Sir Richard Ottaway - Britain Does Not Owe Reparations

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The motion: This house believes Britain owes reparations to her former colonies.
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@rajeshramachandran1812
@rajeshramachandran1812 7 ай бұрын
It clearly shows Brits have no remorse for what they have done.
@ThatBlueSkull
@ThatBlueSkull 7 ай бұрын
Shouldn't judge based on one mans view
@aabaaa9993
@aabaaa9993 5 ай бұрын
Of course it does, the vast majority of the audiance are British and they strongly disagree with the speaker.
@573gwills3
@573gwills3 6 күн бұрын
No we do not, I haven’t done anything to anyone alive today. Or to ancestors!
@neosapien247
@neosapien247 8 жыл бұрын
Shashi Taroor ripped him a new one.
@xxxswift23
@xxxswift23 2 жыл бұрын
“Until the Lion Learns How to Write, Every Story will Glorify the Hunter”
@stephenwalker850
@stephenwalker850 10 ай бұрын
Thick orange cvnt ?
@joncullen5382
@joncullen5382 9 ай бұрын
Be better at War fighting -shxthouse.
@vaniaandrade9671
@vaniaandrade9671 8 ай бұрын
You should try to learn more about history... And you need to put that phrase in the house of governments in Africa, Asia, South America... Western countries already have this concept... Still we have to remember them once in a while...
@joncullen5382
@joncullen5382 8 ай бұрын
@vaniaandrade9671 tell me again about the Barbary slave trade .. Oh, and it still get fcked. Ps I've lived in your head rent free for 31 days -mug 😅
@jacobfield4848
@jacobfield4848 8 ай бұрын
Africans had 4000 years of slavery, long before the UK existed.
@mitalisharma5305
@mitalisharma5305 5 жыл бұрын
I am an Indian.. I don't hate Britishers but after listening to his speech , his way of talking and pointing fingers shows his lack of intelligence and pompous nature. They say “Don't raise your voice, improve your argument. " Well, he really needs to learn this.
@mitalisharma5305
@mitalisharma5305 5 жыл бұрын
@Soloman1001 Lol.. Seems like you have .
@niyatipatwardhan6689
@niyatipatwardhan6689 8 жыл бұрын
"Oh no we died too invading your countries "
@ohhi6313
@ohhi6313 Жыл бұрын
@@HeardItOnTheX says the guy who still has a monarchy after all these years.
@brittanyhayes1043
@brittanyhayes1043 Жыл бұрын
@@ohhi6313 And will continue to so you can cope.
@ohhi6313
@ohhi6313 Жыл бұрын
@@brittanyhayes1043 I wonder if you would have said that if another country had looted and pillaged, murdered, tortured, maimed and enslaved people from your country?
@brittanyhayes1043
@brittanyhayes1043 Жыл бұрын
@@ohhi6313 Probably. Its in the past. She did not fo anying Colonial during her reign. You either forgive her and move on or don't and seeth. Let go!
@brittanyhayes1043
@brittanyhayes1043 Жыл бұрын
@@ohhi6313 Long live the British Monarchy.
@opensesame8888
@opensesame8888 3 жыл бұрын
Japan paid the reparations to the countries Japan occupied. So can UK.
@samuraijosh1595
@samuraijosh1595 3 жыл бұрын
@treadmildashx Britain didn't even do that. That's the point!
@samarthmisra6064
@samarthmisra6064 3 жыл бұрын
I get that but how? they are no longer the empire. And they would need multiple britains to pay now just to pakistan, let alone my country of India.
@meghamala1993
@meghamala1993 3 жыл бұрын
@@samarthmisra6064 at least they should apologize and admit their sins
@samarthmisra6064
@samarthmisra6064 3 жыл бұрын
@@meghamala1993 that i agree with.
@meghamala1993
@meghamala1993 3 жыл бұрын
@@L8Pl first of all, your ancestors left us in a very worse state, secondly your people feel proud of your history (which you have to be ashamed), and as he said most of the top 10 rich persons are from colonies, you wouldn't have them if you sent them to their countries. Keep enjoying our money.
@whizkid7
@whizkid7 8 жыл бұрын
British queen as the head of state for India? What a joker ?
@_vedantmittal
@_vedantmittal 8 жыл бұрын
Look how he got pissed off when Dr. Tharoor corrected him. Arrogant.
@samank8628
@samank8628 3 жыл бұрын
Empty vessels you know.
@barcaedits19
@barcaedits19 2 жыл бұрын
So basically british taught us english for 200 years and took fees of 45 trillion pounds as fees 😂😂
@barcaedits19
@barcaedits19 2 жыл бұрын
@Chandler Bing ik it was just a joke lol
@karshanbhaihumbal9164
@karshanbhaihumbal9164 Жыл бұрын
Bro Indians know English because of America we follow them slot and there movies so that's why
@abelpeter9658
@abelpeter9658 Жыл бұрын
45 trillion pounds is not a scientific consensus. How can a nation that looted 45 trillion be worth only 2 trillion 100 years later?
@barcaedits19
@barcaedits19 Жыл бұрын
@@abelpeter9658 inflation nd war spendin (ww1,ww2)
@yousefkhalil3052
@yousefkhalil3052 Жыл бұрын
@@karshanbhaihumbal9164 wrong
@jaynyk745
@jaynyk745 4 жыл бұрын
Nigeria does NOT recognise the Queen as the head of state
@abhishekmukherjee2891
@abhishekmukherjee2891 2 жыл бұрын
Nor does India. The Brits are living in their day-dreams.
@samoptimus4228
@samoptimus4228 2 жыл бұрын
@@abhishekmukherjee2891 fr fr
@oliva6352
@oliva6352 2 жыл бұрын
@@abhishekmukherjee2891 we don't care
@connorjames6226
@connorjames6226 2 жыл бұрын
nobody in Britain cares
@thdoom81
@thdoom81 Жыл бұрын
@@connorjames6226 then pay reparations and shut up
@anandsrinath5360
@anandsrinath5360 8 жыл бұрын
The only reason he can't allow too many interventions is because they would flood him by pointing out the factual inaccuracies he builds his arguments on.
@kritanloveschessforever
@kritanloveschessforever 3 жыл бұрын
True
@vaghelas4719
@vaghelas4719 2 жыл бұрын
Just ask first of why did British came to India and Indian never asked them to come.
@dt6822
@dt6822 2 жыл бұрын
Bla bla bla. Deal with your own sense of inferiority
@naveenrajaelangovan4641
@naveenrajaelangovan4641 2 жыл бұрын
@CHRISTIAN KNIGHT yup. you stopped caring for repercussions. that's why you are suffering now. Most Indians have taken jobs from lower level to top tier jobs in UK. they have flooded your universities. While many UK students are going out painting walls with phallic symbols. What we are doing is also a kind of invasion.But you can't oppose this with your "legacy" called democratic process. Good luck for not caring. in 100 years we will own you. There are Indians in Britain who are wealthier than 70% of British population. only 30% left to conquer. Keep it up. don't care. Indians are the curse you unleashed upon yourself.
@n.emisisxx7
@n.emisisxx7 2 жыл бұрын
@CHRISTIAN KNIGHT of course, you won't care because you're the descendants of the same people who colonized us ( you should feel ashamed for that ). Just go to you mum or dad and start crying in their lap with saying that your Grandfather and Great Grandfather must've been very bad and evil people.😂😂😂
@kmohan24
@kmohan24 7 жыл бұрын
India has the Queen has their head of State? Wow Genius.
@DipakBose-bq1vv
@DipakBose-bq1vv 4 жыл бұрын
So long as India stays in the Commonwealth it does recognize.
@shafnaw9676
@shafnaw9676 Жыл бұрын
South asians (Indians/Paks/Bengalis) had weak men, with no backbone/strength. They have been ruled by the Pathans/Persians, Mongols/mughals and then British. The men of these territories are so proud that they fought for the empire like a loyal dog.
@improbablynotahooman5782
@improbablynotahooman5782 Жыл бұрын
​@@DipakBose-bq1vv There is a difference between the commonwealth and the commonwealth realm. India is not a part of the commonwealth realm and this has been made very much clear by our country in 1950 when we made our own constitution and became a republic. Take your propaganda and die with it. Don't pretend to be an Indian.
@NoName-eq9md
@NoName-eq9md 8 ай бұрын
​@@DipakBose-bq1vvMisinformation. Not a single page of the Constitution of India says that the Queen is the head of state.
@debroyprasenjit
@debroyprasenjit 4 жыл бұрын
This was torture on the ears
@robertisham5279
@robertisham5279 2 жыл бұрын
No it wasn't
@justabhishek1462
@justabhishek1462 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertisham5279 yes it was
@barrybeebenson8102
@barrybeebenson8102 2 жыл бұрын
@@justabhishek1462 because
@cpj93070
@cpj93070 Жыл бұрын
@@justabhishek1462 No, it really wasn't, you ain't getting an apology or Money from Britain so you better suck it up and get on with it.
@hellacatsFB
@hellacatsFB Жыл бұрын
Cope
@otherpill7008
@otherpill7008 8 жыл бұрын
How did this guy get a knighthood?
@dougquaid4745
@dougquaid4745 6 жыл бұрын
Other Pill because he is a massive cunt
@samank8628
@samank8628 3 жыл бұрын
Knighthood is an illusion - that’s how.
@tanishqagrawal1463
@tanishqagrawal1463 2 жыл бұрын
Because these awards are biased
@vivek_02512
@vivek_02512 2 жыл бұрын
Must have sucked something
@archanasingh3806
@archanasingh3806 Жыл бұрын
simple by kissing the feet of the monarchy
@christianandersson3421
@christianandersson3421 3 жыл бұрын
He is defending a system and him-self because he is a part of that system.
@akshayrathore2882
@akshayrathore2882 8 жыл бұрын
The speaker is (deliberately?) confusing between Commonwealth of Nations which has 53 member states and Commonwealth realms who accept Queen as Monarch which are 16
@nimisharanganath2487
@nimisharanganath2487 8 жыл бұрын
akshay rathore Seriously! I HAD sign in JUST to comment "Is this guy talking out of his ass?" as SOON as I heard that! If I was drinking a beverage, I'd have spit it out! INDIA considering Queen Dicktoria as head of state? Seriously?
@khayaalipulao
@khayaalipulao 8 жыл бұрын
akshay rathore I scrolled down exactly to say this, but then Shashi Tharoor.
@TechnocraticBushman
@TechnocraticBushman 8 жыл бұрын
+akshay rathore And also is confusing Britain the country, aka the it's people, and Britain the empire, with the opulent few, the elite, which has first subjugated it's own citizens, then moved on as an empire to subjugate others. Brits should not feel offended, nor guilty for something that they themselves did not commit. They should feel sympathy, realize they themselves are getting shafted as well and seek allegiance with the former slaves, with whom they share the common goal of a better life, free from this exploitation.
@akshayrathore2882
@akshayrathore2882 8 жыл бұрын
TechnocraticBushman that is a bit more subtle criticism. In a parliamentary democracy each citizen feels(and rightly so,) responsible for action of their govt. So instead of understanding they get offended when their govt is criticised.
@TechnocraticBushman
@TechnocraticBushman 8 жыл бұрын
akshay rathore I was aiming for diplomacy.
@keshdaji
@keshdaji 8 жыл бұрын
Pompous hollowness personified :)
@Notorious46
@Notorious46 7 жыл бұрын
Not an argument
@archiebunker4108
@archiebunker4108 7 жыл бұрын
Counter his points rather than vapidly emoting.
@jennysimpson564
@jennysimpson564 3 жыл бұрын
@@archiebunker4108 His points were routinely countered. Sir Richard hardly provided any rebuttals!
@AnkitKumar-bb6ev
@AnkitKumar-bb6ev 8 жыл бұрын
This person mentions India as one of the countries which considers the British crown as the head of the state. I doubt that. It is the President here.
@theisheep2676
@theisheep2676 3 жыл бұрын
yes but the queen is still a symbolic head of state.
@theisheep2676
@theisheep2676 3 жыл бұрын
@Vishnu vs I refuse to accept the bullshit you have said towards the end of your reply. You have no idea of how hard the royal family and the queen work to support the commonwealth countries
@kamalkumar7978
@kamalkumar7978 3 жыл бұрын
@@theisheep2676 supporting through a few million dollars after looted 45+ trillion dollars. If she hadn't looted in the first place then she wouldn't have need to work hard in the first place. I would like to point out that even that hard work in nothing infornt of what she did.
@theisheep2676
@theisheep2676 3 жыл бұрын
@@kamalkumar7978 First of all it wasn’t her who looted. It was the nation and queen Victoria was the queen back then. Also India is a rapidly developing country and in a couple decades it will be very rich and have a big economy. There’s no need to have disdain because of things that happened in the past. The Mughals were much worse than the British
@kamalkumar7978
@kamalkumar7978 3 жыл бұрын
@@theisheep2676 they both have done some bad things. Why are you even using mughals to defend brits ? Those things happened in the past doesn't mean that the descents shouldn't acknowledge their own real history. And, by the way, it is the descents who are enjoying the luxuries that their ancestors gave to them by looting us. So, you ARE a part of it.
@heavenisaplaceinanime6081
@heavenisaplaceinanime6081 2 жыл бұрын
The way he says that the british had not invaded 22 countries makes me want to really make him vanish of the planets face
@teakchair6307
@teakchair6307 8 жыл бұрын
If l shamelessly lie anymore, my mother warned she will start calling me "Sir Richard Ottaway" I don't think he actually believes in what he says. Wonder how this old fellow can sleep at night being so disingenuous. And if he is bigoted enough to genuinely believe what he says, i will take solace in the fact that the bulk of his time on this planet is already done.
@tanmayarvind3651
@tanmayarvind3651 4 жыл бұрын
This comment is so wholesome.
@samcousins3204
@samcousins3204 3 жыл бұрын
this is genuinely the best comment i've ever read on youtube ever
@WrenCubes
@WrenCubes 3 жыл бұрын
@@samcousins3204 SAM YO
@samcousins3204
@samcousins3204 3 жыл бұрын
@@WrenCubes yOOO
@Mysterious_pomo
@Mysterious_pomo 2 жыл бұрын
the no of dislikes itself tells what his thought is....
@Boltonpictures
@Boltonpictures 8 жыл бұрын
I agree it is unfair to ask the current generation to pay from their taxes, but they seem to be enjoying the fruits of the loot. The rich list in Britain is reduced to just four Indians ? Remember, all of India was rich in wealth, resources and richer in culture. If the British-Indians are on the rich list, does it make up for the suffering caused from colonialism.
@AdithyaRamSriBhavaniNatyalaya
@AdithyaRamSriBhavaniNatyalaya 8 жыл бұрын
+Boltonpictures Just to clarify he said that out of the top of seven richest people in Britain 4 were from the colonies... and i agree it doesn't make up for the suffering caused.
@alexnielsen8888
@alexnielsen8888 3 жыл бұрын
How can say it was richer? If someone said that the other way it would be racist
@anvilnext1981
@anvilnext1981 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexnielsen8888 Oh it was way richer than your precious words pal...You are anyday welcome to the Archeological Department of Bharath.a.k.a India of you want the Quantum of Resources looted list including Centenerries that can surely clarify you in how damn resourceful we once were before the Invasion and Imperialism.
@anvilnext1981
@anvilnext1981 3 жыл бұрын
@kosmic . You can dissent yes.But kindly ensure factually accurate reason to support your Narrative.
@anvilnext1981
@anvilnext1981 3 жыл бұрын
@kosmic . Your above comment said "Absolutely Not".Can you explain to me why you denying that India was Rich and had Global Trade Contribution upto 25% till British Colonialism started and the. Declined to Below 2%?
@razpor
@razpor 8 жыл бұрын
No one needs reparations ,just return that so proud jewel in the crown of your queen.That doesnt belong to you,it was a theft . We want it back. Symbolic ,aint it??
@hbsupreme1499
@hbsupreme1499 8 ай бұрын
No they owe money that why there rich and other countries are ooor
@sohomsengupta8914
@sohomsengupta8914 8 жыл бұрын
His demeanour,tonality & body language when he talks about the subject is high handed, pompous & snobbish. He actually references a comment of King Lobengula of Matabele (looked up wiki, they were a tribe in Zimbabwe) & glorifies the 'humility' of the comment of being 'lice at the edge of the majesty's blanket'. The irrereverant, dismissive tone as he quotes that 'loyal address' is so enraging. The way he denies people objecting to his grossly propagandist comments by simply muttering 'I wont' is almost the perfect example of how colonisation ruled with almost complete totalitarianism.
@kennythelenny6819
@kennythelenny6819 2 жыл бұрын
It's a formal debate he can do that. I do agree he needed to sound more empathetic with a softer tone while saying that.
@riaa8689
@riaa8689 Жыл бұрын
Well yeah, that is the typical colonizer.
@AA-yc8yr
@AA-yc8yr 3 ай бұрын
@@riaa8689 If it wasn't for the colonisers, where would you lot have been now, eh? Middle-Ages level.
@AA-yc8yr
@AA-yc8yr 3 ай бұрын
@@kennythelenny6819 Empathetic, because? What's there to empathise with? The idiocy and ignorance of his opponents, both formal and among the 'students' in the room?
@riaa8689
@riaa8689 3 ай бұрын
@@AA-yc8yr We would be more advanced if it wasn't for colonizers.
@sourendubagchi4793
@sourendubagchi4793 3 жыл бұрын
This gentlemen doesn’t have the basic political knowledge that the president of India is the head of state not the queen of england (unlike Australia or Canada). He doesn’t have the slightest idea how offensive it is to Indians to suggest that a foreign monarch is the head of their country but somehow is supposed to be addressed as “sir”
@captainchaos1311
@captainchaos1311 Жыл бұрын
whats the point of the Indian president? they have no power. Replace them with Charles III
@foodscrazy9229
@foodscrazy9229 Жыл бұрын
Then how can you call him a gentleman , He's cunning thug who tries to protect their last piece of cheese
@prithviraj1450
@prithviraj1450 4 жыл бұрын
SHASHI THAROOR speaks Up 5:40 🔥
@lfc_tushar
@lfc_tushar 3 жыл бұрын
@Jay Jungle we will nuke britain one day....
@lfc_tushar
@lfc_tushar 3 жыл бұрын
@Jay Jungle we have nukes, and people starving because of bloody Britain, I think india will Comeback in next 20 years and teach britain a lesson
@lfc_tushar
@lfc_tushar 3 жыл бұрын
@Jay Jungle our defence budget is 4rth largest in the world and china also think twice before beef with us, and we also handle Pakistan and britain is a small week country, no future, india is the future,
@lfc_tushar
@lfc_tushar 3 жыл бұрын
@Jay Jungle Time will come and india will regain it's position it was for centuries, yes we are struggling but nature gives us everything, from unlimited fertile lands to endless source of waters, can britain feed 1.4 B people I guess no,Now indians getting educated and begins to realise too much population killing us, Indias population will decline, and then indian and chinese people will be the richest, maybe it will take another 50 years,
@alexandrepasteur7636
@alexandrepasteur7636 2 жыл бұрын
@@lfc_tushar Fam…calm down…nobody is nuking anybody. We’re not gonna need to teach anyone anything… Edit: Chill out fam.
@navajasrs2402
@navajasrs2402 8 жыл бұрын
Oh my God. This was NOT the guy to allow on opposition. Is he for real? Is there a time machine we can use to ship him back to 1850? If I was Lee I'd have considered tackling his elitist ass before he flung any more mud on my face.
@MrSudarsankanumilli
@MrSudarsankanumilli 8 жыл бұрын
this one is waste of my time ..thoroughly enjoyed great mr Taroors Speech..
@TJRDoss
@TJRDoss 2 жыл бұрын
1) "Colonial period was a phase in world development" is like saying "The rape was a phase in a person's sexual development". 2) "Administrations invested heavily in physical infrastructure, health projects, develop markets" is the equivalent of "Grooming".
@James-hv5jh
@James-hv5jh Жыл бұрын
Singapore was colonised, Canada was colonised, Australia was colonised, and America was colonised. How are they doing now?
@uniformitydubliner9691
@uniformitydubliner9691 Жыл бұрын
And... Do you think rape is not a stage of someone's sexual development? Also, rape happens to A PERSON, in THEIR ONE LIFETIME. The difference here is that the human world now has taken centuries, millennias to form. And we are here because of everything that happened in the past. Obviously, including colonisation. Do you disagree with that?
@prajwalbharambe343
@prajwalbharambe343 8 ай бұрын
​@@James-hv5jhare you really comparing settler colonies to slave colony. Lol canada and america genocided natives and banned non wjite immigtants
@hetnaik3667
@hetnaik3667 2 жыл бұрын
Well! Let me steal 90% of the money and possession you own and then give it back to you only 0.1% of it as an aid for being poor. If this is not injustice then i don't know how legitimate the justice system in UK is. After hearing his arguments, i am even questioning the legitimacy of the title"Sir".
@howtotieatie5845
@howtotieatie5845 2 жыл бұрын
It would alright if it was only in colonization time but they are still stealing .
@the98themperoroftheholybri33
@the98themperoroftheholybri33 2 жыл бұрын
@@howtotieatie5845 yeah china is stealing from the 3rd world
@anthonyteis8570
@anthonyteis8570 3 жыл бұрын
"The wealthiest countries are helping the poorest" Why are they the wealthiest I wonder... 🤔
@malusdarkblade1139
@malusdarkblade1139 2 жыл бұрын
By winning , you know when a superior culture conquers and inferior one. So goes the history of the world. I can draw you a diagram if you like ?
@anthonyteis8570
@anthonyteis8570 2 жыл бұрын
@@malusdarkblade1139 Please keep your diagram, thank you. I think we differ on how we define the term "superior culture".
@malusdarkblade1139
@malusdarkblade1139 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyteis8570 the one that wins is superior , it's that simple.
@anthonyteis8570
@anthonyteis8570 2 жыл бұрын
@@malusdarkblade1139 wins what exactly?
@hankhudson8736
@hankhudson8736 2 жыл бұрын
@@malusdarkblade1139 I believe the subject of superiority/inferiority with respect to warfare has more subtle yet significant intricacies. It would be illogical to assume one group of persons superior to another simply based upon an arbitrary string of events which may have played out differently had the minor intricacies not been at play during said singular event.
@AbhilashKorraprolu
@AbhilashKorraprolu 8 жыл бұрын
5:40 The trailer of the upcoming Boss Fight
@AkshaySharma-rr2jx
@AkshaySharma-rr2jx 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@kamalkumar7978
@kamalkumar7978 3 жыл бұрын
Right! 😂 And, then he literally destroyed the opposition.
@intello8953
@intello8953 2 жыл бұрын
“Ancient Greece may have presided over the birth of democracy but Britain has spread it far and wide” I’m sorry how did Britain do that? By invasion and colonialism?
@naveenrajaelangovan4641
@naveenrajaelangovan4641 2 жыл бұрын
And it was spread to them by Roman invasion. I neither see British Thanking Italians nor Italians taking pride is spreading Christianity and democratic idea to them. This is whom we call Egotistical maniacs.
@Andrew-tx9jy
@Andrew-tx9jy 8 ай бұрын
Cheer up, you could have got the Germans and Hitler as colonists.
@abhishekmasih9025
@abhishekmasih9025 3 жыл бұрын
How were you even invited to the debate with that level of understanding
@emmanuellalngaihmanawma9470
@emmanuellalngaihmanawma9470 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Tharoor destroys him
@n.emisisxx7
@n.emisisxx7 2 жыл бұрын
5:38 , 7:00You could actually tell what kind of speech he's given when the only applauds throughout his speech were on the corrections done by Shashi Tharoor and that other guy.
@rohithjnair2
@rohithjnair2 8 жыл бұрын
This could be the perfect sarcastic stand-up routine for a comedian. Word for word.
@RajaSekhar-hr6dh
@RajaSekhar-hr6dh 8 жыл бұрын
RJ Nair Now that i read this comment, i actually enjoyed this hilarious stand-up.
@vinitamanek2667
@vinitamanek2667 8 жыл бұрын
"unnecessary to do so"? Are you kidding me? Reparations is the least that can be done, you cannot even imagine the moral debt obligation of colonisation. Reparations is the least.
@AdithyaRamSriBhavaniNatyalaya
@AdithyaRamSriBhavaniNatyalaya 8 жыл бұрын
+vinita manek I agree with you that they owe us a moral debt... but how will the debt be paid?? money seems paltry when compared to the atrocities committed by the British...
@jonsouth1545
@jonsouth1545 8 жыл бұрын
+vinita manek then can we claim reparations from the Vikings, Romans etc
@vinitamanek2667
@vinitamanek2667 8 жыл бұрын
Money is a mere way to put the Indians out of the misery. The money can be used in unimaginable ways to better the life of people in India. It is not the only solution but it's a start.
@theIndy0678
@theIndy0678 8 жыл бұрын
+vinita manek Britain has provided billions in foreign aid as it is to the Indian government. I don't see how funneling even more money to India is going to solve their problems. This is a country that still has designated shitting streets for God's sake.
@vinitamanek2667
@vinitamanek2667 8 жыл бұрын
+Kyle Donahue It is true that people shit on streets in India but perhaps what you don't know is that they don't do so because they enjoy it, they do so because they are poor and there aren't much facilities available. India is widely divided between people who are billionaires ( people who couldn't care less about what is happening) affluent people ( those who like to ignore the non availability of services because they can afford it themselves) and the miserable poor. Unfortunately, the aid never reaches them. India spends around 70 billion pounds on welfare schemes and the British aid is merely 200 million pounds, it is not the money but the British Aid can make sure that 70 billion pounds are spent effectively and it reaches to the right people.
@itloads
@itloads 8 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Stop asking questions and just pay up!
@aarandir
@aarandir 8 жыл бұрын
His last point about not judging historical events by the 'prism of today's values' is right to some extent. However, if one family has gained wealth, power and prestige by the death and suffering of members of another family who are - largely - less well off than they were before. Then it is natural for the agrieved family and thier descendants to say "Look... UK's GDP is $43,000 but Malawi's is $354." It's natural to feel reparations need to be paid.
@haza123b4
@haza123b4 2 жыл бұрын
@@PiyushMishra-vg7ks *GDP per capita is the measure aarandir was referring to.*
@vseslavkazakov356
@vseslavkazakov356 2 жыл бұрын
im pretty sure it has nothing to do with colanization. Bet their GDP will be even lower if britain didn't colonize them
@grizzii2149
@grizzii2149 2 жыл бұрын
@@vseslavkazakov356 how old are you? Not interested in history it seems.
@kaikwa4160
@kaikwa4160 Жыл бұрын
That's utter horseshit. Britain and much of Europe from London to Moscow was in ruins in 1945. Cities destroyed, economies devastated, industries lost. Britain and the rest of Europe as you see today was rebuilt after ww2.
@yoyo-lf3ld
@yoyo-lf3ld Жыл бұрын
Would Malawian gdp be better if the British didn't show up? Somehow me thinks not
@smarthpassi6615
@smarthpassi6615 8 жыл бұрын
His most of facts r incorrect.. The old fella must start reading some stuff now..
@oliva6352
@oliva6352 2 жыл бұрын
Not there not
@TheVijaiParadigm
@TheVijaiParadigm 8 жыл бұрын
Dr. Tharoor dominated this man.
@connorjames6226
@connorjames6226 2 жыл бұрын
its easy when you can just play the victim card - both men obviously love their country.
@bhaskarmukherjee8710
@bhaskarmukherjee8710 Жыл бұрын
@@connorjames6226 your forefathers were looters, try now, racist
@ronald3639
@ronald3639 2 жыл бұрын
"There are only 22 countries that Britain did not invade" is equivalent to "i only killed 99 people out of the 100 people, not more so im not guilty"
@aniruddhadoke9225
@aniruddhadoke9225 8 жыл бұрын
INDIA - "recognizes the queen as the head of state" Hahahahahahah TOP KEK
@DipakBose-bq1vv
@DipakBose-bq1vv 4 жыл бұрын
So long as India stays in the Commonwealth it does recognize.
@dr_jamie_ranger
@dr_jamie_ranger 8 жыл бұрын
If you live in Croydon South, and voted Conservative, I would be surprised if you appreciated the specific candidate you were voting for. Bloody hell.
@stewstewnonyo9377
@stewstewnonyo9377 4 жыл бұрын
I love how he basically didn’t even answer a single Point of Information, because he knew his “facts” would’ve been debunked
@yoyo-lf3ld
@yoyo-lf3ld Жыл бұрын
They didn't say anything that needed responding to.
@anmoldhawan211
@anmoldhawan211 8 жыл бұрын
Sheer inaccuracy of facts.
@balbirchauhan1152
@balbirchauhan1152 4 жыл бұрын
@Youthoob Gamer I thought british had that one they were crying endlessly about immigration.
@nanaskin6
@nanaskin6 8 жыл бұрын
What about the Crown Jewels?! Why does Britain refuse to give them back!
@somebodyjustgotshot
@somebodyjustgotshot 8 жыл бұрын
+nanaskin6 Because it's ours now, numbnuts.
@nanaskin6
@nanaskin6 8 жыл бұрын
+Benyamin Il'Aflehki by what logic?
@somebodyjustgotshot
@somebodyjustgotshot 8 жыл бұрын
How daft. Is it in England, or is it in India? Special brownie points if you can work out the answer by yourself.
@nanaskin6
@nanaskin6 8 жыл бұрын
+Benyamin Il'Aflehki that doesn't explain why Britain refuses to give back stolen goods. that's what needs an explanation!
@somebodyjustgotshot
@somebodyjustgotshot 8 жыл бұрын
Do you seriously believe minerals that took millions of years to form have a "rightful" owner? If you're too weak to keep it, then you clearly don't deserve it. Stay mad, subhumans.
@nishkarsh7356
@nishkarsh7356 4 жыл бұрын
Tharoor sir destroyed his idea of Indian-aid
@roshnibodkee7225
@roshnibodkee7225 3 жыл бұрын
His speech shows that specific racisim toward india
@user-yv6qk6wc2o
@user-yv6qk6wc2o 5 жыл бұрын
sleep good tonight Sir Ottaway, whilst maggots churn around in that foul thing you call your conscience
@m.a.d.g.o.d
@m.a.d.g.o.d 3 жыл бұрын
Ooooh🔥🔥🔥🔥great choice of words.....you nust be a writer
@martinm6108
@martinm6108 8 жыл бұрын
We in India get to read a lot about problems of colonial legacy which i understand is 1. The destruction of traditional educational systems in India where a lot of emphasis was laid on moral education and philosophy of life, the lack of which is having tumultuous effects in modern day society. 2. Destruction of a sense of pride in one's culture,language,traditions and imposition of unnecessary english traits like eating with fork/spoon,dressing up in suits etc. 3. Commodification of human beings, women in particular in corporate culture,fields of entertainment and showbizz. 4. The careless boundary settlements done in sub continent like Ind-Pak border disputes,Ind-Bangladesh enclaves issue and so on which are a pain for govts even today. 5. The alienation of certain parts of the country like the North East India being kept in protective areas for exploitation of human and natural resources and spread of missionary activities. If britain could provide solutions to these long standing problems they would deserve to stop the reparations.
@vinodaswani1
@vinodaswani1 3 жыл бұрын
All points are perfectly said 👍
@victord9814
@victord9814 2 жыл бұрын
Lack of traditional education system like the Gurukula system, great.
@cwmyr
@cwmyr 2 жыл бұрын
All right wing, faschistoid points. Fuck tradition and pride in culture. Also your arguments sexist, but framed as protecting women. Hindu nationalism is shit, just like any other nationalism, but also pretty funny to use it to try to argue against British nationalism. If one is valid, so is the other.
@naveenrajaelangovan4641
@naveenrajaelangovan4641 2 жыл бұрын
@@victord9814 education system first laid out were carefully made to enable Indians to work as office clerks. (Lord Macaulay's minutes) 1835. the second and third generation Indians who benefited from basic reading made into political system and with demands and legislation brought wide spread education. steps were taken only after 1900s for wide spread primary, secondary education. This was by Indian legislators under British rule. If British were truely benevolent in character they could have easily brought Education to all in first go. If British were to claim legacy of developing India, they must have made Industrial revolution here. Instead they took raw materials from here drained our resources to fuel Industrial revolution of Britain.
@cyrilsneer5957
@cyrilsneer5957 Жыл бұрын
You India need communism badly. Your caste system stinks. And its racist to dark skin people.
@madarauchih443
@madarauchih443 4 жыл бұрын
Never mess with tharoor, he is ❤
@brittanyhayes1043
@brittanyhayes1043 Жыл бұрын
@@IrelandAbu It was because British soldiers are included I. Those deaths.
@shafnaw9676
@shafnaw9676 Жыл бұрын
South asians (Indians/Paks/Bengalis) had weak men, with no backbone/strength. They have been ruled by the Pathans/Persians, Mongols/mughals and then British. The men of these territories are so proud that they fought for the empire like a loyal dog.
@upadhyayrathiraj1518
@upadhyayrathiraj1518 Жыл бұрын
British aid to India is less than the "Fertiliser Subsidies" by the Indian government as put forward by Mr Shashi Tharoor.
@Andrew-tx9jy
@Andrew-tx9jy 8 ай бұрын
How much is India spending on it's space program whilst millions of her people go hungry?
@vaibhavraut9654
@vaibhavraut9654 5 жыл бұрын
This is A small demo how colonial would looks like before you go for Shashi Tharoor's speech.
@yoyo-lf3ld
@yoyo-lf3ld Жыл бұрын
A colonial yano. What a bigot you are.
@shafnaw9676
@shafnaw9676 Жыл бұрын
South asians (Indians/Paks/Bengalis) had weak men, with no backbone/strength. They have been ruled by the Pathans/Persians, Mongols/mughals and then British. The men of these territories are so proud that they fought for the empire like a loyal dog.
@CharleneAnneloves
@CharleneAnneloves 8 жыл бұрын
There is a bit of 'give and take.' From what I've seen, not only in India, but across the Middle East and Africa too, there is more of taking and less of giving !
@leroymontaque8459
@leroymontaque8459 2 жыл бұрын
Did he actually raise and argument against reparation? It was so weak 😂😭🤣. It was such because Britain does not have a solid argument against it because there is no way one can justify taking what was not yours that set a platform for ones continued growth to the detriment of those one oppressed. Their big argument is that they 'civilized' us to European standards.
@sharadjain2463
@sharadjain2463 2 жыл бұрын
Civilized us by making richest country to the poorest , literacy rate of 17 %, growth rate of 0.001 % for more than 200 years. Stolen all the artifacts and then flaunting them to the British museum, These people are such rude and arrogant despite they know everything they have done everything brutally and destroyed the countries they are not apologistic . Even Canada and Germans other western countries are polite than these.
@yoyo-lf3ld
@yoyo-lf3ld Жыл бұрын
Your country has taken things that weren't yours.
@zaethebitch849
@zaethebitch849 7 ай бұрын
But then Britain stole like 15 countries
@vikasvaddin8600
@vikasvaddin8600 8 жыл бұрын
Inferiority complex??? Clearly this man still retains Britain's colonial attitude. Somebody smack this attitude out of him. (not to mention the other crap he blabbered)
@samh3074
@samh3074 8 жыл бұрын
Vikas Vaddin I dont think you understand his point.
@vikasvaddin8600
@vikasvaddin8600 8 жыл бұрын
Oh really? why dont you explain it to me then? sam h
@rohithjnair2
@rohithjnair2 8 жыл бұрын
sam h Yes, please enlighten us.
@samh3074
@samh3074 8 жыл бұрын
Vikas Vaddin He's saying that if the British have to keep giving money to India then it buys into an inferiority complex that the ex-colonies 'need' the money from the British.
@mankanwaldeeprampal6482
@mankanwaldeeprampal6482 8 жыл бұрын
sam h - They are "giving back" the money, not "giving" the money. I hope that would clarify. :)
@PrashantS93
@PrashantS93 8 жыл бұрын
Looks like he's landed straight from the 1800's camouflaged by complete arrogance one can expect from a British colonialist with an overdose of SHIT. The only gentleman who'd partaken in this debate and had literally the entire floor on the edge of their seats was Mr.Shashi Tharoor. Thought I'd hear some classical good counter debates to Mr. Shashi Tharoor, but what I get is an emotional biased justification, which starts with a good logical advice of keeping it away.
@aromamit
@aromamit 8 жыл бұрын
limit of shamelessness..........better to shut up and listen to others.
@sauravsharan7212
@sauravsharan7212 8 жыл бұрын
How on earth can someone defend colonialism, feudalism and all the other instruments of human oppression. Mr. Richard seems to still live in Medieval times.
@blueterminator1727
@blueterminator1727 6 ай бұрын
He just sayin they dont own shit for their ancestors crimes
@terranceyeo3087
@terranceyeo3087 6 ай бұрын
@@blueterminator1727 and dont forget the uk was the only country to buy the freedom of slaves from their masters and finished paying in 2015, so will they pay it back to us or are we going to be mugs again and pay a second time
@Twocat5side
@Twocat5side 2 жыл бұрын
2:26 ask the same question to Germany They are paying reparations 5:04 There's a difference between common wealth realm and common wealth. Common wealth realm countries recognise queen as head of state
@Twocat5side
@Twocat5side Жыл бұрын
@@nickelchlorine2753 paying reparations is beneficial to them? If that is the case Britain should have done the same to get those same 'benefits' now
@jamesbanks2492
@jamesbanks2492 2 жыл бұрын
The world may have moved on but the people have not moved on and we're not going to move on until you do what is Right😎😎😎!
@jacobfield4848
@jacobfield4848 8 ай бұрын
There is no poverty today outside of the UK that is caused by the UK.
@Phoenix-King-ozai
@Phoenix-King-ozai 5 жыл бұрын
This guy is Nuts And clearly Unpopular
@piyushkhemka4382
@piyushkhemka4382 6 жыл бұрын
5:42 Shashi Tharoor take a bow !
@KGS922
@KGS922 8 жыл бұрын
The ''people who had no hand in the events paying money to people who did not suffer from them'' point is quite a strong argument in my view. A separate issue is the government making an official state apology in regards to any specific documented and widely acknowledged atrocity, that seems reasonable to me.
@theoa.6283
@theoa.6283 Жыл бұрын
What's sad is countries like England and America call themselves Catholic Christians Muslims. Blame your ancestors for not doing the right thing and leaving the debt sins of the father these people don't fear God they love money more than doing the right thing the camel is going thru the eye of a needle right now
@ChiragDeswal
@ChiragDeswal Жыл бұрын
read the history its not too long 75 years...my grandmother was not born free...do you have any idea what kind of effect that has on generations? Not to mention our industrialization was deliberatly beaten down in 18th century and turned to slave economy. Indians were generationally wealthy like white people are known to be today, and now indians are generationally poor. See what Im saying? Our grandparents had to sell everything just to keep up with taxes for 200 years and thats why colonisers and their descendants almost all of you directly benefitted from us. You may be innocent but the privilege you take for granted is measured in the livelihood of millions of indians and their insecure future. That's why its horrible you all arent taught the reality of UK and colonisation through trade. it was the worst.
@hbsupreme1499
@hbsupreme1499 8 ай бұрын
By that logic they should not World War 2 preparations up into the 21st century. Also colonialism was only ended in the nineties
@davolpatel
@davolpatel 8 ай бұрын
If grand father was looted and next two generations starved, and uneducated etc in my mind there should be repetitions to the survivors,
@_VISION.
@_VISION. 6 ай бұрын
Are the descendants not benefactors of the evils of their ancestors? How are you going to receive the benefits of such evils but claim you are also not responsible to giving back what was stolen? If I steal from you and hand those things down to my son, stop acting like you wouldn't talk to the son about getting your things back when the parent is long gone. The UK may not owe reparations for slavery, but they definitely owe for what they after it. The ongoing discrimination didn't just go away because slavery was abolished.
@rekhajha6331
@rekhajha6331 2 жыл бұрын
The more dislikes than likes says it all.
@krishpatel3156
@krishpatel3156 2 жыл бұрын
Yt removed the dislike count 😭
@shebsheb8850
@shebsheb8850 2 жыл бұрын
@@krishpatel3156 I mean, a video with 100k views and just 600 likes certainly wasn't appreciated by most
@swatisinha4527
@swatisinha4527 Жыл бұрын
I'm from India And I respect the fact that atleast they allowed an open debate On this topic
@winstonsmith935
@winstonsmith935 Жыл бұрын
The world would be an ignorant place if not for British Colonialism spreading and teaching the uneducated . They got Parliament, Schools, Libraries, Art, Science and the rest of trimmings of Colonial teachings. Why do they all flock to former British Commonwealth countries, Canada, NZ, Australia in particular?? UK the mother country is full of former colonials all come for the freebies , hospitals and education and free handouts the UK has to offer. So be thankful you advanced your standards thanks to the British. Slavery started in Africa by Africans and Arabs. The British abolished world Slavery, something you have conveniently forgotten through time.
@mehak5754
@mehak5754 Жыл бұрын
Ofcourse you will respect them becoz ur country is same like these oppressors, ur country is illegally occuping Kashmir from ages, I really don't get it how these Indian jokers go to International platforms and ask for reperations when they are doing same things to other people , don't they owe reperations to Kashmiris for killing their loved ones and oprresing them.
@uniformitydubliner9691
@uniformitydubliner9691 Жыл бұрын
I'm (not) sorry, but people alive now should not pay for the crimes of the dead.
@shafnaw9676
@shafnaw9676 Жыл бұрын
South asians (Indians/Paks/Bengalis) had weak men, with no backbone/strength. They have been ruled by the Pathans/Persians, Mongols/mughals and then British. The men of these territories are so proud that they fought for the empire like a loyal dog.
@improbablynotahooman5782
@improbablynotahooman5782 Жыл бұрын
​@@uniformitydubliner9691 They got the wealth by genocides and plunders. The UK is a parasitic country. Without a host body (colony), they're nothing and all their wealth goes down. Just look at their economy right now. Look at the amount of debt that they have compared to the size of their GDP. Their economy is not even growing. Their growth rate is just 0.5% away from pushing the country into recession. If they get the opportunity to repeat the plunders and genocides in other countries right now in order to save their economy then they'll definitely do it. Their track record isn't good either. Just look at their involvement in NATO war crimes. All that they do is try to avoid questions and let the time pass so that they could say that it's all in the past and we should look forward. Some dumbasses still believe that the brits have changed 🤦‍♂️
@warrior8017
@warrior8017 Жыл бұрын
5:30 look how angry he gets when shashi tharoor corrects him 😂
@Nattaferg
@Nattaferg Жыл бұрын
Yes. He really got a feather in his cap for Dr. Tharoor. He really came after him and India! It came out quite strongly. He is an arrogant educated fool......
@Andrew-tx9jy
@Andrew-tx9jy 8 ай бұрын
tharoor had his say then rudely interrupted the speaker, he's lucky he didn't get a smack...
@222tulasidakua9
@222tulasidakua9 29 күн бұрын
@Andrew-tx9jy Well It's called correction not interruption
@akhandpratapsingh301
@akhandpratapsingh301 3 жыл бұрын
7:34 because we're still poor and weak due to it From where does he get the confidence to say such stupid and illogical things And since he is talking of free discussion he should allow others to question him which he didn't in the video. Which is Ironic
@sharongillesp
@sharongillesp 5 ай бұрын
And ALL the British colonies have been suffering from poverty for CENTURIES. Wow! Such progress by the UK!
@sampadmohanty8573
@sampadmohanty8573 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it that we ask the present generation who have nothing to do with the exploitation to pay reparations? Can the speaker go to the former colonies where children do not have access to education, are malnutritional and have to work the fields without a proper childhood and ask why he/she has to go through a life so difficult and why he has to pay the price for his ancestors not being able to prevent the exploitations? The speaker's logic is beyond my understanding - by his logic if his parents steal stuff and then die and later the court finds that the stuff was stolen, then he should not have to payback the stolen object because his parents stole it, not him.
@DeepakSingh-dc9kz
@DeepakSingh-dc9kz 3 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of Dailymail’s article in the backdrop of Spycather judgment “ you old fool”.
@olavofernandes7286
@olavofernandes7286 3 жыл бұрын
1:36 : the look of a British man defending his ego
@stilicho8762
@stilicho8762 2 жыл бұрын
How inferior must somebody feel to demanad reparation from somebody for what their ancestors did to their own.
@hbsupreme1499
@hbsupreme1499 8 ай бұрын
The British Empire ended in the 90s. And it's funny because the Britt get reparations. For World War 1 World War 2 up into the 21st century.
@fumetsushi2723
@fumetsushi2723 2 жыл бұрын
If anyone is having trouble with the subtitles, just click on the three dots above the description and open transcript :D Have a good day!
@Sui_Generis0
@Sui_Generis0 5 жыл бұрын
The last points about richest people is ridiculous
@mitalisharma5305
@mitalisharma5305 5 жыл бұрын
Ask him.. Where does Britain stands today ?.. Such a silly speaker... 😂 Extremely proud of the harm Brits did to the other countries😂😂. If he were to wait for Dr. Tharoor's speech ... he would have ended up speechless by the time of his turn to speak.😂
@corywheeldon1538
@corywheeldon1538 Жыл бұрын
Under British rule, evidence suggests there were beneficial improvements, with an eventual rise in life expectancy and an increase in wealth for some sectors of the population and economy, notably for much business and industry. The british empire wasn't perfect but it did benefit a lot of countries economicly. Building schools, railways ect and had very good trade. The idea that the british empire was so evil is obsurd. It still ended slavery, brought us the industrial revolution, capitalism and also law and order. In many ways formed the modern world. But I repeat it wasn't perfect.
@larrybuchannan186
@larrybuchannan186 11 ай бұрын
@@corywheeldon1538 bitain has an horbl histry britain was responsible for the deaths of millions across the world
@larrybuchannan186
@larrybuchannan186 11 ай бұрын
@@corywheeldon1538 britain gave smallpox infected blankets to native americans
@prajwalbharambe343
@prajwalbharambe343 8 ай бұрын
​@@corywheeldon1538obviously white supremacist will love slavery. Igs not for you to decide but the victims.
@reallearner590
@reallearner590 4 жыл бұрын
@5:40 great job Mr Tharoor
@hemantojha2850
@hemantojha2850 2 жыл бұрын
Ok! Do pay us back but return the stolen artifacts to the respective colonies. Would you do that? Atleast.
@dineshpanda1994
@dineshpanda1994 5 жыл бұрын
No wonder this video has more dislikes
@akshaisankarp2205
@akshaisankarp2205 2 жыл бұрын
Best jocker I have ever seen in my life... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@foodscrazy9229
@foodscrazy9229 Жыл бұрын
Not in your life maybe in this decade or century
@pdpiper
@pdpiper 3 жыл бұрын
Is the full debate available to watch?
@ritupandey2324
@ritupandey2324 3 жыл бұрын
I found 3 vids one is of shashi tharoor and other two from opposition edit: i found 4rth of a Indian girl
@Edward4Plantagenet
@Edward4Plantagenet Жыл бұрын
India has Head of State - the President of India (elected). Head of Govt - PM (elected). We are part of commonwealth just so that you can feel good. Nothing more.
@sharadjain2463
@sharadjain2463 2 жыл бұрын
If Canada's PM Justin Trudeau can apologize after 100 years for Komagata maru accident where even canada had nothing to do with and Germans can apologize to Poland then you can also apologize . Britain is also country on this planet.
@shafnaw9676
@shafnaw9676 Жыл бұрын
South asians (Indians/Paks/Bengalis) had weak men, with no backbone/strength. They have been ruled by the Pathans/Persians, Mongols/mughals and then British. The men of these territories are so proud that they fought for the empire like a loyal dog.
@Andrew-tx9jy
@Andrew-tx9jy 8 ай бұрын
It happened 200 years before I was born, I didn't do it so I won't be apologizing. Get it?
@prajwalbharambe343
@prajwalbharambe343 8 ай бұрын
​@@Andrew-tx9jylie white lie. 1947 is 200 years ago
@prajwalbharambe343
@prajwalbharambe343 8 ай бұрын
​@@Andrew-tx9jyand you still enjoy the same wealth.
@karaokewaala9107
@karaokewaala9107 2 жыл бұрын
I like how he shamelessly just says "i find it unnecessary" and "The world has moved on".
@DingleDangle66
@DingleDangle66 7 ай бұрын
The world has moved on. Get over it.
@karaokewaala9107
@karaokewaala9107 6 ай бұрын
@@DingleDangle66 So if I come to your house and rob all your stuff and the next day I come and say "The world has moved on, get over it" You'll be fine with that too right?
@DingleDangle66
@DingleDangle66 6 ай бұрын
@@karaokewaala9107 That wouldn’t be the past, would it? You would be actively stealing from me right now. If you stole from my ancestors from 50 years ago, I would get over it. You didn’t think this through, did you?
@koliikhoko7836
@koliikhoko7836 4 жыл бұрын
Such arrogant is because Britain were never taught the bitter side of their colonised countries.
@pranavundalkar9680
@pranavundalkar9680 2 жыл бұрын
British government should at least apologize for colonization and as a symbol return kohinoor
@vinaykarnani9366
@vinaykarnani9366 8 жыл бұрын
is he nuts...... India doesn't recognize her Majesty as head of state and as far as development is concerned there wasn't any
@carmelpule6954
@carmelpule6954 Жыл бұрын
Following this speech Shashi Tharoor was an excellent artist of vibrant and vivid words found in the English language, where, rather than going straight to the final target, he stopped at a few waypoints along the way, and circles them with flowery decorative words, spending too much time on decorations, rather than accentuating of what is necessary at the final target. Shashi is truly both religious and political in his colorful personality as he knows exactly what is required to attract popularity, a true politician! His speech at the Oxford Union was good, but he would have been more effective had he looked straight in the eyes of the opposition rather than addressing the whole floor. Sir Richard Ottaway needed someone to look him straight in the eyes as he was deluding himself that he owed nothing to India. Dr. Shashi Tharoor speaks better English than Sir Richard Ottaway where the latter did not want to face facts by not accepting to deal with points of information. Sir Richard Ottaway is a typical " old boy" who wears eye blinders like horses, to keep him focused on the British task ahead, obeying his master's voice and being decorated for it. In Malta, my wife had close contact with Lord Luis and lady Edwina Mountbatten while they resided at Villa Guadramangia and there are a few parts of British History in India that Sir Richard Ottaway should come up to date with. He would cut a better figure if he answered points of information directed to him.
@cadenceenglish
@cadenceenglish 10 ай бұрын
Well said.
@funtimesatbeaverfalls
@funtimesatbeaverfalls 9 ай бұрын
If you read about some of the things the Indians were doing to each other before the British showed up you would be sick to your stomach. I could elaborate but you probably already know how depraved it was
@countbless3360
@countbless3360 8 ай бұрын
​@@funtimesatbeaverfallsYes. But victimhood fails to see history as it was and only through the glass of modernism.
@Arya-cs7kj
@Arya-cs7kj 6 ай бұрын
I hope you do know these are the edited version of speakers' arguments.
@braillgebra1706
@braillgebra1706 8 жыл бұрын
What was the conversation from 8:20 to 8:25
@srinjoymaulik7924
@srinjoymaulik7924 4 жыл бұрын
Also unclear to me, but it must be some sort of outcry for not being permitted to present forth points of information, for which the Honourable President of the House had to intervene.
@yaswanthbandaru2235
@yaswanthbandaru2235 2 жыл бұрын
Colonial history should be taught to reporters of BBC.
@shafnaw9676
@shafnaw9676 Жыл бұрын
South asians (Indians/Paks/Bengalis) had weak men, with no backbone/strength. They have been ruled by the Pathans/Persians, Mongols/mughals and then British. The men of these territories are so proud that they fought for the empire like a loyal dog.
@dougie_big_bo
@dougie_big_bo 3 жыл бұрын
This is so in unbearable to watch I paused so many times for a breather Though I completely agree with his conclusion.
@Sujayvikramsingh
@Sujayvikramsingh 6 жыл бұрын
@7:01 a sincere thanks for correcting the speaker... A well explained and specific point
@srinjoymaulik7924
@srinjoymaulik7924 4 жыл бұрын
@7:01 he finally lends an ear to a point of information, after refusing to do so earlier on.
@shafnaw9676
@shafnaw9676 Жыл бұрын
South asians (Indians/Paks/Bengalis) had weak men, with no backbone/strength. They have been ruled by the Pathans/Persians, Mongols/mughals and then British. The men of these territories are so proud that they fought for the empire like a loyal dog.
@liliththefirst1
@liliththefirst1 2 жыл бұрын
Reparations.... Repare what you broke or torn out of balance ! Repare what was unjustly done by your ancestors. Simply an apology or acknowledgement of severe wrongdoings, true understanding & most important : CHANGE of behavior can be reparation....for the lives BRUTALLY TAKEN out of the hand of freedom !!!!
@wephilips6651
@wephilips6651 2 жыл бұрын
The whole debate is pointless inasmuch as this guy says explicitly a country should never pay or apologize for something done by prior generations. If you believe that I guess that’s a legitimate argument, but it makes everything else he says pointless. All the crimes committed in the past become irrelevant. I’m glad Germany didn’t take this attitude.
@owellwellwell2418
@owellwellwell2418 5 жыл бұрын
The problem with reperations is: -How long do we go back? And there better be a damn good reason for whatever length of time. -How can we calcule how much wealth taken out when corruption was rife and documents are more than likely to be exploited and corrupted? -How can we factor in the positive outcomes in terms of wealth? -Who does the money go to? Especially with a lot of corrupt African governments that just take money from charities and keep it. -Why should the people in England suffer for the suffering of others caused by long dead people. Eye for an eye huh? -Where can we even direct money from with such failings in our own healthcare, millitary, education and councils? -Since much care is put into past suffering how can we be CERTAIN money we send to countries doesn't go into more suffering? These important questions seem to go overlooked by people just repeating "Britain's commited past crimes, we should pay" I don't deny the exploration of the past British empire, however if we start literally paying for the wrong doings of the past then how long before we arrest the children of criminals? It's the same logic. 'Your father caused the suffering of others, you should suffer.' I would also like to make a point that there was a lot of EMOTION involved from the speaker and the audience. We can't let emotion cloud rational ideas. There is no place for emotion in rational discussion.
@user-jg3pl2gg1n
@user-jg3pl2gg1n 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you and you should know that after the second world war Germany gave money to the Jewish state for what they did in the holocaust and the Israeli government took most of the money because Israel were poor country and they needed it( many people in the Israeli public didn't want to get money from Germany but Germany still giving money today to the people who been trough the horror of the holocaust
@60ritikanand69
@60ritikanand69 3 жыл бұрын
Just return the artifacts and jewels and we will be happy. We don't want 'reparations'.
@rajeevkunapareddy1182
@rajeevkunapareddy1182 2 жыл бұрын
you dont need to make uk bankerupt for what they they but that would be the case if they are to repay for the atrocities. jewels, artifacts, trade routes, allies, some wealth etc. in fact, uk did not even apologize to any of the colonized nations.
@agustinarcusa7696
@agustinarcusa7696 2 жыл бұрын
@@rajeevkunapareddy1182 trade routes... such a bad thing a war crime i might say
@thdoom81
@thdoom81 Жыл бұрын
@@user-jg3pl2gg1n so that is his point..how far did you go bac?
@equinox95
@equinox95 5 жыл бұрын
Pay us what you owe, Africa, Australia, Caribbean and India.
@user-jg3pl2gg1n
@user-jg3pl2gg1n 4 жыл бұрын
Britain doesn't owe nothing because the British people of today didn't harm any country today
@Haxerous
@Haxerous 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha, mentioning Scottish and N.Irish separation from the UK today it doesn't look like it aged well.
@speedlimitkyahai
@speedlimitkyahai 16 күн бұрын
The impact of colonialism was not limited to a temporary phase; its effects have rippled into the future, revealing many of its dark sides. The chain of events not only inflicted harm upon the people of nations during that time, but also continues to affect the current generation. Start by returning country's wealth that you have kept in the museums.
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