p.3 Real Navigation Officer Reacts to Costa Concordia Q&A

[@achunkofbutter]

Thanks, nautical expert water man!

[@sailorvince6442]

You are most welcomed!

[@VagrantHippie]

@@sailorvince6442 have you ever been called a semen?

[@13jhow]

@@sailorvince6442 You need this on your business cards :)

[@kinagrill]

Canada Edition tm.

[@empty_thesaurus]

@@VagrantHippie i sea what u did there

[@Calimbandil87]

"You may have saved yourself from the sea, but I will really hurt you" That is a badass line! It's probably good that the captain is locked up and safe.

[@GodZefir]

Followed by the amazing "I will cause you a boatload of trouble"

[@lulzdragon7339]

That line alone would get my ass back on the boat.

[@tykarulobano7060]

Real talk if a high ranking official is cursing and screaming at you and they crack a casual pun not trying to be funny. That's how you KNOW the distance between y'all is prolly keeping you alive.

[@lolloblue9646]

@@tykarulobano7060 The pun is only there in English. "Le faccio passare l'anima dei guai" isn't easy to translate, it'd be something like "I'll make you pass through the soul of all troubles"

[@AskForDoodles]

@@lolloblue9646 Damn, that's so metal. Italian seems like the perfect language to be angry in :D

[@Sovarium]

Thank you, Mr. Nautical Expert Water Man! We love you very much.

[@sailorvince6442]

So do I, I love you all!

[@icecold1805]

22:20 can we take a moment to acknowledge Int. historian's respectful attitude towards this whole ordeal? I mean, he ain't being subtle on his opinion of the Cpt. being a piece of shit, and even then, he still cares enough to worry about him being spammed or the girl and what not. This video was one I loved of him cuz he has humour and all, but when the time comes, he ain't fucking around with an event where 30 people died. he is respectful about it.

[@Hiraeth-zq8ze]

I’m an electrician, I don’t work on ships but I have seen emergency systems where emergency lights and some vital systems were run entirely off of battery power. They just have to be able to stay on for the time required by the NEC.

[@lauritoerni2080]

I work on a coastal ship in germany in a zone that still counts as "inland waters" (such as rivers, lakes etc), only one of our ships has an EDG, the others have an emergency battery pack that's supposed to keep the vital systems onboard alive for 6h (radar, rudder, position lamps, emergency lights, water pumps etc)

[@許進曾]

@@lauritoerni2080 keep the pump running for 6 hrs. Now that's quite a powerful battery

[@lauritoerni2080]

@@許進曾 oh no i don't mean the bilge pumps, i mean the seawater pumps to cool the engines

[@MostlyPennyCat]

Couldn't the EDG charge the batteries once it's up and running? Those batteries will need a maintenance charge during normal operations so they must be able to take power from the main bus. Maybe from the emergency bus too?

[@aaronstorey9712]

​@@lauritoerni2080 i Imagine these are small craft than the Concordia no?

[@X-SPONGED]

2:41 "But I gotta say having a metal gear version would've been solid" Vincent... Look, I love you and all, man. But the door is down the hall to the left

[@JBBrickman]

I started clapping that was hilarious

[@NoFlu]

Honestly, you gotta give it to Martin the Magician here. Many people would have just ran off, but my dude took the time to let out the foot-lady before running off. He's not the best guy, but not the worst. Good man, that Martin

[@flowergirl6242]

It would be cool to hear more about the Estonia cruise ship disaster - I heard they recently re-opened the case, and it would be nice to hear about it overall.

[@muhammadnursyahmi9440]

Oof, that's would have opened a cans of worms, i think.

[@sailorvince6442]

Absolutely, that's on the list!

[@maltegodkas4931]

@@muhammadnursyahmi9440 Not really, the reason they reopened the case is that people were not happy when the company that built the ship were freed from any and all responsibility, which I think is completely nuts and deserves a second opinion.

[@NoNameAtAll2]

casual navigation did a video on it

[@ToreDL87]

@@maltegodkas4931 Actually its a bit worse than that. Someone sent an ROV down there and found snapped girders (that are not supposed to snap). Add to that the fact that the Swedish (who had the ship first) tossed thousands of tons of boulders onto the ship before the original investigation barely even started...

[@AIextheguy]

Just wanted to say, thanks for explaining why they repeatadely tried to get Schettino back on board. I was always confused why they didn't give up sooner, since he'd seemed so insistent on not returning. The fact that as captain, he would be able to assist the people coordinating the rescue effort in terms of the ship's layout, makes a lot of sense and makes his decision to retreat all the worse. Cheers navigation bean

[@edweidemann7454]

I have a cottage on the beach in Ft. Erie Ontario. One of my best days was seeing you guys through a telescope, to find that one of you guys was looking at me with a telescope. I jumped up on my balcony, an,d did the arm-pump gesture to sound your horns. There was about a 15 second lag, and you guys blew everything you had. I was jumping up and down and giving you bows of thanks. I'll always stand with you, even though I'm an ugly American. Thank you!

[@somerandomguy5639]

Glad you came back my dude! Do you know Fredrik Knudsen? He did a video recently about the battle of May Island, and since there is so many marine navigational failures listed in the video, I figured it’d be interesting for you to have a take on the vid.

[@ecru_5819]

Oo! That's a good idea I'd like to see him cover it

[@Kaimax61]

oh no.... reading that battle of may island was painful.... when I watched and heard it narrated was even more painful... the amount of miscommunication hurts....

[@jffry890]

Vince would stroke the fuck out in pure rage. I'm not even a sailor and I was getting angry and yelling at the screen like, "Stop. Stop! FUCKING STOP!"

[@caioquicoli9389]

Yes

[@lordgraytiger3263]

I agree. Down the Rabbit Hole's video on the Battle of May Island would be an excellent review for the Nautical Expert Water Man to do (as long as he has some good Canadian whiskey handy....he gonna need it)

[@concinnus]

It seems a little unfair to blame the helmsman as much as the captain -- at least, until he rabbited. The helmsman probably didn't realize how out of his depth he was. It's Costa wanting to save a couple tens of thousands in salary that put him on the bridge.

[@kankeydong2500]

And also his dumbass crew members being negligent at their jobs. Schettino fucked up big time, but not without partners-in-crime.

[@Gilhelmi]

While I agree......... he still should have gotten 2 years........ at least. Along with the rest of the bridge officers. 2 years each and barred from ever serving in a position of responsibility (for protecting human life) again. 16 years for the captain was..... low. But given his age, he will be elderly by the time he gets out, so I can live with it.

[@mathiasbartl9393]

For a captain, if you are in a situation where a single misunderstood command can wreck the ship, you are 100% to blame.

[@aaronstorey9712]

Every source I read on who chooses the helmsman says the captain picks them. I wonder if that is true

[@gladiatordragon9219]

Pretty much everything that could have gone wrong on that ship went wrong. -Overconfident captain going at 16 knots toward shore, -Said captain refusing to take responsibility, causing the rescue operation to be there far later than it should have been (and not bothering to stay behind to help evac), -Hull breach occurred in the absolute *worst* possible place due to the helmsman going into panic mode and making a wrong turn (even a head-on hit might have been better - more initial damage, sure, but at least the generators are intact). If just one of these things didn't happen, the Concordia could still be afloat. Everything about this situation was just terrible.

[@officialromanhours]

Like he said-A series of mistakes.

[@Oriaks]

Well, you almost right. Another thing that could have gone wrong was coast guard leader being just as incompetent as captain. Fortunately for passengers, he wasn't.

[@hauntedshadowslegacy2826]

In aviation, there's a model used to explain incidents and accidents called 'Dr. Reason's Swiss Cheese Model'. It's basically exactly what you're describing here. A series of safeties were circumvented, putting holes in the layers of protection needed to prevent an incident or accident, and those holes allowed a course of events to play out and cause an accident. It's not just one thing that causes an accident- it is a series of things going wrong or being skipped.

[@andrewduong2740]

-on Friday the 13th, on the 100th anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic

[@Marina_7]

@@andrewduong2740 and with My Heart Will Go On playing in the restaurant right when people were panicking ...but really, idk how it works, if someone personally made a playlist of ambiance music for that cruise but if they did... Why tf would you plan on playing My Heart Will Go On on a luxury cruise ship???

[@bami2]

I'm so glad that this "semi-collaboration" with the internet historian happened, I thoroughly enjoyed his original video as well as your in-depth analysis of it, without it I would've never found this channel while it's a treasure-trove of information. You earned a new subscriber due to your excellent content.

[@sumvs5992]

"Write that down on my tombstone" Sailor Vince 1969-20420 Was a Nautical Water Expert Man and was mentioned in an IH video

[@tekdaystar345]

Was that last zero there on purpose?

[@davidplowman6149]

Here’s a comment for the algorithm. It’s a shout out to nautical engineers. My own experience confirms they know their stuff and this chief engineer is not an outlier. It’s a dirty and often overheated job and those who do it don’t do it for comfort or power. They do it out of passion. Even the officers. The most down to earth, intelligent, and capable officers I ever met were boatswain mates and engineers. Also, curse you for that one time you fixed that unfixable part and forced me to spend another two weeks cruising rather then pulling back into port and going to my apartment. Your knowledge of your equipment and intelligence was not appreciated!

[@davidodonovan1699]

"It not like he had her bent over the steering wheel at the time." Lol. Very true though. She may have been helping him destroy his marriage, but she didn't sink the ship and hence kill 32 people.

[@jojijoestar7233]

She died twice, you know.

[@davidodonovan1699]

@@jojijoestar7233 yeah. Lol. I know that she went threw a lot if stress in this whole situation, but yeah.

[@stalhein62]

Oh I would love to see you do a serious review of The Gentleman Pirate

[@frescopino7866]

It's honestly a good thing that the Five Star Movement threw De Falco out. They're a despicable party, even considering the Italian standard. He deserves better than what we can get him over here.

[@MostlyPennyCat]

So who are the "good guys", so to speak, in Italy? Which party?

[@alsocrumpet1991]

So glad you did this! I was hoping you'd do a reaction as soon as I saw him mention you! Nice one, you real nautical expert water man!

[@sailorvince6442]

Again, I am so honored that I got mentioned in his video.

[@dwarfwithattitude1723]

I work on vessels a lot smaller than this but what IH described is very much the same as what we have on our boats, Because of the way the the switches/relays work, the minute a system loses power it will instantly swap to another power supply, So I think you are both correct. Until the E-Gen is supplying power, the batteries will take the load and keep vital systems running. When power is lost from the E-gen for the last time however, the batteries will power the emergency systems until they don't have enough stored power to do so anymore.

[@Theegreygaming]

I am not a ship engineer, served on a U.S. naval ship in a former life and only really knew the basics of how that worked. but I am, by trade a network engineer and in all my experience, the battery systems whether it's for a rack full of routers and switches, an entire datacenter packed full of servers, or an entire ship is pretty much how you described. the batteries provide power until the emergency generator comes fully online, and one of the tasks that the emergency generator also does is begins recharging the batteries in the event that it too is lost the batteries can give you the time to save what you can, and get out. I'm sure he's mistaking the warm up time for the generator, with a second outage. as for placement, the ship I served on had its emergency generators (yes plural) were located either 1 or 2 decks above the main generators so there was a chance to get any flooding under control, it was also placed closer to the centerline so water couldn't flow directly into the space, but that is military design, not civilian design, sortof like comparing a hotel to a bunker.

[@Xavieus]

Love how this guy wasn’t a know it all about everything. There were things he was confident in, and on other subjects where details were missing, he simply gives his experience/expertise and says “that’s how it is on the ships I’ve been on, I could be wrong though”. This is exactly the kind of expert I like to listen to. A smart man knows what he knows and does not know and will not be ashamed of not knowing something either or try to fluff things up to make them not look dumb. Awesome videos dude. I hope people learn from your videos and do great things with the information.

[@paulmahoney7619]

Apparently De Falco was a member of the Five Star movement's left wing, and was expelled after he rebuked the party's alliance with a far-right anti-refugee party, some say that Five Star was going to break with them anyway and De Falco just did so 'too soon' but I find it kind of tragic that twice he was punished for trying to do the right thing.

[@serPomiz]

the 5S is "totally not a political party", started by a commedian that did not follow, a very good coordinator formerly alive, and the bulk of the "totally not politician" never had any previous job with human coordination as the focus (one of the main role was occupied by a guy which previous and longest carrer was in selling drinks at a stadium), and actually changed about 75% of the members that were supposed to be the actual politician because of "going against the policy" and arrests, twice, before even running for the elections. the falco saw this ship going down way before any of the members and supporters, he just went on looting connections and people there was need to know

[@paulmahoney7619]

@@serPomiz So it seems that De Falco has actually some good foresight and can tell when something's going to go wrong.

[@formerctgovernordannelmall1452]

Ooh, it would definitely be interesting to see our resident nautical expert water man review the Gentleman Pirate videos. A very interesting tale of a man on the high seas would be perfectly suited to this channel

[@fabiomora6491]

Wow! I never expected the Q&A reaction. Pretty good!

[@jalifritz8033]

15:25 Biology student here actually to create more artificial riffs old tanks,streetcars and ships,etc are regularly sunken into the sea after the removal of the oil tank etc.

[@lordgraytiger3263]

Love your channel Nautical Expert Water Man! I have a video game to recommend that I think is right up your alley. Star Trek Bridge Crew -- where you and 3 friends are the officers of a Federation starship, taking the roles of Captain, engineer, tactical and HELMSAN (hint hint) as you go on a "routine" patrol mission. All players must work together to make the mission a success. And blow stuff up. Lots of that. :)

[@sailorvince6442]

Ho, that's a good recommendation. Star Trek has been on my list for quite some times, but I never considered checking their video games.

[@lordgraytiger3263]

@@sailorvince6442 I should add you do NOT need VR to play the game now, you can just use controller or mouse & keyboard

[@yuuka4964]

Yes, I would love to hear some of the insights when it comes to older ships from you!! Please do take a look at The Gentleman Pirate :D

[@cursedhawkins1305]

It does annoy me that people actually thought Scatino abandoning ship while there are passengers still onboard was ok, literally in the video that has that phone call the audio came from people were defending Scatino's decision instead of understanding that for the coast guard to perform their tasks in these operations the Captain MUST be present at all times to assist them. Its why De Falco was so pissed in the first place that Scatino abandoned ship and why he was ordering him to get back onboard as he was AVOIDING legal responsibility for the crash, its part of the reason why he was put on trial in the first place he tried to avoid legal responsibility for an accident he was part of causing, its the same situation when someone gets a Hit and Run charge when they hit someone and do not stop to make sure the individual they hit was ok.

[@serPomiz]

I wish to believe that is a pun of how much of a piece of shit the guy is, and not a horrible mangling of the name

[@Foreststrike]

I'm glad I was FINALLY able to watch this video, because this is life-changing. I can't believe the original video was deleted, this is pure gold. ... And then I realize how fucking INSANE editing is. I don't even WANT to edit my video's at that point, I'd just post them up as-is.

[@CaptainJAS3]

SailorVince: Okay, that was getting dark. Let's take three seconds to calm down. Schettino: *flys off the cliff*

[@MrNightStand]

Plz cover the Stede Bonnet video. Absolutely loved it and it would b cool to see the "old fashion" sailing methods covered by a modern sailor

[@Shenorai]

Dumping shipwrecks to make artificial reefs? Nah. But I have seen concrete statues that were sunk to make artificial reefs. Cool stuff, honestly. Especially after the ocean denizens settle in. Also, I'd love to see your thoughts on The Gentleman Pirate. The Sundance Rejects series is honestly just as entertaining and informative as the Costa Concordia vid.

[@armistancer]

And Tanks

[@muhammadnursyahmi9440]

Bear in mind that those ships, tanks, whatever, are already have their fuel tanks, engines, lubricants, etc, drained off. A shipwreck with thousands of gallons of fuel would do no good to the environment in the long run.

[@Dan-B]

@@muhammadnursyahmi9440 Obviously you take the fuel out before hand. There are lots of instances of ships that were sunken responsibly and safely that are beneficial. If done properly, it can give marine life something to live on/in, especially in areas where it has been lost naturally.

[@pickleman40]

>nah Gotta love how modern people rebuff truth with such self assured narcicism. Ships bad, but pretty statues? now your talking! Sorry but you sound daft

[@johny__hazmat8133]

@@pickleman40 yeah, metal husks with no fuel in them is no different than statues. actually better cuz they make bigger and better shelters for the creatures. the ignorance is real with this one

[@skootmeister3994]

“Not a morning person.” I feel your pain. But the ol historian mentioned you? Damn that’s worth waking up at FIVE in the morning!

[@Sirtristepan]

and we're back at admiring "my" people's unending idiocy wonderful

[@Regnbuesolv]

De Falco is an absolute legend though!

[@Sirtristepan]

@@Regnbuesolv assolutamente!

[@chriswriter9087]

SailorVince, as a real life Navigation Officer turned KZbinr what is your opinion of the 1923 Honda Point Disaster? Do they cover it in Navigation Officer training? Have you seen Drachinifel’s video on the topic? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Point_disaster kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYXZlnqFj9Rklck

[@hazydaze9921]

For those who don't know about the Moby Prince disaster briefly mentioned in the video, the channel Facinating Horror did a video on it that I high key recommend. It's an absolutely chilling story (not 'scary' despite the channel title, just horrifying) ps. they cover quite a few less well known nautical disasters for anyone who hasn't heard of the channel

[@heirofaniu]

Honestly given how little effort that guy puts into his video you could also just read the Wiki article and get through it in half the time.

[@hazydaze9921]

@@heirofaniu cool.

[@Hayson898]

Me: (Born and raised in Alberta, Canada) *Hears SailorVince's attempt to do a Texas accent* Me: *Now having an existential crisis* It all makes sense now...Alberta is just French Canadians trying to be Texas.

[@sideofpeas]

I love your reactions to The Historians videos. Added new info, and had great, genuine reactions in all 3 videos you made. Part of me wishes you could react to more of his videos, hopefully the Bonnet video is up your alley, but its much less navigational information and much more historical summarization. I know the vast majority of his content isn't up your content alley, but one can dream! These 3 videos were great to watch, and rewatch, and rewatch again. Amazing job!

[@Inglonias]

It just occurred to me that if you want to try your hand at something resembling boat design, you might be interested in a video game called From the Depths. It's one of my favorites, and while it focuses on combat between vehicles, I was reminded of it because it does try to simulate the effects of flooding compartments, and one of those effects is that your diesel engines stop working.

[@JJtoob]

It has never made sense to me when people ask why a content creator doesn't put out videos faster/more often. Just enjoy what you got, turn on notifications if you want to see whatever they make next, but there is zero guarantee there will be another video. Of course, they would love to put out really good videos all the time, especially if they monetize them, because it will get them ad revenue and get them more subscribers, but there are a million reasons that might not happen or not at the rate you would like.

[@sampugh6404]

I have never been on a boat, but man your channel is amazing! Keep up the hard work and fun content! Can't wait to see more!

[@sailorvince6442]

Wow, thank you so much for the warm comment. I am really glad you enjoy my content

[@Kaimax61]

Lol, came back with a banger. Welcome back.

[@sailorvince6442]

Super glad to be back

[@prw56]

Was on the screen so briefly I had to slow the video down to catch it, but that is the first time I can recall seeing a comment of mine show up in a video. Neat. Funny thing, I was rewatching the main video, the Q/A, and your reactions to the main video, was on part 2 of your reaction and literally thought something like "man it'd be cool if he did the Q/A, but there's no way", and I went back to work listening to the rest of part 2, then autoplay brought me here.

[@Ukitsu2]

29:40 That conversation is PRICELESS. I don't know Italian but I speak a few languages to understand well enough what they're saying and HOW they're saying it. So much it's lost in translation

[@rgs8970]

Love these reaction/commentaries!

[@caodogao4327]

2:41 "But I gotta say having a metal gear version would've been solid" Thats when you earned my Like

[@Arcademan09]

YES, please cover Stede The Gentleman Pirate! Remember to bring snacks

[@rgmafi4900]

I was hoping you reacted to this!!!! Yay!

[@sailorvince6442]

Really glad you enjoyed!

[@prw56]

Had the urge to watch costa concordia again, but I actually preferred watching the versions with your commentary. When I archived the original episode I actually forgot to grab your versions, so made sure to do it this time. Btw had an idea, if you got a naval historian (maybe the guy you did the master and commander corrections with), you guys could do commentary together about something like Steve bonnet. Hearing about differences between then and now sounds interesting. Same thing could be applied to reactions to modern stuff too, even if the other person is just a buddy who also works in a similar position it can be entertaining. I saw a couple of lawyers react to a few good men and really enjoyed that.

[@enriquepasa]

@SailorVince it's amazing that wooden ships couldn't exceed certain measurements to reduce sagging of the hull. While iron ships have expansion joints to handle that. They were so small compared to these oversized ships. Have you watched Abandoned: SS America and Abandoned: SS United States. They have quite interesting stories

[@Not_Soundwave]

If I was a ship engineer on that thing, I would have been sweating solid bullets before we even shoved off because of how bad the design is.

[@TheBoxyBear]

Used to work for a company that developped software for the canadian coast guard and watching this video brought back so many memories.

[@Bzuhl]

"Ok that was too heavy" => IH hitting us with a silly clip to lighten the mood. Top notch rythm as always.

[@korky122]

i went on 2 Royal Caribbean cruises in the late 2000s and i remember we completed the safty drill before we left Florida to go to the Bahamas. had to put on our life jackets and go to our muster station thing and were accounted for.

[@manooxi327]

tnx Vince, was eagerly waiting for this

[@sailorvince6442]

Hope the waiting was worth it ;)

[@davidodonovan1699]

35:13 At first glance, I thought those motorbikes where pulling those mourning lines, to pull that ship to Dock. It took me a few seconds to go "wtf" "how" and then see what was actually going on in this picture.

[@huntercrindson3927]

I remember seeing a comment addressing the Moby Prince accident. So basically the reason why so many people died was due to the cost guard and rescue team decided to focus on the oil tanker while ignoring the Mayday of the ferry for 1 hour.

[@urielseptim910]

Wouldn't you want the main engines spread out, like have 3 near the front and 3 near the back, so then if one of the engine compartments flood, there's still a lot more room before the other 3 get flooded? Or spread all 6 over the compartments? Edit: Oh right, it's a cruise ship...

[@MalekitGJ]

The main idea is that you aren't getting T-boned

[@CruelestChris]

Not really, it means you have even more vulnerable electrical systems trailing through the intermediate spaces.

[@UBvtuber]

@@CruelestChris I mean, it still has to be better than having all six in the same two compartments next to each other.

[@CruelestChris]

@@UBvtuber The problem is, the more you spread them out the more issues you'll potentially have with faults in the wiring between them, plus it creates issues with piping fuel to them and suchlike if they're spread too far apart.

[@tbates1987]

it has more to do with the exhaust shafts that take up a lot of room and affect the pubic spaces. Its better to keep them grouped together though I agree it would be better to have one forward and aft.

[@wdgaster3953]

Hey great video happy your back nautical expert waterman

[@sailorvince6442]

Yeah, so am I!

[@Nikotheleepic]

Thanks for this video, I was curious about your reaction

[@sailorvince6442]

You are most welcome!

[@Tuilelen]

I really enjoyed you talking about these videos and reacting to them - even the non-nautical bits! ^_^

[@thecommentaryking]

Just to expand a little about De Falco's situation. His "demotion" in Italy is speculated to have to do also with his rise in popularity and subsequent use of that popularity for personal gains and also for stepping over an area that wasn't under his jurisdiction, ie the Civitavecchia Coast Guard control station. Also while praised for his efforts, he and the Coast Guard have been criticized for not acting faster and for their lack of knowledge on what was happening, especially when it was a call from a family member of one of the passengers relayed by the Carabinieri that started the whole thing. Nonetheless he was granted a position as supervisor in an newly created office of the Italian Navy's logistic command, in 2016 at his own request.

[@User-es3em]

Tbh I dont blame the coast guard, they were being fed lies and if it wasnt for Falco's intuition, there would def be a disaster

[@duelgundam]

@@User-es3em adding on: As pointed out, the Coast Guard at Civitavecchia was the first one to contact the ship, but rather than send one of their boats over to check, "just in case", they basically went: "'aight, cool. Take care now.", and didn't follow up. De Falco's side in Livorno, OTOH, smelled Schettino's BS, started prepping almost immediately. Unfortunately, they were dealing with a coward Captain who delayed sending out that SOS because he was basically in denial. It's not that the coast guard were slow to react, they were hampered by red tape, and an incompetent captain in denial of his own ship's situation.

[@User-es3em]

@@duelgundam Not to mention under the odd chance he was telling the truth, The coast guard would've wasted millions of dollars and risked embarrassing themselves in front of everyone. Falco took a HUGE risk initiating the rescue and risked his career in the line.

[@animeXcaso]

​@@duelgundam not mentioning how he spoke for reopening the Moby Prince case. No one touches the Moby Prince case if he wants to keep a career in the navy

[@oldgreggsmadmemes4431]

Great video and great job I think you would like the Internet historian Gentleman pirate video

[@sailorvince6442]

Thank you so much! And yes, I will definitely have a look!

[@Foreststrike]

So basically, when steering a ship in my opinion, you're driving a tank in sand. Sand is about the equivalent to water when you have treads instead of rudders. Instead of steering like a car with forward rotation, you steer like a tank that rotates with the entire body. Add in the factor of sand's loose nature, and you have low friction, something that can cause a tank to turn like a ship. Not sure if this analogy is clear enough.

[@andrewlucia865]

Not... Quite accurate. I'm kind of surprised that Vince didn't actually clear this up himself. Ships turn using the rudder, which is located at the back end of the ship. Outside of using the bow thrusters, which Vince mentioned wouldn't have helped much, the bow doesn't have anything to make it move side to side, so it acts as the pivot point on a lever. The rudder is what turns the vessel, but the tip of the bow is the pivot point of that turn, the ship turning by swinging the stern around the pivot point. Basically, a car that steers with its rear wheels (or how a normal car steers when reversing), instead of the front wheels.

[@Foreststrike]

@@andrewlucia865 Or a forklift, now that I think about it.

[@andrewlucia865]

@@Foreststrike Pretty much, yeah.

[@insensitive919]

A journalist running with a story that they know is a lie!? Imagine my shock! 🙄

[@jehoiakimelidoronila5450]

Though I'm a Filipino, that chef is telling the media complete bogus. He's telling them that in his perspective and/ or assumptions

[@superextempman]

on the point about any nearby ship hearing a distress call having to respond that also applies to fishing boats... several times on the show Deadliest Catch fishing vessels have had to drop fishing operations immediately and travel to other fishing vessels in distress. On the massive Bering sea that boat may be the only one close enough for hundreds of miles and the coast guard could be hours away. That fishing ship responding and conducting rescue operations could be the difference between the crew surviving or dying especially since the window of survival of being in near freezing water is minutes not hours.

[@superextempman]

on that note as a coast guard officer id love you to react to Coast Guard rescues/medical evacutions/ inspections on Deadliest Catch

[@shineepass8432]

last part of the video that explaining how he making his video is rlly mind blowing for me mad respect of of both who did and who explained u too bro SailorVince

[@casualbird7671]

Overall, I hope you very much enjoyed this. You kept mentioning points where you were only including more of the video because viewers wanted it- I hope you enjoyed including it

[@lolbuster01]

You're back! And for another great video.

[@sailorvince6442]

Yeah, glad to be back!

[@PROTOBLUES90]

Thank you for finishing this out. I really appreciate the input and explanation on some of this stuff I would have never understood or known.

[@4player470]

29:09 dude just used the travelling merchants boat from runescape xD

[@SpectroliteDS2400]

2:48 i'd watch the Metal Gear puns if i were you, or else i'll take my Revengance

[@MPdude237]

I feel like a Cruise ship is one of the worst places at Sea an Emergency can happen. In a commercial or Naval vessel, everybody is able-bodied, knows marine stuff, and is more or less just responsible for each other and that’s it. On a Cruise ship, you have hundreds of people who don’t know crap about being at sea, may be prone to panic, and not everyone is able bodied (elderly, children, pregnant women, disabled, etc), meaning that you have a crew of less than 100 taking care of 300+ people in an emergency. I am not a Nautical person so I may be missing something but excellent analysis.

[@eaglescout1984]

Electrical engineer here. So, I have no clue what the requirements are for ships. But, for buildings in the US (covered by NFPA/National Electric Code) generators operating egress lighting and other life safety systems have to spool up to full voltage AND the transfer switch has to close in under 10 seconds. So, I'm sure the backup generator on a ship can attain the same performance since generator manufacturers already know how to meet that 10 second requirement. Also, if you have battery backup, it's usually a UPS system, where the instant power is lost, the battery kicks on automatically. Which would be extremely important if you're relying on a radio system to provide continuous communication with shore. However, once the generator kicks on, you should have the UPS on the backup generator, so even if the generator works at first, it will switch power back to the generator AND recharge those batteries so they still have a full charge if you lose the generator.

[@attigator]

Yes, you should react to Internet Historian’s Gentleman Pirate video and Sam O’Nella’s video on the USS William D Porter

[@muhammadnursyahmi9440]

Oh, and don't forget the Russian Second Pacific Squadron by Drachinifel.

[@NodDisciple1]

@@muhammadnursyahmi9440 And K-171 Nuclear Disaster in the Pacific by Sub Brief.

[@Mordaedil]

I loved these reactions and I liked that you also reacted to the last part since it's always kinda of interesting to see what other people react to with recording tips and the like, I dunno, it tickles me something.

[@psixi2668]

2:50 I hate that I actually slapped my own physical knee in response to that pun LOL

[@sailorvince6442]

You are now my targeted public audience.

[@josephine7344]

Oh my god I love this!!! Thank you so much mr nautical expert water man!

[@heatheryllanes6925]

All 3 of these are great videos thank you

[@sailorvince6442]

Yay, thank you for the warm comment!

[@Mic_Glow]

- Is there water? "bulbul blub bul" - ok

[@jaredlebamoff734]

The whole situation of the crew abounding ship reminded me of the novel Lord Jim by Joseph Conrad (He wrote Heart of Darkness)- even complete with a crew member fleeing to east Asia lol

[@Vokabre]

Thanks for another video, great commentary there, nautical expert water man! 17:50 What somewhat confuses me, while i never had passenger experience on "proper" cruise ships, i did travel a bit on smaller passenger ships and roro ferries, with some of them sorta considered "cruise ferries", but there never was a safety drill, neither before or after Costa Concordia. It wasn't a local quirk either, as it were different companies from Baltic to Japanese/Eastern Sea. While i'm a safety engineer by education, i'm not familiar much with maritime regulations and i wonder why, could there be a clause that a safety drill is not necessary if the total journey is shorter than say, 72 hours or something? This sounds like not the greatest idea if it's true. P.S. 37:35 This whole affair looked a bit confusing in this regard indeed. Say, in aviation for example there's a strong emphasis on addressing the mistakes and issuing recommendations be it in engineering where there are technical errors, or crew resource management when there are human errors, instead of actually "blaming" someone.

[@dim_reapa8977]

Not a Nautical person here but just speculating based on something I do pay attention to (Maritime History) but in most inquiries into disasters at sea (such as the Titanic, but typically not cases in War) it's been down to heavily outdated shipping regulations. In the Titanic's case they followed the letter of the law in spite of what the ship actually needed (amounts of lifeboats being too few, having too few reusable davits, poorly designed "watertight" compartments etc). It seems the only time the shipping regs get updated its in the aftermath of disaster, seeing as the principle motivation behind shipping is profit, not safety. On your second point, well blame does lie with the crew. Scettino, as captain has ultimate responsibility. I do feel that the second he resigned his responsibilities by leaving the ship early and refusing to go back on sealed his fate. It was easy to both sell and believe a narrative that he was solely to blame. In a number of ways he was. It was his ship, his crew, his decision to be that close to shore. All the technology worked fine, and in a number of cases the Captain simply refused to use them. Whilst some innovations may have helped things, the principle cause was a cavalier attitude to procedure, discipline, communication and safety. The responsibility for ensuring those things are correctly in place is the precise responsibility of the Captain, and whilst his crew did not help, it wasn't an issue until it was, and people died as a result. Frankly he got of light. A number of his passengers and crew did not.

[@steampnk9896]

Yooooooo. thanks for reviewing man!

[@sailorvince6442]

My pleasure!

[@krashd]

When it comes to the media element journalists love fearmongering and scandals, Joseph Pulitzer said something like "News sells, bad news sells better", and today we hold him and his annual 'prize' as beacons of exceptional journalism when he really created fearmongering and made a mockery of real journalism.

[@spicypizza6116]

15:55 I’m watching these again and I saw this footage on a documentary this weekend. I was so confused by it because I couldn’t remember this from the actual incident.

[@sylvainprigent6234]

31:40 One corpse that i'm aware of. Dude, he IS saying that schetino is a dead man walking

[@andrewduong2740]

That, and there really was one fatality as of that moment. The recording, though funny, is chilling because of it. Yanks you straight out and reminds you how dire the emergency is and just how monumental of a fuck up the whole thing was.

[@kwag4]

Concordia’s emergency generator was located 11 decks above the engine room.

[@FederinzC]

I very much appreciated this your other videos and insights, thank you very much! I commented the followind on the original video, maybe it has its place here too. In Italy there's unfortunately a widespread culture of bloodthirst to find a definitive culprit and have its head, no matter the complexity of the situations. Populist politicians and gossip medias jump on it right away too. Luckily there are people and institutions trying to balance this, but the pressure to find and punish the "Patient 0" (Covid reference) is high on the justice system. Cpt. S. definetely deserves consequences for being in charge of a ship having an accident, badly managing the situation and then outright leaving his duty. But people also wanted a hero and a bad guy, expecting to make examples of them and leaving out "minor characters". As for the Moby Prince, that's a big and sinister story for the evidence of the accident clearly hints to big, dangerous criminal traffic and deep corruption of italian maritime institutions. Of course it was never cleared as it should have been, the victims and their families still look for explainations. Anyone in a good position touching the subject is playing with fire. That instead of petty (while possible) games of power and attention would much better explain De Falco's demotion (though we might never know).

[@VagueLuminary]

Really enjoyed your reactions and commentary to the video. Hopefully it's already been thrown out there but I would love to see your reaction to Down The Rabbit Hole's video on The Battle of May Island. Have a good day. :)

[@sailorvince6442]

Yup, it's on the list ;) have a good day too!

[@ReisskIaue]

Well, one little thing I have to add. Warnemünde, where Schettino had the accident with the Aida blu, is not a town of it's own but a town's district of the German city of Rostock (where its harbour is located). I had to add bc I lived for about three years in Rostock and in summer time I loved to spend time in Warnemünde at the beach.

[@lostnemesis]

That was actually a thought I had even if they had it on the lower floor with the backup generator just having it at the opposite end of the ship basically would improve the survivability of the system in case of emergencies.

[@psixi2668]

already the first frame makes me cry, holy shit is your interior decor pretty-

[@corneliussnow8215]

It's the Nautical Expert Water Man!

[@sailorvince6442]

In the flesh

[@dr.anderson1847]

Sailor Vince: *tells deep depressing story* Internet Historian: 33:57

[@VinceP1974]

Thanks for posting this one.

[@tomlawson4713]

I’m glad I found your channel, your reactions are very informative. I think you should react to Maritime Horrors on YT. There is a whole series of sinkings and such.

[@shohanrodrigues4438]

you are Correct. As per Solas Requirements emergency Generator will auto supply emergency power within 45 sec on cargo ships and 30 sec on passenger vessels by way of auto changeover interlock. emergency battery will give supply for navigation equip and lighting immediately after loss of main power, these batteries are later charged by the emgcy Genset as well once started