Owning and Collecting the Sega Saturn 2019

[@16-bitmegapowered2]

The Saturn is truly awesome. I only got one last year, I had been collecting all the others system and the Saturn was the last one I brought as I believed at first that the system wasn't that good. Man I was wrong. It become my favourite. Panzer dragoon saga really stands out to me. Course I had to use pseudo saturn to play it. I also got myself a victor saturn as well and a couple of other models since then. To anyone looking to get into the Saturn I suggest spending the money and getting a really nice unit (the best units are the later mk1 revision) and just use a pseudo saturn cartridge to play the games. Also the Saturn has a really robust laser. New jvc laser can be brought for it (replaced a few myself also they are cheap) and the motor can always be replaced. In fact a brought a few saturn off eBay all with laser problems and they all work now with a little care.

[@terskatti4994]

are you a wizard?

[@WillMGucci]

Sounds like witchcraft 😉

[@voteDC]

I'm lucky enough to still have the Saturn I bought new so many years ago at Toys R Us when the console launched. It was the first system I bought with my own money. I do need to resolder the start button wires on my Sega Stunner though to be able to play the Virtua Cop games properly again. Oddly enough the reason I've kept it is not for the games, as great as they are, but because it has the best CD player interface I've ever used.

[@juanalvarezjr.403]

Sega should do a Sega Saturn mini and Dreamcast Mini that will be awesome 😍

[@SegaDream131]

I would hope so, but not unless its done correctly....

[@vidlink]

They should and could but it wouldn't be cheap. Saturn emulation requires much beefer hardware than even Dreamcast emulation.

[@tmntchad]

I would gladly pay for a Saturn and or Dreamcast mini. Even if it's more expensive than the other mini's.

[@personavisceration371]

They haven't even recognized the Dreamcast's anniversary, just a bunch of Genesis mini ads.

[@CanaldoZenny]

@@personavisceration371 The Sega Facebook page did, and they made a live stream playing some DC games.

[@ico128]

Remember the good old days, when Panzer Dragoon Saga was ONLY a 150 bucks on ebay?

[@darthwisner47]

I sold mine years ago and got $190 for it. Wish I still had it now. ☹️

[@personavisceration371]

I bought mine new for $39 at EB Games, I was gonna sell it a year later after I beat it again for $99 and I thought that was a great price. I sold it last year on Ebay for $850 when I needed the $. Like most things in life, it's all about the timing. I wish I picked up Pulseman back in the day when everyone with imports was selling it for $19, or Solatorobo when Gamestop was clearancing it out for $14.95. Win some, lose some.

[@DOYLETWAT]

The game sucks

[@personavisceration371]

@@DOYLETWAT Well that's just like your opinion, man.

[@Lifesizemortal]

@@DOYLETWAT i kinda agree. It would serve it well to have a remaster. The textures are so dull. There's a fantastic game underneath all the muck

[@tuguldurbaatar]

Best Sega console! Soo many good memories, had it through end of secondary school, college and until Uni. If Sega ever release Saturn mini I’m buying 3.

[@thereeven]

16:35 I used to dream about that black Dreamcast to the point I began planning to paint mine, since it was impossible to get my hands on one. By the way, I used to be a Nintendo guy, but always loved games, no matter the platform. But I clearly remember how I used to feel like the Saturn games looked different in a way I couldn't explain, and I still remember dreaming about Nights. That game really did hit my spot back then. The Saturn was truly a unique system.

[@silentfanatic]

Wow, those repros are gorgeous! Seriously tempted...

[@IanThunderbolt]

The Saturn has always been a such a standout console for me for some reason, it was your videos when you started two years ago that finally convinced me to take the plunge, I’ve been a happy Saturn owner for 2 and a half years now and I want to thank you so much

[@retrosoul8770]

SLX I gotta admit man you have expanded my mind on the quality of the Sega Saturn library, I've known it was at least "good", but honestly it may just be a top tier system after all. Excellent content as usual, I decided right away when I started heavily collecting back in 2015 that I was never gonna go all in on collecting Saturn but was determined to at least experience the library. As of today I own a Model 1 American system, but only Guardian Heroes and Knights, I'd like most of the rest of the future collection to be reproductions.

[@PTminatoPT]

I'm a Nintendo fan at heart, but ironically my biggest collection is the Japanese saturn,thanks to Sega LordX. 2 consoles, virtua stick, etc. 2D heaven specially for shmups and fighters.

[@SegaLordX]

Glad I could help. Good to see you found a use for my ramblings.

[@voteDC]

I still have my Sega Saturn, I remember buying it brand new from ToysRus years ago. I still have my VirtuaCop Stunner lightgun too. Now it gets used as my music CD player, I can't get enough of the music player on the Saturn and that SpaceShip easter egg.

[@leandrocalmon4185]

Dragon Force is soooooo good, a game ahead of it's time. I can't recommend enough!

[@briantaylorcloe7725]

My favorite game of all-time! Easily put in over a thousand hours on that!!

[@ricardodpraca]

It was my first console. Got Shining Force 3 and Dragon Force for 30€ back in the day. It's just an amazing console and I love to see SLX videos about it.

[@michaelanderson9792]

The Saturn was a landmark console that got a bad rep not so this is pure golden gaming

[@MrCalverino]

94/95 is my favorite era of gaming ALL AROUND✌🏾

[@NiGHTS1980]

Legend has it that he who owns the Saturn shall inherit the world.

[@notturok7841]

Sega had so many games I never heard of and that were just phenomenal tests to what the system could actually do. I am still amazed by the creativity of them.

[@kougashuko8896]

It´s been only 3 weeks since i found UR channel but man i freaking love the content you bring to us! LONG LIVE TO OUR SEGA SATURN`S !!!!!

[@michaelanderson9792]

I thought I knew alot about the Saturn having owned one but this has me scratching my head where was I didn't know about half the games you showed

[@ShinSynZero]

An awesome vid man. I was a little late to the Saturn party in late '97 (it was the first console I bought w/my own money), but managed to build a respectable library of domestic and import games. The one I really miss getting was Saturn Bomberman, I played my friend's to death but never grabbed my own...doh! Anyways, I still own my orignal console and I'm on the hunt for a few things to round out my library. Keep putting out great vids 👍🏿

[@frankspanoudis7944]

I watch all your videos as well and it only brings me back to my childhood days when I was mad about sega

[@gaupau]

Love the Sega Saturn. Collecting imports has opened up an entirely new world to me. I have not regretted it. Although disc rot is often mentioned, i've never experienced it yet with my saturn games. Eventually I know that time will claim these games, but for the time I have them, i will cherish and enjoy them. Great video sega lord x.

[@voteDC]

Copy them to your PC. I've done that with all my Saturn games. That way if the disc dies I'll still be able to play them thanks to emulation.

[@Supersonicspyro]

Plus you can also get reproductions of them, just need a backups cartridge or chip too play them

[@black-kawa]

As talking of repro games, here in brazil people organized themselves to make these games because of how so pissed they were about the insane Sega Saturn Prices, being a Panzer Dragoon more than 500 dolars, the repro they are making costs little more than 10 dollars, with exact replicas of CD cases, manuals, and even promotional posters for a bonus to the first buyers. And the repro plays exact like the originals, except of course they dont have the CD security labels, so you need a way to play copies, like modchips or the like

[@affansonicfan]

I can't wait to play the english port of Grandia 1 for the Saturn! I heard that game is amazing!

[@99prbs]

Thanks for keeping it real and not sugarcoating it. Wish I had the time and money but I take solace in knowing people like you and the others on your channel keep everything in good hands.

[@thomashampel761]

I owned a N64 and I still own and like those games I played back then, but the Saturn, which I have only started to play on last year, has so much more appeal to me, it's crazy. I love this console!

[@IanThunderbolt]

With things like disc rot and game prices in general I honestly just went with a Pseudo-Saturn cartridge and using burnt games, you can get an action replay cartridge for 35 bucks and it works great, once modded you just pop the disc in the Saturn and it will play any burnt game from an region, it also works a 1/4 MB cart for the import games that supported it

[@marakarthegreat]

will i still be able to use the memory card functionality?

[@marakarthegreat]

@Rap Lawyer they sell those on etsy

[@tomenza]

This is why I think that classic consoles never should have stopped being produced and that the console producers should have offered a distribution and production model that allowed for continuous development and exploration of the consoles' potential as well as continuously being able to produce according to consumer demand. The 32X Sega/Mega CD combo comes to mind as criminally unexplored.

[@moandaindesigns]

The saturn is still one of my Fave systems. It and the TG-16 are my underdog darlings. I still play mine to this day. I have almost every game you mentioned in this video and you are 100% correct. The saturn was a powerhouse that developers did not how to use properly. Sadly I have not seen a single Saturn game in used game stores in about 3 years in my entire state. I have even asked store employees to call or email me if a Saturn game comes in. There is definitely a cost of ownership associated with the Saturn. I have already replaced the optical pickups on my 2 Saturns but now I need to start recapping the systems. I have to say that I am happy I started collecting the Saturn in the early 2000's. the last game I bought for my Sega Saturn was the Working Designs Sega Ages. That was the last Saturn game I needed to complete my Working Designs collection, and yes it cost me a pretty penny. Great video as always SLX. Keep up the good work!

[@PopeTheRevXXVIII]

Disc rot is not common but it happens on Saturn. I got burned on a Salamander collection. Sometimes what appears to be discrot is a defect that doesn't affect the game. Saturn has good data correction. Don't be afraid of Repros.

[@nsm0220]

you sure about that im sacred that will lose all the games to it

[@PopeTheRevXXVIII]

@@nsm0220 i have over 40 Saturn games and only one is affected. Discrot is caused by manufacturing defects.

[@ThatOldSchoolMagic]

nsm0220 I have 33 Saturn games and 7 have some evidence of it happening. A few only have one or two spots where light goes through but none of them have it really bad. I have seen some discs on ebay where its all over the disc.

[@absoluteclownworld]

Agreed. Any small pin holes on some discs were there when new. I have some Wii U and ps3 games with "pin holes" but it's just the front label not the data layer in the disc.

[@PopeTheRevXXVIII]

@@absoluteclownworld Same I had a copy of Ultra Street Fighter IV with a pinhole that was just fine. I've seen real disc rot. It's not a pinhole, it's full on oxidation of the data layer It only affected boss music in Salamander 2.

[@michaelkrupa5910]

It’s worth mentioning that the Saturn version of Resident Evil had an awesome ‘Battle Mode’ after completing the game, that can not be found on the PS version. Definitely worth owning.

[@mole28]

Cool video! The Megadrive was avaiable at every toystore over here, but the Saturn was hardly supported. Luckily i found a gamestore 1 hour away by car of which the owner was a big Sega fan (as was i), so most of my Saturn games are from the time they were brandnew! I really hope that the Polymega will be the system what they say it will be!

[@ThatOldSchoolMagic]

One thing i’d want to tell to someone new that wants to collect for the saturn. Is to think about how you really want go about this because it can be done a variety of ways depending on your wallet. If you want to go an average route. •Get yourself a working Saturn. •Make sure its been tested, working and try it out yourself for a while because anything can happen after its been shipped. •Get yourself a Psuedo Saturn Kai Cartridge (Usually a Red Cartridge that that has a switch at the top. There are multiple versions so see which fits your needs) •Get a Genesis Component with the Saturn Adapter (HDRetrovision/CastlemaniaGames)and then get a Retrotink2X Or Get a Good Quality RGB Scart Cable (RetroAccess) get a decent-good quality Upscaler. “Watch My Life in gaming’s vid on the saturn to know which Scart cable is for you.” •Controllers you can either find on ebay or from Retrobit. Lastly the games •Personally i’d say go straight to Etsy and order the games from there. They’re repros but it’s better of you just want to straight away buy the games and pay a decent price for them. A large amount of games unfortunately are starting to get discrot and others are pretty expensive. Buying the repros is like the middle ground. There are other way you can do this. •Buy the real games •get a composite or s-video cable •if you aim to play on CRT •get an action replay 4M+

[@TWKIC]

I appreciate that he acknowledges that collecting the original hardware is a daunting task and may not be worth the money and is not against emulation and "piracy". Its not like any of the original developers or game studios get any money if you buy an overpriced copy of Burning Rangers.

[@Thor-Orion]

I got that game for my eighth birthday. I loved it. The stage with the dolphin really stuck with me. Haha.

[@darthwisner47]

Really love watching your videos. Your's is my favorite channel. Always informative and entertaining. 👍

[@EKlicKKlacK3]

Very well put. I started getting into the Saturn a few years ago. Being patient and watching games pop up on Ebay is the best bet over going right into the buy it now. I like to bring it to my local barcade sometimes, just so others can play it. I actually brought Cotton 2 one time for a Shmup tournament.

[@KTJohnsonkidThunder]

As far as multiplatform games go, the media and gaming journalists considered the Saturn versions the weakest is because they were showing their bias towards the PS1 in the vast majority of cases. I've played MSH vs. SF on PS1 and I HATED the FREAKING LOAD TIMES on that version. I did hear the Saturn version DOES NOT have load times at all...and I might have to track it down. Duke Nukem 64 on Nintendo 64 is obviously a censored port of DN3D. It's sad that I missed out on the Sega Saturn and I agree that collecting for it is a pain. With every console I own, I'm JUST a casual collector. Admittedly for me if I want to get the experience of really expensive titles for the platform, I have to resort to getting a repro. And you're right about looking for Saturn games at a local Mom & Pop retro store in my area. I finally got into the Sega Saturn in 2017 and I've heavily wanted to get into that console for a long time. Most times, I get Saturn games, mainly Japanese titles from a seller on FB and he usually sell them at reasonable prices. Bulk Slash and that Cotton game looks cool.

[@GN-cj5we]

You rule! Thank you for all your awesome work ! Fellow Sega head and I’ve been following your videos man A+. I had fire pro wrestling six man scramble which had an awesome story mode not available on the psx. Anarchy in the nippon, decathlete ,last Bronx and ultimate mk3 were also phenomenal on Saturn! Sad they never made better racing games sega rally was the best ! DOA was way more impressive than the psx version. Although glitchy Fighters Mega Mix with my hori stick was my vf3 arcade trainer. Never really mastered akira’s dragon lance combo . And sports wise World Series 98 was so realistic and playable for me of than any other baseball game of that generation. Keep up the good work !

[@skykid4000]

SEGA Lord x does it again! Awesome video. Love it, just what I like to watch. Saturn centric videos and what's available. By far my favourite consol of all time. Nothing does 2D shoot'em'ups like the Saturn.

[@Ziimbiian]

I bought my Sega Saturn due to many people praising it as underated, best on 2D Gaming I personally got interested by his story, its amazing how Sega handled this system. So i give it a try. Man, it really is the best console out there, i have a Playstation collection but the Saturn really gets me playing all day, Daytona USA is amazing, Quake is impressive (i finished it yesteday), Need for Speed plays WAY Better on Saturn than PS1, Saturn Bomberman gets on our nerves when playing multiplayer. The best thing? Pseudo Saturn Kai. which saves a lot of money Everyone must get their hands on a Sega Saturn, its an amazing experience but be careful; some systems have their Laser dried up, therefore backups cannot be loaded. So burn a game, have PseudoSaturn Kai and test your future Saturn with that! if it doesnt read or takes a ton of time to load the game; do not buy it. Best Advice, i tested, literally, 9 Sega Saturns; 1 was a success but couldnt afford it, then an American one had its Internal Memory destroyed. Finally, got myself an American one from another seller. Great channel Sega Lord, you won a subscriber, i really like your views on the Saturn and it really makes me love this system even more!

[@Ziimbiian]

Also, in Argentina, these things are non existant. Most owners overprice them. And they arent 220V so have yourself a 220-110V converter @ 50-100W

[@SerdceDanko]

Actually, lasers are very cheap and easy to replace, got 10 lasers from China by myself :)

[@peterdwyer6118]

Mr Lord I cannot get enough of your content at the moment. Top quality stuff bro.

[@robertdanker6193]

Fantastic video!!! So many great tips here!!! Let there be no doubt SEGA LORD X IS YOUR SEGA SATURN AUTHORITY!!!!!

[@EtherBoo]

One of my favorite things about you and your channel is that you don't stick your nose up at emulation and the enhancements it can provide. Too many KZbinrs talk about emulation like it's a sin. Thanks for the great content as always.

[@SegaLordX]

I’ve always felt that more options are good for everyone. Just because it doesn’t fit my needs doesn’t mean someone else can’t enjoy it.

[@theunkemptvaper6866]

Great Saturn video yet again. Thanks for really introducing me to the Sega Saturn it's becoming one of my favorite consoles.

[@kr1me2000]

I remember when the Saturn + 3 games + 2 controllers was 50 CDN at costco. This is the reason we bought one and we had alot of fun with it as kids.

[@GenerationalGamer]

This came at the perfect time. My son has been bugging me to buy a Saturn and bunch of games. As a pre-double digit kid, it did not phase him. It did answer all the questions I had, the big one being the price.

[@StarlinkNova]

I'm new to collecting for Saturn myself. That's why I invested in a restored and modified Saturn that can play both backups and imports. Great way to enjoy the best games without breaking the bank.

[@htxtexans]

I recently bought a Japanese saturn with xmen vs street fighter and marvel vs street fighter. I'm not a collector but I'm having a blast with the Saturn. Playing with my kids. It's too expensive to collect for the Saturn.

[@jforce109]

I recently bought Gex for the thing. I like to get Saturn games and systems for under $100, which is what I paid for it back in 2018-2018. I even have an Action Replay which I will use for Japanese games that I will obtain in the future, like the Saturn port of Space Harrier. My favorite game on there happens to be Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3. My other favorite is Daytona USA Champion Circuit Edition. My mother bought it for me as a birthday gift a couple of years before Covid 19.

[@MaidenHell1977]

I love my Saturn. I honestly can't remember when I picked it up... It must have been between 2000 and 2003. A high school friend had the foresight to collect a lot of top notch games for it based on what he read in Gamefan magazine who were big supporters of the Saturn if I remember correctly. So I put to use my new CD burner on my 10gig Pentium III PC to work and made copies of all his originals including Dragon Force, Fighets Megamix, Cotton Boomerang, Radiant Silvergun, Guardian Heroes and Panzer Dragoon Saga. I also bought the few good ones I could find in the wild back then as well and scored CIBs of Shinobi X, Night Warriors and Nights. Picked up Japanese Imports as well over the years such as Macross, Vampire Saviour, Twin Bee Collection and some KOF titles. Still works likes a charm. I think it's value will forever rise as its just to uncommon of a system these days, I have people coming over all the time in their mid to late 20s always shocked when they see it no knowing what it is, hahaha

[@Riz2336]

I think the coolest thing with Saturn is the exclusives, which in most cases are really damn good games. As far as collecting original copies I gave up on it after a while. I'd be broke right now if I'd kept going so I decided to get a big cd holder and make back ups of every game I could find on the net for download, the much cheaper route

[@DrGamelove]

Don’t know how I missed this great video. So I know Mr. Bones doesn’t have the best gameplay, it’s all over the place, but the soundtrack and story are so amazing it’s always been one of the Saturn games that stuck with me the most and impressed my friends at the time.

[@acerimmer2000]

Great video as always. Nice to see an old Sega fan talking about the old days.

[@abu269]

With some multi platform titles, I remember some titles had exclusive content on the Saturn versions such as a Battle Mode in Resident Evil and extra characters in Street Fighter Alpha games. I pulled out my old Saturn couple of months ago and it's still a great console with great titles!

[@bigkeith41]

Great video bro I love the Saturn until the day I die 👍🏿❤️

[@marakarthegreat]

same here

[@puma0085]

The Saturn has become one my favourite consoles. Unfortunately I did own a Saturn until January 2018. Back in the old days I knew that the Saturn existed but I was not impressed by it because the German magazines were not reporting in a favorable way of the Sega console, so I went with the N64 and later with the PS1. I really wish had not listened to the gaming mags because the Saturn is a awesome machine. Now I like it as much as the first Plasystation. The only drawback for using the Saturn in 2019 is that some of the games are really expensive to get. I have a Japanese Saturn, so it is a bit easier because some japanese games are much cheaper than their NTSC or Pal Counterparts. the only problem is that some Story driven games are not playable without solid japanse skills. Eventually I will get some Repro games as well to enjoy some of the more Story driven games like Policenauts, Deep Fear and some other titles.

[@DreamcastQ]

I literally had a nightmare about disc rot once! I probably need to go test my old games again :\ Really great information in this video, taking notes haha

[@SegaLordX]

I wouldn’t worry about disc rot too much, it doesn’t happen often. It’s just when it does happen, it really sucks.

[@stephenclements6158]

Great video! You showed me more games I hadn't heard of but now want! I was lucky enough to buy most every Saturn item I wanted as it came out, and I'm glad I did, because I'd go broke trying it today.

[@Owazrim]

Picked up a Saturn last year at a flea market for a good price. I have slowly been adding U.S. and Japanese games as I find them for a good deal. I am not worried about cases so that helps. Recently picked up Dark Savior, Gun Griffin, and Grid Runner.

[@ShindlerReal]

Your footage makes all these games look really tempting

[@davy_K]

Great advice about cost here. No way I could justify paying for the Saturn games I now own that I bought back in the late 90s - early 00s. Also there are now easy-to-install mods for replacing the CD drive with a solid state solution which can help an awful lot!!

[@rodrigoaraya7553]

I started last year....awesome console, but you gotta go for the Japanese saturn, cheap games and lots of exclusive...I think is one of my favorite consoles, I totally recommend it.....great video as always

[@StevieDrawStuff]

So glad I got PDS, Burning Rangers, Drangonforce and so many other hard to find games when they were released in the stores.

[@voteDC]

Holy shit they go for mad money. I knew PDS sold for silly money but I have Burning Rangers and Dragon Force and the prices for them on eBay are insane.

[@SilverAxe13]

We need a Saturn mini! Hopefully SEGA’s Genesis mini sells well and they go for it. The Saturn and Dreamcast both need a second chance. It’s long overdue.

[@SerdceDanko]

They already replied that it wouldn't happen. The cheap hardware they use for these mini-consoles is not powerful enough for Saturn emulation.

[@vannlocz90]

@@SerdceDanko It can be done if they really want to. They could do it for at least half of the cost now in 2020.

[@TechWithSean]

Great video man, super in-depth 👍

[@justapickedminfan]

I'm really glad I live in Japan and know Japanese... I picked up a Saturn for around 5000 yen, and Sega Rally and both Nights games for another 1500. Then I found a ram memory cartridge in box at a used game store for about 800 yen!

[@thepickinpreacher]

im finally making videos on hunting for saturn games!! Glad to see these other videos

[@BomKosh1992]

14:50 About SSF: While it's true that the site that hosts it is gone, Shima (the guy behind the emulator) has a Twitter account, and he posts preview versions of SSF on the occasion. Just drop by "FessX" on Twitter, and surely enough, you'll find the latest versions of SSF on there. Just to be quick about it: twitter.com/FessX And just to echo what everyone else is saying, a Pseudo-Saturn cart is all you'll need for your Saturn if you just want to play the games instead of having to collect them.

[@bonesjackson81]

Had one in 1995. Had my guts ripped out by Sega in 1998. Sold it all cause that's what you did to get something else back then. Bought a Saturn again in 2011. Went full penetration on the North American glorious big box releases. So much I didn't know about when I had it in the 90s. Started getting some Japanese releases over the past few years. Price is still the biggest deterrent however. Hope people stop caring about it again so prices could come down. Just played Thunderforce 5 actually to test new soundbar. Saturn is fantastic. I knew it then and know it now. 😁

[@dariusq8894]

My favorite Saturn exclusive is Cyberbots: Full Metal Warriors. Yes, you can play this via emulation or some arcade compilations but the Saturn had extra playable characters which in a fighting game is a huge deal. My main is Princess Devliotte's Super-8 and for that reason alone I only play the Saturn port.

[@_.Alucard._]

In my opinion the Saturn was the best console produced by SEGA and it had dozens of very interesting games. Too bad it doesn't have a legacy fan base just like the Dreamcast.

[@absoluteclownworld]

Between all my disc games and all my friends disc games we have zero games with disc rot... I think it's pretty rare and only applies to poorly stored games or burned discs.

I did not have a Saturn back in the day, I've decided to collect for it in 2019. I wanted to love the Saturn, but I'm hating it now. My decision to start a collection was made looking at prices for the most common games (Daytona, Virtua Fighter, etc etc etc), but as soon as I went further in my collection, I'm almost regreting it. Many of the greater games are 120+ USD (Guardian Heroes, Albert Odyssey, Three Dirty Dwarves, etc). Simply. Absolutely. Ridiculous. To a point it can barely make any sense to start a collection now unless you've won the lottery. A great system ruined by sellers greed.

[@battleonfan1]

I just started collecting for the saturn about a month ago when I won an auction for Shining Force 3. It was a bit pricey but I knew that going into it. I loved the SF series on the genesis and this would be cool to have. But I grew attached to the system. I had to have more. Right now I own 9 games for the system totalling at around 650 dollars spent. That's an average of 72 dollars per game. At some point you have to ask an existential question "What is a game? A piece of art? A plaything?". And at that point I started to go insane so I'm taking a break from it. I still have a few more games on the list but I know the exact feeling. As long as there are people willing to buy at a high price, it will stay at a high price.

[@drunkensailor112]

You can easily save 6000-8000 euros a year on an average job. Just don't get kids and buy games

[@RetroSegaDev]

Big fan of your channel! I recently became a Saturn owner and have started making a list of games I want to own, so this video was really handy! 🙂

[@SegaLordX]

Good to hear. I was hoping folks new to Saturn would like it.

[@darthwisner47]

Which games are you looking at getting?

[@cybernitemusic]

I think the cost of games are really only for those who are nostalgic and had one when they were younger. For me, an ODE (the Rhea) was the answer and I love it.

[@dougiehits1938]

Keep up the good work, love your content 🤟

[@Darkbroccoli]

I remember begging friends to see panzer dragoon, virtua fighter 2, bug, clockwork knight and so much more like dragon force and virtual hydlide. These games where just so much better than any boring PlayStation launch game. But people are lame and PlayStation goes on

[@ciredecgellar8232]

nope i'm agree with you the Saturn launch games line up was far away better than the PS1 one. I decided to buy my Saturn after testing both consoles in a video game store. Of course, at first, like everybody, i was impressed by games like Wipeout or Ridge Racer and Toshinden, but after playing at Panzer Dragoon, Daytona or VF i knew as a gamer that the Saturn games were more deep and playables.

[@haydengittins2836]

It's things like price, availabbility and disc rot that make me glad i managed to score a pheobe/rhea for my saturn, gdemu for my Dreamcast and just yesterday a Mega SD for the megadrive. I still buy games, and sometimes repo's, when i can get them for a good price because I love the physical look of some of them.

[@msamiullah001]

Hyper Duel is my fav shooter of all time !!!!

[@sidearmsalpha]

Yup, looks even better on Saturn than the arcade with the extra version on there.

[@msamiullah001]

@@sidearmsalpha I totally agree, sound is higher quality as well !!

[@gunplaojisan7557]

I was very active back in 99-04 way back when DeliSoba was considered expensive at $250-300. And I was fortunate enough to visit Japan every year since 89. So I bought any that grabbed my eyes at 500yen a pop. I’m sure that Hyper Duel I bought was bit pricey at 3500 yen. :)

[@micksroversmg558]

Love the Saturn me was a great console! Hovered up most the games 99 2001 when all Sega stuff was getting sold off cheap!

[@ironkong26]

Collecting for the Saturn is a rich man's hobby good grief.

[@SegaLordX]

Stick with the Japanese games and you can get a fairly large library of good games and hardware for a decent price.

[@gcforreal]

If you think Saturn collecting is expensive try neo Geo collecting

[@mike-yn3mn]

When I was a kid I picked up a second hand Saturn for dirt cheap in summer 1998! One of the benefits by late 98 was the Saturn was dead in the UK and games retailers were practically giving Saturn software away! I managed to get Quake, Burning Rangers and Deep Fear all new for about £40!

[@hikaruk.981]

@@SegaLordX If you have the money to afford Japanese classes and live near a place that offers them.

[@mscottjohnson3424]

I consider myself very lucky that I happen to live in Taiwan. The Saturns and games available here are all Japanese, but the Saturn was not super popular here, perhaps because the locals can't read Japanese. Whatever the reason, there are lots of games for very low prices. Nothing incredibly rare, but the good common games are easy to find for cheap. I was able to easily pick up games like Knights into Dreams, Panzer Dragoon 1 and 2, Saturn Bomberman, Vampire Savior, Street Fighter Collection, Samurai Shodown 3, King of Fighters 95 and 96, Virtua Fighter 2, Fighting Vipers, Fighters Mega Mix, Dead or Alive, Daytona USA, Sega Rally Championship, and Hang On GP 95, all for less than $10 each, some for just $2 or $3 each. I also found a new, unopened Saturn steering wheel controller at a retro store for just around $20. Living in Taiwan, I've been able to build my Saturn collection to around 15 or so solid games for not much money.

[@irritationnation6122]

Thankfully, I live in Japan, meaning that my local thrift stores around Akihabara is literally flooded with Saturn Games

[@arcadeslum5882]

condition is king though.

[@Vlad-bu3mr]

Great Vid as always, what I do is buy the ones i really want, cd-r's for the rest then buy them when I see a good deal....no game is worth some of the prices they go for but we only have ourselves to blame if no one paid then they would not cost that much :(

[@LockeTheCole]

The worst part about disc rot when it comes to the Saturn is that Sega/third parties were often very cheap when it came to printing the disc. Instead of putting an entire layer of paint on the top for the label, they often put dotted printing on the top to avoid having to buy more than a shade or two of color (because it costs more to print with multiple colors) and the disc itself was often unprotected because of it. Also the 'cool factor' of seeing the silver on the top was a culprit for this too, leaving those parts much less protected from the elements or human error.

[@S3lph131]

I don't know about anyone else.. but I enjoy researching and looking up peoples collections for systems.. To myself the japanese saturn game scene is not frustrating, but fun.. To check oddities, such as Pandemonium being rebuilt as Magic Hopper in Japan.. and finding out that a Saturn shooter on the PsP .. Costs more on the PsP ( Salamander), because there's less accessible physical shmups on the psp.. see fun :D

[@jedstuhr]

there are soooooo many games I wish I had kept back then ::cough cough:: Panzer Dragoon Saga.. but luckily, there are SOME games I still managed to keep... MOSTLY the fighting games, imported or not

[@MrMekmek29]

I only collect the 2d arcade fighting games ported on the saturn because they are awesome almost a perfect copy like marvel vs street fighter and xmen vs street fighter... Such great games

[@houstonhelicoptertours1006]

Glad I finished collecting for the Saturn in early 2004 when it was still kinda cheap-ish. I own a Japanese full set. Collecting for it now seems like a pain, with these absolutely ridiculous prices. Same thing stopped me from getting a full Japanese PS1 set.

[@greenEYEDdj]

Great video. Dropping some poly mega info. I'm keeping an eye on that.

[@spaceharrier3671]

Superb video! All hail Sega Lord X!!

[@andersongadelhafontoura4346]

For a long time, capcom's D&D games (shadow over mystara and tower of doom) was exclusive to the Saturn. I remember only to see again theses games on PS3....

[@frankynakamoto2308]

When I bought my first set of japanese games, was Burning Rangers, Dragon Ball Z Legends, King of Fighters 97, and XMen vs Street Fighters, Holy shit!!! I thought, up to this day Saturn keeps being my Favorite console of all time, I loved Burning Rangers regardless of the language barrier, I managed to beat that game, awesome soundtrack, and Dragon Ball Z legends was so incredible I loved it.... They also never made another King Of Fighters as impressive as the 97, was hoping for 98 and 99 on Saturn, sadly they never arrived. Sega Saturn was amazing.. I wished they had made Captain America and the Avengers would been awesome for the Saturn, also a second Burning Rangers, Streets of Rage, a new Command & Conquer, KOF98,99 & Doom2.

[@TapfererBus]

thank you for making this video. really. I wrote a comment on the last video, that i was looking forward owning a Saturn. But i also need to look at the harsh reality. Some games are really expensive in contrast to their ps1 versions and some exclusive games are ridiculously expensive. Now, i think i will still buy a Saturn, but the library wont be that big as i imagined. Still, as i said, thank you for making this Guide. Also, sorry if my english is not that great.

[@SegaLordX]

Buy what you can of the originals and buy reproductions of what you can't afford. There's no shame in it, my friend.

[@TapfererBus]

@@SegaLordX In that case, can you recommend a website which sells Reproduction games?

[@SegaLordX]

Many people on etsy.com will ship all over the world.

[@TapfererBus]

@@SegaLordX ok, thanks for the advice.

[@TapfererBus]

but are these reproductions NTSC or PAL versions? If they are the NTSC Versions, then i will need a Action Replay Plus Cartidge.

[@JD69Han]

Purchased a modded Saturn with the Phoebe chip installed, the Saturn is my first Sega console and so far I’m loving it!! Playing through shining force holy Ark at the moment and it’s incredible. Was 980 for a cleaned Saturn console that included all of the ram carts, controllers and Saturn Library pre-installed on a micro sd. That in addition to purchasing the racing controller separately and controllers in better condition (ocd about controllers being perfect) and the s-video cord from hd-retro vision seems to be the ultimate way to experience the console. If anyone is interested the EBay seller was “Catv246”. And you can find cheaper Saturn controllers on sites like Samuriabuyer, since the Saturn was way more popular in Japan. Purchased a brand new racing wheel for around 70 after shipping and fees. Now all I need is the virtual stick ss controller and I’ll be set!!

[@blondejon1]

On behalf of the saturn junkyard, thank you for the shout out

[@michaelanderson9792]

Someday soon I hope Sega will make a saturn mini or collection series on next gen consoles then like the TurboGrafx 16 it will shine again

[@xemption]

Yes collecting now days can be very expensive and difficult for sure. Luckily I bought all my us games and most of my rare imports back in 07 when prices were better and moms were doing yard sales for their college kids at the time and that is where i got most of my collection, between that and eBay. I got my Panzer Dragoon Saga around this time for $110, now prices have multiplied by 6. As you mentioned those deals are no longer to be had....ebay is really the only option for most. I don't blame anyone who buys Saturn reproductions as it is a good alternative as it very closely resembles the real thing and even has the manual and disc art. I admit in order to complete those few missing in my collection I ordered a handful of these reproductions and the quality is outstanding and due to the very short supply its not a bad option even though purists will turn there nose up at this but not everyone makes 80,000 a year and can spend that type of money so I get it. Great informative video as always sega lord.

[@coreymcmanus4749]

Alot of the polygonal games on saturn look much better than anything on ps1 in my opinion. I absolutely love the saturn. It my 2nd favorate system of all time right behind the dreamcast. Ill never forget 9/9/99,i remember it vividly and with extreme fondness.

[@marakarthegreat]

in the right developers hands the saturn could be more powerful than the playstation. just look at duke nukem 3d

[@coreymcmanus4749]

@@marakarthegreat i used to play the crap out of duke nukem 3d on the saturn.

[@sweetcreator7288]

I've played the Genesis and Dreamcast, but never the Saturn. I need to get one!