PAN-PAN Call quickly OVERTURNES to MAYDAY Call. American A319 Hydraulic failure. REAL ATC

7 April 2023.
An American Airlines Airbus A319 registration N744P, performing flight AAL2963 from Washington Reagan National Airport (KDCA) to Charleston International/AFB Airport (KCHS).
During climb out of Reagan Airport declared PAN-PAN and decided to divert to Dulles Airport (KIAD). A couple of minutes later the crew declared MAYDAY, reported hydraulic system failure and requested the longest runway.
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[@chrisschack9716]

21,000 souls on board, this will be an overweight landing...

[@Frank787-9]

😂

[@Relkond]

I’ve heard an aircraft declare no souls on board… this is a bit far in the other direction.

[@seagullsbtn]

Ghost rider, the pattern is full

[@legofreak4895]

Pilot:"Tower, we are overweight and need a holding pattern to dump a few souls" :-)

[@tomperkins5657]

@@legofreak4895 HAAAARRRRR!!!

[@joshuana514]

21,000 people, absolutely ridiculous how many people airlines are cramming into an airplane now days.

[@richardmartin8998]

So the seats really are getting smaller.

[@mrteecee]

@@richardmartin8998 and no leg space! :D

[@twentynineteen4687]

Shrinkflation

[@draskuul]

Just walk through the meat grinder when boarding and you'll be sluiced to your assigned container.

[@electionscompressed3914]

@@draskuul We get one of those styrofoam meat containers they use in grocery stores instead of a seat.

[@whatwhome6914]

I was in a plane with a partial hydraulic failure. They couldn't lower the flaps. We came in fast, brakes smoking, and fire trucks. Landed safely and they towed the plane to the gate. Shortly thereafter, I bought a life insurance policy.😂

[@Fawkes42]

​@@jone8626 presumably it'll help any dependants keep their head above water

[@johnmknox]

4:24 21,000 people on board! 😂 It must be a mothership! 🛸

[@ericcossette3999]

wow one of the most funny reply i have ever seen !

[@jackymok4848]

Yeesh, no wonder why they had a hydraulic failure..

[@4evercuber]

I can't imagine the stress the flight crew was under during these circumstances. I won't lie, the "21000 souls on board" made me giggle a bit. But hats off to all involved in this incident. Glad it turned out fine.

[@most-average-athelete]

may be its an A380 carrying owl fledglings? 21000 is an underestimated number of souls then :x

[@ForionBy]

he said “souls” not “people” 👻

[@gadgetdad2789]

What I would like to see on these videos is the other traffic and to see how ATC clears the area around the plane with the emergency

[@StrangerSenseiE]

and if they add all other planes, then highlighting the plane/tower when they are speaking

[@josepatino5]

Look at 9-11 grounding videos

[@xdev_henry]

Flightradar24

[@tomrepici9608]

Man the pilots were calm and cool despite a mayday. And hats off to the controllers as well. All performed their duties 100% and ensured a safe landing for the aircraft and passengers/crew. Mad respect to all.

[@spankyharland9845]

fortunately both pilots wore their brown flight pants that particular day.

[@BaseReality]

Except at 4:30 where the pilot says 'souls on board' rather than 'pounds on board'. To be fair, suddenly realising that you are personally going to make the difference for whether 73 souls continue to live in this plane of existence, or move on to the next in the next hour or so, is probably mildly discombobulating.

[@limoman23]

I know some people at POTOMAC TRACON and I had the opportunity to tour the facility recently. They are top notch and awesome!

[@cjmillsnun]

Of course they are. It's what they are trained to do. They've done similar scenarios in the simulator before.

[@thatguywillt]

Pilot sounded like he was ordering an iced coffee during that mayday call. Professional as hell.

[@bladi-senpai9398]

such a big plane that can hold 21k souls onboard

[@ajm511]

Or there was a big ol' crate of fish in the hold!

[@christopherrosas2738]

No kidding.... flub by the pilot that got corrected bur whe. I heard 21k souls on board I had to ask what the heck kind of plane are they flying

[@rln2760]

@@christopherrosas2738 shoe transport, 10500 pairs, 21k soles.

[@jeff7597]

Airbus A38000

[@Sintakhra]

Ryanair starts selling “seats” in the hold and overhead compartments.

[@saylortusk8489]

So impressed with the composure of all involved.

[@blockbertus]

The "nice work" at the end from the tower was pretty cool. It's the small things that can change things.

[@ghostrider-be9ek]

2:05 - THATS exactly why MAYDAY is used - ATC understood RIGHT AWAY with NO ambiguity (roger response, instead of 20 questions)

[@robboltwood]

According to Airbus SOP, mayday should be used for a dual hyd failure, and pan pan for a single. Land asap amber/red being the difference.

[@yngndrw.]

@@robboltwood I think they can be forgiven for playing it safe, especially with 21,000 souls on board.

[@wintercame]

@@yngndrw. 😆

[@winstonchurchill3597]

@@yngndrw. lol

[@warriormvp]

I see an elaborate ruse in an effort to draw a bawdy shape.

[@wintercame]

Now that's funny! 😆

[@kristinreynolds577]

These guys did an awesome job! Everyone was very calm, despite what all was going on. These are the kind of people you want in an emergency situation!! 💕

[@greengrendel]

4:40 "21.000 souls on board" calm down Lord Xenu

[@brianpeters5555]

😂👍

[@P4hs]

4:26 - Maybe the hydraulics failed due to the "21,000 souls on board"?😂🤣

[@angc214]

That's the calmest mayday in history. Pilot as cool as the other side of the pillow.

[@havoc23]

Absolute Gem of a pilot!

[@saxamusprime]

The second pilot has an ATIS voice.

[@joeys8701]

And that center controller sounded like his house could be on fire and his tone wouldn’t change.

[@aaronz9410]

@04:33 that must have been one big plane, 21000 souls on board. 😂

[@BostonBuzz]

Very professional and competent all the way around!! 👏

[@alixena9340]

That first ATC did not acknowledge the Pan Pan or the MayDay or the request to divert to Dules, or even give a heading when requested twice at least.

[@SuperParatech]

That is why pilots are needed. Despite the automations in aircraft, sometimes decisions need to be made. Well done for every one's professionalism.

[@biglee13m]

Exactly. Computers can do all the assist but the final authority should be a person.

[@scootdaws25]

Pretty intense but handled like the pros they are. Wow!

[@user-if4us9cf1k]

So impressed with the composure of all involved.. Absolute Gem of a pilot!.

[@user-ll8be9vt4u]

If there's 21,000 SOB, there are folks on the wings and straddling the tail

[@wintercame]

Like baby possums on mama.

[@8bits59]

21000 sons of bitches?

[@maanmohammad8459]

Excellent job by all.

[@LTLoudpack7100]

21,000 souls? What are they flying? A damn city? 😂

[@TangoDelta8111]

It’s comforting to know that the audio pilots and atc hear is much better than the crap we hear. No offence meant to real atc channel. It’s understood you do your best.😊

[@paulsinclair3401]

Well Hallelujah! A good US pilot who follows the standard international communications and knows how to use and isn't afraid to declare 'Pan Pan' and 'Mayday'! All very well handled and clearly communicated!

[@robboltwood]

Airbus SOP for a single hydraulic failure is to make a pan call. Mayday for a dual

[@rubenjanssen1672]

@@robboltwood i think op is refering to the phrase DECLARING AN EMERGENCY being used in the usa alongside the pan pan and mayday calls

[@mattgreen5720]

Great to hear Pan and Mayday being used in the US.

[@Jerneee]

It’s a common call taught to everybody that gets a pilots license in the U.S. why wouldn’t it be?

[@bradowen761]

@@Jerneee Yes but for years ATPs (anecdotally) tended to go immediately to "we're declaring an emergency." It's only recently that Pan and Mayday have become much more frequent.

[@aetd106]

​@@bradowen761I think using "Mayday" is almost a level above "declaring emergency" in practice (based off of years of watching ATC tapes and 0 hours training or experience) as in something that requires immediacy to resolve, versus something that may require resolution (low fuel but not critical). Pan-pan is interesting to hear in a US ATC though

[@Ronnie_B]

We use the same at sea, too

[@LeeMatches]

Tbh though, I would’ve probably left it as a PAN for a single hydraulic system failure. Dual hydraulic def a mayday. Nevertheless, good job by the crew.

[@rilmar2137]

Great job

[@vbscript2]

21,000 souls on an A319? What is this, Ryanair?

[@inconnu4961]

Didnt you hear, the CEO just got a raise! They need to save money some way!

[@Dani-it5sy]

I feel a lot safer now that I know that all these important messages come through so clearly 😨

[@michaelrios-maldonado5486]

Cool heads and great coordination.

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

Hey did anyone make a 21,000 souls on board joke yet? It seems so hilarious and creative.

[@Akumasama]

"We've got 21000 souls on board... currently taking the town of Arlington for a trip..."

[@r6u356une56ney]

21000 souls. DAMN how big is that plane! :)))

[@TiagoSeiler]

"overturnes" is not a word

[@brilton1]

Wow

[@astrid7727]

The legend A319 21000 spuls on board 😊

[@creeper8647]

A "Mayday" airplane and Dulles wouldn't give him their longest runway?

[@nero5379_]

How do they understand with all the static on the call

[@pleabargn]

The pilot corrected himself. He has 21,000 pounds of fuel and 73 souls on board. T

[@torolavheldal1372]

Facility and execution - bucketloads. No doubt!! Noe what I find absolutely astonishing, is the fact that the pilot is able to get what the center is saying on the radio. Signal is weak, imntrrmittend, inarticulate. I know these guys are trained well and must have perfect hearing, but even with transcription of the transactions, I had trouble hearing what center was saying.

[@liam3284]

The antenna we are listening from is on the ground somewhere.

[@reklessbravo2129]

Aircraft and tower can hear a lot better than the listening stations we get this audio from

[@Crazyuncle1]

The livery on that American 319 looks exactly like the old Piedmont livery before U.S.Air bought them. Now that American owns Piedmont Is that a new look for American?

[@joeys8701]

Heritage livery, they have/had several of their a/c painted in the livery of previously acquired airlines. Kinda like wearing the scalp of your enemy, but pretty cool to see the classic paint schemes tooling around.

[@Crazyuncle1]

@@joeys8701 Thanks for the info, Joey. Keep up the great work.

[@lvsluggo007]

@@joeys8701 Whats fun for me is their PSA legacy livery. Being from San Diego, where PSA was HQ'ed, it was my favorite airline up til they got *absorbed* into USAir.

[@shaunpcoleman]

Why is the radio so frizzy? The communications is not very good. The chatter is way too quick and difficult to understand.

[@user-microburst]

One hydraulic system? Or dual?

[@marcverresen]

Does anyone know more information about what happened? Been looking for AA2963 news but not finding anything. It seemed like a serious incident. 😮

[@twiff3rino28]

The A320 family and other aircraft also introduced in the 80s (757/767) have 3 separate hydraulic systems, so it wouldn't be a huge news story if they landed safely.

[@andysedgley]

I thought the A319 had 3 hydraulic systems for redundancy - did this failure take them all out at once, or am I mistaken?

[@Nardur12321]

Considering that they didn't crash and had full control of the aircraft's movements, all of them did not fail. I'm guessing two failed since it escalated from pan to mayday. They probably lost a few systems due to this, considering they couldn't taxi afterwards.

[@JimWhitaker]

I wonder which Hydraulic system was out. Green?

[@tomstravels520]

Due to the loss of NWS I’m going to say yes

[@searchanddiscover]

how come they didn't return to the airport they took off from? it looks like it would have been closer. is it because they needed time to dump fuel?

[@karenlovely6405]

The one they landed on has runway/s that are almost twice the length of the one they took off from. And even then they requested the longest runway for whatever reason.

[@JaakiMaaki]

Why they choosed Dulles over KDCA?

[@redratthezip]

I am guessing runway length.

[@wyrmhand]

For the almighty algorithm

[@Relkond]

So - do we need to sacrifice a whole chicken for this? Or will a bucket of KFC work?

[@laaaliiiluuu]

@@Relkond No less than a Chicken Tikka Masala

[@brucecuratola6389]

How many different frequencies did that flight crew have to deal with? Couldn’t they just leave them on 121.5 and work with that?

[@XxFunkMachinexX]

Good question! Each of those frequencies have different areas of responsibility, and different stages of sequencing aircraft. Additionally, those frequencies are published, meaning multiple other aircraft would be on the same frequency depending on their phase flight. Co-pilots exist to split the pilot workload, so I'm sure they were fine

[@Cableguy5770]

Diffrent controller, diffrent airport.

[@someguyontheinternet7165]

It’s important to leave 121.5 open to ensure you don’t step on all the cats. Meow.

[@erauprcwa]

121.5 is NOT a good frequency to use, unless necessary.

[@Jan-yj5mo]

Guess it was the yellow hydraulic system due to loss of nosewheelsteering.

[@Jan-yj5mo]

Or if it’s an old 319 could have been the green system

[@tomstravels520]

@@Jan-yj5mo it’s 22 years old so I’m guessing green system

[@twiff3rino28]

​@Jan-yj5mo I thought only the engines have changed since 1988?

[@tomstravels520]

@@twiff3rino28 no, Airbus have made many minor/major modifications overtime and added new features

[@Nojustno592]

For those wondering, PAN = Possible Assistance Needed. This means an urgent situation but not yet a mayday level.

[@rowwdycolt654]

Steller performance. By ALL.

[@MrPomelo555]

Can anyone tell me what « INFORMATION ECHO IS CURRENT » means?

[@cjhs77338]

That is the weather for the area. They cycle through the alphabet during the day and assign them to the weather report. This way the controller knows that the aircrew knows the most recent weather conditions for the airport and does not need them to give them the conditions on the ground.

[@MrPomelo555]

@@cjhs77338 Thank you for taking the time to reply! 👍

[@pawochoa]

It refers to the ATIS information version to make sure they are current

[@chafouaube985]

Okay. One question: when a aircraft is in pan pan pan or mayday, mayday mayday, is the Black house still in no flight zone?

[@Kishandreth]

Unless you want an escort to the nearest air strip, I would suggest staying out of that no fly zone. I'm sure people will be reasonable, asking the pilot to IDENT and then treat is as a drill. As long as the pilot is communicating it's not too big of a deal if they nudge into the NFZ while turning. I wouldn't do it unless it was the fastest way back onto the ground, but I can see scenarios that it could be necessary. The amount of interviews the pilot would have after landing isn't worth it.

[@avanvalenziano]

For the love of god can you fix the intro already! 😂

[@andrewdrone]

The R out of the box bothers me

[@avanvalenziano]

@@andrewdrone it’s been weeks!

[@andrewdrone]

The east coast A319s are dumpster fires, I swear. One day I had one fail and both the backup 319s fail until the flight was canceled. It's always something wrong with them.

[@a3300000]

How much time pilot time you have on these aircraft?

[@twiff3rino28]

Some are from 2013 and others are from 1996. The design is 1987.

[@milesaharrison]

It's hard to make out the actual R/T, but the subs say 'a failure of ONE of our hydraulic systems', it must be more than that. A single hydraulic failure on the Airbus isn't a big deal.

[@redratthezip]

In such cases I believe it is better to land, in order to avoid a possible second or third hydraulic system failure (or something else). Redundancy is awesome, but I'd land the plane as soon as one of the major systems fails.

[@milesaharrison]

@@redratthezip Absolutely, but for what it's worth... Airbus themselves doesn't think a single hydraulic failure is a major issue as no single failure is a LAND ASAP according to the Airbus ECAM. That being said, commercial aspects kick in along with a working knowledge of the hydraulic architecture: eg a failure of the blue system has the least consequences - and the green having the most. It might be prudent to divert and expedition from ATC may be warranted to preserve the reamining systems.

[@twiff3rino28]

1987 hydraulic systems.

[@weaselworm8681]

This channel is a public service.

[@Goomlahexpress]

Not a pilot: why all right turns?

[@redratthezip]

To burn/dump fuel, in order to reach landing weight parameters.

[@KingofDoubleBogey]

@@redratthezip- They can’t turn left ? 😂

[@MissYijare]

@@KingofDoubleBogey they can, but thats what they where instructed. you are seeing a single aircraft in a otherwise busy space of air. at the time this occured there was at least two bird behind them, a third in front of them and not to cover all the other flights from Dulles or the inbounds to both airports.

[@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549]

Because of the earths rotation, if they were in Australia they would all be left turns

[@oldNavyJZ]

As a business traveler, I found it best to avoid AA as much as possible. I think Frontier actually keeps up with their maintenance better - though I don't fly them either.

[@hamentaschen]

Putin is fartsmeller.

[@XxFunkMachinexX]

That's crazy, I was thinking the exact same thing

[@wintercame]

@@XxFunkMachinexX Me too, it's nuts.

[@cnvi08]

Why didn’t the pilots drop the masks??

[@tomstravels520]

Why would they need to?

[@heatherknoxt]

The cabin didn’t lose pressure?? That’s why.

[@bootmii98]

The FAA just doesn't understand "Pan-pan". Pilots declaring "pan-pan" aren't entitled to what they need in the US. Hence someone facing slow depressurization needs to declare an emergency or "mayday" where in other countries "Pan-pan" would entitle them to descend or even deviate.

[@TheSherryBoops]

I don't like looking at a cartoon drawing of planes.

[@chizusakuraa]

I love the pilots here. This is the only flight that updates the controller as to the last command as soon as they change frequencies. That aside. I hope Real ATC can fix its grammatical error. The "started to moving" ticked me off in the end. Otherwise, this would have been excellent for me as well.

[@davidmontville4885]

AM radio sucks -- has caused and will continue to cause confusion and accidents.

[@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549]

They don’t use AM radio

[@davidmontville4885]

@@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 And the cow flew over the moon

[@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549]

@@davidmontville4885 what?

[@davidmontville4885]

@@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 Check Google -- aviation uses AM almost exclusively.

[@georgesheffield1580]

ATC not very responsive , or clear

[@georgesheffield1580]

Tower responsive and clear

[@BeakerSteve]

??

[@phillarnach9484]

Much ado about an insignificant failure unless they lost more than one hydraulic system.

[@TopShot501st]

Its redundant not insignificant

[@Kishandreth]

Maybe the maintenance report said possible issues with the other hydraulic system, but the supposedly good system went out? I'd ground the plane if you told me there might be issues with Hydraulic system A and Hydraulic system B went out. It also could be their airlines procedure, that a single hydraulic failure means grounding the plane.

[@peteconrad2077]

@@Kishandreththe MEL says the plane is grounded with any hyd faijure.

[@peteconrad2077]

Depending on the system it could be more or less significant but it’s never insignificant. Hydraulic systems are the most critical systems on the aircraft.

[@tomswagboy]

Air travel is the most unsafe mode of travel. Go for trains or cruises, takes time but atleast the infrastructure is stable.

[@tomstravels520]

Yeah because we all have time to spend a week at sea crossing the Atlantic and then another week to go home plus whatever you do on the other side

[@tomswagboy]

@@tomstravels520 Atleast you get back safe, unless you decide otherwise. Cheerios mate ✌🏻

[@tomstravels520]

@@tomswagboy I’ve been on 91 flights and always got back safe. I’ll take speed and time seeing as I only get so much time off work and don’t want to spend it stuck on a boat

[@HarshL]

Do you drive or travel in a car? Cars are FAR more accident prone and unsafe when compared to planes. Its not even remotely close.

[@casey6139]

Fatal accidents only occur once every two million flights.

[@paulsmith4118]

Mayday mayday someone just farted