Owner review of Suzuki Burgman 200 Volume 1

This is a personal review of my new Suzuki Burgman 200 motor scooter
About the MPG display, see Volume 3 for an explanation of how it works.
I learned later that it actually does not have a neutral or even a transmission. It is always in drive and has only one gear, not 2 or 3 or 4. When it feels like it is shifting between neutral and drive, it is actually automatically engaging and disengaging the clutch. But the problem is the same, which would be fixed by having a clutch disabler switch and/or a clutch override so you could manually pull the clutch in and out as needed when you don't want it to automatically operate the clutch.

[@milovanpuric318]

Sport bike rider here. Nice and very useful scooter for everyday, and also if needed can handle some twisties , and short highway ride for sure. Nice storage , and very reliable engine. I had my first maxi scooter before 5 years , and it was Aprilia Atlantic 500cc. Great bike , except electronics. So being a sport bike rider, with knowledge of scooters trough my riding experience, i give to this one a go for everyone who wants useful town scooter with possibility to have weekend back roads rides up to 100 miles without problem . In this category i also want to recommend Kymco Xciting 250cc, Honda pantheon 150, Honda foresight 250, Aprilia Atlantic 200. All good scooters with reliable engines , and good riding experience. Safe roads Jerry ! Cheers

[@josephgeorgeejr7039]

I always pit my disc brake lock on heavier rear wheel, also if you get some lighter clutch springs would solve you higher rpm take offs

[@mrmoon1482]

I own one of these and a Yamaha xmax, love them both,

[@MrChip1wa]

I realize they're different tools, but which one do you like better?

[@genegoodwin8925]

Jerry, to have to rev your scooter clear to 4000rpm just to get it going seems excessive. Has the CVT drive belt ever been changed. The earlier Burgman 200's had a narrow belt while the newer Burgman 200's had a wider belt. This could make all the difference in the world. The CVT belt runs on the side of the belt, not top or bottom. With the proper CVT drive belt or a new one it would not "shift" into nutrual until you were almost stopped. Therefore the width of the belt is very important. If the belt has never been changed, I would look into a new belt for it. There are also upgades you can buy for the 200. The entire CVT kit is quite expensise, but you can but the weights for the variator and the washers that go behind the spring and make a huge difference. Just thought I would share this. Ride safe and enjoy every journey.

[@DisabilityGC]

When all is said & done, the 200 does an amazing job, around town, freeway ride, the twisties, storage (esp. with a 52 litre top box).

[@MultiMustacheMan]

Hi Jerry, just a little tip with the rotor lock...use it on the rear rotor! Reason being is that the front you can lock the steering but the rear wheel is still able to roll, a bad guy can just lift the front of the bike and roll it away but if you have the rear locked he cant. So bad guy will have to lift the rear up and try to roll the bike away in circles. Hope that helps

[@deanpatrick2118]

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[@devonmauricio4714]

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[@deanpatrick2118]

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[@deanpatrick2118]

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[@devonmauricio4714]

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[@ThomasParmelee]

Very informative-- I had never heard anyone else address the way the 200 shifts down early into "neutral." Thanks

[@AVeryBritishBiker]

It doesn’t exactly shift into anything it’s a belt driven cv transmission so the clutch doesn’t engage until it’s spun up to a certain speed. 4000 rpm is also not an unusual take off rpm (with factory tuned transmission). With that said if you wanted it to engage at a lower rpm you can have the clutch springs swapped out and put different weight rollers in the variator to adjust the power delivery and take off characteristics. Best thing to do is find a mechanic who knows about scooter transmission tuning to sort it for you

[@gec343]

Nice review. Jerry. I just bought a Burgman 200 a few days ago, mainly as a companion for my Burgman Executive.

[@johnd9031]

I have the 2018 Burgman 200 and don’t have to rev the engine much to get going and when slowing down it goes into neutral about 5 mph. Maybe you need an adjustment to the cvt.

[@laurasetepenre8917]

I am looking to get my first scooter and am considering this one. Your video is really helpful! I think this scooter is the way I will go. :)

[@dank9288639]

did you get it?

[@adrianleeds3468]

Thanks for making this vid, very informative. Enjoy your travels 😀

[@mariecoffman5848]

Sportland in Champaign, Il has a brand new Burgman 650 Executive in their showroom if you are interested. It sounds like this is an excellent example of what it is, a 200 CC scooter. But it does not have all the bells and whistles of a bigger scooter or motorcycle.

[@pauls466]

It's a CVT not a automatic . plus you could change to heavier rollers in the cvt so it takes of at a lower rpm

[@timothypeace3133]

Change that. Comes as a 400 also... I love it ❤️❤️❤️

[@bobtheunplayer]

Don't worry about the high RPMs to get going. Those little engines have to rev way up to make any power.

[@100BlaQRaok.el_1]

Dude, you chose a heck of a hard beat👑🔥

[@maxtraveler8160]

I know I'm coming in late but you can put an after market clutch that will engage at lower rpm. And yes you are right that coasting at no throttle the engine rpm is too low to engage the clutch. Rough crowd BTW Good luck

[@sharano53]

Красиво у вас, американцы. Красивый пед, красивый двор, красивый дом. А я живу в общем дворе, соседи загадили его, набросали свалку, причём рядом с нами, и семь лет обещают всё вывезти! Пока что куча растёт. И да, у меня старенький YP250.

[@mrmoon7768]

You can fit lighter clutch springs so it engages earlier,

[@dennisclark8766]

Nice video as usual. Dennis from Happy Campers Escondido.

[@mechtechtools838]

It's a CVT transmission, no real neutral or drive. Get the variator rollers to you liking, should help a bit with your issues

[@mariecoffman5848]

Just picked up my 200 yesterday. I have always had scoots that you had to press the brake to start so thats no biggie But I think I see what Jerry is talking about on the shifting into neutral. Its not really a problem for me but it took some getting used to for cornering - you need some forward movement for cornering and this just totally cuts the forward movement when the throttle is decreased. Really just something to get used to.

[@renenutet2122]

excuse me can you tell me from where can buy your lock systemon a front wheel

[@king1ny]

hi buddy where is the fusebox on 2016 burgman 200? thanks.

[@AravindTeki]

Nice information

[@Davidipac]

Where can I buy the wheel lock

[@erniejohnson8727]

This is what I’m looking at too.

[@fingerhorn4]

There is no neutral. It is a continuous transmission with a belt wrapped round a transmission hub with moveable rollers which are "held" in a small radius by a powerful spring to create a low gear. The other end of the belt wraps round a fixed hub attached to the rear wheel. As your speed increases, centrepetal force overcomes the spring and the rollers expand outwards to create a larger radius and therefore a "higher" continuously changing gear ratio. It feels like there is a "neutral" when you roll off the power but there isn't one. This is the rollers moving back to a smaller radius/lower gear and temporarily disengaged by an automatic "clutch". Because quite high rpm is the optimum for initial acceleration, you do need to twist quite a lot to get the engine to overcome inertia. As you pass 30-40 mph the CVT becomes a more and more "direct" drive, unless you really want to accelerate hard. This is similar to all CVT transmission scooters. The 200cc on the Burgman is a great little engine, capable of cruising at quite high speeds. The price you pay for this is that initial acceleration will require high rpm - just above the maximum torque - to overcome inertia, so as to give you plenty of acceleration power.

[@Personlpp]

Nice video. I'm looking at a 400 to add to my toy garage. These things are mechanically bulletproof...Suzuki knows thy scooterdom.

[@dank9288639]

Hey man, was wondering if you can do short jaunts on the freeway? Talking 20miles or so. Thanks, also how has it held up?

[@jerrydixon]

I have gone up to a 60 mile trip at 65 mph

[@algesbrek5695]

The motor has no power till 3 or 4000 rpm Now the rack ...the weight it is rated for is the weight you can add too it, now the receiver..hitch say is rated for 500 lbs.. Then that would include the rack and the bike,...I had a 400 and loved it ...I got 80 mpg + with my 400 cc

[@MrZman0004]

Hi there! Nice job on the videos. I watched all 3 Burgman 200 vlogs. How much did you get the 2014 in 2016? I am looking for one as well and I am in California too :) What was the scooter price and the out-the-door price? Thanks!

[@MrZman0004]

$4400 out the door?

[@AshwinPulla]

Do you still have scooter? How do you like it so far? Did you trade to xmax? Why xmax you mentioned in other comments? Thanks

[@lornaj1966]

Do you think the throttle could be adjusted so that it would not have to rev so high to get it going?

[@lornaj1966]

Thanks.

[@jeffreyreicher5241]

I don’t see a parking brake as on the burgman 400 & 650. Isn’t there a danger of it rolling when parked on a hill? Thanks for the great 3 part review.

[@roamereasy9737]

You can use a velcro belt to tighten the left hand brake as parking brake.

[@mechanicbrain]

Hey man when you drive on engine going down hill its ISU stops giving fuel to injectors and you burn zero fuel. So you are wrong about it.

[@GarysnewYT]

Hey There Jerry, Can you please do a video about your Yamaha XMAX 300cc scooter ??

[@jerrydixon]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXO7YpKOiLqtZsUsi=lE0nqTM3gaMesPAj

[@RRRRefuelRideRace]

Great machine. Do you still have it?

[@jerrydixon]

No, traded it in for a Yamaha XMAX 300, it's 50% stronger

[@RRRRefuelRideRace]

@@jerrydixon I see. Great. I test rode some some scooters and I would like to try also this one. Can check tem when have time.

[@timothypeace3133]

Better foot space for rider and passenger than my kawasaki sc 300 j.. But shame suzuki iis only 200 cc..

[@zerozilchnada5373]

Comes in a 400 and 650 also

[@thenov1944]

Two Larger Engines : 400 cc & 650 cc ! !

[@djacksonafter700]

I have an idea. Put the scooter in self-driving mode, when it comes back see if the fuel economy improves.

[@djacksonafter700]

A Dynamo meter can probably help with assessing fuel economy. Check in your local area for Dyno testing.

[@djacksonafter700]

Consider switching to all electric. No more fuel, no more oil. Sell the car and scooter, then buy this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3nRY2t5Zrh8e8k

[@scooterninja-hotmail]

Your belt is out of adjustment

[@cajunjamis9001]

do you need a M/lic. ?

[@mikecook8246]

No, I have one, thanks. Why are you selling yours?

[@thenov1944]

yes for this size scooter .

[@iivaridark6850]

Some of the large scooters are incredibly heavy! Goes somehow against the principle...

[@dannybumpkins556]

Not so silly Jerry ...its an insurance/lawyer thing. There will always be a person who revs the throttle while off the bike...there is no neutral on a CV transmission. Its always engaged. You may have the illusion (tricky engineers) that it is in "neutral" but in fact, it just means the RPM have not permitted the clutch-flywheel to engage. Unless...you can't start it on either stand, so the point is moot. There are so many lighter, smaller, cheaper motorcycles out there, why would you buy something that annoys you so much? ;-) Stay safe! happy trails! Dave

[@1950harleycharley]

There may be many lighter and cheaper scooters out there, but they're made in China and for the most part they are not worth taking to the dump....JUNK

[@pauld.b7129]

@@1950harleycharley China scooters are actually great value if you don't need a shop to maintain it. Some are cheap junk, most are poorly assembled, but ive fixed a few and the hearts of them are really just an engine like any other. If you have the right tools to test electrics and the knowlege of what to look for, they are simple machines and easy to fix. 99% are just clones of Honda's.

[@michaelhord]

I hate the gas tank key . It is a fight every time.

[@jerrydixon]

Yeah, I hope they have fixed that on new units

[@inkjob12]

I do not understand some of your complaints !!! Have you ever had a scooter before? Neutral in a scooter...never heard of it...its always in gear. Coasting in a scooter...not really possible...in ANY scooter. with the complaints you are having...you need a motorcycle...not a scooter

[@mojazka]

It's a CVT as in the 650; the 200 works just like the 650.

[@TiagoRuivo]

it doesnt shift. It has no gears! There is no sutch thing as neutal or automatic... Automatic means it changes gears for you so if it doesnt has gears its impossible to classify it as auto. What it does is changing the ratios!!!! And If you put heavier rolers it will ingage earlier... Like 3k rpm ou maybe less...

[@TiagoRuivo]

Expensive????? It will cost uou less than 20 dollars and you can do it yourself at home with basic tools. Its liike changing a tire... And it will make a big difference. ABut you will loose torque. Beware of that. Also changing the cluth for something more sporty will also improve ingagment but its way more expensive.

[@rickiejacobs5910]

The way you describe what you use it for, a 125cc schooler E- bike would work better for you.

[@jerrydixon]

Well, I have taken it on many trips as much as 100 miles away, so I don't want a range and highway limitation

[@rickiejacobs5910]

@@jerrydixon most RVers just run around the campground or run into a nearby town is why I thought it would be better options. I have a 2006 Burgman 400 it only weighs about 60 ibs more than your 200. It was 432 wet compared to 2007 400’s and up that are 50 lbs heavier. I just be checking out smaller scooters as a second one for my wife. The newer 150 -200 class scooters have come a long way I understand in the past few years. Even E-bikes are better. Anyway just a suggestion. Have fun.

[@bopeep7080]

Sounds like you have the wrong size belt.

[@brs8710]

You telling as cons are definitely for safety reasons and must things for example starting any vehicle in this planet you have to hold the brake for sure safety reason I dont know any vehicle can push start switch work without the brake also going down hill without neutral position again for your safety even with auto transmission cars are the same they go with proper gear in down hill and they have to.Other than that take off with 4000 rpm is the good sign of engineering that prevent clutch wearing at idle and low rpms so its provide long clutch life so on…

[@alphacapo]

They pick them up and put them in there vans. They don't care if the lock is on the wheel. Lol

[@SirNarax]

That is more of a myth than anything. If it happens it is kind of a freak incident. Why would you load a bike which possibly has a tracker into a slow moving van?

[@sophianoriega3118]

It is very clear this guy dose not know anything about a burgman scooter com back in a few weeks then tell us what you think of the scooter

[@jerrydixon]

It was my first scooter and this video was made after just a few weeks. I wore it out and traded in for a Yamaha XMAX.

[@GarysnewYT]

@@jerrydixon What do you like and dislike about the Yamaha XMax 300cc ??

[@besafe5969]

tt

[@fingerhorn4]

It's a great scooter with excellent performance for a 200 cc. However there is one major flaw. The front of the seat is low but the floorboards where you rest your feet, and the raised running board at the front, are too high. This means that unless you have quite short legs there is a likelyhood that you knees are going to be higher than your hips, which is very uncomfortable. There are only two solutions: one is for Suzuki to completely redesign the scooter so the foot boards are lower, or to get rid of the back of the seat which prevents you from getting far enough back to be able to stretch your legs and have room to get your knees at least parallel with your hips. But Suzuki built the back of the seat that way in order to fit helmets in the back of the luggage space. DISASTROUS design! Have a look at every single video review of the 200, and you'll see that EVERYONE who tests it has their knees higher than their hips. Bummer. The rest of the scooter is beautifully made and has ABS as standard. However in Europe it is grossly overpriced and Yamaha doesn't seem to care that this prevents them selling more units - and consequently it has been a very poor seller in Europe, with literally tens of units being sold. Not even hundreds.

[@davidjohns.3065]

fingerhorn4 i have the 125 burgman, the reason for the high floorboards is the battery is located beneath the right side one.

[@1966johnnywayne]

After about three videos on the Burgman 200, this seat and footboard relationship is something that i was noticing. I have a 2018 Honda PCX150, and I absolutely love the way I can "stretch out", and at 5' 8" my knees being below my hips helps to keep my back nice and straight without fatiguing. The only things that I really find lacking on my PCX is the weak rear suspension, which often bottoms out and the 110kph (65mph) top speed.

[@wheater5]

Why would Yamaha care? This is a Suzuki…. 🤔

[@thenov1944]

@@1966johnnywayne What do you expect for a 150 ? 85 MPH ? ?🤔

[@Englishman_in_Taipei]

Never coast on a motorcycle. You do that you crash a motorcycle. Furthermore, it’s risky in a car because you have no engine braking. It’s an automatic fail if you coast during your British car test too.

[@reywhitney5449]

what the fuck ? why u didn't buy a regular motorcycle then, instead of buying a scooter…….lmo !!

[@Personlpp]

+rey whitney Sit on one of these things and you will know. Its like riding around on an damn easy chair that can fit 4 bags of groceries while getting 70 miles per gallon.

[@sabrybrucekhan4171]

Makes perfect sense Jerry. I am seriously thinking of buying one too. I have checked them out from the local suzuki dealership here in Seychelles. So far only good reviews.