INAV for Beginners 2023: 1. Why bother and what would you need?

[@MCOrigging]

the fact that you have taken the time to revise your guides by year is truly a godsend! too often the readily available guides are outdated and require additional research. i have been following this series with my first build, a 3d printed wing. these videos have been invaluable at every phase-thank you sir!

[@Alen.88]

I wanted video like this for a while, with new and upgraded equipment and software. Thank you Lee.

[@jaytank31]

Im going to watch these videos over and over till i get it figured out. Thank you for explaining it in detail. My first matek f411wte im not familiar with any of it lol. Ill learn

[@IceMan2035]

Your channel has got to be one of the best at explaining things for beginners. I'm wanting to get into fpv just looking for the right setup bc I don't want to crash my 1.4 scale jets and planes. Looking at getting a wing and using the Walksnail platform.

[@MikeErwin-fpv]

Looking forward to watching this caution I am very easily persuaded this might hurt the pocket book😁

[@jwtfpv8957]

A video series on Arduplane would be great. Keep up the good work. :)

[@Painless360]

Several of those on the channel already (including VTOL builds) check them out! I.e. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3vKmWmsjdiraKc

[@MCsCreations]

Excellent video, Lee! Thanks a bunch! 😃 I'm probably going to build something with iNav soon! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@Jay-zc7iq]

I’m about to finish up my first long range inav build (ranger 2400) be very handy , just going to keep it simple and slowly build up to each feature with each flight appreciated 🙏

[@Painless360]

That is the best way to do it. I see so many get into trouble trying to make their first build too complex.... best of luck!

[@terrymurphy562]

Excellent Lee, I always treat these videos you do like a refresher course. Educational.

[@julianhumphrey4843]

Lee excellent, i am gonna save these as i dont really know about setting Inav up so thanks for doing this

[@sarahdaviscc]

Another great video Lee and looking forward to the rest of the series dropping!

[@OneTwo-wt8qv]

Gonna follow along with my new F405 and a dusty Go Discovery .. cheers !!

[@tjfields22]

Can't wait till you post the next one.

[@Painless360]

Next one is out at the same time next week. Stay tuned!

[@kbytfs]

I've been procrastinating on setting up my ar wing pro with my matek controller and GPS, it's been on the back burner for best part of a year. I'm going to follow along as you set this one up, just the guidance and motivation I need, thanks!

[@pfeerick]

lol... Same... have the wing finally built up, now need to get the electronics for it... Just need to decide whether to get a matek FC or one of the new speedybee ones.

[@tin2001]

I'm the same. I've got a Bixler I specifically bought years ago to build Ardupilot into (I'd probably go with inav now)... Flew it manually twice. Crashed it on the second one. Repaired it a few months later.... And it's been hanging from a hook on the ceiling of my shed/office ever since. The GPS and flight controller intended to go into it are still sitting in my desk. Every so often I play with them, but I've been really hesitant and frankly afraid to mount them into the plane itself. Hopefully this series encourages me to actually do it and go out flying again.

[@baggszilla]

This was good! I'm coming from BetaFlight and quad copters! I just got a couple Defiant Wangs and an E Flight Maule M7. So this will be very helpful! Thanks Lee

[@richarddorsch7275]

Great job and thank you. I’m trying to learn about what terms like beta flight, INAV etc etc mean and your videos are helping me to do just that. Again……Thank you.

[@Painless360]

Check out kzbin.info/www/bejne/apXQo5SeeK-ipK8feature=shared Best of luck

[@breckfreeride]

I miss vector... Inav is the way now I guess. Couldn't do it without your most excellent tutorial videos! Been out of the hobby for a while and have lots to upgrade.

[@43Apfel]

Absolutely perfect Timing! Just Yesterday i was looking for an inav beginner series with inav 6!!🎉 After years of flying Quads i am finally building my First inav fpv plane. Zohd Dart 250g with speedybee f405wing

[@GatAppTechnologies]

Will the speedy bee F405 wing fit in a Dart 250? I have one and curious to get the Dart...but need something that will fit that FC

[@43Apfel]

@@GatAppTechnologies the Dart has definitely enough room for the FC. But you have to make a little 3d Print or Stick a piece of Balsa/ foam to make it sit level and flush

[@EastonSavage]

I just got done following your 2022 series dang it 😂

[@Painless360]

Almost all of the steps are exactly the same! To be honest, almost nothing has changed from last time! 😀 happy flying!

[@EastonSavage]

I figured as much, I just thought it was a funny coincidence! Thanks for all the work you put in for the amazing content you provide!@@Painless360

[@gunjafpv]

I'm not a beginner but I still watch these as they are great and little bits of information comes out. Though not sure the auto launch should "take you to the clouds" here in Cheshire 😂😂

[@Painless360]

Not sure what other direction autolaunch should take you in 😉 happy flying!

[@gunjafpv]

@@Painless360 yeah guess, but not all all the way I guess!

[@tommccauley7471]

Appreciate all your efforts. Saves me tons of time :)

[@zappex92]

Nice!!!

[@thomaslum2]

Looking forward to finally building my Dolphin and having a cool longish range camera flxed wing.

[@Painless360]

Dolphin is my #1 fixed wing! I hope you like it as much as I do! Best wishes for the build!

[@tommccauley7471]

Thanks!

[@bite685]

Thank you very much!

[@dronepilot260rc]

Awesome video! 🎉

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

I may take the plunge into the Fpv wing world and follow along.........

[@Painless360]

This is going to be almost identical, in terms of the entire process as last year's INAV for beginners series... stay tuned!

[@nerdCopter]

+1👍 💪

[@migalito1955]

Well, 12 years of being absent from the hobby and wow, what differences. I had been using a Spectrum DX 6 and receivers such as the AR610 or AR7010 which are meant for individual connections to each servo presumably using PWM as the communication between Rx & each servo. I was initially afraid my DX6 had become obsolete for use with a flight controller because the receivers I have are not using a serial output to the next piece of electronics in the chain nor can they via any jumper. Looking at the new line up of Spectrum recievers I see indeed they do have receivers intended for use with a flight controller by having a serial protocol for output to a controller. So its likely I don't have to trash my DX6 and spend another $350 on a transmitter. Assuming I can use a Spectrum Serial style receiver for interfacing with the flight controller you demonstrated in the video my 1st question is do you have a good choice for which to buy? On the other hand the serial protocol of the serial Spectrum receiver might not be identical to SBUS which I hear is a Futuba protocol, thus not usable with the controller you demonstrated. Should this be the case do you have a recomendation for a fitting controller? Thanks in advance as well as your tutorials on this subject and it was overwhelming without your videos as well as a bit of research to break thru what I have missed. Frankly at this point in time all I want is return home and the less capable stabilizer with the return home feature may work with old style PWM receivers, don't know and I will check that out. But, at a latter date I do want to add mission planning and telemetry so flight controller using INAV seems to be the better bet to start with. Thanks again, Mike

[@Painless360]

Hey Mike, sadly Spektrum don't widely support the protocols that modern, powerful, cost effective and open systems now use. Namely, SBUS and CRSF. Luckily, modern radios are a lot more powerful that the Spektrum stuff you're used to and can provide access to the modern hobby with all of the advances that have happened since you last flew. Check out my 'Kit Picks' video for this years picks.. If you want to stay with your Spektrum stuff, then you can use things like the ZOHD Kopilot Lite and connect via the PWM channels. I have videos on how that all works on the channel..

[@migalito1955]

@@Painless360 thanks.....

[@migalito1955]

​@@Painless360My second thanks. Your right, the lite versions of RadioMaster are not very pricy at all. I could get one for 1/3 the cost of the DX6 I bought in 2011. Spot on with Spectrum is pretty useless flight controller wise. Except for their satellite unit that can be made to work with round abouts their serial receivers are only for telemetry. Honestly, given all the hype from a decade or more ago regarding Spectrum was the way to fly they are a bit of a big disappointment. I just bought a small Durafly Tundra to fly out my back door as a birthday gift, so I will not go too crazy this month to celebrate my 68th birthday, but I think I will add the ZOHD Kopilot along with the cake to my self gifting. I did spend some time looking at it and it would really be nice to have on my 2 meter Salto which I can add some analog FVP to. I have plenty of space such as 130 acres, but a lot is woods and I am always worried about FPV using crappy analog resolution and becoming disoriented, thus for right now RTH on the Kopilot installed in the Salto would be very welcome. Later I'll update to the proper transmitter for all the really cool stuff. Again thanks and I am over the hump in understanding the needs now. The rest is pretty easy and not much different than mucking around with an Arduino so I expect once I get hopping it will not lead to frustration. Thanks much.....

[@jaytank31]

Im wanting to go inav i just got into fpv i have the ZODH Dart xl extreme with the ZOHD flight controlle i want to be able to do things like mission flights and want the osd too.

[@typxxilps]

I guess this is a new inav 6 series. Like these iNav series cause they cover usually also all the new features. What is a Matek F405-WNM ? I know the F405 W = Wing but NM is a new version ? I also have a Speedy Bee F405 Wing from may or so cause it supports the Wifi configuration even though I have the speedybe Adapter 3 for getting access to Matek F405.

[@AndrewNewton]

WMN - Wing Mini (I think)

[@Painless360]

They have been out for about 10 months... kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ6wpYCgiKZjm5I Happy flying!

[@TheWingnut58]

Hi Lee, working on my first Inav build, a Ranger 2m with the Speedybee F405 Wing. I had picked up a GPS, also from Speedybee, that didn't include a compass then ordered another that included a compass when I realized that the first one didn't "have enough wires"...lol You said that you didn't recommend using the compass on your wing....could you elaborate on your reasoning please? I seem to recall that you said in another video, on a quad IIRC, that you do indeed need a compass, I'm just curious as to why. Thanks for all you do, and share, my friend!

[@Painless360]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppfVf6aNathgmdU

[@TheWingnut58]

@@Painless360 Ha!....so that little matchbox full of electronic bits is smarter than the pilot! Thank you sir, for the explanation....not only does it make perfect sense, you also cleared up the differences between fixed wing and quads. Blue skies and light winds my friend!

[@Painless360]

Happy flying! :D

[@MarkJones-100]

Ok thanks for your input. One more quick question. If I get a tx16s with crossfire micro module and bind it with my nano tx will I get all the channels in inav like your tx16s set up vid ? Thanks

[@Painless360]

Yep, see my Crossfire series... Happy flying

[@GatAppTechnologies]

Is there a way to send system messages (like can't arm, no gps fix) to the radio? I'm using a radio master Zorro and have GPS data going to it nicely.

[@Painless360]

Not that I have found for arming failures, it's only standard telemetry, so you will get standard stuff like GPS fix. See my video on the INAV LUA scropt.... Happy flying

[@markvios29]

I'm wondering what runs on your radio? INAV or Open TX or EdgeTX?

[@Painless360]

See my Kit Picks video from the weekend, it's mainly EdgeTX now... best of luck

[@MarkJones-100]

Hi I’m a bit lost. I’m trying to use my Spektrum ix20 with crossfire tx lite module and nano rx with inav. My problem ( have searched hours ) is I can’t get many switches operating in modes. I have arm switch and three way flight mode working but that’s it, I have switches assigned to channels and can see them moving on my Chanel monitor but not in the receiver screen in inav. Any help would be appreciated

[@Painless360]

I've used crossfire here without issue, so I'd suspect something to do with the radio. Ideally, you want the radio to talk to the Crossfire module using CRSF.... best of luck

[@defendermods9420]

This is what we need. Just starting watching it. Q how does zadig work my PC will not connect. Download zadig found speedie be 405 fc and still doesn't work.

[@Painless360]

Lots of things it could be. See kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGalg2yVq7uqpqc and kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWjGi2hojLV7oMU

[@RC-Flyer]

I use JR and Spektrum radio equipment. Can I use INAV with this equipment?

[@Painless360]

If you can find a receiver that will talk SBUS, yes. Best of luck

[@MarkJones-100]

What radio did you use with crossfire. Also was it a nano rx. I see you’ve used a radiomaster Tx16 and have many switches available in inav Maybe I’d be better off with radiomaster as there are many set up vids unlike Spektrum

[@Painless360]

Vendors like RadioMaster are the go-to for the 'open-source' standards-supporting parts of the hobby now. Most of the vendors like FrSky, Spektrum and Futaba only want you to use their kit and are far more proprietary... Happy flying!

[@yardner7670]

Please address the Spektrum users. I am a Spektrum user, both Transmitter and Receivers. I’m always confused on how to use Spektrum on Inav and Beta Flite. Thanks

[@Painless360]

As Spektrum don't offer much (or any) support for widely used industry protocols like SBUS and CRSF, that is tricky. Radios from Radiomaster running Edgetx and ExpressLRS are fab options for the modern, open hobby, Happy flying

[@birdmantelly007]

Ihva bought a new Widows 11 Laptop. In the past three days I have attempted to down load and install Mission Planner and I-nav. The download seems to work but the unzip and install does not. What should I do ?

[@Painless360]

INAV doesn't need to be installed. What errors are you getting? I'd check that any AV software on the machine isn't stopping you from doing this too..

[@zvonimirtrgovcic5499]

Hi, Can use this video for setup Inav on AR WING PRO?

[@Painless360]

Yes, steps are the same... Happy flying

[@zvonimirtrgovcic5499]

@@Painless360 ok thanks!

[@pofotiouzois]

Can inav support vtol?

[@Painless360]

No, lots of complex things needed to be able to truly support vtol. See kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2KVpXSOo6yjqrs

[@tk-maker]

i saw inav got more potential.