Joey Carbstrong argues that animals are sentient beings & killing them for food is morally wrong

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Joey Carbstrong speaks for the proposition of the motion that This House Would Go Vegan. Mr Carbstrong is an animal rights activist and KZbinr about his vegan diet and lifestyle.
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@FanGirl171
@FanGirl171 9 ай бұрын
Excellent Joey. So eloquent and moving. Can’t understand how people can see and hear about these horrible brutalities and still support them.
@RebekkaHay
@RebekkaHay 9 ай бұрын
Enough with this holier than though BS! What “horrible brutalities”? You’re lucky that you can hide behind a username online, in IRL what you’re doing is called slander and is punishable by law!
@Macluny
@Macluny 9 ай бұрын
@@RebekkaHay Gas chambers and macerators are pretty horrible and certainly brutal.
@missoats8731
@missoats8731 9 ай бұрын
@@RebekkaHay In what way is that slander? 😂I love how you folks are exposing your stupidity in this comment section. It helps people see which side has the arguments.
@hghyfyfiugou4448
@hghyfyfiugou4448 9 ай бұрын
Hyenas rip unborn animals out of their mother's wombs and eat them alive in front of the mother as she struggles and then eat her. What are you going to do about that?
@dreadpirate3159
@dreadpirate3159 8 ай бұрын
Uhh animals kill other animals for food what will u do abt that
@GoVeganForTheAnimal
@GoVeganForTheAnimal 9 ай бұрын
Wow this was so well presented that I actually went vegan for new years and decided I'm going to commit some time to activism like Joey does. What an impressive gentleman changing the world for these beings !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Peace for all
@isienterttainmetnz3338
@isienterttainmetnz3338 8 ай бұрын
I've been vegan for approaching 8 years now, after a lifetime of meat-eating. You've made an incredible choice. Keep informed, patient and don't let the apathy of the world get you down. Choose compassion.
@Vegan12
@Vegan12 8 ай бұрын
Twit- you are all over vegan youtube proclaiming to be vegan for 7 years
@isienterttainmetnz3338
@isienterttainmetnz3338 8 ай бұрын
I take it you're a troll account with a weird chip on their shoulder against veganism. I haven't commented anywhere else, let alone other vegans videos. I have a separate account to watch vegan and health so~~~ yeah, weird take, dude.@@Vegan12
@DeeDeecampbellmusic
@DeeDeecampbellmusic 8 ай бұрын
Well done
@Vegan12
@Vegan12 8 ай бұрын
@@isienterttainmetnz3338 hey genius- it was directed at the original poster
@wickedmageik1712
@wickedmageik1712 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Joey for being so confident, articulate, and just absolutely someone to look up to. Nothing but facts, and clarity. Thank you for being you
@a_ij6269
@a_ij6269 9 ай бұрын
The only hard part about being vegan is having witnessed animals bleed to death, getting ignored by friends and family and attacked for trying to defend animals from a cruel and unnecessary death.
@RC-qf3mp
@RC-qf3mp Ай бұрын
All animals die, often brutally by being eaten by other animals, or languishing slowly from disease. You seem to be uneasy about the cycle of life. There’s nothing ‘cruel’ about a tiger eating a zebra or a lion eating a gazelle for a big fish eating a smaller fish. Humans are omnivores and at the top of the food chain. We are predators and have eyes in the front of our heads and fangs - as Darwin observed. There are better and worse ways of caring for animals for human consumption - ‘better’ in terms of nutritional value, taste and environmental impact. The best way to raise livestock is with regenerative farming that enriches the soil and lets grasses and vegetables flourish with the flourishing of the livestock. There’s no waste on such farms … everything that is ‘waste’ for one animals is nourishment for another. Even human food doesn’t go to waste - all leftovers go to pigs, who happily eat it, get fat, and become tasty food one day in turn. Local ecologies increase their biodiversity. Crops use the manure instead of having to add petrochemicals and pesticides on monocultures (which is where most vegan food comes from). It’s glorious to be human and eat such a wide variety of animals, from fish and steak to pork and chicken. We literally were born to do this, to eat this way, and to relish in our place in the world. To deny that is to deny your own humanity.
@Psartz
@Psartz Ай бұрын
@RC-qf3mp What cycle of life are you referring to? In the wild, animals experience a balanced 50-50 chance of survival. From birth, they engage in play, grow, roam freely, and establish their families. Consider a tiger: it must make numerous attempts before securing a meal, symbolizing the innate challenges of the wild. This scenario is worlds apart from the existence of a mother pig giving birth confined to a cage on a metal floor without nest, surrounded by disease and death. Such an environment is far from natural; it's worse than a prison sentence without committing any crime. Imagine sitting in an enclosed cage for 24 hours. Her entire life is spent indoors, devoid of any daylight, ultimately leading to a gas chamber. This stark comparison highlights the profound disparities between natural and captive life.
@RC-qf3mp
@RC-qf3mp Ай бұрын
@@Psartz there is only one ‘cycle of life’ and that’s the one I’m referring to. No, animals do NOT have 50-50 chance of survival. You just made that up. Animals have a 100% chance of dying, 0% of survival. You are very confused. Now you change the subject to HOW animals live. Yes, that varies drastically, and animals raised for human consumption should be raised in a manner that benefits the environment via sustainable practices, such as regenerative farming that enriches the soil and increases biodiversity of the surrounding area. You are referring to the horrible CAFO practices of modern industrial systems, which are horrible. But that is not the only way to raise livestock and not the best and not the preferred one. See videos on YT on Joel Salatin’s polyface farm for an example of biomimicry which improves the ecology and biodiversity, better not JUST for the livestock on his farm but ALL the animals in the surrounding area, and nutrient value of the food for humans, including vegetables, which grow best with manure and not chemical fertilizer. Strawmanning eating meat is like strawmanning veganism. There is smart veganism, and then there’s dumb veganism where people eat ultraprocessed ‘vegan’ food that comes from monocultures of GMOs sprayed with cancer-causing pesticides on ground that is treated with chemicals fertilizers that lead to runoff causing algae bloom far away in the oceans. Is that a fair description of ALL veganism? Of course not. You are very confused about basic facts of life. The world needs MORE regenerative farms and FEWER monocultures. What you are really against is humanity - and, frankly, tigers and all predators that eat other animals. If you saw a pride of lions about to eat a family of gazelles, and you could shoot the lions to save the gazelles, would you do it? Why not? Lions are murderers!! And eagles are murderers, and big fish that east smaller ones. People are animals too. We evolved to love eating meat for a reason. Nature doesn’t make mistakes. Human morality changes with the fashions of the type, but NO culture in world history was ever vegan. You’ve been brainwashed by fanatical religion. And one sign of that is the inability to recognize or resolve obvious contradiction. Reason doesn’t work against fundamentalists. You can’t make sense of your own thoughts.
@Psartz
@Psartz Ай бұрын
@@RC-qf3mp you far gone in this tikitoki carnivore madness.With a 0% survival rate, no animal would be able to survive here.
@RC-qf3mp
@RC-qf3mp Ай бұрын
@@Psartz I’m not a carnivore, I’m an omnivore, and so are you, if you’re homo sapien. That’s how we evolved. All animals die. If you want to talk about ‘survival rate’, you need to specify an age or duration. ‘Survival rate to live past one year’, for example. As for TikTok, i don’t have an account and don’t watch it. But since you chose to insult me rather than address any of the facts and arguments i cite above, i will assume you’re just a confused kid who jumped on the fanatical bandwagon of veganism to fit in with your friend-group. That’s fine, it explains why you can’t rationally defend your fanaticism. Sooner or later you’ll snap out of it. Just as some people have friends who all get tattoos or nose rings or novel pronouns.
@vegefarmerkawlesie
@vegefarmerkawlesie 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant speech!!! Made me and my husband cry... we have been vegan for animals for the last 12 years and going strong!! Hopefully it has tickled some deep hidden empathy in those people 🙏
@joekrige2673
@joekrige2673 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant speech.
@caliskaterboy626
@caliskaterboy626 8 ай бұрын
You’ve saved so many animals in your 12 years! I’m almost at 12 years too.
@chlorophyllphile
@chlorophyllphile 8 ай бұрын
​​@@caliskaterboy626I wouldn't exactly call it saving though. That's like planning a massacre, cancel that plan and claim you saved all their lives by doing so. Still obviously a very good thing though.
@caliskaterboy626
@caliskaterboy626 8 ай бұрын
@@chlorophyllphile I see your point. “Saving” sounds like rescuing animals who are about to be slaughtered. In this case, we’re reducing demand which, especially collectively, leads to reduced supply, thereby reducing the number of animals bred into existence and slaughtered. Do you think “sparing” animals is a more accurate term for this?
@bouncin2207
@bouncin2207 8 ай бұрын
​@@chlorophyllphile "Spared" would be the word.
@MathisDupuy
@MathisDupuy 9 ай бұрын
What a powerful speech. Thank you Joey, for everything you've done (and you do) for the animals
@Wayne_Stream
@Wayne_Stream 8 ай бұрын
you do relise he got a cimminal record en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong
@MathisDupuy
@MathisDupuy 8 ай бұрын
@@Wayne_Stream Yes but he's not like you, he has evolved :)
@HarveyHirdHarmonics
@HarveyHirdHarmonics 8 ай бұрын
@@Wayne_Stream en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
@els7397
@els7397 9 ай бұрын
Theres nothing in this life, for me so far, more enlightening than the argument for veganism. Your speech sums it up so elegantly.
@samluthenberg1751
@samluthenberg1751 8 ай бұрын
lol really, then you must have lived a short life.
@ASOT666
@ASOT666 8 ай бұрын
@@user-ec2nn6ht9r I'll send you $1000 if you can explain why being pro-choice is contradictory with a pro-vegan stance - which is that we should not slaughter sentient animals for food/entertainment/pleasure etc as far as possible/practicable.
@ASOT666
@ASOT666 8 ай бұрын
@@samluthenberg1751 Animal slaughter is one of the most normalized immoral activities in the present day, with the vast majority of the population having an anti-vegan stance. Especially when you consider the scale of the problem, the neglectedness of the animals who are subject to hellish factory farms, and how easily consumer choice can mitigate this issue. What enlightening argument/position might one be exposed to if they've lived a longer life?
@samluthenberg1751
@samluthenberg1751 8 ай бұрын
@@ASOT666 Longer life gives wisdom and also your argument for excluding sentient species from your palate is entirely hypocritical. Just to let you know, shouldn't all living beings have the right to live. That means not just animals but insects, pests, microorganisms like bacteria, and even crops. I am not judging you when you murder all the baby saplings and grind the seeds to make flour. Shouldn't plants also get the same rights as animals? But you judge us for eating meat from an entirely different species and validating with a hypocritical argument that all sentient life has the right to live. I ask you, who made you the king to discriminate against who gets to live. So my advice is, just live your vegan lifestyle, don't be a narcissist, and don't consider yourself a being of high morals. You are exactly the same as me, eating other living beings to grow. We are not photosynthetic so get over it.
@Wayne_Stream
@Wayne_Stream 8 ай бұрын
@@ASOT666 you do relise that most farmers arnt factory farmers and still have to use sluterhouses to put meat into your local supermarket sherls and at butchers right
@samuelmolinari
@samuelmolinari 9 ай бұрын
If people think Katie's speech is sound but Joey's isn't, I literally have no hopes for the future of human civilisation.
@Dominick7
@Dominick7 9 ай бұрын
wdym? What isnt sound about not supporting animal abuse? What else would be unsound but supporting terrorizing and abusing innocent defenseless beings?
@thuglifeinventor
@thuglifeinventor 9 ай бұрын
Just imagine a human being an animal in the afterlife what a terrible life it would be, non vegans are evil, they are stopping humans from enlightenment
@debbiedowner4327
@debbiedowner4327 9 ай бұрын
@@Dominick7did you understand what he means? Or am I misunderstanding you because it sounds like you’re asking the wrong questions.
@Dominick7
@Dominick7 9 ай бұрын
@@debbiedowner4327 not really. Was hoping he or someone would clarify what he said and meant. He seems to be saying Joeys speech wasn't sound.. Not sure who Katie is.
@lostindisorder
@lostindisorder 9 ай бұрын
​​@@Dominick7Katie Hopkins did a speech after essentially mocking empathy, compassion, and veganism. She's a troll of a woman who loves being edgy, always has been.
@shanezveganess5969
@shanezveganess5969 9 ай бұрын
A very powerful speech Joey, thank you, Humanity did not commit these atrocities ... it was the absence of humanity & inhumanity combined. Humanity is what is urgently needed.
@nevermind3959
@nevermind3959 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, Joey, for fighting for animals and for telling the truth, thank you very much for your amazing speech🙏🌱✨️
@HHHSykes
@HHHSykes 9 ай бұрын
Finally, someone in this debate smashing the only point that really matters. Thank you for this. The world needs to hear it.
@benmrgamw681
@benmrgamw681 9 ай бұрын
The world needs to hear about this boy pushing an unhealthy diet? Can you explain how eating a high soy and legume diet which leads to sperm loss at the very least and possible developmental issues for babies and children.. Your most educated response. Please look up harvards study on soy and low sperm, will be one of the first to pop up👌 Really looking forward to your response.
@hemztv
@hemztv 9 ай бұрын
​@@benmrgamw681Can you show me evidence for your claims about soy? (Not blog articles, but scientific journals and studies, peer reviewed by experts)
@foebelboo
@foebelboo 9 ай бұрын
@@benmrgamw681 lower sperm count does not, not in any way get even close to justifying trillions of animals.
@boxonothing4087
@boxonothing4087 9 ай бұрын
@@foebelboo that's about the death toll of agriculture required to grow your vegan food It's wrong to destroy life to consume it, but it's not wrong to destroy life to produce food that doesn't destroy life, did I get it right ? Problem is, you may not kill to eat, you kill to grow what you eat. I guess small life forms aren't important enough to be taken into consideration. Not cute enough ?
@ActiveGamingUK
@ActiveGamingUK 9 ай бұрын
@@boxonothing4087damn you said so much and still managed to sound so stupid
@Smithsterable
@Smithsterable 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Joey and congratulations to The Oxford Union for taking the step to be vegan. Best decision I’ve made personally. Thank you x
@hghyfyfiugou4448
@hghyfyfiugou4448 9 ай бұрын
Hyenas rip unborn animals out of their mother's womb and eat them alive in front of her as she struggles and then gets eaten herself. If they are sentient shouldn't they go vegan?
@BunchOfGreyGrapes
@BunchOfGreyGrapes 9 ай бұрын
Except the Iron that you can't get naturally
@trullman
@trullman 9 ай бұрын
Such an incredibly moving and compelling, heartfelt speech, Joey. Legendary.
@tamiedunstan6079
@tamiedunstan6079 9 ай бұрын
Well done Joey, nothing but 100% truth in your argument 🙌
@MostlyLoveOfMusic
@MostlyLoveOfMusic 9 ай бұрын
This should be obvious and uncontroversial. End animal agriculture now.
@residentjess
@residentjess 9 ай бұрын
You really don’t understand how stupid that would be? It would lead to mass malnutrition. How do you get your plants? Ever heard of bonemeal? Animal manure? Even your cellphone has bits of an animal in it. But you won’t let go off that, huh?
@letshugandlove324
@letshugandlove324 9 ай бұрын
my body my choice
@peteglanton9259
@peteglanton9259 9 ай бұрын
@@letshugandlove324 And what about them and their bodies? Do they choose to be enslaved, exploited, and killed so that you can choose a sandwich, when you could choose hundreds other meals? Oppression looks different from the victim’s point of view.
@georgewashingtom6516
@georgewashingtom6516 9 ай бұрын
@@peteglanton9259 Veganism is just another religion
@letshugandlove324
@letshugandlove324 9 ай бұрын
@@peteglanton9259 so people that believe in eating meat is healthy should be enslaved and oppressed by vegan cult? you eat what you want and I'll eat what I think is healthy and f your control!
@v1nce_g1bbs
@v1nce_g1bbs 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant speech Joey. Thank you for continuously speaking up for oppressed animals. Your work is making a positive impact every single day
@RuberSocks
@RuberSocks 9 ай бұрын
Seriously, this speech needs to be shared to every single classroom of our new generation.
@Wayne_Stream
@Wayne_Stream 8 ай бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong all so has a crimminal record
@Wayne_Stream
@Wayne_Stream 8 ай бұрын
@@RuberSocks en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong all so has a crimminal record
@RuberSocks
@RuberSocks 8 ай бұрын
@@Wayne_Stream Yeah he used to be in a gang when he was young many years ago and is very open about it. The power of change is lost on you though
@vegan_skye
@vegan_skye 9 ай бұрын
Joey Carbstrong is such a selfless man. He has dedicated his life to helping those who can never repay him for his kindness. He speaks for the voiceless. I'm sure if they could say thank you they would.
@Wayne_Stream
@Wayne_Stream 8 ай бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong he got a crimminal record
@Renskaaa
@Renskaaa 8 ай бұрын
@@Wayne_Streamgreat example how people can change their lives around, isn’t it? :)
@vegan_skye
@vegan_skye 8 ай бұрын
@@Wayne_Stream Yes he went to prison for his crimes and he has been sober ever since. He turned his life around and has now dedicated his life to helping innocent beings who are being abused. Being an ex gang member doesn't reflect badly on who he is now. If anything it shows that he is capable of personal growth and transformation. Having a criminal record doesn't automatically make you wrong about everything you say for the rest of your life. That's ridiculous.
@Wayne_Stream
@Wayne_Stream 8 ай бұрын
@@vegan_skye you do relise Any conviction the court has ever issued to you will be on your criminal history, and it remains there for life, except when removed by special orders like the Spent Convictions Scheme of Australia. How far back does a background check go in Australia? 5 to 10 years Concerns about how far back police checks go often arise when individuals seek employment or licencing. While the specified timeframe may vary across states and territories, police checks regularly capture convictions and certain offences within the past 5 to 10 years, with some serious offences included indefinitely.
@MrMortadeloyfilemon
@MrMortadeloyfilemon 7 ай бұрын
you're dodgin the point. His history is IRRELEVANT to what he's been doing and what he continues to do. If you cared to listen...@@Wayne_Stream
@angierhinier
@angierhinier 9 ай бұрын
We love you, Joey!!! Keep up the tremendous support for our cause to one day see love and kindness shown to all beings!
@wanderlustecosse7444
@wanderlustecosse7444 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic. Thank you for being a voice for the animals ❤
@virnagalli2164
@virnagalli2164 7 ай бұрын
How about the voice of the aborted child!!
@connerhughes1435
@connerhughes1435 9 ай бұрын
Eloquent, factual and heartfelt, well done Joey
@uniformitydubliner9691
@uniformitydubliner9691 9 ай бұрын
One of THE best speeches I have EVER heard!!!
@LisaCooper-thevegan-123
@LisaCooper-thevegan-123 8 ай бұрын
Well said Joey 😢😢🙏♥️♥️
@Liamcourtnae
@Liamcourtnae 9 ай бұрын
Amazing speech. Transparent. Clear. Consice & nothing but truth!
@georgemioch8981
@georgemioch8981 7 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 He never mentioned that by not eating animals you sentenced all those animals that you would have eaten to not being born... How cruel?
@clarecurtis36
@clarecurtis36 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for speaking up for animals Joey and for spreading the message of kindness and compassion for all beings!
@virnagalli2164
@virnagalli2164 7 ай бұрын
Don't forget the aborted fetus in the womb!
@castorrivasiribarren6855
@castorrivasiribarren6855 9 ай бұрын
Congratulations, Joey. Your powerful speech encourages us vegans to persevere and reaches more and more people open to questioning systems of oppression and their beliefs.
@benmrgamw681
@benmrgamw681 9 ай бұрын
You should look up the harvard study alone of joey and his high soy diet which is harmful to men and more so to boys the younger they get due to the anti-nutrients in soy and all legumes and many vegan food options.. These anti-nutrients not only block full absorption of nutrients, protein, calcium, zinc, iron etc but also lower sperm in men as well as cause possible developmental issues with babies.. If you love your child please don't take these crazy risks. Eat what is natural and healthiest, not processed junk, high carb unhealthy and harmful vegan diets.
@byMRTNjournals
@byMRTNjournals 9 ай бұрын
Veganism is for the childless. Enjoy
@BenJohnson-oz8dl
@BenJohnson-oz8dl 9 ай бұрын
How is feeding the most nutrional superfoods in healthy meats bad? You understand it's best for a babies brain and bevelopment? You understand the amount of anti-nutrients in legumes, especially soy, Lentils and many other of your foods with chemical compounds like genistein, lectins, phytates and more but more importantly is phytoestrogens which effect men sp3rm, just search "harvard study soy sp3rm loss" too see the effects and understand that it effects younger people and kids far more. It's okay in moderation but vegans rely on it while normal eaters have superfood meats that are impossible to replicate in a healthy diet with pasture raised meats.. It's scientifically impossible. There are SO many reasons not to go vegan and I can back up all my claims, ask what to search for and I'll tell you.
@michaelwalsh9145
@michaelwalsh9145 9 ай бұрын
You stick to your rabbit food diet and let everyone else eat a proper balanced diet.
@sgtKRILLEX
@sgtKRILLEX 9 ай бұрын
@@michaelwalsh9145I can’t wait till they start limiting how much your beer belly can eat I’ll be laughing for eternity as you cry like a little baby pig😂
@Stay1967k
@Stay1967k 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for highlighting the terrible plight of animals! Really appreciate your hard work ❤
@thekecando8295
@thekecando8295 9 ай бұрын
Dear Joey, I would like to congratulate you on your career. You spent your youth in an environment from which very few end up at Oxford and make an enormously important contribution to animal rights. All the best to you and your loved ones in the new year. Keep it up 👍
@beakalin3923
@beakalin3923 9 ай бұрын
What an impressive and true speech! Thanks Joey Carbstrong! Your words have been heard! End speciesism!🙏🌱💚
@StormStrum
@StormStrum 9 ай бұрын
Does this apply to all living creatures or just the ones you like?
@beakalin3923
@beakalin3923 9 ай бұрын
@@StormStrum What does veganism means?
@StormStrum
@StormStrum 9 ай бұрын
@@beakalin3923 what does omnivore mean?
@lobovutare
@lobovutare 9 ай бұрын
​@@StormStrumit means having a choice, unlike a carnivore. You can choose to minimize the harm you do to animals or you can choose to continue the needless violence.
@borna1897
@borna1897 9 ай бұрын
​@@lobovutare veganism is abuse to humans? How can you think we can suddenly change the way of eating Just look at this joey carbstrong guy
@chrismoltisanti
@chrismoltisanti 9 ай бұрын
Well done, Joey! Intellectually and morally, veganism is the only way to create a hopeful future.
@thuglifeinventor
@thuglifeinventor 9 ай бұрын
Just imagine someone being born as animal after death, what a terrible life, non vegans are not only cruel for animals but humanity as well
@longevitycoach1573
@longevitycoach1573 9 ай бұрын
Such a STUPIDITY, talk to not longer vegan if you wanna know it better.
@foebelboo
@foebelboo 9 ай бұрын
@@benmrgamw681 no thanx i will gladly disagree
@seanogorman3617
@seanogorman3617 9 ай бұрын
@@benmrgamw681you are down one hell of a rabbit hole dude. Lay off the carnivore channels
@JB.zero.zero.1
@JB.zero.zero.1 9 ай бұрын
@@benmrgamw681 You might want to take another look at those soy studies, they have been discredited an multiple occasions when placed under scrutiny. Regarding the other animal foods you list, it has already been demonstrated that we can obtain sufficient nutrients from plants. Obviously we also need to supplement if we only eat plants, so most vegans have fortified foods or take a B12 supplement. There is nothing wrong with soya products - unless, like any food, you eat a ludicrous excess daily, which really isn't feasible. The concept of pasture raised meats and wild caught fish is pie in the sky nonsense. With 8+ billion humans, many of whom demand cheap cuts of meat to satisfy their economic profile and desire, that system will never service those needs. That lifestyle choice is niche and incredibly expensive in most ordinary circumstances.
@TheMindProjection
@TheMindProjection 9 ай бұрын
Way before I went vegan a hare krishna fellow told me. "The language of love cannot be uttered by a bloodied tongue". That always stuck with me. Anyway, good job, Joey.
@mellowboogie
@mellowboogie 9 ай бұрын
Joey that was really beautifully said. I get so tired of constantly hearing only environmental and health perspectives when the Ethics are pushed to the back , despite being the reason most vegans made the change.
@hghyfyfiugou4448
@hghyfyfiugou4448 9 ай бұрын
Hyenas rip unborn animals out of their mother's womb and eat them alive in front of her as she struggles and then gets eaten herself. Is that not ethical? Should the big, bad hyenas stop it? Every vegan I've known as went back to meat. I still remember the words after they ate a steak pie of it being "The best thing I've eaten in ages." after many years of being a hardcore vegan LOL!
@Wayne_Stream
@Wayne_Stream 8 ай бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong
@haveigonemad7701
@haveigonemad7701 9 ай бұрын
Never change who you are Joey, Your speeches are always powerful and heartwarming, animals deserve so much better. I look forward to seeing what else you bring in 2024 ❤
@hghyfyfiugou4448
@hghyfyfiugou4448 9 ай бұрын
Do the animals who get torn open by hyenas and their unborn children torn from their wombs and eaten alive in front of the struggling, helpless mother who then gets eaten herself deserve better? Should the hyenas stop it because it's morally bad?
@chloeharrison4928
@chloeharrison4928 9 ай бұрын
@@hghyfyfiugou4448it’s a bit of a different scenario. Hyenas don’t have a moral compass, humans do.
@ruthsmith1694
@ruthsmith1694 8 ай бұрын
All animals in the wild who are carnivors do so to survive and have no other choices, we as humans and who are not carnivors have plenty of healthy food choices.@@hghyfyfiugou4448
@janelarsen4788
@janelarsen4788 8 ай бұрын
​​@@chloeharrison4928 ohh yes all animals have moral and compassion like humans, but vegans cant see that, because hypocrite vegans are scared of everything 🤮👎🤦‍♀️😡
@letshugandlove324
@letshugandlove324 7 ай бұрын
@@chloeharrison4928 can you eat hyenas before they eat another animal? then you can save more animals from gruesome painful death.
@stephendiggines9122
@stephendiggines9122 8 ай бұрын
I find it very strange when eating with others, they get angry and upset when I ask "how's your dead bird/sheep/pig?".
@broskicommando12
@broskicommando12 8 ай бұрын
Ikr, it’s what it is though.
@nonalien-l1n
@nonalien-l1n 9 ай бұрын
Great speech, Joey. Hopefully people will take this on board and act.
@Wayne_Stream
@Wayne_Stream 8 ай бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong all so has a crimminal record
@nonalien-l1n
@nonalien-l1n 8 ай бұрын
@@Wayne_Stream stop living in the past
@Bricefriha
@Bricefriha 8 ай бұрын
@@Wayne_Stream No shit dude? OMG, I DIDN'T KNOW!!!! He absolutely don't remind everyone that he was a criminal in everysingle of his speeches (including this one) /s I love when imbeciles think they are super claver, it's illarious
@johanna.j7195
@johanna.j7195 6 ай бұрын
@@Wayne_Stream but he has changed and he is a useful loving person now. unlike you. Hater
@donnie1725
@donnie1725 4 ай бұрын
​@@Wayne_Streamhe has talked about this extensively himself. It's no secret
@heatherdyett9119
@heatherdyett9119 9 ай бұрын
What an accurately worded and powerful speech! Love to see this and will share far and wide! Congratulations and thank you so much Joey! 💚🌱
@anderfigueroa2466
@anderfigueroa2466 9 ай бұрын
This was written and spoken so eloquently in such a short amount of time. Joey manages to cover and unarm every foolish justification to do with morality that pops into a carnist’s mind as they listen with an overwhelming amount of cognitive dissonance. Fucking legend this guy.
@Wayne_Stream
@Wayne_Stream 8 ай бұрын
he is all so a convited crimminal with a crimminal record en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong
@chantellerosebud1780
@chantellerosebud1780 8 ай бұрын
@@Wayne_StreamJoey is very open about his past and is living a very different life now. His troubled past was part of the journey which led him to become the moral activist he is today.
@Wayne_Stream
@Wayne_Stream 8 ай бұрын
@@chantellerosebud1780 whats moral about forceing your way of life down the thrughts of others by forceing i mean corseing prpole into being vegan by manipulation ie Reverse psychology if you dont know what Reverse psychology heres what it means Reverse psychology is a technique involving the assertion of a belief or behavior that is opposite to the one desired, with the expectation that this approach will encourage the subject of the persuasion to do what is actually desired
@Serendipity-gj2me
@Serendipity-gj2me 9 ай бұрын
Great work Joey Carbstrong, and so well spoken! It's a speech to be remembered.
@sarastone8235
@sarastone8235 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant speech Joey, clear, concise, and powerful 👏👏👏
@franciscachesca
@franciscachesca 9 ай бұрын
Well spoken 🙏 thank you. Let's stop animal cruelty together. Let's unite and support eachother.
@virnagalli2164
@virnagalli2164 7 ай бұрын
How about fetus cruelty!
@georgemioch8981
@georgemioch8981 7 ай бұрын
yes, let's sentence all the animals that we would have eaten to never being born... how cruel
@TuorUlmondil
@TuorUlmondil 9 ай бұрын
Great speech! Thank you, Joey!
@Slaine_OP
@Slaine_OP 8 ай бұрын
How can anyone argue this? Ashamed to be human
@asdasdgcgfg9107
@asdasdgcgfg9107 8 ай бұрын
Plants don't have: Vitamins A, B6 (pyridoxal, pyridoxamine), B12, D, F, K2 Amino acids: creatine, carnitine, carnosine, taurine Heme-iron, CoQ10, Cholesterol, CLA
@SafavidAfsharid3197
@SafavidAfsharid3197 8 ай бұрын
Why?
@andreasvandieaarde
@andreasvandieaarde 7 ай бұрын
Wait, argue in favor of being vegan or argue *against* it?
@benjy3656
@benjy3656 9 ай бұрын
Amazingly powerful speech, thanks for all the work you do Joey. 8 years deep into Veganism and have never looked back!
@janem5900
@janem5900 8 ай бұрын
A speech powered by sincere passion and empathy for nonhuman animals. Thank you Joey
@jallen911
@jallen911 9 ай бұрын
The meat, dairy and egg industries lies are slowly eroding. Truth, ethics and justice for animals will prevail 🌱🌱🌱
@virnagalli2164
@virnagalli2164 7 ай бұрын
How about justice for the aborted human!!
@Ryan_Rothford
@Ryan_Rothford 9 ай бұрын
Well done sir! Thank you so much for your courage, bravery and honesty. You make the world a better place for humans and animals alike! ✌🏼❤️🌱
@jaimefazackerley
@jaimefazackerley 9 ай бұрын
Amazing Joey. Very well said and moving speech. Thank you for speaking up for the animals!
@PauIdenino
@PauIdenino 9 ай бұрын
Joey is a hero 🌱
@Wayne_Stream
@Wayne_Stream 8 ай бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong all so has a crimminal record
@Creepavore
@Creepavore 8 ай бұрын
No Joey is a crazy activist.
@RuberSocks
@RuberSocks 9 ай бұрын
Simple as that. Treat others how you would want to be treated folks.
@letshugandlove324
@letshugandlove324 9 ай бұрын
exactly! let people eat what they think is healthy, there health choice! you want to control other peoples health choices?
@RuberSocks
@RuberSocks 9 ай бұрын
@@letshugandlove324 I'm sure you would love to legalize dog meat as well wouldn't you.
@letshugandlove324
@letshugandlove324 9 ай бұрын
@@RuberSocks you don't know very much do you?
@RuberSocks
@RuberSocks 9 ай бұрын
@@letshugandlove324 been vegan 9 years bud. There's no magic chemical in animals that compels me to insert them into my mouth.
@OfficialEDirty
@OfficialEDirty 9 ай бұрын
@@letshugandlove324you can be perfectly healthy on a vegan diet.
@Liurika
@Liurika 9 ай бұрын
Just brilliant Joey. Thank you for speaking loud and clear in defense of these innocent animals ❤
@virnagalli2164
@virnagalli2164 7 ай бұрын
And the innocence in the womb!!
@py16667
@py16667 9 ай бұрын
Joey is such a legend
@PLANTBASEDNEWS
@PLANTBASEDNEWS 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Joey, thank you GenV.
@JJ-zf1nq
@JJ-zf1nq 8 ай бұрын
Thankyou Joey for your speech. The only outcome is that the house should be vegan. The systematic domination, enslavement & mass killing of animals has to Stop. I have stood with you and other’s who care outside slaughterhouses and seen & heard the fear and sadness in animals about to be killed & it is heartbreaking. So thankyou for raising this at the Oxford union & never stop fighting for the right’s of animals. ✊🏼
@MargheritaOrsoPletti
@MargheritaOrsoPletti 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Joey for being their voice ❤
@penyorfeas84
@penyorfeas84 9 ай бұрын
Well done! Compassion is the only path ❤❤
@elizabethdean0187
@elizabethdean0187 9 ай бұрын
So well spoken, Joey. Carry on. Many of us are behind you doing our collective bit to wake people up and bring and end to this atrocity. Professor-Elizabeth
@lisapilmore6421
@lisapilmore6421 8 ай бұрын
That was an outstanding speech Joey, thanks for everything you are doing for the animals and also the human animals,people are beginning to open up their minds to the atrocities of animal farming!!Happy New Year to everybody that are vegan for the animals!💚💫
@evenpetersen3569
@evenpetersen3569 9 ай бұрын
You are a gift joey. Unapologetically explaining the horrors of animal exploitation.
@Flobb1t
@Flobb1t 9 ай бұрын
Joey, with an actual well laid out argument, unlike one of the oppositions drunken lie filled rant.
@tldrttyl
@tldrttyl 9 ай бұрын
Joey, this is nothing short of amazing. This is up there with Gary Yurovsky’s early speeches that led me to go vegan 7 years ago. Well done 👏
@Assassin99584
@Assassin99584 9 ай бұрын
Gary is a terrorist
@hghyfyfiugou4448
@hghyfyfiugou4448 9 ай бұрын
Hyenas rip unborn animals out of their mother's womb and eat them alive in front of her as she struggles and then gets eaten herself. Shouldn't they feel morally bad and go vegan?
@emmaglasgow3786
@emmaglasgow3786 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, Joey. It's a weight off the soul to see the battle for animal lives fought so eloquently. This must take a massive toll on you. Thank you for your selfless efforts, which mean so much to us!
@hghyfyfiugou4448
@hghyfyfiugou4448 9 ай бұрын
Should hyenas stop tearing open the wombs of mother animals, ripping out their unborn children and eating them in front of her as she lays helpless and then eaten?
@Wayne_Stream
@Wayne_Stream 8 ай бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong all so has a crimminal record
@emmaglasgow3786
@emmaglasgow3786 8 ай бұрын
@@Wayne_Stream The people present at that debate ended up voting in favour of veganism. That was largely thanks to Joey's speech. The priority is the liberation of animals from torture. Joey's efforts to affect progress in favour of animal rights are to be commended.
@jeanmorris6601
@jeanmorris6601 9 ай бұрын
100% vegan for the animals . Great speech Joey 💚🌱
@jakedub1497
@jakedub1497 9 ай бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Joey is a true hero.
@Wayne_Stream
@Wayne_Stream 8 ай бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Carbstrong all so has a crimminal record
@dbr2802
@dbr2802 8 ай бұрын
@@Wayne_Stream Why does this matter? It has no relevance to veganism at all..
@melaniehall279
@melaniehall279 9 ай бұрын
Well done Joey, amazing! 👏🏻
@carolynmcclenaghan8278
@carolynmcclenaghan8278 9 ай бұрын
Excellent speech. Well done joey.
@liawilbourn
@liawilbourn 9 ай бұрын
Beautiful, powerful, perfect. Love you Joey! Thank you! 👏👏👏💚💚💚
@firangele8094
@firangele8094 8 ай бұрын
Excellent, Joey!!! Thank you for all you do for the animals 🐷 ❤I have been vegan for six year now. I feel happy about not hurting animals, healthy and happy. ❤🙏
@mntryjoseph1961
@mntryjoseph1961 9 ай бұрын
Excellent speech, well done.
@Phoenixrises89
@Phoenixrises89 9 ай бұрын
THANKYOU Joey… you’re the voice for the voiceless…❤
@karentaylor4632
@karentaylor4632 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely 💯 spot on, brilliantly portrayed for all animals. Such an advocate.💚🌱
@justcallmeflora
@justcallmeflora 9 ай бұрын
Joey, thank you for fighting for those who dont have a voice. So grateful you exist
@photorealistica
@photorealistica 9 ай бұрын
It blows my mind that it's still controversial to be vegan. It's a small action we all can take to change the world for better. True change starts within and we can all easily participate.
@JB.zero.zero.1
@JB.zero.zero.1 9 ай бұрын
Culture notoriously digs it's heels in, and actual change, especially what appears to be more radical, can take decades, or centuries. It is very frustrating when there are issues we need to address now - as I type. Most people really don't care about these issues.
@Competitive_Antagonist
@Competitive_Antagonist 9 ай бұрын
Its controversial because these people are so incredibly unpleasant, that people want to eat more meat just to spite them. To them, anyone not spending all their money and free time trying to make a new diet work, is evil. We're just trying to live our lives and most of us have too much on our plate to conform to the lifestyle of people that hate us. TLDR; The worst thing about veganism are the vegans.
@jamesjackson5020
@jamesjackson5020 9 ай бұрын
It's not controversial
@iamrocketray
@iamrocketray 9 ай бұрын
I can't manage veganism but I'm a vegetarian and have been for the last 40 years😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
@Lorenzo_That_Vegan_Dad
@Lorenzo_That_Vegan_Dad 9 ай бұрын
Not good enough. Dairy is the meat industry, worse even.​@@iamrocketray
@lambiemum
@lambiemum 8 ай бұрын
Such a powerful speech. Thank you so much. Speciesism must end. 💚
@Hetfield99
@Hetfield99 9 ай бұрын
Wow wow wow, so so sooo good Joey!!! Thank you for everything you do. You truly are changing the times. You’re brave and the voice for these innocent victims
@ChaseAvior
@ChaseAvior 9 ай бұрын
The Vegan Beyond Burger creates 90% less greenhouse gas emissions, uses 99% less water, 93% less land, and requires 46% less energy than a beef burger. - University of Michigan
@Justin-lr6yf
@Justin-lr6yf 9 ай бұрын
why do they cost more then if they are easier to make in every way
@fromeveryting29
@fromeveryting29 9 ай бұрын
It's a no-brainer. Imagine if we went to the clothing store, and right next to each other hung two almost identical sweaters. They even cost almost the same. But on one it said "created by fairly paid, unionized workers verified by human rights organizations", and the other one you knew for a FACT was made by child-laborers who were shot if they didn't keep the production up. Still, most people chose the horrible one because it was socially embarassing to be seen with an "ethical" piece of clothing that looked marginally different. That's the moral equivalent to me. It's SOOOOO damn easy and obvious what to do in that situation. Create a damn new norm that said "individuals lives are worth more than my social comfort". It's not even about the direct econimical impact of one individual. It's about the ethical message and norm you create for your society. A political, social, ethical, healthy choice, as opposed to a cowardly and reactionary choice.
@giorgipiorgi
@giorgipiorgi 9 ай бұрын
Who’d eat that trash?
@ijumaaproductions
@ijumaaproductions 9 ай бұрын
also is not human food, i know vegans don't care about nature or humans, but c'mon man, it is toxic for us.
@perijon00
@perijon00 9 ай бұрын
That’s why you shouldn’t trust the UofM
@teresajose2280
@teresajose2280 9 ай бұрын
LOVE THIS! Brilliant words as always. Thank you for speaking up Joey. The time for people to evolve is NOW. 🌱
@Assassin99584
@Assassin99584 9 ай бұрын
Inadequate diet isn’t evolution
@jjradV
@jjradV 9 ай бұрын
Excellent speech Joey ! There is no justification for not being Vegan !!
@Assassin99584
@Assassin99584 9 ай бұрын
Why should I restrict myself
@paultishler6013
@paultishler6013 9 ай бұрын
@@Assassin99584why should you support the torture and murder of innocent animals.
@LisaCooper-thevegan-123
@LisaCooper-thevegan-123 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Joey. Your the man😊✌️🙏♥️♥️♥️
@arkledale
@arkledale 9 ай бұрын
WELL DONE JOEY! Much love and support from Adelaide.
@ericchristen2623
@ericchristen2623 8 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Killing animals is repulsive.
@joannehart5085
@joannehart5085 9 ай бұрын
A powerful and heartfelt speech thank you x
@tomfletcher_ve3
@tomfletcher_ve3 9 ай бұрын
Incredible Speech Joey! Well done! all my support to you and all animals 🙌
@Nature-s7g
@Nature-s7g 9 ай бұрын
You just made me Vegan, bro. Very well done 👍 thank you very much
@ijumaaproductions
@ijumaaproductions 9 ай бұрын
you are easily brainwashed
@veganmeditations
@veganmeditations 9 ай бұрын
So amazing you're taking that step to veganism!
@ijumaaproductions
@ijumaaproductions 9 ай бұрын
@@veganmeditations what is amazing about malnutrition?
@Nature-s7g
@Nature-s7g 9 ай бұрын
@@ijumaaproductionswhat's amazing is not contributing to murder of innocence anymore
@PlumpSort
@PlumpSort 9 ай бұрын
@@ijumaaproductions Does Joey look malnourished to you? Obviously humans can be vegan and healthy if they make sure to get all their required nutrients.
@donnypicz
@donnypicz 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely spot on. Thank you Joey for speaking the truth.
@KerryHopkins
@KerryHopkins 9 ай бұрын
I’m vegan as of June 2022 after researching things since 2016. We must stop hurting these gentle herbivores. We also thrive on plants and fruit and beans and pulses and nuts. The strongest animals in the world who live the longest are vegan too. Use your sense.
@Assassin99584
@Assassin99584 9 ай бұрын
Wrong
@TheRoarWithin
@TheRoarWithin 9 ай бұрын
This is a really fantastic hard-hitting speech. Joey is undeniably the hardest working and consistently most committed animal rights activist online. Props to the guy.
@michaelwalsh9145
@michaelwalsh9145 9 ай бұрын
Joey is making plenty soft money off his like minded followers, the man never worked a day in his life.
@GrantH2606
@GrantH2606 9 ай бұрын
​@@michaelwalsh9145Activism is work whether you like it or not, and Joey is one of the biggest activists out there
@michaelwalsh9145
@michaelwalsh9145 9 ай бұрын
@@GrantH2606 his activism involves annoying people that actually work.
@ruthsmith1694
@ruthsmith1694 8 ай бұрын
@@michaelwalsh9145 Joey`s work/career of animal activism is very admirable which he is fully committed and dedicated to and is really good at. I can think of many many paid jobs and careers which people do which are not!
@MarcOCymru
@MarcOCymru 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic speech, I was hung on every word and felt proud to be vegan. Thank you 🌱 ✊
@traceybaucom5755
@traceybaucom5755 9 ай бұрын
So proud of you Joey. It's extremely hard to do what you do. Takes strength beyond what others possess. If we all could stand so strong we could end this abomination now.
@veganpowerlab
@veganpowerlab 9 ай бұрын
Amazing speech. It’s awful what we do to animals. The least the governments can do is lead by example and go vegan. Animals deserve to live! Thanks for speaking up for them, Joey!
@benmrgamw681
@benmrgamw681 9 ай бұрын
We definitely need to strive for better farming practices and I'd say get rid of practices that cause harm to animals for a bag etc but I digress, pasture raised and organic meats or wild caught fish is what we should all be consuming, these are the most nutrionally packed superfoods on earth that can't be replicated in veg or fruit and especially not carbs. The harms of a high soy and legume diet has already been shown by harvard and more. Stop pushing unhealthy and harmful diets on babies and children that are easily tricked. Let adults make the choice of feelings over health.
@BenJohnson-oz8dl
@BenJohnson-oz8dl 9 ай бұрын
Are you not worried about proteins? Meats are full of them and are good for us, plants are lower in quality and far less. High carbohydrates is also not good at all. For the health of everyone we should eat a varied diet.
@veganpowerlab
@veganpowerlab 9 ай бұрын
@@BenJohnson-oz8dl there’s plenty of sources of plant protein. I eat on a daily basis at least 200g of protein. As for any other dietary concern (high carb, high fat, low fat etc): they’re all diets. They can be healthy in some cases and unhealthy in other cases. A varied diet rich in complex carbohydrates, high in fiber and with enough protein and unsaturated fat is, I believe, the current standard of health. Veganism is a moral stance against animal cruelty. The plant based diet that follows is merely a consequence of it.
@JB.zero.zero.1
@JB.zero.zero.1 9 ай бұрын
@@BenJohnson-oz8dl I don't think you know what protein is, by the sounds of it. 200 grams of lentils (for instance) which are dirt cheap, is packed full of protein. You say "lower quality" - but I bet without looking you wouldn't be able to qualify that statement. Complex carbohydrates are fine for humans, we have used these for 1000s of years. I agree that we ideally need to have a varied diet - but that isn't always possible, regardless of dietary pathway.
@BenJohnson-oz8dl
@BenJohnson-oz8dl 9 ай бұрын
@@veganpowerlab plant proteins that are rich in phytoestrogens.. Do you not know what that can do to males? Not only to males but young boys will have been effected more because their body can't tolerate it so much. You don't have that problem when eating meat and obviously I'm not talking about bacon or sausages, real meat that has so much of what our body likes without the many anti nutrients that plants have which block absorption of protein and more. Humans are omnivores, vegans will not and can not change this. This is all pretty easily found information.
@clairknobloch
@clairknobloch 9 ай бұрын
The greatest speech you'll ever hear. Be vegan for the animals now!
@benmrgamw681
@benmrgamw681 9 ай бұрын
Eat and feed your family the healthiest diet you can, and that is a healthy diet with pasture raised meats, low to moderate carbs and healthy fats.. No UPF, seed oils, fast foods, high sugar diets etc etc. If you love your children then think first before feeding them a high soy and legume diet that leads to much lower sp3rm levels, can be damaging for development especially soy formula which is also high in aluminum.. So many reason not to get into this diet and happy to list them.
@EveOfSpring
@EveOfSpring 9 ай бұрын
@@benmrgamw681 😂😂
@giorgipiorgi
@giorgipiorgi 9 ай бұрын
I’ll eat meat for my own health, thanks
@Vegan_4The_Animals
@Vegan_4The_Animals 9 ай бұрын
​@@benmrgamw681misinformation!! vegan blood work and peer-reviewed studies show otherwise than what you're claiming. I have a few vegan blood work videos in my public playlist.
@EveOfSpring
@EveOfSpring 9 ай бұрын
@@giorgipiorgi 🤣🤣🤡
@letsplog
@letsplog 9 ай бұрын
Amazing Joey...you said it all...so true 😢
@becominge
@becominge 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Joey! You’re a legend! ❤
@Raycarlo1989
@Raycarlo1989 9 ай бұрын
Amazing as always brother ❤
@ChaseAvior
@ChaseAvior 9 ай бұрын
Animals deserve protection.
@PeaceBeginsOnYourPlate
@PeaceBeginsOnYourPlate 9 ай бұрын
Such a powerful speech Joey! 🔥
@evemae6819
@evemae6819 9 ай бұрын
Well said Joey! awesome speech thank you so much for speaking up for the creatures and bringing yourself to first hand witness their suffering and inform us as to the horrors of they endure.
@MelikeToptan
@MelikeToptan 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for speaking loud and clear in defense of these innocent animals and future of humanity💚🍀🌱
@Pian0Arpeggi0s
@Pian0Arpeggi0s 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for speaking up for the voiceless 🙏🏽🌱🌱👏🏽👏🏽🥲
@cecevirda6833
@cecevirda6833 9 ай бұрын
👏🏾 amazing speech 👏🏾 ❤
@soilikasanen
@soilikasanen 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the fight for good.
@jameszivai1481
@jameszivai1481 9 ай бұрын
There is no argument that animals aren’t sentient beings. Shouldn’t this be common knowledge?????
@littleredpony6868
@littleredpony6868 8 ай бұрын
I’m taking it that you haven’t talked much with young earth creationists
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