Oyster Tips That Will Save You Money

[@geofftech2]

To clarify - You don’t get the Oyster discount with the Network Railcard, this is why I don’t mention it!

[@onlinefriend3889]

Any tips on saving with the Travelcard though?

[@TheSammy2010]

There isn’t unless you get a student or apprentice oyster. In most cases it’s still cheaper to be payg

[@jamescraig5799]

@@Andrewjg_89 Christ on a bike , lets go the whole hog and have a railcard for those people with ginger hair, by the way why in gods name would you want to go to Norwich?

[@philipcooper1756]

If you have travel card and you are travelling with someone else on the same journey, you can also get a discount for them.

[@everlonging3207]

Oh shame. I just had my new one linked with my oyster payg in January. I was told at the ticket window it did apply. Are there any benefits to linking the two?

[@rlamacraft]

The really winning move, if you work near the edge of zone 1, is to buy a zone 2+ travelcard and use it to get the bus (for free) to the first stop in zone 2. It can save up to £1000 a year

[@CuriousPavel]

agree with that one:)

[@tomatoeggs48]

Robert Lamacraft Hi, I’m new in London, and I’m not getting how you can save money since the travel cards allow you to use unlimited buses (and other transportation) anyway? Thanks for helping me understand this 😅

[@rlamacraft]

Céline Zhou Say you live in zone 4, a zone 1-4 travel card will be more expensive than a zone 2-4 but both give you free buses in zone 1 - so it’s cheaper to get a zone 2-4 travel card and each day take the bus from an office in zone 1, to a station in zone 2, and then the train out to zone 4 than it is to get a zone 1-4 travel card and each day take the train from zone 1 to 4

[@tomatoeggs48]

Robert Lamacraft thank you so much!

[@JudiJoseph]

Smart

[@DavidShepheard]

One tip you missed: Oyster cards cost £5 to buy, but it's a DEPOSIT. If you ever move out of London, you can go and hand in your Oyster Card and get your deposit back.

[@shadzscape]

Yes & it's great for tourists visiting London, usually they don't know they can get their money back!

[@ysabelestrada9288]

Where do you hand it back in?

[@shadzscape]

@@ysabelestrada9288 any underground station! - Simple go to the top up machine, tap your card on yellow point - then select - Oyster Refund on the main screen. It'll refund you all the money inside oyster card + Deposit = oyster card won't work anymore.

[@tarekali4u]

@@shadzscape they have changed it, it's a fee now of £5.00

[@shanebuk7919]

You should edit this as it has now changed to a fee rather than a deposit

[@amartosly]

If only more people knew that you can attach an Railcard to an oyster card. My commute which normally costs £3.10 each way (off-peak). With the discount it comes to £2.05 each way and the money saved is £2.10 total daily (there and back). Considering the Rail Card costs £30 that means I make my money back in savings in just over 2 weeks. Over the year this means I'll have saved £546! Thanks Geoff :)

[@hoshietenma4406]

How do you connect your rail card digital to a physical oyster card?

[@Sanginius23]

this all sounds quite complicated. In Berlin I pay 63 Euro a Month and can use all Busses, Trams, Ferries (!), U-Bahn, S-Bahn, RE and even ICE within the City Limits. Whenever I want, how many times I want

[@TheSniper9752]

That is an amazing price! I spend £80 a month just so I can travel between zones 2 and 4, albeit with 'free' buses. And trams aswell I guess, but I don't live anywhere near Croydon so that doesn't really matter.

[@davidjablonski_]

And in Vienna, I am paying 365€ a year for all public transport within the city limits. But then of course, it’s also a much simpler and smaller system than in London.

[@JamesTilsley1]

Yes but thus is the United Kingdom, we don’t do simple.

[@RuleBritannia1987]

London is more than twice the size of Berlin.

[@timor64]

UK obsessed with "break of journey". Germany got over that nonsense decades ago.

[@unniFI]

Saving money? On the tube? My two favourite things!

[@stephendines1936]

Living in Northampton I always buy a One day travel card as part of my Off peak day return when I travel to London.

[@NeoDerGrose]

Why? Buying travelcards nowadays only makes sense when buying the 7 days one, I don't even get why there still are one day travel cards, or at least, why you can put them on Oyster.

[@lkchild]

NeoDerGrosse because it’s not worth getting an oyster card if you’re only using it once or twice a year, and thus likely to lose it?

[@SilverScroll]

@@lkchild I haven't been to London in years. Still haven't lost my oyster card, and it still worked last time I did happen to be there.

[@NeoDerGrose]

@@lkchild No problem, just use contactless instead.

[@RomySews]

I worked out that if I added my railcard to my Oyster, and got off at Mornington Crescent rather than Euston and walked 10 minutes to work that my daily commute costs me £2.70. I also usually tap in after 9.30 but didn't realise that it was actually 9.27 so thanks for the tip!

[@jamesv1995]

Omg I have a 15-25 railcard for travel to and from uni and never knew when I come home it works on TFL! Thank you so much Geoff!

[@geofftech2]

Yup! as per the TfL Website: tfl.gov.uk/fares/free-and-discounted-travel/national-railcard-discount

[@jwburt1]

@@geofftech2 Hi Geoff, I just wanted to say that I've had all sorts of problems getting discounts applied before (in this case, from my Gold Card) - it's basically a game of speaking to people until you find someone who understands. Do you have any suggestions?

[@seeitsayitdoggo]

@@jwburt1 your best bet from my experience is to go to a London terminal, and into the accompanying tube station. Liverpool Street usually do mine. They apply discounts to cards multiple times a day compared to normal tube stations where it might only be once in a blue moon. Also make sure to register your oyster card to save having to remember a passcode.

[@TheSniper9752]

If you live in London, get the 18+ oyster card. It gives you a 30% discount on travelcards which often makes out to be cheaper as you can travel in the peak with no added charge.

[@oysterfarescentral]

@@TheSniper9752 Only if you're a student.

[@EdwardMason9000]

I knew that I could use a 16-25 railcard for Oyster discount, but I've always been reluctant to because I didn't know about the evening peak rule! I've been planning to buy a Paper Travelcard because they don't count the evening peak at all, and work out cheaper, but with this rule then I'll save myself lots of money, which is also helpful seeing as I've just bought a 3-year Railcard for the first time!

[@susansaich2223]

Don’t forget Geoff. That the disabled;Ed railcard discount also applies during the peak times, so we get discount 24/7 on all tfl, Br journeys.

[@oysterfarescentral]

He mentions that in the description.

[@gosportferryfan9409]

@@sbatty64 Ask a member of staff at the ticket machines or on the gate-line and they will do it fro you

[@chris3091]

The railcard one is super useful, I just got a job where I'll have to commute to London and I'm gonna take full advantage of this now

[@dominicfindlay]

I used to tap in before 6:35 , Get to work around 7:30, and leave at 15:30, get it off peak both ways. And therefore the 1/3 off . (With Railcard)

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Geoff’s Oyster, I can see it now. In the future it will be in a museum

[@MadCatPerson1977]

I use the Hopper fare a lot as I volunteer in Central London but live in Hillingdon, on the outskirts of West London. My travel costs are £1.50 each way, thanks to catching the 607 Express bus to Shepherds Bush and then 148 to Westminster, getting up early to be sure that I am within the traffic time window. Sure, it takes longer (even Citymapper says I am the 100% slowest commuter in London) at around 2 hours, but if it saves on my travel costs and ultimately how long I can volunteer for then that is a good thing. It's also a great way to see London, taking in the north of Hyde Park, Marble Arch and Park Lane. Yesterday the 148 diverted around Millbank and the view of the Thames was A-W-E-S-O-M-E. Other mornings I see cavalry horses out for a run. If needs be, I can still drop out and take the tube should the roads get a little stuck by traffic, but since early January have not had to do that yet. Taking the bus and tube would cost a minimum £1.50 bus and £3.30 peak tube (£8.20 for the day when capped) from Ealing Common and more for outer zone stations, i.e. Hayes & Harlington or Northolt. Go Hopper fare!

I take the 607 bus to Hayes or the Central Line to Northolt

[@manomaylr]

3:10 another point is that if you have a Travelcard covering say, zones 1 to 3 and you’re traveling outside that you only pay an “extension fare” ie pay the difference on top of that. So a journey from zone 1 to 6 will still be significantly cheaper because zone 1 is covered.

[@richardholmes6966]

Thank you. I've been cursing the fact that there's a 9.29am train from my local station. No longer!

[@dominicfindlay]

Mines 9:21 then 9:51 :(

[@elizabethp1289]

Great advice, much appreciated, for those who live outside London but visit frequently. Saves money and hassle to have insider knowledge of transport options.

[@shaun__3]

The off-peak cap in evening peak tip helped when me and me and my partner were in London this weekend. Managed to hit the off-peak cap on the Friday at 3:49pm when going to somewhere for 4pm, meaning the journey back out of zone 1 was free.

[@CityWhisperer]

Where I live it's so much easier. There's 3 zones, and with our equivalent of a standard Oyster card it costs 0,91€ traveling within 1 zone; 1,08€ on 2 zones; and 1,19€ on 3 zones. You can travel as much as you please whenever you want, it will always cost the same.

[@zenouskaramchunder]

I’ve been using the first tip for a while now, coupled with the discount from the 16-25 railcard and it’s brilliant, saves me so much money

[@smach24me]

This is the most useful Oyster Card video I've seen on KZbin. Great advice.

[@davidducey9071]

I don't know if anywhere else has this, but in Ireland anyone with a disability or anyone thats a senior citizen can get a free travel pass that allows you to travel anywhere you want as many times as you want any time of day, and if you have a companion pass, you can take anyone over 16 on with you for free. This works on all public transport.

[@ttrjw]

The no-zone bus is particularly relevant at interchanges. Going from Muswell Hill (zone 3) to Bank? (zone 1). Zones 1/2 travelcard - bus to Finsbury Park tube then change at Kings Cross for Northern line....

[@philippaboast8866]

Really enjoying your videos on trains, railways and the tube. Please keep them coming.

[@666Pixs]

Always Love watching these types of video. alway gets me ready for when i travel to london. Thanks Geoff

[@theintelligenthusband9039]

Within a month I cracked the Oyster card fare myself. I rented an apartment in Zone 3. Got an annual card from zone 1 to 2. Take a bus or walk to reach the station.

[@KateHistoryMysteries]

Tip one explains as someone who used to live and work in zone 3 why I managed to completely miss that there was an evening peak.

[@Foxys-Collective-Videography]

Those are fantastic tips I must say :-). Certainly well recommended I do say :-). Have a nice evening and take care Geoff :-). From your friend Foxy :-).

[@ElshadKarbasi]

Buses did use to have zones though... if you look carefully at most bus stops you can grey tape covering the zone number at the top of the pole

[@TheSniper9752]

Thankfully that stopped, buses are terrible enough as it is.

[@fetchstixRHD]

TheSniper9752: I have to say though that London buses (nowadays) are still relatively great and especially so when compared to elsewhere.

[@TheSniper9752]

@@fetchstixRHD Don't get me wrong, the buses in the city are amazing. But as soon as you get to the extremities they drop in quality severely. The 66 for example which is local to me is trash tier; I have countless screenshots where a bus is atleast twenty minutes late, and where two of the same bus arrives at the same time. Alienating those who just miss the bus, by leaving them with atleast a 10 minute wait for the next one.

[@norbitonflyer5625]

London fares have been flat since 2004, when Oyster was extended to the buses (necessitated by the Oyster reader not being able to know where you were going to get off)

[@engineerjim2018]

With a disabled railcard you get discount on peak as Jewell as off peak fares including both caps.

[@Tommyevans90]

With a travelcard I can get as far as Slough and Dorking on the TfL network even though they’re not in London

[@shawnee2759]

So I'm going to London for 3 days in April and I've been doing a little research to find the cheapest way to use the tube. I have found this blue Oyster card, but I've also found something called the Oyster visitor card. Now I don't know what the difference is between these two, do you (or someone else in the comment section) know the difference? Thanks!

[@CuriousPavel]

Geoff and trains... what a love story!:) thanks for the extra tips! We learn till we die. Although I am very knowledgable on the Travel in London Subject, I did not know that when travelling the other direction in peak times it is charged as an Off Peak. Looking forward to more videos

[@gamefan17]

Some questions: - If you hit the daily cap, do you still have to have enough money to enter as if you didn’t hit it yet - At Heathrow, you get charged peak fares at all times if your journey starts/ends or goes through Zone 1, if you hit the off-peak daily cap, will you still get charged peak fares here?

[@Gabriell0705]

With the paper travelcard (to use the 2 for 1 promotion) of 7 days from zones 1-2, if I want to go to Wembley stadium (zone 4), I can present the travelcard at the ticket office to pay in cash only the difference instead of full fare? If not, I thought I'd get off at a station on the edge of zone 2, and re-enter using the Oyster PAYG to complete the journey to Wembley. It's a good idea? *I already plan to use Oyster PAYG for the other 4 days of travel, including the day I arrive in London, so I already have Oyster at my disposal.

[@Feldiman2u]

I have travelled from Croydon (in Surrey) to Watford (Hertfordshire) on buses only and it cost me only £4.50 (but journey lasted between 4-6 hours)

[@Jacob-il4yf]

Croydon is London actually hence the London Borough of Croydon it used to be in Surrey in 1965 geoff marshall has explained that in a video

[@JackOfHarts96]

Disabled Persons' Railcards are valid at peak times too. So you can use those to get a discount at any time.

[@hansklaus6860]

why does the pricing system have to be so complicated? Here in Germany for example you usually just get a Month ticket and you're done.

[@jake4101]

The state doesn't own or manage the underground system, so the company that does, can use any legal method to extract as much money from the public as possible. In Britain the government aims to ensure the prosperity of large corporations, not the welfare of taxpayers and users of public services. Some of our train networks actually bong to other European state network operators.

[@john_smith1471]

@Hans Klaus, You can still choose that, monthly, weekly or one day ticket. But Pay As You Go oyster fares are cheaper when someone doesn't have set travel patterns, or is not a commuter. Its not financially viable to have a monthly ticket and only travel a few times.

[@CarWhiz22]

@@jake4101 Pretty sure TfL is run by the Greater London Authority which is the devolved government of London (so is basically run by the state)

[@kat42069]

You must be joking. TfL's system is way easier and more user friendly than any system in Germany.

[@ngdtmd]

Germany is many times more complicated because there's no Oyster-like system anywhere in the nation, so if you're not commuting, but travelling to another zone or transit authority, it takes ages to figure out what and how to pay for the ticket. Berlin is fine though, since they effectively have only 2-3 zones.

[@kabsonline1]

When we travelled on the morning 5:16 train from Chesham we were charged for a peak 1-9 Travelcard!

[@TheUnknownNexus]

Does reverse commute on morning peak also work same as evening peak? Before 9:30am from Zone 1 to Zone 2 will be charged a regular fare for example?

[@cristianescobar9997]

Very helpful tips, indeed. Regarding unlimited buses, the time limit is, officially, an hour, not 70 minutes. Besides, it is important to add that the trick won't work, unfortunately, if you have negative balance before you get on the second bus. If you're on, say, £1,30 when you hit the first bus, being left with £-0,20 when the second one comes, you'll get a red light and will be denied the trip by the driver.

[@MrMe345]

Excellent timing! I'm off to London myself in 2 weeks

[@CuriousPavel]

have fun!:)

[@derekwalker8697]

Can I ask a question please? If I was traveling around on DLR and I tapped in at Stratford then went to Poplar, stayed there 20 mins then went to Beckton stayed there 20 mins then went to Canning Town stayed there for 1 hour then went to West Ham and tapped out. What would I be charged for this please

[@GreatSageSunWukong]

I've got another one if your on unemployment benefit you can get a discount photo card that you pair with your oyster to make all bus and tram journeys half price with a daily bus cap of £2.25

[@brunovaillant972]

In Paris. Only 75, 20 Euros a month for 5 zones. Whatever the number of trips or peak time Plus a 50% of fare price subsidized by your Employer !!

[@everlonging3207]

I've not had any luck with tidal fares. I think TfL and companies rely on passengers not putting in a claim for a refund.

[@PlanetoftheDeaf]

I went back to University to do a Master's and a useful "perk" is as a full time student you can get a student Oyster card giving you 30% off INCLUDING season tickets

[@oysterfarescentral]

30% Student discount is ONLY on travelcard seasons. Single fares are at the adult rate.

[@LukeAlfordUKsteam]

When crossrail opens, you ought to do a meetup

[@dotsguard6246]

Set a date now, Geoff ... you can always keep putting it back !!

[@MadCatPerson1977]

As an idea, everyone on the meetup/flash mob should be dressed as Prince and have a singalong. "Purple T...rain, PURPLE T...RAIN!" 🎶#PurpleTrain

[@cmartin_ok]

Do you think Crossrail will ever open? In August 2018 we were assured that it was still on target to open in December 2018 and now there are question marks over an opening date in 2021? It's a fiasco and National Disgrace

[@MrRevika]

2021 and mid 2022

[@Gregdotgreg]

Trams are confusing, as they charge bus fares, but a Travelcard has to be in the correct zones. So presumably if you have a Zone 1&2 Travelcard, you will still pay £1.50 for a tram?

[@oysterfarescentral]

Yes you will.

[@oysterfarescentral]

Yes you will.

[@Theonintendo]

Great video ! Like it a lot . I want more of this. But as someone who has never been to London, you should do an Oyster/Fare video... but like for someone who has no idea of what zones are o what happened if you tour London in the underground and then tap out on the same station you came in

[@skyblazeeterno]

I agree for someone like myself living out of the London zones but quite frequently visiting I still have no idea IF an Oyster card is a better option for me as I usually get an all zone Travel Card for conveneience sakes as Im quite spontaneous in terms of travelling within London

[@insearchofpurpose5276]

Hi everyone, need urgent help. I will be travelling everyday for office from East Acton (Zone 2) to White City (Zone 2) Which way of transportation will be the cheapest, tube or bus? And which type of Oyster Card should I apply for? Thank you so much in advance :)

[@BruceJSkelly]

Have you done, or will you do a video of tips for people visiting the UK? I know about the BritRail Pass, but I don't know if that would be better than the deals I could get via some of the Apps you've mentioned in various videos. I would be interested in both National Rail and TfL deals that I could get as a senior.

[@robertallan7708]

Sorry to be pedantic, but touching in on a pink oyster pad won't _always_ be cheaper - for example if you made a journey from zone 3 to zone 4, changed trains and travelled back into zone 3 you're better off ignoring the pink pads. (I used to do this regularly getting the Overground from Walthamstow Queen's Road to Barking and then getting the District line back into West Ham.)

[@oysterfarescentral]

It won't make a difference. If it does then call TfL (and let me know on Oyster Rail).

[@RainbowSerina]

@@oysterfarescentral Another way it can cause a problem is if you touch on the pink reader and then touch out at the same station, that breaks it and it doesn't process it properly so you end up getting charged for zone 1.

[@oysterfarescentral]

@@RainbowSerina Can you give me an example journey ending at a pink validator station where this happens please?

[@RainbowSerina]

@@oysterfarescentral I've seen it a lot at Stratford, if someone starts at, say, Finsbury Park, changes at Highbury & Islington and touches the validator, then at Stratford they touch the validator then also touch out on the exit gate, it charges more than it should but I can't remember actually if it's a zone 1 fare or a maximum fare. It still shows on the ticket machine as a completed journey so station staff aren't able to fix it either. I know it definitely happens at Canada Water too, so presumably it'll do it anywhere there's a pink reader and a yellow one on an exit gate.

[@RainbowSerina]

Another example would be, starting at Enfield Town or somewhere like that and changing at Hackney Central, that's a common one I've seen too.

[@LS-bw7jt]

What's the cheapest annual fare from Turnpike Lane Station via Green Park to Canary Wharf Station? I'm happy to commute from nearby stations like finsbury Park or Tottenham hale if it would make the annual fare cheaper?

[@JohnnyPendleton]

What if I touch in at 5:55 in the morning and I touch out at 7:10 in the morning using an oyster card Which fare will I be charged? The off-peak price because of the touch in was before the peak hours or the peak price because I touched out during peak hours?

[@dominicfindlay]

The time is when you touch in

[@JoeGrohlDJ]

Off-peak because you touched in before the peak began.

[@oysterfarescentral]

Take a look at Peak, Off-peak and caps on the Oyster Rail website linked above.

[@JohnnyPendleton]

Thanks, guys. I used to live in London, but I've never figured out how this exact case works. I deliberately avoided those times. However, I knew many tricks from Geoff's videos.

[@george26633]

I came to London last week after 11 and a half years. I was wondering if my Oyster would still work and if the money was still there. Answers: yes and yes!!! 😀

[@khayr1]

I'm more impressed that you had ur oyster for 11 and half years without losing it

[@SubBronze]

Worth noting that trams also count towards the Bus Hopper fare, so you can ride on an unlimited number of trams and buses within 70 minutes for £1.50.

[@K-o-R]

Does the Hopper fare mean that if you mistakenly "tap out" at your destination tram stop you won't get charged more?

[@SubBronze]

@@K-o-RI would think so, since then in TfL's mind you are starting another journey which still counts towards the Hopper fare. I sometimes have to get off at a certain tram stop before my home to do something for 15-20 minutes and it doesn't charge me twice when I tap back on. And I don't think it is possible for any single tram journey to be 70 minutes anyway.

[@fetchstixRHD]

K.o.R: You shouldn’t get charged any extra for additional taps, provided that your first tram tap is the one that counts for the Hopper fare. With that said (other than at Wimbledon) once you’ve tapped into the trams it’s not necessary to touch any other tram readers during a journey (even if you change trams) and if you’ve come from a bus then all of the bus and tram portions may be covered under a Hopper fare.

[@BeaIsACullen]

Question for those wonderful people in the know. I regularly travel in from zone 6 to zone 1 within the morning peak times, however if I traveled the first leg of the journey on a bus and then only tapped in for national rail/the tube after 9.27, would I qualify for the off peak cap?

[@Madhatter1uk]

Mind boggling for people that live outside London and have no experience of oyster. I spend two whole evenings studying it and still keep learning more. How do you get a rail card added if tube stations are unmanned?

[@dominicfindlay]

You can't, would have to go to a busier or central station. They have a special menu on the oyster machine to apply it.

[@LtKernelPanic]

Thanks for the tips especially the first one. That reminds me I need to find my oyster card before my next trip to London.

[@tenzingayatso6401]

what oyster card recharge should we go for if we want unlimited travel in a month, applicable for bus/train/tube?

[@martywrigh1024]

The" travel for 2"railcard doesn't get the 1/3 Oyster discount ?

[@scooby6518]

Traveling from Wembley central to SILVER STREET , AVOIDING zone one using overground, I checked so I change in hackney central and take another overground is that right ?

[@ffgcvs]

I didn’t know about the bus. So if I take a bus and 30min later another bus, I won’t be charged because it’s inside the 70min window? Does that applies in 2022?

[@tinatime3221]

I am moving to Sidcup in Bexley but I can't see the station on the Tube map so am I taking the train to London or am I still taking the tube to London

[@mohibj]

Can the 16-25 railcard be used with a 16+ oyster photocard for a combined offer?

[@shahidiqbal3707]

Back in 2105 u could get an oyster card for 21 pounds and unlimited weekly travel in London irrespective of zones

[@marcoschindler676]

Since i don‘t find any information on the tfl website or anywhere else, can i top up my old visitor oyster card at gatwick Airport?

[@funcik1]

If I go for example to West Brompton and I want to head to Stratford and I touch pink reader and I go through central (picadilly, jubellie connection), would it assume I've avoided zone 1?

[@dominicfindlay]

The single fare finder shows a zone 2 fare for this. To go the 'zone 1' way if there are barriers for a osi I think it can tell you went via zone 1. This doesn't apply with this case as you could get district to mile end without any barrier then central to Stratford.

[@fetchstixRHD]

Don’t forget the boundary extension tickets you can get if you have a season travelcard too! Once I found out about that I was kicking myself I didn’t know earlier...

[@rodthecod7157]

I am looking at getting a zone 2-6 season ticket but will occasionally need to travel to zone 1 aswell, is this what you are referring to and if so how does it work?

[@fetchstixRHD]

@@rodthecod7157: The PAYG extension fares are useful and relatively well known about imo, but I was referring to also being able to do this to stations outside the fare zones too (e.g. with your z2-6 travelcard, you can get a paper ticket to certain stations like say Aylesbury, and that can be cheaper and gives you more flexibility of route) For the pay as you go extension version, you just need to make sure your Oyster card has enough pay as you go credit to cover the charge for the zone your travelcard doesn't cover, so in your example you'd probably need to pay only £2.40 for the zone 1 portion, rather than paying the £5.10 peak/£3.10 off peak fare for a TFL zone 1-6 journey (and the equivalent for national rail/both). If you go to a station with a TFL ticket machine, touch the "extend my travelcard" option and it should be relatively straightforward and guide you what you need to do for both your zone 1 example and travelling out of London.

[@user-do2rj4sf8j]

What is the fare charged if you touch in and touch out at same station within 2-30 mins?

[@disenchantedwanderer9033]

If I start my journey in the early morning and catch the central line train before peak starts, but it ends during leak, do I still pay off peak?

[@GaryJohnWalker1]

I've got a senior rail card and a gold card - hadn't realised there's an oyster discount! Any way to register with oyster you have one or other pf these cars rather than faffing around at the stations?

[@oysterfarescentral]

No, it has to be added to the physical Oyster card.

[@freza12345]

Do you just have to tap in say at 9.27/9.30 to get off peak? Do you have to tap out before 4.30 to get off peak? Or can you start your journey at 4.15 and finish at 5 and is that still off peak?

[@iansharp0309]

Hi, can you please give me some advice. I am going to London on Saturday 8/1/22 and will be travelling on Sunday 9/1/22 from Archway on Northern line to various stations within zone 1 and returning to Archway before travelling home. Is an oyster card or contactless best option.Thanks

[@georgemakrypoulias587]

I know that I can merge my phsyical Railcard with my Oyster. Does anyone know if I can do the same with a digital Railcard or do I need a physical one? Thanks

[@youtube-kanal2606]

Geoff, could you please make an explanation video about the Oyster system for non-Londoners? Cause I quite don't get it.

[@rlamacraft]

If you don’t live in London, don’t bother with oyster. It only makes sense if you’re getting monthly or annual travelcards. Just use a contactless bank card; the same daily and weekly capping applies

[@em8136]

@@rlamacraft what's the purpose of oyster when you can use contactless nowadays?

[@rlamacraft]

E M There are a handful of use case: commuters who want monthly or annual travelcards, tourists who will be charged high fees on contactless cards, and discounted groups like children, students, the disabled, pensioners, etc

[@youtube-kanal2606]

@@rlamacraft Yes, but I wanted him to make an explanation video about how he (and other regular commuters) use the Oyster card in a way that it is understandable to non-Londoners.

[@youtube-kanal2606]

@@rlamacraft Annual travelcards? So you pay once and ride as much as you want in the journeys you paid for? So why does he always pay for every single journey he makes?

[@Thetrainandbusenthusiast]

Hello Geoff can you add your railcard and get the discount without asking to do it at a ticket office?

[@HenrysAdventures]

Thank you for the tips! Some London Underground bashing for me is due!

[@funcik1]

Does 26-30 card is not only beneficial if you live outside London?

[@munaasd]

Any tips for travelling from zone 6 to 1 and back.... Also one worker stated you can't get discount on oyster if you travel at peak times is that true?. Thanks.....

[@daniellondon9721]

So if I would like to take advantage of the 1/3 off that the gold card would bring. What's the cheaptes price I would have to pay for one?

[@timor64]

Around £220/year last I looked. So you need to do around £650-700/year of off-peak travel to get your money back

[@daniellondon9721]

Thanks. I mainly only would use it for the tube, so that would be a lot of tube journeys needed.

[@norbitonflyer5625]

@@daniellondon9721 Cheapest Gold Card has, for the past few years, between Lapworth to Hatton, currently £172. There is also a season ticket between Central and St David's stations in Exeter, valid only five days a week including weekends, costing £152 a year which is reputed to count as a Gold Card.

[@benyarnall4888]

Come to the Midlands on our trains and trams

[@tarrenk]

Any advice on whch card to get if you're turning 31 in the next few months

[@bayuchemist]

it's bit complicated, mate!

[@samulihirsi]

no it is not, use your for minute and you get it

[@lindacamurato]

I am soon going to need to travel by train from London to Leamington Spa and back approximately once a month. Is it worth paying that gold card you talk about? Any advice with trains, it seems there are dozens of companies and price differ from one day to the next. Not sure how to get the cheapest fare every time.

[@melsingh6828]

The pink card reader does not work always. I was making a trip from Highbury & Islington to Dagenham Heathway, where I interchanged at Whitechapel, they charged me as normal. I emailed TfL and they say the discount was not applicable as it was nit the right way. The best way to use the pink card reader is to use Single Fare Finder and tap in at the stations they specify

[@philippaboast8866]

Geoff - in what situations does one need to tap a pink oyster card reader?

[@skyblazeeterno]

Interesting. I live outside of the London zones but quite frequently travel into London and typically get a Travelcard ( I like its convenience that I simply know it covers all zones and what it has cost) This typically will add about £6 to the cost. Is it possible for me to get an Oyster card and make savings?

[@f1ggyc]

Does the 16-17 saver get any discount? Or do you still have to buy a 16+ zip?

[@TheWestAnglian]

work on the railway and get a PRIV card eZ or work for tfl and you'll be saving tonnes

[@chesterrtx]

Pink reader is my favorite as I live between zone 2 and 3.

[@beta.3984]

I live outside the zones but I can get a bus to Kingston because of the legendary 465

[@jfwfreo]

I wonder why you get off-peak fares going into London in the evening but not out of London in the morning...

[@rogerbrown5558]

This is a lot more complicated than when I was in London in the late 80s and early 90s. We got an all zone weekly pass for unlimited travel on Tubes and Buses for a week, but not British Rail, back then. Simple, that was the best option. I know you understand the system today but it is a hell of a lot more complicated for the common commuter and do they understand the way they charge for each commute? Me, back in NZ now, long time. Just curious, I like your channel. Keeping in touch with change. I asked before but is there a chance of a circle line pub crawl?????? Love to see you guys try.

[@NeoDerGrose]

You still can get a 7 day travel card, but it will also cover what has been British Rail back than. Only thing not covered are HST, boats and den gondola, but you get a discount.

[@rogerbrown5558]

@@NeoDerGrose Curious what it costs today?

[@norbitonflyer5625]

@@rogerbrown5558 £19.10 for all six zones

[@rlamacraft]

You don’t even need to buy a weekly travelcard, contactless will automatically apply it when you exceed how much it would cost - no wasted money if you work from home or are ill one day!

[@johnp6987]

I thought the pink readers were to show you wasn’t going through zone 1 if travelling across London village, from say Barking to Richmond via the Goblin line

[@oysterfarescentral]

Yes, that's the main reason. The non zone 1 fare will be cheaper so you need to touch the pink reader to get it.

[@johnp6987]

Mike Whitaker I thought as much, it’s just Geoff didn’t explain the reason

[@januarybaby1063]

This is the content i like to see

[@Slapbass13]

I had no idea about the railcard thing! Do I have to ask at the station every single time though? I'm always in commuter rush, so might be difficult

[@steved8193]

No, ask a staff member to add the railcard discount to your Oyster card and it will stay on there until your railcard expires.

[@wiicow]

Is the railcard thing new ? I swear you couldn't use that before

[@Blue_Caribou]

*Any TFL bus. Be careful around the fringes as arriva etc. don't take oyster!

[@HM...333]

Very useful thanks geoff!!! i cant wait for more uploads. ㋛㋛㋛㋛㋛㋛㋛㋛㋛㋛㋛㋛㋛㋛㋛㋛㋛㋛