Paige Pierce Calls Out Brodie, Gannon Buhr Sweeps, Holyn Handley & Ezra Robinson Join Show | EP 74

[@FoundationPodcasts]

7:35 Start 19:02 MPO 35:10 Ezra Robinson 1:42:34 FPO 1:06:02 Holyn Handley 2:04:02 Paige Pierce Calls Out Tour Life 2:28:50 2024 Presidents Cup Announced 2:34:26 Listener Questions

[@scottdavis5076]

What a great interview Ezra,,no sugar coating,straight,honest answers

[@seangutermuth7515]

The elephant in the room is people don't like Brodie because he's not afraid to say what is on his mind. But he owns his opinions, I may not agree with ALL of them, but that is normal and ok. We NEED strong voices in this sport, they won't always be "right", but sometimes they will and affect a good change in this great sport. Keep kickin Brodie, awesome pod guys.

[@Bestpolevaulter]

Exactly Brodie is literally the most entertaining personality out there. People need to stop just saying all the PC responses.

[@peds8345]

Brodie lives on social media and has something to say about everything. It would come off better if he actually did semi good on tour.

[@atpete07]

I think it’s more that Brodie never thinks he’s wrong

[@bsmithhammer]

I'll take Brodie's honesty over other people's passive/aggressiveness and insecurities any day.

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

Everyone here likes Brodie. It’s just hypocritical to call people soft and then get sensitive about mild criticism of his podcast and other people not sticking up for him.

[@landonwebb886]

Tour life is the best disc golf pod on the market, don’t care the Paige wasn’t on, great podcasting guys

[@landonwebb886]

I do wish Paul was more involved in the planning of the podcast though, we did not need to see the flexing guy on twitter piece, I would like to see Paul more involved in the interviewing as well

[@markdiego4442]

TL is pretty good but Grip Locked is better. 😮

[@colejohnston8031]

Thanks for another great show Brodie, Uli, and Silas! Keep being your authentic selves and bringing us honest conversations around the game we love! I know you guys are grinding to give us this content. Appreciate y'all!

[@untrustworthyshelfing9953]

Ezra and Isaac perfectly represent the difference between the letter Z and the letter S.

[@bsmithhammer]

But do they 'identify' that way? Mis-lettering is hate speech, ya know. 😂

[@untrustworthyshelfing9953]

@@bsmithhammer One track mind.

[@hudsonhaupt9548]

Why does this make so much sense? Lol

[@jantmoen]

My favorite discgolf podcast. Subscribed!

[@mattingly8322]

This is easily the best pod in the disc golf world. Brodie is so good for the sport and we are lucky that Uli and him bring what theu bring to the space.

[@KenMoody1]

I stupidly love this show. Best disc golf pod / video every week. Thank you Paul & Brodie.

[@KenNydam-y9p]

Another great show. Thanks guys. Best podcasts to fill in the week with disc.

[@ryancronauer9004]

I've been waiting for someone to correct Brodie on Attributes 😂

[@dennisblack6042]

Have to remember most athletes are not college graduates or grammar experts😂

[@rockinroyle]

This is the best, least boring dg podcast for someone who is not die hard into pdga but likes disc golf. Ie myself and most disc golfers

[@alankarst86]

I personally love the Legend of Zelda music that plays at the beginning of the video before the pod officially begins

[@xxdr3binxx599]

Whats up Brother! Special teams, special plays, special players. Guys still got a top 10 forehand on the tour. If it wasn't for Brodie I wouldn't have become a HUGE fan of Uli or EZE Ezra Aderhold. Love this pod!

[@jameswhite170]

Brodie was soooooo needed in this sport. The Pollyanna culture started by Terry, Ian and others is so unappealing to many of us. Disc golf's growth needed people who aren't afraid to be controversial. Imagine what Stephen A Smith would have said about any player including Paige over the last few years? Brodie should actually push this stuff even further. There is not another podcast that I can listen to for hours over this one. Pioneers!

[@mahazroko6753]

I think Simon is the biggest natural talent and one of the greatest players this sport has ever seen. The man is already a legend and his career is still going, and he's only getting better with age. And the joy with which he plays is infectious. Never count him out.

[@davereloader8837]

Definitely the funnest player to watch on tour and on socials. He kind of spearheaded chill DG social media content. Plus his move to MVP was epic and I love the resulting discs. One of those rare athletes who is almost universally loved.

[@rhylde5978]

Awesome show, was watching a little behind had to pause it so I'll get a comments in here. Uli congrats on the captain spot thats sick! I think all of your viewers are very appreciative that you guys can speak your minds uncensored, really hope that never changes. You guys do really help bring all of us a little closer to understanding and appreciating who the pros really are. Thats way to much comment already, big fan appreciate the hell out of you guys!

[@girds8710]

I love Brodie’s honesty. He should never change. Love the podcast.

[@Jason.odrums]

I think also seeing the clips from the podcast on Instagram can come off in a way that makes Paige think it's all about speculation and Brodie doesn't actually know what he's talking about. But if she watched a full episode she might have a different opinion of the podcast. Brodie's one of the most passionate people when it comes to disc golf as a whole and growing the sport.

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

Yeah if they want to claim no drama and speculation then they need to look at how their clips are presented. That clip from Paige’s interview still gets quoted by disc golf nerds almost literally every time she is mentioned.

[@bsmithhammer]

Great point about forming an impression based primarily on clips.

[@bsmithhammer]

@@leastselfawarepotassium I mean, it was an impressively dumb, egotistical comment...

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

@@bsmithhammerthey put out a clip of her saying she would be top 40 with no context at all. In context the statement wasn’t nearly as ridiculous.

[@bsmithhammer]

@@leastselfawarepotassium I was listening to the interview live when it happened. I didn't draw conclusions from a clip. It was ridiculous either way. If not delusional.

[@dougs8196]

Brodie - "If it was a different situation, the response would be different" Exactly. That is a problem with internet culture. People try to put every incident into a box when each one is different and shouldn't all be treated the same.

[@STOW91]

Brodie is great for disc golf and I appreciate his honesty always

[@mikethomas5451]

Big thumps up on the pod.

[@BrodieSmith]

Appreciate ya

[@markapuan]

Im so stoked for HH. Met her and her husband a few years ago at LVC when i kept score for her card. From that day i knew she was going to be a contender for a long time. Her state of mind from what I saw at LVC she is a true competitor!

[@isaiahbalter4883]

The podcast gets ears and eyes on it. I think it covers the tour really well from various perspectives as you have guests on the show from various backgrounds. I think other players would be silly not to come on and give your audience a chance to become a fan, it helps their sponsorships which in turn helps grow the sport in a really meaningful way. Keep them coming because it is terrific content.

[@MrDong101]

I've never seen an interview with Paige that she seemed wiilling or happy to be there, since she stopped winning every event..

[@TruthAndJustice5]

Agreed. Always a bad attitude.

[@lynch42o]

@@TruthAndJustice5 liberal entitlement.

[@bsmithhammer]

She's still pissed because only five people watched her documentary, and she and her wife were two of them.

[@Boucher702]

@@bsmithhammer and maybe nat

[@mrtony1985]

Thoughts & good energy for whatever you and Kelsey are hoping for. ❤

[@carllinlee]

PP can have her opinions and like who she likes but She complained about podcast drama while creating drama on a podcast 🤔

[@carllinlee]

Seems disrespectful for her to ghost them and then start drama like what happened to ppl talking to each other and being okay having different opinions and views…she could’ve just said hey no thanks at least. Brodie is controversial and I have different opinions than him but you gotta have mad respect for the dude. He definitely cares about the sport and has brought a TON of attention and money to it.

[@AdamLeon]

If we accept the commonly misused form of the word drama. She ghosted them, then threw shade in the most public way possible. To the point even Uli had to call it "soft." I think PP is deep down a good person but upset at Brodie for something. She needs to come on and set things right in the future. For her own sake. At minimum, she needs to do it in private.

[@bsmithhammer]

Paige isn't used to real sports media, she's accustomed to the fluffy, ego-stroking that DG has been in the past. Then again, I couldn't care less about her opinion on...well, anything.

[@pigs6486]

@@AdamLeonShe’s a nasty, egotistical maniac.

[@jamesevans7537]

I'm definitely not a Paige fan at all. What she did with Kristin's daughter just really turned me off. I know she wasn't the only one involved with that, but she didn't win any fans with that idiocy

[@craigrawlings5783]

Quite a bit of hypocrisy by PP which is not a good look for her. Kristin is a much better ambassador for women’s sports in my book.

[@lynch42o]

100%

[@Luffy-344]

It's not even comparable.

[@JezzyandtheBear]

lol

[@JarrettWBass]

I used to listen to Smashboxx every week, but with my work schedule I can only watch a couple times a month. Yall must have changed your day I thought yall were Wednesday and Smashboxx Tuesday.

[@ScottSmith-vc5vf]

I am happy Page is competing well again and has her first win in a long time. But man, she lives in a strange world in her head. The less she says in public the bearer for her in my opinion. She leaves this fan at times shaking his head.

[@ramirosoto283]

Best DG podcast out there!

[@TitoDaG]

I just want to say its dope that Brodie is this bought in to Disc Golf. Did his ultimate thing, short golf stint and now has been in the disc sphere for a while and seems dedicated and Im here for it! I know us here appreciate his involvement and hope it continues. Want to see him back on the course too and practice rounds with Ezra. Or maybe just do the practice rounds/Ezras caddie?

[@Swadicaup]

This is the best DG podcast

[@mbts500]

I'd love to see a Brodie vs. Paige head to head disc golf match to settle this

[@ShakespeareanBroncobuster]

From the MPO tees….

[@ztsb_koneko]

1:43:31 I mean if you touch the basket you could say it's a support point beyond the lie that breaks both falling putt and stance rules. But it's pointless nitpicking and maybe the rules could make touching the basket an exception.

[@bellies1000]

Love the reaction from brodie to the Paige situation. The disgolfworld (or at least a large portion of the pro's )still does not realise enough what professionel sports involves!

[@PeteEH]

In finnish pronounciation the emphasis is always on the first syllable. So HEInola, not heiNOla.

[@atpete07]

The entire Paige segment Uli has a look on his face of ‘Dude I don’t wanna talk about this, just rant away Brodie and let’s get to the next segment’

[@bsmithhammer]

But secretly, he knows PP is insufferable. He just doesn't want to admit it publicly.

[@emilianocastaneda1812]

Brodie can be a bit abrasive at times, but the amount of discussion and entertainment he brings to disc golf is amazing. Im usually 50/50 on agreeing/disagreeing with his takes, but i love the fact every single week he's pushing the discussion trying to elevate disc golf for everyone and especially talking sbout things other media outlets are afraid or timid about covering. Keep up the awesome work!

[@JacobPorterLadder]

Paige literally wants to just play with her friends and have no one talk about per sport but also wants to see it grow??? I don't really think Terry did anything wrong. He didn't ask the question, she randomly brought it up, he was just talking about how the sport has changed with more voices and she created drama unprovoked while complaining about your "drama"

[@bsmithhammer]

The only reason this show is considered "controversial" is because so many DG pros are so sensitive, and used to fluffy, ego-stroking. I have to wonder how many of them actually watch other sports commentators at all. Paige loves the attention, as long as she's at the center of it. But God forbid you say anything critical about her.

[@rockinroyle]

Its not a team sport. Take that for what its worth but it attracts a lot of people who are about themselves. Its a completely different vibe from team sports. Its why I'll always prefer ultimate over DG. Ppl overall have always been friendlier to me in ultimate. DG I have a 50/50 chance the person on a card wants to be left alone. Its weird

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

What is the difference between Paige expressing her opinion and Brodie expressing his? Your last 2 sentence’s could directly apply to Brodie here.

[@teukka623]

@@leastselfawarepotassiumshe didn’t really express her opinion in a professional and mature way

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

@@teukka623that’s being a bit pedantic in my opinion.

[@lynch42o]

Weak minded libs.

[@mbts500]

I think Brodie is reading into Terry and Johnny V's response too much. There's not enough there for you to say it tells you how they feel about you.

[@subspaceanomaly]

Yes that really showed how brodie's life is in a weird bubble of social media and with childlike simplicity and emotion. If he thought about this topic for longer he would realise he's not acting sensibly.

[@hotmustardseed]

Suggestion for Edwin’s stats: average strokes behind the winner

[@tyler_glasgow]

TELL EM BRODIE!

[@susanheadrickdowns]

I only butter the ones without frosting..... S'mores toasted hands down!

[@ShakespeareanBroncobuster]

So… I heard that you COULDNT touch basket on a tap in putt. I was told that you had to release the disc, even when you are an inch away, without touching basket. I guess that’s wrong? I’d like to see the rule text

[@dougfriend6810]

Uli really didn’t say much about the PP situation or even respond to what Brodie said about Paul. I would like to hear more from Uli cause he seems like he has balanced opinions

[@ScottSmith-vc5vf]

I am happy Page is competing well again and has her first win in a long time. But man, she lives in a strange world in her head. The less she says in public the bearer for her in my opinion. She leaves this fan at times shaking his head. She has a lot of deamons it seams.

[@lynch42o]

She’s a lefty, should be all you need to know…

[@subspaceanomaly]

​@@lynch42odisc golf is a hippie game. Since more hillbillies etc have got involved you get more of the mags crap, partly because land in urban areas is too expensive to be able to host disc golf. It's a game for everyone, but bringing politics into it is idiotic. What you think of as liberal entitlement is just being thoughtful when looked at from another perspective. America is sinking from all the idiots further polarising society.

[@tropicallybrewing]

Brodie correctly breaks down PPs game, got right to the core of the issue...and she makes more delusional comments. Disc golfers need to come to terms with how people who don't worship you discuss sports.

[@HARwinsOUTagain]

Agree. If this is what she considers sports gossip, then she needs to stay away from other sports

[@JustinWayneDawg]

Lesbians are notoriously defensive and insecure. Respectfully.

[@tropicallybrewing]

Uli made a great point about how they have guests on and you get to learn about who they are. PP let us all know who she is when she went on Smashbox to pick a fight with Brodie. Shout out to Brodie for noticing something about TM too. Hopefully now that he sees, he can't unsee.

[@Viral9]

@@tropicallybrewing To be fair she didn't pick a fight. Terry brought up something that he noticed. I don't think she was trying to start anything. If anything, she had been trying to be kind (given the congrats message) even though she disagrees with or dislikes Brodie.

[@mattbroughton750]

Brodie, we've been over the Attribute deal.

[@BenNarNar44]

I like Paige but I love this podcast. It’s absolutely one of my favorites. And who cares, the sport needs some drama or gossip. This podcast is the most real atleast

[@sciguy3412]

Isn’t having a hand on the basket a supporting point? If I was in a ripping headwind, and couldn’t quite reach to drop it in, but I could reach out, lean on the basket, and drop my disc in, that should be illegal.

[@robschoenung9543]

Had to have been the discussion on Debate Night about who the GOAT FPO player is.

[@Aether_Paradox]

The Presidents Cup would actually fit perfectly in the ESPN2 or CBS Sports slots we have had in the past. Shorter, more easily processed content highlighting the best in our sport as well as the most popular.

[@P1sk96]

Good job guys.

[@JarrettWBass]

The best shirt I've ever seen is Simon Lizottes shirt. No back ups on my card while on Feature card.

[@danimal519]

never had a frozen poptart but considering how good that makes girlscout cookies, i bet it's money

[@mattbroughton750]

Luke Humphries is a boss!

[@dennisblack6042]

Very impressed as well

[@tml7189]

I'm a picky podcast listener and the thing I like about Brodie here specifically is that you discuss a great variety of disc golf topics exceptionally evenly AND you do also treat your guests with respect. I'm sure if Page actually listened to you she'd realize you may even be the best ambassador of our sport that we currently have. I think Page may just be a bit intimidated by your general style of sometimes throwing jabs on Twitter etc.

[@Tbudde34]

And you got to start cutting out the 8 minutes of dead air at the start of each episode

[@jvladcliff4083]

Definitely a solid win for Holyn

[@clewless802]

Why is there 7 minutes of dead air before the actual pod?

[@zacharywoodford8530]

I've been saying this for years. Seems like half the podcasts who post on KZbin do it to varying degrees and I just don't get it. Is it that difficult to edit that down to 10 seconds or something?

[@johnboltz3591]

Because it took that long to get everything ready to go for the podcast when they did it live and they just never cropped it out

[@clewless802]

@johnboltz3591 I'm questioning why they didn't crop it out before publishing. It just seems like an easy fix.

[@bsmithhammer]

@@clewless802 Yeah, because advancing the video is really hard...

[@clewless802]

@@bsmithhammer helpful. Thanks!

[@AdamLeon]

I didn't think it was possible for me to have any more respect for Uli but I gained some tonight. Proud to claim him as an AZ guy. Brodie, we're a lot alike and people are just going to have ruffled feathers because you believe in asking and saying things others are scared to because you know that's how we get better... at anything... Just keep being you (as if you have any choice).

[@scottahrens382]

Mirror.... Love you Uli!

[@birdinflight3861]

As sometime who threw things my entire childhood (baseball, football, etc) forehands make zero sense to me. Overhands come super naturally but I can’t release a forehand to save my life

[@ItsGonnaHurtAlot]

Think about throwing it the same way as a fastball then just bend your body forward as much as you can while still being able to throw a fastball. Then pick an overstable disc and throw a fastball with it and see what happens

[@bsmithhammer]

I'm throwing more forehands these days than backhands - off the tee and approach. I find I'm a lot more accurate and actually get better distance once I figured out forehand flex shots.

[@petetedford5052]

Funny enough this podcast is what made me start watching FPO. To me watching FPO is like watching advanced men. But it’s getting better. Also, not comparing them to myself just comparing entertainment value. Most of those women would whoop my ass during a round. So that’s not my stance. For me I want to watch people that are WAY better than me and can do stuff I. Ant see at my local league.

[@prattacaster]

I disagree with Uli: Luke's big mistake was his drive on 17. He watched Gannon's tee shot shank fade in the crap on the left and then proceeds to do the same thing. Imagine if he pipes it down the middle and now Gannon has to play hero and Luke can react and play safe if he needs to. That would have been electric ⚡

[@daarcheDG]

you can’t touch the basket when you put the disc in

[@daarcheDG]

fairly certain disc golf law covered it in a jump putt video. or hunter and trevor covered it on a gridlocked episode a few months back. it is also in PDGA rules

[@petetedford5052]

Funny enough this podcast is what made me start watching FPO. To me watching FPO is like watching advanced men. But it’s getting better. Also, not comparing them to myself just comparing entertainment value. Most of those women would whoop my ass during a round. So that’s not my stance. For me I want to watch on my free time people that can do things I can’t see at my local league. I’m nothing special with my own game. Top tier MA2 lol.

[@peterrogers3814]

Lost a lot of respect for Paige on her take on your podcast. Keep growing the sport we love and drawing much needed attention to interesting topics in the sport.

[@robschoenung9543]

I don't think Terry's reaction or lack thereof, was a reflection of his feelings for Brodie.

[@ScratchDiscgolf]

Brodie is way better than Terry and Terry is jealous.

[@dylanl8292]

Okay but why tf is there an over 7 minute intro of elevator music. It keeps getting longer..

[@kingdavey90]

Definitely subscribed :) Weird stance by Paige Pierce not liking you guys.

[@Sniffiez]

We need a Team Brodie Smith t-shirt.

[@chadwolak882]

hyzer flips are irrelevant in the calm ? Did Uli say that ?

[@isaacfranks2272]

I think he meant that in the calm, the advantages of flat/flex shots over hyzerflips disappear

[@Bowl845]

Brodie Smith!! What is “Case Hits”? And now you’re up 1 this week. Last week you were down 2.

[@ryanjohnson9620]

lets add some timestamps

[@JustinWayneDawg]

This. Where do they discuss PP?

[@ScottSmith-vc5vf]

Both Ezra’s are gunna win one soon!!!? And Gossage

[@Jason-Moon]

Goose def been getting shreddy this season

[@studro7202]

Bring sofia Donnecke on the POD!!!

[@nyqpi33]

Wow new into music! Love it!

[@shamanschlong]

I thought touching basket was also illegal

[@Luffy-344]

2023 BSF champion Holyn Handley huh? Dang, here I was thinking it was 2024 for the last 5+ months.

[@tylerbodiker5480]

If Simon wins worlds, I'll buy him a guitar.

[@bhirdietime]

2:48:13 we've given them too much power 😅

[@jonseliski9687]

zootown had 21 fpo players last year

[@joshpifer768]

I think he was thinking of the Discmania Open in PEI

[@baronwest2351]

Just played New London this last weekend, i shot +7 in both the rounds i played. I had 5 double bogeys in those two rounds, and only 5 birdies in those two rounds. This course genuinely is the most fair course i have ever played while it also punishes ANY and ALL poor shots. I shot +7 but I can think about the 5 or 6 strokes that i lost by just being off on a few shots. I was so close to being able to shoot E or under par. But just a few mistakes cost so much. The conversation about the lowest and highest end scores made me pumped to see the top pros play this course. I think it could be the course that Uli wants to see. Going to be so exciting to watch

[@Bestpolevaulter]

If she thinks that this podcast is controversial or drama inducing, that’s good. That’s literally what makes a sports show good. Does she not watch any ESPN shows?

[@kroggee88]

She once said she couldn't believe people were booing the visiting team at a football game.

[@Bestpolevaulter]

@@kroggee88 well that tells you how out of touch from reality and the sports culture she really is.

[@joeyb.8613]

I love Paige, but she seems to like to throw things out there in the media that will create some waves but gets overly defensive if she is criticized. (She thinks she would be top 40 in MPO? She wants Kristen to bring her A game?) All that stuff... Her negative comments about Tour Life seemed completely unnecessary and almost like she had a plan to slam Brodie given the chance. Tour Life and the other Foundation Podcasts talk about all the good and bad going on in the sport! (Most of the other shows just sit around and give each other compliments) And to further support one of Brodie's points, just wait until all these player personal lives start getting tossed around more in the media. I digress, I still love Paige........ But 100% support Brodie, Uli, and Foundation!

[@stonerock1980]

Brody is very good for disc golf.

[@Bestpolevaulter]

Big facts

[@pdderek]

Brodie is sponsored but hes not gonna starve without them. Thats why he can be a bit more stark, frank, and honest with his opinions. Clearly the dgpt hates him for his criticisms and that illustrates why people dependent on the tour cant say what Brodie will 🤷‍♂️

[@BallisticBerry]

Most of these pro disc golfers wouldnt last a second in a larger sport with more media. This comes with growing the sport

[@STOW91]

Brodie fucking rocks 🎉

[@U.S.AeroForceDiscGolf]

Go Jimmy Martinez....whos heard of Jimmy???? Me.... Check him out few back of EMac at Emac home 🤔

[@Aether_Paradox]

We should all vote for Austin Hannum for the fan Vote Player. Then we can watch him be the reason America loses.

[@deezlesdish3655]

Go watch Paige’s podcast with Kat Merch as guest. Her interview with Terry in its entirety turned me off to her. Real classy and great Discraft teammate she is too, wow.

[@murdoc4794]

Brodie irritates the HELL out of me at times. He is incapable of speaking at a normal volume. He speaks over people. He is brash and and yes, I think he does stoke drama. BUT, that's what makes it interesting. I think he is completely correct that he never (as far as I know) makes it personal. That is an excellent delineation. Keep it about the sport. What a person puts on TV should be fair game. I continue to watch this pod because it is (in my opinion) the most interesting pod about the sport. They keep it real. And I REALLY enjoy hearing active pros talking to active pros. It is a really unique perspective you don't get from other pods. I find any pod or tv show that just has a guest on and fluffs them up is mind-numbingly boring.

[@dennis3224]

Pierce thing is a shame too brodie and Paige and a great collab on brodies channel before he only did practice rounds and doubles battles

[@marvelfandom2000]

Not happy with how Brodie handled the whole thing with PP. She didn’t say she hated you or even that you’re terrible as you mentioned. As Uli said, she gave her opinion about your PODCAST and anyone is entitled to that. From the tweets to the segment on this video, she’s clearly living rent free in your head my dude. That said, I don’t agree with her take, drama is not the word I would use, but for lack of better terms, I agree with Brodie that it keeps the sport interesting. I think most would agree, and you clearly have a successful podcast, so nothing to prove at all. If she doesn’t like the pod then that’s her loss right? Don’t let it get to you so much.

[@markdiego4442]

Sounds like Page is quickly becoming the Megan Rapino of disc golf. She will ruin FPO if she isn’t put in check.

[@Discmaninac8494]

Brodie wins. Paige sucks.