Are Spellcasters Overpowered like in D&D? - Worlds Without Number Spellcasting!

[@PackTactics]

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[@soybean9098]

honestly i barely even play DnD anymore (more lack of groups i like) just good background noise and the numbers are neat so ill watch it either way.

[@aka_pcfx]

That's a lot of numbers for a world without them...

[@crackaassedcracka]

I appreciate the cheekyness

[@Arnsteel634]

I honestly thought it was for doing prehistoric settings 😉

[@cyruscrompton8221]

>worlds without numbers >looks inside >numbers

[@tennke205]

Day ruined

[@elrhunadan]

x/z too many numbers

[@PackTactics]

Lol. Daggerheart came out but I want to cover WWN instead.

[@aka_pcfx]

I knew that community post was the setup for a bait and switch 😂

[@dungeonapprentice9804]

Don't follow the pack; lead it.

[@brianfoley548]

I would love to bring this system to my table. More content would be great to see! There's already a heavily saturated 5E video library of everyone giving opinions or interpretations. I'm always excited when I see Kobolds dingy face pop up on my feed. Mixing it up will be fun!

[@AndrewofDoom]

Hell yeah!

[@tasty_wind4294]

Honestly, why would you? It’s another fantasy heartbreaker, the only difference is it has a cult of personality behind it.

[@fool5699]

Commenting to support WWN. Hope you have a wonderful day.

[@PackTactics]

You too!

[@LordSquirrelShow]

More WWN content is never a bad thing! Nice thing is that with the recent release of the WWN SRD now everyone can get access to all the different special effort classes like Thought Nobles and Accursed.

[@PackTactics]

That came out like this week didn't it?

[@LordSquirrelShow]

​@PackTactics yep. Just yesterday I think. Has most of the system excluding Heroic classes, Legate and Naval rules along with all of the Racial and class specific Foci introduced in the Atlas of the Latter Earth supplement. Pretty good way to be able to check out the paid content without having to mooch off a friend. Lol

[@macoppy6571]

0:21 WWN is "... basically, a better D&D." - Kobold, 2024

[@peremptory]

I love the adjustments WWN makes, it solves so many problems that have plagued other d20 systems for a long time. The solutions are light weight and intelligent. Thanks for covering this system.

[@lucasramey6427]

I'd watch a worlds without number rpg breakdown series

[@zelda4ever72]

I humbly request more WWN content please! I want to convince my usual table to play this system, but they don't listen to me too often and scheduling conflicts. This system just sounds so good!

[@PackTactics]

All 3 of these vids should be enough to know the game by just watching. I think next video I'll talk about all the classes in the game.

[@zelda4ever72]

@@PackTactics Awesome! Can't wait!

[@deProfundisAdAstra]

Thank you for covering Worlds Without Number! All of the Without Number systems are great and don’t get enough love ❤

[@PackTactics]

❤🐊

[@asdfjoe123]

I love this and I love how bold and brave you are covering games other than the Hasbro one, with all of its power creep and broken cheese. I love this so much that I think it's high time I sign up for your Patreon.

[@PackTactics]

Thank you very much for donating! If there's anything you need, don't be afraid to reach out to me on discord.

[@proplejeezus6406]

I love WWN A LOT (and SWN too), and am really happy to see it covered. As someone who's played a considerable amount of both and is a huge fan of Kevin's work, I do have to say that his games aren't the best to point to for people who dislike the spellcaster OP thing. The 5e view of martials and spellcasters doesn't quite work for one, as it's the more traditional view of fighters being the best at combat, experts being the best at skills, spellcasters being force multipliers. The whole concept of experts takes some time for dnd 5e players. The primary problem his systems have is that they're balanced technically, but don't feel that way. The other two classes are balanced, but they simply have less options than any spellcaster. Fighters and experts don't really get abilities like spellcasters get, and despite that it's balanced for this, it doesn't feel great if you're an expert in a party with a caster. As a quick example (though SWN, but basically the same problem), we had a pretty decked out party. Our fighter was an absolute chad, could take damage for days, literally could very rarely miss. But his experience was just shoot every time it was his turn. He lacked much else to do. The two experts would just kinda plink and handle most of the skill checks, not really many options to choose from either. But my (partial) telekinetic psychic was as armoured as the fighter, could simply say "no" to some attacks, reflect others back to their owners. It was balanced, my HP and damage was hella low, but it didn't feel that way when in any given situation I could summon walls or platforms, walk over liquids, and absorb tank shells and they could, at best, make a good skill check. That all said, one of my favourite campaigns I've ever DMed was a party of two experts and a fighter.

[@PackTactics]

Our table even when playing 5e try to get surprise every opportunity we can. In WWN, our Expert in the party picked Sniper’s Eye so his Execution Attack is really good. I think he will keep up with everyone else in the party in combat. Here is our party btw: Warrior (me), Warrior/Expert, Expert, High mage/Healer, Accursed/Bard.

[@nicholaswolfe86]

Oh crap you are back to WWN how awesome. Would love to see more of your experiences! Good luck!

[@Aikolon]

I love to see and hear more about worlds without number. Also Stars without number. Hope this video does well😊

[@RedLetter1616]

I love when you cover alternative ttrpgs! Especially Worlds Without Number 😁

[@GreenAverine]

I love when you cover alternative RPG systems!

[@GameHunterMaster]

I've played Worlds Without Number, and it's a very solid and entertaining system.

[@BDTMack]

Great video! I love learning about Worlds Without Number. It seems like such a cool, streamlined system. It's the perfect of the deadliness and need to think critically to overcome obstacles found in OSR games and the tactical crunchy combat mechanics of 5e. I think the next long campaign I GM for will be in WWM.

[@gammalolman580]

Honestly, the "spell slot" system feels closer to like a 5e warlock system, which is quite nice. I do like that way of handling stuff honestly, even if I know some people just disagree with such system. Either way, this coverage was fun ... I should really stop procrastinating watching the previous video on world without numbers lol. I am a lazy gator

[@TeslanPunk]

This looks like a really well balanced system. I'd love to see more rules readings and of course some optimizations from you Kobold!

[@MetaGrave]

Love to see more Worlds Without Number stuff! Liking, commenting, sharing, remaining subscribed!

[@cyagen9782]

Nice to see you covering other games than D&D 5e. I am an old guy and when I look at your video, I am always thinking how back then, we played BECMI D&D and did not seem to have this obession with action economy (you had only 1) and martials being weak. I guess this is the me beeing nostalgic but I would love seeing you optimize BECMI and all the clutter that came with the Gazetters....

[@PackTactics]

Thank you for your kind comment!

[@geoffreysherman609]

Yes! Moar!!!! Would really love to see you and Gator do more WWN content!!!

[@sheakennedy-ordway1156]

Yes please. I like not having a monopoly, cover all the games. 10/10 video.

[@PrototypeGodslayer]

Commenting in support of further videos on other systems! I do not care for 5e, but I like to be informed about it and your videos acknowledge its faults without trying to excuse them which I super respect and is why I'm here. But other systems I can actually feel excitement for? HELL yeah :D

[@PackTactics]

5e is my favorite game and I'll gladly say bad things about it when it's actually bad because I want it to be improved in the future. As for this system, for now the only really bad thing I can say about it is I don't like the way the book is structured.

[@nathanschmaltz672]

Can't wait to see all the content about all the different games out there.

[@jarydf]

Happy to hear more about WWN. Thanks

[@TasareAlda]

Yes please more videos on worlds with out number please!

[@davidrowe1557]

I'm really glad that you are covering this system and planning to do some gameplay.

[@theyodanesss]

I love how reading makes Kobold bigger

[@PackTactics]

It gives me advantage!

[@alexanderaloi5173]

I read this as worlds beyond number at first and the scream I scrumpt for a moment broke a window. Now I just have broken glass and a good video

[@macoppy6571]

Faction Turns are optimal and are crying for Kobold's attention. 🙏🙏🙏

[@duanebradway1627]

Great video. I really want to check out this system now. Thank you.

[@TomTrustworthy]

Just started this video but good to see more coverage of WWN, the *WN systems are great!

[@cfalkner1012]

Super supportive of more Worlds Without Number videos.

[@andritsiry]

Take a little detour I need city without number, they have another take on caster, summoner and the graced who are partial. There is a rule for integration in a wwn game.

[@princephantom1294]

Comments for the algorithm. I’ve always had trouble getting interested in other TTRPGs, but this looks cool

[@jacksharks6433]

Every time there is a new Worlds Without Numbers video, I am tempted to give it a try - then I realize that I am curently running two dnd 5e games and playing in two others as well. One of these days, Kobold will catch me off guard and I start a WWN game, too. Just not sure how to fit it in my schedule ...

[@muddlewait8844]

Haha I love the original AD&D PH font

[@fitundumbgodofthunder5111]

Yes more without number stuff

[@fabiopantera1291]

I would love to see you talk about The Legend of The Five Rings system (L5R 5e), it’s the system I’m currently playing and I think that I could be a great pick to explore something else

[@ConnorSinclairCavin]

I always love seeing other systems like this, usually i note down cool rulings and features for across games. it would be neat to one day see an open source modular RPG “engine” for lack of a better term, where the various rules, items, lore, and what not can be taken from any system, added to any system, and translate any stats needed.

[@waynefletcher4259]

Definitely gonna check out the other videos on this. I’m excited to check out this game.

[@lucamonticelli267]

I love all the pack tactics videos

[@TheSkafei]

I never heard about this system but I'm incredibly eager to learn more WWN !

[@MalloonTarka]

I considered WWN for a campaign I'm running. I really liked it, even if we decided against it, and the spellcasting was very well done.

[@nabilzouikri1116]

here is my passing comment to help with the algorithm, but that aside i really enjoy your Worlds Without Number series. something to mention is that you didn't talk about the vowed and healer which are only partial mage classes but i guess since they don't have any spellcasting only arts i assume that's why you omitted them, that aside, Great Video!!

[@PackTactics]

I plan on talking about Vowed and healer in the next video. It will also include beast master, accursed and all that. Basically everything. All the classes.

[@3csacat]

I've been looking into this system and it looks so fun!

[@damsonrhea]

I have to admit I'm a little bit cautious about WWN spellcasting. I haven't looked at it, but I did see what Sine Nomine did with spellcasting in Godbound, which followed the Exalted Tradition of 'Impressive but Unwieldy and easily countered, to the point where Counter Spell and Create Minion are pretty much the only spells you should ever bother to learn.' I like Godbound, but I would never play a spellcaster in it. Of course, you don't really need to play a spellcaster to get the spellcaster fantasy; everyone has access to miracles.

[@PandaKnight-FightingDwagon]

I will watch every video you put out Kobold! And videos on other RPGs is the easiest way to discover and learn other RPGs

[@robjob34]

I know the views aren't great rn, but I love these videos!

[@earthenkindquests]

Hurrah - happy to see this video!!!

[@johncox3541]

It's great to see information on other systems

[@doggosplosion]

Laughs in dual casting DCC high level cleric.

[@jdennis7221]

Thanks for covering this, despite The Algorithm! I'm seriously considering moving my group over to *WN and this helps a ton!

[@PackTactics]

Thank you for watching!

[@Nos2113]

I would love to see more videos on this and other systems!

[@donwebster9292]

I love all your videos. Want to see more about this game.

[@OREZTEHBACKSTRIKER]

I really like the design WWN has going on.

[@hashemx1ify]

I love this Soooo much , I have started cities without number, it was not amazing but it's nice I feel thought that world with number is better , I wish theres more content and options I really would like to see more people give it a chance

[@SilvrSavior]

Psychics in SWN can be OP if you build them right. Especially if you focus on Metapsyonics.

[@marifrit2490]

It would be cool if you looked at the other without numbers systems too. I've been running cities without numbers.

[@PackTactics]

I would love to do Cities and Stars but for now I'm focused on Worlds. I was invited to a cities game last week but I couldn't make it.

[@tinyelvenmitten1774]

Really hyped for WWN content!!!1 :D I recently found out about this, watched your old videos and really interested in learning more!

[@MoritzRoosen]

I hope the World games pick up in popularity again. SWN was my first ttrpg and I would love to play it or one of the follow up systems like WWN again.

[@PackTactics]

I'm actually jelly. My first systems 13 years ago were all awful lol.

[@MoritzRoosen]

Damn that's a while ago. And yeah we were pretty lucky. A friend of mine still brings it up, as being probably his favourite system or at least the parts of it he remembers. Since it has also been probably about 8 years since our last campaign ended

[@mikecarson7769]

Gator, the Business Lord

[@Skimmer951]

Always looking forward to when you dive snoot first into alternate systems!

[@dylanmartindale9151]

I’m very curious about the whole if you take damage you can’t cast a spell this round thing. How effective is the foci for preventing that? How effective are the other actions you can take if you can’t cast a spell?

[@PackTactics]

If you're a full caster and you can't cast your spell or art then your other actions is probably going to be bad because you're a magic man. That's why foci that makes you go first in initiative for example is very good. You get to throw your nuke spell from the start.

[@Einola_0.0]

pack tactics bringing the information

[@Surge-kk6ew]

So glad to see that it’s good

[@jamesc5273]

Maybe it's my limited 5e brain but the alternate games to 5e seem complicated. Been looking at dragonheart also. Would love to see pro/con on different systems you both like and dont like.

[@Dyundu]

WWN is a great system 👍

[@sirloin869]

So,Swiss cheese - on pizza?...

[@naum2099]

You mentionned in a post that yoy had your first session a few days ago. How did it go ?

[@PackTactics]

Great! Tons of roleplay and I killed wolves with my Breath weapon! It was very fun! I'm playing tomorrow too!

[@naum2099]

@@PackTactics awesome ! The first character i ever played was a dragonborn barbarian, and for the first 3 sessions i tried my hardest to use my breath weapon, but gave up when i didn't even deal enough damage to burn down an old suspended bridge made of dry wood and ropes. This would've made the goblin fall to their death in a spike hole lol. Anyways, i'm glad it's better in WWN, probably give it a read using your vids as basis ! Hope your next session goes as good as the last one ^^

[@jameskirton2002]

I like the look of WWN. It looks like the creators learned the lesson of DnD that having more specific rules will only lead to more misinterpretation.

[@PackTactics]

You'll be blown away by the DM advice in this book, that's what gets the most praise.

[@zachorrzachary]

WWN is great! Keep it going!

[@saraolt]

Kevin, our guy!

[@droolhd]

Nice video! But I'm glad I use a different dice vendor because my 100€ wouldn't have been enough to get everything I wanted from your sponsor - even with that code...

[@KaelinGoff]

Glad you're making these. Would love more

[@tsuchinokofamiliar8092]

Waited a year for peak system and it was worth it

[@danielbruno993]

This system looks awesome

[@Adept_Austin]

Love that you're spreading the love to new systems

[@geoffreyperrin4347]

Seems like an interesting game

[@andrewlesniak8018]

I for one am interested in more WWN content.

[@Feanarang]

Commenting to say I love WWN and am making the switch myself - beginning a new campaign in the next month!

[@PackTactics]

Have fun! Keep me updated on how it goes!

[@beowulfshaeffer8444]

Huzzah! Sine Nomine! 👏

[@koltonkulis4763]

I'm running a WWN right now in a play by post game. It's been a lot of fun. It has enough abilities to keep my 5e players happy and enough lethality to keep them on their toes and thinking outside the box to minimize the risk of combat.

[@elred111]

Good stuff you are getting back to WWN. It's been at the top of my list to play and/or run for some time now, but for the current campaign the players asked to use 5e :( Hopefully next time.

[@calebgoeglein3514]

I hope you can cover this more!

[@mustyearlobe3186]

Thanks for the wwn content!

[@tasty_wind4294]

Worlds and Cities without Number are quickly becoming my “Desert Island” games. I love that you can make a character who isn’t combat focused, and is still completely viable, both because of mechanics and the fact that the game puts an emphasis on sandbox-style play.

[@ognyannedev5979]

now i'm interested in dice which aren't compatible with dnd, pathfinder, and wwn

[@PackTactics]

Oh no!

[@dralel1381]

I loved the worlds without number book. Theres so much in all the system books to take for games. I hope you cover more of this and have a playlist for this system. Im swapping over to it from 5e. Its my go to.

[@spike315]

I AM HERE FOR THIS

[@AndrewofDoom]

I really love it when you cover non D&D stuff. I've been getting rather burnt out on D&D 5e, and I haven't very fortunate to convince my DM that she's currently running her current game in WWN instead of 5e like she originally planned. It's a breath of fresh air for the usual boring power fantasy that is 5e.

[@joshuahorrigan1553]

Would love more WWN videos!

[@dagmaratarapata8966]

It sounds fun!

[@vitalem4]

If this gets a series you should talk about the mixing and matching you can do with cities without number and stars without number.

[@PackTactics]

Whirlwind is OP in Worlds so we're using Stars version instead.

[@moleborton4284]

I probably wont play but i still enjoyed this 👍🏼

[@bootstrappingcivilization5862]

shoulda put the big head in front of the small body, would have been really funny.

[@reddhibberd1206]

would love to see more!