Pailhead I Will Refuse

Pailhead were a short lived side project which included Al Jourgensen of influential industrial metal band Ministry and Ian McKaye in their lineup.
This track is from their 1990 EP Trait.

[@frannelrock7923]

Indelible! Still remember the lyrics after 30 years. Reminds of when I used to be cool.

[@MrAlecRamsey]

Anyone who knows the lyrics is agelessly cool.

[@frannelrock7923]

@@MrAlecRamsey Score, dude!!!

[@KoolMada]

Yeah, super hard to remember. lol that’s like saying you still remember join in the chant.

[@scottnichols8389]

@@KoolMada Your point is not well taken!

[@KoolMada]

@@scottnichols8389 Because that's not what it means, I will refuse

[@slowneutron6163]

The irony of straight-edge Ian jamming with Heroin Al is not lost on me.

[@colddaze6680]

lol this is the first I have ever heard of this.

[@calebkeegan3023]

Been 30 yrs too

[@zippymufo9765]

Ian claims he didn't know that the Ministry camp were all addicts when he agreed to do the project.

[@mick2spic]

@@zippymufo9765 Thank god he didn’t know, he might’ve backed out and we wouldn’t have this jam. I don’t think Ministry was as deep into shit then as when they were in later years

[@peatsheelabognagig9216]

They pretty much had a meeting of the minds.....Ian is quoted, "We are pretty much arriving/coming to the same place...it's just I have my own car and you (Al) take a taxi." Good fookin' sports!

[@Kamotep]

Born as a blank page We must pick and choose Our destinations and The paths we'll use What shall we say is sacred What will be abused It's no wonder The world is confused Murder and weather Is our only news I will refuse! Your offer is tempting But it's not what it seems You take advantage Of everyone else's dreams You create the perfect picture By dressing up the scene Trust our hopes and lives To your death machines Your point is not well taken Because that's not what it means I will refuse

[@MsMiguel70]

Thanks for the insight.

[@WhatNotandWhatHaveYou]

Thanks for the lyrics!

[@paulrevere2928]

Best punk anthem ever written!

[@UncleGhoulieTv313]

'Fuck you Al, I don't want your drugs."

[@littleladygidget]

misled !!!!!! every morning pumped before i would take off to school skating

[@ekeko_]

Same, those were the good ol days.

[@nickbaspaly6239]

100%

[@ekul831]

Opening song for Misled Youth. One of the greatest classic skate videos

[@alpacajones3932]

Yessssss i was like i know this song reminded me of Thomas

[@superunknown2812]

Other then welcome to hell Misled youth is my favourite skateboard vid of all time.

[@ethanhodges7278]

Yes I agree 💯🩸💨

[@camllo14]

The best

[@MC_1993]

Amen

[@deepwebwhirlpool]

my dad played this for me a few months ago and ive been in love ever since

[@inkydigitz]

This is one of those perfect songs. It'll always be timeless.

[@mauricio1981]

'You take advantage of everybody else's dreams' Social networks.

[@natgirrl]

I purchased the 12" from Wax Trax in Chicago. We played it for at least an hour straight on a nightly basis as loud as our cheap sound system would go. Good times.

[@starfox1]

dam gurl i remember that store . i grew up on sheffield and belmont . used to sit on the curb at dunkin donuts on clark and belmont and listen to this cassette on the walkman

[@dcq0809]

These lyrics describe the world today,prophetic song

[@BigRizza1]

more relevant than ever

[@SLYKSEAL]

U mean today 😂😂😂

[@renanepica]

Mat Hoffman's PRO BMX, ótimo jogo com uma ótima trilha sonora *-*

[@habitualresistor9548]

Oh man! I miss Matt Hoffman. One the baddest, bad boy BMXers ever.

[@ianrowand9505]

I remember this listening to this while skating the abandoned swimming pools in Miami. O, good times indeed! Good times.

[@You_Dont_Like_My_Music]

Such an underrated album.

[@billyfurnari5499]

89.5 WFIT College radio station in Melbourne, FL in the mid 80s and 90s used to blow my mind with alternative rock, hardcore punk, black metal and Industrial. this song mix is all the above!

[@starwinksbackfromtheskypit6790]

91.1 WRVU Nashville, TN for me. This song was my soul as a teenager.

[@caldixon7645]

Lived on Merritt Island, WFIT signal was sketchy there, so I used to drive south until it came in clear and then would listen in my car for hours.

[@jezamoonspell221]

Yarrrr this takes me back in the 80's-90's goth/industrial/darkwave, etc... club times here in California, Los Angeles, Hollywood, areas wow 😝🦇😸

[@jknol421]

Always was a fan of Ministry , Biafra and the whole scene at the time....and the bore it was I was from Nashville...still kept up. Good to relive the day's past .

[@22222JD]

This song is a total throwback to the days we used to go in the mosh pits in the clubs and at shows...throws me back to the greatest times of our lives...carefree and not a trouble other than hangovers the next day of course LOLOL 😂 ahhhhhh the Good Ol’ Days. Enjoy now kids because real life is REAL and it’s COMING!!!

[@kerosine567]

bought this when it came out, love dancing in Industrial Clubs

[@jerman2003]

Another badass Barker bassline. Man the guy has a nak for producing a hypnotizing rthym.

[@lastzombiehunter]

27 people don't know what good music sounds like.

[@TravisisDead13]

53 now!

[@sipho9539]

Dis da best song on Mat Hoffman's BMX and I use it when I'm skating too‼😤

[@PaulCooperMSL]

EVERY SATURDAY AT 1:00 AM AT CLUB 911 IN WALKER MI... This song played after NIN Something i can never have.. We all lined up and The circle started... I MISS MY PIT DAYS... ONE of the best Mosh songs EVER....

[@natgirrl672]

This has been my favorite song for 30 years.

[@zacumen]

Immense love to Bill Rieflin, who absolutely owns this track.

[@MitchMatrixx]

Bill Reflin? Yeah I know Bill Reflin... He play drums Try to play drums You know, Bill the cat That's what you might know him as, Bill the cat He wears like, you know, nice leather jackets I'mma steal one of them muckafuckin' jackets from his ass I'm gonna steal his drums too!

[@brewcakes]

angst of mind in a pit of peers circling to relieve aggression and walking away with a black eye or bloody laceration and feeling the better person for it. i needed this song at the time and thank you to all who understand.

[@davidwhite3598]

“Murder and weather is our only news.” More true today than when this song was written.

[@TheIceManDan23]

Yep

[@TheIceManDan23]

@jordan mackenzie what?😂

[@davidcurtis3666]

The year this song was written Washington, DC had 436 murders, in a city of less than 500k residents, which was the city's third record-breaking homicide year in a row, and which earned the city the title of "murder capitol" of the country, so no, not quite.

[@davidwhite3598]

@@davidcurtis3666 I just checked. Today is May 28, 2021. 232 mass shootings so far this year and I live in Chicago where 40+ people get shot every weekend

[@davidcurtis3666]

@@davidwhite3598 - I see your point, and that sucks, Chicago has it rough for sure. Not trying to diminish your POV. Will note though that with only 206 fatalities, i.e., murders, from those mass shootings nationwide so far this year that it's not the most apt comparison to either DC when the song was written, or Chicago now, with over 700 murders last year, and I'll add, for context, with a population of Abt 9 million in the Chicago area today those 706 murders seem less to me when compared to an area with only about half that population having over 400 murders in a year. I get that it is more, because the number is in fact higher, but to me the higher percentage seems more impactful. Different points of view. Either way, murders are on the rise again, and the song is still relevant.

[@cjgoth3487]

I still spit out "Your point is not well taken" any time I need to air it. It can stop a convo dead.

[@jackmeat]

The good old days hanging at Wax Trax.....

[@dlovestar]

Classic. Always loved the build up. When it hits, MAYHEM mosh!!!!

[@RossMorton]

FUCKING READY

[@scottnichols8389]

Back in the day Beyond Ordinary in Albuquerque would play this. Lisa (I think?) was the DJ on Saturday nights -- she would play some Ministry usually to start the mosh pit off but when this song hit it went next level. Love the build up. Good times.

[@thebarbaryghostsf]

Such an amazing combination of musicians. This shit is so brutal.

[@Smeonesmall]

I am the youth age 16 and i like this song, so they're are a select few of us who listen to this...ya knw Love and Rockets Joy Division Ministry all that :P

[@antisuyu6075]

Youre 26 now dude

[@traumkapitan]

funny of the biggest dopeheads in rock history and mr straight edge do a record together :D :D

[@guerrillapress77]

I was always amazed by that myself.

[@penzotoko6619]

I just read Al's book and he addresses how that went down. Basically he said he had a sinus infection and kept running to the bathroom and after a day of that Ian just said, "Dude I know what you're doing, just don't lie to me about it." After that Al said everything was great Lmao.

[@Batlord_Carcas]

The power of art that is music this is the ultimate punk collab next to LARD because it's Al and Ian whom started with punk rock then into Synth Rock Meets Hardcore Punk and bam this shit is fire!

[@inkydigitz]

I'd suggest it was because they had similar political views.

[@roisiles]

😂🙏✨

[@LuciosGamer]

Mat Hoffman Pro Bmx

[@herzsuarez739]

Yes sir, I played it a lot with my very first PC

[@SouzoSagara77]

I join the club!

[@elcaminocarcrsh]

Awww Zero video

[@mindomanshortyseven6508]

Loved that game and this tune tooooo.

[@TheIceManDan23]

I played that game in my early childhood years on my PS1😁

[@barrycorney3665]

Superb......thanks whoever you may be......blast from the past, amazing..... x

[@alejandroanibal4320]

This is not a weird combo, this is a without prejudice combo

[@blitzshriek999]

Alejandro ck Exactly-Ian knew what he was getting into, he is stronger than all that personal moral compass shit

[@andrea_myers]

blitzshriek999 Exactly. I'm reading Al's autobio right now, and he said when working with Ian that he told him to do what he had to do, just don't lie to him about it.

[@mikequinlivan8842]

Alejandro Anibal exactly. Good musicians don't discriminate when offers an incredible protect.

[@zippymufo9765]

@@blitzshriek999 Actually, Ian said that he didn't initially realize they were hardcore addicts. He thought they were just partying hard. When he got back with them for the Chicago sessions to finish up, it was when he realized they were seriously strung out and told them "Go ahead and put it out, but I'm not playing with you live or promoting it, we're done."

[@blitzshriek999]

@@zippymufo9765 it’s a hairsplitting session between two honest people dude-Al says otherwise. Believe what you want I guess it comes down to who ya dig better-but I definitely don’t want to turn into a National Inquirer columnist about it

[@nejilover95]

Love this track, been listening to this for a while, good memories.

[@poiitidis]

Ohh the Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX memories! Awesome tune!

[@Edysk8rock]

só de colocar esse som pra ouvir o role de skate fica insano ta loco, música foda demais, ZERO OR DIE!

[@shaolincochino]

First heard this in1987. Was in the skate vid, streets on fire.(I think)

[@JohnDoe-le7ml]

Pailhead had two songs in there. Surprisingly it wasn't this one. Man Should Surrender and Don't Stand In Line

[@lvquestpaddler]

Diamond track from 91......thanks and love xxxxx

[@MrVeniVidiVicioo]

Last heard this on John Peel's show in about 87. Still a brooding epic

[@maxeypad]

"I'm fucking ready!!"

[@robertemmonsemmons4331]

How could 14 people not like this if you don't know it there's no need to not like it

[@jenniferaaparo]

Fuck those people!

[@robertemmonsemmons4331]

Fuck you is more like it

[@jenniferaaparo]

Right back at you!

[@DonHibbardo]

+Jennifer Wow, I've seen it all now. You totally agreed with him, and he railed you for it.

[@r8dj]

You're not as think as you stoned you are

[@AkumetsuKun]

Just of note, when I was a DJ way back when, this tune was on an EP that was entitled "No Bunny". Sadly, I forget the B-Side of it. I came across it by accident in the vinyl stack and played it.. I got SO many calls off air (some from the US) regarding it that it became a regular playlist item on my show.

[@gringofett3944]

"No Bunny" was the other song. There's no bunny, its not funny Don't believe everything you read Its fable, just a label Don't follow the lead There's no bunny, I promise Its ugly Its stupid Don't be the same

[@johngoddamnit]

Don't Stand In Line

[@StephenACyr]

maybe the best soundtrack to a skate video ever

[@dj9ry]

How can you NOT love this?!!!!!!!!!!

[@humblesqid666]

I WILL REFUSE! love this song!

[@vadermasktruth]

Reminds me fondly of high school....1988, 1989...LSD.....Friday nights at Marc's house....

[@kyledoyle3762]

vadermask me too

[@sentinela8775]

vadermask really?? Was Marc there too??

[@jennifer1023]

Marcelo Pinto me three! 1989/ lsd/ moshing around to I will refuse!!

[@bobbyberetta4206]

vadermask//mass retaliation I little later for me about 92, LSD, Friday nights @ Jame’s house, skating up & down the block.

[@eseperro213]

This only has 29,721 views, it should have more. The song is tight ey.

[@scottevers8425]

Waxtrax and Chicago at it's Finest.

[@jasoncowley8379]

You can’t forget about DC

[@jolliepoussey9]

@@jasoncowley8379 DC who?? Chicago is the FINEST!!

[@Roflcrabs]

I found this and Drunk Injuns in a budget bin on the same day, the odds.

[@ChristBurner]

+Rafael Crabs funny i found this and drunk injuns in the same skate video... funny how awesome works out sometimes :)

[@sendnewbsskydiving7616]

+ChristBurner Mislead youth fuck yeah!

[@ChristBurner]

+Nathan Rogers < this guy fuckin knows :D

[@scuzzlebutt1980]

Injuns are the Shit! Lots Olvidados was great too.

[@scuzzlebutt1980]

los

[@Sheio]

Awesome song, have to listen loud

[@DbeatDanarchy]

a prime example of basic riff = great tune. The Soulfly cover of this is BANGING too.

[@KenKong1982]

Which is what brought me here 🔥

[@JonMalbrough]

The WAT

[@VencaRaw]

Mat Hoffman Intro 😘🖤

[@tini_mg33]

This song has me in a great place. Today.

[@simonedaishi5290]

"you're about to enter another dimension..."

[@HyperShan3]

Finally! Took me ages to find this beast of a song! Good times when this song played on Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX... Good times.

[@christx3326]

It's nice to finally see Pailhead on KZbin nowadays. Check out "Fugazi - First Demo (1988/2014)". Long time fan of Ministry & Ian Mackaye/Minor Threat and I'd never heard this Fugazi demo until recently when someone posted out KZbin. . It's freaking sweet, especially if you're a long time fan...the sound quality is bad ass, too

[@DrDougMusic1]

chris h I posted that Fugazi on the WaxTrax Friday twitter site as one of my favorite live jams about a month ago...until I heard this blast from the past that I almost forgot about that someone corrected me as one of the best live tune! Feel both songs will get ANY party started!

[@Oxiproproxide]

Me too. Only skating game I ever enjoyed, introduced my 12-year old self to some great bands too. (Pailhead and Bad Brains)

[@TheCannibalesco]

Meo tema Gloriossa realidad que me entregas lo irreal para procesar el Verbo divino

[@IGLOOMotorsports]

so good!

[@mattbritton2728]

Misled Youth (Zero Skateboarding) is how I found out about this.

[@vladydadygrenade3630]

Me3

[@nwofailure]

I read in an interview that Al Jourgensen intends to revisit this project with Ian.

[@subanga8507]

ill look it up. thanksoi remember this band . they were whats up for a short bit there. cool

[@jbell591]

Old school and one sick f'ing tune!

[@morphsix7124]

2020 this fucking world.

[@natgirrl]

My favorite song. Period.

[@PsyBeats]

Ahh... Class.. I've got this on vinyl with No Bunny. I bought it the week it came out..

[@grandmastergrayjedi91]

love this I'm blacc so what....amazing music

[@SAH.MARQUETTE]

I forgot about this!!!! Holy wah

[@maxesdj2609]

Thanks Matt Hoffman to brought me here!

[@Brambleiah]

This song is so BADASS!!!

[@parasitesundinism]

this song is on fleek thanks

[@musetteanddrums1970]

....the circle dance...then IWILLEREFUSE!!! slamdance. perfect

[@MeMe-xn4ue]

Remember going to Off the Record every week to get theses 45’s

[@calebkeegan3023]

Awesome Ian and Joey

[@AndreaFlores-cv4cy]

I love it

[@SkullLikeASecret]

Pailhead was ONLY Ian Mackaye and Al Jourgensen. The EP Trait came out in 1988.

[@MrSickness1138]

THANX FOR POSTING!! YOU SIR RULE!

[@4021971]

This came out long before 1990. Great song.

[@r8dj]

I remember scoring this at Wax Trax back in the glory days

[@mindomanshortyseven6508]

One long intro funking tune when it kick's in, LOVELY BUBBLY JUBBLY!

[@carronstick9600]

incredible

[@MegaKraftwerk]

THX AL J. etc..

[@arielmarquez1384]

siiiiiiiiii !!!!!!.!!!! lo encontre!!!!! temasoooooo!!!!!

[@bolmsp]

i like to spin this in my head when feeling disgruntled ! ! !

[@thomascallahan9167]

Damn this is great

[@aztr0zombie]

Thanks for reminding me of Lard! I'm going on a tape hunt in my basement now.

[@bolmsp]

- priceless ty

[@GazmoSin1960s]

An excellent and somewhat unusual project. This rules.

[@philiom7724]

My theme song for 2021.

[@user-hw2ik6rb3o]

Omg 😮 this is matt hoffman video game song ! Wow ! I found it

[@sokinfragoul]

Hello from 2020

[@esas.3337]

hi whats up

[@DesvendandoaWeb12e3]

love

[@peterlogan2105]

Another fun project of theirs was Pig Face. Ministry in Chicago at the Aragon theater was one of the funnest and bloodiest concerts. I enjoyed them better in the smaller venues then at Lollapalooza 2 at Irvine Meadows in California in '92 (which they still killed). The Metro in Chicago was another great venue. Al is the coolest dude (aside from me) whatever wore a tin foil hat. And he was right

[@Evilboy36]

Damn good shit!

[@KeithCamplin]

Ahhhh. Memories of my youth in the pit.

[@EricCampbellUAV]

please don’t ask me to attend 12-step meetings. I WILL REFUSE!

[@eseperro213]

Esta rola sale en el juego de Mat Hoffman's Pro Bmx.Mat Hoffman LA LEGENDA en el deporte.Pero claro el apodo de ese cuate es El Condor. Gracias por subir la rola guey.