Vegetarian fights back against vegan

[@ed.winters]

Sahil argues his stance as a vegetarian and states that there isn't a strong argument to change to veganism. He also challenges me on pushing the morals of veganism on others. What arguments have you heard from vegetarians before? I.D.E.A. Studios launch collection is available now to order to your home! 🚀 weareideastudios.com - thank you so much for your support! 🌱 If you find my work at universities valuable, you can become a regular supporter or make a one-off contribution through the following links (thank you!): earthlinged.org/support & patreon.com/earthlinged 📚 Order my best-selling book This is Vegan Propaganda (& Other Lies the Meat Industry Tells You) here: earthlinged.org/orderbook 🎤 Organise a speech or presentation at your company/education establishment: earthlinged.org/contact

[@VeganV5912]

Chimp : Only 2-3% mainIy insects, and occasionally maIes will kiII monkeys. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJeznZmYh8SYqrM .. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGWxpICfhLKgebs .. Peer review science !!!! Wonder why 🤪🦠🍖🔴🐒. Hint hint, World War 1 and II and Vietnam and killing innocent people.... Micro biome is different if you eat animals and their secretions. No fibre, if you eat animals and their secretions.. PH. is different. Peer review science !!!! GoriIIas are plant based they never ever eat animals. 5 times as strong as chimpanzees PH-4 🤪🦠🍖🔴 !!! And they are peaceful, gentle animals. Vegans are kind and thoughtful, PH.7-10 is different, good bacteria, Herbivorous ✅❤️🦠🙂. Peer review science too !!!!

[@VeganV5912]

.. Like CharIes Man🖕son. Proxy killing... 👈🤥🍖🔴.... 🙄. Over a burger. 5 minute burger !! Animals life gone for good !! 🤦🏼‍♂️ Twice a Coooooooo-ward !!!! Hypoooocrite. Big time. I was a hypocrite. But now I’m vegan. Don’t hurt animals. Simple really. ✅🤷🏼‍♂️. KZbin delicious vegan food. Time to change.... ✅ kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4elpJuvlLGYrLs ..

[@VeganV5912]

.. 6 hours !!!! 🔴🦌🤮 10 days or more sitting inside your stomach puuuu-trifying !!!! No fibre if you eat animaIs in their secretions !!! Time-Iapse. kzbin.info/www/bejne/op62o4isnLycp6c ... 🤮.. That’s why I am vegan !!! Your teeth are fIat 😬. And your stomach is very, very long, “combined length of the small and large intestines is at least 15 ft in Iength”. We are herbivores. The ape family ✅❤️😬💪🦍 GorilIas never ever eat animaIs, they are huge !! 98.6% the same as us !!! And I’ve gotten bigger and stronger and fitter on a plant-based diet. Scientific fact !!! Fat deposits cIog the arteries, eating animaIs and their secretions. Deooodorant mask the symptoms but the shoes and socks and armpits.. 🍳🍖🍔...🦠🧟‍♂️👕🧦🥾🤮. KZbin deIicious vegan food. It’s time to change ✅😉..

[@VeganV5912]

Behavioural ‘omnivores’, is a heart attack and cancer and high blood pressure, fat deposits clog the arteries everywhere, Limp👇🧟‍♂️🦠🍖🔴Diiick eating Cooorpses 🛏💔🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️ .. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXyap3mImKdros0 .. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jp67qqF6gdCVjrs 😂🤣😂😂

[@VeganV5912]

You hurt innocent animals for a 5 minute burger etc ??. Cutting down the rainforest for cows and chicken etc, over a freaking burger etc. 10 times as much grains 🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾 for one steak 🥩 !!!! That is Eviiil !!!! “Since 1978, over 289,000 square Miles, of Amazon rainforest have been destroyed” kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpLIc2eOgtuNia8 . You can have vegan hamburgers and vegan chicken and vegan pizza and vegan curry and vegan burritos etc. KZbin delicious vegan food. Which side of history are you on ?? Time to change ✅😉

[@bethany9939]

The second you say "vegan", everyone all of a sudden becomes a plant activist.

[@ponnamy]

LOL! Well said!

[@GeddyRC]

Funny, I haven't heard about a single "plant rights rally" so it seems those people are actually full of shit!

[@evilsdirtylittlesister4299]

Believes the preachers-> cult behaviour. Strongly defends beliefs-> cult behaviour. Refute science in beliefs-> cult behaviour. Shares beliefs uninvited-> cult behaviour. Preaches to vulnerable-> cult behaviour. Donates to preachers-> cult behaviour. Politicises group beliefs-> cult behaviour. Mocks non-believers-> cult behaviour. Simplifies natural events-> cult behaviour. Falsely correlates events-> cult behaviour. Feels superior in beliefs-> cult behaviour. Beliefs for ‘greater good’-> cult behaviour.

[@PauIdenino]

And nutrition experts

[@thegratefulsteve]

If one was truly a plant activist they would be vegan already. The same as if one was an environmentalist they would already be vegan. And if one was a feminist they would already be vegan. And even broader if one was a leftist or progressive they would already be vegan.

[@sarahidhaley14]

When he said his convinince was more important than the sufferingn of others It was over for him, he is the same as omnivores, he is vegetarian just because he was born that way.

[@heyalun]

I actually thought he raised a good point. He came very close to raising a brilliant point, which is that you’re not just changing your mind, but you’re operating in a meat-eater’s world as a not meat-eater, which can isolate you from family and community.

[@lastlime3792]

Ed is okay with suffering of others by dictating others need to eat vegan, and push to remove sale of animals...

[@billyguyjoe1858]

@@heyalun so we should conform with whatever society does instead of taking a stand against something that is wrong because we will be isolated? I don't think it's a good point lol.

[@tormunnvii3317]

Greatest good for the greatest number baby!!

[@heyalun]

@@billyguyjoe1858 but neither he nor Ed subscribed to a religious worldview that says there’s objective morality. And for someone like me that does, my moral code says eating animals is allowable. So, my question would be: what’s your objective basis for telling me it’s wrong?

[@Rhonda2580]

Good grief, Ed! What a great discussion, and great job, Ed. You were able to calmly and respectfully cause another person to re-examine a key component of their own thinking. Amazing!

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

They don't want you to know this crucial fact so they can keep you running on the hamster wheel nonstop 👉👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥🔥

[@mansouryarow6572]

As you ride a horse..🤨 The irony💀

[@original-australian_OG]

That's what we all love about him. Calm and collective.

[@evilsdirtylittlesister4299]

@@original-australian_OG ed is calculated, conniving and insidious and he preys on the emotions of gullible people with well practised virtue signalling.

[@MilaBelen]

WHY ARE YOU RIDING A HORSE No animal wants to be used!!! Jeez, why admiring Ed when you yourself are exploiting animals Please, stop.

[@anthonyfox477]

Respect to anyone who steps up and tries to win Ed's primary argument (veganism as a moral imperative). It's a pretty air tight position. Nice to see this fellow reconsider his position - that takes a humility that many don't have.

[@evilsdirtylittlesister4299]

If you can think, speak and write you are absolutely deadly. If you cant, youre probably just a vegan.

[@nanashidanny]

@Ryan Robinett And yet Vegan subsistence is a million times better than omnivorous subsistence. Go vegan.

[@zarelli7831]

The vegetarian made a very good point.

[@nanashidanny]

@Ryan Robinett Unfortunately for your short sighted argument, it's not possible or practical for me. Cool story though. Vegamism subsistence is still > than meat subsistence ethically, sorry :)

[@jedex4645]

@@nanashidanny if "possible and practicable" is subjective, any meat eater can be vegan.

[@shebakali6]

As a vegan Hindu, I find it frustrating to find other Hindus who are vegetarian who consume factory farmed dairy and cannot or will not see the suffering that cows go through. Cows are supposed to be sacred and yet they don’t care.

[@berniv7375]

Thank you for being a Vegan Hindu.🌱🐄🌱

[@shebakali6]

@@berniv7375 🙏🏾

[@michaelcolbourn6719]

I found this weird as a friend who is a vegetarian Hindu. she once she said she would let her vegetarian son try meat sometime if he wanted but not beef because of their belief about cow, yet found it weird that they would have the cheese from the same cow that's being abused and killed for burgers. to me it's a bit like saying I won't have fillet steak for moral reasons but I will have rump steak. its just a different cut from the same animal, and cheese is similar.

[@shebakali6]

@@michaelcolbourn6719 dairy is a big part of our culture and religion. Krishna, one of our gods, used to drink dairy and milk is used in our temples eg for Shiva lingam worship. Ghee or clarified butter is used in ayervedic tradition.

[@michaelcolbourn6719]

@@shebakali6 just seems hypocritical to not eat beef because cows are sacred and its harming (if I have that Right?) But still eat cheese which is still harming them, and they get killed. Religion is always contradictory though.

[@Killerkiki313]

These veganism conversations really shine a light on the weakness of humans. We cling to convenience so much that this guy is actually embarrassed by the way he thinks and STILL won’t give it up. It’s not even subconscious. He’s verbally acknowledging that he sounds horrible. But he doesn’t want to “see eggs and go the other way.” I’m going to spend the rest of my life fighting my own inner weakness and cognitive dissonance.

[@adorable3817]

Well said 💙🌳🦋🌟💛

[@evilsdirtylittlesister4299]

Believes the preachers-> cult behaviour. Strongly defends beliefs-> cult behaviour. Refute science in beliefs-> cult behaviour. Shares beliefs uninvited-> cult behaviour. Preaches to vulnerable-> cult behaviour. Donates to preachers-> cult behaviour. Politicises group beliefs-> cult behaviour. Mocks non-believers-> cult behaviour. Simplifies natural events-> cult behaviour. Falsely correlates events-> cult behaviour. Feels superior in beliefs-> cult behaviour. Beliefs for ‘greater good’-> cult behaviour.

[@Killerkiki313]

@@evilsdirtylittlesister4299 what on earth are you talking about?

[@thegratefulsteve]

@@Killerkiki313 i would say the cult of animal exploiters

[@VeganWellnessTribe]

Me too kiki, me too.

[@sskpsp]

This one actually made me laugh out loud. The moral relativity portion is hilarious but the "inconvenience" dialog at 9:22 is just great: "Hello, I would like to sit with you and see if you can change my mind about veganism. However, please note that I will not change my mind because changing my mind requires changing my mind, which I find inconvenient."

[@RENX5]

That's the problem, in most cases they're not going to Ed to learn and possibly change their minds, they're going to voice their justifications and defend them at all costs

[@ZoeyZoco]

Well eating vegan *CAN* be an inconvenience! Especially for poor working class families. Also people in rural areas where there isn’t viable vegan food/options. You can’t hold your moral standards to everyone. Especially third world countries!

[@sskpsp]

@@ZoeyZoco that would be fair if he had said that, but his "inconvenience" was having to change his mind about morality. Also, meat is actually a luxury for most of the world. You may be thinking of food deserts where only processed food is available . In third world countries, people still eat mostly grains, vegetables, beans, etc. which are nutritious and cheap staples. Veganism doesn't necessarily mean fake meat. It is definitely possible to avoid meat while making ends meet.

[@Ararita]

It saddens me that in this day and age people still cling to the "third world countries" excuse, when so many people in third world countries are on plant based diets because they can't afford anything else. Meat-eaters in the west have convinced themselves that surely people in third world countries can't be vegan, and that somehow justifies gorging on burgers. And wtf is this about rural areas with no viable vegan options - what, rural areas don't have beans now? As someone from a poor family and living in a rural area, I find this fucking insulting that this is used as an excuse. This all hinges on the premise that you're eating OUT or buying pre-made meals, and I have never, ever been able to afford either. I'm sick of all these mythical poor people in rural areas that have the money to pay someone else to prepare their food, because they seem to only exist in discussions where meat-eaters that can afford whatever the fuck they want, but keep using these myths to justify abusing animals for their own pleasure.

[@midnitebottleable]

True lol

[@AaronMetallion]

He's so articulate, rational, and intelligent, yet he was employing his entire capacity to defend his contradictions / cognitive dissonance to the point of irrationality. I was like him, and I seemed to always have crafty pseudo-rational counter arguments for everything people threw against me (even if I knew theirs held more merit). It takes time and a lot of 'intellectual humility' but I think people like him (and myself) can reach a point of re-examination, and ultimately evolution. Went vegan overnight 5.5 years ago after being honest with myself, binging hours footage, looking at statistics, and having a 'moment of clarity', and I've never looked back.

[@NikhitaPrabhudesai]

Amen. Same story here. We try to rationalize our actions but it's cognitive dissonance 101.

[@ThePathOfEudaimonia]

Agreed.

[@faith.W]

He was lost in the sauce in his Moral Relativism

[@arissebastiangonzaga3218]

Kudos to vegans if that lifestyle works for u, i like this interviewee, my 2cent, ed should practice his endeavor to convert hin much more the world. Just a suggestion, “ur combative, pushy and arrogant, u should put ur plant shoes (i assume) to the interviewee thats how to get in there heads.. this guys destroying ed’s argument, attacking only his morality? When u have conflicting morals.

[@gurulaghima6518]

I've never eaten meat I was born vegetarian and I can say with confidence that switching from vegetarian to vegan is very easy since most of the work is already done just gotta switch your diary to vegan alternatives The reason why most vegetarians don't go vegan is cheese. It's too addictive

[@gabbe5130]

Once you quit it cheese it’s so gross 🤮 Vegan alternatives taste so much more pure, and they don’t stink

[@snailmailmagic1133]

For me it was milk and ghee (clarified butter). I never had cheese in my life. Rather was always grossed out by it.

[@gayfield420]

@@gabbe5130 ok but have you smelled daiya cheese straight out of the bag 💀

[@ShardstapoRotmg]

​@@gayfield420It's still better than cow cheese tho

[@gayfield420]

@@ShardstapoRotmg oh you're absolutely right

[@jean6453]

Oh that slippery slope where you slide into morality ! So many people, as this guy does, try to avoid thinking through the reality of why it is best to be vegan. Well done Ed.

[@lastlime3792]

Ed pushing his morals into others he says is wrong but then says he’s is okay but your is wrong because he kills animals so they don’t eat the vegetables and you are wrong because you kill animals to eat them for nutrition🧢🥱 Ed want corporate veganism than kills more animals and pollutes the earth and caused malnutrition to humans because he wasn’t to sell books and get kickbacks from corporations. Ed wants to oppressing and control people. He wants to hurt others but when he does it he doesn’t feel it’s immoral🤑.

[@jean6453]

@@lastlime3792 What you just wrote makes zero sense. Try again when you aren't drunk or high on drugs.

[@jimmyobrien8738]

@@jean6453 ok he done a bad job doesn't make veganism the objective moral position now🤦

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

They don't want you to know this crucial fact so they can keep you running on the hamster wheel while filling their pockets 👉👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥🔥

[@jean6453]

@@jimmyobrien8738 Sure it does

[@Dionyzos]

You're either a nihilist (which makes debating rather pointless by definition) or you'll lose a debate against a well educated and eloquent vegan, simple as that. There is literally no argument against veganism I've encountered in my 3 years of research. But you can't blame people for ignorance so keep debating! Socrates put it really well: "There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance."

[@thegratefulsteve]

With knowledge comes responsibility

[@MarkoMood]

Yeah, I mean there's not much to argue about in the first place. The reasons for not being vegan are not much different than reasons for note being anything else. And that reason is usually just lack of care and interest. For example I'm not a golfer because I just don't really care about it enough. For the same reason I'm not vegan. I care about other things more. That's pretty much how everyone is.

[@x-latetv-x6816]

Are you arguing for morality been unchangeable from individuals so everyone has to agree on the same morals that is what Kim jong UN does to his population, he has decided on the morals and everyone must agree or get executed

[@Novenae_CCG]

@@MarkoMood With the difference, of course, that 'not golfing' doesn't have any negative consequences. It's fine if you don't golf, because that's not making anyone suffer. Not being vegan _does_ have very real negative effects. The analogy breaks down pretty quickly.

[@heyalun]

@@MarkoMood yeah, that really is the argument. You can’t make a logically consistent moral argument for veganism, unless the person is Buddhist or something like that. What you have to appeal to is emotion. So, if the person doesn’t care, you either have to try to convince them to care or you have nothing

[@mitkoogrozev]

Did the guy just say at around minute 7 (the vegetarian), that basically if any change in your life takes more than zero effort, even if it's beneficial, he won't do it? Man, we are doomed if everyone was like that in practice. Fortunately it's just something he says, and it's not true in practice.

[@ojk14325b]

Honestly the ending of the conversation shows he's open. A lot of times we argue from a place we never did any preparation for and its because we never considered a lot of the arguments people like Ed raised in the first place. A lot of vegan arguments come from a place of passion, i.e. their heart is in the right place but it's not necessarily going to reach most people.

[@Bluejayhunt]

Yes, he did. He then proceeded to change his entire moral stance on relativism lmao

[@MrJSheppy16]

I don't think he really thinks like that. He's grasping at straws when he says that. You can tell he doesn't believe it as he says it.

[@henri-julien]

@@MrJSheppy16 yeah, it really felt like he was introduced to the concept of moral relativism in college and was "experimenting" with positioning himself as one but eventually will encounter enough sound counter-arguments to change his position. Seems like this is probably the first of many.

[@vikinggeorge7007]

Actually, here you're kind of wrong. Most people do NOT want to change. People are born malicious and not being a carnist, a racist or doing something otherwise "immoral" would mean suppression of internal instincts. I am vegan because I suppressed mine, doesn't mean others will do the same.

[@NeneChan203]

I used to be a big meat, eggs and dairy lover. Then I discovered the atrocities these industries inflict upon animals and went vegan overnight. I also really enjoy food now, eating is a pleasure and my health skyrocketed. Never going back.

[@adamm1633]

I stopped eating meay over night from Joey and his videos, and watching Doninion, I don't think i can give up milk though, but been a year and a half on meat still rocking, eat what ever i want other then meat and still my size and feel healthy, and i still hardly eat just plants lol, just a mind set for me

[@extropiantranshuman]

isn't the food more beautiful too wtih colors!!

[@extropiantranshuman]

@@adamm1633 there's nice options out there for milk - like Ripple pea milk and oat milks. Those're what I drink. I don't see how you can't not give up milk with so many options. If you don't like those they even have plant milk powders. You can always get your calcium from greens if that's the worry and protein from legumes and grains. Or just make your own. I take sunflower seeds and water and blend and drink. It's super cheap, no refrigeration, and tastes really great. I don't even strain it - so I can eat what I drink - something you won't get in milk - but you can strain it too!

[@NeneChan203]

@@extropiantranshuman yes, it's so colorful and so delicious, it tastes bettter, it's healthier, it's just amazing. I love cooking and I love food now haha. Also sorry for the question but I noticed you say to the other person in this thread that you blend sunflower seeds with water: does that give you a beverage similar to milk? Or something entirely different? I've been meaning to start having sunflower seeds and that sounds like an amazing way to integrate them. Thank you in advance and sorry for the sudden question 🙇

[@extropiantranshuman]

@@NeneChan203 feel free to ask whatever questions you want. Yes, it's a replacement for milk - except it tastes like you're drinking the sun! I do this with hazelnuts too - for a hazelnutty taste. Hazelnuts, if you use less water - makes a great sour cream - because it's slightly sour. Walnuts are really sweet surprisingly - and don't work as well for sour cream.

[@PeiPeisMom]

At the end he looked as if this conversation was going to replay over and over in his head until he came to the conclusion that eggs and dairy weren't worth it. I feel like you really concluded at the perfect time for his personal evolution to take place. Very good.

[@CarTa3]

Nah dud, he flat out stated "my convenience and happiness is means more than the suffering and death of an animal." Once your brain is in that territory it's virtually over., there's no coming back.

[@henri-julien]

@@CarTa3 nahh, i don't think so - I was there once as well and I'm well over a year into veganism 🌱

[@mrwallygator501]

I was a vegetarian "for the animals" all my life, the second I learned the truth about the milk and egg industries at age 29, I went vegan overnight. There is absolutely no excuse to consume animal products with all the inevitable horrors that come with said consumption.

[@linds7788]

Something similar happened to me. Once I learned how animals suffer due to the dairy and egg industries, I literally went vegan that day and never looked back.

[@waynemongo]

@@linds7788 i was vegetarian for 20 years while knowing the horror of the dairy and egg racket. That's how long it took me to kick pizza.

[@DuelingPeaks]

Facts. If you're vegetarian for moral reasons, then you should be vegan. This dude is clearly only vegetarian because he was raised as such. If he was raised in a different family, he'd be eating steak and using the same excuses he used here.

[@waynemongo]

@@DuelingPeaks vegetarianism is a step towards reducing the harm you inflict on animals. The same as veganism. It's not a bad thing. As a vegan, there is more that YOU can do to reduce the harm you inflict on animals and humans.

[@DuelingPeaks]

@@waynemongo It's better than eating meat 3 times a day, sure, but it still causes suffering and funds the same industries. Veganism is still morally preferable.

[@veg9097]

Wow, i didn't expect the ending. Props to him for acknowledging his holes in his argument. Ed is such a great activist/speaker/debater.

[@Iloerk]

Also crucial is that the interviewee is not too insecure to admit he was wrong.

[@aSimpleChat]

The tolerance you have when you see their facial expression that says “wait…I’m really not making sense but no one has ever really made me face it”….beautiful.

[@triptripp1873]

Lovely conversation, I'm happy to see people like Sahil constantly thinking and and evolving through discussions and experiences

[@fregger74]

Always amazes me what mental gymnastics people do just to justify not to change, so sad....

[@evilsdirtylittlesister4299]

No one is obligated to change anything to satisfy a vegan.

[@fregger74]

@@evilsdirtylittlesister4299 u don't get it... veganism is not about vegans it is about the animals that you pay for to be tortured and killed...

[@evilsdirtylittlesister4299]

@@fregger74 only according to vegans but thats a dishonest arguement. Its like saying you buy cars then you support car accidents. Its just stupid.

[@DuelingPeaks]

@@evilsdirtylittlesister4299 lmfao no it isn't. Not even close. It's like saying if you pay someone to drive into another person and kill them, you're supporting car accidents. Which would be true. When you buy animal products, you are DIRECTLY supporting animal abuse. It is not just a byproduct. One of the most ridiculous false equivalences I've ever seen.

[@blacksuitedsonic]

@@evilsdirtylittlesister4299 Buying a car doesn't contribute to accidents directly or support them. It only would if you purposely went on the road to cause an accident and that is the intention. But your main intention with a car is not to cause an accident. Nobody in their right mind does that. So buying a car doesn't automatically increase the amount of car accidents caused nor do you support them with your purchase. Usually the idea is to no cause them in the first place. But when you buy meat you are buying the meat with the intention for them to get killed and be your food, that is a fact. So you are supporting people killing animals with your purchase by increasing the demand for it.

[@Charlie-dp5wr]

Another point here that is often missed is that eating from plants does not necessarily always kill the plants. For example, fruits are the reproductive body of a plant that bears seeds. An animal taking the fruit does not kill the plant, but is actually desired by the plant (especially in nature) as defecation will position these seeds elsewhere for a new plants to grow. This is a huge consideration when trying to "draw the line" of sentience.

[@lastlime3792]

Plant doesn’t want to be eaten... that’s why they are poison and have thorns... 🙄

[@triptripp1873]

However that argument can be used against veganism as well. Animals need other animals to eat them to create a balanced ecosystem. So by that logic we could also be eating some animals (aka just do hunting, no animal farming, only some elite few humans would eat those animals and under very strict guidelines), and it wouldn't be morally wrong bc we are contributing to a balanced ecosystem. Sounds kinda ridiculous right. So many problems ride up with this way of thinking. So, it's not about what the plants have evolved to be and how they are supposed to be spread and stuff. It's simply about the conscience and individual experience that animals have. That's the important thing.

[@Charlie-dp5wr]

​@@triptripp1873 I don't see how this is the same argument. An animal doesn't "need" the be eaten, it needs to survive, which last I checked is what this thing called "life" is all about. By that logic - do you, as an animal, need to be eaten too? I guess you would want to be eaten right, you know, for the sake of a balanced ecosystem.

[@mato4334]

@@triptripp1873 and who decides who are the humans worthy of eating animal products?? who decides what humans are ''elite''?? does race play a part in this? money? if its money then, as its become obvious in our age, ''elite'' people, wealthy people dont care about balance, moderation or any of those things, its usually because of that, that they become ''elite''... this doesnt seem like a good argument at all, not only because of that, but because ecosystems tend to balance themselves, without any human intervention, so there wouldnt be any reason to interfere with natural proceses. also... neutering exists, if we are so concerned about certain animals growing their population too much, we could neuter them.

[@vioheubach3112]

I was going to write that.. well said ☺️

[@BaristaWithADog]

That moment when you owned him on the "imposing morality" argument... and you could just see his brain go "ERROR! ERROR!" Beautiful! 👏👏👏

[@Smlindas1]

Fantastic wasn’t it! It was like “mic drop!” 🎤 🙌

[@evanlouis8853]

"Danger, Will Robinson...Danger!"

[@sarahhenning5484]

I cracked up at that moment 😂😂

[@EthanJahnz]

I eat baby brains and drink butter blood

[@sighmahmale]

I don't agree with the vegeterian, but it looked like they had different semantics for the word "impose"

[@t0b3yyy16]

i love that this one goes beyond the regular handful of arguments!

[@DuelingPeaks]

It starts off with "plants are sentient" so I hope you adjusted your expectations 😂

[@t0b3yyy16]

@@DuelingPeaks Yes but other than most people he acutally knows something about the sentience of plants and he clearly knows that it's a bit of a complicated issue while for non-human animals it's very clear that they are sentient in a way way closer to our human sentience.

[@heyalun]

This guy actually had a couple of good points, in my opinion. I haven’t had meat in almost 2 decades and animal products in 5 years. That’s alienated me from others to some extent. And I’m not even vegan. I’ve looked for non-animal options for clothes, particularly suits and shoes. That stuff is inconvenient. I’m honestly not sure it’s worth it if it was just about animals. Going against the grain is a huge cost

[@hannahmitchell87]

@@heyalun What's the issue with suits? Wool?

[@heyalun]

@@hannahmitchell87 for vegans, it’s wool, which exploits animals. For me I sweat in them and they stink in the summer. I don’t like leather because it also stinks and I don’t want to wear a cow’s skin. All of my choices are selfish. I think meat and other animal products are inferior food choices health wise and bring violence into my body.

[@itsdaynesh]

Wow - that exchange on the imposing of morality. Really well done Ed! I am about to upload my latest street interviews with a vegetarian as well, and I also find sometimes those conversations can be more challenging but worthwhile. Cheers!

[@original-australian_OG]

This community, and people like you, give me hope. Do you have a channel we can check out ?

[@itsdaynesh]

@@original-australian_OG thank you so much! I personally was at my wits' end and felt like the best thing I could do to help was make a channel. This account / channel is the one I use (That Vocal Vegan) ☺️

[@richardaurelien4734]

Every time I hear you, Ed, speak, I question myself about my own intelligence. Thank you for keeping me questioning myself because that makes me want to better myself everyday.

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

They don't want you to know this crucial fact so they can keep you running on the hamster wheel while filling their pockets 👉👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥🔥

[@original-australian_OG]

Words don't do justice, to how much I appreciate what you do. I'm beyond grateful and humbled. There's billions of things I love about you, but my 2 favorites would be, how methodically intellectually calm and collective you are, an astute genius. And how respectful you are towards your guests. PS- Hope you enjoy my donation. My love to this community as well.

[@siennad587]

I remember my ignorant days of being a Vegetarian! Until I learned what was really going on. I haven’t gone back since.

[@mistygirl3995]

Ditto, Sienna. I was a poser for almost thirty years. An ex-dairy farmer forced me to see the "light".

[@rebelvgan4579]

Same.

[@waynemongo]

@@mistygirl3995 most of us Vegans were vegetarians once. It's not a bad thing.

[@mato4334]

@@waynemongo its bad if you think consuming dairy or eggs doesnt hurt anyone.

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

They don't want you to know this crucial fact so they can keep you running on the hamster wheel while filling their pockets 👉👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥🔥

[@eveningchaos1]

This guy is super credulous with dubious claims and skeptical with ones that are easy to investigate and research. I think he might just need to mature a bit and get some more life experience. He reminds me of how I was when I was younger with regards to pseudoscientific concepts.

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

They don't want you to know this crucial fact so they can keep you running on the hamster wheel while filling their pockets 👉👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥🔥

[@juliotattoo]

" we have to eat something not someone "

[@ianmarshall9958]

This was one of my favorites. He clearly was influenced by this debate. He seems like a nice young man who has been raised in a culture that is overwhelmingly vegetarian. Unfortunately dairy cows live some of the worst lives within the animal agriculture industry. Vegetarians can be very persistent in believing they are doing enough. Most have no clue what the egg and dairy industries look like. Great debate!

[@dominiquewyatt6704]

You got to understand the transitioning is hard

[@Meester_]

"Don't eat animal products they are literally suffering and dying" "Have you considered that that's inconvenient for me?" Ed has the patience of an absolute Saint, and umatched eloquence.

[@mariamerigold]

Ed! My friend passed you in an airport the other day and it got me really excited lol. How I'd love to sit down and have a chat with you about life!

[@VerdantJedi]

To cut it short, he's being selfish and do not want to give up his way of living, despite knowing how bad the egg and dairy industry is. His arguments are just as bad as the carnists.

[@adorable3817]

Yes!!! I wish Ed would have asked him why he wouldn't eat meat?

[@flexo3333]

'Everybody can have their own morality as long as it doesn't affect others.'

[@DuelingPeaks]

He was so close to getting it.

[@Chepperz]

So long as those others aren't individuals whose exploitation I derive pleasure from of course

[@flexo3333]

@@Chepperz You don't quite get it.

[@lastlime3792]

And only if you choose veganism...all other choices are wrong cause eating meat is too nutritious and doesn’t sell vegan books.

[@Chepperz]

@@flexo3333 it was sarcasm, I was highlighting the same irony that you were. He wishes not to harm other people but doesn't specify why he believes this in the first place and applies appeal to tradition fallacy by saying "it's just how I react/how I grew up". We know that the real reason he does this is not because he thinks that animals shouldn't have any moral consideration, it's that he has done enough mental gymanastics to justify to himself that so long as his convenience and everyday life is built around some leval and socially accepted moral atrocity, that he is justified in continuing to support it.

[@alexzet5543]

Wow Ed you're such a wonderful person. Your appearance has the perfect blend of empathy for those who have not yet found veganism as a moral obligation for themselves and the strong appeal for animal rights. Inspiring as always

[@TBContent24]

This dude honestly believes people live without eating food more than he is skeptical about it?? LOL

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

They don't want you to know this crucial fact so they can keep you running on the hamster wheel while filling their pockets 👉👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥🔥

[@welcomeback2mychannel]

He then later argued that being vegan would mean you wouldn't eat enough. That was my favourite part.

[@SteelPanda220]

@@welcomeback2mychannel I know, that makes no sense. You’re changing what you eat, not eating less.

[@LouisGedo]

*Create a Better 🌎 and a Better You by.............Living Vegan* 💜

[@PerpetuallyAnnoyed]

🙋‍♀🦝

[@WeTheVegans]

Another grounded and intelligent video. Thank you Ed for all of your work. Sending love from my vegan family to you!

[@VeganPixieWarrior]

In all my years of outreach I have never heard this excuse to justify abusing animal. You know that saying "who are you trying to convince" or "I think you protest to much" I think this guy knows he is reaching. Thank you Ed for being so patient

[@BendeMark]

I've finally figured it out, that table possesses all the intelligence you vocalise and your hand is merely a scraping tool to harness the intelligence on that table. You are nothing without that table Ed, sorry to say. I've observed your subjects watching your hand gestures as they harness the powers spread across that table in deathly precision and amazement - like watching an artist painting a masterpiece. I'll at least give you credit for being the table's mouthpiece and doing it so eloquently. Thanks for it :-)

[@AuraSparks]

lol sometimes he really does touch that table like a sacred altar

[@ellielowe330]

so why is he vegetarian again?🤔 i was vegetarian for 23 years and as soon as i found out what happened to the dairy industry i instantly cut out dairy and now have been vegan for 3 years! all these poor animals that are being killed for meat and dairy is appalling/disgusting and i am so sad it still happens!

[@Killerkiki313]

Because 1) He was raised vegetarian (I assume by Indian parents) so it sounds like he doesn’t see meat as “food.” 2) He doesn’t want to stop eating eggs and dairy. Literally, that’s it. He knows what’s wrong with it but just doesn’t want to change, so he won’t.

[@VerdantJedi]

He is a self-centered narcissist, that's why.

[@yungmentalproblems]

I still eat meat and eggs but completely cut out dairy

[@DuelingPeaks]

Literally just because he was raised as one. If he wasn't, he'd be eating meat and using the exact same excuses he used here.

[@gamegirl949]

I haven't met a lot of vegetarians, but it's very strange to see one who doesn't seem to have any consideration for the suffering of animals 🤨

[@iamthepinkylifter]

my mom is this way. she's vegetarian and yet the most anti-vegan person I know. she genuinely believes she cares about animals and then says things like "I'll never give up my leather, I like it too much." always trying to argue with me about how veganism is actually worse for animals to make herself feel better for not wanting to give up buttered boiled vegetables and cheese. gross.

[@basbleupeaunoire]

Yeah, that was the first time I'd seen it, myself. But he's a vegetarian because that's how he was raised - it's his default mode.

[@SteelPanda220]

@@iamthepinkylifter I went from vegetarian to vegan in a second after learning that eggs, dairy, and honey still cause suffering. I can’t believe your mom. Also, f*** leather.

[@mellowboogie]

I really appreciated this guys manner. He never tried to shout Ed down and he was extremely articulate. I liked how he was honest about the convenience factor. I think he will be vegan one day.

[@jonny2426]

"the inconvenience imposed on people by trying to change their worldview is morally wrong!" Interesting take while being a student at a university. Shouldn't he also object to education then?

[@carnismiscancer2108]

Veganism is rising and thriving while carnism is trying and dying! Keep fighting vegans! CHARGE!!!!

[@LouisGedo]

👋

[@carnismiscancer2108]

@@LouisGedo 👋👋

[@adorable3817]

I wish that were true, but unfortunately carnism is on the rise. More meat than ever is being consumed. 😞

[@carnismiscancer2108]

@@adorable3817 cope

[@chuckybang]

These spam posts are cancer

[@martinaarmani]

Ed not hesitating to change someone's entire life philosophy in a conversation

[@distermaer]

"Opposing your morality is wrong but I'll impose my morality on others when it suits me ofc." Some people just need to take a deep breath and listen to themselves speaking. The breatherian part was great btw...😂🤦🏻‍♂️

[@carrie6743]

As a vegan I often wonder why vegetarians draw the line where they do. This vegetarian doesn't seem to know either🥴🥴

[@JD-FIES]

He said he’s only really vegetarian because he was raised that way and that he just doesn’t bother to change.

[@janelolita7890]

I’m vegetarian because I believe you can get milk and dairy ethically

[@ayyowassup]

@@janelolita7890 how? How can you take a baby from a mother and slaughter both in the end 'ethically'?

[@sarahhenning5484]

@@ayyowassup I didn't write that comment but in my opinion there are very few cases in which drinking milk wouldn't be morally wrong. If it excludes the points you mentioned then it can be morally right. Like the cow, goat or sheep got pregnant naturally, lives more or less wild or with a lot of space, the baby isn't taken away and the animal is not killed in the end and you only take very little. If you drink milk only in those occasions it will probably be a very rare experience, but some people would still consider that being vegetarian and not vegan

[@DuelingPeaks]

@@sarahhenning5484 On what fucking planet would that scenario arise? 😂

[@Dial_J_for_Josh]

As soon as he said I'm a "moral relativist" I knew this debate was over. This concept of morality being "subjective" must cease to exist, for it creates a society where no one has consideration for the well being of others. You would think universities would teach their students these basic concepts.

[@Assassin99584]

Who is the arbiter of objective morality then

[@friedrice207]

i'm not saying you should use moral relativism as an excuse to harm others but i have yet to see someone who believes in objective morality state a coherent moral framework that works well in all situations

[@lelrond]

No, his idea of moral relativism is just inadequate. I am a moral relativist and advocate for veganism.

[@rupert909]

but who decides what is objectively moral? 🤔

[@rupert909]

you're religious right?

[@Kschultz95]

As someone who was vegetarian for 16 years, and now vegan for 6+ I love everything about this debate. 👏 I hope Sahil sees the fallacy in his arguments.

[@EthanJahnz]

you're just imposing your morality

[@aethylwulfeiii6502]

Crop harvests do and will continue fail, and they fail big time when they do. If there were no dairy herds or chicken egg coops, then there will be mass famines. It’s a don’t put all your eggs in the soy beans basket.

[@wilsoncollins-byrd5248]

Ed, is was great seeing you at UT, I've been watching your content for close to 4 years now. Every time I see you debate I'm amazed at your composure, and quick-wittedness which one can clearly see comes from your strong dedication to the movement, and continuous education. We need you here in Texas man! Lol, a lot of ignorant brains walking around that need some light, hope to see you in Austin again!

[@PiceaSitchensis]

The guy needs to put his ego aside and actually listen and be willing to acknowledge his errors and contradictions. Nice job Ed!

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

There's no winning that fight....

[@ReubenClarke]

I love these kind of debates. The other person seems unwilling to change and comes up with tenuous reasons not to go vegan, but they will definitely go away and think about their lifestyle after this. As they deliver those answers to Ed’s questions, they ultimately realise how shaky the foundations of their argument are. Or at least, that’s how it looks to me.

[@cheriesomerville7516]

Golly, this guy is just so (book) smart! His entire, wordy, long-winded argument can be distilled down to "I wanna eat what I wanna eart & here's me engaging in verbal gymnastics to justify that.".

[@kennysoul8454]

11:02 - "Animals don't need to display the same moral agency and morality that we do to deserve not to be arbitrarily harmed by us" - ....... Sheesh.

[@grafinvonhohenembs]

Vegetarians can be crazier than omnis sometimes. Hope this guy comes around eventually. Great job, Ed!

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

They don't want you to know this crucial fact so they can keep you running on the hamster wheel while filling their pockets 👉👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥🔥

[@idowebwork]

Knowing that your actions lead to the exploitation of another being, through suffering and ultimate death, should be enough to outweigh ANY inconvenience factor. Then again simply framing the switch as an inconvenience is indeed part of the issue. Oh the foods I've learn to try and appreciate since going Vegan in 2019. Zero real inconvenience!

[@ronniegeorge3152]

I was not at all ready for where this conversation suddenly went at 3mins lol Edit: liked how it ended :) #GoVegan

[@LouisGedo]

👋

[@plant-basedpeasant6396]

Talking in circles doesn't work with Ed, he will always guide the conversation back to where it needs to go. Every single person has come to realize their argument's defeat. Once again, well done Ed!!! 👏👏👏

[@denissemedina5834]

OH NO! Having to change the way you THINK?!?! But the inconvenience!!!😱

[@joepdewit2937]

Did he really say that animals have no sense of immorality? That’s just tells me this guy knows nothing about animal biology and the moral choices regarding veganism.

[@zola8063]

You’re a star! As always, I get frustrated listening to these debates, but you’re so calm, thoughtful, and respectful, that you always eventually get through on some level.

[@harsharya545]

Another day of Vegan Jesus saving the day.

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

"blurry lines tho"....

[@jadenemet4527]

Genuinely curious how many people were vegetarian before vegan? I had the good fortune of learning about the cruelty in the egg and dairy industries very early so I never bothered with that phase

[@eklein89]

I had a 3-month vegetarian phase

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

Me: carnist to pescatarian to vegetarian to vegan. Would have skipped the middle two if I met Ed, or was informed otherwise, but I didn't know...went vegan the minute I found out about dairy and eggs...

[@melhardy203]

Me. I was veggie for 30 years. I didn't like eggs and knew what awful conditions they lived in but did eat things with eggs in. I had no clue how cruel the dairy industry is. Once you know there's no going back. Love your work Ed, keep telling the truth and exposing the lies 👊👊

[@michaelrch]

I was vegetarian for a year before vegan.

[@disneybunny45]

I was mostly plant based before going vegan, I preferred veggies and milk and eggs over meat. Seeing how the egg industry treats newly hatched chicks made me quit eggs and other animal products cold turkey.

[@angelatillman4323]

This probably seems silly to say,but most people have a little vegan in them. Most people eat vegetables and fruit. I feel that the circumstances with the way animals are treated today requires a better solution. Thats why being vegan is important.

[@Ototo147]

I don't think that sounds silly at all. But I think a better way to frame what you said is that, when given the choice between preparing a vegetable and eating it versus slitting the throat of an animal and cooking it, most would prefer the former. It's just that the modern food industry hides the horrors of the process from consumers, allowing them to conveniently gloss over the morality of it. To your point, if the horrors of these industries weren't abstracted away from everyone, maybe a lot more people would forgo animal products.

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

They don't want you to know this crucial fact so they can keep you running on the hamster wheel while filling their pockets 👉👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥🔥

[@differentlyrome9732]

i am a vegeterian but omg, the talk of the vegan guy makes to quit animal products!!!

[@judstt]

Him really listening to them seems to make these conversations go smoothly. Take notes, vegan activists 💚☮️🌱

[@Joe_exe_07]

Ed is so articulate in his speech....dayyumm!!!

[@oddvegan9797]

''Yeah, I don't think it costs nothing'' It costs less animals lives, that's what it costs. Also, beans, lentils, rice, pasta... are all super cheap.

[@luram3118]

It is interesting to me how Ed - who we often praise for his calm approach in debates - begins to stumble in his serenity as soon as he's confronted with an educated advocate for different metaethical positions (with which I'm actually not in line with).

[@BenTheCuber]

This video PROVES that children are VERY impressionable. He is a vegetarian because he was raised vegetarian. This is why we need to raise our kids not eating meat.

[@intentional_nourishment]

Another really interesting and informative conversation! I always learn something new when I watch these, and they always make me feel more inspired to share about why I became vegan!

[@adorable3817]

Yes!!!! Write it down, learn it - quiz yourself The key is having a short concersation - just something to make them think. Plant the seed

[@intentional_nourishment]

@@adorable3817 Love that! Thanks for the tips :)

[@adorable3817]

@@intentional_nourishment 🤗💜🌱🙏

[@lindagordon2830]

This vegetarian is a classic narcissist

[@anthonyfox477]

Genuinely curious about how you reached this conclusion.

[@davidsthoughts60]

It’s amusing when people think they’re going to stump Ed. He’s done this for so long that he’s probably heard every question and challenge several times. I don’t always eat like I should, so it’s good for me to continue watching.

[@jp5419]

Earthling Ed is just too smart for these people. He is imposing his morality on others if he judges that others are mistreating people and therefore he steps in. Love how Ed forces people to questions their beliefs and why they believe them. Brilliant.

[@evilsbrother8247]

Except he doesnt dazzle them with brilliance he baffles them with bullshit.

[@Semabachos]

This is gonna be gooood. Like!

[@Semabachos]

Shit...it wasn't good. It was very frustrating. This guys arguments are complete bollocks. So many rhetoric falacies. At least he can recognise Ed has good arguments. Hopefully a seed was planted. But before that seed can sprout there is a lot of deconstruction that needa to happen. He needs to understand why the arguments he uses as justification are just not sound arguments. The premises do not lead to the conclusions. It is very frustrating to see someone who is vetarian justify themselves like this. The moral arguments in favour of vegetarianism are exactly the same as the ones in favour of veganism, simple as that.

[@GarethRiffStevens]

@@Semabachos completely agree, vegetarians are just health conscious people or are through religious reasons, they should just be vegan if they won't eat meat but issue is, they likely don't even consider the animals. It's like a vegan that occasionally eats meat, like.. they are no better , they clearly don't care for animals but are vegan for health reasons. If a person can not understand or not care that an animal suffers before becoming food, then they are either uneducated and disconnected or just plain and simply, selfish hypocritical a holes because I bet they would swerve to avoid hitting a duck and it's babies crossing a road, I bet they would stop and become traffic marshals.

[@YourVeganFriendTonia]

Another amazing conversation Ed!! This is great!

[@jakeburgard907]

I loved this debate. Not only was the guy respectful, but he also made a very nuanced point that i consistently run into with other people that I hadn’t seen on this channel yet. While I normally enter into a long winded argument against relativism when it’s brought up, I think this simple example will be much easier for people to understand. Thank you 🙏

[@Serendipity-gj2me]

Thank you, Ed, and thanks to Sahil for being open-minded and giving Ed the credit he deserves. Ed is well-read and when it comes to the vegan argument, he will give you a lot to think about.

[@A469-l2y]

How selfish and confused can someone be...

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

They don't want you to know this crucial fact so they can keep you running on the hamster wheel while filling their pockets 👉👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥🔥

[@NiranjanBendre]

Ed is great! 👍👌👏 As an ex-vegetarian I don’t agree with him. He has made that inconvenient choices many times in the past with meat and adding dairy/egg is initially hard but possible. I did it! 😅 I loved dairy but now I can stand the smell of it and eggs! 😬

[@PlantStrength]

The best way to determine “your” morality is by doing to others what you’d want them to do to you, assuming you’re of sane mind and not desiring self-harm. Therefore, if you wouldn’t want someone to kill and eat you or your byproducts for their “convenience,” then don’t kill and eat others for yours.

[@magda_pie]

when he goes on about how it's inconvenient to change (change our beliefs, bc he says how when he sees milk, he doesn't see suffering, i.e he has to actively think when making a decision=too hard=he's just gonna do whatever is easier), obviously any change is new, sometimes scary, unknown, and takes practice. Now it's just a matter of "do i want to change and help reduce suffering" or "i'm going to actively ignore the suffering of animals bc it's too hard to change". We really do like comfort

[@leerol1]

I get the feeling this guy was getting on Eds nerves. Mine too.

[@jinxterx]

yup

[@kent7164]

Another great debate Ed! Though I do feel most of these people have not done their own research. How can someone think you get more protein from animal products ? Why is everyone obsessed with protein ! ?

[@richierich2229]

You vegans are so self centered I know you guys live in a bubble but you do know some people depend on animals for protein. Some counties not some a lot of counties can’t be vegan so their main source of protein is from meat

[@kent7164]

@@richierich2229 hi Richie. Thanks for your comment. Though I disagree with your statement that vegans are self centered. I agree that there are some places where eating meat is necessary for them. But that is not the argument. It’s the fact that billions of animals are unnecessarily killed. We can get all the nutrients we need from a plant-based diet, and that is proven. Completely eradicating the consumption of meat is most likely impossible, but educating people on making conscious decisions about what the products they purchase is a step in the right direction. These are arguments Ed has made plenty of times on his channel, I do recommend watching more of his videos if you’re up for it. But watch with an open mind and a willingness to learn, not with preconceived notions you may have about vegans. 💚

[@RamseyRimkeit]

The tItle should be "Vegetarian Performing Amazing Mental Gymnastics".

[@hugotruthtv]

I grew up on a farm and ranch. I've been a mere couple of feet from pigs, a cow and a baby goat getting slaughtered. Even though I was young I could see that these creatures knew something sinister was going to happen. They immediately try to break free from the person wielding the long sharp knife and they cry out for help by squealing. We are not meant to consume animals. In the past we were nomadic peoples. So bringing cows and goats for their milk for added sustenance on our long voyages made sense at the time. We live in the age of Aquarius, where all the information is readily available to 90% of the world population. Sacrifice you own wants and needs not another loving creature life in order to satisfy your palate for convenience.

[@samperry2305]

Thank you so much for sharing your gift and talents with people in this world. I really believe that a big portion to success in our message to go vegan is the ability to communicate that message to others. You, my friend, are the person many of us have been looking for. Sharing all your videos so that we can continue and expand our message

[@prieten49]

Hmmm, this fella thinks it's possible to stay alive without eating! I read somewhere about a tribe in which the men claim that they never have to defecate! I suspect that if we followed them around for a while, we would eventually see them sneaking into the bushes. I admire Ed's patience with his interlocuters. He has so much experience debating this subject, that he has literally heard every argument that has ever been made against veganism, and he has had plenty of time to come up with the answers. His nonthreatening approach is also very disarming. His persistence is amazing.

[@ericajackss]

You absolutely NAILED this one, through and through. Well rounded!

[@disneybunny45]

This guy sounds so heartless. He knows how cruel the egg and dairy industry are but doesn't see that as a good enough reason to stop eating them.

[@adorable3817]

I know. I hope he watches this Video. Wish we could get Updates on the ppl he has apoken to 😁

[@ZaddyZavid]

He sucks

[@zachjohnson980]

I love how these people defeat themselves with their own logic and so called morality.

[@EasyWater]

Oh I love this. Veggie: Plants have feelings, please don't eat them. Ed: we have to survive and they feel the least possible amount of pain (some sort of nervous system in some plants but no brain - while all animals that are eaten have both and more developed), so this is the most ethical option. Veggie: Lol just don't eat. Tf why don't you then also abstain from eating?

[@kaizey]

What a great little debate, kudos to both! The guy seemed like he’s really open to changing his mind when he comes across arguments that are compelling from his POV, and that is a great thing.

[@manuinjapan]

Those eggs are really helping this guy grow strong, have a look at this beast.

[@ayaforest700]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤭💚💚💚💚

[@lunchymunchy2984]

“Initially putting up a valiant fight, another promising opponent ultimately slams on the anchors and begins back peddling at around 15:00. minutes in...”. “......ladies and gentlemen the un defeated champion... Mrrrrrr... Ed... Wiiiinteeeerrrrs!!! “

[@sannlorias]

I’ve been waiting for this video since I discovered you weeks ago. I’ve been vegetarian since I was 12, and was vegan for 7 years until I started traveling to rural Texas for work every day. I went back to vegetarianism because it was so difficult to even find something vegetarian to eat and a big part of my job was taking clients to lunch or dinner where I’d be made fun of for living in Austin and being a vegetarian. That was a long time ago. I work solely in Austin now and there is no excuse to not be vegan again. I waited to see an episode like this with anticipation and a bit of dread, because I knew you’d get me. Thank you Ed, you converted one more wayward vegetarian back into veganism today. ❤

[@LouisGedo]

14:51 🎤 DROP 💥 *Moral Relativism Got Rekt Again*

[@x-latetv-x6816]

Hey buddy

[@LouisGedo]

@@x-latetv-x6816 👋

[@x-latetv-x6816]

@@LouisGedo hope all is good, I'm just doing my vegan arguing as usual, never realized it was an addiction better go to vegan arguing anonymous VAA 😂

[@LouisGedo]

@@x-latetv-x6816 I do believe that in most cases, sensible, productive-goaled arguing is a sign that a person actually cares about a topic. And caring about the intentional harming of innocent, sentient individuals is ALWAYS a good thing in my view. So, no shame at all in vegans arguing about veganism.