Overwatch 2 Tiktoks That You Just Can't Explain

[@eduardofernandezvega3410]

The objective is no visual clutter and some of the first heroes after release are kiriko, ram, lifeweaver and mauga

[@sebastianrodriguez8992]

To be fair a good chunk of that clutter was also because echo copied a tank adding to said clutter

[@eduardofernandezvega3410]

@@sebastianrodriguez8992 True but the point is that with a no clutter objective they added kitsune, anihilation, tree and cage fight, some of the ults with most clutter in the whole game

[@M1ER-gc6jk]

Can't believe Ram got a cosmetic nerf because his ability was too much visual clutter lmao​@eduardofernandezvega3410

[@sebastianrodriguez8992]

@@eduardofernandezvega3410 True they seem to wanna go heavier on the visuals and make the game a bit more cinematic, Annihilation is very noticable compared to zarya grav that just feels lackluster even if it gets great value They seem to want you to be able to see the power of the effects instead of just stats Rein earth shatter is an absolute monster to get hit by but looks way more lacking than ventures tectonic shock So they've definitely been beefing up the visuals department for new ults

[@its_lucky2526]

and illari covering your screen in cheese for no reason

[@reagansido5823]

"You're getting youself killed, running in when we're trying to regroup." "No." Well damn. Guess they're right about cosmetic supports.

[@ironman1458]

Looks at the support stats on the other team, that is what a non cosmetic support looks like. Highest elims in game. 0 deaths. More damage than both of the "protagonist support duo" combined, and they are keeping up in heals. Any support can go moira and play like a bitch afk heal botting the tank from a safe position you have 0 chance to die at, doesn't mean you are playing well or doing your job just because you kept up in heals when all that is just inflated from heal botting the tank. Also theyre literally playing moira 50% of those heals are on herself anyway. So they have no damage, die more, no elims, supports literally afk in base, and they are barely even healing more. The supports got gapped even harder than the dps, they trying to act like the enemy dps carried but who has the highest elim in game? THE ENEMY SUPPORT. If you're going to be completely outclassed cosmetic healbot support the LEAST you can do is actually outheal them and not just by 5%, if you're doing half the damage as their support and providing literally 0 kill pressure, you need to actually have a high healing number. 900 damage healbot moira = textbook cosmetic support

[@bobrulz]

@@ironman1458 wdym the moira finished 20-4 with 7k damage.

[@rosegokublack7072]

​@@ironman1458Maybe The Enemy Support Has 0 Deaths Because Their Dps Ran In Without A Team Just To Die. While The Other Supports Are Trying To Sustain Themselves And Thier Team That Has To Do Extra Work Because Of 2 Bot Dps. The Problem Isn't The Supports. It's The Braindead Dps That Ran In Guns Blazing, No Wonder The Enemy Support Had More Elims, The Dps Served Themselves Up On A Silver Platter.

[@WrektSK]

@@ironman1458 certified bronze/silver take.

[@peanut4831]

⁠@@ironman1458Holy copium, the reason the other supports have zero death is because the DPS (the role that exists to punish the mistakes of the enemy support / DPS) kept dying. If the Soldier 76 did not die off spawn every fight and could actually be around to punish the enemy support / DPS, they would not have zero deaths. The enemy supports have more damage because they do not need to worry about having to heal their team so much because the enemy DPS keep dying. Which reduces the pressure on the supports to heal allowing them to slot in damage between their healing. Think laterally before you come in here dropping silver takes on how the game plays.

[@tgg5045]

zarya saying "youre soldier and tracer, you can self sustain" and getting countered with a "shut the fuck up" is actually insane to me

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

They know Zarya was right, but they're so dumb they can't make another come back.

[@tbtnr9851]

If you argue with someone dumb it will make you dumber, best to just mute them

[@caleb_dume]

Jesus, that illios game with the dps refusing to regroup was painfully relatable 😭 A personal favourite of mine, me falling back as Lucio to taxi out reaper back to the team, and he flamed me for trying to heal him when he’s full health. I was on speed 😂 Bro didn’t even know what Lucio’s main function was 😭

[@DjZephy]

So many DPS players are completely braindead.

[@fyrechyld_4571]

God damn, that "nobody asked" Wii bit fucking got me

[@GuidedByCompassion]

That Bogur server lag clip made me laugh my ass off, and genuinely brightened my day. 🤣

[@arandajose20]

I love that with the kiriko video the answer was always zuzu lmao.

[@Urboyyycarlos]

That moment of Flats saying "Ban Him" Gave me instant whiplash as the thought of Flats essentially being the Caseoh (if i misspelled it, my bad) - of overwatch just blew my mind That aside,lately my favorite videos have been his reactions to the Buffs,Nerfs,Brain dead tiktoks and creators being mad at OW Flats has some of the better overwatch opinions out there

[@psyjinx]

4:14 Probably the greatest thing I've seen in a while.

[@exterminator1776]

2:40 this is why I just don't bother going into voice chat anymore why bother getting miserable at other people yelling and complaining when it's not going to help me

[@Ryan2K900]

Some of those people probably wouldn’t believe you if you told them fish can breathe underwater

[@devinaschenbrenner2683]

Every Ult going off and then the server crashing is Peak Overwatch😂.

[@owenkaplan2179]

That was MY Rein air-shatter tech video that someone stole and reuploaded to TikTok. The reuploader cut out a lot of important context and caveats, but the gist is the tech allows you to have your cake and eat it too by gaining the movement of the jump shatter AND the speed of a grounded shatter. It's been a thing since OW1, but faded into obscurity since there are few remaining Reins who are skilled enough to pull it off consistently, and failing it has big consequences. I can answer questions from anyone wanting to try it!

[@asonofliberty3662]

Funny you just recap the video and don’t explain the extra stuff you claim to know. Instead of telling us how it works you just said what any layman could gather from the video

[@owenkaplan2179]

@@asonofliberty3662 I’m sorry lol do you think I’m trying to fake ownership of a Rein tech vid for clout? This video is ancient at this point and you seem like someone who just wants to be a prick rather than actually learn the tech, but if you REALLY wanna know, the biggest caveat that got cut out is how the tech is impossible on uneven ground-it needs to be a perfectly flat plane. I also talk about how you’re able to perform one out of a charge-cancel with different timing that produces different visual effects. I literally told you that you can go watch the original credited video but I hope writing this comment was easier for you! :) There are nicer ways to tell me you can’t do it…

[@mystycfyremaster2299]

One of the things that I learnt sometime in OW1 but never seem to see online is that you can animation cancel reapers reload halfway through. Makes it feel much smoother and I think you get to shoot slightly earlier

[@giveitarub7215]

Yesterday I had a venture blame me, the genji, with more damage, kills, and 6 deaths compared to their 12 deaths, that we lost because "genji was being useless and not flanking". Completely ignored our 12 death tank who had no concept of LoS or the fact our supports had half the healing of the enemy and our Ana with 12 deaths was getting outhealed by Zen Naw bro it was all my fault, I'm supposed to flank while our tank is dead into their whole team. Some people are so delusional lol

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

Probably grouped together, why else would they blame you

[@Chromomancer]

11:50, you can also crouch in wraith form, can help against widows(maybe) if you uncrouch as your fade ends

[@James-zz6nq]

ong i played with the dino dude last night and he was just as clueless then as he was in that tiktok. perma feeding widow as ashe only to then swap to genji against a mei, moira, and winton. Mentally deficient player for sure.

[@DoubleSt0rm]

As a Plat Tank waiting for the 14th these interactions are my daily bread, I have never related to a clip this much since watching Cloudy getting depressed playing Rein...... wait..

[@4589dude]

I'm a DPS main and I firmly believe we should ONLY be getting tank and support heroes until the roles are relatively even. I don't see how DPS players should feel entitled to anything more if they care about the health/balance of the game. If you're honestly begging for more DPS characters that tells me you care more about having new toys to play with (cuz you're easily bored by the millions you currently have ig) and less about the competitive experience.

[@TheOriginalStarwalker64]

4:33 shoutout that tank for doing God's work

[@PeytonHillstead]

Flats lowkey has a 100yd death stare

[@apexonly8934]

I often want to blame the support then I watch kill cam and see that I am alone in the enemy backline.

[@ianchambers37]

😂

[@KokomiClan]

Me during 6 v 6: *Plays custom game - mini overwatch - with nonstop ult spam from 12 players* Zero crashes.

[@vulpixie__]

yeah it’s just the duplicate cage fight getting deployed at the same time as both regular ults

[@TheEquestrianGallade]

For the Emongg clip, I'm pretty sure it's just the overlapping Mauga ults that causes the crash. The ult itself has documented glitches involving respawn locations, so multiple overlapping, especially two on the same team thanks to the Echo, is causing the game to freak out and crash.

[@Hungry_Raccoon_]

Once had a game where I was playing support, I was playing moira and half way through the game I have 12 kills, 5k dmg and 5k healing (more dmg than the guy who complains and about 1k less healing than the highest in the game) had a dps start complaining because “you aren’t healing enough” at the end of the game I had 22 kills, 8k dmg, and 12k healing, highest heal stat in the game and bro started yapping about how “just because you kill doesn’t mean you are getting value, you need to heal” the real problem was my friend who had 7k healing but that’s my bro so he chill. Also I was playing moira which genuinely most of the kills a moira gets is because they threw an orb into the enemy team and getting 5 because it did 20 damage to everyone.

[@taserfac3_]

I could not stop laughing after seeing that Bogur clip 😂😂 what ML7 said just made it so much funnier.

[@Stigma0005]

Dps players are something else. I had a sombra say to me "bap, how many times am i going to die infront of you?" And i was like zero bro. You flanked ana, got slept, and got glocked by mercy. 7 times. Thats not a me problem.

[@fancymustache3793]

If the supports are cosmetic what are the dps? deadweight? maybe they picked the deaths per second role and not the damage per second

[@ironman1458]

What they mean by "cosmetic support" is they are doing nothing compared to the supps on the other team who are doing more damage, dying less, healing the same, actually killing things. Who has most elim in game? Enemy support. Who has least deaths in game? Enemy support. Both that support duo damage combined is less than one of the enemy support. And they still convinced themselves they did well. Support players are so delusional

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

​@@ironman1458Cosmetic dps

[@carterf00888]

"I will haunt you" xD

[@allanturmaine5496]

"Nobody asked!" 😂😂😂

[@FenekkuKitsune]

Oh my god that nobody asked clip was brilliant

[@isaiah5833]

4:25 Bruh that is something we all need in our lives 😂

[@rngsmiles3979]

I legit thought that shatter tech has been a thing for a long time. Like Goats era tech, back when people started optimizing the characters more.

[@owenkaplan2179]

It has. Like as far as I remember. That was my video (which someone stole and put on tiktok), and I decided to make it recently because there are so few Rein players remaining who are even good enough to hit it consistently these days that it's kinda become lost to time. Hell, even Flats didn't know it so there's the proof it was worth reminding the community lol

[@rngsmiles3979]

@@owenkaplan2179 I don't know how Flats didn't know the tech since he has been playing Rein for so long, but honestly good on you for sharing the knowledge. I would love to see more Rein mirrors in my games.

[@thunderryo4304]

bro i was cackling at reaper aim training

[@CaelenSawyers]

I don't play comp cause of an audio bug with my PC but do play a ton of QP on an account named "Winton" You would not BELIEVE the number of times I leave spawn at the start to the enemies rolling out in Bastion/Reaper/Orisa/Mauga/Hog variations lmfao

[@Spenn35]

that kiriko guide is just suzu it

[@xombiexd]

that reinhardt ult tip was so cool, we should nerf rein for that

[@uriahthegreat5004]

3:20 The reason I hate getting 4 stacks on my team

[@Neceroe]

It's a duo....

[@defaultdan7923]

@@Neceroeyeah but a similar situation can occur with 4 stacks if you’re a solo player

[@austinmoe4865]

Dude, imagine how bad the visual clutter would be if we went back to 6v6 right now? Another reason to never look back.

[@lfwalrus]

some advice vs roadhog if ur kirko, dont make yourself the target of his hook, drawing attention to yourself as a main healer is a dubious strategic decision

[@austinhunt6566]

10:40 imagine 2 dvas and 2 echos and the echos copy the other dva and then everyone uses bomb

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

Had that before, I still call it the Hiroshima moment

[@vulpixie__]

good ol zombie comp

[@fettbub92]

Them Dunning/Kruger players flaiming their teammates when they feed into the enemy 1v5 are getting worse. I thought it was bad in the classic game.

[@fettbub92]

@@ironman1458 good point. I would advise people to reset after youre supports die. That said, this wasn't that scenario. While we don't know what lead to the supports dying, we do know that the rest of the team had no idea their supports were dead, and expected to be healed through whatever was happening. When they found out the supports were dead, they failed to point out any feeding that may have happened. We may never know without the replay. That doesn't really absolve these people of being dunning/kruger players, it just means the whole team may be making grave mistakes; which is the most likely case. More mistakes increases your chances of loses, leading to lower sr and mmr. To end of this long winded response, I suggest just reseting and planning your next fight when your supports die early, it leads to more wins.

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

​@@fettbub92Its even possible that they weren't making any major mistakes and the enemy teams was simply better overall, but the dps players just found someone to blame instead. Its very easy for a support to outdamage multiple people when their team isnt dying a whole lot compared to the enemy team.

[@WolvericCatkin]

So Kiriu's solution to anything is basically just, _See a gun?_ Suzu _See a hammer?_ Suzu _See a bomb?_ Suzu Their saving options are basically just, _"Oops! All Suzu!"_ 😅

[@PickleCODM]

You explained them flats

[@CoeGr]

11 Ults in that Egg clip.

[@eradian1]

Imagine releasing a second version of the game you released years prior, reduce the number of players in each game, fail to add extra content, and put it all on new software that (should) run better only to have players well over a year after the second release break the game by using their abilities. Blizzard does not respect you.

[@KirbyOnCronic]

Why are you hear then? Go play something else, fuck boi.

[@Freddy-FNBR]

4:20 got that dude good

[@pan1337]

I had a game recently where I was just getting cooked as DPS, though it was mostly getting near insta killed by enemy echo and widow with mercy DB. Echo especially putting out insane damage. Though I had double the deaths of all my teammates, mostly because I got caught lacking by widow, which that wasn’t my supports fault, it was mine, but we also didn’t have a mercy, and a lot of the times in lower ranked games, not having a mercy on both teams means it’s like playing 5v6 which is very infuriating

[@stampyxmilk]

4:47 I really had a game like this I thought I was the Moria for a sec 😭 they were saying the same thing it’s they’re favorite word

[@NEWBOTANICA]

If kiri's suzu was 25 seconds i'd be so joyous

[@doggermelon]

cosmetic DPS LMAO

[@BigOwl51]

I was playing no limits and it was 5v5 dvas on both teams and it literally moved at 10fps during team fights

[@Majimba_Enjoyer]

"ugh i want more dps heroes" BRO WE ALREADY GOT ENOUGH HEROES IN THE ENTIRE GAME. the longer we keep adding heroes the less balanced the game will be and it WILL BE a worse experience

[@Hoodini2253]

7:47 this is literally my experience of every game and why I don’t play anymore

[@zkillyatt1738]

DPS players think they are the main character and get pissed when they get out skilled.

[@Void-Knull]

it's hard to get rid of visual clutter in a game where abilities have to stand out and be noticable, but I'd say it's significantly better than ow1

[@raedev]

all of the kiri tips were "use suzu". really says something about suzu as an ability lol

[@SoleadoSP9]

It was how to counter ultimate abilities it doesn’t say anything

[@iSuckAtGamesGG]

​@@SoleadoSP9countering that many ults with a cooldown is insane

[@raedev]

@@SoleadoSP9 what other character can counter that much stuff with a singular button with a very very lenient timeframe? You're right, that was about countering ults. And only ults. It didn't even go into all the other abilities kiriko can counter.

[@SoleadoSP9]

@@raedev Sombra, Baptiste, Lifeweaver, Mercy, Ana

[@redpaw2153]

11:13 I'm so glad you mentioned how quiet it is, if only you or an editor MADE IT LOUDER! I can't hear that shit either my guy, and then I turn it up and you say something and blow my fucking ears out 😅

[@gabrielpaquet5606]

Stopping people from saying stopping people from saying first

[@xavierparker4465]

tank players be like; they have hog can we get an Ana? .................. good talk. then get blamed for not dealing with the hog :)

[@afriendofafriend5766]

I thought the Kiriko one was just going to be a "use suzu" joke. It's such a stupid ability

[@hendrixxlations314]

what i wanna know is when will they stop releasing new characters? at some point if they keep doing so the character select menu gonna take up half the screen lol

[@mayoroflazytown466]

How to counter every ult as kiriko. Press suzu button

[@toxic_icecream]

Less visual clutter - ow 2 development - its free real estate

[@nips7307]

was there a fish?

[@tortillaturtle1]

I had a game where I was winton, and the enemy dps swapped bastion reaper and the tank swapped to orisa

[@THEONE-ik7ef]

4:45 is me except i pick doom so everyone still blames me

[@anarchy5282]

Kiriko tips video. "Just suzu" Wow

[@DaniDipp]

kryrena godlike editing xD

[@Chromomancer]

7:00, I care not for any new DPS, I play basicly only Genji. Though it would be nice to have some sort of actual stun besides hack

[@sgarrinda6948]

ready for blizzord to take the shatter thing away if it is a thing just cuz we cant have nice things. Im still salty i never got to use b hop shatter i dont see what was the issue with it

[@iSuckAtGamesGG]

blizzord

[@BudewFan_]

It was too fun that’s the problem Overwatch is meant as a containment platform for toxic players just like league of legends obviously /j

[@Randomness662]

*Remember when Overwatch 2 was supposed to have less hard CC, less visual clutter, and better queue times? Man, oh man...

[@NachtBogen]

The not enough new dps heros debate people have to realize that alot of us came from overwatch 1. We were starved for new supports back then. Blizzard just had to play catch-up with overwatch 2. Now that it has stabilized we can get more dps now

[@theredguy92]

So glad they removed borders and your rank icons those really were the worst of the visual clutter 😂

[@necondaa]

The most dumbest thing you could’ve said, the borders are rank icon need to come back. They even said they want to add it back soon in a interview

[@Phobie_2000]

@@necondaathey were being sarcastic.

[@necondaa]

@@Phobie_2000 and

[@DeLdEl789]

First video, everyone pressed Y/Q easy to explain

[@2bodybags]

i dont blame the dps for blaming the supports,they were trying to fight for honor and glory while the supports were waiting smh

[@Matthew_Calmert]

10:00 Is that why we can't get a second tank? servers would crash?

[@ImEcchi]

Damn let’s ban a league player but not ban all the guys who curse every second “EVERY” match. PJ is definitely a sub to Microsoft.

[@AngryWet]

How do you make less visual clutter as you add more characters without overlapping models to confuse?

[@megastormy497]

10:24 I don't think it crashed because of the number of ults. It crashed because of the type. Echo using muaga ult while their muaga ultted deleted the blue teams muaga cage and redid it and it panicked

[@3xplosives]

2:39 how do they have the same username as me ;-;

[@awesome-dp1oo]

9:29 speaking of dead servers Last night when I was playing qp with friends, I got kicked off the servers, replaced by someone else, and then 20 seconds later THEY were kicked off the server as well, putting me back into the game. Still got a penalty though 🤷‍♂️

[@ianchambers37]

I had a comp game earlier where I loaded in... and I was the only person in the game lol. A few seconds later I see a message about the gaming ending and my rank will not be effected. It's definitely a weird experience for sure. Sorry to hear you got a penalty. That's pretty lame.

[@BigOwl51]

Nah if i had dps like these 3:32 I would just stop healing altogether out of pure spite.

[@lordcommandersnow1611]

Jesus the feeding useless DPS players complaining about supports... I occasionally feed as tank and dps too but I never complain abt supports if that happens bc I have half a brain lmao.

[@dominicharvey6048]

Ultwatch

[@TheMetalheadWeeb]

FlAtS fElL oFf

[@thekinggoblin639]

11:44 wdym? reaper uses shotguns but he's still technically hitscan. No hit = no damage?

[@DragonEdge10]

If you're failing to hit the majority of your reaper shots, you have higher priorities than reaper aim training lol

[@Azaism]

They don't have to fix the over abundance of DPS chars by only releasing new tanks and supports. They can also convert some existing DPS chars to other roles. Sym should be reworked to be support again. Mei should be a tank. Echo should finally become the support she was originally supposed to be. Sombra could be redeemed by being changed to support. Etc.

[@bananabread4075]

I know people of any role could have this attitude but when are we going to start the movement that DPS players are the problem most of the time and I don't mean anything about the game or the heroes I'm talking about their attitude once they feel the need to actually speak up finally

[@pabl0334]

Oh no a new rien shatter mechanic you can do... thats going bye bye like the Bhop shatter cuz why not rien doesn't need any help at all

[@owenkaplan2179]

This tech has been a thing since even before Bhop actually. Basically since the launch of OW1. It's become lost to time since there are so few remaining Rein players from back then who can even still pull it off in a game. That's why I decided to make the video. If Bliz hasn't removed it in 8 years, I doubt they ever will.

[@ahmedwerya3987]

What is up with the bots in comments recently

[@yungwallione157]

Sad when tik toks are better than the actual game

[@kadenbew4031]

Hot take but mauga meta is worse then goats meta

[@Guencez]

Same fucking shirt everyday dawg

[@ready2die723]

STOP TRICKLING IN TO THE POINT

[@roland8357]

Why would you taxi a moria on ilios well...... i would take that 4 v 5 all day on lucio. Moira will be back

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

Faster fades, faster regroups. Is it possibly a misplay? Perhaps, but the dps should also know your main healers died, play off health packs and play safely instead of going in for kills, Ashe should've backed out instantly the second Genji Doom died together, regardless if Moira Lucio was still alive.

[@roland8357]

@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong my opinion is if the Moira already got picked the team fight already started. Rather go all in than try to kite especially on small maps

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

@@roland8357 You dont know that, the fight could've already started and it went for a while and she died first. At that point you should backout if you can, catch a kill if someone IS low enough or die asap and regroup. First part of the clip, sure go all in. That would be lucio's fault. The rest are literally the dps being bronze level awareness.

[@CryoKeqing]

This is like the 3rd upload of the same reacts ….. kinda annoying

[@MixxdAM]

Yeah? It’s not for his twitch chat that was watching when he did the reacts, this is for his KZbin viewers that can’t catch streams

[@eirin481]

bait

[@Randomness662]

6:27 Illari enunciates the Ls in her name big dog. It's not EEYARI. Can y'all please just go back to her origin story and hear her fuckin say it ffs it's not that hard.

[@ianchambers37]

🤨

[@hodgmandinio1]

more reused content. unsubbed

[@ironman1458]

3:23 You're getting outperformed by their supports too, why are they 9/0 with highest elims in game out damaging you and your duo combined while you're 0-1 and 1-2, and you are BARELY even outhealing them. AND you're playing moira which means most of your heals are on yourself so that 500 extra healing you did was not even on your dps. This is the textbook cosmetic support

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

Found the 2 dps players complaining about going in by themselves

[@ironman1458]

yeah that supp duo was ass too. trying to act like the dps players are getting gapped when the enemy support has highest elims in game and more damage than both that supp duo combined while outputting the same heals and dying less (hence cosmetic support since they are dying more, doing less damage, putting less pressure, getting less elims, and not even healing more). and the supp duo fed way more than their supports no wonder the other 3 couldn't do anything with their supports permanently dead in base. I know exactly that kind of support duo think theyre gods gift to earth but theyre just drones heal botting the tank patting themselves on the back for keeping up in heals while falling behind in every other metric.

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

Okay, you know your supports are dying, could it because dps are constantly fucking going in and dying way before they ever grouped up? Who knows right, but you god given ass would right?