue I can see is ohhh kids who sucked at aiming can hit me now, oh no I can't sit in the open behind my tank anymore and get value, I have to actually position and can't just bank on my aim to carry me. You do realize ppl get at least masters with bad aim by playing easier characters that require little mechanical skill with aim, they just understand how to play the core of the game. Ow is so much more unique than other fps ive played because pointing and clicking isnt all that it takes to get high ranks. It requires sooo much more.

[@evanleone8434]

As a tank(ram) main in low elo hell i feel like i can never play comp because everything hits me and dps decrease my health all the time it's almost impossible to not die and or feel effective

[@bananas5418]

"try dash for fuel"

[@Slimjim2147]

I was on board with these changes, I like the idea of it. But good lord that Kiri and Widow v Zen really makes me think they overdid it. Maybe we can get some fine tuning and get a middle ground between the old and new

[@nmeow9668]

IS THAT LIL' GATOR SOUNDTRACK?!

[@mistan2403]

Why is this a change that went live? That's crazy those hotboxes

[@Xyrer]

this is a level of aprils fools big head mode

[@mrtony1181]

Great we’re back to 2016 with dump truck size hanzo arrows 😂, might actually work this time though

[@antonioborzatti9844]

Basically Hanzo is cosplaying sniper from tf2 using the huntsman, the hitbox is the same

[@ExclusiveExcellence]

Jade on the lunar new year Zarya skin is heat🔥

[@someGuy-kl7cb]

The ONLY issue I have is that crit hit boxes were affected, I think they actually need to be smaller. Reward skill, generally I think the game improved overall, the game got faster and hp needed to be addressed to accommodate for a LONG time now. The hit detection looks crazy but like, mobility is so rampant in overwatch even people jokingly admitting to having smaller hit boxes have admitted to overwatch a mobility to be insane. Some of the best players in other shooters have tried overwatch and landed in plat lol and we have generous hit boxes too

[@ushinkou8569]

14:10 Wtf is she shooting. A refridgerator?

[@metal100k]

Need a video on new dps passive. Like how long it lasts and shiz

[@HelloFellowMellowMarshmallow]

we need a Toy Soldier skin lineup to match the jade weapons

[@TappedWalnut]

idk, want to see this done compared to before, if anyone has a vid please tell me. Cause the old hitboxes could be made to look crazy before too.

[@Chorrocommelancia]

I played one match with hanzo to test out the hitbox i shot a widow she went out of the way and scopped, but because of the hitbox it hit a headshot and killed her (also I randomly shot a open door because i was holding in an arrow for a good time and accidentally killed a genji hiding in a corner)

[@ThatDevilBrony]

Question: Do you think the devs look at the Huntsman from TF2 for hitbox reference???

[@christophertidwell2422]

Genji is fucking things up currently

[@kristincatuogno9450]

While I understand that larger bullet sizes are kinda scary in the training range it doesnt seem so bad in game. There is so much movement between both players. No one is standing that still in game. Just feels like higher elo players gatekeeping having better aim. I played 30 or so games in gold / plat and it actually feels fun to play. It feels more competitive and I think if you are rewarded to get reasonably close when you don’t have top 500 or even diamond aim I think that makes for more fun for everyone in the community. Flats said something earlier in the SVB podcast about players not liking the game cause they weren’t good at it. I think this hitscan and projectile size change really helps people enjoy the game.

[@hubertop1247]

Its an fps, of course better aim should gatekeep you

[@mspinkmochi2844]

Like, with the new hitbox changes, every game has a Hanzo / Widow or a duo sniper now. On top of that, Silver & Golds are hitting like pros now, and it's stupid

[@jyhmz]

Not true, if you're getting hit easly in silver gold it's because you are way to predictable, I can already see low ranks blaming there positioning on the projectiles change lol this is gonna be awful

[@hubertop1247]

​@@jyhmz These hitboxes are awful for an fps game. This would be understandable if you aimed with your arrow keys

[@jyhmz]

@@hubertop1247 Probably, but that dosn't change anything about my previous comment

[@gizzardz8700]

I feel like the dps passive and hp buffs are fine. What feels bad is how unrewarding headshots are now. The couple of games I've played I was getting so bored because I was just turning my brain off and still had top dps on my team. Granted it might be because the mmr reset but like...

[@1MeanOrange]

Anyone know the reason why they changed the hitboxes, i'm confused.

[@johnsonspark171]

to make the game more accessible to new players. The IP is literally dying even though the Overwatch addicts can't admit it

[@OscarRodriguez-ze6td]

@@johnsonspark171 bungie did this with destiny pvp but by nerfing in air accuracy to make it harder for good players to land shots

[@Soldiir]

I believe technically Pharah has the same amount of fuel she always had, it 'feels' like less because we can't stagger it out and let it refill in the air, it's pretty much all burnt in one go

[@ExclusiveExcellence]

YOOOOO A PANDA WINSTON SKIN WITH THE JADE ON WOULD GO INSANE 🤯🔥

[@Zoobeezoo]

These changes brought to you by: Bullet Bill.

[@MeowLesty]

Someone at Blizzard really really liked release Dark Souls II hitboxes and decided to bring them into Overwatch.

[@chaosjoey123]

Wait how does this work with cover? can you shoot people fully behind cover?