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[@Awkward2]

To all the people commenting that I should have played the worst matchup, I already have a video on this that shows at the first 5 seconds of the video.

[@E.Diaz1337]

Would be interesting to see a part 2

[@Void619]

You should have played tank in that video, but you chickened out and just rolled low rank plebs on damage heroes. If you really believe that counter picking on tank is not a thing, then play the worst matchup on tank in your rank and not some lower ranked games.

[@Sushie55]

@@Void619 His entire point is that if you’re better than someone it doesn’t matter who you play. But if he plays against people who are as good as him then it’s gonna be a 50/50 and his point won’t be proven. If you’re in a low rank and he showed you that countering doesn’t apply to low ranks you got nothing to complain about.

[@Ahrone1586]

​@@Void619i made my way to top 14 otp dva. You think they dont pick zayra/mei/symm? I won anyways, if you are here, at least tey to improve and stop this bs about counters.

[@Ren21727]

@@Void619 he did an unranked to GM rein only and ball only. Ofc in those games, he had games where he was playing against entire teams trying to counter his one trick pick. Doesn't that prove you wrong already?

[@thor2379]

funny thing is people do this in every rank and quickplay now too. and teammates will rage if you dont swap when they go counters its crazy

[@kossettereaditte7552]

Me and friends played against this tank who died once and countered within the first second of the game. So our tank countered and this kept happening through the entire game.

[@LelandJ71]

And arcade even. Mayhem

[@AntivenomOW]

I recently got called the n-word in quick play, because I didn’t swap 😭 These players are unhinged

[@Zephyr314]

It makes the game so much less fun if you have a main. I want to have a variety of matchups not 1 tank that always gets swapped to.

[@dylancrosby2451]

In qp I get counter swapped 90% of my games.

[@Dankflamio]

Hearing awkward talk about counterpicks and changing characters so often feels like I'm in a weird parallel universe.

[@masterofspawnz]

Irl MirrorWatch it seems

[@EmoScreamoForever]

“Heal, heal, heal.” “They go forwards, I go forward.”

[@methodOW]

Mirrorwatch effect

[@slater004]

It's not a parallel universe we all just live in the same universe

[@jorgeomarpassarelli8202]

​@@EmoScreamoForeverDirect angle

[@esaualfaro3447]

Evil Awkward be like: "They play Dva? You pick Zarya."

[@VoltismProductions]

Some of the people I play with literally don't talk about any sort of strategy or different playstyle if they're losing, it's literally just "hmm what should I swap to"

[@danielmcgrath680]

Because its the easiest most straight forward strategy

[@P_Jag]

Yep. Welcome to ow2 5v5. Brainless game now.

[@aceofpurity]

This is mainly tanks and dps, as a suppprt player you can play kiri ana and bap and instantly get value but if a shitty tank is counterpicked and killed every fight then he will swap as the solution.

[@kweechy]

I pretty much just stay Winston no matter what, because the enemy team is going to self-destruct with toxicity when they go full counter picks and aren't auto winning. I don't think I've actually ever lost to a Hog or Mauga player even in D1-M4 because they spend the ENTIRE game going "must counter monkey, must counter monkey" except my mobility is 20x better and I just literally never let them take the 1v1 against me. So I spend all match killing their team, while they spend all match trying and failing to kill me. I take full map control against their team and they're left with no angles, eventually my team shreds their tanks, I don't need to be able to 1v1 a Hog or Mauga because eventually we'll just 5v1 them.

[@aceofpurity]

@@kweechy then it’s the squishes faults for not being able to survive into dive comp

[@danielmcgrath680]

I dont think anybody has ever denied that if youre better than the enemy tank you dont need to counterswap. But if youre evenly matched countering definitely makes the match a whole lot easier. Theres no myth here lol

[@bemo9]

yeah, vid doesnt really make a point. just for entertainment it seems

[@Daddyjman]

That’s the point he’s making. If you focus on getting better instead of counter picking and who’s meta then it’s a better use of time. If your good counterpicking doesn’t exist

[@danielmcgrath680]

@@Daddyjman And the point im making is its very unfun to have a 28% winrate because you keep forcing winston into hog.

[@debohancock4716]

​@danielmcgrath680 100% agree. I really like awkwards vids but this one was a miss for me. Counterpicking 100% works most the time in an even match. I've lost count of how many times I've seen games completely turn around for my team or the other because of a simple counter swap.

[@Ren21727]

​@@danielmcgrath680that 28% winrate is only indicative that you need to work on your Winston more. You're never gonna get your Winston wr if you just swap and don't fucking play the hero. The only time swapping would be necessary is if you're forcing it in top 500+

[@j.r.6271]

I love your delivery. "Look, I'm countering him, it's over!" 😂😂

[@truuskikomo5227]

I actually hope you lose every match to stop the counterpick pandemic. It’s sad how people sometimes rotate through to all the “counters” without really playing the game, only to end up on the hero they started with after a match of practically having no clue. A better option would be to sometimes swap to a hero that fits your team better so you learn to play in certain comps or just stay at the hero you want to play and use your brain a bit more.

[@Zathren]

That's the saddest crap dude. People in comp, not qp, playing 7 heros a round and never getting ult. Then flame you for not countering.

[@SeanStaxxMusic]

If you're good at the heroes, counter-picking a problem enemy to deny their value is a very real thing up to like GM and above.

[@stowlicters8362]

sometimes, you have statistics on this? it isn't some rule where you have to swap, it's contextual. And it works every time, you have to deliberately make a scenario where it doesn't. Then zathren says the same thing all over again, no one ever switches that much.

[@anthonyfarias5076]

I think this is ultimately a case of: do you want to learn or do you want to win? If you play your character against your counters you will learn more. If I could play my main all matches without getting asked to swap I would. My opinion is that I can't be selfish though (in ranked). I have 4 teammates that, generally speaking, want to win and I wouldn't stay on my character if I'm being countered AND they ask me to swap AND I think I'm underperforming. If someone wants statistical data about swapping, KMK made a video about swapping, and the players swap more the higher rank you go up to gm, where it starts decreasing because people basically only play meta. The roles that swap the most are tank, then dps, then support. The video was made before orisa got dismembered in the latest patch, and orisa was both the most countered tank and the tank people swapped to the most lol.

[@truuskikomo5227]

@@stowlicters8362 Assuming you are trying to say something useful, can you please explain what it is you want to say? Im interested in your view on this matter but this is a bit confusing to read. I say sometimes, but you want statistics? on what sometimes is? If I am correct you say that it is not a rule and that it is contextual (I assume you mean that it is not a must and with that I totally agree) It is not a rule, but it always works you say if I am correct? (That is something of which I would like to have some statistics if it is true please) and then you need to deliberately try to not make a counterswap scenario work, else it would always work? This last scentence is true because I have had many games where the counterswap did not work. They tried to counterswap me and I made the scenario that I won from their counterswaps while staying on the same hero I always play. But I doubt that is what you mean so technically true but not in this context I believe. Then you state someone agrees with me, which is fine and true and finally you say no one ever switches that much (I would like some statistics on that) and by “not that much” you mean “sometimes”? Or do you mean they do swap, but not that often in the same match (which is not true unless some of my games never actually existed and im hallucinating the moment I really seem to get in a match where that happen?) Help me out a bit please.

[@noahm6782]

I have a rule for counterpicking, if the enemy team has three or more characters that i feel are countering me, and i cant make it work, then i swap. Im a genji one trick so if i swapped every time i got "countered" id literally never play my hero. If they play zarya, no problem, if they play moira zarya, no problem, if they play moira zarya and another "counter", ill try and make it work but if i cant i swap to reaper or solider (the only heroes i even have a clue how to play, again im a genji otp). The amount of times that i am getting countered by 3 heroes, and i cant make it work at all, are pretty rare, meaning i get to play my hero and improve. Also love how whenever a team is losing its always because im playing genji into my "counter". "Were losing becaue of you, they are playing sym get off genji". Meanwhile ive killed the sym 5 times and the only one killing me is their cree who has cracked aim. Sure im having trouble, but its not cause of the "counter", its cause the other dps has higher skill than me. Swapping to a hero im worse at wont help me deal with the counter that hasnt even been the reason im struggling XD. lol, everytime someone says "get off genji they are playing counters" im like "if i swapped evertime they played a flying or beam character id never even get to play my hero".

[@ysmmac6015]

i feel like you don’t realize how much the ow community actually hates genji until you pick him up for yourself. even when i was tryna learn him in QUICK PLAY, after a single team fight they went zarya, mei, sym, moira, brig. how many kills did i get in the first team fight? 2. just 2.

[@noahm6782]

@@ysmmac6015 One thing that is interesting is that most people know all the counters, dps, tank and support against tanks. Not so much for dps and supports, However, a few characters in the dps and support roster do still have this community knowledge and "vendetta". Imo genji is the one that people actively think to counter the most. Another honourable mention would be like pharah (go hitscan). Yes people know counters to almost every hero, but tanks, and it feels like genji really like, people hone in on making your life miserable. Cant tell you how many times ive had a dps switch to sombra and literally follow me around all game hacking me whenever i try to do something, i remember it was so bad once, that I literally would just wait for the 8 second cooldown to wear off and anticipate that the second it was gone the sombra would come in again for the hack, and used that as my opportunity. Another reason people love counterswapping genji, is that most genjis have no idea how to play into their counters. Ive worked a lot on it and can comfortably say that mei, sym, pharah, moira, and zarya no longer pose an issue if its just them and maybe somone else countering. Still struggle a lot with sombra though. been working on that.

[@h2o684]

​@@ysmmac6015I'm so sorry if it was me and my friends doing that to you, I remember us doing that to a Genji 😭

[@isasukirico5897]

Bro got alot of time on his hands. ☠️

[@ysmmac6015]

@@noahm6782 yea i’m still fairly new to genji and even tho it pisses me off i gotta learn how to play into anything. it’s just so frustrating when one of your 2 cool downs becomes pretty much useless. one time i played doom and this ana after the game literally said sorry to me because she was only using sleep and nade to make my life miserable. i typed back “it’s all good, i gotta learn how to play into it anyway.” it’s just sometimes i play that game in a bad mood and getting cc’d to oblivion or counterswapped while playing the one hero that made me boot up the game that day is insanely tilting lol

[@sykotikOG]

I feel like the first guy cottoned onto what you were doing, and it was just fun to keep it going after the first couple of swaps lol

[@SunnyExMusic]

guessing english isnt ur first language 😂 caught on* just so you know for future reference

[@iamsaiyan2532]

What we learned from thjs video? That roadhog is an absolute unit

[@arminsoli.]

Bro got mad after he got counter picked while he played mauga 😭

[@LelandJ71]

I just finished watching that part and I didn't see him get mad?

[@mulfyx]

​@@LelandJ71all video

[@cyrusstevenson880]

Bro played mauga into hog, didn’t shoot the hog, sprinted straight into 5 people and exploded and said “how did I die I countered him “ like he doesn’t know how to take cover as a top 10 tank

[@theus__]

I main rein and I don’t think ram is a good counter to him… When ramattra came out, he was a monster but nowadays his ultimate isn’t eternal and it’s easy to kite when he’s on nemesis form. The major counter is orisa, always feel like hell playing against the demonic horse but never swap, honor is greater than defeat

[@TheRealKush420]

The problem with people who talk about counter swapping is they are too smart. Ram doesn’t counter you directly, but he makes your job very unfun at times. He can pressure you and your shield AND anyone who is around you…( who whole point of rein brawl is to stay together) it’s not like you couldn’t beat a ram in a 1v1 on rein, but when it comes time to play the team game, Ram’s job is to make your job miserable. Same with most cases of counter swapping. Then the counters stack up on the enemy team and suddenly the game becomes unplayable on ur certain character when your rank is current for the season and u aren’t in placements

[@c.u.c.6202]

As a rammatra player i agree. The reason why i won against most rein players is because they were very bad, they were overextending ect. The times where i lost against rein players was when they were really good(it wasn't my teams fault, truth be told, i got diffed so hard in those games).

[@user-bf3uy5ve9k]

@@c.u.c.6202 counters lowers the skill needed to win the game

[@DontBeBad]

in lower ranks i'd considered a counter but when you move up the ranks they're equal.

[@motivationandknowledge8]

An equally good rein vs ram, rein will always win. Rein counters ram. Ppl just think hur dur punch through shield. Yeah man, u disengage when he’s in punch mode and maul him when he’s out of it.

[@JanTheSun]

How about reverse counter picking? For example when they have a zarya, you go dva

[@ConspiracyCinema]

Already made that video before

[@JanTheSun]

@@ConspiracyCinema oh true, completely forgot about that. For anyone interested, it has been posted 5 months ago on his channel

[@battlehotdog]

@@ConspiracyCinema for tanks?

[@ConspiracyCinema]

@@battlehotdog yeah just look through awkward videos he don’t post much. It was like “i played the WORST matchups to prove counter picking doesn’t exist” maybe?

[@battlehotdog]

@@ConspiracyCinema i found it, he said in the first minute that it's dps only tho

[@Zathren]

Not going to lie, I'm always very flattered when the enemy Tank swaps to Zarya. I believe that means they think my Dva is the "problem." It doesn't usually help them tho, I just stay out of their beam range. But still, flattering.

[@Paul-zh2jp]

exactly. most unfavorable tank matchups are solved by just avoiding the other tank. i think it only becomes a problem with heroes like orisa, because they can just rotate all their cds on you and completely remove you from the game, and there's nothing within your power to avoid it on some heroes

[@kaiki-desu8193]

you dont do any damage either with dva "outside of her beamrange". Just say their tank was bad

[@Paul-zh2jp]

@@kaiki-desu8193 the idea is to take off angles or high ground and kill squishies instead of trying to 1v1 the zarya. it's a given that playing dva only from range doesn't make sense; i'm pretty sure they weren't saying that

[@RadarFinsR]

@@Paul-zh2jp This works to some extent until you're trying to play ball into hog and there's a 40 meter wide circle of death that the enemy supports simply have to play inside to be protected from me(the diameter of roadhog's hook range). Like if there's a massive skill diff I'll just juke his hooks or kill supports so fast that he doesn't respond but it's really not that hard to listen for the giant metal ball rolling in and then hook the gigantic hamsterball. Countering is a gradient, and obviously isn't just the hero but the play-style around it, some counter strategies are just far simpler than others. Obviously Awkward is a far better player than me but even this gameplay shows it, he's not used to play the hog countering winston style at all. He hooks into winstons bubble and then lets his Ana die when he could have played it patient and waited till bubble breaks expires or he gets a support hoook to trade out but instead he greeds rushing into the bubble and missing hook, winston jumps his ana now that hook has no CD and kills her then because the enemy team swaps tank he goes in an feeds intentionally to try and swap off, then forgets to swap off and goes back and ultis. Like entertaining as fuck but he's doing a bit at that point and then uses him almost getting capped on there as an example of how counterpicking wasn't really effective (when you're actively feeding while you have ulti up to swap for the lulz) Some tanks just need to augment their playstyle to deal with various "counters' others have trouble leveraging any value at all verse certain tanks playing certain ways. Thank you for coming to my tedtalk. That said I do find it pretty funny how many people spend half the game swapping while trying to find the perfect counter while just getting rolled on by skill diff and never building up an ulti.

[@Maidandthepocketwatchofblood]

@@kaiki-desu8193 Bro Zarya only has 2 bubbles and her beam range isn't infinite. You're literally the type of person awkward always clowns in these videos.

[@nicodro6806]

Editor playing the runescape tunes i fucking love it

[@maxtoasted]

Counterpicking isn't really about the tank matchup, though. As a top 500 flex tank, the main issue is that the higher up you go, the more you ignore the enemy tank. What realistically pushes you to counter swap are the supports and the DPS. If I'm playing Roadhog and the enemy goes Orisa, I'm going to ignore the Orisa primarily. There's some gameplay variety, but if they go Ana, Tracer, I provide no value. Because I'm the singular tank on the team, we, in terms of total value, have the worst comp. If we were playing on an equal level, they win simply because of counterpicking. That's why in Overwatch2, counterpicking is more oppressive.

[@rhiisnow]

i love when im playing hog and the enemy dps swaps to tracer, the only dps i can still one shot

[@DESPAIR_714]

To be honest i always thought that you can play any tank and tank counters help you win but the counter itself wont be like a free win button. HOWEVER dps countering tanks are a really big problem. I think dps countering tanks are way more impactful than tank countering tanks. (Ex doom gets countered by orisa and hog but still able to outplay and go for backline, but for dps cass/sombra are literally almost impossible to counter)

[@useless2825]

Love how there was no such thing as countering Ramattra in this video 😭 dude is the all around Tank at that point it’s up to your dps and support

[@Syodounaguri]

I'm a Japanese Overwatch player. Always looking at you! I support you！

[@FairwellNoob]

I'm an Overwatch player. Always looking at you! I support you！

[@therebelfrogy9287]

​@@FairwellNoob Now that sounds like a bot

[@FairwellNoob]

@@therebelfrogy9287 Me or him? Just found it funny why we had to specify he's japanese. Could just be a translation barrier bug tho

[@honestlywhatever]

@@FairwellNoob As an American that's written similar comments in a sea of Japanese comments, it doesn't seem that strange to me. Idk why I do, but I've seen it a lot in Japanese chats. It's like "watching from (country)"

[@charlieduarte6617]

僕もうまくになりたくてチームメイトを探している。良ければ追加して２人で遊ぼうよ。(NearDeathXP#1832)。アメリカに住んでいるキューバ人です。日本語をある程度話せる。

[@SixPHD]

i laughed 20 times watching this video. ty awkward

[@MrJoe_Roblox]

I really thank you for all these psychological tips such as my teammates arent stopping me, counters dont matter, yelling at ur teammates wont help (took me a long time to realise that), etc. Ever since I tried looking at my mistakes from my gameplay, it felt like i was getting better and better and today, after not playing all week so i can watch my VODs and aim train, in 2 hours i ranked up from diamond 5 20% to to diamond 3 44%

[@LuxuryYodas]

Continue this as a series, its actually funny

[@Zebiven]

as someone who's played runescape since 1st grade, I love the oldschool music in the background omg

[@Chairoum]

This gotta be Awkward's evil brother, Confident. He would never counterswap.

[@fenixspider5776]

Just pick whatever the enemy is playing counters everytime

[@stowlicters8362]

No, games don't usually play out like that.

[@BlueRiptide]

@@stowlicters8362 yea if ur worse than the other tank lmao

[@useless2825]

@@BlueRiptidesometimes it’s not even about the enemy tank. The dps and support could just be selling 😭

[@nyssapurchase3143]

Awkward saying 'Lag??' will never not be funny 🤣🤣

[@IcarusWhoLived]

Nothing get me more excited to play overwatch 2 like you Keep up the grind

[@Robellebor]

I love awkward's mocking voice 😂😂

[@AntivenomOW]

I recently had a match where I was playing Zarya and because I was absolutely rolling the enemy tank he kept counterswaping into Rein and Winston, but that didn’t help him at all. After looking at his profile I realized he had 4000 hours in this game while I only have 400h. This was one of my proudest moments in my overwatch history 😅

[@josepepe9]

The ovw og players have counterswitch rooted in their brains 😮

[@kweechy]

It's also up to the rest of your team to pick and play smart too. Notice that the game where Awkward struggles on Zarya vs DVa, it's because he is getting pretty torn up by DVa's DPS deciding to go Soldier along with good support picks vs Zarya...their Soldier posted up high ground on the building towards the end of 2nd point and there was literally nothing Awkward could do about that on Zarya. I pretty much only play Winston, if they go Hog against me and my team decides to bless me by picking Ana, Zen, Tracer, Sojourn...I will literally never swap off Winston, because their tank will stay Hog and lose.

[@raciawelli]

some of this games looks like mysterious heroes. its crazy. how you are going to charge ult with that kind of game style?

[@kelbiekelbie909]

This is such a smooth brain approach. Counterpicking is based on the entire enemy team, and the skill of the enemy. I've had people play Zarya against my Dva but they clearly don't understand how she works and they eventually swap despite being on the better pick. You can also be on a good pick relative to the enemy tank but if the enemies are running Zen/Ana then going Orisa is likely not a good idea. You have to take the whole situation into account but your video over simplifies the game to the point of being useless.

[@soyboi8440]

Yeah he went into this already having his mind made

[@CAAFFIEND]

This video just proves counter picking works. Yes, you're not just going to win instantly because you're on the optimal tank pick, but the only way to have agency as a tank in solo queue is to be on the optimal pick at all times, or at least close to optimal. A tank that your team can work with that doesn't get shut down by the enemy team.

[@CeciDoesNails]

Counter picking isnt necessarily tank vs tank. Its also swapping supp and dps to fill a problem area and gap. If they have a hog/mauga, you go ana+zen/reaper+bastion for example. Even in plat/diam where tanks are sometimes ignoring each other when they can, these swaps make the game easier.

[@Seissmo]

This is the tank experience. 😂

[@amgkv2.025]

YO SNEAKYSQUID I know that guy 😂😂😂 15:20

[@mickeybuzzkill]

Really been enjoying the content lately! Thanks, Awkward ☆

[@joshuataylor5080]

This is what every game looks like for me. Every game ends with the enemy on some combination of Reaper, Bastion, Hog, Mauga, Sombra, Zen, Brig, and Cass

[@bertrandfrancois7659]

Franchement on voit vrmt qui a de l'idée c'est super !!! L'histoire m'a l'air bien fondée, ya vrmt un truc à faire avec ça ! Petit conseil ! Il faudrait faire attention au language parce que parfois il a l'air familier et ça ne fait pas " série " En tout cas je garderais un œil sur ce projet génial et j'ai hâte de le voir évoluer dans le temps! J'espère que tu te trouveras une équipe pour optimiser tes animations !

[@kayuha8645]

This could be fun to see in a DPS perspective as well. Not counterwatching DPS vs DPS, but using a DPS hero that "counters" the enemy tank.

[@Lokaminiac]

Things will get complicated when the opponent team has Sombra/reaper.

[@AliHaider-ve3yx]

If the only counter you are getting is the enemy tank then you can outplay them but as a doom main I can literally do nothing when the enemy team goes hog cass sombra ana zen, and I am not even joking this shit happens! Imagine getting hooked hindered hacked slept antid and discorded at the same fucking time.

[@nernoision]

That makes sense in tank pov but can’t your team help you to win and make plays too

[@stowlicters8362]

@@nernoision assuming they help. I made this point in another comment, countering isn't 1v1, it's in the context of a whole team makeup.

[@marcusdelmonaco9759]

Awkward doing the nerd voice always kills me 😂😂

[@RobertBlackface]

Ball main here: Single fight won, counter swap needed

[@bboydojo]

You know what would be funny as a video concept? Twitch chooses your character on death, including staying on for ult or something

[@InfectedSoup]

If Dva --> Zarya If Doomfist --> Orisa / Roadhog If Junkerqueen --> Zarya / Rein / Doomfist If Mauga --> Dva If Rein --> Ramattra / Orisa If Roadhog --> Dva / Orisa If Sigma --> Winston If Winston --> Roadhog / Dva If Ball --> Roadhog If Zarya --> Winston / Rein If Orisa --> Zarya / Winston If Ramattra --> Zarya / Orisa

[@jolness1]

Agree with the conclusion. Play what you like and grow through the struggles.

[@bostafu]

this just shows awkward is a flex god. would love to see this for dps and support. Or switch based on team synergy. Just loving all the skill flexing lol lot of untapped content here.

[@commentbot9510]

Your chat doesn't know what they're talking about when they claim dva counters hog and mauga.

[@anondonor5055]

I'm glad you did this video on tank. I normally try to stay on the same character most of the game unless I am being hard countered, which will happen most games, where I play any tank and first the other tank counterpicks then when its still not enough the dps and supps start swapping too. I take it as a compliment but it makes the game extremely unfun, so I am glad you got to experience what its like as a tank player. You say all the time that the best way to learn a hero is to stay that hero even when your being countered which I 100% agree on and thats why I tend to stay on a hero to get better but I swear if I see another hog player when I am on Monkey or Doomfist im gonna lose it 😂

[@viacomsspy5439]

Awkward, as good as your advice is, you cannot deny that counter picking exists even in T500.

[@lostmycat5671]

I mean he says at the end that it's probably only "necessary" in some situations at the very top and not at all for ranks below that

[@stowlicters8362]

@@lostmycat5671 so he's dishonest.

[@cooperswan534]

@@stowlicters8362what?

[@BlueRiptide]

@@cooperswan534 so he's dishonest.

[@cooperswan534]

@@BlueRiptide huh?

[@tragiicflaw7370]

Bro is the counter pick.

[@lucaskonglu4533]

what people dont understand is that when you get counter picked, they are essentially trying to shut down your play style. for the most part you can still win without swapping heroes if you adjust your playstyle or prioritize a different win confition :)

[@victor9]

"Countering" must be exhausting OMG how would you even have time to enjoy the Game! i would rather lose than swap every 2 min!

[@aSuperPi.]

Counter picking sometimes can work in low ranks but eventually people are going to be able to take advantage of the fact that you aren’t good at a hero because you use counter picking as a crutch.

[@SnowyhtmL]

He swaps I swap he swaps I swap that sounds miserable 😭😭

[@stowlicters8362]

That isn't how the game plays out, I rarely see a game where someone swaps a hero 5 times. You're being childish.

[@gustavol137]

counterpick is so annoying, and the skill issue really shows when they try to counterpick you and you still win just because you know how to play the character and the game!

[@Pedro_eqw]

Awkward picked the worst counters in the beginning

[@DarthCookieOW]

POV: Awkward counterpicks nonstop and wins his games. Then pretends it has nothing to do with it.

[@shrv1]

that roadhog game LOL amazing.

[@Waseemmmm]

The editing is SO BEAUTIFUL My favourite part was the Mc awkward

[@darkvader37]

It's almost like counters only give you a slight advantage...

[@corridonboy]

I've found that doom can be a good sigma counter in the right hands. You can cancel his ult and his succ, plus he doesn't have the movement to prevent you from diving supports

[@lamarpalmer25]

Them hooks were nuts lmao

[@michaelbrooks4585]

Dude it’s not about an individual hero, it’s about the overall comp. If they have doom vs your junker queen, but you have cass sombra Ana, you counter them even though the tank counters your tank

[@praisedsquishy]

amazing thumbnail, zoner in the background counters the grappler

[@nathancasey7712]

The problem with this experiment is you're forcing a counterpick for every single hero. I don't think people are complaining about fighting against zarua as orisa.

[@Perks609]

Now you should pick whatever the other tank counters lol

[@ohsnation1314]

Counter picking is a crappy idea in Overwatch is that it’s almost never a champion pick it’s generally the conflicting play styles of players outside of your roles n play styles with a champion that you originally wanted to play genuinely if you play what you’re most comfortable with and build game sense and knowledge of the game I feel ppl will climb more.

[@MariosAlcoholicFather]

The other team every time I pick tank:

[@Davidstinktjahart43]

Great one

[@MalekiRod-be9yo]

Counter swaps only work if each player is equaly skilled, if a better player is on the less advantaged hero they will win because skill overrides the swap but in an equally skilled match-up it's up to the teams and a small portion of advantage is to counter swaps

[@pheno6427]

Is it just me, or is the editing getting a lot better? There's more interesting stuff being added in post. It's nice to see the content getting better in multiple ways.

[@Shad_man]

Lol is it Awkward's MirrorWatch collab? Thanks for this video, man Another proof that skill always the issue of being plat

[@TiaraAtari]

The Oppenheimer is hilarious

[@Paul-zh2jp]

the explanation at the end if the perfect summary of this issue

[@zendakk]

It's only a perfect summary of his misconception that this is about tank 1v1's... for some reason.

[@Paul-zh2jp]

@@zendakk tank counters are the most noticeable / felt part of it now because of 5v5 and how people approach playing the role now. what do you think is the most pressing aspect of the counter picking issue?

[@anthonyisbell8822]

I just recently got my account suspended for 14 days for "throwing". Teammates would report me bc I refused to swap heroes. Some games we would win by a large margin, and they would still tell the lobby to report me for throwing. After my suspension is over, I will not be returning to ranked role q for tank. The toxicity is not worth it. They think it will benefit the team more if I swap to a hero that I am horrible at playing. I would rather play a hero I am confident with playing. They apparently see that as throwing. Make it make sense.

[@rhiisnow]

i hate counterpickers, they will spend the whole match swapping to a point they didnt even build up a single ultimate till the end of the game

[@solblaze8055]

I have legit been REPORTED for playing wrecking ball instead of the character my team wants....

[@fourplayerarcade]

Can you send the match code so that we can see if they were right or not?

[@fourplayerarcade]

Can you send the match code so we can see if they were right or not?

[@solblaze8055]

@@fourplayerarcade the replay existed months ago , it was not recent

[@Tichondrius-]

Welcome to Overwatch, lol. That was a thing since season 2 of og OW. You are playing Hanzo, Torb, Sym, sometimes even Zen? Reported.

[@hudsonvrwastakenalready]

I am a Pharah main, and I love it when they pick Echo so I can airshot them and they go "wtf?" Btw great vid, as always

[@bigmemeog8221]

Alternate title: Overwatch but its Overwatch

[@staffy.]

the new editing style is a w

[@denzellward5499]

From what i seen in this video, counter swapping the tank takes away the value the other tank is able to apply, which also by addition increases the value you’re able to apply against that tank. However, it doesn’t necessarily make the game easier for you because you have to account for the dps also counter swapping, which takes away the value you can apply. There is only one tank that is an exception to this rule, and that is roadhog. Roadhog and a soft counter to almost every hero in the game when played right. He potentially not only soft-hard counters every tank, but any short to mid range dps and supports as well. However he is also countered by alot of those same heroes, hence he is a soft counter or is still able to work well against them. Orisa and roadhogs intereactions are weird because 7/10, orisa will win the battle vs hog but if the hog is patient and forces the orisa cooldowns, he can actually win the battle. Orisa used to hard counter but ever since the hog “rework”, that’s not the case anymore. All that said, make more tanks like roadhog, the ability the work against any hero can f played right with very few counters. Example, roadhog isn’t very good against flying or long ranged heroes but can take the duel against any other hero with a chance of winning. Just dont make them a tank buster or give them a one shot combo.

[@Mystic-Misfit]

I don't counter pick, but I'm not gonna hold y'all. Its mad funny when the enemy team starts counter picking to stop me, and it doesn't work in the end.

[@ItzSpritz]

I’m not sure what’s hard to understand. Counter picking a single tank doesn’t guarantee a win. But if I’m constantly running a Rein into an orisa and getting whooped, maybe I should swap to a hero that has abilities that perform better against the other tank. Obviously overall skill still matters. But for players of your same skill set, counter picking can help. Not exactly just tank picking, but even just a tank swap to overall help your team.

[@robbell7755]

Well awkward said counter picking doesn't exist. It's how well you play. But I think this proves counter picking is real .

[@pashameshcheriak8281]

Road hog counters diva with his hook into her matrix

[@user-sz9yc2nj3s]

The editor is crazy good

[@tortue_]

Sure the metal rank idea of "go zarya they have dva" is absolutely dumb since high ground for example is the actual defining factor in that matchup. BUT "If the enemy team doesn't want you to play Winston, you don't play Winston" -Bogur for example. Two teams in the same rank can and will utilize the counter picking aspect of the game. It's using the tools you have at meta. You might need to switch since otherwise you would need to put extra effort to make the pick work.

[@quintensteinvoort5579]

6:20 yeah it is, amd your teammates get angry if you dont swap😂

[@AbdulazizOla]

Doom play very well against sigma, his power block get fully charged with the rock, and he can cancel his abilities

[@cyrusstevenson880]

I get what he’s saying, which has always been an underlying message, that skill beats anything. But run winston into hog in a top 10 lobby, which is his skill level, and tell me the enemy team has no counters and that you yourself don’t need to swap cause you can just skill through it

[@jaysonlincoln6129]

Now do the opposite to prove your own point

[@ecciq]

People just want to rank up no matter how they do it. They don’t actually care about spending time to get good at the game, they just want the bigger rank for the ego boost.

[@rivengel3840]

Editing goes hard here!

[@projectzeeno]

🔥🔥🔥

[@TeddyBear-yp5kt]

Ngl almost every counter pick ur chat told u was incorrect. For example Jq counter is orisa and the counter for both dva and orisa is Zaria

[@huntermushero9362]

I know you don’t need my advice but as hog I always bait out genii deflect with a melee. Most of the time they assume you’re trying to hook and they will deflect.

[@danielmcgrath680]

I used to do that in Overwatch 1 cant believe i forgot about that lol ty for reminding me

[@samzamzow8314]

Hey Awkward! I'm not finished with the video yet but I just thought of something that would be really interesting video concept. People complain all the time about counter swapping occurring. Which I think it is pretty relevant as it is something that does happen often in my ranks (gold/plat). What if you did an opposite counter swap video? Like instead of counter swapping to the the pick that is considered the best like you did in the video...what if you flipped the script? What if you counter swapped always to the pick that was considered the worst? They start as roadhog? You come out as Winston. They swap to Orisa? You go doomfist. I think that would be a really excellent way to prove your point on how enough practice makes even the unfavored matchups favorable. Key understanding the characters through FUNDAMENTALS is what's going to help you climb. Love your videos. Hope you keep up the awesome content man!

[@ActuallyKruella]

Now I wanna see u2gm with Hog, you're cracked

[@gangnamkid9635]

best counter to roadhog is roadhog himself