P90s Are Not All The Same

[@eddunay7518]

I spy a Benchmade knife! Good to know you care about quality in not just guitars. Planning on pickup up some pickups from you for a hollowbody Gretsch. Still trying to decide on whether to go P90 or stick with humbuckers (have a great luthier in my area so fitting them in won't be an issue, mostly just unsure if I want to lose the coil split versatility).

[@spaghetti_Steven]

Humbucker-sized P90s not being actual P90s is fascinating to me. Looking forward to learning why, thanks Dylan!

[@tylerevans1700]

Yeah same, just interested. But I can imagine it could be a few different factors that actually do contribute to the tone, so maybe it's not a %100 p90 it prob still gets you most the way there. I assume possibly something to do with the size limitation, but I'm ready to see what he has to say myself.. ✌

[@adrianwarner8686]

Vlogs are great, as you say, sharing a thought when you have it without all the effort of a "main" video is really useful. Take care man, keep up the great work. Addendum: Cool RC cars.

[@isaacramirez3729]

This is exactly what I've been wanting to know, thank you so much ♥️

[@jeremycraft8452]

I got a set of Artec humbucker-sized “P90s” and opened them up to make them RWRP. Their bobbins were PAF bobbins wound to 8.1 and 8.9 kilo ohms, with the magnets underneath. They sound pretty good, actually, but not like a P90.

[@michaelsavides8856]

Damn.. you worked really hard to get it the way you want it. I got a great deal on a brand new Cabronita. The guy told me at the store that it was p90s. I don't think so. I dialed it into sound good but I would like some insight on to make it epic. Because this guitar is insane playability wise.

[@NewHopeAudio]

@@michaelsavides8856 cabronitas came stock with “fidelitron” pickups, closest to gretsch filtertrons

[@polyphonicgroove]

I just dropped a set of your Soap Bar P90s in my Squier Stratosonic and they sound freaking AWESOME!!!

[@tomasjones3755]

Thx for the rubber tubing tip!

[@jpvvandermerwe87]

Yet another great informative clip. Thank you very much - keep it up !!!

[@mikez1975]

Would love to see some BASS videos. you have some awesome videos and very informative content that applies to bass too. But some bass specific content would be delightful.

[@zachcerasani3043]

Hey man. I’m an a c tech. Freezing is either low on refrigerant, not hot enough or improper airflow. I am sure it has plenty of heat to remove, so I’d rule that out. Be sure your motor is spinning the right direction....

[@timjones9727]

I’ve got a humbucker sized P90 in the neck position of a Tele. Regardless of the differences I don’t really mind. They’re a unique sound and I suppose that’s the way to look at it.

[@mtrooze]

There's a lot of buzz recently about staple p-90s. Lollar has been making them for a while, but Gretsch just started putting some in its Streamliner series, and the tone sounds great to my ears. How about an evaluation of standard p-90s vs staple p-90s?

[@tolvajakos]

i am really interested in your t90 pickups. you should demo them. i am considering buying but i can't make up my mind.

[@hiroprotagonitis]

Hi dylan can u do a video on how bridge types might affect sond? like hardtail, stop tailpiece, tele, strat trem, etc.

[@michaelinglis8516]

What's your desert island guitar and puckups Dylan? (Possible question for an upcoming Q&A).

[@b.rodclark7349]

I recently put a Bootstrap Screwdriver P90 neck pickup in my Tele and it makes the previous Strat and Tele pickups look like table crumbs because its tone's as fat as Heathcliff (lol!); in fact I recently learned that the humbucker's tonal characteristics practically come from early P90s. I used to always say that the Tele bridge pickup was hot as a P90 @8.5K compared to normal output in the 5K-7K range but this P90, estimated @7.6K, blows it out at a lava-hot 9.4K without overpowering and balancing both together is pretty easy although I don't use the springs; i rest it on wood shims.

[@iagobroxado]

Kohm readings don't have so much to do with perceived volume of a pickup as people seem to think!

[@b.rodclark7349]

@@iagobroxado how so?

[@NeoRichardBlake]

Dylan, I love that you didn't crap on any of the not-real-P90s. Different doesn't mean bad, it just means different. This is why I have so many guitars. Lots of different pickups to choose from. Also, I'm curious, I know humbucker-sized P90s aren't humbuckers, because they're a single coil, but what would happen, sonicly, on these HB-sized P90s (or I guess any single-coil, technically) if they were split half way down the coil to have two vertical coils with half the winds each? (Is this how a "stacked single-coil" or a "noiseless single-coil" is constructed?) That way, it takes the same space, same amount of wire as the one coil, but you still get hum canceling. Would this make it an actual "Humbucker P90" not just a Humbucker-sized P90? (Technically, it would be a humbucker sized, Humbucker P90, because, by the same technique, you could make a stacked Humbucking P90, in standard P90 form-factor right?) Would this screw up the sound of the pickup? It seems to me like if it's the same amount and gauge of wire, it'd still come out being similar to the original sound right? Pickups kind of confuse me, and it seems like every little change makes them sound a little different, so I'm probably wrong, but I love learning about them... EDIT: Turns out you already answered my question. 😅Thanks Dylan! Turns out I actually do know some stuff. In theory, in a perfect world, they would sound the same, but, because life, they don't sound the same. And I hadn't even thought about the fact that they won't sound the same, even in an ideal, perfect implementation, because you're losing the 60Hz band, so it messes with the sound a little. If think it's interesting that you don't make stacked pickups though. I don't view them as a compromised sound, but rather, a different sound, and a way to get a different sound without having to modify the guitar body. Like, I guess theoretically, would a stacked P90 give you more of a traditional humbucker sound, but it would fit in a P90 route? Good stuff Dylan! Thanks again! How Do Noiseless Single Coils Work kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKu4c6mCpNuWosk

[@PintsofGuinness]

yo can we get a demo of that tele sized p90? ive actually never even heard of one and im really curious.

[@DylanTalksTone]

On the way

[@rohanjangam511]

@@DylanTalksTone excited! Dylan, had a question. Planning to get a parts aster build with a P90 neck PU and I don't know what I want in the bridge. Another P90, regular tele or a humbucker. Can you please tell me what would match well and sound great?

[@DylanTalksTone]

Dude.... 2 p90s for the win

[@rohanjangam511]

@@DylanTalksTone awesome! Thank you

[@roberthastings708]

I watched this when it was posted and today again. Timely with the roll out of the Enduro model. Mr. Google algorithms? I gave been re watching some older posts and I get more out of them now. Yes I'm evolving. ☺️

[@Nainn0]

I always thought if it would be possible for a bass to have a differnet coil wired arround each magnet on a pickup. woul'dnt it get more signal ?

[@voodoocustompickups2547]

I did a limited run of the clears also. I still have about 25 sets of clear bobbins

[@ScatZacc]

Hellz yeaa who doesn't love RC cars doo some videos with them too sometime brother maan!

[@teledriver1398]

Dylan, interesting use of tubing as a spring, similar to a Telecaster neck pickup, at least for my 1996 52RI Telecaster. Do you find such an approach to a spring variant works with a PAF and/or a Filterton-style pickup? Is it better to stick with traditional construction (spring) methods? Sometimes I think the springs make things get...unfocused...as they can be physically tilted, directionally, toward the bridge or neck. Is this even a real issue?? Am I imagining it?? Basically, shouldn't the pickup always be parallel to the strings???

[@lloydpittonet]

The only drawbacks I've had with tubing (though the second is a design flaw on their behalf, not on the tubing idea, but it contributed) is that the tubing eventually dries out and needs replacing. It's one thing if you make pups for a living, or work in a shop, but buying a whole length of tubing for 2 inches worth isn't really worthwhile. I mean it's cheap so it's not the price, you just have a lot of waste as a customer when (not if) it needs replacing. The second is Seymour Duncan specific. They switched how they make their single coil sized HBs to all being mounted to a PCB, then glued into a cover. Makes it supposedly easier to assemble, right? I put a set of older vintage rails into a guitar and loved the middle pickup, so I bought another one to put into my everyday axe, and it was the *new design (new at the time, this was years ago) and I used the tubing vs springs, and being that they're so well seated, my pick constantly tapping the pickup broke the glue seal and the pickup fell into my guitar. Had to re-glue it with epoxy (Duncan wouldn't honor a warranty, as it was "wear and tear" that broke it. A month old and it's wear and tear...) So I stick with springs for guitars for others. My own though? I still use tubing cause I do like it instead of a drawer of springs.

[@sidestyle05]

The P90-ish Tele pickup you are talking about are pretttttttty close to a G&L MFD. The MFD has a single bar magnet (instead of two), a baseplate (like a traditional Tele) and adjustable poles. I'd be interested in seeing your take on that design.

[@DylanTalksTone]

We did that video about 6 months ago

[@sidestyle05]

@@DylanTalksTone In your expert opinion, are there improvements that could be made to the design, thus giving someone like you a reason to make a version or do G&L nail it?

[@angusorvid8840]

I recently replaced the pickups in my Yamaha Pacifica which came with a Duncan Custom 5 Trembucker and a Duncan Vintage P90. Both are fine pickups, but I wanted a bridge pup that was less trebly and a neck pup with a bit more output and coil splitting. So I popped in a DiMarzio Tone Zone in the bridge and Virtual P90 in the neck. Although I love the V P90, it do not consider it a true P90 by any means. It's more like a humbucker with two coils in a P90 style casing. I like to coil split it. Sounds great, but not a true P90. The Duncan Vintage P90, on the other hand, is a true P90. Great pickup, but the output was the main issue. It was not well matched with the Duncan Custom 5 Trembucker, which is almost as high output as a standard JB. I've always thought of P90s as sitting on the fulcrum point between single coil and humbucker. They are snappy like single coils, but have a nice fatness in their tone. It's snap without the quack. I find that they can be choppy with my style of playing, which is full of high speed alternate picking a la Di Meola and McLaughlin.

[@dw7704]

So just in case you see old comments, any thoughts on P-Rails?

[@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245]

Came for P-90 education but got rc cars first. I can sub to that. Owner of Mini T 2 and Mini T 2 late oval conversation

[@aaronmaiden3606]

0:18 Your face 😂

[@0richbike]

nice touch with the long wires. And great idea with the silicon tube for springs....I hate wobbly pup springs so im robbing some vacuum hose off the car ;-)

[@scottschmittmusic]

Had a question.. are there p90s that Dont sound like theyre plastic? Or covered? I want to try one out but allot of videos i watch with various guitars .. the p90 sounds like theres a cover over it.. they lack articulation or clarity.. thanks

[@DylanTalksTone]

Yep. Ours… clarity is a thing. We do it right

[@istvandejesus]

I bought a Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound Tele bridge pickup with the notion that it would sound like a P90. Is far from it. Is it’s own thing.

[@ScottyGMusic]

I had one about 10 years ago. I sold it, because I wanted more of a vintage sound, but now I want another Quarter Pound.

[@istvandejesus]

@@ScottyGMusic I still have mine. Maybe if I find a cheap tele for a Project Il use it. Right now I have Lindy Fralin pickups installed. And they are not coking out any time soon.

[@ScottyGMusic]

@@istvandejesus Right on, I have heard good things about those Lindy Fralins.

[@istvandejesus]

@@ScottyGMusic They are called the Blues Special for telecaster.

[@guitarmore]

I think I heard PRS tell Sweetwater their coil split humbucker sounds so good is because it is essentially a double P90. Thoughts?

[@Mephilis78]

Those humbucker sized P90s aren't actually called P90s are they? They are P94s or something like that, if I remember right.

[@clivegregory4126]

Dylan, I'm going to take a photo and shot you an e-mail regarding a suggestion about P90s

[@michaelbevins2405]

No they are not the same ,The p94 or humbucker size single coil is less out put and a littlr more chimer ,More like a nice sounding tele with an attitude .The p 94 s are great !

[@michaelinglis8516]

Dylan I love your channel brother....but I gotta ask...are you being paid to have an "RC car hobby"??? Every fucking youtuber these days has RC Cars as their "second hobby" lol. It's just getting to be a little suspicious d ; Maybe you guys are being tricked into having an RC car hobby? Lol or it's just a fun simple pastime that you can do wherever with what ever spare time you have. Either way.....I'm still not convinced there isnt an RC car marketing team pulling the strings somewhere lol. Kinda like how every youtuber "plays" those stupid microtransaction phone games who's sole purpose is sticking up kids for their parents debit card numbers lol.

[@DylanTalksTone]

I WISH I was getting paid for that hobby!!! If you know of a way, PLEASE let me know

[@michaelinglis8516]

@@DylanTalksTone Lololol if I find a way you'll be the first to know!

[@benwright6330]

..and all humbuckers are not the same

[@PinkOrangeRed]

constructive criticism: great content but non guitar related intro too long. maybe some time stamping for those that want to skip.

[@DylanTalksTone]

It’s called a Vlog. we are very clear about this. Tech content on Tuesday’s, LIVE Q and A on Thursday’s ..... VLOG on Friday’s.

[@PinkOrangeRed]

@@DylanTalksTone ah i see. wasn’t familiar with the scheduling.

[@DylanTalksTone]

That being said.... that’s why I want to put useful stuff even in the vlogs. I value your time.