Velocity systems SLAAP plate and British Army Virtus helmet Ballistic test

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[@interstellartravel461]

Hello, thank you for this video. Please do a ballistic test of the British Mk6a helmet as well (not the older Mk6), as these Mk6a helmets are one the models that my country (UK) has sent to Ukraine's armed forces. It would be great to know if we are actually giving them appropriate kit and no one else has posted a ballistic test video on this model!

[@dr_dacosta7870]

May you do a MiCH 2000 helming test?

[@dukenukem8381]

Way to support a russian company, which is just registered in Budapest but actually works from moscow

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

@@dukenukem8381 nobody is gonna play their shitty game based on this advertising

[@2woLetters]

@@interstellartravel461I’m interested as well, since I own one

[@precisiongaming8776]

As a Canadian I am so proud to be represented by oxide, truly a great "Canadian" icon.

[@thunderthys2077]

Same

[@andresvalverde5182]

eh mate

[@Struggle-Snuggle]

He's ours now, get your own Oxide!

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

Heh

[@ArtOfTheCarbine]

The Cascading Canadian.

[@MiketheMadness]

When we got issued our Virtus helmets, the troops engaged in the usual shenanigans and found that with a strong headbutt the helmets would crack apart. Thus everyone (not actually familiar with how helmets and body armour react to different kinds of impacts) assumed the helmet would in no way be able to stop a bullet. Glad you've cleared that up for us!

[@Salt249]

That is the most boot fucking thing Iv ever heard

[@silverpandaws6230]

It will still kill you with backface deformation.

[@weberismail1076]

Actually, the British army is not transparency enough on the ballistic level........ quite difficult to find info on this. You're right, really thank Oxide to test it.

[@Kramer_pphead]

one of my buds destroyed a standard issue soviet ww2 helmet by throwing it into a tree

[@weberismail1076]

@@Kramer_pphead Was his one in good condition?

[@Tremulousnut]

The Virtus program was a competition between several companies with competing package, and the reason why the British went with this Revision helmet, tis’ the overall price tag of Source’s package. The MK7 was a UOR, where they took an existing helmet shell (the AC900) used for law enforcement and counter terrorism, and gave it a different chinstrap system and bolted on the liner (commercial versions of NPA helmets aren’t bolted). With it being a commercial shell, it’s no surprised that it performed better than the Revision helmet. The Revision helmets aren’t 3A or anything close to it - They were essentially purchased as frag helmets if you go by the tender. Not all specs are public, but by the looks of it the passing criteria was 575m/s minimum V50 with chisel nose FSP.

[@Sam21721]

SLAAP'd that like button for this awesome helmet test

[@tacfrog_on_youtube]

Nice virtuous helmet mate

[@Disl3cic]

Tacfrogggggg!

[@Chiller01]

Does one virtue signal by wearing a virtuous helmet?

[@deusvult8331]

This is a virtuous mission snake

[@ValoTheBrute]

​@@deusvult8331 virtual mission?

[@osiris8637]

For anyone interested, the SLAAPs have actually been used by the SAS. One was spotted back in 2017 during the raids in Manchester and another on a former G Sqn trooper during training.

[@alfredfree3]

They’ve been around since WWII when Germany started using them to be able to pop their heads up out the trenches and still survive. But it was a piece of steel that either was welded, tied or hung on cams. Them choosing to wear them was due to their environment and threat level. So we’re talking about bottles lumber piping so they wore them to allow them a little more head protection. But I honestly hate how ppl test helmets it’s unrealistic and you’re purposely causing it to fail. Most of the time head shots aren’t squared up with it and close enough to shake hands. The rounds normally deflect off the curve of the helmet and the round has lost and continue on losing energy making less of a impact.

[@marcusborderlands6177]

​@@alfredfree3the helmets are supposed to be rated for square hits, so that's what people test. As for distance oxide himself usis special loads to simulate distant hits.

[@royd-l]

Would be interested in seeing what the ballistic capabilities of the SLAAP plate are on its own. If it can stop certain pistol rounds by itself, it might be a cheap upgrade to add some ballistic protection to a bump helmet.

[@handcraftedgetget2918]

I don't think them fuckin things are cheap

[@ShogunMongol]

​@@handcraftedgetget2918They're actually only like $100 off Arms Unlimited, I think they got a batch that some police agency ended up surplusing for whatever reason.

[@jeremys6930]

It should be brought into consideration that the virtus helmet entered service in 2014 which is significantly earlier than the other polyethylene helmets that were tested

[@Tree457]

The ECH was the first Polyethylene helmet on the block and it was made in 2009 I believe (one source says 2007).

[@karakarakiri9568]

@@Tree457 Isn't the first polyethylene helmet widely adopted the french spectra ? Would be interesting to test since Canada used it own spectra version.

[@jeremys6930]

@@Tree457That is important information to consider, do we know if the ech in 2009 (2007) had been at all changed/ updated since then. Another point of interest is the virtus helmet is a basically a licensed copy of a galvion helmet (Baltskin Cobra plus). And I wonder if the performance is the Same.

[@V3RTIGO222]

Polyethylene is a great protective material so long as you aren't concerned with back face deformation... With helmets, that's a big no-no... With squishy chest ribs that can take significantly more blunt trauma, that's not so bad given the weight savings. I believe that there's a few new materials on the market that are more protective than kevlar while boasting significantly less weight and bulk, making the package lighter and more protective... That said polyethylene is a very easy, cheap material to mass produce, but ultimately won't be as protective as titanium alloy or hybrid material helmets

[@SuperAWaC]

I wonder why we don't see PE over steel. Could use thinner steels that would resist backface deformation

[@kentuckyace1068]

​@@SuperAWaC spalling is too big of an issue, and steel is heavier with less protective qualities than even ceramics

[@dashans6175]

​@@SuperAWaC that and the combination with kevlar against the spall, maybe? Outer shell PE over thin steel with kevlar-backing/more PE?

[@V3RTIGO222]

@@SuperAWaC Honestly the problem with steel is if it does deform it is permanently deformed, and harder steel will splinter and fragment... that and the additional weight. Generally ballistics has shown that ideally you want to break up the projectile and catch the less energetic fragments which significantly reduces both penetration and back-face deformation. Placing a hard surface on the rear effectively means that the softer front offers little to no resistance in slowing the projectile, and ultimately reduces overall protection when the projectile or it's fragments goes through. I think a very hard but thin carbon/tungsten ceramic wedge, polyethelene layer, titanium sheet, then a more modern kevlar equivalent could be the most ideal method for stopping high energy, high penetration rounds. Titanium notably results in ricochets (more than steel even) but also offers more protection at a lower weight and PE is rather good at catching spall. By disrupting a round through different materials you typically have a greater loss in overall energy, standoff plating on tanks uses a similar principle but relies on air gaps to give the projectile more room to destabilize and saves on weight while adding bulk.

[@Bagginsess]

Titanium alloys with graphene trauma pad is the future. Look up that titanium shield that Edwin Sarkissian shot with a .50 BMG, a thinner version of that should be light enough for a rifle rated helmet.

[@pakman184]

HYPE for the C8 and Canadian armour teased at the end!

[@krabistheisopod1376]

The only thing I know about these plates, is that they sell very good on the Flea Market

[@Mozze]

they be savin my live many times bro, if you find one i would use it but if you broke ust sell it and buy a boss cap

[@EmberArcher]

After seeing every single one of your helmet videos, I am increasingly thankful I was issued a plane Jane ACH and just upgraded the suspension.

[@hajduk_lives]

This song is used in the intro of the skate video Es Menikemati, never heard it used anywhere else. This makes me happy.

[@dubmeisterxd2133]

love the tests; Canadian gear review teaser?

[@dlistmemer591]

Finally used those Norinco 7.62s. Nice

[@dlistmemer591]

I have the second box if you need it

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

@@dlistmemer591I do need it

[@Briggattonii]

Remember kids: ounces lead to pounds, pounds lead to pain

[@fiskersproductions]

No bigger pain than getting your brains spread out into your bucket

[@namenomad2088]

3:50 was just thinking that a SLAP plate would probably be nice if you're the point man on an entry team

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

There are ceramic versions made by other companies that have better ratings that weigh the same. It would be nice.

[@autisticANDarmed]

I mean I got it for $99 on arms unlimited and put it on my ACH for a while. For that price it’s definitely worth picking up even as a novelty

[@FrantisekPicifuk]

​@@MrEpicAndroid why?

[@rollieroulston]

@Global Diversity Coalition The Diamond Age Bastion appliqué plate, TRVTECH also make a ceramic add on plate. Hardheadveterans make a ceramic plate for their ATE GEN2 ballistic helmet, there's probably more out there

[@stahlhelmturtle9822]

​@@rollieroulston The diamond age bastion and the HHV add on plate are the same plates just with a different outer finish.

[@Blazerri]

Good choice of music, AT never disappoints.

[@twitchingkhan]

My theory is that this video was created using a voice synthesis of oxides voice so he can save time and money

[@turnip5359]

AI voices have that lack of range of human expression so you might actually be right lmao

[@BuffRANGE]

Bravo! Good Show!

[@curseditem8354]

i am once again asking for fajv biljon rokets

[@OSlaughter]

What if you test a slaap plate on an Altyn against M855A1? XD Great new video btw! Always looking forward to the next one. I've been a fan since the real Altyn helmet test you did that debunked many of the fake replika videos! When I saw it, I knew I had come across a quality channel.

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

Then it would be very heavy! Thanks bro

[@AlexNV75]

Bro would need a Herculean neck to support that weight lol

[@qwe304]

An altyn is ont a few mm of titanium, iirc only rated for 9x18. It'd blow through both sides.

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

@@qwe304 An Altyn is rated for steel core tokarev and can stop SS190 5.7 ammo. Watch my K6 video because I worked too hard for you to spew such ignorance

[@qwe304]

@@Oxide_does_his_best swear I read it somewhere, but fair enough. Still I'd be quite surprised if A1 didn't punch through, the polyethylene would not do much to slow it down and the steel core is large

[@donkey1271]

Primary advantage of the Virtus was the not insigificant reduction in weight, rather than ballistic performance

[@shadowninja8082]

Intersting video expecially for me since some of us in the Danish army are currently still using the Revision Cobra helmet back in 2012 they said it was the best helmet of potection on the marked well thats not true for sure but its doing what its should do stop fragmentation still suprised that it coulded hold up and defeat the AP9mm.

[@cgmason7568]

SLAAP seems like itd be good for breachers, shields, and mounted weapons

[@williamflowers9435]

Hello Oxide!!👋 Can’t wait for the historical testing! Any armor, rounds or helmets from WWI/WWII would be awesome 🪖

[@MS2000LIGHTMARKERDISTRESS]

Love this camera quality

[@WeatherMan404]

cant wait for the steel pot vid

[@MadguyWyleg]

Always good to hear Amon Tobin

[@Rapture_11B]

Im excited for the TW video coming.

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

It performed similar to an Opscore XR with slightly less deformation

[@PATTERDALE78]

One of my lads got shot in the helmet in Afghan by a 7.62 back in 2009 when we first got them issued. The round hit front centre and then defeats around the left hand side and out the back it saved his life.

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

I'd like more details if you wouldn't mind. Did it hit the mount?

[@ReviveHF]

When in high intensity conflict, this helmet works better than the High cut helmets of any type.

[@Ranstone]

Clearly not. The evidence is right before your eyes in this video. And the Team Wendy he tested next stopped a 7.62x39 subsonic.

[@marccronshaw7874]

@@RanstoneI think he meant by protection against shrapnel. As a high cut exposes your ears and sides of your head to the elements when compared to a full size helmet

[@robertking2580]

I love getting home to a new Oxide video.

[@cameronl8]

More of a general question but how do the highcom helmets compare to the ECH and would their arimid dynama hybrid preform better than a regular uhmwpe helmet?

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

Great question. I need to test their RCH

[@Sam_Falcon42]

WOO T-Blocc!

[@bunnyonabunwithagunnicepun5689]

Oxide’s shifting gears to testing Steelpots. Again. Patrons be warned.

[@SSRayner]

that giant hole in the middle of the plate makes it useless

[@Kai-ky6tf]

Cool

[@kidcheater5786]

4:28 made me feel a sadistic amount of glee, cementing my belief that the British military is still behind on many things and is slow to improve.

[@misfitmartiniable]

You have a gift. I was hanging on your every word. I have ADHD so to say it is impressive is an understatement. Thanks for the info. Can't wait to see what you do next. Also have a question. Which resin are you using? Do you have a brand you prefer.

[@ThatGinja]

Ah, an Amon Tobin enjoyer.

[@Punisher9419]

I think the UK need a new helmet.

[@Tremulousnut]

Unfortunately this was part of the package that won the Virtus tender.

[@FlatRangeOperator]

Slammin

[@oom9battledroid569]

Noble sacrifices of tacfrogs helmet

[@tacfrog_on_youtube]

☝🏽

[@Daimo83]

Took my Mk6A to Afghanistan twice. Nobody ever expected it to stop a bullet in the first place.

[@hunterjager9538]

The bastion helmet and its special plate would.make for a great test

[@kid1027]

I would love to see a very angular, steel up armour kit for a helmet

[@liamphillips2967]

Good shit I was hoping you’d touch on virtus

[@azisandwich]

Very nice indeed

[@supremesauce2047]

I wonder If you somehow could manage to get Indonesian made bulletproof plates or helmets and test em out.

[@XPEHb]

Давай ещё по шлемам постреляй, братуха. Реально годная информация.

[@CantonSecurity]

Arms Unlimited has SLAAPs for $99

[@christianbach4986]

DUDE!!, Your brother from Denmark here, in the Danish Armed Forces we use Cobra Helmet as well, we do not wear helmets to stop bullets, just fragmentation. I would rather wear a helmet that dosent stop a 9x19 round, have it be as light as possible and be able to mount my NVG's...

[@fiskersproductions]

You should really look into steel pots, they've been stopping frag since ww1 and weigh less

[@christianbach4986]

@@fiskersproductions You had to edit your comment after your brain fart?

[@fiskersproductions]

@@christianbach4986 it was a typo

[@skulldozer1462]

Then bump helmets it is then

[@CircaSriYak]

Virtuous =/= Virtus. Virtuous is a state of being. Virtus is a roman deity that represents Bravery and Military Strength. He can be seen on the flag of the Commonwealth of Virginia, standing victorious over a slain King.

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

cringe

[@turnip5359]

​@FukLeftists AndSocialists zyzz dancing to music

[@fiskersproductions]

that's crazy

[@PaddyInf]

I can understand why some may have concerns about the results here, but the fact is that the test does not replicate what the helmet is supposed to do. Military requirements are that the helmet has a specified V50. Once test samples demonstrate they can meet this, then they pass as suitable. The Virtus helmet passed this easily. It is designed to stop shrapnel to a set size and velocity as this is the main battlefield threat.

[@shawnhett7648]

How about a PDG? I've been interested to see how that stacks up against others the same range like the HHV

[@roufdrapht]

Man has the 5 inch riser

[@braydonjones1811]

I know you did a video on the xof gear from metal gear solid, is there any chance to get the closest thing to a sneaksuit or the battle dress from mgs? If not it's cool, I'm still finding the content enjoyable and interesting.

[@justaguywhoplaysfalloutsom1104]

Oxide sounds a bit different this video. It sounds like an ai trying to mimic his voice at times.

[@ryanvh7058]

I would love to see you test an Avon Protection helmet if you haven’t yet. They seem good quality

[@channel-rv4hz]

Curious to see how the M56/76 stacks up with the rest of the steel helmets

[@ATruckCampbell]

Judging by Mike's video on it, and assuming Oxide gets one with the same steel quality, I assume it will be one of if not the best, and will likely outperform some kevlar helmets.

[@channel-rv4hz]

@@ATruckCampbell the Iraqi Darth Vader helmet is an indestructible design blessed with the grace of allah i doubt it could ever be bested by infidel steel… if such a gift can be found

[@Super_does]

as far as i'm aware the thinking behind modern helmets is to stop fragmentation from clusters/drones/nades scrambing your brains rather than point black rounds.. also I think considerations for the helmet stopping rounds at TYPICAL engagment ranges for the respective army which again isn't point blank. just because something is rated for something it in no way tells the whole story. point blank with deformations like that you're probably dead from head trauma regardless of penetration and you seem to be making a very surface level and niave judgement of this equipment

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

Industry standard calls for muzzle length shots at specific fps. There are no ballistic ratings in the world that call for long range hits. It has to be a point blank shot to even mimic lab testing

[@HungLe-km2wo]

Hey Oxi can you test one of those surplus Pasgt helmet from the 90s ?

[@kenc9236]

The funny thing about helmets is they are usual on a soldiers head and not a barrel or held on a stick.

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

Headform doesn't change results :)

[@winterautumnfishing5215]

Funny how people lived calling the 47 shit when it failed against some pistol rounds, yet when it happens here people live to point out that helmets are mainly for shrapnel.

[@cantremember6794]

Can't wait for the steel helmets

[@Jake-dh9qk]

SLAAP would be effective for specialty roles like maybe MG gunners on top of MRAPs

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

That’s exactly where it’s found. It’s pretty commonly used in .50s

[@HelpfulPlez]

Always so cool to see these things tested out. Always was curious about the SLAAP. Just FYI Applique is pronounced "App-lick-kay", not "app-leak" tho.

[@patrickm4281]

Can you please test the Team Wendy EXFIL helmet that's currently being used by the Australian Army?

[@flonga1]

I have novice questions: are any velocity available to civilians and are they worth it otherwise? I see LE and MIL run them sometimes and they look great. I am wondering how they compare to other rigs and helmets. Thanks.

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

They're on sale on random websites for 100 a piece. Use your own judgement

[@flonga1]

@@Oxide_does_his_best thanks sir for the info. I’ll do my own research and find out as I’m not able to currently make a sound judgement with my lack of knowledge

[@2woLetters]

I got these surplus slaap plates for a good deal and slapped it on my chicom Militech fast helmet lol

[@johnd0e25]

Team Wendy is gonna be an interesting one

[@short4071]

So M855A1 is a pretty deadly bullet irl n in tarkov

[@allycatnaranjo8960]

They should cover the whole helmet in that

[@tanaziolopez1936]

Most necks would break

[@allycatnaranjo8960]

@@tanaziolopez1936 I doubt that. They could use some sort of heck mount

[@brycemorgan6708]

@@tanaziolopez1936not if people worked out their necks like they do chest and arms

[@jennifertosto878]

Is this the oxide in Maddie's channel? If I have the wrong one I do apologize!

[@a.t6066]

Wouldnt want you to shoot that ww1 helmet but what is it rated for with the machine gunners front plate on it?

[@neilbowness6074]

All I’m gonna say is if you got hit centre helmet with a steel core on a slap with no penetration you’re out of action, spinal damage,TBI, a colleague took a round to a tbh 2 111a, minor penetration but deflected the round,he’s still around, 99% of helmets are only designed for for frag regardless of material, the mk7a was a good helmet if a bit heavy.

[@nicolas8098]

Fragmentation from mortars and other artillery can often be more violent than 9x19

[@Liionhawt]

I want to see a highcom rifle rated helmet and their striker line for comparison to an opscore or a ech.

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

Donate

[@Liionhawt]

@@Oxide_does_his_best let me mail you my $2.5k helmet for you to destroy (I don’t own one) 😂 I’m hoping highcom sees this comment and donates one on my behalf.

[@fiskersproductions]

@@Liionhawt email them, see if they'll put their money where their mouth is

[@pokec.]

New vid lets goo

[@froginthewaves8450]

Very Cool

[@BobBob-il2ku]

Would love a opscore rf1 test can we crowd find that?

[@WAgunfun]

They called him a maple bar supremacist lol

[@JohnDoe-mp1yn]

it seems that polyethylene with aramid is the sweetspot for weight and protection.

[@thatoneguy454c]

I have said it many times but UHMWPE by itself is a terrible helmet material. I think that if it is layered along with aramid fibers like kevlar or dyneema it could be great if held togeather with the right resin, but unfortunately companies are not doing that and they are actively staying away from the topic of backface deformation.

[@koalakakes]

does it really make any sense to be testing these things at near point blank range?

[@joenuts5167]

That kruschiki smok

[@ethanyang9430]

Any chance you can test a Portuguese M940 steel helmet?

[@bigchunk7246]

Please try get some British plates and virtus armour

[@davidphillips8674]

We're going to need to see an integration of graphene into body armor before we see an advantage in protective technology

[@leflavius_nl5370]

Is that Kruschiki's T-block i see there? 👀👀👀👀

[@TheSpookiestSkeleton]

I'm really wondering if steel plates have a place on helmets maybe, could it be possible to redesign a helmet to be supported partially on the shoulders like a cowl?

[@Part.No.1xbil.Prod.Tp.MXMVIII]

I've toyed-around with the idea of helmets having a neck-brace-like collar to pair with, which puts the weight of the system into the shoulders rather than the neck, allowing for more material to be used in the helmet without as much concern for weight. The idea came to me from competitive jousting helmets which prevented spinal and concussive injuries in tournaments back in the late middle-ages. Considering that current fighting doctrine around individual movement demands the combatant present themselves square to the enemy to provide ample coverage of body armor; I could imagine specialized units being trained to wear more cumbersome and movement-limiting armor for quick surgical engagements such as hostage rescue or boarding ships at sea, wherein the comfortability of the combatant isn't a priority of equipment selection, as they won't be in the field wearing such equipment for extended periods of time.

[@ethancobb4002]

I dont think this will be a very popular option as its very common for people to assume the prone position during a firefight! This would be very uncomfortable. In addition to having to wear a heavier bit of kit, you could be out in the field for days or weeks depending on your role.

[@BlightfulProductions]

@@ethancobb4002 maybe an Aventail counterweight/nape protection could be considered?

[@darthsidious4499]

Can you do a test on the revision viper a3 vs the viper p2?

[@Longshot88]

I wonder if the SLAAP plate works with a ballistic visor on a PASGT? I'll have to check it

[@robsmotos9899]

From using the mk7 and virtus the virtus is much lighter

[@Oxide_does_his_best]

I don't have a Mk7 on hand to compare in person. Having to rely on internet sources for that metric

[@tacfrog_on_youtube]

@@Oxide_does_his_best remember that I can still help with that ;)

[@milestrueman4352]

Virtus - 2.98lbs Mk7 - 3.02lbs From my own helmets I currently own and have just weighed

[@antonwearsakilt5209]

With today's technology one would think we would have a modern steel hybrid helmet that could cope with at least a 308 winmag hitting it.

[@buymicheats]

even with a helmet getting hit in the head would not be a good day

[@nade7242]

I think we can it's just super super heavy and expensive

[@SirDankington]

@@nade7242 There's also the fact that even if the helmet can stop the 308 from penetrating, the sheer force of the unexpected impact is no doubt gonna fuck with your neck.

[@nade7242]

@@SirDankington yeah but it won't kill you or anything, i think the main issue is that it would just be super miserable to wear but ofc this is just guesswork

[@ATruckCampbell]

We can, but it comes down to the same problem armored vehicles face, the balance of mobility/weight vs protection.

[@shaunbrown3010]

Helmets are mostly worn for shrapnel protection.

[@fiskersproductions]

Shrapnel protection has existed since 1914

[@Hardcore206]

Next Test UArms Tor D from UA?

[@brownsmock739]

Is this Joe Pera narrating? Guess he’s gone down a different career path

[@Struggle-Snuggle]

Anyone know what size SLAAP plate would work with an XL ACH? Asking for a friend..