Dustin Lance Black | Full Address and Q&A | Oxford Union

[@josepha133]

I'm struggling with feeling shame for being gay. This speech just drove a knife through that shame. Thank you Lance.

[@bobbypoz]

Mareeen 14 you are loved and valued. Write your story, I'm sure Lance would approve. Big hugs.

[@shau-lin4629]

Mareen 14, have you read Lance's new book, Mamas Boy.? If you enjoyed this video, you might like the book.

[@raya.b]

We love you. 💗 Hope you’re well, 3 years later.

[@leslieshand4509]

Try very hard to never feel shame, you are a unique and incredibly brave. I have “you are beautiful” written on my mirror, so I can be reminded daily. Find your reminder

[@newfoundland3238]

You should never feel shame you are a perfect creation of god,he doesnt make junk.The people that feel hate should not judge.Live large honey,...... its your life!

[@kenz9113]

I'm obsessed with lances speeches so much. he's so mesmerizing when he talks and i am so proud to have somebody like him standing up for us and fighting for us.

[@kenz9113]

what??

[@ozmaozymandias6786]

Ignore them and focus on your own well being, on Lance's positive message and how you're going to carve your path in life. :)

[@alejandromolinac]

Honey, you like him cause he's hot.... He wouldn't be anywhere if he wasn't hot... Hollywood if full of homosexuals....

[@kenz9113]

well i like girls so the way he looks doesn't really affect me... and i know hollywood is full of lgbt people. the world is full of lgbt people. i like the way he writes and the way he talks, i appreciate his passion for equality and i think he is an interesting person. his face doesn't change that.

[@afud1015]

he knows how to penetrate through his audience's heart and mind, his good looking face and sexy body also the reason why most of his audiences paid serious attention to him. overall he seems like a decent and sincere person

[@mrJinsudbury]

Tom Daley is a very lucky guy.

[@geisteswissenschaft]

He got what he deserved...

[@tomdeininger7379]

Yes, Lance is an outstanding person.

[@JozeManuLOL]

I mean, Daley is also quite something.

[@The_Black_Caps]

Both are lucky to have each other ❤

[@effie5238]

I had no idea who Lance Black was in his own right,I only recently learned that he is Tom Daley's husband. I didn't know what the video was about before clicking on it, but from the moment he opened his mouth, I was enthralled by his story telling...so glad I clicked play...inspiring, funny, touching...beautifully said.

[@winsboy]

@@jesusislord1387 -- And how many times have you watched, J.I.L.? Btw, I was always taught that Jesus is LOVE.

[@dsy9578]

@@jesusislord1387 u should take a look again because it should be yours u little sob if u know what I mean

[@shau-lin4629]

Have you read Lance's new book, 'Mamas Boy'? It's well worth the read. It also has an audio version read by Lance. His mother was an unusually strong woman. Her story is how Lance became Lance.

[@treebles]

🙋🏻‍♀️ same

[@jessicapenney3261]

Omg this is exactly what I thought @effie ! Incredible!

[@maiakrudo]

I'm watching this in 2021 and I'm speechless. He's amazing.

[@coolgirls4855]

Totally agree with you

[@gayrohendricks9189]

ABSOLUTELY 💖

[@NDARDIS]

I could listen to him talk all day long. He is so captivating, which by definition simply means: capable of attracting and holding interest; charming. I think it is a word that sums him up very well. Love him!

[@alejandromolinac]

Like making a show nobody watched....

[@kenz9113]

y'know you don't have to put an ellipses after every sentence right? it's pretty annoying. and knowing about lgbt+ history is important in discovering yourself and joining the fight to help problems like suicide, stds, and discrimination. lance also wrote the movie milk. he spent about a year researching and interviewing people so he could make the story as realistic as possible. without that movie, many young people wouldn't even know who harvey milk was. for lgbt+ people struggling with sexuality or gender identity it can be very important to know that you're not alone and you have other people trying to help you. we need to start remembering people like marsha p. johnson, bayard rustin, and harvey milk because they were so so important in paving the road for what we have today and what we need to fight for for tomorrow.

[@YT-Observer]

Kenzie Q don't forget to add Anita Bryant, Jerry Fallwell, & Senators McCarthy & Helms.

[@cerileannewallace9387]

and Me Too

[@cerileannewallace9387]

and me Too

[@Daffietjuh00]

Damn, this was the first time I really heard Lance speak and I could not stop listening to him. What a fantastic speaker, so eloquent, well spoken and powerful. The way he really speaks from his own experiences and tells his own story is incredible. One day, someone should make a film about his life. I would watch it.

[@MP-nf3fp]

They're making one

[@JohnBullard-ve8wu]

Brilliant. Absolutely wonderful. I am not easily impressed, but you impress me. Such a broad minded, divergent thinker. Eloquent and committed. Thank you, truly. Very powerful. Keep hope alive.

[@deborahvickery9697]

What a beautiful soul Lance is.. we should all listen and learn from this gentle, beautiful man..

[@caleblow1456]

Lance speaks not just with intelligence and eloquence, but also from his heart. Incredibly captivating and inspiring. We need more people like you.

[@aydensimpson1921]

It’s what he practically does for a living lol

[@lukas6144]

Tears up during the speech.... One of the best LGBT addresses I've heard. I have to say I'm so obsessed with this smart ,charming, talented guy.

[@michaelhell364]

This is a fantastic lecture! Thanks for posting this event! Dustin Lance Black, you are an inspiration!

[@MrBurningHamster]

Hearing him speaking about who he is and what he does, touches my heart. I want to hug him.

[@TontoDan]

OMG! I already loved Tom Daley, because, well, he's Tom Daley. Now, I am equally in love with Lance. Regretfully, I was ignorant of the amazing things he's done for our gay community until listening to this speech. The first nine years I was with the love of my life it was illegal for us to be married. It was one of the highlights of my life that I was able to be married to my husband, Clint. Clint passed away last year. I am grateful every day, that the last few years of his life, we were together as husbands. Thank you Lance for helping make that a reality.

[@brecans]

Now I see what Tom sees in him. Not only is he good-looking but very intelligent and there is nothing as sexy as an intelligent man.

[@indirasharma8750]

Probably true. Yet zero sex appeal. Maybe that's why Tom strayed when the cat was away?

[@theenglishtongue1365]

Indira sharma, has anyone ever strayed from you? Not likely. That is probably one of your strengths. Being a sad lonely bitter person certainly prevents that misfortune from ever happening.

[@memento81]

@@indirasharma8750 how is that any of your business? You don't know what kind of arrangement those two have, so don't assume they are living by the monogamous standards of your heteronormative sexual boredom.

[@adamdiedrichs8216]

Great speaker for a shy person

[@indirasharma8750]

@@memento81 Dear Fool, who said I was heterosexual and monogamous ?

[@nemonkeyy]

maybe i'm not LGBTQ person. but i really love Lance and Tom.. and i dont know why? i just in love with this two guys.. with no reason.

[@Blue-cr5ym]

That's the thing they are so amazing you don't even need a reason

[@louh4452]

Neither i am. I became mesmerised about LGBTQ ppl after believing in Larry Stylinson

[@leslieshand4509]

Why? Because they are so incredibly passionate about what matters to them. It’s contagious.

[@skyazullopez6726]

Same. The two are not adorable but incredible because both are intelligent and with great sense of humor.

[@gwendolinedavina9456]

It's not for 'no reason'.... it's for the best reason of all... it's because they represent Truth, Honesty and Love 💘

[@daisyshiao3345]

though I am not a gay person, this is POWERFUL. I just love this speech.

[@amyyamamoto3070]

His passion his so addictive!!! Lance is such a great speaker!!!

[@sophieg5171]

such a powerful and amazing speech from Lance!

[@jacobmeadows7701]

As a writer, this is inspiring. As a gay man living in the American South with a very conservative family, I find this inspiring. But as someone who lives in an uncertain world, regardless of my minorities, I find this moving. I will use my voice. I’m thankful.

[@johannolivier786]

Loved to listen to Lance . What he shared is truly universal.

[@pattyallen3737]

Im so obsessed with this beautiful man, i started hearing him speak by accident and now i cant stop....beautiful man inside and outside

[@alaniz86]

I have to say that this is the first speech I really listened with fully attention. For years I've been hiding the inevitable true: We are still fighting for rights. Not just for the LGBT+ community. For everyone who is segregated because people denies that we are differently beautiful. Definitely, I need more confidence as Lance's to speak out about important issues like this.

[@markgilocteza6203]

There is a difference between a very well-spoken public speaker and a passionate public speaker. Not just the way one deliver his speech but by the way one could tell a story and the emotions that lies behind the words, along the lines. Dustin, you really an inspiration and an amazing motivational speaker. You just remind me just now that what we need, not just in the aspect of leadership, that PASSION is what we need. In the course life, only we could achieve our dreams and aspirations with the passion that we should possess. It is the drive that will keep us going. No matter how many times we fail or how long the road may go, we will get there in the end. Thank you Dustin. Stay inlove with Tom and an awesome dad to baby Robbie. -Love from Philippines.

[@zhamilyakussainova3038]

It’s 2:30 am in my place, I have to get up at 6:30 am and I can’t stop listening to Lance’s speech...What started as an admiration of Tom Daley as a cute athlete ended as a fascination with his husband who is extremely deep and dedicated person. Love him to bits, well done, Lance, you are the one who really IS doing difference in this world! Please, do write more, write books and I will be more than happy to read them

[@rijitasen5890]

" I get to marry to the love of my life he is sitting right there" ❤

[@thekengray]

A tremendously wise and ultimately human voice; Dustin Lance Black is an admirable man.

[@zoechoi7169]

He could be the first gay president

[@HannahHoney92345]

I would second that. He is just so articulate, thoughtful and compassionate. I would vote for him.

[@dancecommenter9305]

Pete Buttigieg is now a possible option!

[@lauren9131]

YES PLEASE

[@littleripper312]

Apparently it's very likely that there already has been a gay president but to be openly gay would be huge. We have a young gay man running now who might be good. It would be a huge cultural step for America. Lance doesn't need to be president to be a gay role model and to make a difference though. He's already having a huge impact.

[@tomdeininger7379]

I know what you mean. I thought that even before I read your comment.

[@marionv153]

Thank you for recording it. Lance is really amazing! What a speaker!

[@robinlaine6336]

just came across this talk and i am so impressed and moved by this talk/storytelling. this is how we lead by compassion, listening and storytelling after this is our humanity. thank you.

[@xCaptainJJx]

I hope that one day I meet that guy in person so I can personally thank him for giving me hope by telling his story when I most needed it.

[@shenadoa]

xCapitainJJx - Lance gives a few public speeches like this one in the US and the UK every year. He will be in San Antonio, TX June 4, 2018. He may give one near where you live.

[@xCaptainJJx]

Brian Strickland bad luck. People never come to my country. But maybe one day i‘ll be able to fly to the UK or the US. Thanks for your comment though :)

[@shenadoa]

xCaptainJJx - I hope that day comes soon for you. Happy New Year!

[@xCaptainJJx]

Brian Strickland thank you so much! A happy new year to you too!

[@arabellazocher42]

I started by watching a Nile Wilson video with tom in it, then saw one of toms videos with lance and saw him as this sarcastic and over it personality and fell in love. this then turned into me becoming a lance fan and I haven't turned back since. every time I hear him speak I am moved, he is truly an incredible person and someone I will look up to forever

[@just_me_1044]

Same here! Next steps are watching The Case against 8, Milk and When we rise...

[@claudialaurente2541]

I feel the same way. I am a huge fan of Lance now and that started while watching Tom's KZbin channel.... huge fan of Tom too!!!!

[@sequoiasempervirens6499]

@@just_me_1044 Consider reading Lance's book 'Mama's Boy'.

[@just_me_1044]

@@sequoiasempervirens6499 I bought it already, will read it during my next vacation 😉

[@sequoiasempervirens6499]

@@just_me_1044 Enjoy! It is a tear-jerker.

[@fuguefire1886]

I like the way he thinks, it's amazing how he approaches some of the arguments presented or the subjects he discusses. A very good address, I wish I could appraise this more than a "thumbs up"

[@valentinakurniasari489]

Absolutely charmed by Lance's great persona which made me felt as if I were in the same room, sitting as the audience. His words are universal statements that the world needs today: to be brave, be unique and just be you.

[@wingleung1978]

absolutly enjoy listening Lance's speech.

[@LETTYONLY1]

I really like this guy ....the way he tells this story. Whatever your thoughts, ideas, likes or dislikes..... hats off to him💕

[@abnormallyfunny]

Most extraordinary speech. I cried when he said "why would yo choose this?"

[@Blue-cr5ym]

Me too,😭😭😭

[@JoyjeetGupta]

Yup me too

[@ali-tube2967]

I did, too. It was heartbreaking.

[@ali-tube2967]

I couldn't hold my tears ar that moment.

[@Gyllsd1]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, Lance. I feel so honored to have heard part of your story, and then your thoughts of how we can work toward being more honest with ourselves and others, and achieve greater unity within our own diversity. All my best wishes for your continued success, both in your film work and in your recent marriage to Tom Dailey. You set a high example for us. Greg

[@winsboy]

Everything Lance said about speaking to those with different views than your own holds true of our best politicians. Ted Kennedy and John McCain were friends who worked together for the good of the WHOLE country, not just those from their own party. How sad and ironic that they both died from the same condition on the same day of the year. Maybe this is a sign that we need to return to the days of working together for the good of the whole. Beautiful words from Lance. I know his best work still lies ahead.

[@cool4ever329]

I watched the whole talk with tears in my eyes. It was captivating and absolutely heartfelt. I have been following his work for the longest time and it's head to toe incredible story telling.

[@jerryday12]

Mr. Black thank you for your words - fighting for the LGBTQ and others. Love to you and Mr. Daley form Jacksonville Florida the sunshine state.

[@theenglishtongue1365]

What a shining soul! I don't ever remember feeling so moved by a speech.

[@ilariapagano2781]

Honestly, one of the most inspiring things I've ever heard. He is unbelievably mesmerizing.

[@saramagdy2805]

This was in every sense of the word, amazing. I truly feel at loss never meeting, and very unlikely to meet, lance black. He is a wonderful speaker! Thank you for sharing this. Every happiness to him and his husband, Tom.

[@shenadoa]

Sara Magdy - Lance gives several public speeches in the US and the UK every year. Look up his speaking schedule. He may be near you.

[@yummboy2]

I am very pleased and honored to meet you, Lance Black!

[@harshm1456]

So good to hear this side of lance,was watching all his funny and dirty jokes in tom's video..i really love this man...he knows how to talk according to the moment

[@timothystock5680]

I am so thankful for people like DLB! Thank you Lance for all you do for us!

[@selenagomez5304]

I never understood what made a writer or director better at telling stories until I saw this. Lance is an incredible storyteller.

[@Loopylulu8]

These aren't stories it's real life.... Stories , are fiction...

[@selenagomez5304]

@@Loopylulu8 Real life are told through stories. Stories aren’t just fiction. Any account of real life or fantasy are told through stories

[@한라산구름]

Impressive speech❤ I came to know about Tom Daley at 2020Tokyo men's diving competition and now endlessly searching Tom and Lance's stories. We need more people like them.

[@alain6289]

I think that we have found Our Voices today through amazing Dustin, God Bless him:

[@JoyjeetGupta]

One of the best speech I have ever heard...he was speaking his soul out ... terrific presentation and articulation skills. Through this speech I only have an idea of him and I'm in love with that idea. Love and respect for you. Yeah Tom is really lucky. Oh! and he loves Tom which means he is similarly awesome

[@_Nadine00]

This is what I come back at whenever I feel like I need inspiration. What a speech, what a man!

[@mynameispiaivy8549]

honestly, lance is such an impactful storyteller and lgbtq+ activist. so happy you were able to record and share this moment.

[@reagandorton2096]

One of the most poignant, powerful speeches I’ve ever heard.... 💕💕💕 I felt this in my HEART. It wasn’t just words. It was the future.

[@tyronedeere]

Until today 31st July 2021 I only knew Dustin as Tom Daley's husband and father of Robbie but after listening to a very captivating Dustin tell the story of his life and the power of the personal story I have discovered a new enthusiasm to see and learn much more from him.

[@sequoiasempervirens6499]

Consider reading Lance's book 'Mama's Boy'.

[@bcnmanhattan5022]

Up til this I had no idea of how lucky Tom is. To share a life with this person I think is the ultimate level of happiness.

[@getwiththeprogramhereandnow]

I have recently fallen in love with Tom and Lance and came across this most moving and passionate speech. Everything he said is right. He is changing minds with that level of passion and any last vestiges of preprogrammed phobia has gone forever since being in their company. Bravo. A new world of love and peace is on its way when people have the courage to change the world to that extent.

[@siddharthgopinath4460]

What an amazing and articulate story teller. Such a privilege to be able to watch this.

[@bimdulidealwis890]

One of the best speeches that articulated the beauty of difference. He is a man worthy of an insane amount of respect and acceptance and so should his argument ♥️

[@claudine1928]

Every time i hear this speech, i'm so impressed and touched. To many people live in fear. And can lose so much, if they don't fit a particular label. Well spoken Lance, maybe you are somebody elsess Harvey Milk now.

[@annmoniz5721]

I love this man. Thank you Lance!

[@wernerwarga]

Well Lance, you made me cry with pride. I've been following you and Tom since the beginning. I love you both (now three) and wish you all the best.

[@retret-cc8yn]

Great talk, great questions, great answers! Thank you for sharing this with all of us.

[@amitadias8055]

This is one of the most moving speeches I've heard thus far. It is so empowering and gave me a lot of hope in a time where I feel so little of it. Thank you dearly

[@teejayoz1221]

If he was acting in his presentation, I would give him an Oscar for his delivery. But it was real and where are the awards for such performances that can inspire and motivate people? So much passion, depth of emotion, awareness, intelligence? I wish we had leaders that had even half the quality of his talent for speaking with so much impact and effect. Thank you Lance. We need more leaders and philosophers like you ❤️

[@sourichanhsisouphonh9405]

You are so brave to tell who you are and accept who you are ( I’m from Laos border of Thailand 🇹🇭

[@bakkudeku]

What an astonishingly AMAZING speech, Lance! Congratulations! :D

[@timechild5129]

Thank you for this video. It has verified my lifelong belief how lucky I have been to have been born, raised, and lived my life in Canada. I have never experienced the things that Tom Daley talks about in his lecture. Additionally I thank the United Church of Canada for its non stop dedication to human rights for ALL. In Canada the United Church was at the forefront of rights for ALL including the LBGT community, sadly the community has forgotten that.

[@shriteeash9187]

I am so obsessed with lance, i can just keep listening to him.. such a great personality and a great speaker 🤩 lance you are so powerful you can change the world with your words.. What a great personality! intelligence and funny what a great and rare combination 😍 Tom is super lucky to have lance forever (happy for them)

[@sarapetizzi8537]

" The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Sorry Tom!" I spit out water LOL

[@loveiseverything690]

Sara Petizzi what did he mean and why did he appologise to tom ?

[@nikkihart3337]

@@loveiseverything690 He's married to Tom Daley, who is about half his age. His mother chased after a man who was half her age at the time. "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree" is an idiom that means children tend to share traits/patterns of behavior with their parents, just as he followed the pattern of behavior of his mother.

[@loveiseverything690]

Nikki Hart thank you

[@sherryleclerc2743]

@Monkey Nutz Wow. She was just answering a question explaining a joke Lance made. Maybe you should take your own advice about manners--or better yet, take Lance's advice about approaching different points of view with curiosity (in this kind of forum it's pretty easy, because you can read back through previous comments to see where that comment is coming from).

[@stephanied1678]

I laughed out right hahaha

[@monicaf5906]

Dustin Black is an amazing public speaker. I'm impressed by his voice, his knowledge of his speech and how much emotion he put into this speech.

[@janicereidlinger9957]

Admiration. Gratitude. Respect.

[@mkschanz]

Very impressed with Dustin's speech. At moments I had chills and other times I cried. Just amazing good sir.

[@Smiler3846]

what an amazing speech! thanks for sharing

[@ra197088]

Thanks Lance! Brilliant speech, with so much life and passion. Inspirational and so glad you're still hear to tell your stories. It helps our cause and breaking down the barriers of "difference".. opening our minds to acceptance of others, regardless of sexual orientation, colour or religion. Thank you!

[@JoyjeetGupta]

Never have seen someone talking about hope and equality for more than an hour and after thousands of views not a single negative comment...MAN you are great 🙏

[@fatimahzainaldain5895]

His way of telling the story is just incredible ,,,, I would listen to him speaking for 10hr nonstop

[@Michael-ww4wl]

This is my favourite Oxford talk by farrrrrrrrr!!

[@cerileannewallace9387]

I love Dustin Lance Black He's is Such Amazing Man ❤

[@RickRSoBe]

A superb presentation, this is One that deserves your time, you'll be very glad that you listened in:

[@beatricesasso5932]

Lance you’re fantastic and an inspiration ❤️

[@johnhayes4456]

Bravo! Intense story compellingly presented. I'd like to hear what he is saying now about our political climate. My gosh, he and Tom are a couple with both panache and substance. Grateful to have found this speech.

[@sequoiasempervirens6499]

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[@jerryharbin305]

Dustin, what an excellent, touching presentation. It brings back the very painful experiences I went through with my Southern Baptist upbringing. I was often so close to suicide. I am so happy you and Tom found each other. You are both extraordinary people. You deserve one another. Both of you are inspiring examples of cool, intelligent, and very beautiful gay men. Loved it!

[@emmanordahl2284]

This was amazing!! What a speaker!!👌

[@emmanordahl2284]

And a beautiful American accent...

[@Lily-uo4tt]

so powerful, so fucking powerful. Tom is a lucky man

[@michaels7900]

dreamoutloud x And Tom cheated on him with some model a couple of times.

[@Lily-uo4tt]

did u ask him or u assume this from the Daily Mail article? maybe they had an agreement, maybe an open relationship.Lance denied the cheating several times and now they are married couple. So as far as we know they are happy

[@stevencorry384]

fuck yourself

[@Lily-uo4tt]

ohhh steven did I hurt your feeling? go back to bed and come back when u've learned the education mummy and daddy didn't teach you.

[@stevencorry384]

don't know what you are talking about

[@scorpvideo1]

Now going forward, June 7th, 2020, look what is going on. Isn't that amazing?. This is so prophetic, we are in a revolution in the U.S and around the world with the black movement and I think this is going somewhere, I think we are going to achieve something good. You may not get this message, but thank you Mr. Black for everything You've done for all of us here in the U.S. Yours truly, RIck Esp.

[@elizabethkeeling-carreau1873]

I loved this! What an incredibly powerful lecture. I only wish more people could experience the power and truth of your words. 🤗🇨🇦🤗

[@christian66ca]

The first time I heard of Dustin was the night he gave his Oscar acceptance speech. I can only say Thank YOU...if I could scream it I would.

[@Mac-ty5we]

What a GREAT speech!

[@summerkaye9039]

10:19 “Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Sorry Tom! 😉” 35:03 “I had the great pleasure, honor and joy of my life come true when I got to get married to the love of my life who’s sitting right over there. 🥰”

[@tonymatthewaustin9597]

Lance..... extraordinary. Beautiful.

[@komokosai]

What an amazing man, father, and husband.❤️

[@sequoiasempervirens6499]

One of Lance's gifts is his ability to create a safe space around himself and the person he is talking to. In that space he does not judge, he does not attack, he accepts his counterpart as they are. And then, within that space, something begins to change.

[@zli4819]

Puh, what a beautiful speach and what great advice and wisdom... I can only say thank you so much for speaking up and encourageing others to do the same.

[@calvindavis3641]

No matter how many times I watch this, Lance makes me tear up.

[@Marina-pe1gx]

The feeling of separately admiring two people who are married to each other...

[@renlakaulitz]

This is like the 3rd time I have rewatched this and it still brings tears to my eyes. What a motivational speech, what a good story telling

[@mary-annebarnett654]

Classy, articulate and mesmerising. Thank you.

[@janichua2401]

He is a very good public speaker...I now follow his and Tom's videos

[@brianmatthews1736]

I never knew who Dustin was beyond his written materials...this shows why Tom fell in love with him. He is honest beyond all, he is a wonderful man...

[@thomthom6268]

Watching this after seeing Lance's reaction to Tom & Matty's gold medal win. Robbie... you got two great parents. And probably a cool uncle too.

[@skyazullopez6726]

What I also like is the fact that Lance and Tom have their own separate limelight - Tom, golden boy-athlete, and Lance, the star writer/ filmmaker/ producer - otherwise, they would have stood behind the other's shadow. Robert Ray is a blessed kid.

[@sequoiasempervirens6499]

Have you read 'Mama's Boy" yet? Highly recommended

[@skyazullopez6726]

@@sequoiasempervirens6499 _Not yet. I hope to get a copy and sit down on rainy days - after I have checked my students' papers and projects, submit reports. Lol. I wish I have more than 24 hours a day. Thanks for the recom. I WILL find that book.

[@sequoiasempervirens6499]

@@skyazullopez6726 Enjoy!