Owning this stove could land you in jail

[@swagmanandy]

They got us through the shitstorm that was the Falklands, so sod'em.

[@RoughWalkers]

🫡🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💂‍♀️🇬🇧🗡

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@gordonlawrence1448]

some think the gel stoves are better. Let's face it neither can be used for cooking. Personally I use a primus like they use on high ascent climbs with Isopropanol because it's capable of cooking and the fuel is way cheaper even if the stove is eye wateringly expensive.

[@terencejay8845]

We had an orienteering exercise that had an overnight wild camp, plus using a hexi stove - Tommy Cooker - to make a meal and brew tea. Very efficient both to carry and use.

[@dilwyn1]

Well said

[@_leyrd_.]

So there's people being stabbed all over the place and they're actually bothered about people using what they deem to be the wrong camping equipment. This country really is in trouble.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@MR.TB67]

Probably down to shareholders of the new products 🤭

[@bengreen171]

yeah, you're right - they've taken literally every policeman off the streets and are doing a house to house search right at this minute to find out who's got illegal fuel - because we all know the government is only capable of doing one thing at a time. Don't be so silly.

[@petetimbrell3527]

That's not what the ban is about. Hexamine is used in explosives.

[@_leyrd_.]

@@petetimbrell3527 Ok, but why is it suddenly a problem? Explosives have always tended to go bang and hurt people/ damage stuff. What's changed to make it an issue now?

[@cuhurun]

Banning Hexi blocks ? Yep, I'm ex army, Royal Anglian. So pleased I emigrated many years back. Britain has become a nightmare.

[@gfuentes8449]

where to? if i can ask

[@cuhurun]

@@gfuentes8449 : Eastern Europe.

[@Steve24339]

@@cuhurun I fancy Russia now. You know where you stand with a good dictator!!

[@cuhurun]

@@Steve24339 ; I tend to also worry about certain 'western' governments, the sort who instigate, fund and support military coups, such as the one which occurred in the Ukraine back during 2014. Always tends to cause a bit of a ruckus, especially when the hard-line next door neighbour takes no s___ from anyone.

[@Steve24339]

@@cuhurun I remember the words of another old soldier, (fictional), "Were doomed Mr Mannering, were doomed".

[@richardcarey169]

Loved my Hexi stove, never a problem in two decades of Army Service, just don't cook in your tent, unless you are Military Police and have had your cerebral cortex removed

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@cordellkent4790]

Which State/s please?

[@NathanEllisBodi]

It's OK if you're an MP as long as your dogs in the tent too.

[@johnnycooper7019]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MadDogSurvival]

We are policed by consent….. most of us do not consent to our current police !

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@MadDogSurvival]

👍🏻👍🏻😎

[@redpillnibbler4423]

🎯 spot on. The police serve the government not the people.

[@MDM1992]

I never consented to 99 percent of the bullshit legislation they pass without our knowledge.. the more you read the more you want to riot.

[@callumclark3358]

What kind of police do you think would be acceptable to you? And do you think it’s achievable?

[@michaeledmondson5100]

Politicians make these idiot laws. I suggest that being a politician should be made a crime with a minimum sentence of ten years with no parole.

[@jakewright4394]

and a hefty fine that would ecompass every penny they get from the public purse too!...

[@georgeallen8781]

well said bud, totally agree

[@thomasmusso1147]

It's people who first vote these idiot politicians into power. The people then also become idiots when they repeat the exercise, voting once again for the same idiots.

[@Graeme_Lastname]

Yes, yes yes! But only ten years?

[@michaeledmondson5100]

I did state MINIMUM sentence of 10 years​@@Graeme_Lastname

[@robshirewood5060]

Hexi saved my life in a blizzard with a broken ankle on the Brecons without it i would not have hot brews to keep me going, oddly enough my father suffered the same injury nearby when he was in the TA. I still use the old hexi stove he had but with different fuel and i also use the BCB with Firedragon. I find putting a little cooking foil into the bottom where you put the fuel gel stops me having to clean up the hard black mess it leaves behind, and it can easily be put into a trash bag to take home. I painted the bottom of my mess tins with heat proof paint because the black gets hotter quicker and boils faster, i also have custom lids that i got on ebay, same with my BCB mugs and stand. Threatening people with prison over something so petty, when a simple explanation would advise them to trash them safely is overkill and unwarranted. There are far more important misdemeanours and crimes to be dealt with

[@georgeborrow4001]

I agree. And some useful tips as well. Thanks for watching

[@LeslieWells-qz2tb]

Yes there is, hurty words online, real crimes don't matter any more.

[@therespectedlex9794]

*Brecon Beacons **Bannau Brycheiniog Only old tarts and autistic doctors say the Brecons.

[@moorshound3243]

I hate fire dragon fuel, it just doesn't work as well.

[@pauls3075]

@@moorshound3243 And yet we have seen it demonstrated very well on this video. Maybe its you thats the problem.

[@RagingPaganFilms]

Oxalic acid has been banned as well. It's now illegal to possess rhubarb.

[@blueband8114]

Shit, I ate homemade Rhubarb crumble the other day. My arse is now a controlled chemical producer

[@jimtaylor294]

😂👌

[@iggzistentialism8458]

Only oxalic acid 10%+...I think you're good

[@doonhamer252]

@@blueband8114 embrace it like the first time nookie..

[@AndyHullMcPenguin]

@@iggzistentialism8458 So what you are saying is that I'm fine, so long as I don't over cook the rhubarb, but the moment I do, I end up on a watch list.

[@azbushcraft283]

I guess the police have solved all other crimes, stock up now and tell them bollocks

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@stuc.6592]

The police didn't make this law and I'd surprised if they ever enforced it on your average camper or hiker. If you're carrying two dozen packets in a carrier bag down the high street then you'll probably have questions to answer. It's just closing a loophole that could be used by a bomb maker. The fuel will disappear fairly soon from the shops as it becomes common knowledge and we'll all be using the new stuff without any fuss.

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Police are petty and you are far too ignorant to believe this ​@@stuc.6592

[@betweentwomillennium5057]

The reason that they don’t want people to have hexamethylene tablets is because you can make hexamethylene tetra amine. You mix the hexamine tablets with hydrogen peroxide and add citric acid and it makes a primary explosive for blasting caps. You also can make cyclonite for C-4 explosives. Hexamine can be made by mixing formaldehyde and ammonia together to get the hexamine condensation product. This is the same BS as why they said that methyl ethyl ketone was carcinogenic. Because people could mix it with hydrogen peroxide and at a few drops of sulfuric acid and make a primary explosive. If the government realized that C-4 could be made from apples, and it can be, fucking apples would be illegal or found to be carcinogenic.

[@bannor_murphy369]

Thanks nice to know why 👍

[@JackFrost008]

can't eat apple seeds but nobody does anyway

[@dennis8196]

Well that's the dumbest statement I have read this morning. ​@@JackFrost008the seed are the best part, full of fibre, more fibre than the skin.

[@meshapious1597]

@@dennis8196 Apple seeds contain b17 which kills cancer !!! (Go-figure why they banned it)...

[@normanhall324]

You have to consume an awful lot of apple seeds to do harm?

[@suffolkcamper4047]

Soon leaving your house will land you in jail the way things are going lol.

[@lw1zfog]

they tried it in 2020 & will likely give it another go, if allowed.

[@suffolkcamper4047]

@@lw1zfog They're just itching to try it again. I suspect next time it'll be climate bs that's the excuse.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@regd.2263]

You will have to ask permission George Orwell 1984, yeah OK he got the date wrong but was right in what he predicted.

[@diarmaidok]

See "Rosa Koire Behind the Green Mask" to see what Net Zero/UN Sustainable Development is all about-zero Private Property-Zero Privacy and the UN and Chatham House [aka Illuminati Worldwide HQ] have planned. They want all public airports in the UK apart from Heathrow closed by 2030 and that closed by 2050. Basically the people that control Blackrock, Vanguard and State Street want the few assets they don't yet control-our houses cars and private property. Watch UK Column News, Redacted or Russell Brands videos about "The Great Reset" it is the New World Order/Revelation 13 Global Government with cashless economy a system called technocracy based on Universal Basic Income and carbon credits.

[@davidbradley6040]

this along with knives and forks can get you arrested in UK. we have no legal rights ,just things that haven't been banned yet.

[@charge4780]

Legal is nothing against COMMON LAW. STANDING IN OUR SOVEREIGNTY

[@jimtaylor294]

What's even more absurd is you need ID to buy knives or other bladed implement if under 25... yet you can buy a lump Hammer or other potential bludgeoning weapons with no checks whatsoever 😂 . It's almost like banning people from using certain tools in everyday encourages more misuse of said tools, not less. If it didn't then yobbos should all be walking around with hammers and other improv' weapons.

[@You-cant-do-that-anymore]

Welcome to the land of NO!!!!!!

[@athewake]

We are all just surfs in a continuing feudal society controlled by the landed gentry.......

[@andrewlancefield3730]

No you can't....

[@bigfish5118]

Single use plastics, forcing them in where they never were before. Priceless.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Yes indeed. Thanks for watching

[@gypsygem9395]

Exactly!

[@fishbiscuit2000]

Well it doesn't seem to have been publicised widely. You can find them still for sale on plenty of UK sites .

[@georgeborrow4001]

Yes I have seen them. There is more detailed information at gov.uk website

[@KAISERDJG]

yea its legal to sell them... like knives, but you cant carry a knife about and for some stupid reason you cant carry these fuel tablets.

[@petersimpson633]

Checked the link, it's true- identified as 'a newly regulated pre curser' for making explosives

[@user-bi8ko7kc6h]

@@KAISERDJGbut it’s legal to carry a knife IF you have a reasonable reason e.g camping. Are the fuel tablets illegal to carry or own?

[@JG-fv9bv]

So in order for anyone to legally be anle to use a Hex block they'd need to get an EPP License ...utter madness ......makes you wonder if this is about slowly drop drip removing people's ability to be self sufficient and also so the Government can stock up on such items for when they declare war against Russia and send hundreds of thousands of the country's youth off to the meat grinder in Ukraine in the planned never ending war .

[@jwsuicides8095]

Prisoners talking: I was found with indecent images of children on my computer and got 4 months. I sang a Christmas carol in a public place and got 12 months. I had a hexi stove....got 2 years.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@puddleduck4924]

What!!!? Yall cant sing Christmas carols in public????? Also, why was hexamine outlawed?

[@lowkey1969]

@@puddleduck4924 Can be a precursor to an explosive. Just as many household chemicals are...:)

[@MrPDoff]

​@@lowkey1969just dont get caught buying fertiliser and collecting it in a diesel car....

[@lowkey1969]

@@MrPDoff And Not For Official use...

[@richardmason4941]

A lot of Military people are going to be in trouble then!! this stove is part of their 24 hour ration pack when they are on exercise!!

[@trinitytennant838]

Correct I have used these many times in field exercises around the world….. what a load of BS

[@oddjob7821]

You will find the law is applied only when it suits those in power.

[@dr_chicken5911]

Makes Perfect Sense, Should only be used for their intended purpose and not leisurely by divvies!

[@stuc.6592]

The military already use a huge number of things that a civilian can't, there's clearly an exemption for military use.

[@wiggy5209]

Heaven forbid that military folks under much closer scrutiny and more training with less rights ever get an advantages over civvilian school children..... It would be okay to use until our surplus has been used up ..because thanks to the budget ....we dont really have funds to waste them .... What we have is filed/logged more .,held under greater scrutiny and where we could do stuff with it ....would be far more limiting that that available to civvis

[@tekknorat]

In a dystopian world is there anything that won't land you in jail?

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@lpj55]

Even asking that question could be enough to get your collar felt!

[@gfuentes8449]

lots of things. Firstly if you're a woman you have immunity from prosecution. If you're a migrant and have the luck to get a white female judge, you will rarely go to prison.

[@monty_sultana]

The blocks themselves can be used to make explosives that is why the Uk government has banned them since October the metal stove itself can still be used

[@paulleary8594]

Haha what bullshit ,lookat what they make rockets out of , are they gonna ban sugar?

[@wiggy5209]

The blocks could've been used for that ...all of the time they were around ... I can only imagine that they raided a terrorist group with stuff like this as their primary explosive and so that's why it's being changed?

[@monty_sultana]

@@wiggy5209 too many bloody immigrants n only getting worse in the UK we can’t enjoy camping without some idiot moaning

[@Proper-Kernow]

The police dont know current laws let alone new ones relating to camping.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@user-TonyUK]

I never saw the Police about when I was Hiking the Pennine Way or the Coast to Coast, both of which I have done in both directions.

[@TheMattlockyer]

Currently car camping in Australia. Ive been using my Hexi instead of my fold up fire pit/grill as i've only been to places where naked flames are prohibited. This morning I asked a passing Cop car if I'm likely to get into trouble for using the Hexi and they said as long as I didnt use it in a way that could start a bushfire I'd probably be OK. They obviously hadn't heard that Hexi's were dangerous either. Blocks are cheap as chips here, $5.45 for a pack of 8.

[@jackdimond7810]

Heating rations on hex stove with your SA80 (I did my 3 star shoot so I had an LSW), is just so nostalgic! The good old days of cadets!

[@scotty5717]

They dont come wrapped in an England or union flag,so the police wont bother you..i certainly wont stop using them from my local army&navy store

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks

[@andrewhughes8687]

I think the law prevents businesses from buying or selling without a license. As I read it, not a lawyer, it isn’t illegal to have them. Just buy or sell them.

[@responderman]

Whatever the reason they have for making it illegal who on earth is going to police it because you can't get a policeman out to your house after a burglary let alone you cooking on a stove in the middle of nowhere.

[@TheBorderRyker]

TWO YEARS for having a few hexi blocks??? That’s insane!

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@LeslieWells-qz2tb]

Yes it is, but you can steal and rob people and get less time in prison, that's our government for you.

[@thecardboardsword]

Wouldn't happen in the real world. You can still buy hexi blocks everywhere. Dunno what they're on about

[@paulworgan6599]

I guess I’ll have to burn mine 😂 😂 😂😂😂

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@paulkinnear705]

After 8yrs in the service, I can’t believe this!! I now live down under and can pop to Bunnings, or the local shop and buy Hexi firelighters by the box!! Nuts!!! 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@R0d_1984]

Glad you're with us mate, though it's getting worse here every day, i can't believe us Aussie are putting up with this sh!t, urbanization seems to create weakness.

[@brendanstoran7555]

The prisons are full, are they going to release a serious criminal to lock up someone for using a stove?😳😂😂😂

[@laurapirrit6722]

They're obviously not going to release anyone. They're just going to build a giant wall around the entire country and turn it into a giant open air prison managed by Pascal Sauvage.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@markbooth1117]

Sod that. I have been using hexi since the 1980's when I was a squaddie, now a civvie I still use them when out and about on a wander in the hills. If they want to nick me, I will be in a valley far, far away from any roads, etc. burning the evidence (for a nice brew) and they can come and find me (if they can, out of their nice warm patrol car). At least you can also burn the cardboard wrapping on a box of hexi blocks,so no waste. You can't burn that plastic crap on the Fire Dragon Tablets, so much for no waste and saving the envi.ronment.

[@gypsygem9395]

Exactly!!

[@johnnycooper7019]

Dear Mark, bloody good drills! Best Wishes Johnny

[@joejugashvili3616]

Reminds me of the time I asked for TWO boxes of Paracetamol at a pharmacy before going motorhoming on the continent. Being prepared gets you a stern look from a pharmacist. Likewise when I was doing some fiberglass work. Only acetone I could get was a tiny bottle of nail polish remover. Oh, well. Single use brushes. Back in the day, when I was doing a LOT of fiberglassing, I had a 25 litre drum of the stuff.

[@gypsygem9395]

You can probably still get that drum online, much like the Hydrogen peroxide that's also disappeared from pharmacy shelves. Mind boggles

[@Drew-Abbott]

I've never heard of this law change. I don't bother with gels, making my own is cheaper and they last longer. Wood shavings and wax

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@Taffwildmanofthewoods]

I can remember in my army days substituting hexamine blocks for Kendal mint cake. The new recruits struggled to light it and the rest of us rolled around laughing. I suspect one would need a lot of it to make an explosive powerful enough to cause harm. Additionally, why is it only in 2023 someone thought of banning it? Cheers 👊

[@Rosco0754]

I saw hexiblocks been dipped in chocolate and given to Bosnian kids in 95. Looking back now it was a sh*t move.

[@trevormillar1576]

What happened when they ate the hexi blocks?

[@macstarr6207]

That's a gem 😊

[@johnnycooper7019]

Wicked bugger! I did the same bloody good drills (LMFAO) Best Wishes Johnny

[@Taffwildmanofthewoods]

@@johnnycooper7019 The army has gone shit now, no pranks allowed for fear of bullying.

[@125ZJK]

You took me right back to the mid 80's with this. Hexi Blocks and 24 hour rat packs...

[@steadynumber1]

I first came across the hex stove when my brother produced one on a cycling holiday we took in the Peak District in the 1960s. Nice & easy stove to use.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@stephransley4371]

Is hexamine the same stuff as firelighters?

[@VeritySnatch]

its a precursor chemical used in the manufacture of a couple of quite destructive materials

[@damianjones7554]

So explain, as this is the first I've heard of this law. Why is owning a standard army issue hexi block stove suddenly illegal? Surely the aluminium stove itself is harmless? Also the actual hexi block itself is just a simple fire lighter exactly the same as what they sell for the quick start of wood stove burners which many country houses still use? How is the law being broken? How are these materials suddenly after decades of safe use all of a sudden a big problem to the law?

[@redpillnibbler4423]

Obviously it’s the hexi fuel.Whole thing is beyond ridiculous.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@glenndouglas8822]

It's not a simple firelighter, it's compounds are used for bombs as plastic explosive is slightly hard to get now 😂🤣 no seriously, I know some geek's who own massive train sets and they got a simple license for £40 and now still use it but mate you ain't gonna get nicked for using it camping ya numbnut, it's if you have 7kgs in ya garage alongside other material.

[@fredblogs]

I used to work on a explosive site that also made Hexamin ( don’t know if I have spelt it right) I think you will find that Hexamin gives off a harmful odour.

[@tinderboxcreations]

Domestic firelighters are kerosene resin. Hexamine is non-solvent based and can be used as an explosive precursor and is found in some military explosive and propellant applications. That is why.

[@ellenclayton5955]

Imagine being in prison between murderers and rap!sts for this.....

[@taffman1]

I used to wipe solid hand soap over the base of my mess tin before cooking, came off very easily.

[@georgeborrow4001]

good tip,

[@Corky341]

@@georgeborrow4001 a wet, still warm tea bag does the job too. ;-)

[@MR.TB67]

The laws of this land have become absolutely ridiculous, I take no notice of the law anymore and go of common sense I will not be controlled

[@tjfm59]

recently accured a uk army mess tin set. now i wanted a lid for each pot. went to my local grocery store. got at least 2 of the heavy foil pans. marked out the size of the mess tins on the heavy foil pans than cut them out after making sure they where at least 1/4 in - 6 mm larger on each side. put the cut foil on top an folded the edges over. store on top of each pan folding the handles over.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks again

[@TheBuckspygmy]

Why are hexamine blocks still for sale then? Why no publicity? I have 2 kilos of hexamine. (Yes I do know it is a precursor for explosives, but so is aspirin, and many other things not banned.)

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@darreno9874]

Owning the tablets is only a problem if you don't pay the government and give them your details to get a licence, what a con. Vote Reform UK to clean out the Westminster swamp and close the boarder

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks

[@bytesabre]

How will voting for the far right increase freedom for the general public exactly? Every other party like this everywhere promises the moon on a stick to get power, then uses it to put a boot on people’s necks, why would Reform be any different? My grandparents didn’t fight a war against these monsters just for people to openly invite them in the door.

[@carlarthur4442]

The Army used them for years I've still got some I my shed , great little bit of kit .

[@ronaldfitzsimmons9902]

Ex Army, got to say the good old Hexi cooker ' got me through it all.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Good to hear. Thank you.

[@Nick-zp3ub]

A purpose-built stove can still cause fires if used irresponsibly, but personally I'm more worried about single-use bbqs being left at beaches and woodland. Horrible things need to be banned

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@stco2426]

Agree

[@scottsound4711]

Did you know - A light or box of matches can still cause fires if used irresponsibly. You said - But personally I'm more worried about single-use bbqs being left at beaches and woodland. Yet you have never been to the beach litter picking/woodlands or wrote to an Mp or councillor about these worries Why ? Shall we ban the colour Red too ?

[@Nick-zp3ub]

@@scottsound4711 I don't live near the beach or a natural park, smartass. But when I go to one I always put my litter in the bin. I never light fires or use bbqs there because I know the hot sand can burn the feet of a child or dog, and the embers could cause a forest fire

[@davidculmer1520]

Surely its not owning the stove thats illegal. Its the blocks. There are any number of other fiels that can be used eith these stoves!

[@Lee_303]

It's not the stove, it's the fuel tablets that came with them. You can now buy alternative solid fuel tablets that are OK. Stoves are not illegal.

[@inregionecaecorum]

I did a quick google the other day and there are still camping outlets selling Esbit tabs. I guess eventually customs will stop them being imported and the supply will dry up, but I doubt if there are going to be any prosecutions. I doubt if the Government even know or care about this unintended consequence of the law.

[@bashkillszombies]

Individual plastic wrapped fuel cells? That's better for the environment than cutting a chunk of hex off? Wild. Your police don't deal with real crimes anymore, but you know they'll buy some overpriced equipment for their helicopters to sniff out hex tabs or something and swarm your position if you dare carry one.

[@stephenl7048]

I used 2 pieces of tempered steel wire straddling 2 stones, put the mess tin on top and burned the haxamine from below. No need for the folding stove if you set it up right. Try that with the alcohol gel - it pishes all over the place if not confined, and leaves a black charred residue when finished.

[@christiantamminen8998]

Ignorance is not a defence in law I believe. But if they don't ban the sales, how can they then say it's illegal? Crazy. Thanks for the heads up. I have used this stove myself. Very practical.

[@mrdelaney4440]

If you dont know then you dont know do you, thats not ignorance whatever they try to say.

[@letmeoffthisplanet6208]

Show how under Common law which is our law they're illegal.. Stop allowing yourself to be frauded by illegal tactics under illegal acts and legislations.

[@snowflakemelter1172]

​@@mrdelaney4440it literally is.

[@snowflakemelter1172]

​@@letmeoffthisplanet6208back under your rock sovereign citizen clown.

[@callumclark3358]

Er ... if you don't know something then you are ignorant of that fact. That's the definition of ignorant, least it was when I went to school.

[@pmac5934]

The reason hexamine ( hexamethylhenetetremine ) is banned as an easily obtained solid fuel is mainly because it is very useful as a base compound for plastic explosives and might very well be used as such by the very bad actors who hate our way of life . Nobody is stopping you from camping - except , perhaps intolerant owners of the land . Nobody is denying it was useful as solid fuel for ordinary soldiers in previous conflicts but it didn't win any wars and there are other fuels available now . By the way , I had a conversation with ex - SRC service not too long ago who mentioned practising using hex blocks alongside other materials to make things go bang . The fumes are also toxic but then again nobody refers to fresh air as 'fumes' , do they ? Yes , it is useful ( in many applications not just as a heat source ) but the reason it is banned for easy purchase is to help to prevent terrorists from attacking us , by adding a step to the processes necessary for a non-chemist without a proper lab from manufacturing explosives that might endanger innocent members of the public. If you have a problem with that I suggest you learn all the other many ways of eating whilst sleeping open

[@SprocketGames]

A lot of people use those fuel tablets for miniature steam engine models. I wonder if they are allowed to use fuel tablets for miniature steam engines. Thanks for the video!

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@SteamTrainsNStuff]

We can't, Mamod which is a live steam toy manufacturer wasnt even told of the ban the only found out when a shipment of steam toys got going out the country got flagged due to the included solid fuel. Hex tablets have been replaced by a fuel gel but I'm not impressed with it at all for my steam engines.

[@NewHampshireJack]

I believe I will be spending the rest of my afternoon reading the comments. We love our "folding pocket stoves." When our troops were little, they were each issued a pocket stove and for practice sessions we used gel alcohol fuel that was purchased in bulk from restaurant and catering supply shops. The gel fuel is intended for use in chaffing dishes and is very reasonable in price. We pack the bulk fuel into cleaned and recycled plastic dish detergent bottles. Each stove has a selection of aluminum bottle caps and small tins to contain the fuel and is chosen to hold the needed amount. The system is easy for field use. We do have DIY liquid alcohol burners for the adults and our maturing older troopers. We like the fact the gel fuel burns clean and does not spread in the event of a tipover the way liquid fuel does. Much safer for practice with the young ones. We would only consider genuine hexamine for serious use in an emergency situation. Hexamine is still the king of fuels for these little stoves. It is prohibitively expensive in our area due to import and VAT taxes, it is not for daily use. My brother-in-law snagged two large bags (200 pieces each) of alcohol cubes from Japan at a surplus auction but we quickly learned they deteriorate rapidly and are no good as an emergency storage fuel even if refrigerated. Now, may I say that the Brits I have known were a rugged, no nonsense group. One was a WW2 paratrooper and had spent time as a POW. He was small in stature but I never saw any of the local punks mess with him where we worked together. He had the "do not F&%K with me look in his eyes." It is true that you get what you vote for. I hope folks in the UK will rise up and not allow their government to treat them as servants & slaves. Take charge and tell those you elect what you expect of them. OK, enough rambling. Watching you from our "secret retirement location" in Bulacan province, on Luzon island, in the Republic of the Philippine Islands. Now, it is time to whack the like button and subscribe.

[@byteme9718]

The entire reason we face these stupid laws is because of the problems US foreign policy has caused around the world including the mass poverty in the Philippines.

[@MikeGraves-pd2tg]

A used Tea Bag will clean your mess tins better than any cleaning pad.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for the (PG) tips., 😁

[@snowflakemelter1172]

There is literally free pan scrubs all around you, it's called grass.

[@peetsnort]

We just rubbed the bottom on sand.bish bash bosh

[@CarlosAlberto-ii1li]

I used these back in the mid 60's, worked well, bought them in Army and Navy shops.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Excellent stuff. thanks for watching.

[@hillbillymal9351]

You didnt say why having hexi blocks could land you in prison

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@betweentwomillennium5057]

Because he amine can be mixed with hydrogen peroxide and citric acid to make hexamethylenetetramine for constructing blasting caps. This is why they took methyl-Ethyl ketone off the market. They said it was carcinogenic but it was because you could make MEK peroxide explosive. They just lied about the cancer. They don’t give a fuck if you get cancer. If they realized you could make C-4 out of apples, (and yes, you can) they would be illegal too.

[@jonb3311]

It can be used to make bombs.

[@markkieran1004]

Goverment paranoia - acetone could be used in the same way to produce peroxide explosives. Oops, have I inadvertently made the possession of nail varnish remover a criminal offence.

[@noseygits4354]

So it's not the stove but the hexamine that's now illegal unless you have a license

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@Jonathan906]

Those stoves are a great piece of kit. They are perfect for when you just want a hot cup of something to perk you up on a long hike.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Yes I agree. Thanks for watching

[@philotown]

Mess tins are easy to clean with sand or soil. Yep old squaddie.

[@saltyc3194]

So now instead of hex blocks packed in waxed card that could also be burned as fuel we now are expected to use something that appears to come in non reusable plastic tubs. So much for reducing plastic waste. The new law was not widely publicised. How were people supposed to know about it?

[@anthonyferris8912]

You've picked a nice day for it...😂

[@georgeborrow4001]

Just a normal bank holiday weekend 😃 Thanks for watching.

[@Simon_W74]

I have a love hate relationship with Hexi stoves, They enable me to do All in Meals when I was on the Army and seemed to have enough to get you through your 24hr rat pack. Hate is I was changing a gas cannister my way as I didn't have a clue what I was doing. Just as the Hexie block was about to go out it caught the gas that had leaked out of the cannister and flames shoot up my legs (bare at the time) taking out my tents door, I had longish hair too. Had as it singed it quite badly, so I ended up with short hair and much to my Dads relief as he had been getting on at me to get it cut for ages. I wouldn't have bothered trying to change the cannister if It wasn't for a friend having an Asthma Attack, and hadn't brought their inhaler. We were going to go and get it for her, but needed some thing to light up our camp as we where camping in a wood not too far from home. I find it daft that they would target something that is very good at what it is meant for and it doesn't burn for that long either. Yet more Over reach in areas that really don't need it.

[@lindsayheyes925]

Barry has come a long way from inventing a ski suit that could double as a lightning conductor. Long may he prosper.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks

[@Jb-tl1yi]

This also affects those that have Mamod model steam engines, they used the exact same fuel

[@georgeborrow4001]

Yes it does. thanks for watching

[@LeonTrotsky6782]

Seems the clickbait title triggered everyone, well done.

[@j.b.708]

In a couple years you'll be arrested for complaining about the law that says you can be arrested for having those tablets.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@johntims2416]

As if the police have time to enforce this May be a water bailiff could say something but i would not worry about using them .

[@georgeborrow4001]

Yes I agree. Thanks for watching

[@rogerhudson9732]

This is straight out of the 100ml bottle on aircraft mindset. Just because hexamine can be turned into hexogen(RDX) explosive. Even the little white German fuel tabs are banned as well.

[@BaseDeltaZero1972]

This brings back memories. ACF in the 80's...bought all my stuff from "Callan" and "Soldier of Fortune" in Liverpool. Considered "The SAS Survival Handbook" to be my Bible. :D I got a stack of gear from my mates brother who'd finished up in the TA as well...he gave me a G-10 kip bag and stacks of other kit. Happy times!

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@Howard-bj1jq]

@@georgeborrow4001 Can't you come up with a different comment once in a while?

[@mattsnowden973]

So it’s the hexi blocks that are outlawed not the stoves, the stoves can still be used but with fire jells or similar stuff. So the blocks have been outlawed because that can be used to make bombs

[@byteme9718]

There are countless ways to make explosives and banning hexamine tablets will not make a difference.

[@OldNavajoTricks]

If only there was some way of disposing of the fuel.. ☕️☕️☕️😂

[@georgeborrow4001]

Ha ha yes if only

[@chriscunningham1348]

😂

[@janmariolle]

😂

[@stephengarrett8076]

Outrageous 😡 if that's the case will they ban all vehicles as certain people use these for unlawful use ???

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@StevenKeery]

StephenGarrett: The Doggers aren't going to be happy.😂

[@peetsnort]

So what they're saying is hexamine can be used for explosives..?

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@oddball7483]

My deceased dad tried to clean an old heavily stained toilet bowl. Tried all sorts of household cleaners like bleach and scourers etc Nothing seemed to work in exasperation he stopped trying and gave up slamming the door as he left the throne room. There followed a large explosion and on opening the door to investigate found the entire bowl shattered. Problem solved.😄 Shame a politician wasn't sitting on it at the time.😂

[@oml81mm]

Bleach and harpic mixed together is quite nasty... ps If you do not know what I mean look it up, but DO NOT experiment.

[@Chris-uk.]

Imagine if the cbdc knows you purchased one lol, purchase while you still can fishing lines hooks etc befor they switch us of with the cbdc.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks

[@markpirie1986]

A hexi block is for cooking food in hot water. It's probably been misused for other purposes as I know from both experiences. It's bloody stupid law's in this country we've got.

[@danielreed5199]

Using a Hexi burner requires a ration-al mindset.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching.

[@petersimpson633]

I see what you did there..

[@BurtReynoldstash]

That seems to be in short supply of late.

[@tjfm59]

on to the leagal issue of heaximine. if you have the correct recipe, RDX can be removed from heaximine. this is a primary exposlive. where as the dragon is only using a jellied alcohol. (naplam).

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@BlackthornBushcraft]

So it's the fuel not the stove? You can make your own fuel blocks with wax, petroleum jelly and cottonwool. From memory hexi tabs stank anyway.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@davidf4897]

Owning the stove is not illegal. Owning hexamine is. What's the fuss. Anyone who has used hex in the forces hated it and dumped using it as quickly as possible.

[@emersonmsd]

Only in the UK. You must have all gone nuts since I left. Yes the gel is better but making them illegal. 🤦‍♀

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@cnorris517]

Dumped all my hexi fuel years ago cos it's nasty. Use either gel in a foil cupcake tin ( in the old hexi stove) or my MSR petrol stove now Also a good cheaper alternative to buying alcohol fuels is to buy those little chaffing burners used to keep food hot, last time i bought them i got 24 for £5, each one lasts about 3 hours and they come with a screw lid so don't leak

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@andrewfox7861]

Standard issue in military rashion packs, what's the problem

[@georgeborrow4001]

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[@moorshound3243]

​@@georgeborrow4001maybe say something else on occasion

[@parrotraiser6541]

What's the problem with hexamine? Were people getting wasted on the stuff and going berserk?

[@snowflakemelter1172]

Hexamine is the base chemical for the production of Hexamethylenetetramine otherwise known as RDX, the explosive used in Semtex, PE4 and most plastic explosives , though banning certain chemicals from retail sale seems pointless as even things like table sugar can be nitrated into nitrosucrose which is as close to nitroglycerin (Dynamite ) as you can get , then there is guncotton which is just nitrated cotton fibre which could be produced from ordinary cotton wool, are they going to ban every substance that can be nitrated ? That's a long list.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

Thanks for that info. The whole law thing about it is beyond ridiculous.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@SlanderMan.]

Doing literally anything in England is deemed a criminal act

[@georgeborrow4001]

Its getting like that.

[@daveys]

These rules don’t stop you from buying or or a shop from selling hexi tablets. The seller just needs to keep a record of who bought the items and the purpose, if a certain threshold is reached. So if you go into the shop and buy some hexi fuel for your stove and they ask you for ID and what it’s for, produce that and tell them why you want it. It’s a response to previous instances where people have made improvised explosives and not people doing bushcraft, you’re just caught up in it.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@paulpapadelta7994]

Collecting data like 1930's Germany( E.g. do you think your neighbour is a jew) They ,(The government) has an excuse to make everyone a criminal using Venders to turn people in for the ordinary use of something. It is like when they made shop keepers unpaid tax collectors (V.A.T)

[@rogerd6166]

I always used a soggy used up tea bag to clean the bottom off my mess tins.

[@m0ther0ne]

You forgot to tell us why they have been outlawed.

[@inaminute9643]

That's what I want to know

[@andyjohnson6270]

‘cuz Hexamine can be used in the manufacture of improvised explosives.

[@peterbrown5987]

Is this a wind up? Why would hexi blocks be illegal?

[@redpillnibbler4423]

Countries gone to fuck.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@thomasmusso1147]

More BS to focus attention away from more important issuesl

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@redpillnibbler4423]

🎯

[@Alastair510]

Newsflash; nobody uses those anymore. They use a version that burns an alcohol-based fuel (the firedragon that he mentions). The hexamine gave off quite toxic fumes. I found that, when used with a windshield, one tab cooked dinner plus makes a hot drink. The alcohol can be used as a hand sanitizer.

[@paulbennett274]

The authorities aren't bothered about people's safety using Hexane blocks as a fuel but they are very worried about people misusing Hexane itself as it's a chemical precursor to making high explosive, hence the ban!

[@macstarr6207]

They did the same with the weedkiller sodium chlorate cos the ira were using it to make propellant for mortars!

[@jonb3311]

Not a lot of thinking going on here with the complaints., by people who haven't been arsed to look up why hexane has been banned.

[@gfuentes8449]

@@jonb3311 except hexane hasn't, hexamine has. Maybe you need to do some thinking.

[@gfuentes8449]

hexane and hexamine are two different things. Hexane is a common solvent used to extract food-grade seed oils

[@R0d_1984]

@@jonb3311 What you're missing is how long has it been around.

[@Steve-cw2hc]

Anyone want to buy 20 packs of military issue tabs. Lol .

[@mucy2807]

Same - I have quite a few, which I can assure the police, I WILL be using.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@robanderson473]

Who would have thought, prison time for sticking stickers and now hexi stoves, well slap me.

[@pnyarrow]

Hi. This is a surprise but the hexi did give off cyanide fumes. The Fire Dragon is easier to light however one can't clean the bottom of the mess tin easily with a tea bag like one could with hexi. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe out there

[@lindsayheyes925]

Use sand or grit as a scourer.

[@pnyarrow]

@@lindsayheyes925 Sand, grass or mares tail as a scourer but not gir as it scratches too much. Personally I use half a "Scotchbride" pad.

[@lindsayheyes925]

@@pnyarrow Fine grit - I wasn't bothered by scratches. Half a Scotchbrite lived in my RCK - the same piece for over 10 years.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@Frakka475]

Why change the stove why can’t you just use the FD-gel in the old stove?

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@RalphHeron-d6w]

Used to be issued with 24 HR arctic ration boxes, hexamine stinks.

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching

[@richie6496]

Don't know if I believe that I have a bag full of them

[@georgeborrow4001]

Thanks for watching. Is on the gov.uk. Website.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

I’m ignoring it and continue to use them.

[@michalurbanful]

From the outside it looks like everything will be illegal in the UK soon. :(