Paladin Tries To Blow Up The Party, BACKFIRES HORRIBLY

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[@CritCrab]

Okay even after editing/uploading I'm still left clawing my head. Calling for the crab council to help me solve this mystery. Is there something I'm missing? Or is he just a weirdo?

[@RiotQueen144]

It sounds like he just wasn't communicating but the confusing part is that he wasn't communicating but when everyone was open to talking and urging him to talk. He just shrugged and said "no. I don't wanna talk." It seems like to me, he wanted to punish the others for supposedly not including him but when he was swiftly killed, he just took the L and left. Yeah, there are pieces of the story missing but it's clear Mill is withholding them and doesn't seem keen on sharing.

[@maximusdork3336]

I also feel like something's missing. Maybe OP left something out, possibly deliberately.

[@Rain593]

He's an odd duck I think.

[@FlamesofJagger]

Well it certainly is a communication issue on Mill's side. What I don't get is why he wanted to try an join another game run by the same DM if it was just as likely he'd be having the same problem.

[@JimRaynorRaider]

I think he has problems going on irl and might have depression is all. Seen these types before.

[@KyrosTheWolf]

"Why aren't you enjoying it? How can we make it better?" *He looks at you with his doll like eyes and remains silent*

[@Jpeg_skeleton]

I get the reference!

[@augustehoulle7850]

What is it ?

[@KyrosTheWolf]

@@augustehoulle7850 Another Critcrab video involving a murder hobo dark elf

[@janvernw]

Me too. :)

[@endernightblade1958]

good ol Feanor

[@rossjohnstone4689]

You know, it's actually really satisfying when a plan like this backfires this bad.

[@sealessseadog2735]

Hell yea!

[@kentlindal5422]

"I love it when a plan doesn't come together."

[@michaeledmunds7266]

@@kentlindal5422 Beat me to it XD

[@FatalArcana]

I wouldn't even be mad if my character went out that epic.

[@hartraiser]

I think its beyond the fact the plan backfired, the whole situation is just a masterpiece in of itself. Like, what a story.

[@klom89]

Listening to this, I got two things out of it: * The DM really should've popped in. It shouldn't've even gotten to the point they had to use the Astral Plane strategy. The fact this lasted for months on-end is a them problem, especially since Brush himself was a worried party and thus aware of the issue. They were here for Brush, not the game; Brush should've gotten involved. * Mill's deliberate paradox of "I want to communicate but I don't want to communicate" gives me the impression that they're very insecure (or perhaps anxious). They probably expected Brush to be their mouthpiece and when they didn't, they felt the need to lash out.

[@Adamant_Consternation]

It also sounds like Mill might be on the autism spectrum.

[@marker9196]

Well, that paradox is what actually makes me think the story is either made up or missing out details that probably don't paint OP or the rest of the group in the best light. To be bored with a game to the point of not bothering with it but still sticking with it for months and then suddenly hatching this elaborate revenge plan seems....unlikely. As a general rule, interpersonal problems are not and should not be resolved at the table with die rolls, if a story ends with the problem player getting BTFO'd by a quick thinking party then that's a bit of a red flag for me, a good DM should not only never let issues get to this point (they're not just the person running the game but also serve as a mediator for the group at large since they serve as the final authority) but they shouldn't treat a player (especially one who seems to have actual personal problems) as a boss encounter like this, if nothing else that is only going to escalate the feelings of division and conflict in the party by literally framing it as actual combat.

[@nickbrown4175]

Personally, if I was the DM, the situation would have ended when he said he ate the flower. "No you don't. Leave if you don't want to be part of the plot."

[@blackwingdragonmasta]

It seems like they wanted an excuse to try and kill the party tbh

[@phoenixfire02_50]

@@Adamant_Consternation As someone on the spectrum, there are certain types that are prone to that sort of action. Luckily I’ve never done this in my years of DND

[@archaros]

Can we realize that the DM let everything happen ? If a player make their character do an specific action because of out of game reason, the DM shouldn't let this happen.

[@ricardomonteiro870]

as a DM, when shit like this happens, it's your job to narrate "a bolt of lightning drops from the sky onto asshole instantly killing him, the mcguffin is safe" and instantly go "player get the f outta here and don't come back"

[@ongabobonga6543]

I mean at least it was cool?

[@AuntLoopy123]

@@ricardomonteiro870 That, or in the case of a newer player, simply saying, "No, you don't do that. I do not allow that. So, let's take a break, and we can discuss the issue out of character, OK?" And then, after a chat, if the player insists they still want to do that, that's when the DM has his "rocks fall, and only you die," moment.

[@TheAres1999]

The other players seemed fine with dealing with it in character. The fact that they dove into battle shows that they are okay with some level of PVP. The DM should only intervene like that when necessary.

[@justin9744]

Yea it honestly played out pretty well (overall) and made for a very cool story moment that suddenly shakes things up and was actually unexpected. Seems like a great way to launch into the next part of the campaign which should be super easy to get back on track.@@TheAres1999

[@zixserro1]

That sounds like the guy basically saying "I'm not having fun, so let's start everything over. I'm going to end the campaign by destroying the item we're protecting and killing the entire party, so then we can either stop playing or make all new characters and start a new adventure." Basically if he's not having fun, no one can have fun. That last edit makes me think that Mills thinks that D&D is just "hit monster with sword get XP and gold" rather than an actual roleplaying game, and that's fine if you want to play like that, but it sounds like the group he's in isn't for him if that's how he wants to play.

[@danielmbg]

I never understand people who want to play RPG just for the combat, if you just want combat go play a board game that has a deeper combat system. The fun of an RPGs is the limitless possibilities that it offers, and what makes the combat fun is the story surrounding it.

[@devidevil888]

He could just go play skyrim and let his party have their fun in peace

[@turnt_barbarian]

@@danielmbg I've never been there solely for combat, but it's totally my favourite part of D&D. I mainly play paladin or barbarian when I'm not DMing but i use that extra freedom in combat to rp, taunting opponents etc. But yeah, if people are there only for combat maybe find a table willing to do the same? I'm sure there are many like it

[@xSaraxMxNeffx]

youd be surprised how much the RPG term has been conflated with videogames at this point. In videogames yeah there is roleplaying but its all just a multiple choice script, you dont have to actually interact with people organicaly which can be scary. I know when i started playing I tried to treat it like i was playing dragonage and quickly found myself lost and confused. also, i know many people that find it very hard to talk to people but also desperately want to be included in things. they are very very hard to work around but its not necessarily their fault. Mill was an ass about it yeah, but it didn't help that they let this go on for WAY TOO LONG without sitting everyone down and explaining what the hell was going on. We've had a few Mills in my group's time together and generally if you let them know they need to do their own interactions - even if you arent going to actually act you can still interact which might have helped mill a lot - they will eventually find their gaming voice somehow. if you aren't up for that kind of investment though (trust me its a lot of work sometimes and it is totally not your job as a player or DM to do this kind of thing) then dont just let someone sit there and suffer. if you can tell they arent having fun - even if they wont say they want to leave - then you need to make them stop because this is the kind of thing that taints friendships. short term asshole, long term friend.

[@AuntLoopy123]

@@xSaraxMxNeffx The thing is, a good role-player can make a REALLY interesting arc out of having a character start out shy and quiet and uncommunicative, and gradually learning to open up, at least with the group. But if the player refuses to communicate with the other players, that is unacceptable, and the entire group needs to USE THEIR WORDS, and say, "Look, you need to communicate with us. We are not mind-readers. We have no spell for that. We won't play this session, until you TELL US WHAT YOU WANT." You might need to be blunt, or you might be able to be subtle, but it MUST be done.

[@annagramgaming8934]

The DM had a duty to step in on that, preferably before it went off the rails, and definitely as it did. The player having his character quote real world concerns in his RP is a full-stop indicator the scene just has to end and discussion must take place. Also, basic DM skills, like asking where he got 216 bombs, would apply if it were not for this larger issue.

[@Hyde_Hill]

Well at least he fudged the rules allowing both a grapple and a teleport to the astral plane in the same turn in order to rob him of any "glory".

[@kaylawoodbury2308]

THEY DID try to fix things as they were happening and Mill was unreceptive. Seriously, why are people only listening to the last minute of the video?

[@shizanketsuga8696]

Yep, and OP doesn't even mention _anyone_ taking exception to the blatant OOC motivation (or wondering about the origin of all those bombs). Makes me pretty confident that it was a shitty group overall and that OP didn't even come close to retelling all the relevant details of the story.

[@milkjug4237]

@@shizanketsuga8696 Why are you confident with so little to go off of tf Edit: it could be true, but still

[@richardduska1558]

I think OP is lieing about this story. It has way too many inconsistant moemnts in it. Like the guy doesn't do much and sits in the corner but than has this grand scheem? Than the whole bombe and OOC moment where nobody even raises an eye brow or adress it? This is far from normal.

[@AvengerAtIlipa]

I like how the DM just let a player have 216 bombs in a bag of holding.

[@adambooth7755]

Yeah, this was baffling to me. like, was it already establish in-game that they were storing that many bombs in the bag of holding for some reason, or did Mill just decide that as part of their spite-plan. I so, and they just declared it, the DM dropped the ball huge by just allowing it to happen.

[@Mokiefraggle]

Some DMs allow for really weird crap without asking their players why they're doing something. My group's most frequent DM thought nothing of not only allowing our group's resident That Guy (before everyone realized that was in fact what he was) to request that his alchemist wizard be allowed to make horrible experimental poisons and do things like trade his soul away at the Goblin Market for powerful magical items that conveniently gave him ways around some of the worst of a wizard's fragile nature (we were playing 13th Age, where all magical items are sentient artifacts of great power, and having a number equal to your level drives you insane), while also giving a character he was already playing as batshit crazy free reign to be a violent madman. The DM's reasoning was equal parts being an "I do whatever it takes to keep my players happy" doormat and believing that our That Guy was just working through some issues (he'd screwed up royally with a girl at work, and basically went misogynist creeper seemingly overnight), so he let him get away with a ton of abusive behavior toward the rest of the group. It ruined what was otherwise a good campaign in terms of plot, because by the end it was all about the rest of the party against one abusive douchebag that the DM was willing to allow to get away with murder because he didn't want to hurt his feelings.

[@TenNoOkami]

If the player had the bag, and the money to get all those bombs and the setting allowed for easy acquisition, there's not a lot the DM can do, i don't think the paladin just declared that and the DM just allowed, there's a lot of context clues we don't have here, they played the campaign for months, there's months of detailed information we're missing. The number of bombs was rather specific, 216, it stands to reason that the paladin used all their loot to acquire the bombs and again...if your setting allows for that, the DM can't really veto it, so it is conceivable. The DM homebrewed magical ressurrection flowers into the world, there's no telling what else was available. If the rogue had access to such a powerful magic item(teleporting daggers and a Robe of the Stars), it is fair to assume the paladin also got equivalent loot and valuables despite his clear desinterest. A robe of the stars is a very rare magic item, estimated value being 50.000 gold pieces. A keg of gunpower capable of detonating to deal 7d6 damage in an area is worth 250 gold. 216 kegs of gunpowder would come about 54.250 gold...its not too farfetched to believe the paladin really did have access to this, seems pretty reasonable within each of the party's individual budget.

[@rollingtwenty2266]

@@TenNoOkami What f$&king merchant has that amount of gunpowder and bombs around to the point that a GM isn't going to be like "wait a minute, why?" This whole story reeks of Bullsh&t

[@myname9130]

@@TenNoOkami The DM can veto whatever he wants, I don't think you understand this game

[@AGoodBrentDogs]

Paladins aren’t dumb characters, they just seem to be played by the dumbest of players.

[@DrZaius3141]

Because people who see themselves as "Lawful Good" most of the time are neither lawful nor good. The entire "honour" and "oath" crap is usually only used by dishonourable people to get to exploit others.

[@DocDelray]

Agreed

[@TheLoraxshadenough]

Yeah it seems like it

[@SuperG3cko]

They always think they can command a God and therefore the GM. Fuck that shit.

[@Kairos_Akuma]

Agreed. Especially the Lawful Stupid - uh Good variety. Know some awesome Palli-Players tho.

[@cooldemon5545]

Paladins can either be the dumbest players, or the dads of the group that keep the party in line.

[@lbobby6116]

Seriously, every paladin I've seen is either: 1: Absolute definition of lawful good, prevailing through anything 2: Cuck

[@15oClock]

All of Mill's problems would evaporate if he just put the effort in. His indecision would be gone, no one would be mad at him, and no one would think it's their fault he isn't having fun. But no, he thinks fun will just happen if he sits down at the table. That only leads to your own misery.

[@elgringofeo9348]

I can already imagine this guy having no friends and working at McDonalds ...

[@chimerakait]

Untreated depression is a slippery slope, he is either depressed and miserable or a miserable dick.

[@jacoosacoon118]

Didn't you know ots not COOL to TRY ugh so uncool /s/

[@rodjacksonx]

Yep. This should probably be explained to new players, even if just in passing.

[@Davtwan]

But why can’t people do it for himmm! Other people are just his entertainment, riiiiiight? 🤪

[@WolfyFancyLads]

Paladin: Doesn't join in on the story. Also Paladin: "YoU dIdN't LeT mE jOiN iN!" Somebody needs to teach the boy how social interaction works. Eh, nah, and "I dunno" isn't conversation, it's half arsed at best and insulting at worst.

[@demod2080]

Reminds me of the time I had a player who was so dumb, I had to give them a custom made weapon to remind them they can rage that they can use with a bonus while raging. Reminder she also thought rampant murder was inconsequential until an entire village rallied to pitchfork and torch her ass.

[@clericofchaos1]

I once played a paladin that blew up a sizable chunk of men under his command in his backstory. I basically made Zapp Brannigan and killed a kraken at level one...by sending wave after wave of my own men to their deaths...and of course i took all the credit. Netting me knighthood and making me a legend at level 1. It was my first real attempt at an asshole character and i came to find out that even though the rest of the party hated him for his rash decisions and always talking down to the party the actual players and my dm absolutely loved the guy. I had succeeded in making a character that was stupid, arrogant, and what is basically a con artist that was loved out of game. Do you have any idea how hard that is to pull off?

[@alexinfinite7142]

Can I please steal this?

[@clericofchaos1]

@@alexinfinite7142 you can try, but man it takes a lot of work to make an asshole character, who is loved by the entire rest of the universe, but hated by the party without ticking off people out of game. So, you'd basically have to go through the whole thing with your gm and your party in session 0 and then do what i did by asking at the end of every session if you went to far and should dial it back a bit. That was my biggest fear cause i didn't want to annoy people as players.

[@Squall598]

It's hard to pull off well but rewarding when you do it though. I've had straight up evil characters before and also ran a misogynistic guy who was over the top when it came to women but I never ran a complete arsehole, and I've only seen one other player at the table pull it off and be liked. The misogynistic character was somehow well liked by the party even though I gave them full licence to kill him off early game or let me know if they wanted me to stop and change something. I think just to annoy me they left him alive so that I was forced to play him, I also ran them through the character concept and his personality in session 0.

[@clericofchaos1]

@@Squall598 Nothing quite as fun as pulling it off though. Any character that the rest of the players love is always a good thing but it's even better when the character is unlikable.

[@clericofchaos1]

@@jennystpierre5501 I agree. I think that's incredibly important if your doing anything like that. Whether it's something as extreme as being homicidal maniac behind the parties back or just being an in-game prankster. You should always check to make sure you're not going too far and nobody is getting uncomfortable.

[@LocalMaple]

This reminds me of a kid who kept complaining about not having a spotlight on her, but she kept moving off her mark by 10’ to stand with only one arm in two spotlights trained on her position. “I’m not doing much!” _Doesn’t read class abilities, nor listens to fellow players on what he can do._ “You guys aren’t including me!” _DM has to ask you directly for any form of input, which comes in half a sentence._ “I’m not having much fun!” _Bottles it up rather than tries to fix it himself._

[@aaronreynolds1504]

It really feels like this person was actively trying not to enjoy the game.

[@LocalMaple]

@@aaronreynolds1504 I have a follow-up story to this, which is somewhat relevant to “being nonparticipant yet still engaged.” Due to scheduling, my next campaign had split session 1s, where different players get introduced to each other at different intervals. This makes partners/rivals within the full party before getting together. (We did this for the prior campaign, and was a lot of fun. One of those pairings was a Paladin of Light and a Cthullu Warlock; it turned into a “no evil babysitting duty”). For my session 0.1, I got paired with the DM from our prior campaign, somebody who can do lordly sorcerer, paranoid warlock, imposing dragon, snake oil dealer, and more. And I think we got paired because his character acted as a foil to mine. After over 30 minutes of me roleplaying… Look up “Elven Lied Lucy Zoo scene,” and replace her edginess with a Noble Lady façade. When I converse with others, I do my best to be a diplomat from the court of Misthaven. But the moment I step outside, it’s my first view of a beach and ocean, and I kick up some sand. Then I go into a shop, and it’s all tinker toys and wind-up toys; let’s just say I earned my DM Inspiration twice over. Anyway, after/with half an hour of that, in comes former-DM, as an Edgelord Bard who hates magicians. The DM tries to give him three opportunities to roleplay, but Edge gotta Edge. More of his roleplay was making sure I wasn’t going to steal from the shop, or taunting my height (2’8”, or 81.28cm). The last roleplay moment the DM offered EdgeBard was when we interrogated a cultist who attacked us. Well, more accurately, the city guards we fought alongside interrogated him as we watched. My naïve character didn’t participate, due to not being familiar with people fighting fellow people and interrogations. EdgeBard got into it only at the end, and used three intense sentences and Deception to make the cultist talk. Cultist admitted he was hired by a Half Dragon. When EdgeBard didn’t press further, I decided to let my naivety and innocence leak out, using the same tone as “but why male models” in Zoolander: “Half Dragon, half what?” That got an awkward laugh out of the table, and the question wasn’t answered. _(EdgeBard, if you’re reading this, I’m sorry if I stole your scene)._ I know former-DM is having a good time, despite being an Edgelord. He is thinking about his actions in game, and did a good job remaining aloof yet a participant. And (I hope) he is enjoying my antics, after me playing a serious yet friendly Rogue-Ranger. So yes, it’s possible to have fun, and get along with the party, even as an Edgelord. P.S. My DM decided to look up Half Dragons, and a could days later told me they aren’t a true race, but rather anything that is half dragon. So we joked about him being half butterfly (with wings too small to support him), half donkey (who brayed his words), or even half snail (slimy, with his shell acting as a helmet). We three around ideas of a minor retcon being the interrogated cultist either not knowing what the half race was due to never seeing him, or we don’t talk about his other half.

[@Arkannon]

Never in my life have I heard of someone playing a paladin and forgetting smite, even new players still getting to grips with the game forget lay on hands before they forget smite just a weird story.

[@fckthefearturkey]

Nah that part was legit, Also played with a paladin who didnt know he could smite. Just told him a few times during combat and then he learned, but before that he was just a shitty fighter.

[@the4given196]

@@fckthefearturkey we have a druid in our party that didnt wildshape ONCE during combat and casted one spell during combat. she basicly just played her druid as a fighter

[@kcollier2192]

OP didn't miss anything about Mill- he's just a person that wants to hang with one particular person to be around them, not to necessarily DO anything- he just wants to hang as its better than being alone. it's alright to ask Mill to come, just don't ask him to play.

[@ebenezerboateng5915]

1. DM and the players should have confronted him on this months earlier. 2. Mill should have confronted the DM and players about his "issues" with the game. 3. DM should have stopped the encounter and just straight up ask Mill, why? In the end, everyone was to awkward and scared to do anything; which I found funny, as the OP said in his edit that "this is a game about communication", yet only OP took the time to confront him on it before and after the encounter. Moral of the story: Communicate with one another, so that everyone (DM and players) are having fun.

[@DarthAxolotl]

What i dont get is that op said that the dm was also panicking with mills plan. Did he forgot hes the dm. They are litteraly more powerful than God.

[@ebenezerboateng5915]

@@DarthAxolotl I agree. Some many of theses stories have the same problem of a DM having the power to stop the encounter but they don't. Now I can understand to if your a fresh DM, but if you have a experience DMing then that part is on you as the DM.

[@yagamijubei28]

Another case of a spineless group that wont ask the proper questions or have the DM challenge the player.

[@ebenezerboateng5915]

@@yagamijubei28 I wouldn't use the word "spineless". Some people just can't handle confrontation for what ever reason. Yes, they should have done something, but I understand why they didn't. I'm not giving them an excuse, but I do understand that the situation wasn't easy for them.

[@yagamijubei28]

@@ebenezerboateng5915 pussilamious then? Because i see this trend at DnD tables were people are too introverted to voice challenges and problem players. Its like a relationship with someone that doesnt love you, they string you along and dont tell you.

[@oliviastevens9156]

Back in my Forum RP days, I actually dealt with a guy like Mill, who one day out of the blue decided to use his admin powers to ban almost everyone and hide all the threads in one section to try and nuke the board. Thankfully, the owner of the forum was contacted and we managed to get the threads back where they were with the help of an online archive, but when we asked the ex-admin about why he did it, he refused to answer. So, my theory is that Mill was just biding his time until he could destroy the game, and decided not to talk with anyone even after the fact to keep his reasonings to himself, and may be planning to do the same thing in Brush's game. Alternative theory: Mill had a thing for Brush, and was jealous of all the fun Brush was having with other people, and decided to derail the plot after purposefully declining interaction to try and get Brush to defend his actions or something. I don't really know.

[@kaylawoodbury2308]

You're confusing something, Brush was the DM, you need to rewatch the first 2 minutes...

[@oliviastevens9156]

@@kaylawoodbury2308 Ah, sorry, I was under the impression that the OP was DM and misheard.

[@williamharmon4039]

I sort of got the impression like he might possibly have some condition like autism that impaired his ability to communicate or really picture what was going on in the imaginations of everyone unless walked through it while stubbornly sticking to what was in his head without explaining what that was. I know I've been there before. Which still puts it all on his head for not trying to get over his issues or at least work on the things he has problems with so he can function in a social situation he chose to take part in. A disability like that isn't an excuse to be a problem or a nuisance. It's a reason to work even harder at understanding and practicing the social skills that don't come naturally. I'm actually autistic and have a bit of social anxiety at times and I'm trying to get into D&D as a way to practice and improve my communication and adaptation skills.

[@agencymenace1090]

It seems you're pinning the malicious intent of that forum user on a guy with either a lack of understanding of DNDs communications or an inability to understand social cues and stuff. Pretty pathetic

[@crowdemon_archives]

@@agencymenace1090 To be fair, the attempted party-suicide (with 1 mortality) seems pretty malicious in that specific instance.

[@garwinna1258]

Yea, to me this one story sounds kinda fishy. "By the time he'd finished I'd managed to climb up to the building" This part disturbs me a lot. 1. Unless this is text-based and the player told their action to the DM privately, there's no way Mill won't hear or see that back-backstabbing plan. 2. The monologue is definitely out-of-character, and all people on the table just... roll with it and continue the session? "All 4 of us(including Brush) kinda start freaking out" This part also made me question thing further. Either everyone is new players and/or inexperienced, or there's something that was hidden. I think we can rule out the 'new players', since at the start of the story, the writer told that Mill's the new one in this kind of session. Inexperienced, probably. But it's weird that everyone on the table managed to stick to the end of session (Mill included) with such outburst. And Mill didn't ragequit either! (or just wasn't included in the story, but it made less sense since they're still in contact normally)

[@OnionKnightRises]

This is months late, but from another comment, it seems reasonable that Mills wasn't trying to ragequit, he was trying to reset things to 0 so they could start a new campaign with new characters, thinking that maybe the campaign was the reason he wasn't having fun.

[@fabiovarra3698]

@@OnionKnightRises Still don't make sense, where he got all those bombs without at least the DM knowing? Even breaking the container and goining up the roof looked like it appened outside the DM knowledge by how OP narrated it.

[@Demicleas]

@@fabiovarra3698 like as implied it's likely brush and mills has some kind of close relation of some kind and it's possible either he gave him more loot or handed to him for free making the situation partly the DM's fault and it's most likely he just allowed mills to do what he wanted untill he threatened to blow everything up.

[@fabiovarra3698]

@@Demicleas even if that is true, both the party and DM reaction is quite unrealistic, like Op narrates it looks like they all roll with mills actions without never stopping the game, suddenly the problem player turns in boss fight and the valiant party rise to deaft it while the DM help them but without actually doing what he was supposed to do and stop the game. It all sounds like bullshit and too convinient to make the Op an "hero" .

[@yaoiboi60]

@@fabiovarra3698 it's not unrealistic for people to behave unreasonably.

[@Aaron24371]

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[@iamalbertwesker2]

And what if I do?

[@Aaron24371]

@@iamalbertwesker2 you will reject crab and embrace the true might of lobster

[@iamalbertwesker2]

@@Aaron24371 I mean lobsters are pretty badass...

[@goncalocarneiro3043]

This guy is like the embodiment of the "women never talk to you when there's relationship problems" stereotype, but on super steroids. At least that stereotype also includes the "men have reverse proficiency in insight" fro added effect, in this situation, it looked like everyone was aware and willing to listen.

[@Elemenopee9577]

This is the first time I've had a clear enough schedule to start watching a video literally 10 seconds after it was uploaded

[@jamiec01222]

I've had guys like this in games I use to play in. One time our edgy rogue stabbed a town guard while we were shopping. When we asked him why he did that he just shrugged. Our DM liked to punish us whenever possible so he never allowed us to retcon these things. I'm glad I learned better and don't play with these kinds of people anymore.

[@fabiovarra3698]

Your DM should have stop that, it's nonsense to punish the whole group beacuase a player want to be a dick.

[@kikiblair5132]

I feel like there's more details and the story would make more sense with them included.

[@AvengerAtIlipa]

One such being: where did those 216 bombs come from?

[@sussusamogus4714]

​@@AvengerAtIlipaand additionally, how did the actual **DM** not know this?

[@davidspring4003]

Here's how I translate what happens Mill: shows active disinterest in the game Everyone: yo, are you bored? How can we help Mill: I'm fine! Mill, later: HOW DARE YOU NOT INCLUDE ME IN THE PLOT! I'LL DESTROY EVERYTHING YOU'VE WORKED FOR BECAUSE OF IT!

[@zealousdoggo]

It's honestly really said because like he said that is some serious dramatic flair like just imagine if your otherwise boring or even underperforming boss of the session pulls out 1 megaton of high explosives and to have your party frantically figure out what to do in one turn before he blows the surrounding region to kingdom come, that's amazing!

[@crowdemon_archives]

This can make for an interesting encounter, yes. But in another campaign lol.

[@marker9196]

This story honestly feels a bit "and then everybody clapped" to me, so new player joins, is a problem right off the bat but despite everyone totally trying for months they just can't get through to him and rather than getting bored and leaving (even just leaving with a passive aggressive message calling everyone arseholes) he instead cooks up this dramatic plan to completely derail the campaign (that the DM does nothing to intervene against) that conveniently gives the OP and their friends a chance to show off how cool and quick thinking they are? I've had problem players try to cause disruptions at the table and in no instance did I just run with it and turn it into an encounter, that is the moment you stop the game, tell everyone to take a break or go home early (depending on whats convenient and how long things have been going on) and you have a serious talk with the problem player about whats going on and what can be done to solve things. Honestly, the main reason I'm not a huge fan of stories like this is that it gives players and DMs a bad impression that interpersonal conflict can and should be resolved at the table during a game, that if the party can defeat the problem player that the problem is all solved and everybody just goes their separate ways (like the player was literally just a boss fight for the rest of the party) when it just simply doesn't work that way in reality. TL;DR: I firmly believe this story is either fabricated or is missing a lot of details and context that likely wouldn't be particularly flattering to the party or DM.

[@gamesdisk]

Yeah man. Totally agree with you

[@andreainghilterra]

That must be it really, I knew something was off while listening to CritCrab.. It just feels so... made up I guess?

[@pandosham]

I mean a good chunk of these are

[@intergalactic92]

I always like how many of these stories have a problem player suddenly do something in game that might break everything and everyone just goes along with it, instead of pausing and asking what the hell they are playing at. And what is the DM panicking about? He's literally god. He can stop it whenever he likes.

[@JamesTaylor-oh1sd]

I totally agree there. Even our lord of crabs admitted he felt like something was off and he usually wouldn't. Fabrication for reddit karma is honestly just dumb

[@maximusprime6768]

Something seems...odd about op's story. They described Paladin as someone who struggled to grasp the rules, yet had somehow got 200+ bombs in a bag of holding? Unpopular opinion, bit I suspect op may be bullshitting. I would like to hear paladin's side of this.

[@xSaraxMxNeffx]

likely fully made up, which makes me sad that i actually know people like Mill

[@JamesTaylor-oh1sd]

I completely agree. If it wasn't entirely faked then most of it was. I think its kinda dumb to fake those stories for meaningless internet numbers. OP at least left some stuff out.

[@Michaeljack81sk]

What seems clear to me is that Brush enabled this. Mil had to tell Brush he was buying 216 bombs and what he was doing going up on the roof and smashing the container. Brush could have intervened at any time, shut this down and asked "Dude, wtf are you doing and why?"

[@michaelmorton5698]

This doofus becomes a level 1 anti-paladin just for trying to wipe out the party.

[@BlueTressym]

Mill was an arse. No matter what his problem actually was, everyone felt for him and tried to help but he refused to engage and then complained that he wasn't getting any fun. He also made zero effort and then complained in respect of effectiveness as well. He wouldn't talk to anyone and upset people. Worst though, he caused trouble to others with dickish behaviour for what? if he didn't enjoy the campaign, he could've talked about it. If he couldn't talk about it, he could've left. Nope, he decided to upset the rest of the table by being an arse and wrecking their fun and the game. Heck, I've left games because I realised I wasn't happy with either the campaign itself or the group, and I'm TERRIBLE at communicating but I never tried to wreck it. OP and table, you are NOT responsible for Mill's lack of fun. It's not your fault. You tried to help and they preferred to sulk and behave like a bratty child. For those mentioning mental health issues, maybe he does have them and maybe he doesn't but either way, they aren't a get out of jail free card any more than my laundry list of mental health issues and neurological differences are for me.

[@QuixoteBadger]

I get the feeling that there is more to this story than OP is getting at, or perhaps is even able to. Not to mention that a lot of what OP did say can't really convey the feelings of the others at the table outside of second hand. It's entirely possible that Mill felt pressured or even bullied by a less than welcoming group of way more experienced players. After all, besides being a little quiet, Mill didn't act like a that guy until the very end.

[@ad0xa]

I can also see a scenario where maybe Brush talked shit behind ppl's back or didn't confront Mill when they talked shit privately. Like. A bad enabling friendship. So from Mill's perspective maybe he had more support in his feelings? Like "Omg this group is so shit" and Brush not confronting this or agreeing with it making Mill think he's in the right. But alas we'll never know! Totally agree that there seems to be some more to this story tho.

[@QuixoteBadger]

@@ad0xa This does vaguely remind me of a certain "Sith Janitor" scenario where a player character wasn't vibing well with the rest of the party. So the DM got together with the player to create an off-the-table sub plot. Maybe this was a poorly executed attempt at something of that sort.

[@MogofWar]

I'm getting a feeling that there's more to the story that OP didn't' pick up on.

[@professorsponge1554]

my reaction to this is: "That's it?" Really? The guy is bored, he doesn't react, he doesn't accept help, he decides to nuke the campaign for 'revenge for not being included', and he just leaves. No freakout, no jabs, no nothing? This isn't normal human behavior. I gotta conclude this is either a badly written story that didn't happen, or this person joined just to pull a stunt like this.

[@Jaimyoutubing]

This dude is one hundred percent just an edgy "sad" boi trademark. I've met dozens of similar people in various chatrooms and RP groups all over the internet and in games. They act all quiet and depressed and are generally only interested in one person in a group, but as shown in this video, often tend to not want to interact or participate in ANYTHING so long as the whole group is there, no matter what anyone does. However, as also kind of shown in the group, this tends to be more of a cover than anything. It's not uncommon for them to snap and suddenly start spouting bullshit about how everyone ignores them, or doesn't like to interact with them, and they never get to do anything, while in some way verbally or RP wise attacking the rest of the group. And let me tell you, ITS NOT A JOKE to them. It's not "dramatic flair." This is honestly how they feel, and it's their way of getting comeuppance on those who "hurt" them. It's sad and pathetic because almost without fail, every single of these people I've met has had the others around them try to get them to open up, and to "help" them, but they literally don't want it. They want attention, but only from the people they like and they generally have no desire to do anything to try and get that attention other than act oh so melancholic.

[@thecomfyshirt]

It’s like, sometimes idk why I subject myself to these videos. But they aren’t ALWAYS extremely dark. Sometimes it’s just interesting or funny stories of how human relationships can be difficult and strange. But ultimately I think I come here for the calming ocean waves and the adorable crab🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀

[@RimeyCH]

As soon as I heard "on the roof" I half expected him to start yelling "my Chevy Shook a Shit!" XD

[@VampireNewl]

I've kind of seen players like that, you try and get them involved but at every point they refuse so naturally you stop trying. Then they get annoyed that you've stopped trying (and they're not trying to get into the game) so they act like you're excluding them rather than the fact that they're the one deciding to not get involved.

[@TomWilliams69]

I feel like this is one of those stories that would be very different from any other players perspective.

[@halodude7167]

"Paladins can be some of the dumbest characters in dnd" Yeah dude, 100%. My first campaign ended with me playing a Paladin and accidentally extinguished the sun due to some poor writing and equally poor decision making. Had a blast regardless and the DM was cool about it, he was expecting us to TPK not end the world so we all had a good laugh at that.

[@halodude7167]

@Mister Smith It was, and after watching a few of these videos, I'm certain our DM just let all our dumb shit happen for that reason

[@useddentalfloss2484]

The "Nah" before leaving made me immediately think: Troll. Some type of troll on the internet, who gets their kicks by ruining things other people enjoy. And before you think it's too elaborate? There have been far more elaborate trolls before involving other things less important to people than D&D.

[@thestonepilot8242]

Feel asleep 4 hours ago to a CritCrab binge...watching up to a fresh video THE CRUSTATION KING PROVIDES

[@Lynxtek]

Ok but the flowers that resurrect people as a concept is so cool

[@Zeeke01]

Glad to see more Crab content!

[@lilharm]

“how could you not compensate for my lack of roleplay?”

[@alisontibbens2155]

This paladope never included HIMSELF in the story. What did he expect the others to do?

[@solarchos8821]

Ohhhhh, I've certainly heard the stereotype that "All Lawful Good are imbeciles". As for Mill, it sounds like he's got some moderately bad undiagnosed psychological issues. His inability to understand what communication is and the importance of it suggests that he MIGHT have Asberger's or some other issue that makes interpersonal relations difficult. However, the rest of the gaming group was CORRECT to distance themselves from him a little. Unless everyone else in the gaming group was a certified psychologist/therapist to whom Mill was under their care, it was NOT their responsibility to "put up with" or "be compassionate" towards his actions and attitude. Mill may not be able to help the way he acted, but it was NOT APPROPRIATE for him to inflict it upon everyone else.

[@Mediocresinger]

Absolutely. Having issues can't be used as an excuse to be a dick to others when where are people who have the same issue but more severe and yet doesn't take it out on those around them. This isn't just some neurotypical idiot talking down to people with mental health issues either, I have issues coming out of the wazoo, yet still endeavour to treat others with kindness and, if my head is playing up, suppressing any relevent urges by realising it is my problem, not theirs and they did nothing to deserve whatever it is I feel like doing to them. We all owe it to one another to be kind and respectful unless something is done to warrant otherwise. Nobody seems to have told Mill.

[@elgringofeo9348]

This guy would get chewed out in Venezuela, if you dont social skills people at best think you're wierd and at worst a psycho, but you're still getting bullied ...

[@Phoenixqueen77]

This reminds me of a friend I had, he's autistic and he would VERY OFTEN leave servers or chats if any sort of altercation, especially involving him, broke out. He never really tried to fix anything until way after the fact, and wouldn't talk to anyone that wanted to help. Several times, I had him yell at or unfriend me temporarily just to keep me from trying to help. Eventually, I told him that it was fine to take a step back from things when he was angry or upset, but he wasn't allowed to take everything out on me when I hadn't done anything to him. The reason our friendship ended, though, was because he went after someone for a beyond stupid reason, I defended the guy, and he later admitted that the big argument was his fault, but refused to apologize for it. :P

[@chimerakait]

This is surprisingly great advice. Your right, it's not healthy to deal with people who need help and refuse to get it. I wish I knew this advice earlier and walked away from my own nightmare group before it got as bad as it did. They began reinforcing the bad behavior of the 3 problem people and trying to help them, and hand wave away or comply when they were being dicks. yet none were professionals. It took a full on narcissist to tear through the group for me to see everyone's true colors. The manipulation was so bad that I got a bit of psychological trauma from being in that friend group daily. So I made the decision to leave. Now I'm feeling alot better. I'm probably 'on the spectrum' myself, but this event was my 1st real eye-opener that I need to be careful around strangers, and maybe work on my own attitude too. But God damn... do some people have issues.

[@Kelekona]

There's weird people I've encountered in games where they want really specific type of attention/attention from certain people. A player in a LARP mentioned his character is shy, is supposed to be acted upon (????) etc. So I took that to mean, "OK, I'll interact with him first." and him in character blew me off at pretty much Hello. Wasn't playing an edgelord character either, I was just sort of ignored. So then the player is complaining later about noone talking to him, not getting any spotlight/attention then I brought up that I had tried repeatedly (I did attempt more than once) and he clearly wasn't interested. He then sort of changed the subject. There's really not much you can do with a player like this because they expect people to just spotlight them without any effort on their part, will snub people despite wanting attention, then complain about not getting to do anything. It's a weird trait that people who's entire personality is passive aggression. I would honestly just not invite the person, explain how you made attempts, made people feel bad about them not having fun. Just don't include them.

[@thegorillasnake]

I once played a homebrew "village idiot" class whose entire arc was about making rash decisions. One of the first things he did was transform into a wight (he was a changeling) during a wight incursion, which nearly got him killed by the town guard. One of the last things he did before the campaign fell apart was learn to fly by flapping his arms just because he thought it would work. I miss Merv.

[@shyfrog3731]

"I'm not sure what to learn from this," is the perfect summary for this video.

[@jiveequation1865]

This was hilarious nice save at the end op

[@jasondickerson884]

Crit crab 29 minutes after drop. Nice. Always love your stories.

[@RayAkuma]

That guy seriously reminds me of a person i know irl. He doesn't even play dnd but the lack of communication just feels so similar xD

[@lbobby6116]

Every fucking time, it's always the paladin, goddamnit

[@larmoth401]

I have a player who never understands their own abilities, they love D&D and talk about playing it all the time, but in all the times they have been playing I've never once seen them use any of their subclass abilities, never once. He was was a Berserker Barbarian who never Frenzied, an Archfey Warlock who never used Fey Presence or Misty Escape despite constantly being in situations where it would have saved him big time and despite being pact of the Chain he never used his Familiar to do anything and so many other things, he's never once used his subclass abilities on any character and even worse is that while forgetting what abilities he does have, he's constantly trying to use abilities he doesn't have. Like when he wanted to use the Sending spell as a Warlock, I explained that if he wanted that spell as an Archfey Warlock, he'd need to go Pact of the Tome and take an Invocation to get Ritual Spells or take a feat to get Ritual spells since it wasn't on his spell list, he didn't do either of those things and then many sessions later, he tells me that he wants to use Sending, a spell which he doesn't have and can't get, I explained this and he said "No, I can still cast it as a ritual" which confused me since he hadn't taken Pact of the Tome, Book of Ancient Secrets or Ritual Caster, so I explained it again that he couldn't cast ritual spells since Warlock doesn't have Ritual casting as base, he debated it a bit and asked if he could pay someone to teach him how to cast Sending as a ritual and I once again explained why he couldn't, that was the end of that, until next session when he had the exact same idea to cast Sending and we had the exact same conversation where I had to explain why he couldn't, then it happened the next week and the next, I had to explain the same thing 4 sessions in a row and it got to the point where I told him if he brought up Sending one more time I'd kick him.

[@elgringofeo9348]

Yeah that guy should just play baldurs gate and pathfinder on pc, dont see why it's so hard for people to atleast try, I only played a session of wrath and glory it was slow but fun being taught, unfortunately the dm had to drop me since my schedules didnt alient with the group, nice guys too, I plan on getting into another group and keep learning, baldurs gate and pathfinder games, help give perspective on how rules work, so far the warlock seems to be my fav

[@larmoth401]

@@elgringofeo9348 The real scary thing is this guy is also a DM for another group, so I hate to see how that works since he doesn't understand any of the mechanics.

[@elgringofeo9348]

@@larmoth401 ugh you're right I didnt even think of that, 1 thing I noticed too is that, TTRPGs are social games, made for a group that is not social so ...

[@ulvemann43]

I know the sort of person Mill is. This is a person who wants one thing: attention, and to be oh so important and precious, so above caring about the others around them. They didn't have fun because everyone didn't spend every moment in the game fawning over their character, pulling them through and into whatever they were doing without Mill needing to do anything. The constant "ehhhhh" responses seal the deal. It is a person who plays hard to catch, who is only in it for the attention they get from those responses and other behavior, and who cannot ever, ever put more effort into anything because in their eyes, other people work for them, and they shouldn't need to lift a finger.

[@arellajardin8188]

Party sabotage can make for a great story, if done right. I recall an old content creator, Spoony, who told the story of how one party member stole a wish to screw over the everyone. They needed the wish to break a curse, but the guy quickly shouted “I wish for a Deck of Many Things!” As the party chased him down to kill him, he kept pulling good cards and escaped, only to get greedy and had his soul sent to the void.

[@CareerKnight]

It was less greedy and more he didn't know how many good cards the deck could have. He was still insanely luck that every card was good until the very last card which happened to be the very worst. As Spoony said, if he had gone one number lower at the start he would have gotten away with it.

[@arellajardin8188]

@@CareerKnight I was oversimplifying for the sake of brevity. Point was, he took the opportunity to screw the party, took it, and created a good story out of it. Also, neat. Someone else remembers Spoony. I miss his reviews and Counter Monkey videos. I mean, they’re still there, just that he doesn’t make that kind of content anymore.

[@CareerKnight]

@@arellajardin8188 Yea its a shame that he imploded. The also use to be a lot of great d&d and other pen & paper stories on his site in the comments for the various counter monkey videos.

[@enwerd7050]

Damn he seems like the type of dude that acts shitty in a relationship when he's done, hoping the other person will end it...

[@TBG1]

I'm late but glad I could make it to watch this before heading to sleep

[@Lillyluri]

This was really a good and satisfying story. I hope they have luck flower picking in the times to come.

[@phantomb108]

Love the Heathers reference in the thumbnail!

[@cinderblaze2958]

Ive been binge watching these videos and they are so entertaining! Dnd sounds interesting and I'd like to play but I have absolute no idea how to play, sounds cool tho!

[@roiroije6326]

It's kind of a shame that Mill had such poor communication skills because otherwise his character's betrayal could have made for a genuinely dramatic moment and a gateway for him to really get involved with roleplaying.

[@Hyde_Hill]

Didn't have much to do with him being a Paladin. As that normally involves taking either the oath or alignement too seriously. This seems more like a "look at me I'm flying pig" moment from someone who wasn't invested/ was not creative enough for the more "normal" DnD stuff.

[@CareerKnight]

Yea he could have been any class, it was basically irrelevant. Usually when people complain about Paladins its because they are being played Lawful Stupid or Lawful Dickish.

[@br1531]

I’ve never played a game of dnd but I heavily enjoy these videos

[@WobblesandBean]

Sounds like the DM was just as much a conkwocket as Mill.

[@INFIRN0]

I completely understand mill's actions. I was the same way with a group of guys i tried playing with, however I didn't act like the "quiet not having fun guy" for no reason. There's a lot of things that factor into a noobs actions when trying dnd, like trying to understand the game, characters, and the people you play with. There's obviously more but those were the main ones for me. Anyway, the first couple sessions were....ok at best and often times I felt like I was getting dragged around like a dog on a short and tight leash. More often than not, the veteran players would get so into rp that I just found myself listening and by the time they were done, everything had been done already since they were in the spotlight and so when I felt like i could finally say something, there was nothing to say anyway which resulted in me getting the "you need to talk and participate more" speech. And so i tried getting more involved but everytime i tried, i would get shut down immediately because of some reason or another and after awhile it didn't feel like a party of adventurers but rather a party plus a tag along side character. it never changed after even after i tried, like mill, to say im not having fun. So that's where i think the " i really want to have fun but don't want to say anything" comes from because there's almost no point in saying anything anyway because it has already been resolved, or is shut down a lot. I think if theres a noob, obviously dont make him a chosen one or anything but just be a little more cautious about the newness to the game. So i don't think mill is a weirdo or anything for doing what he did.

[@RezzStop]

And that is why you're a "problem player".

[@Toiletdeer]

So what youre saying here is:" Hey, I had a bad experience as a dnd noob and I wouldn't seriously sit people (who didn't know they weren't including me because i didnt telll them) down to tell them my feelings and what they should or shouldn't do while not having fun and not being very clear or just getting shutdown which means i was playing with assholes, but still keeping on playing for some reason, so it's ok to just ignore everyone when they're asking what you want or need, not even give a full sentence as an answer to any question and then have a childish temper tanrum in an attempt to say "if I can't have fun noone can" ????????? everybody has a responsibility to communicate and the responsibility for their own fun. If you need help, are not enjoying yourself or need something to change and then dont (quickly) tell people or tell people, have them not do anything/shut you down and continuing as before, then you shouldn't be playing with that group instead of whining about how they're not doing anything for you. In the end the other people aren't responsible for your fun and even though dnd is an attempt to work together to have fun only you are responsible in the end. Lashing out after not trying to communicate like Mill is absolutely pathetic no matter if youre on the spectrum, suffer from mental illness or whatever the fuck kindof excuse you have. I'm sorry you had a bad time, but you are responsible for keeping on going there after nothing keeps happening to help you.This kindof behavior is absolutely disgraceful to yourself, which is the person you obviously should be choosing for

[@JoshuaFriedman_]

DM absolutely needs to bring him back as an npc antagonist. Genius villain origin

[@angelyusuki]

I wanna talk about how Jason Dean is used in the Thumbnail with explosives being involved in this topic and that makes me smile

[@holystars]

beginning sounds like something i would do lol seem embassing to acting out

[@TrackerRoo]

Anyone else feel like Mills is the hat guy villain from Meet the Robinsons? The whole "you never included me" thing seems like that bit in the movie where he was all "they hated me" after cutting to the kid asking if he wanted to hang out later.

[@shadowwolf12351]

I'm listening to this right before my campaign lol talk about perfect timing

[@lockwoan01]

To be fair, I have played as a silent paladin sort - Yuan-Ti Pureblood Paladin of Vengeance with Criminal Background (basically, due to a war between Giants and Dragons ending in favor of Giantsclear tank, , with society levels being sorted Giant Style, reptilian sorts are one social level lower than those of the same size). Basically, the initial party comprised of a water genasi sorcerer, a fire genasi wizard, and a dex-based aarakocra cleric (who was the pet-slave of the wizard). Since the group needed a clear tank sort, I decided to play as a Paladin, and my mother played as a Feral Tiefling Hunter Ranger, with a Folk Hero background, to act as a back-up tank, and to do distant damage. Essentially, we were hired muscle, more or less in it for the money - probably would have altered motives as need be if there was more to the job than just helping to retrieve artifacts for the squishier spellcasters. Then we picked up a Mountain Dwarf Druid. Still, there was an interesting RP moment when my Yuan-Ti paladin got between the cleric and a strange woman, who was a little too into the bird's feathers. Turns out, she, and her sister, were succubus, and that was an interesting fight as we were low on, or out of, spell slots (and the sorcerer and ranger weren't at the fight). Lead to my guy getting knocked out thrice, only for the cleric to keep reviving him - it was a close one.

[@JBRewind]

I had a very similar thing happen in a different TTRPG system. It was in a sci-fi setting, with my sister GMing. This guy was playing this sort of slime alien, and the plot hook both him joining our crew (my character was the captain) and to get the plot rolling was that he worked for an organization that had gotten its hand on a very advanced small ship (basically, normally ships this small don't have FTL, but this one not only did, but it was on par with the military's top line warships). So, this slime guy (the character was named Jubjub and wore a "perpetually tipped fedora" according to his character sheet, I shit you not) brings us the ship for covert transportation, not wanting to attract attention by flying it to where he needs to sell it. Now, Jubjub comes out of the ship into our hangar/cargo bay armed with a plasma pistol, which is a VERY dangerous weapon. Over the intercom, I ask him to disarm before we come down to greet him, but he refuses. Now, I have no desire to start an in-character spat. I'm trying to take the plot hook and have him join the crew, but in-character my pirate captain has no reason to just suddenly trust this heavily armed stranger. I give him two more chances to disarm before I go down there. He continues to refuse. Fine, I guess this will get dragged out. I grab a stun pistol and meet him in the hangar. I don't wait for him to make a move. I don't introduce myself. I open fire immediately and stun him, leaving his gelatinous form as a puddle. I proceed to take his plasma pistol, scan his ship (as my character is a scientist and wants to learn what he can about it), then leave the hangar, leaving him there before he can wake up and locking the doors. Big mistake. Once Jubjub wakes up I give him YET ANOTHER chance to just calm down and talk with us, but he's having none of it. He retreats back into the advanced ship and starts to private message my sister (we were doing this over Discord). While he does this, our ship is stopped by a military patrol ship that I believe had intel on the ship and was trying to secure it for themselves to reverse engineer it. Now it's revealed why Jubjub ran back into his ship. He activated self-destruct. We have a few minutes to try to shut it down. Myself and our crew's doctor rush down to the hangar and try everything we can to get the ship's door open, but fail our rolls to do so. We have a minute left, and I know it's a lost cause. The doctor and I book it to the elevator and I order our engineer, over the comms, to close EVERY door on our ship. The little ship explodes, taking nearly half my ship with it, and we're left dead in space, flying half a ship, with a military ship in front of us that just saw half out ship explode. This was the 2nd session of the campaign... We end up making a deal with the military ship to haul us back to civilization in exchange for the results of the scans I THANKFULLY ran on the ship earlier. Jubjub was now dead and we kicked the player out of the game for being such an idiot. The campaign unfortunately ended there as my sister got a new job and couldn't make the time, though I am happy to say, 3 years later, I started up a new one set in the same setting, with new characters, though my PC from the old game is now an NPC (don't worry, not an OP DMPC, just a regular NPC that works for a guy that gives them jobs) and we're going strong for a year now and everyone loves the campaign. 2 of the original players, one of which is playing his old character (the doctor), and 2 brand new players. My sister is unfortunately too busy now to join us, hence why I'm GMing it now. We still make jokes about Jubjub to this day. I also have another story of the same character being an idiot in D&D. Another day, maybe.

[@kainslegacy78618]

He could have some sort of a bipolar disorder. Seeing as how he seems to pass in a very chaotic succession between an uninterested apathetic behaviour to that of an intensely dramatic persona that suddenly feels the weight of his own other persona's lack of interest as a attack from others. (Or, he's the kind of person that expects others to be far more forceful in their caring attempts and is seeing the people in question not doing so as them "failing" him somehow.)

[@matthiasb5624]

3 Crab videos in a week? Is that a holiday? *Happy crab noises*

[@ZorotheGallade]

"I told him this is a game built on communication. He just went 'nah' and left the call"

[@richardduska1558]

7:11 OR OP might not give the whole story here. Remember. Inconsistant stories can mean that OP lies.

[@avedementia7273]

The final session sounded like it would have been a super fun to play through. Also I was already guessing as soon as they talked about mcguffin flowers that at some point he would try to eat it.....then he did! I feel like Nostradamus =)

[@ronaldfinkelstein6335]

I think I saw something like that in an animated Justice League show. Batman vs. Owlman, fighting over a multiverse destroying bomb.

[@Mitsurugi2424]

2:54 in...shoulda just stopped right there and said "Alright, I understand. Thanks for playing"

[@travisreed8606]

I had a friend like that. He asked me to join a game his friend was running. I joined up and my friend (wizard) just tagged a long with my character. When asked what he was going to do, he'd point to me and say i'm following him. It was diffcult just because he would hardly interect or do anything different except when messing with another player (the group punching bag)

[@thehillisalive]

There was a Wizard in a campaign I'm in named Mill (who also died horribly, by coincidence) so I did a double take there for a second

[@darklord884]

I like the idea of teleporting yourself and the douchebag to the astral plane, flipping them the bird and then teleporting back as he explodes alone like an idiot.

[@TheRealCodeBlack]

Anyone else reminded of that episode of Hey Arnold, where Curly barricades himself in a classroom with an arsenal of dodgeballs?

[@lordazrimel71]

This is directed to the crab lord himself and gotta say after being subbed for I think only a few months love your content and would you ever think of reading some KZbin horror comment stories or even do a twitch stream of you and some subs running a campaign also all hail crab

[@kylebrown1975]

That is literally the funniest way someone can betray the party I imagine him just like quick gobbling it down screaming in game "THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR IGNORING ME THE GREAT AND POWERFUL PALADIN" as he starts coughing from damn near swallowing the plant whole and everyone in game is like "what the actual shit just happened" completely out of left field this is the pinnical of griefing in that scenario idk if I could even be mad

[@crudestprism3124]

Binging videos from this channel makes me regret not giving the table top gaming club in high school a try. This made me invested with D&D without even knowing anything about it aside from what I learn here. Hopefully I gain the confidence to give it a try-

[@justin2308]

Mils would make the perfect actor for a villain, and I mean that unironically.

[@SoHappyToSeeYou]

"This bag of holding contains over 200 bombs!" *shoots/stabs/burns bag of holding scattering the contents in the astral plane* "Now what?"

[@RANDOMhandleDL]

"Nah" as the last word you ever hear from someone is hilarious

[@yeoldebookshoppe4345]

>eats important artifact >pulls out nuke >gets sent to void >blows up >leaves Chad

[@meghanbaker1801]

I'm kind of curious why a paladin trying to blow up a town still has any of their class features during this dramatic moment. The armor suddenly restricts your movement instead of protecting it, the aura is gone, and you feel a black wind where your divine connection was...

[@Mokiefraggle]

Unless he was a Paladin in some sort of class-specific magic armor, then nothing would likely happen in that regard. No matter the enchantment, it doesn't just fail if their class powers fail, because it's not attached to their class. And AC is determined by one's armor (and shield) plus Constitution mod, so his absurd AC wouldn't have been changed by falling as a Paladin, either. Also, given that Mill doesn't use any of his Paladin abilities except Lay On Hands, it likely wouldn't matter to him. Also, while there's a small sidebar note in the PHB for 5e about Paladins breaking their oaths, it's _not_ part of the actual class mechanics from the look of things. It appears to be more of a "you could do this flavorful thing, if the circumstances happen," than a mechanic or a rule. There is not a 3.5e-style "a Paladin who does something deemed naughty will have their powers stripped and their alignment forcibly changed" rule about fallen Paladins. Plus, given the way Mill didn't really use any of his Paladin abilities, I doubt it would've hurt him much to take his class abilities, nor would the roleplay implications be of any sort of importance.

[@zshimada]

It's really a shame, that would have been an amazing plot twist if it were planned. Honestly, this sounds like a guy who wants it to be all about him, but put none of the effort into it. He wants to sit back on a gilded throne while all sing his praises and that would have appeased him. He's probably played too many power fantasies like Halo or Skyrim.

[@maccychee3858]

In one campaign, our Loxodon palidin decided to piss all over the general store after realizing that the dwarf running it wasn't a blacksmith That was the first session

[@Pokeater]

0:51 Sorry Jimbo, looks like you're heading to the shadow realm

[@screechingtoad2683]

On the advertisment: The shadow realm? Do i have to break out my old Yu-gi-oh deck to play?

[@artemishallihan8973]

My DM sense wanted to turn Mill's character into a Litch and make him a new NPC villain since he swallowed a ressurecting flower below blowing himself up.

[@HAOSxy]

The title remimded me of our paladin that blown himself up to defeat a bunch of zombies with dynamite...it was cool, but paying for diamonds is not.