Overwatch Classic PROVES That 6v6 is the FUTURE for OW2

[@omnicat22]

The fact that blizzard completely disregarded and undervalued the “off tank” role is still astonishing. That’s like a football coach going, “yeah we have a center to block both tackles, we don’t need a guard at all.” Water down the game to the point. No combos. Just 10 people in a free for all

[@emerywoods624]

The tank duo was very powerful. I can't think of a single meta that wasn't defined by tank duos.

[@Shatamx]

@@emerywoods624moth meta. Prob the most diverse tank roster OW ever had.

[@emerywoods624]

@@Shatamx fair enough

[@Anti_Social_Bean]

@@emerywoods624 it was very powerful because it required the people to know how to actually synergize with the entire team instead of two people

[@emerywoods624]

@Anti_Social_Bean yeah no. Double tanks on their own was just very strong. I'm not against 2-2-2 I'm just trying make sure people realize that double tanks were very very strong.

[@Kepprah]

Yes! Let me flank on ball and not have to main tank as a FLANK TANK

[@Wizardbeard91]

Off tanks have lost their identity in 5v5 especially ball

[@optical9359]

Isn’t ball a main tank?? Its mostly main tak players that play ball and is usually paired with an off tank like dva or sig.

[@schwolmart]

Ok but what if we do not have enough tank players for 2-2-2?

[@N3kur0_]

As a ball main, I second this, let us play the damn game

[@Kepprah]

@@optical9359 uh… personally I play ball to flank

[@thunderhog45]

I'm not gonna lie. I'm someone who wants 6v6 but overwatch classic has several characters who have felt slow and boring. Gimme late 2017 overwatch

[@flaarezwow2693]

I see I get what you mean, I think a fine balance between what we have now and 2017 and we are sooo back! But I get it, everything was sorta slow back then!

[@thunderhog45]

@flaarezwow2693 Agreed

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

Yea prime overwatch somewhere 2017 and 18 (except for soldier still having that horrible spread) Best modernish overwatch was the oct 2020 patch.

[@dwoodward931]

yep

[@ooooswain]

Overwatch was bad until season 2

[@afterthought9538]

The reason Classic feels so much more fun to play to me is because my effort and impact are more or less proportional. You can see what your damage is doing, you can see how meaningful every shot is... every interaction actually MATTERS. I dont have to cut through a stupid Kaiju, through 2 immorts, dumb immortal digging heroes, infinite Matrix, getting booped by unkillable Balls... It is just super fun, in spite of all its flaws. And far more fun than the main game! I'm booting it up again the moment I get home from work! Happy gaming everyone!

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

Exactly!!!

[@emerywoods624]

Idk why ppl are comparing this to ow2 gameplay. This is not the 6v6 they're gonna be testing and it's no where near what 2-2-2 feels like imo.

[@VB-92]

It's not even that, I had a moment today where I basically hacked virused and unloaded an entire clip in a bastion and watched their HP not budge because Ana and Mercy were both healing him. That simply doesn't happen in classic, no support has the healing to outright out heal damage even if they both pour healing into them. Swap target hack and virus ram, again they also heal the target, nothing changes. These guys were so oblivious, that they didn't even register I was shooting them, and that might be because the hp bar wasn't moving. What's the point of DPS if I literally can't even make a dent with my entire kit if both supports heal. Immortality field needs to be reworked, Suzu needs to at most heal and cleanse, NOT give invulnerability, grip needs to at best give damage resistance or be a projectile like hog hook if it's gonna give invulnerability and all healing across the board needs to be nerfed at least when stacked. All that along side a return to 6 v 6 so I don't instantly have to swap my pic because the enemy tank lost literally one engage and went Zarya, so now I don't get to play the game, because you better believe no one on a team of randoms will swap to soften the counter at least with a second tank, we can delegate Zarya to the other tank and still play D.Va.

[@emerywoods624]

@VB-92 I am 100% sure a bastion being pocketed by ana and mercy will live a Sombra dive in ow1 lol

[@VB-92]

@@emerywoods624 Never said it didn't, I was talking about classic, where Ana doesn't exist. I'm saying it shouldn't. Heal stacking should have diminishing returns, kind of like TF2, multiple medics healing the same target has diminishing returns, making it sub optimal to not spread heals around and making it impossible to make someone unkillable unless they take their entire hp in burst damage. And if 6 v 6 comes back, they're gonna need to do something about shield stacking as well, that's gonna be a whole other headache so we don't return to bunker comps where you're shooting shields all day long.

[@willwunsche6940]

One of the biggest things for me is how much less lonely 6v6 is. Love the more communication, socialization, teamwork and fun. I am fine with how reporting and the filter works currently work though, before it felt like nothing worked. Of course people shouldn't be banned for just swears but I am fine with how it works now.

[@strawberrydialectics]

i wish i was getting more comms😮‍💨

[@fination]

at-least things die in classic (because support are not as op you can actually kill tank and others as well), feeling that is enough for me to realize that overwatch1 is just better. hopefully in the upcoming 6v6 test they will revert season 9 patch (hitbox and hp buffs) and nerf support(mainly aoe healing and immortalities), so we don't have the same problem of nothing dying. even if they don't, not having a mega buffed tank that won't die(and if your tank die, you 99% of the time lose the fight) is a win enough that i wont touch 5v5 ever. and i have no nostalgia affecting my opinion either , i only played from season 9 onwards, i have over 500 hours.

[@sukidakara4326]

Which season 9? You mean you started playing with Ow2 and haven't experienced Ow1?

[@leonzchannelz]

Immortality field and suzu are never getting changed

[@fination]

@@sukidakara4326 yes, i haven't experienced ow1. only played the classic mode for 20hours

[@fination]

@@leonzchannelz they can and should be nerfed increase the cooldown or make it a skill shot that requires aim, or reduce the affect area(splash on suzu, size of immortality field) , if i can come up with these in a minute devs can figure a reasonable way to address immortalities.

[@ciach0_]

they are reverting the tank crit reduction and 150 hp passive from the 6v6 test

[@NightSkyKing]

Playing classic was interesting It felt oddly more breathable without having to shoot massive hp targets all the time, but it certainly wasn't perfect As you stated, snipers were crazy powerful, most tanks felt useless, and the mode itself was very slow It definitely makes you appreciate how far we've come QoL speaking and how much more fluid characters feel now Overall, it was fun but I'll be looking forward to what they do for kingmaker, their last 5v5 test, as well as the 2 6v6 tests coming next season

[@Lo0serx3]

agreed. I do love returning to some of the meme comps, and since I started playing in 2017 I missed out on launch Sym (what is that ball movement speed lmfao) so it's been fun for me to experience that, and use Mercy's old ult again. but it does make me appreciate a lot of the QoL changes, including the bugs that made mercy's movement what it is today

[@NightSkyKing]

@Lo0serx3 absolutely agree I was never around for mass rez so that was fun to use But it definitely made me miss the freedom of movement mercy has currently

[@wizeller5040]

Characters feel more fluid now, but the old bastion was actually better. Bastion's charm is his high damage and low mobility. in overwatch 2 they removed this. He feels weak now, going back to overwatch classic you can just feel the difference, your bullets are actually dangerous. Yes it takes longer to set up and you must stay still to heal, but it's much more fun. I really don't like that they removed his old ult, it was way more fun and way more interesting, the new ult is clunky and arguably the worst ult in the game and not fun at all, it's super lame. I really don't like the bouncy RNG grenade that gives you accidental kills, it's not fun to use and not fun to play against.

[@NightSkyKing]

@wizeller5040 there absolutely were a lot more fun things about classic If we do go back to 6v6, there would be some things to get reverted Namely Bastion, roadhog n doomfist I want dps Doom back lol

[@GouFPS]

@@Lo0serx3 Sym should return to her shield gen patch, so her abilities are her lock on beam, ball(alt fire), turret, teleporter(shift), photon barrier(e), shield gen(ult).

[@yuri990]

2:56 yup I had a game where I dropped 50 kills and it only took 12k damage. In addition I was able to get a 6k blade, big blades almost never happen any more.

[@yuri990]

I should note I’m a OW launch vet

[@ni9274]

big blade don't happen cause they nerfed genji not cause of 5v5

[@french_toast223]

Becuase theres no supports negating your ults

[@liberalstchenel596]

@@ni9274 partially true, he was nerfed sometimes cuz of 5v5, and the supports and tanks are stronger, suzu exists now, lifegrip

[@emerywoods624]

You have to realize the only two characters that can heal the damage you deal was also Lucio and mercy so obviously blade was better. This has nothing to do with 6v6 but had to do with what characters the enemy had available to deal with a dive/flank.

[@daviddavila9213]

Man it feels so good to actually have ultimates matter. does it feel Jankey yes. But the core gameplay is way better than fighting King Kong tanks.

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

Exactly ults actually feel like ults in classic now having an ult in 5v5 is almost useless and takes so long to get anyway

[@michaelrodriguez3327]

The thing I noticed is that as veteran Reinhardt player I died very few times and those few deaths were by my own mistakes. Most of the time I was pushing my teammates safely while my dps were also looking for Hog or genji flanking. You died less because you had another tank or player to keep your errors away. I almost went undefeated 45-1 as Rein-zarya with a random player. The amount of dynamic changes and composition is very interesting to experience. I was retired for months and got a bit interested in the classic mode and it didn’t disappoint me.

[@wolfgangreindeer8891]

Agree! What I noticed is that I didn't feel so pressured as a tank- it was just easier overall. And interestingly much less pressure than 2 tanks in Open-Queue 5v5. I think as you mention, having the extra tank (and maybe an extra player too), helps cover for small mistakes. But at the same time, you got punished instantly by DPS players for major mistakes, which is the way it should be!

[@erikrulez17]

12:50 Not having the Dash on hanzo was certainly an adjustment I had to make, but it honestly felt healthier for my gameplay loop not relying on it.

[@GouFPS]

Lunge was always a meh addition, I always asked for a dbl jump passive

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

Overwatch classic is already destroying Ow2 what a breath of fresh of air it is so much fun! And that’s the problem I have with 5v5 it’s just not fun I can finally play tank again. Dps feels good as well things actually die you get ults way quicker you get combos this proves 6v6 is the Answer!!!!!

[@matthewbrears2129]

Looking forward to them releasing later versions of OW1 patches. This OW 1.0 patch feels pretty bad to me now, but I’m hoping their actual 6v6 test is what we’re all after. I just miss the small combos you could do with 2 tanks. Massive rewards for small pieces of teamwork. 5v5 is just so individual and empty. Landing a halt/hook was more satisfying than landing a 5k with your ult lol

[@geminimaxxim]

I think the best thing about OW Classic is the things that AREN'T in the game. No immos, no Inspire, no Hack, no Fortify, no Cardiac. Even with so little healing, such limited abilities, and sometimes oppressive characters/comps on the other side, I felt so FREE. As clear as I think it is to go back to 6v6, we also need to address a lot of this horse manure that's been mucking up the game, and I worry about the health of the game in either format if we don't do that.

[@testtarget1030]

It really must have been OW1 players. My second came I got Zarya on attack kings row, and with a random Hanzo on my team with no comms we still got off 2 grav-dragon combos to get team fight wins. Felt so good.

[@willtheconqueror6148]

I’m an OW2 only and I agree with this video. Having a rein with me made me wanna play Zarya. I’m Diamond on tank in OW2 but it felt like a chore. I can’t believe they ruined this. There just needs to be some QOL changes and it’s fine. I loved playing Zarya and using grav and then bubbling my genji for his blade. SO FUN

[@PaulStargasm]

But that's the problem with OW1, it wasn't that people didn't want to play Zarya, it's that they didn't want to play Rein.

[@TheUnseenKrab]

Only in 6v6 you can kill a Roadhhog as Mercy. I also forgot Reaper can one shot squishys

[@aegislight5996]

some things straight up didnt change such as junk reaper widow hanzo hog dealing tremendous amount of damage, way to much infact, but classic is still a fucking blast

[@waterrr6332]

​​​@@aegislight5996Only Hanzo and Widow imo. They are fucking bullshit. Scatter and 300 damage at any range feels so ass on any role

[@RIP_ZYZZ1738]

@@aegislight5996I think you’re anti fun. Go play a moba where you need multiple people to get a quick kill or you have to use all your cooldowns to confirm a kill and get out. Overwatchs appeal was always big plays and big ultimates happening constantly.

[@aegislight5996]

using 1 ability and guaranteeing kills constantly is not what someone with common sense would call fun

[@waterrr6332]

@@aegislight5996 Then again in current of Overwatch 2, one ability blocking a whole ass ultimate combo is not fun either. (Lamp behind a wall) At least with the broken stuff in classic, it requires some sort of skill. Widow is the only character that feels like ass to play against

[@GraphiteBlimp27]

I got the game around the anniversary event in 2017 and became a die hard player ever since. I’ve hated the defensive/sustain/bail out oriented gameplay the game has moved to for 6-7 years now. Here are my observations: * I have no nostalgia for this era but it’s cool to see how jank Hog hook was, how terrible Symmetra and Dva were, and how Tracer ruled the game at launch. Also 8 second blade? Oh yeah. *While it’s cool to see an era I missed out on, a lot of the balance and quality of life is atrocious, and it really make appreciate how far we’ve come, both during OW1’s life but honestly even some OW2 stuff * Even more than I remember from late OW1, you can just make plays in launch OW. I got a friend to play who is a total noob, and he was able to build his Zarya ult, and caught 3-4 people in it who all died. I was so hyped for him “that’s an OW1 moment!” I even got my other friend who never plays Genji (my fav hero) to try him and she got a couple blade kills. In OW2 my previous friend is getting his grav suzued, immortalitied, lifegripped, petal platformed, etc. or the players just have too much sustain to die. How can they learn to make the play? Or a friend trying Genji doesn’t have a thousand hours on the hero and will get screwed by those abilities or CC’d, Moira just fades away, etc. Instead of button press save abilities, why not have people be creative, use teamwork, or dodge attacks with clever positioning or be able to juke like in any other shooter? (oh right season 9 hitboxes…) The new design of OW is actually LESS friendly to new players, but somehow also designed for noobs. * No limits is not it, but honestly if we had the global self regen passive it would be way more bearable. It makes me think maybe open queue wouldn’t be so bad with this passive? I used to want all the global/role passives out of the game, but this is the only one I’ll consider now. It just has to be VERY subtle, enough so people can operate if their supports die or people are trolling, but not enough so it can be abused or even noticed in the moment to moment action. I would still want players to think about where their supports are instead of ignoring them and going off on their own mission, that would be a bad result of the passive (AHEM OW2). * Teamwork is peak in 6v6, no question. But also you can pop off on your own since there aren’t so many “undo” abilities. I went 49-8 in a game with only around 10k damage. In OW2 I’d need like 50k to do that. I prefer every role in classic I just would want role queue or at least open queue. * I really don’t want to go back. I’m 100% in favor of 6v6, but we need to move forward. I’d play the crap out of 2017 peak dive meta or a fun DPS Doom era in Classic, but ultimately I just want those things in 2024/25 OW. I cannot wait for the real 6v6 tests!

[@ZakiBlaze]

Couldn't agree more. I think people are honestly missing the point with this gamemode. This is NOT the 6v6 test. It is a throwback to the beginning of OW1 and nothing more. Although there are some good takeaways from it, i think people are jumping to conclusions about 5v5 and 6v6 die at the moment. Yes, theres more team play. Yes things die. But there are no crazy support abilities. Half the roster isnt even around to compare to OW2 gameplay. I just want people to wait for the ACTUAL play tests before jumping on a side of the argument. (Not a 5v5 or 6v6 fanboy btw. Jsut want the game to be in the best state)

[@TheRealBrotherGrimmy]

Removing cooldown on vape was a horrible idea just in general. Like... 10 games into classic play, and it already felt like a much more intellectual game. Actually having to be mindful of everything that's going on. Having to plot out your next move... You just don't really get that in ow2. Actually having to pay attention to cooldowns... I've played 26 total games of classic so far. I genuinely don't think I want to go back to ow2. It immediately sucks all fun out of the game Hot take: I hate mythic skins. They add so much clutter to a game that added so much clutter. I love juno... But if you get some form of ult domino... and you get a mythic orisa ult and a mythic reaper ult at the same time... you can't see a fucking thing that's going on. And then you add in the mythic weapons that add to even more of that shit...

[@Luke42652]

Overwatch Classic has been super popular. A few days in and my queues are literally instant, even late at night. If I choose "while you wait" and do death match, I can't even get one kill before the queue pops. Quick play 5v5 has never been that fast for me. How popular that game mode is should say something. I am seeing people from the old days return to play. Many people are saying even with day 1 classic having some warts (lack of QOL stuff), it is still more fun than 5v5. And I agree. I'm dropping 20-40 elims with Genji per game in classic, even with Mei freezing. I can duel a Roadhog with Genji. 5v5 I can't do that even on the best characters (Genji is unplayable outside of classic).

[@humblecanadian4206]

Queues are instant becuase its open q and every game has 4 to 5 dps per game wait for 222 queues will be 22 min and 2 seconds for everyone not on tank

[@tea.23]

I miss the old days where you can kill anyone with any hero!! and omg our boy Genji is back and looking good!

[@iilwy]

queue times are not representative of how popular a mode is

[@Nigels_Wrld]

I’m playing classic over 5v5

[@Roadhog3]

I still can't see how people like 5v5, it is clear that 6v6 will always be better

[@ultrahotwings9738]

As someone who played OW1, I'll admit that I was a little excited for 5v5. DPS felt useless at the end of 6v6. You had no impact on matches. If your team comp didn't synergize, you were gonna lose no matter what. There is a reason, even in OW2, we roll our eyes every time we see Hog. For the longest of time, if I saw a Hog as one of my two tanks, I was already in GG's mode. And as a tank player, if I picked Rein on King's Row and I saw a Hog as my other tank, I already knew it was gonna be an uphill battle. Tank synergies dictated matches. Games were lost or won by how good your main tank was and if your off tank didn't bother to work with them (ie: playing dva or zar with a Rein and instead played Hog or Ball or Winston), it was pretty much a guaranteed loss. It honestly was the reason I hated queueing for tank, even though I love playing it the most.

[@hkeister1980]

Not having an oppressive dva in my face 24/7 with unlimited dm feels so nice and how fast the tanks die feels so good. Plus love junk taking self dmg and both him and dva dying to their ults. Feels so good

[@Luke42652]

Hot take, even with Mercy's super resurrect ultimate, classic mode is 1000x more fun than 5v5 and even post-Brig/Baptiste 6v6 when sustain metas took hold of the game. I understand why they removed Mercy's resurrection ultimate and not saying they shouldn't have done it. But I am saying Double Shield/Goats and the super tanks in 5v5 are way worse and unfun to deal with than Mercy instantly brining her team back. I had so many moments playing classic where we would wipe the team, she would bring them back, and we would wipe them again anyway. Or they would turn it back around. That thrill of "oh crap, she brought them back" is just way more exciting and engaging than anything we have had with sustain metas where nothing dies and the high risk / high reward part of the game died. The fact that I can play Genji and be a threat to a Roadhog as long as I dodge the hook is just exciting and I feel like I have the agency to actually duel a tank that in later iterations of the game I just had no chance of doing. The 6v6 test needs to have this part of the game restored. This means abilities like Immortality Field and invulnerability frames from Suzu needs to be removed as they are very unhealthy for the game. As Sam said, the characters need to be more relative to each other, and they are in classic.

[@TheBigLime111]

you have stockholm syndrome lmfao

[@neilmallick20]

I actually think mercy's classic ult was genius. her res on a 30 second cooldown might arguably be more frustrating and brainless because it turns her into a res bot. her classic ult was way more risk/reward and game sense, should i res now or wait for more kills. if the enemy team made a play on your team but did not make a play on you as the mercy, that is YOUR skill to punish them for forgetting about you. her new ult is more braindead and the only concepts you have to work with are positioning and team stagger

[@Luke42652]

@@neilmallick20 It's funny you bring that up as I was thinking about that as well. People always complained about Mercy hiding, but with a game that is so positioning focused, it was an element of positioning. Enemy team had to find Mercy and get her first, and if they ignored her she had a chance to get the resurrect off. Her attempting it was risky, especially after they added a delay to it. (It wasn't instant later on like it was on day 1). I also loved Reapers "reaping" passive because if he collected the soul orbs I believe that person couldn't be resurrected. It made sense to give him the life steal, but reaping the souls was a very cool mechanic to prevent resurrections from happening.

[@kosmosfan01]

Gotta love how people don't understand that this mode wasn't put out for anything other than to let people see what the game was like at launch. It's not intended as proof for whether 6v6 was better or not. I mean are you gonna tell me that Lucio is in his best state here when he barely moves faster than the default speed and can't even do his signature wall climbing we've gotten used to 😂

[@bankoetsu879]

facts 100%

[@Peraliq]

soldier feels awful, way worse than the current season solider which is one of his worse versions. Zen also feels awful to play lol.

[@shrimpchris6580]

Yeah but have you considered how hilarious old speed boost is

[@kosmosfan01]

@@shrimpchris6580 I think I got whiplash when it was amp'd 😆

[@AimRobot]

To me it felt like they tried to sabotage 6v6 with the version they released. Mass Widow and Hanzo everywhere, like Blizzard is saying "See how bad OW1 was!"

[@Owen-jl3gj]

I agree. The no limits is annoying too. 4 bastions gets old after the 3rd game. That’s why they didn’t release late 2017 or 2018 ow

[@ghoulbuster1]

The point was that it's the release version of the game bro.

[@w1ndt]

tinfoil costs money. They made it classic because it was supposed to be classic ow1 from 2016

[@Adventist1997]

​@@w1ndt The way they did it, shows more of "see how good you have it now".

[@TR-ju5re]

​@@Adventist1997I mean it does show how bad the game was in 2016 specifically

[@schwolmart]

"fingers crossed" regarding getting more tank players seems everyone's solution

[@pog6909]

min 1 max 3 will permanently fix que times for 6v6 They need to remove roll choice and do min 1 max 3 and balance right which means destroy brigs effectiveness. Reduce her healing range but make it so that when she inspires a yellow wave bursts from her so it’s visible to all the range of her healing. Id prefer if brig put down the shield and picked up a gun

[@pog6909]

min 1 max 2 for 5v5 is the solution for that game and allows new metas and fast que times and flexibility

[@astralaegis6283]

As a tank main, I didn't even play Overwatch 2. I quit Overwatch 1 just before Echo released. But Overwatch Classic is bringing me back. I prefer being able to flex pick. Jumping from tank to support, and rarely even dps, as the game calls for it. Obviously, hero limits are needed. But I need that flexibility. And that's why I played Tank when role queue got implemented. I need to cover for my team. To support them, but also go on the offensive if necessary. I want to be that anchor. But having a second tank is crucial. Because one of you needs to be an anchor tank. Always. And I don't mind being an anchor tank, but sometimes, no one is handling the flankers or diving the sniper, and rather than yell at my dps, I'd rather handle that situation myself and unleash my team's potential when I get rid of the biggest threat. Two tanks, please. Always.

[@meduza93]

Oh fo sho but guess what. I used to be tank main in ow1 and I unistalled ow2 around 6months ago and I know for a fact that ow2 just lost tank players sooo...just a thought ;)

[@RageMage10138]

@@pog6909min 1 max 3 literally as the devs themselves said in the spilo interview is just derailed to the best way to play always being 312 or 213 Ie. 2-3 tanks, 2-3 supports and always 1 dps When dps is the most popular role having a format which literally makes playing only 1 dps the best method is not a solution lol. Thats how you kill your playerbase like ow1 did by making dps cosmetic for years There is no perfect solution. 5v5 is simply the best solution in regard to fixing queue times because it fits the role distribution more than 6v6. Queue times are also only 1 factor. Fun and impact is also another. If we wanted to make a game with the best queues possible we could just force a 1/3/2 format which even more closely matches the % of players in each role. Issues is you then have solo tank vs 3 dps. Either the tank would have to be even more of a giga tank than 5v5 or dps would need major nerfs to prevent having 3 destroying the game Face it. 5v5 is as good as it gets while keeping queues reasonable

[@willyum8543]

Big thing I noticed as genji is the actual ability to threaten a winston if you land shots at point blank. Almost impossible in 5v5

[@NotKaifyOW]

THANK YOU FOR SAYING SOMETHING. The mute system they have in the game is so insanely strong I got banned for saying "I love rocks!" I even have proof of it from blizzard email and "Howdy!"

[@AirLight1646]

Wow, they hate Venture even more than I thought

[@ghoulbuster1]

lmao what

[@Adventist1997]

​@@AirLight1646 She is infamous 😂

[@사-15]

Man, Overwatch classic was so fun. It was chaotic and unpolished, but I had more fun playing this than I have had in a long time playing the game in its current state. When you talked about how this iteration requires more strategy and team play, yes yes yes! That was my biggest takeaway from playing. I really miss that element of Overwatch. That's what made it so distinctive from other FPS games.

[@sakthi5277]

A part of me feels they baited us with the name "classic" and toss out DAY 1 gameplay. To make us feel 6v6 isn't good for the game. Its weird how they dropped this before they wana drop 6v6.

[@ultrahotwings9738]

It's possible that it was also a test to see how well the servers could handle the extra players before adding in all the effects of the new characters. I believe a dev blog a few months ago said they had to find a way to optimize the code so that gameplay would not stutter when adding another two characters and their abilities. Taking it all the way back to release might've sneakily been a test to see how well certain underperforming systems (cough cough Switch) could handle that much processing.

[@nikolasekulic673]

Damn sucks for them cause I LOVE IT!!!

[@chronosoul1837]

I think something important that happened in OW1 & didn't happen in Classic mode, is not being mentioned by anyone. Stat toxicity. The gold medal stats not existing in OW2 feels like it's something we have taken for granted. The stat toxicity wasn't just prevalent in OW1 Competitive mode, but also in Quick Play, and playing Classic mode for hours reminded me of that one aspect of OW1, as a core memory being unlocked.

[@4zoreal]

reverting only the count of tanks won't help that much. Classic is much better also because it has old hitboxes, old hp pools, old pace of the game, no broken free value dlc heroes, no burst heal, no aoe heal, no immortalities, no free escapes just be real, 80% of ow2 'inventions' need to go in order to fix the game, and then they also have to do something with clown tier matchmaker too

[@Adventist1997]

Reaper has his free fade to escape, Mercy is free value by existing with one button, Luceo has AOE healing, and Zen has immortality as his Ult... Those all would need to change to match what you said.

[@dovvy8612]

​@@Adventist1997 0/10 bait

[@Adventist1997]

@@dovvy8612 Huh? With comments like yours, I'm wondering if trolls now days are just bots. 😑

[@dovvy8612]

@@Adventist1997 assuming ur not joking: the difference between lucio AOE healing and bap/brig/moira AOE healing is that lucio has to choose whether he wants to heal or speed boost, bap has an aoe burst heal that instantly heals him and his team with literally 0 downside. Moira just spams orbs and holds left click for insane value, and brig just deals some damage every once in a while and gets an AOE healing effect larger than lucios. And there's a 0% chance you think zen being immortal (IN ULT) is the same thing as immortality field or suzu, same thing with reaper (mercy mass rez is dumb though i agree with that) point is: no one complains about lucio aoe healing or zen/reaper immor because they are balanced

[@Adventist1997]

@dovvy8612 I wasn't, and I equally dislike all of them. Well, I like Brig, so if they nerf her AOE and give her more armour packs, she'll be good. Edit: I forget to mention how I dislike Venture, but everyone seems to forget about them. 😂

[@smalom339]

Team 4 doesn’t know what to do to make tank playable and enjoyable in 5v5, they don’t know how to make tank fun, half of the tanks are design to focus the other tank, a lot of tanks counter others so hard they make them unplayable, they need to rework Mauga( no explanation needed), Orisa (literally a wall and shot the other tank), roadhog (hog is a toxic ability and doesn’t bring utility in any way to his team), MAYBE ram (he is just overkitted however he isn’t that bad) and Sigma (way to overkitted). Another thing is that this kinds of tanks gives u a lot of reward with no effort whatsoever, and they aren’t fun to play or play against, all the metas tanks ARENT FUN. All this not mentioning how they forced off tanks (like dva, zarya, ball) to become main tanks and it doesn’t work and they don’t feel good to play

[@xRichieeex]

had some games where we played 2-2-2 vs 2-2-2 and it was some of the best OW i played in years . I'm a tank player and really brought back that feeling of tank decision making thats been missing, And setting up combos with your duo just feels so much more rewarding . I don't want to get too invested into it tho cause I know it's only temporary, So im trying not to get too attached to it again lmao

[@Elizabeth68337]

Playing Bastion Winston and Rein in 6v6 has been the most fun I have had in Overwatch 2 I really hope they revert Bastion back to his OW1 kit.

[@mrkisukes]

As someone who started with OW2 and not the first, I can definitely say that, barring the obvious balance issues of the original build, 6v6 felt much better than 5v5. I would like to see the newer characters get implemented into the 6v6 format with necessary alterations to their kit and stats.

[@iknifetastic3351]

Samito shoutout to you for always keeping it real in the overwatch community, as I see more and more creators drop off from the game it really makes me appreciate those who will call out the flaws and who have a voice. And you also genuinely care about the game, you da man. That’s all, enough glazing.

[@dogs-game-too]

The "just mute and report them" argument would be a lot better if reporting actually did anything. I've experienced more uncalled for hateful language in Overwatch than just about anywhere. Been years since I got a "your report led to action" prompt.

[@humblecanadian4206]

Whats your endorsement rating cause i believe that credibility on reports is tied to your endorsement level

[@Adventist1997]

​@@humblecanadian4206 Mine is 5 and I tend to get the prompt the next day. I've also seen accounts I put in my pins just change to a generic OW icon and their name disappeared. So I see it as doing something.

[@decius5503]

Weird cuz it feels in higher ranks it takes 1 report for saying a swear word and your muted or banned.

[@willwunsche6940]

I agree, but nowadays it feels like my reports work so I have no complaints. I am fine with the filter/reporting works currently. Loved the more communication, teamwork, and fun in 6v6 though. 5v5 despite some of its advantages feels more lonely comparitively.

[@thebandit6886]

Overwatch Classic is by far, the most fun I've had with this game since 2020. That fact, is very sad and it makes me miss Overwatch 1 soooo much.

[@jrodd13]

I hope they bring back October 2020. Not because the game was balanced but because I wanna have an excuse to play DPS Doomfist again. I miss him so much.

[@TheTURKISHDELIGHT98]

Being able to 1v1 a tank on dps is just so fun to have back, like if I'm twice as good as the enemy tank I should be able to 1v1 them but in ow2 I reckon a diamond tank could kill a t500 dps 90%+ of the time

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

Exactly!!

[@humblecanadian4206]

This is not true unless the tank has healing to support them. Just hit your shots

[@bennettstokes195]

I’d also like to say Hanzo right now is pretty strong, and his dragon change makes his ult feel impactful

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

If you’re a hanzo god then Classic is a must ! Classic hanzo is Op

[@bennettstokes195]

@ he seemed okay but a little slow to flank much and outclasses by widow and tracer

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

@@bennettstokes195 bro widow and tracer have always been broken😆

[@bennettstokes195]

@ yes but current Hanzo is better than both of those, and widow is basically strictly better in classic, which has no hero limits

[@lordbored7006]

@@bennettstokes195 shes one of the most broken characters in 5v5 rn too. Widow needs a major rework in general

[@MMmagze]

7:36 totally agree I love having big combo ults. They were great because as the team doing them they feel fun and hype, and for the team receiving them yes it kinda sucks, but not nearly as bad because they know you used multiple ults to do that and they all die together so they are perfectly reset for next fight.They just dont happen in current overwatch because the tanks have so much sustain and the supports have get out of jail free cards like bap kiri and juno ult.

[@LVK33]

In my first few games I remembered you saying to watch how many elims I have per 1k dmg in the classic mode in your video about the announcement, 3 games in i literally said in all chat "holy shit i have 23 elims and only 6k dmg, Samito was fucking right man."

[@aceclop]

I love this so much, as hanzo I just feel like I can do so much more, things actually die, my damage matters and scatter is ridiculously fun. Tanks don't feel overpowered and there's not a million movement and escape abilities. Like even when I die, I feel like it's my fault and not due to a bunch of bs. Not having that leap tho is rough lol

[@ni9274]

what ? complaining about movement ?

[@aceclop]

@ni9274 Movement for me not for thee

[@erikrulez17]

I kind of like not having it personally. It makes me have to think about my positioning a little more.

[@Supermed]

You summed up the frustrations in your opening sentence...You spend half your gameplay trying to kill these mega tanks, then god forbid you find your self in a 1v1.

[@thewolfenknight37]

I don't expect every new patch to be the best patch ever, but I expect modern OW to be better than its 1.0 patch. Its a shame that it isn't.

[@gigapixelzone4046]

going back to 6v6 was like flipping the "I'm having fun" switch back on for me. tanks aren't bullet sponges anymore, having 6 players in the game makes it so you are not always hyper focused intensively. the TTK is super satisfying

[@CC-yq5bw]

Dude, this a proof of concept. They will NEVER start over from this location in code releases with an entirely different engine from 8 years ago to go back to 6v6. It might not even be possible so I wouldn't get too excited. They are not going to start over.

[@Wizardbeard91]

I never got to play overwatch 1 and just the couple of days of classic have me falling in love woth the game all over again yes ots unbalanced but its alot more fun and im a bit biased causebim a genji main and he doesnt feel useless in classic

[@PokaiJai7872]

We asked for 6v6, not V1 6v6. They set it up to fail, yet it was still a massive success.

[@uzifan88]

I was playing carta right and I got 27 skims with only 7200 damage. Other tanks actually died and I was punished for making stupid plays because I can’t double bubble myself. God it’s so good to be back

[@MaskyFalle]

On the note of communication and usage of voice chat, I think the biggest thing that made that fall to the wayside was the Ping system. We have a Ping for just about every shotcalling need so people just don’t feel like they NEED to join vc like they had to in order to communicate back in the day. It’s kind of like how socializing with strangers in MMOs became less common when they added dungeon queues. We had to communicate with words out of necessity, ask people if they want to run a dungeon and indulge in small talk while waiting for the party to fill. But with the queue system, you’re in and out. No talking necessary. The rise of modern conveniences give quality of life at the cost of socialization.

[@jacobbaartz7710]

Blizzard. just give Sam the steering wheel so we can get over this unending cope

[@Adventist1997]

Remember, Freelo said you have rose-tinted glasses, and you're a flat earther for wanting 6v6.

[@jacobbaartz7710]

@Adventist1997 I agree. I want blizz to give Sam the steering wheel so that he can't infinitely defend with "oh, well it wasn't done right", as we watch his flat earth crumble from the edges 5v5 isn't perfect, but it solves for a lot: - Tank stacking - More players can more proactively engage on angles - Support is far less healbotty - The hope that your 2nd tank covers your ass with a decent pick The 6v6 train looks a lot like: - 2nd tank to have fun with (circumstantial) - High skill ceiling for Pro players - "hanzo one tap is a 5v5 exclusive thing" - DPS Doomfist cope - "Season 9 patch is 5v5 exclusive" - "passives are 5v5 exclusive" - "character identities can only be destroyed in service of 5v5" Note that "6v6 problems are balance issues, 5v5 problems are format issues" OTP Lucio, middling ranks. TL;DR freedo's flat earther call was fairly appropriate imo. Let me know where I'm incorrect or maybe attack my character like a typical 6v6er

[@gametinker1570]

@@jacobbaartz7710 I don't know what tank stacking is but as far as the other few: players can engage on angles more- because characters don't die as easily less healbotty- because healing doesn't require as much effort hope- yea you hope you don't get bodied by the entire enemy team

[@jacobbaartz7710]

@gametinker1570 Tank stacking being well paired tanks far outperformed other pairings and or are able to completely mitigate downtime. Characters being more self sustaining helps, but I think the biggest proponent is that one less tank, leaving less space contested by default. We saw this before sustain creep even occurred on release of 5v5. Do we want healing to be more effortful? Players don't opt for unfun gameplay, by all means have a limit to what healing can provide, but don't apply it at the expense of fun gameplay. I also might add damage has become easier with one less tank. "Hope not get bodied by enemy team" I'd need more help on what this means

[@gametinker1570]

@@jacobbaartz7710 in lower ranks the tanks have more sway on the match but playing the wrong tank into certain lineups can be extremely tough and make it feel like you're not able to play at all I'm not sure requiring effort to heal would necessitate it to be less fun/engaging

[@kolejames6998]

10:00 straight facts about the chat banning system, it is ridiculous and out of hand, i have screen shots of support tickets that i requested saying ive been banned for breaking the code of conduct by saying "BAAAAHHHHHHHH","sym why didnt you TP", and many other things of the sort. im afriad to type in chat or talk in game unless its saying GG because im afraid im gonna get hit with the month ban.

[@reddeadcobra8295]

@ 7:15 "calm down sam it isnt ranked" Sam's playing like it's the Overwatch World Cup 😂. Gotta admire the passion though!

[@FragMaster93]

The thing that I'm noticing most from this is the difference in teamwork just from the heroes and 6v6. Lucio an Dva are not great characters on their own like today but with 222 they are great in assisting the team. Modern Lucio does wall ride tricks dives the backline and assassinates, old lucio speeds the team through a choke or sends that rein and reaper at the enemy at mach 3 so they can do their work, same with Dva the matrix is meant for chokes, when the shield is down or to protect a hooked player or the supports if they get dived. 5v5 heroes feel like a bunch independent characters who are built to take any 1v1 rather than have synergy with your team.

[@Peraliq]

you make no sense because one of the worse metas was dva + juno due to the synergy.

[@FragMaster93]

@ that’s because they added synergy after balancing so every character had no flaws so you get a giga buffed hero, ow1 balanced around those characters flaws by having the team comp make up for it. In one the synergy brings the team up to par while the other make one hero stand above the others, all because people wanted agency and not rely on the team, now when that does happen it feels busted.

[@Larke_]

I think bizarrely even tho it takes way longer for you to kill a single person, fights resolve way faster, which means its basically impossible for you to do tetra-kill or above, and maan it was(and is in classic) for you to be able to actually feel that you won a fight almost by yourself, nothing beats that feeling.

[@jingeralea]

Without the massive sustain creep that happened, and without aoe healers, I can have like 22 kills with around 5k damage. 5k damage in Overwatch 2 is like a handful of kills. Things actually die now and you actually get PUNISHED for making mistakes. Some of my friends don't fuck with 6v6 classic rn because of the 1.0 patch overwatch balancing and janky movement, even though they prefer 6v6. But to me, Overwatch Classic is an example of how potentially good Overwatch 2 can be if it goes back to 6v6 and balances it well. I'm also excited for the potential that the min 1 max 3 queue system can bring to comp variety, while still having the control of a structured comp for people who don't 5 stack. and fixing queue times in the process.

[@hkeister1980]

Also doing 5k dmg but getting 25+ kills is satisfying. You called everything straight up !

[@Xokzu]

I want the current OW2 fluidity with the 6v6 format. I'm genuinely surprised the devs are doing this. They're gonna be in for a rude awakening when they stop these tests and we're stuck with 5v5 for a while again.

[@DeLdEl789]

I don’t get why they can’t just ad a 6v6 mode with the current balance now, we know it would be broken but I don’t trust the devs to do it, at least let the community get a regular test and not all of these nonsense tests.

[@PhantomedShazamTheOriginal]

I would prefer seasonal swap of 6v6 and 5v5. I hate 5v5, but I don't wanna split the game more where you have people playing 6v6 or 5v5 in the same season. It fucks everything up

[@davantemadden8186]

Both statistically and scientifically it is demonstrated multiple tests with multiple variable changes excluding the constant variable produces better results >not saying your perspective is invalid just that gathering data has to be far more thorough than one test that half your base might have missed

[@DeLdEl789]

@@davantemadden8186 your right but I wish they would “start” with the regular 6v6 and not some bad open queue role limits version. It just feels like they are pretending to listen while trying to inject their own ideas again. For example the test where a solo player in a role will be super buffed is just an extremely bad idea that doesn’t need to be tested to be told it’s not the 6v6 we have all been asking for. I’m fine with multiple tests but not starting with the regular one is a poor choice. With marvel rivals releasing within the time of these tests it seems overwatch doesn’t care about getting real data as they will have lost a lot of players to marvel rivals. Maybe not a permanent loss but disgruntled overwatch players like myself are tired with all the gaslighting from Team 4. If they wanted to get real numbers the tests should have been out this season. They won’t get true data just from people at least trying marvel rivals; a free game alternative to overwatch with all the characters unlocked from the start.

[@delluminatis]

@@PhantomedShazamTheOriginal result: people who want to play 6v6 will only play when it is 6v6 and not play at all during 5v5, and vice versa

[@Archy_The-Wizard]

Talking about the "6 dps" comp. I've now won 3 out of 3 games with 5dps vs 2-2-2 by going lucio and doing almost nothing but heal. With the stupidly high range of Lucio's aura, these games were basically 5dps with the healing passive vs 2-2-2 and it worked just fine. In my mind, that shows that the 6dps comp wouldn't be that big of an issue if the healing passive was in the game.

[@Weightsss]

With the way the heroes play now and giving tanks less health, AND with how fleshed out the game has came over the years, 6v6 with 2-2-2 will be amazing.

[@regulareric8759]

it was almost as if I never had quit the game when it was changed to 5v5. I enjoy every second.

[@kevh9610]

I actually didn't mind the auto-regeneration being gone. I feel like it actually made my team realise the importance more of their positioning because they wouldnt survive if they dived too far and made it not logical for a support to go there just to heal them, and also the importance of their supports and helping them when in trouble because they need that healing. I actually felt like my role was support that was impactful and not an off-DPS character.

[@ianemory5800]

I think as a whole bringing back more risk is a good idea. Like not being able to stop my charge as Rein felt way more engaging than of i could just stop at any time.

[@MaskyFalle]

I can definitely agree the tank experience is better in 6v6 but from my experience with about 150+ games of classic is that still no one wants to play tank. An overwhelming majority of my solo queue games have been 5 DPS + 1 Mercy. Makes me worried about the queue time problem returning once the honeymoon phase is over. If anything, the mode I’m most excited to try is the “Min 1 Max 3” style of 6v6

[@MystyJ]

Honestly Sam I love overwatch classic. I have been with k rewatch since the retribution mission and I love og overwatch it was so fun and memorable. For the past few years with overwatch 2 I have seen people straight up give up on this game and just call it another failed attempt at a tf2 clone and season 14 I was actually starting to lose faith in blizzard but you and flats kept me going seen wether the game would be good or bad and I hope they keep classic overwatch a permanent gamemode. I have had the most fun in overwatch 2 every since it released and it feels good to know that if I position well with zen and a Winston jumps me that I have the chance to win a 1v1 against Winston instead of oh he’s barely hurt. Genji and hanzo finally feel like characters and no kiri every game ruining my death blossoms or shatters. Like classic actually makes it to where every role matters and everyone actually has to think and play the game instead of hide behind a corner and heal or hold a button get a kill. Like it feels fantastic and I hope that the future looks as bright as this game mode.

[@Tsunder623]

Ironically, Overwatch Classic has actually made me give up on Overwatch entirely, because it has showed me bright and clear that 6v6 will not save this game. 6v6 or not, the healing creep, braindead tools and terrible kit designs will not go away, and overwatch classic has reminded me how much better the game was because of it. Don't get me wrong, I think 6v6 will be better for ow2, but it unfortunately will not save it; nothing will.

[@vodkastudios4170]

Sounds like you want it to fail.

[@humblecanadian4206]

If you nerf healing 25 percent and nerf tank health bars 25 percent and revert the season 9 changes i think 5v5 will work the truth is no one wants to play tank unless they are a player lookong for quick games

[@BenG420]

I felt like playing overwatch again i couldnt believe it

[@lostmind1029]

I’ve never played the first overwatch but I love 6v6 classic because I was finally to play tank without thinking of dragging my team down.

[@AirLight1646]

I’m going to miss Mercy when this ends. Her whole character is so dependent on positioning and it’s so much fun to me. Resurrect as an ultimate feels like an actual ultimate ability (looking at you, spectator mode Valkyrie) and makes it so she can’t rez every kill (ignoring the fact that you can build it super fast because everyone can in this mode) and actually has to earn it. Also, Resurrect not making you invincible makes it a risky ability to use, as if you have bad positioning, you will die when you use it, partially nullifying the benefits of reviving allies. Combined with no absurd movement with GA, she also needs to be much more careful with her positioning rather than trying to dodge everything. She feels better to go against in my opinion. Mercy being a main healer again also feels great to play. I love bouncing between players and healing everyone rather than sticking with one person the whole match. Despite her healing output being high, people can still kill through it since damage is high, so it’s not oppressive. At the same time, her damage boost isn’t useless, so it’s not like you are only healing. This mode made me remember why I loved Mercy so much when I first started playing, and why I don’t like her now. I will miss her when this event ends and I hope that there will be more opportunities later to play this version of her.

[@ash_yt0]

I went to the local bakery the other day and picked up a baguette. And as I bit into that crusty bread and the crumbs fell to the floor, that was all the proof I needed to determine that 5v5 is a totally failed system and the giga buffed tank absolutely does NOT belong in a game like Overwatch. It totally flattens the gameplay variety and renders the game a shallow experience devoid of any meaningful player agency.

[@JollyJester]

I noticed that the map knowledge of the map knowing where the health packs were was very helpful

[@alex968t9]

I actually like most of the "clunky" part. Not being able to cancel abilities makes them a much more tactical and requires thought while also making the enemy know when something will happen. The best examples would be the reaper wraith and the hog vape

[@swiftyplayzs]

idk i actually enjoyed the game again playing ow classic. I haven’t had this much fun playing this game in a while.

[@RustickHD]

I wanna role out as Doomfist, with my hamster….. 6v6 brawling it out. One day.

[@XOX361]

classic was super fun bc I didn't play in 2016, great video's Sam⬆

[@Musoko7]

OW Classic has been such a fantastic experience, im so glad I can mass rez again on Mercy

[@Twilight.Princess]

I really want to off tank Dva again. Tank is so fun in this mode. I haven’t enjoyed it since OW2 released

[@DRAKLOR_44]

I’m a very new player to OW so I’ve only seen 5v5, I main Ashe and I completely agree if a tank rushes me, I either use coach gun to get away or die as there’s no way I’m killing a deva, junker queen or the guy with the mini guns… they all seem to have massive hp regain abilities and often healers and tanks do way more than dps so I’d love to see this 6v6 mode more often with the other characters added, I think it would be more interesting, varied and maybe less frustrating.

[@MarshPlays]

Having the mindset of "just report and block" can actually be extremely harmful. You should not have to endure racism/sexism and any other form of hate speech and think that reporting and blocking them after doesn't still negatively affect someone. Some of the things I heard said back in Overwatch 1 days are beyond abhorrent and the way punishments work now is a positive change.

[@Real_Nutella]

I like ow classic but it needs to not be no limits

[@MarshPlays]

It's going to remove no limits in the next day or two OW devs said

[@antisenpai3683]

Honestly this is probably the longest I’ve kept playing OW in a long time. Every time previously I’d get an itch to play, I’d only have a few rounds then lose interest and put it back down for months. I hope the 6v6 tests go well cause I’d definitely keep it in my rotation then.

[@kieranyt8484]

I noticed that reinhardt's gameplay is alot more slower than i remember coming back to ow classic

[@ultrahotwings9738]

Honestly, I'm 95% excited for seeing the return of 6v6. I'm not really too entrenched on either side of the debate since I'm not a super serious player anymore, but if Blizzard is willing to try something to improve the gameplay experience, I'm all for it. With that said, that 5% of not excitement stems from the fact for the last year or two of Overwatch, I started playing more tank and less DPS. As a mostly solo queue player, nothing was more frustrating than my other tank auto locking Hog and doing nothing but Flank Hog and constantly dying while I'm a Rein trying to hold a front in a 1v2 against their Rein/Zar. I've never heard Samito say it in any video I've seen so far (or any 6v6 defender, for that matter), let alone offer a solution, but if we want to talk about "options", 6v6 had its own restrictions because of tank synergies.. and if we want to talk about agency, let me tell you. When you're a DPS and your tanks go Hog/Zar and you see Rein/DVa on the other team, you ALREADY know it's an L and there's nothing you can do about that. If we can solve the issue of tank synergy being the primary, if not solitary, reason for a team's win or loss like it was in OW1, I will turn that 95% into 100%.

[@ElveruhMMD]

once 6v6 comes back, im comming back, i miss my duo monkey friend

[@emacliftsalot]

Bro the chat ban system is Karen cancel culture. They should only ban people for vhementing speech not swearing or venting frustration. Perfect take Samitto

[@-cactus.raven-]

They don’t even tell you the reason for what got you banned or comm banned. It’s insane

[@SuperScraper123]

I talk so much smack and don’t get banned. So what are you guys saying to get banned lol 😂

[@Peraliq]

@@SuperScraper123 same i talk smack on like 4 accounts and none have been banned

[@Lups-fk5qr]

The main problem, for the most part, is: people who played ow1 will have a blast playing 6v6, but people who started by playing 5v5 hated to play 6v6. So the community is divided, all cuz that 5v5 was introduced in the first place

[@edgymoon5298]

The ow classic Qs are instant too wich I have never had in the lifetime of OW2 just shows how many people love it and miss it

[@NextGen-he2eo]

My god genji felt so refreshing genuinely was in love hearing quintuple kill with blade

[@iTzJay0]

id love to see if queue times would still been an issue if the original 6v6 was free to play cause i dont think that they would have been as bad

[@ziggy2metalx720]

It’s crazy how there’s several people that think 6v6 in classic is bad because mercy can mass Rez. Why can’t they realize that’s a mercy specific problem and that mass Rez would be so much worse in 5v5.

[@aynojs]

There's a reason I picked up open queue recently. Role queue is just miserable & I have more freedom of control over a match. Swapping from tank to support & dps if someone else falls behind basically "doing it myself" which in turn has shown that I AM better than what I've felt has just been mostly a me problem. Even better in 2-1-2 because I get insane value when my tank peels with me where as in role queue I just don't see it much & everyone just scapegoats

[@rorykeefe8954]

10:58 I didn’t realize that the word “beep” was that bad of a word… I’d like to apologize to anyone I’ve said it around without realizing!

[@ApeEscapeLover]

Dude, playing winston in overwatch classic feels like the way winston was always meant to be played. Even without the right click. The damage feels impactful, goomba stomp feels impactful, and there's no immortality or lw pull to just invalidate a whole setup. He feels fun to play again. Not that he's not impactful in the regular game or anything, but I honestly can't say I'll want to play him again in any mode outside of this one.

[@CoversWithCare]

I had this one game where I was hanzo and I kept waiting for one of my 2 zars to grav so I could dragon.. I eventually just dragoned and one of the zars threw the most perfect grav and I got 4. Through the entire game she had the best synergy with me and it just felt so gas and I'm loving this mode.

[@wizeller5040]

I will not come back to overwatch until they make it 6v6, get old Hanzo back and the old Bastion back.

[@hoolly]

i give you an example for 14 days suspension one of the best things cause somebody was toxic and i answered "maybe try to work on your mental" - thats a reason for 14 days suspension btw XD and i asked blizz in the support ticket how should i communicate with them - they literally just said - if i annoy them more with tickets they will perma ban me XD

[@o0_VanYsH_0o]

Console went silent ever since they removed LFG. Playstation 4 got left in the dark, we didn't have Discord integration. We used that to get groups together, make friends. When Blizzard took that away, we were helpless till PS5 came out. Don't let Blizzard say "LFG wasn't used" IT MIGHT NOT HAVE ON PC, BUT IN CONSOLE OVERWATCH IT WAS PEAK.