Pale Saints Documentary

[@c11p]

Great job. Don't sleep on Spoonfed Hybrid, Ian's first project after PS with Chris Trout. It's blissful in a different way.

[@mheberling5939]

The Comforts of Madness is such a great record.

[@ofiroman123]

Excellent band and such a nostalgic for me and my friends. I love your channel and I think that Catherine Wheel deserves a documentary.

[@StainedGlassStories]

Thank you so much oneoff! I would love to make a documentary about Catherine's Wheel at some point :)

[@christiansirnam6286]

... shouldn't it be my friends and eye ... ???

[@adamscenna]

I would love to see a Catherine Wheel documentary. Probably my favorite band of that era.

[@michealboyes8772]

@@adamscenna Catherine Wheel documentary too. Ferment and Chrome and...

[@Flibbybibby]

Fine Friend is imo one of the great Shoegazing songs. It always graces my Shoegaze comps.

[@mansonschild8910]

RIP Graeme Naysmith

[@peternagy-im4be]

???

[@mynameisderekanthony]

I saw these guys supporting pixies in 1990. Very unusually, they had no pauses between songs. One member would be starting the next tune while the others were finishing the last one. I was very intrigued. First 2 albums were great. Half life remembered ep was stunning. Good times.

[@jmlucas100]

Hello, I'm french sorry for my english. Thank you for your documentary. I was in love with Pale Saints. They followed me all my youth. Now I'm old but they are still a part my life.

[@StainedGlassStories]

Hello jeanmarc, you are very welcome for the documentary! It's great to see someone who has been a fan of them throughout their history. What an underrated group! Greetings from Minnesota

[@devoarepunk]

One of the greatest bands of all time

[@Uly_Sandoval_303]

Exactly!!!

[@davidtollefson8411]

I love this band! I have a younger friend in China who loves Pale Saints and she is going to interview Ian Masters soon. Her name is Stella and her channel Stella’s Encounters is fantastic.

[@krisirizarry]

Pale Saints are one of my favorite bands of all time! (I had the pleasure of seeing them live in 1992 with Ride)…Thanks for this documentary!!

[@seanthomas2906]

Fine friend. Lovely tune. Slow buildings lovely album

[@Flibbybibby]

Boo Radleys Shoegazing output is so painfully overlooked! Just listen to Finest Kiss or Memory Babe and it is frankly undeniable how stellar they were. Their LP Everythings Alright Forever stands alongside Just For A Day and Loveless in my not so humble opinion.

[@busterabcat]

Thanks to the Boo Radleys co-headlining on a tour with Pale Saints in 1992 (simply because both bands shared the same manager at the time) when In Ribbons was released, I became a huge fan of the Boos as well and purchased their brilliant debut Creation album 'Everything's Alright Forever' at the same time as Pale Saints' 'In Ribbons' as BOTH LPs came with a free 7" single too - so the paths of both bands aligned here...but then we all know that Boos went on to much bigger greater things (the magnificent Giant Steps, then success with Wake Up!) whilst Pale Saints sadly started to fade from view..... Boos have recently reformed without Martin Carr, but even though that was a huge surprise, I can't see PS ever doing the same with Ian Masters.

[@michaelcameron4337]

I bought everything’s alright forever for a dollar back in 97 not having heard it before, and was shocked it was a perfect album. I only knew a couple of singles, and their cover of there she goes. But this is one of the best albums ever recorded.

[@peternagy-im4be]

Boo Radleys came back? ​@@busterabcat

[@plisistiosaenaos9038]

well.. wake up boo destroyed every reason to remeber this band, but!! “at the sound of speed” is a gorgeous song of them and actually the only one that i like. revolver , adorable fan here

[@Flibbybibby]

@@plisistiosaenaos9038 Lol what? Nah, WUB certainly did nothing to diminish the greatness of Everything’s Alright Forever! Every time I listen to Memory Babe, Firesky or really anything off that album I’m reminded how great that band is.

[@SlamDunkster1]

Great video. Thanks for putting this together. I remember reading NME on the train on the way back from college and they referred to Ian's vocal style as Angelic. Their first album is still on of all time faves. I loved 4ad, saw Lush play with The Cure and went to Cocteau Twins final gig. Sadly never saw Pale Saints. D

[@StainedGlassStories]

You're very welcome SlamDunkster1! As a child of the 90s I never got to see Pale Saints love either. I could only imagine how incredible of a show it would have been to see The Cure, Lush, and Cocteau Twins live.

[@Flibbybibby]

I bought it the day it came out! I was already a huge fan of Comforts of Madness and Mrs. Dolphin.

[@slowuncle]

Wonderful (missing only a name-check for Spoonfed Hybrid)!

[@busterabcat]

Spoonfed Hybrid indeed - loved that first 1993 album. Boys In Zinc is the ultimate celestial melody and so utterly gorgeous and dreamy and otherworldly it brings tears to the eyes..... They did a second (almost forgotten) second one called Hibernation Shock in 1995 then stopped as Ian Master's restlessly creative and defiantly non-conformist spirit meant he was involved in starting a further 20 or so different projects from his new base in Japan.....some of which I mentioned in my post above!

[@slowuncle]

@@busterabcat Would love to hear Hibernation Shock some day

[@ShiningHourPop]

Great video! A Thousand Stars Burst Open was also recorded with a brass band backing. I think I have that version on a 7” single somewhere!

[@benjaminriepe1912]

Mad love for Pale Saints, great songs for any occasion. Fine friend is (and was) the perfect break-up recovery song. A thousand stars burst open is a perfect beginning or end to a day/week/year. Thanks a million for this Stained Glass Stories. I appreciate loads of favorite tracks being highlighted. Cheers.

[@StainedGlassStories]

I totally agree Benjamin! It's too bad that their third album went so unnoticed, because tracks like Fine Friend are pretty good! Love A Thousand Star Burst Open. You're very welcome for the video!

[@dougslawin4725]

Thanks for making this detailed video. It answered many questions I have always had about some records I love.

[@StainedGlassStories]

I'm very glad to hear that Doug! You're very welcome.

[@fadedSF]

nice doc, it was interesting that you went into detail about every release and demo they put out... except for the Throwing Back the Apple EP, notably, that EP had their rad cover of Blue Flower. they had covered the previous version of Mazzy Star - Opal- earlier on, and were obviously fans. they probably didn't know Blue Flower wasn't a M.S. original when they covered it, as their cover is not a version of the original song, but a cover in the style of Mazzy Star... although with more dynamics and vocals. Blue Flower was included on the US version of In Ribbons, as it was a popular "single" of theirs here. i was gonna mention that it was their top played video on MTVs 120 Minutes- but you used clips from the video, so you've obviously seen it. ;-)

[@israelvaldez26]

I don't know how this band totally escaped my attention, but I'm glad that I finally discovered them. Besides owning their CD'S I didn't know too much about them and I'm glad that you made this video about them.

[@MrEdrazo]

Just found your channel and thanks for the videos about the shoegaze scene. I'd like to see another ones about Chapterhouse, Boo Radleys, Curve and Moose.

[@erickrause381]

played my in ribbons cassette tape over and over in the 90's.. around this time, The Darling Buds had an album out that was very good.. Lush Gala and Spooky albums, were also in my rotation with Catherine Wheel-Ferment, Ride- Nowhere, The Sundays, Belly, Neds Atomic Dustbin., Charlatans. Superchunk, there was so much going on musically..

[@labibahbalogun]

in ribbons 🎀 💕

[@amassing]

Great video, really made me want to immediately go back and listen to them again. Worth adding that Fell From The Sun is a cover from a band called Opal some of whom went on to form Mazzy Star. Also there is another cover version on the Throwing Back The Apple single called Blue Flower which Mazzy Star also covered on She Hangs Brightly.

[@StainedGlassStories]

Thank you Penfold73! I wanted to do the same after researching their music. Very interesting that Fell From the Sun is a cover. I didn't realize that Pale Saints had all these roots that could be traced to Mazzy Star!

[@CmprDohn]

Good call on "Blue Flower" which was originally written by Peter Blegvad and Anthony John Moore from the Band "Slap Happy"

[@lesechdaniel8964]

my favourite bands of all time !! thanks a lot for this stories ....

[@ivangeldbojemeda]

Thank you for this video! I didn’t know that that’s Ian Masters in the new video of Sight Of You!?! Please cover Chapterhouse😎

[@njb1126]

1:06 I’m reminded of the cover of “blind” by the sundays

[@silversonik1064]

Thanks very much for your video!! I just loved it!! I'm big fan of MBV and Pale Saints were part of these dream years I was going throw... :)

[@rareshoegaze]

Great documentary, thanks.

[@chrisknowlton9460]

Please do a doc on The Chameleons, one of the UKs finest, with a real cult following that's ongoing.

[@johnpenner5182]

love love love the pale saints - thxu for making this! ✨🖤 🙏

[@StainedGlassStories]

They are so good! You're very welcome John, I'm glad you enjoyed the video ☺️💙✨️

[@thechroniccinephile]

Really love their poppier material like a thousand stars burst, kinky love, sight of you when they really lean into the more ride type of shoe gaze. Don’t like when they go more minor key or dissonant

[@GazeMeShoes]

well done! such a brilliant band. I've uploaded some great live sets of theirs on my channel through the years, including a rare early gig from 1988.

[@StainedGlassStories]

Thank you GazeMeShoes! (Great name, by the way). I'll take a look at your channel.

[@datsourasslemon4184]

my fav channel

[@StainedGlassStories]

Thank you so much 💙

[@rusted01]

Another great one! Pale Saints are one of the Shoegaze bands I haven't dove into much and this convinced me I need to remedy that :D I'd love to see you do videos on Kitchens Of Distinction and A.R. Kane, two early Shoegaze innovators who don't get nearly enough love and recognition.

[@StainedGlassStories]

Thank you Rusted 😁! It means a lot to hear you enjoyed the video and I'm glad I sparked your interest in diving into their music. I will definitely look into A. R. Kane and Kitchens of Distinction and give them a listen as well. Maybe I could make a video about them!

[@amassing]

Kitchens of Distinction are definitely a must listen from this era.

[@chrisknowlton9460]

KOD were awesome. I have their box set which includes lots of extra material. It's amazing they were only a three piece band.

[@maartenstevens9848]

Really interesting doc's. Helps me pick-up where I left the band. Some other docs I would really love to see : 1. Chapterhouse 2. Boo Radleys 3. Catherine Wheel 4. The Telescopes 5. Medicine 6.Swirlies 7.SpireaX (shorty)

[@stickmationslol4026]

Nice! You actually did Pale Saints for your next vid👍🏽 I wonder which band comes after this..

[@StainedGlassStories]

That's right! I really value the input of my audience 😊

[@stickmationslol4026]

@@StainedGlassStories Love that man. Would you consider Cocteau Twins as shoegaze-ish? Maybe you could do a documentary on them.

[@StainedGlassStories]

@@stickmationslol4026 Love Cocteau Twins. I think I would classify most of their work as dream pop, but they did play a major role in contributing to the shoegaze sound. They are on my list of planned videos, so I'll definitely make a documentary about them at some point :)

[@tolstoyisgod]

Another great video! I saw Pale Saints open for Ride on that short tour in 1992 you mentioned. I was a fan of both, though massively into Ride at the time. (Ride were touring for Going Blank Again). Funny you mention that Ian left the band over frustration with touring. My memory of that show is that Ian became annoyed for some reason and Pale Saints ended their set early (I think I know this because I was up against the stage and could see the setlist, but I can't be sure; a hazy memory from a concert 30 yrs ago!) Both bands were great though, it was a sort of religious experience for me.

[@StainedGlassStories]

Thank you so much for your words, Stephen! What an incredible concert that would be, I adore both Ride and Pale Saints. Man, I wish I could have been alive back in '92 to have witnessed that. That's really interesting to me to hear that your story matches the idea that Ian didn't enjoy touring. I was nervous I would be dead wrong about that. Lets hope for a Pale Saints reunion in 2022!

[@mauriciomachado3529]

❤️ Pale Saints

[@chrisgoodson9312]

First time I heard them was on a flexi I got with a fanzine, Children Break was the song

[@labibahbalogun]

favorite forever

[@cesarnieto9774]

SANTOS PALIDOS GRANDRES POR SIEMPRE IAN MASTERS UN CRACK

[@frankfrank7921]

How about a doc about Lush? Just seeing multiple pics of Miki would be worth the price of admission.

[@njb1126]

You’ve got a little crush on miki?

[@frankfrank7921]

@@njb1126 Oh yeah, at least how she looked in the 90s. Super scrumptious.

[@khambrelgreen]

I would love to see you do documentaries bands like Half String, from Arizona, Swervedriver and Chapterhouse. I think Chapterhouse had a shorter life and discography than Pale Saints

[@StainedGlassStories]

Those are all great suggestions. I would love to make a video about the groups you mentioned, especially Swervedriver.

[@khambrelgreen]

@@StainedGlassStories, that makes me smile because Swervedriver is the band that I continue listening to even today. They were just so much more muscular than the other shoegazing bands out at the same time

[@DanielNakasone]

Wonder if you can do something similar with Moose

[@samhowie1632]

Does JPS Experience from New Zealand count as shoe gaze? I recommend Bleeding Star from 1993. Can you review them?

[@andyking7621]

You mentioned Mazzy Star ... Both bands did a cover of Slapp Happy's 'Blue Flower'.

[@StainedGlassStories]

I never made that connection! I'll have to listen to the Mazzy Star version.

[@kennethguitarfiend4493]

Thx for this

[@StainedGlassStories]

You're welcome!

[@1jamarks]

Strange I know the tape version I had of In Ribbons included the track "Blue Flower". Why'd it disappear?

[@1jamarks]

I see it was only US version.

[@labibahbalogun]

great video

[@StainedGlassStories]

Thank you Labibah!

[@davidwheeler1255]

The albums are full of songs I wish I'd written.

[@anthonyaiello4343]

Good vid, but just to split hairs, it isn't "transcending genre" when your music also fits into subgenres that are all related.

[@niceking4219]

Where is the lush/pale saints tourbus footage from?

[@busterabcat]

LMAO @ 02:49-02:50 where the cat makes a cameo meowing.!! That is a VERY Pale Saints thing to do in the general scheme of things (remember all the hidden 'easter egg' track snippets on some parts of the compilation album Mrs Dolphin and the unsettling sound of a distressed parrot at the very end of the Comforts Of Madness's final track Time Thief?) Most underrated of all the shoegaze bands in my opinion. Sight Of You was a brilliant debut single and I played it to death. Loved everything the band did between 1989 and 1994 but was really disappointed when Ian left in 1993 to pursue other wildly experimental avenues such as Spoonfed Hybrid, Institute Of Spoons, ESP etc, Friendly Science Orchestra, Mars Is A Ten (some projects with Warren Defever of US indie veterans His Name Is Alive). PS were not as prolific as we would liked to have hoped, but their legacy is still a small but perfectly formed discography - a modest three LPs and five singles / EPs spanning just five years.

[@StainedGlassStories]

I like to have some fun when I video edit 😊

[@ryfkiherdi]

Could you do one for the band Velocity Girl? They sound exactly like early Pale Saints

[@StainedGlassStories]

I would love to at some point!

[@FogAndLime]

WHY is "In RIbbons" still not reissued!?

[@duncan-rmi]

I dated the lady who was ian's replacement, a "latter-day saint", if you will. she was later in warm jets. green arrow at 10:36.

[@duncan-rmi]

lorimer though. no mention.... 😞

[@roberth1322]

Meriel's vocals added so much to the band I do wish Ian had made her permanent lead singer, much as I like his vocals. There was a certain unerring perfection to her voice that you rarely hear in indie, I can only really think of Liz Fraser (obviously) and Trish Keenan (who was wonderful) in that area. I'm biased in this regard as I've almost exclusively liked bands with female lead singers (although it took me a good 15 years to realise this!). I think a female voice just works better with shoegaze or shoegaze-adjacent bands. And, of course, Kinky Love (first song I heard by them) is just utterly gorgeous.

[@mheberling5939]

However, Slow Buildings is in my opinion, there best record.

[@raphaelmann]

I knew these guys briefly when I lived in Leeds in the early 90s. I was in a band with a guy that shared a house with them. They were a really good band, and also very nice people. My band The Silver Panda recently put out a version of 'She Rides The Waves' from their 1st EP... It's quite a radical re-working, but could be interesting to Pale Saints fans... kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqDRoZmdZbeUhLc

[@TheAverageGuy12]

I guess Chapterhouse next?

[@StainedGlassStories]

Maybe🤔

[@louisharris9130]

Slow Buildings was ok but that was a huge loss when Ian left the band. They really should have changed the name since Ian was the founder and really directed the music. Ian just had very little interesting in producing records to please record labels any longer or fans for that matter.

[@Tcoldsteel]

Loved Comforts of Madness but In Ribbons was kinda meh.

[@Flibbybibby]

Ivo went to see Lush but they were terrible and he signed Pale Saints and then later Lush after they improved.

[@jonandrewleon]

Shoegaze is such a BS term. This era was modern psychedelic. It was mind expanding emotional mastery.

[@aj-ly4pp]

Weird pretentious music dudes hate shoegaze, why is that