Pairing a Cardo PackTalk Bold to a Sena 30K

Having trouble pairing to a non Cardo unit for intercom?
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[@carterjoseph1475]

After countless videos and bs info you had the solution. I kept trying to connect through “universal device pairing”on the Sena and they wouldn’t sync. Phone pairing worked right away. Who would of thought. Thanks again!

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Another quick tip! Always make the call from the Sena to the Cardo. If you call from Cardo to Sena its constantly drops off. Do it this way you'll have a more reliable connection. Just something I found after making this video👍😜

[@TheBlackandTheBeast]

Awesome mate! Just what I needed! ❤️

[@garyhosler4930]

Great video, but if the Sena owner has already paired his phone (I assume phone channel 1), then wouldn't the process need to be changed such that we pair with the Sena unit on phone channel 2? So on the Sena, press and hold the jog button for ~6 seconds until the red/blue LED flashes rapidly, then within 2 seconds tap the phone button (once). You should hear “second mobile phone pairing”. I assume that this would still allow the Sena rider to make and receive phone calls on phone channel 1.

[@ticoruizsuarez]

Thank you for the video, I needed this

[@SteveBrankin]

Hi - great video. I ride with a bunch of guys that use Sena 30ks. I have successfully bridged an Interphone set into the Sena mesh but there is another guy with a Cardo Pactalk and I can’t get it to work. I’m not sure the method in your video will bridge the Cardo into the Sena mesh (if I hit the mesh button on the Sena) - I think if the Sena were the master in the Bluetooth pairing maybe?

[@JohnBurnet1]

Our group have had intercoms for 5 years and still haven't linked up 😂, we have no excuse now. I got the Sena and everybody else got Cardo's, I always have to be different.

[@corski67]

My riding partner and I got this to work only after trial and error with my Card and his Sena. If you asked either of us how we finally got it to work, neither of us would have been sure! I had to look this up. Thanks for the explanation of what exactly the functionality is. That really helps as opposed to the step by step "just do this..." method employed by the manufacturers. The Card instruction pamphlet that comes with the unit is absolutely NO help as it tells you nothing about using the phone pairing method versus universal method.

[@thelikeablerider8800]

I'm glad it helped you, and thanks for your kind feedback👍😜

[@MichaelTrotman]

This works, but the connectivity is spotty between Cardo and Senna. I’ve found it works better to just make a cellular phone call and keep the line open for the ride. If you disconnect, just redial the number. It is a shame that mesh won’t work between units. Bluetooth intercom is just not good enough between riders.

[@thelikeablerider8800]

It's most definitely not ideal, but it will work to an extent!

[@guillermopatinomayer215]

hello, I have the Sena RT1 and also Cardo Freecom 4+ in several helmets that I use but has been ABSOLUTELY impossible to pair Sena with Cardo. I've read the entire manuals of both brands; did exactly what they say about how to pairing them but I wasn't able to do it.... Any of you have any idea about how to do it? MANY Thanks in advance !

[@SteinarPladsen]

? What connection did you do? BT only, or Mesh/DMC? I guess the DMC is the workable mode today .....?

[@jeffarnold3702]

Ahhhh technology! I understood everything you said up to "stay tuned and I'll see you after this ".

[@thelikeablerider8800]

👍😂😂

[@husuhusu2388]

Nnmjajjisie

[@JohnSmith-uy7sv]

That was the only part I understood. The last part. I'm trying to find the best, cheapest, easiest to use and pair to someone else if needed to intercom whatchamacallit. 😁

[@JHa77am]

I have sena SMH10 and my friend has cardo bold.. can I do the same? The way we do at the moment is both use discord..

[@aukanmeister]

This is pretty useful! Will try!

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Glad it helped👍😜

[@highlandriders9696]

Very helpful video pal. Cheers

[@thelikeablerider8800]

You're welcome buddy👍😜

[@shawngreenwood7825]

Hi Shaun, can other bluetooth or cellphone intercoms be linked to cardio? My dad has a cheap set that I would to linkin but have yet to make work even with manufacturer help. His unit is a fodsports bt-s2 pro bluetooth helmet intercom?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

I've only done it with the Sena 30k or the 20S, but in theory if should work with any unit, as long as it'll pair with a mobile phone👍

[@MattP168]

Great vid, nice one 👍

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Thank you Matt, hopefully more to come👍😜

[@GSCork]

Thanks for the video. Did this with the Cardo Black and an Interphone FC5. Paired successfully but can't seem to get them to communicate. Followed the initiate call but still no joy :( I also find the Hey Cardo commands rarely work ?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Sorry to hear that, unfortunately it's not always bomb proof and may not work.

[@dalehawkes1698]

Great video I’ll try it with my mates when we r allowed out again stay safe bud 👍👍

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Let's hope its soon, I've started to organize my Rawlplugs and screwdriver draw🤦‍♂️

[@dalehawkes1698]

@@thelikeablerider8800 🤣🤣👎

[@JohnSmith-uy7sv]

From your wife??? 🤣🤣

[@Sagivos355]

Great! It works perfectly 😃 Thank you.

[@thelikeablerider8800]

You're welcome👍

[@akaxe77]

Thanks for the video. If I pair it using the above method, can each unit (50S and packtalk bold) also be simultaneously connected to their respective mobile phones so they can each take calls if they receive it on their mobiles? How exactly would you keep both paired simultaneously to their respective phones as well please. Thanks

[@thelikeablerider8800]

In this example the Cardo pairs using the universal gateway, its only the Sena that pairs on a mobile phone channel, and the 50s should have 2 phone channels, so you shouldn't have a problem👍

[@haroldpeagler1430]

Awesome information thanks alot for this👍🏿

[@thelikeablerider8800]

You're welcome Harold👍😜

[@docholliday2364]

Good to see your ok brother. Work shop garage looks ally top job. Utrinque Paratus.

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Thanks Doc! Let's hope the weather improves very soon, and we're allowed back out on two wheels✌😎

[@savgs-ei6ch]

Looking at buying the Pack Talk. There are many mixed reviews regarding the voice activation, how do you find it Shaun? Just curious do you speak English or German when using voice activation...Enjoy your vids cheers Gary.

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Hi Gary Voice activation works well for me, no problems at all! I use the English voice commands. Only thing that happens every so often, is that the radio comes on all by itself.

[@savgs-ei6ch]

@@thelikeablerider8800 Thanks for the reply looks like the wallet getting abused again👍

[@NotNowCato1254]

Yeah, random 'radio on' seems to be a common Cardo thing. Cause for much hilarity on group rides, waiting for the first 'FFS! Hey Cardo, radio OFF!' 😂

[@thelikeablerider8800]

All adds to the comedy😂😂

[@tojj29]

@@thelikeablerider8800 And it is comedic too, ain't it Mike . We spend hours giggling at one of us shouting at the cardo to turn the bloody radio off!

[@fzmxtg]

We tried this with my friends Senna, but this seemed to lose its connection to my mobile phone and connected as a headset to his, so now I could chat to him but now was unable to hear any music on my phone as it took the session. Should this have been done following the steps for adding a 2nd mobile phone ?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Yes although it will connect to another unit, you will lose some functionality! I'd still recommend to use same brand headsets to avoid disappointment👍

[@cocomartens89]

hello would it be possible If I was using a packtalk bold and I'm joining a group of riders using Sena also? for example connecting 1 packtalk bold user to 8 sena users? is there a possibility on this? thank you!

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Yes of course! You just have to pair via Bluetooth to one of the Sena users, then once they have all started their mesh call, that single user must then call you via Bluetooth, and you'll be added to the mesh group.

[@UneasyRider]

Cheers pal.

[@edenconnell4322]

What distance would you get between the Cardo and the Sena when pairing this way? Would it be as good as just using two Sena units in their Sena mesh mode?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Range is never great doing it this way, it's always best to use the same units where possible.

[@edenconnell4322]

@@thelikeablerider8800 Ok thanks for this. Would you have an idea on the range? Eg. 100m or 500m etc?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Probably 200m working range, but the closer you can get, the better it'll work.

[@MichaelTrotman]

It’s easier to just call them on the phone and leave the line open. Bluetooth connectivity is awful.

[@xjr13john]

Very useful thanks fella

[@thelikeablerider8800]

You're welcome m8👍

[@grandehussar1868]

Nice vid! What if we have a group of ppl.. for exaple 5-6 guys where 4 got cardos and 2 senas. Can we get all together? Or can only 1 sena at a time join Cardo group?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

In theory it would work! You would need to prior pair to one of the Sena, and someone else the other. Create the Mesh call, you then call the Sena you're paired with, and then the second Sena, and they should be added. Do bare in mind that it's always works best to use the same units, it can get a bit complicated as people drop off the call.

[@philharmonik1gaming954]

Good video. Is it possible to connect two sena with one cardo packtalk slim with this method?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Yes! If you first carry out everything you've seen in this video first. Connect the two Sena together via a Mesh call, once connected the Sena that's paired with the Cardo needs to call him, and it will be added to the call. Bare in mind that connectivity may not always be that great, and you may lose a bit of sound quality, but it can be done👍

[@30charan]

Hi , nice information I would like ask you a question regarding connecting 4 Sena 5s intercom at time ? Please let me know if there is way to connect how we connect 4 intercom at a time

[@thelikeablerider8800]

If I remember you need to be pair with all 4 units, and then create a group intercom within the Sena App.

[@artimage2851]

Подключается но проблема есть в отключение. Законектились нажимаешь интерком, подключилось ровно через минуту связь скидывает и так до бесконечности. Как это победить?

[@theroadknight2669]

Thanks for making this so simple. Can you confirm this is done in Blue-tooth mode? And is it possible to pair in Mesh. BT is pretty fragile sometimes. PS - Love your channel!

[@thelikeablerider8800]

This was in bluetooth mode👍 yes you can add bluetooth units into a Mesh group, more content to come on that. Thank you very much, glad you like it😜

[@john__lemon]

Is it possible for the sena to be linked to its riders cellphone will doing this?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Yes via the Sena App, or do you mean for calls, Music and what not? That should function normally.

[@jamiedejong4560]

Can you do this with al the models of sena ? How much devices can you pair with each other ? Great video by the way !!!

[@thelikeablerider8800]

This should work with any intercom device that can pair with a mobile phone. I have other vids explaining how to pair with multiple devices👍😜

[@inoMadv64]

Do you know whether this will also work with a Cardo Packtalk Slim and a Sena SRL?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Yes! If you connect the Bold to the slim via DMC, then you can bring the Sena into the DMC with a bluetooth connect, like you've seen in this video. It's never an ideal situation, I'd always recommend to connect to more people with the same Cardo units.

[@inoMadv64]

@@thelikeablerider8800 thank you!

[@2wheelferrari916]

Genius. Thanks

[@silent_fluo6917]

My cardo switches channels after 10 seconds for some reason? How to change this?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

You'll find the connection more stable if you initiate the call from the Sena, and not from the Cardo. You may still find that it drops out from time to time, but it's better than initiating from the Cardo👍

[@penguinbowl5785]

After connection, is the sound quality of both sides horrible no matter what the distance? Once connected we also lose multi-tasking with music and intercom. Does anyone else have these issues?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

You will lose some functionality if connecting two different brands! Although it works to some degree, I'd still recommend going with same brand headsets.

[@vickihill3389]

Any help for connecting 2 Cardon Edges with a Sena Impulse? The method shown here, which appears so simple and easy does not work.

[@thelikeablerider8800]

I'm now running the Edge, haven't tried connecting to other brands yet, but I do know the Edge connects to other brands in a different way to the Bold. It should tell you in your user manual, otherwise the procedure should remain the same.

[@vickihill3389]

@@thelikeablerider8800 Thanks for responding. I did get the 2 connected Cardos to connect with the Sena Impulse. Primary Cardo has mesh connection to other Cardo and a bluetooth connection to the Sena. All 3 can talk now. From what I can tell, primary Cardo has to reach out to initiate the connection every time with the Sena even after the initial set up of the connection. And an initial set up did have to happen, I think. Hours of trial, error, and watching non applicable videos led to a lot of excitement when all 3 were connected.

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Once you get your head round it, it becomes easier. Only one Cardo unit has to be paired via Bluetooth to the Sena unit which you only need to do once. Always connect first to your other Cardo via mesh, once the call is live, make a Bluetooth call to the Sena, and he/she will be added to your existing mesh call. I do have other videos where I show how to connect multiple non cardo units👍

[@pierrekhaldoun]

Hi, Thanks for your review, nice trick. On a side note, if you have a mobile phone with Discord APP, you can create a Discord Chanel (let's say roadtrip #1), and then invite your mates into this Discord Chanel. Of course, it assumes that everyone in the group must have the app. Then you invite every riders in the Discord Chanel, they join, and that's it. Disclaimer: yes it will use data, yes it will use more cell phone battery, but most of us now have external battery. Did it and used it on several occasions, and it works well. Hope it helped. Best regards

[@ferrarihodnett]

I've purchased a smh5 model from the sena range and for the love of me I cant connect it to a packtalk bold. Do I need to do a firmware upgrade or does it simply not connect to a packtalk bold

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Yes always keep the firmware up to date, but it should work

[@ferrarihodnett]

@@thelikeablerider8800 even if I've just purchased the product? Thanks for the response 👍

[@thelikeablerider8800]

@@ferrarihodnett yes always! Altgough you've just purchased it, it could have been sat on the shelf for a few years.

[@TheLostAdventuress]

Thanks man

[@justinwhite3851]

How do you pair multiple Sena users to a pack talk bold?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Do everything you've seen in this video first. Let all the Sena's connect via their mesh, then the unit you paired with via Bluetooth make a call to you, and you'll be added into their live Mesh call👍

[@steveschklar7658]

Thanks for this. And, can you tell me how to get the Cardo and Sena paired in DMC mode please?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Unfortunately they cant be paired in DCM mode, only via bluetooth! Or do you mean adding a non Cardo until into a mesh call?

[@steveschklar7658]

@@thelikeablerider8800 I have paired my sena to PTB via bluetooth and then moved the PTB to DMC. IT WORKS BUT .... not clear audio and it locks out my BoomBox. I want to use boombox audio via PTB

[@hostdesgeldes2132]

Hello there, do you know if I can pair the Cardo with more than 1 Sena ?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Yes you can, but you only need to pair to one of the Sena's via Bluetooth. The Sena's should then initiate their mesh call, then the guy you paired too just needs to make a bluetooth call to you, and you'll be added into their mesh call.

[@hostdesgeldes2132]

Thanks 👍

[@user-bo5ft4dl5k]

I tried to make my 50R the main unit. But did not work. Can you make a video where the 30K is the main control unit.

[@thelikeablerider8800]

I've heard this about the 50R not working. Not a problem now though as Cardo have an update for cross branding intercom, so maybe have a look at that to pair your 50R with👍😜

[@mariokornmuller4025]

Nice video. But my Cardo always cancel the call after some seconds. Any info about that? The connection is not kept. I have to press always again to keep up the line. But all 10 seconds is not safe at rides.

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Get the Sena to initiate the call, then the connection remains constant 👍

[@mariokornmuller4025]

@@thelikeablerider8800 i tried to initiate the call with the button on the back. But it didnt do anything. The sena does not initiate anything after the connection is established.

[@mikejgriffiths]

Nice information Shaun. Have this issue all the time. Thanks. Cardo is by far the best though so everyone should buy a Pack Talk :). Ideally both manufacturers should talk to each other and develop a shared mesh system. Wouldn't that be an idea :D

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Thanks Mike! That would be great, although I'm not sure the two top dogs would be that interested in working that closely together! Best we stay with Cardo, as yes they are the best👍😜

[@simonrobinson7536]

Interesting, like the T-shirt not seen that design

[@seant8256]

Hi Shaun in our group we have 4 riders with packtalks and 1 rider with passenger with a senna,s. Am I right in thinking that only 1 rider can connect to him or can we all connect to him and passenger. Cheers mate 🤘

[@thelikeablerider8800]

If you pair yours to the Sena via bluetooth first, then initiate the mesh group with all the guys on the Cardos, once that is live l, call the Sena like shown in the video, that should bring the Sena into your mesh. I'm hoping to make more content on this soon👍😜

[@tojj29]

Cardos can have up to 15 in a group, all talking at the same time and sharing a mesh intercom "chat". You can bring a phone call into the mesh group and they can speak to everyone in the group. So Try this: Rider (1) with a passenger creates a mesh group and everyone joins as normal except obviously the Sena The rider (1) with the passenger, makes a phone call via his Cardo to his passenger with the Sena Once connected on a phone call, the rider (1) with the passenger presses the top intercom button on their Cardo and this will bring the Sena into the group chat via a phone call. We've done this and it works well until the Cardo and the Sena get too far apart. This should never happen as he's sat right behind the one who he's talking to on the phone Hope that makes sense. The only downside is most mobile phone carriers in the UK limit each call to an hour before they start charging outside of any bundles with inclusive minutes. So, you would need to stop/start a new call every hour

[@user-bo5ft4dl5k]

Gr8 video, still helping people 2 years later. I paired my 50R with Packtalk bold. What button to press on 50r to initiate the call? I press the center button it says intercom failed.

[@thelikeablerider8800]

You need to press the telephone buttuon on the back (if that is still the same as the 30k)

[@user-bo5ft4dl5k]

@@thelikeablerider8800 thanks, but the 50R back button controls the mesh. Looks like there is no way to start the intercom form the 50R.

[@thelikeablerider8800]

There's no phone Button on the 50R, I'm not familiar with it?

[@Guit0rplay0r]

Hey, first thanks a lot. Today I tried it with a friend. I got a 30K he’s got the bolt. I connected my Sena to his bold with the cardo app. We could hear each other fine. After some seconds the connection cancels. Any idea why and how to fix? He also had his phone connected to the bold for navigation. Thanks for helping me :)

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Make the call to him from your 30k and the connection should remain. Seems that making the call from the Bold to the 30k has issues. It's the same with me, the connection disconnects after a few seconds. Initiate from the 30k and you should be fine👍

[@Guit0rplay0r]

@@thelikeablerider8800 thanks, we will try this next time

[@gee4zfpv]

My Cardo Packtalk Bold only goes to "Start Grouping" when I press and hold the top button? Can't get it to "Gateway"??

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Are you on the most up to date firmware?

[@Dan_TheMedic]

That's becuase he missed out the part where you have to switch it from DMC (or Mesh) mode, to Bluetooth mode. Press and hold both the top and bottom buttons till you hear it say BLUETOOTH MODE, then try.

[@Victoryk1200s]

Will that work the if it's a Sena 20s as it does for the Sena 30

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Yes it will👍😜

[@Victoryk1200s]

For the fast response, I subscribe. Big thanks 👍

[@Dan_TheMedic]

PLEASE NOTE* to put the Cardo into Gateway Pairing, you first have to switch from DMC to Bluetooth mode. This opens a universal ability to pair the Packtalk Bold with other, non-Cardo units.

[@tordthelord]

Does this make it possible for a group of cardo riders to include a sena intercom to the group?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Yes that's possible, I have another video that shows you how to do it👍😜

[@tordthelord]

@@thelikeablerider8800 thanks!!😍

[@paulrobles571]

What if one couple has senas and the other couple has the cardo can all four talk together at the same time?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Yes it's possible, but slightly more complicated! Carry out the same process as shown in the video, and do exactly the same with the remaining Cardo and Sena. The two Cardo then need to make a Mesh call to each other, and while that call is live each individual Cardo makes a Bluetooth call to the Sena he's paired with, and everyone should he able to speak to one another.

[@obiektywny_turysta]

so this is bluetooth connection betwen them? Not normal, intercome connection?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Normal intercom is a bluetooth connection, Mesh would be the newer intercom method. Cardo have now updated their latest models with cross branding intercom, which means you can now pair with other branded intercoms in the usual way.

[@obiektywny_turysta]

@@thelikeablerider8800 cardo pactalk and Sena 10c evo. How about them?

[@Dan_TheMedic]

@@obiektywny_turysta NO! Latest models from ther EDGE onwards.

[@spongeaus]

I got it to work and can speak but the cardo black drops it and you have to push the top button, it then connects to the sena as a phone and you can chat for a short bit then it drops again.

[@thelikeablerider8800]

I found the same over time, but if you make the call from the Sena and not from the Cardo the connections stays constant.

[@spongeaus]

@@thelikeablerider8800 what button on the sena do you press to initiate the call and howlong/ how many times

[@thelikeablerider8800]

@@spongeaus blimey it's been a while! I think the telephone button, one tap👍

[@przemyslawkosyk304]

ucom16 (sena compatible) cardo... it works like in this tutorial but after few sec Cardo switch off this "host mode" and again owner of cardo must push again the button to reconnect. Is any setting like "keep host mode" on cardo???

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Make the call from the non Cardo unit, then the connection will remain. I noticed that after making this video, that making the call from the Cardo the connections disconnects after a few seconds.

[@przemyslawkosyk304]

@@thelikeablerider8800 make the call from nonCardo: ??? Just make some dummy GSM call???

[@thelikeablerider8800]

@@przemyslawkosyk304 yes initiate the Bluetooth call from your ucom and not from the Cardo unit

[@spongeaus]

how do you initiate a call on the sena 30k

[@thelikeablerider8800]

One push on the telephone button 👍🤔

[@farrelelvansa9155]

Why mine is coloured green?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

You mean the light? Green means you're in DMC mode, a blue light is Bluetooth mode.

[@ianbiddle7414]

If only that worked. I have watched loads of these videos and spent hours trying to connect my cardo to other systems, with no success so far. 😢

[@thelikeablerider8800]

But you see it working in the video!🤣

[@Valentino50541]

That was nice but not what I needed Because I have 4 friends that did by Cardo's and one that bought the Sena 50 S. So I have to give up three friends for one. LOL! I will keep looking for the correct video. Thanks

[@thelikeablerider8800]

You can still talk with your friend with the 50s, I have other videos explaining how to do it👍

[@Smokey00]

1:22 you're supposed to press one of the buttons to pair when they nare in that mode

[@stephenalbert856]

I have Cardo and my three friends have Sena. I have saved this video for first coffee break on next trip. Does this mean I just speak to one Sena rider and he then has to pass on to the others or can they all hear ?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Hi Stephan You just need to pair to one of your Sena m8's (pairing via the gateway, to mobile phone) wait for them to go live with their group intercom. Then either you make the call to the Sena, or him to you, and you'll be added to their group.

[@stephenalbert856]

@@thelikeablerider8800 Cheers mate you are a star

[@MZE10R]

Could you please show us how to pair Cardo with Sena50S.

[@thelikeablerider8800]

It'll work with the 50s in the same way.

[@MZE10R]

Thank you so much.

[@rideict2874]

Somehow the connection will be terminated a few seconds later. Anyone has the same problem? Using a Sena SFR

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Yes I have the same, but if you make the call from the Sena to Cardo (one press of the phone button) then the connection remains. From Cardo to Sena always fails like you say!

[@mickyoung4931]

Thanks for passing on the knowledge. All voice commands work well for me except OK Google/Hey Siri, Cardo unit will respond but phone does nothing. Does it work for you?

[@stephenalbert856]

I had similar problem. Read somewhere to go into settings and turn everything up. Hey Presto from then on.

[@gerryclemonsii]

Can you share music this way?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Pretty sure that music cannot be shared to a different brand headset, but haven't tried it.

[@tskp]

You are the F*cking MASTER !!!! THX so much!!!

[@mofufu]

My connection w non cardo (sena) never last for more than 10secs. Any idea why ?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Hi Stella Yes mine did that a couple of times in this example, seemed if I added the 30k first, the 20s would knock it off. Only did it a couple of times but then stayed on. Didn't mention it because I thought I'd done something wrong. Be worth letting Cardo know as bugs like that can be sorted in firmware upgrades. Thanks for you info👍😜

[@mofufu]

@@thelikeablerider8800 thanks for the reply! How did u fix it though ? And is your cardo still connected to your mobile ? I’m thinking maybe the problem is with my cardo still being connected to my mobile ?

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Yes mine was connected to my phone, just connected a couple times and then it stay connected, didn't do anything different. I'll have a look into it, meanwhile I've just let Cardo know👍

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Interesting though looking back on it, it was only the 30k that disconnect a couple times, the 20s didn't drop off once. I always connected the 30k first, and thought when I connected the 20s, it knocked the 30k off. So connected the 20s first, then the 30k and it stayed on. The problem in my example was definitely the 30k. Might be worth checking everything is running off the lastest firmware. Will keep an eye on the issue.

[@mofufu]

@@thelikeablerider8800 yea I have also asked cardo and run their troubleshoot but still not working. I have only test it on sena 50s and even updated both cardo and sena firmware. Maybe it’s the model plus firmware issue hmm.

[@alp3781]

It has to be a joke that 2 large companies can't work together on the Mesh connections. It's actually stupid, in my mind. However, I think Cardo is the best bet, so far. Just the waterproof itself, is a no brainer. Second, the sound and voice commend.

[@bryanthorne3474]

Cardo is all for it and has tried multiple times to cooperate with Sena but Sena is stonewalling it. They're the biggest company in the game and they basically want to force everyone into their system by making the integration process as painful as possible for us riders. A$$h0le capitalism at its finest.

[@thelikeablerider8800]

They've recently released a firmware update (for the lastest models only) which now enables cross brand pairing, like you would do to pair to the same brand👍😜

[@bryanthorne3474]

@@thelikeablerider8800 That's awesome! But now that means I have to upgrade! haha

[@patrik9666]

Doesn't really work for me. They pair together, it works, but they always disconnect after couple of seconds :-(

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Make the call from the Sena to the Cardo, and it'll stay connected

[@patrik9666]

@@thelikeablerider8800 Thanks for the tip! I will try it tomorrow and share my experience.

[@patrik9666]

@@thelikeablerider8800 We couldn't find any way to call "phone" (Cardo) from Sena C10. The phone reconnect operation or whatever it's called, did not do anything. We gave up, gonna have to rely on overtaking each other and showing hand gestures to communicate while riding. Fuck this bullshit. 300 euros well wasted on both sides. Sena on Schuberth side and Cardo on AGV, both integrated.

[@Dan_TheMedic]

@@patrik9666 The easiest way to connect two different brand headsets is simply through phone calling each other. You won't lose connection either like you will over bluetooth OR DMC (Cardo) and Mesh Technology (SENA). For some reason Sena refuse to collaborate with Cardo despite numerous attempts from Cardo to develop a hybrid version of both mesh tech that will inmtergrat with one another. Pathetic if you ask me as there will still be the loyal Sena and Cardo customers will stay with each brand, a bit like the Samsung/Apple debate. This video shows you how to connect non-cardo units to the Packtalk Bold kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZ_Qg2undrGCgMUsi=-p9fX7uFY7OPt4sd so whether you can adpot the same principle to connecting a Sena to Cardo remains to be seen. I'll try it as my brother has the Sena 50S and I have the Packtalk Bold.

[@mrcintheuk5596]

You've just ruined everyone's excuse for not connecting to people they don't like! 😁

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Oops my bad!😂😂

[@andyb3331]

Exactly what I was thinking - we keep telling our mate our Cardo’s won’t connect to his crappy Bluetooth coms - Cheers Shaun!!😂😂😜

[@thelikeablerider8800]

You guys are gonna get owned!😝

[@rodpoole323]

this absolutely destroys the battery life on the pack talk bold, easy fix tho lob the sena in the nearest lake :) :)

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Or that👍😂

[@tojj29]

Good idea. Sena=junk

[@trsskater]

Why does every review of either unit say that pairing with the other brand doesn't work? Goes to show you most people don't know what they are are doing, but act like they do. And don't trust every reviewer that says some function doesn't work.

[@killik1]

Sena is the worst intercom ever. Go Cardo 100%

[@thelikeablerider8800]

Wouldn't go that far, my 20s and 30k worked fine, but I do prefer Cardo👍😜