Panasonic GH5 vs Panasonic S1 - Should you switch?

[@TheHybridShooter]

*Filters* that I use - amzn.to/2rH1arH Sample shots were edited in* Luminar 4.1* - bit.ly/Luminar4THS Discount code: THS10 *Zhiyun Weebill S* Review w/ Sony A7III - bit.ly/WeebillSreview

[@GermanViking]

The Hybrid Shooter I was going to ask you about those filters hehe, they are already on my wishlist. Im planning to use them on the almost complete upcoming tamron holy trinity for Sony e-mount.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Those are definitely worth, the price is really good.

[@fellowcitizen]

3:27 Don't forget the 1.09x 4K60 of the S1R ;)

[@HaraldHofer]

I'm sure both are great cameras. However: I just came back from Africa with my G9, which is basically the same size and the lenses are the same. I own both but decided to leave the GH5 at home. I easily could carry the 8-18, 12-35, 35-70 and 100-400 with me AND a water bottle and other stuff - not unimportant if you are in the Namibian bush land on foot. Would I have used the S1 I would have been screwed as I would have had to leave my water at home... :) All kidding aside: For me personally the smaller lenses etc. kill everything else.

[@KCVisualz]

Good video great to see the Gh5 is still a beast, I upgraded from the the gh4 couple months ago so still getting use to it but so far it's great.

[@robertmendes4181]

KCVisualz Do you have problems with the autofocus?

[@KCVisualz]

@@robertmendes4181 tbh I never really tried it I use manual focus but heard it was better with latest firmware.

[@JoeMaranophotography]

When you decide to watch HS videos on your 4k TV nowadays as the quality is better than the BBC 👌

[@juliancroot]

I agree with your summary. I also tried the S1H, but manual focusing is hard when the lenses are so big. The GH5 remains the most practical option for most things. If I need low light, I bring out the GH5s and a monopod. I think people have forgotten about monopods. Just get a decent carbon fibre model that packs away nice and small. 😁

[@raksh9]

It's funny, a monopod was on every job I did for almost eight years. But after I got a G9 with its super IBIS, I hardly ever bring a monopod, and going handheld has opened a new world of camera movement, speed and portability. But I do use a monopod when using extra long lenses or if shooting a lot from a stationary position.

[@KevinLe]

Great video! I have the S1H and have owned the GH5 and GH5s. For multi-camera shooters, i'd say the S1H is an amazingly great camera and the GH5 is a great secondary camera. Their colors are very very similar. The GH5s has a magenta shift to it, but the S1H and GH5 lean on the greenish tint so they're really good together.

[@TheHybridShooter]

I found the colors on S1H and GH5 to be very different. GH5 was much warmer and closer to Canon. GH5S and S1H were the closest.

[@AiurMedia]

i have a nice A7 fullframe collection, i'll go for the GH5 for videos someday :>

[@chrisklugh]

Thanks for this! I think I will be staying with m43 for a while longer. Would it be plausible to compare the GH5s to the S1/S1H for low light?

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, it is possible that I will be able to do that at some point in future, but at the moment I don't have the GH5S.

[@chrisklugh]

@@TheHybridShooter Well, neither do I so I get that could be a tricky thing to acquire. But if you ever do get your hands on one and do your tests, I will be interested in your thoughts/comparisons of that.

[@eguitarstar]

Thanks for this video. Could you do an update on the G9 with the most recent firmware?

[@TheHybridShooter]

You’re welcome, I unfortunately don’t have the G9 at the moment.

[@pgulysse1]

Thanks for the review and comparison. Wondering what's gonna be #Panasonic #Lumix next move for the GH5/GH5S/G9? a trio MFT (new naming and merging GH5+GH5S+G9) like for the new FF cameras? FF 1.- Photo-centric > S1 > 24.2MP 2.- Photo-centric but more MP > S1R > 47.3MP 3.- Video-centric > S1H > 24.2MP vs MFT 1.- Photo-centric > G__ > xx.xMP > A GX with 20MP or more 2.- Photo-centric but more MP > G__ > xx.xMP > A GXR with Sony 41MP MFT sensor? 3.- Video-centric > G__ + G__ > xx.xMP > A GXH + GXHS > 2 cameras, a one like GH5S for low light performance because of the sensor size? What do you think?

[@TheHybridShooter]

I hope that G and GH lines will be merged and I hope that they will stay at 20.2 mpix.

[@ScrapyardFilms]

Good content, man!

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you!

[@loveydarl]

Every review of the Hybrid Shooter is so detailed and to the point. Great work!

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you!

[@nongnhatquang]

I'm upgrading from Sony A6300, and with a budget of $4000 (for camera, lens and potentially audio) - I'm looking into GH5 & S1. I shoot documentary solo, and given the track record of firmware upgrade I kinda have high hope for the S1. Which one do you think is more future proof/better investment?

[@grumpywiseguy5992]

This video has to be one of your best! Not too long or full of boring spec detail. You adequately state the differences between the two cameras, their strengths and weaknesses, etc. The one thing you didn't mention was price. If I was a professional photographer/videographer, I would probably buy BOTH!! One for the high resolution studio work and some high grade portrait/landscape shots on a tripod, and the other (GH5) for video work of all types, from YTube to street shooting. They compliment each other in ways no other setup can do. One HUGE advantage is a similar menu system that will keep memorizing hundreds of different options to a minimum. Great cameras, great lens selections, and together with lens, they cost less than anything serious out of Leica!!

[@thebentzenable]

Panasonic really did a good job with the S1♥️ I will pass it because I need the flippy screen. Thanks for another excellent video 🙏💪

[@WillsonHo]

Ensian Blåfugl the S1 actually has a tilt and flip out screen! I recommend searching it up because it’s pretty cool!

[@WorkingTitleVP]

Do you know if the Weebil S can handle those heavier lenses on the S1? I use the Sigma 35mm f/1.2 and it’s reeaal hefty!

[@zahinjawad6071]

You live in such a beautiful city.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, I actually don't live in a city, but I was lucky to be able to travel in a lot of beautiful cities.

[@petermajoros7471]

which city is this?

[@jessestarks3128]

Very good comparison. I didn't plan to switch from the GH4 to the S1, but I'm keeping my eyes on both systems.

[@TimJarvis]

Nice comparison. How does the G9 compare? Also unrelated, what city is this?

[@TheHybridShooter]

That is a complicated question, I will make a video about that later on. It is shot in many cities - Marrakesh, Malaga, Alghero, Bratislava and so on.

[@Princeton_James]

Great question. I love my G9.

[@hoodaffairstv]

do a video with the gh5 vs g9

[@TheHybridShooter]

I don't have G9 at the moment.

[@peterlemke3468]

Great comparison thanks for sharing your real world experience with both cameras THS.

[@jewlicious]

What are your ideal autofocus settings for the GH5? GH5s? Great video btw!

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, u use custom settings off.

[@Tigerex966]

Panasonic HAS TO fix it focus problems once and for all, as that is it's weakest link in all of it's cameras. It HAS TO BE FIXED NOW!

[@TheHybridShooter]

Not really, it is very good in M43 cameras.

[@bushguidebaz6540]

@@TheHybridShooter Yes I totally agree, have no problems at all with AF on GH5 and focus assist on manual is brilliant - if you need it.

[@TopGarageTV]

Slightly off-topic. Your review Bill of the Pany/Leica 10-25mm lens convinced me of buying it even when just about everyone else was still recommending the Sigma + speed booster. Your content/info was dead on ....as always! Even though 90% of my use of that lens right now is photos, it still is worthwhile and it is extremely close in sharpness with the best mft primes with my testing. Sticking to a native lens for autofocus speed and accuracy as you noted is so valuable in my opinion. You really should have least 250K subs dude.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, I am very happy with this amount of subscribers :)

[@over-x-poser6289]

Lot of biased and untrue reviews on the 10-25. It is an extraordinary lens... optically, in use.. .and a different 2.8 focal length for a change. One of the best "FF 2.8s" money can buy... so even the price is "ok".

[@OUCGN]

I don't know anyone else who always talks about all the details I want to know. Thank you!

[@KathyXie]

Beautiful Malaga footage

[@multifoto521]

great video! We use a GH5 as well as a G9 and recently added an S1H with 24-70 and 70-200 2.8 lenses to the kit. Agree with your conclusion, both cameras have their distinct and different set of benefits and use cases. The great thing is that the picture profiles of the cameras are fairly similar and easy to match in post.

[@gregory71]

We shoot real estate interiors (video). Is the Dynamic range of the s1 at 4k60 a lot better than the GH5?

[@multifoto521]

W haven't done enough testing of the S1H to have a conclusive answer on that just yet.

[@over-x-poser6289]

You are the man when it comes to tech videos - practical including your own opinion A thought: Comparing identical exposure triangles over different formats doesn't hold any value in terms of real life use. When I shoot FF & I choose f5.6 - I would never shoot MFT at f5.6 if it can go f2.8 - like in your example. So it is 1/2 ISO of FF in real world situations. The GH5 still looks a little worse, but not as severe as it seems at identical ISO values (2 stop advantage S1 to 20MP MFT sensor, but not 4). Here the GH5 seems close to "not good enough" at ISO6400. In reality MFT just doesn't use 5.6 indoors... or after dark. There is no application for the DOF achieved that way.. not in that light; resolution records are also at faster apertures with practically any MFT lens. All the best!

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, although I don't agree with that. It is a bit more complicated. In reality you usually don't use FF cameras for ENG style, deep DoF shots when you are using longer focal lengths. At wider FoV the DoF is usually deep enough even at something like F2.8 on FF. F2.8 is enough for both FF and M43 in that situation, so FF will beat the M43 the same way, just like in most real-world low light situations.

[@over-x-poser6289]

@@TheHybridShooter You block a polite and logical response because it contradicts your point? This could be useful to some... The man with tech video. Not the man in real life. Now I know more about you than anybody should know over the internet. Still thanks for the answer. It made me realize that advantage of FF and so I can use my gear more efficient. Censorship makes this the last time I stop by. Have a good life, my friend

[@TheHybridShooter]

@@over-x-poser6289 I didn't block anything, there are probably some technical issues, or it might be in automatic spam filter. I would obviously delete the whole thread if wanted to censor something and I wouldn't be responding here.

[@over-x-poser6289]

@@TheHybridShooter Hm. Strange. I can still see it, but need to be logged in. Other acc can't see it. No worries then. I asked something about FF2.8 and 10-25.. we would shoot last at 1.7 wouldn't we? In the end it has to be same composition. Only 1.4 wide primes on FF -> MFT has no way to match 1/2 Iso... there is no 0.7 lens

[@Filmmaker809]

for 2021, I am considering the S1 now, I am a filmmaker using the GH5 & GH5s.

[@po6160]

wow

[@MarcyMoe]

hey wiliam. i think many hybridshooters would be happy to see a video about the S pro16 35 f4 in combination with the Lumix s1. that would make us really happy. dearest greetings to slovakia

[@GATECH3D]

Great video as always, but aren't you tired of carrying all those cameras and lenses all the time ? ;)

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you! I like testing new cameras and technology, so I don't mind it that much.

[@ScrattleGG]

Would it be possible for you to make your video quality lower? It kinda ruins my experience browsing youtube knowing just how pretty it could be hahaha :D

[@lilrizq]

If they didn't cripple the high speed video on the S1 I would cop it.

[@micahmahaffey5919]

they fixed the high speed video i thought?

[@lilrizq]

@@micahmahaffey5919 I've seen some of the high speed footage and it's really soft looking. It takes a huge bitrate drop in high speed, my GH5 120 footage looks better.

[@kayatworkme]

if you have the opportunity, could you compare the detail of gh5 (g9) and s1 (s5) in 4k 60fps. Thx!

[@TheHybridShooter]

Unfortunately, I can say that I won’t have such opportunity.

[@kayatworkme]

@@TheHybridShooter ok! Thanx for response!

[@mariuspackevicius9744]

Hi can you balance the weelab s with s1 and lumix 24-70 2.8? Thanks

[@EJGentleman]

Having the G9, it is still my favorite camera. The S1 is nice for a full frame, but I really like the nature of the camera. I have after trying it out a my local shop, not to switch.

[@princekwasiyoung5753]

My gh5 autofocus is the best ever tho I mostly shoot manual focus

[@TheHybridShooter]

GH5 AF is very far from being the best ever.

[@lostandfound5145]

Can you help? I am a small business owner and need to do both excellent portrait quality photos as well as bi-weekly videos and the better the image quality, the better business does. Panasonic GH5s or Sony a7iii? I rely more on good quality, well lit videos than images. I prefer not to spend forever editing but photos are much easier for an amateur to edit than a video. I’m a bit lost! It’s so technical and I haven’t time to take a college course! Any advice you have, I would be so grateful ❤️

[@TheHybridShooter]

Probably the A7 III. With the GH5S you would need more skills and knowledge to get the most out of it.

[@davidszabo8451]

For me would be the main question, that if i want to buy my first video kit for wedding and event video for 2 videographers, should i get 2 Pana S1 body with Sigma 35mm f1,4 and Sigma 85mm f1,4; or one Pana GH5, one GH5S with Voigtländer 17,5 f0,95 and 42,5 f0,95?

[@TheHybridShooter]

I would definitely avoid those Voigtlanders ther M43 line just isn't very good. I also wouldn't insist on F1.4 FF for video, is is not that useful for video in my experience.

[@jorgem50]

please make a video comparing s5 and gh5

[@TheHybridShooter]

Maybe later on.

[@johnbuscher]

I'm shocked at how slow the Autofocus seemed for the S1, the GH5 seemed a little poky but the S1 felt slower than my Pentax K-1 with a slow lens. I wonder if there's something you can do to help speed up responsiveness or if the lens makes a large difference in speed. By comparison, the Sony seemed spot on and I think Nikon's Z6 is pretty good too.

[@TheHybridShooter]

You can set the speed in menu, but it will cause even more hunting, so no, you can't really improve it.

[@blender_wiki]

If you look for image stabilization for video Panasonic is the only real solution. Even on middle of 2020 the competition is far away. Until you don't move your camera the stabilization is ok also on other brand but if you want a stabilization for video camera mouvement the only usable footage is the Panasonic one.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Not anymore. Fujifilm X-T4 at least matches GH5.

[@lukasnekuda6484]

říkal jsem si, že to je nějaký povědomí hlas... hlas co dělá recenze ve slovenštině :D

[@TheHybridShooter]

Ano, dělám recenze i ve slovenštině :)

[@mamtili]

Great video! Do you have a plan to compare gh5 vs g9 in 2020 after firmware update and also suggestion?

[@TheHybridShooter]

I unfortunately don't have the G9 anymore, so I am not able to do that.

[@ashmaterial]

Compare g9 vs gh5 please in future

[@TheHybridShooter]

I will try to.

[@50450720]

This video could do with a revision in view of the newer firmware updates to the s1, the up coming 5.9k option will put the s1 in a different league.

[@TheHybridShooter]

I am currently not interested in either of these systems, so I don't have any plans to revisit this video at the moment, sorry about that.

[@Tigerex966]

is there an adapter to use m43 lenses with the S1, if so it would make a sensible upgrade path, otherwise, not so much.

[@TheHybridShooter]

No, using M43 lenses on S1 would actually make no sense.

[@davidvictory9764]

do you think i am getting basicly full frame results with a gh5 and sigma 16mm f1.4? like it would basicly be a 32mm f2.8 FF eqv right? which is good i think. and if i were to compare the f1.4 on the gh5 to f2.8 on ff. i dont really understand the ISO differences at that. but would the gh5 or full frame do better with those configurations?

[@TheHybridShooter]

No, definitely not. There is a lot more that makes up the full frame look, especially lower pixel density on FF, less in-camera sharpening, superior detail, DR and so on.

[@davidvictory9764]

@@TheHybridShooter I mainly want it for recording myself, social media content, KZbin, need still some good lowlight tho for the gym and walking at night. Nothing where you can pixel peep with all the compressions. So with that being said, still no?

[@TheHybridShooter]

Your question was whether you will get full frame results with GH5 and the answer to that will always be no. I can't tell you whether it will be good enough for you, that depends on your expectations.

[@davidvictory9764]

@@TheHybridShooter yeah I know what you mean. But like if my friend was making youtube videos such as vlogging, and recording himself in his room for example. And I was too. But he was using f2.8 a7RIV where as me with the gh5 and f1.4. For youtube. Would people watching be able to tell an actual quality difference? Sorry I just kinda rambled on, and it may seem very unorganized. I just never had full frame camera, but my dream is to get a7riv

[@fireislandmavic5939]

wow what a difference in sensor size

[@systemedmultimedia6526]

Will you do a video of the GH5 vs S1h soon ? I think that it'll be quite relevant. Thanks and keep up with the good work.

[@TheHybridShooter]

You're welcome! No, I am not able to get any review units at the moment due to the global situations.

[@HAlariousInc]

Great comparison! Should have mentioned the secret dual native iso capabilities of the S1 (considering its the same sensor as S1H)

[@TheHybridShooter]

That doesn't man that it has dual native ISO, there has to be separate physical amplification circuit.

[@tobiasmoeckel]

Do you still get that weird shakiness in the corners when you use those UWA lenses on the gimbal with IBIS turned on?

[@TheHybridShooter]

No, on GH5 and S1 it is not a problem. I don't about the G9. It is still a big problem on Olympus cameras in video, EM-1X does that up to 12mm, unless they fixed it by FW.

[@Boorifee]

hello my friend. is it possible you review the PL 25mm 1.4 mark ii? :)

[@TheHybridShooter]

Unfortunately not, I am not able to review any new product at the moment due to global situation.

[@ma_tests]

Hi, Hybrid Shooter, in which old cities did you shoot this beautiful pictures? For example 5:15, 5:30.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Both of those were shot in Malaga, Spain.

[@ubarhd1]

Very informative video thanks

[@TheHybridShooter]

You're welcome, thank you for watching!

[@TheDengozo]

Very good comparison, great video.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you!

[@4ksydneyeventvideographer806]

, How much sharpness do you add in edit with GH5 ?

[@TheHybridShooter]

-5 in camera, +16 in Premiere Pro.

[@glebmazur9892]

Hello 👋 Great comparison, found it really helpful. Any reason to grab GH5S +PL10-25 instead of S5 and FF lens? IQ factor, price is not different. + using vintage lenses on FF bodies helps to get maximum from glass (im still not happy with the separation i got on f2.8 with focal reducer).

[@TheHybridShooter]

Not really, although at the moment, I wouldn't invest in L-mount either.

[@glebmazur9892]

@@TheHybridShooter i am thinking to invest in FF body. Mainly will shoot on vintage lenses, something like 16-35 or 24-70 for AF and run and gun job. Hope FF will make my image more shallow and wider for +- same money and size.

[@TheHybridShooter]

FF is a good choice, but I wouldn’t go with Panasonic, especially if you need good AF.

[@Ryezn5057]

Will you review the XT4?

[@TheHybridShooter]

I don't know at the moement.

[@engramm8]

great review thanks! i want switch to S1 but i waiting for a review of a xt4. i hope you make a one for the new fuji.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, that depends on whether I will get a review unit.

[@80-80.]

Lack of cheap lenses makes S1 uninteresting for me at the moment.

[@TheHybridShooter]

There are some fairly affordable L-mount lenses from Sigma.

[@80-80.]

@@TheHybridShooter OK, I'll look into it!

[@MoneybearGang]

Thanks for another great video

[@TheHybridShooter]

You're welcome, thank you for watching!

[@abonizartech7174]

welcome to morocco

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, but I am currently not in Morocco, I was there last year.

[@raksh9]

The last time I was this early, Sonys used floppy discs for memory!

[@johndshotsShorts]

dobra praca chlape, postupne som si uvedomil ze si Slovak :D pri zaberoch

[@TheHybridShooter]

Ďakujem pekne!

[@alantuttphotography]

I have used Nikon cameras for many years, however, I've recently been considering one of these. Really appreciate your reviews, and find myself coming back to watch them over and over again. You bring up many points I have wondered about, and by the end, hearing you say that if you had to choose, you'd go with the GH5 really means a lot. In the noise comparisons, I noticed you kept the same settings for both cameras. This means the GH5 has greater DOF at those settings. It would also be nice to see a comparison where the aperture is adjusted to match DOF, and ISO adjusted to compensate. This would hightlight the advantage of M4/3, which is that you get the same DOF at a lower aperture. I suspect this would even out the difference in noise between the 2 formats.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, full frame is not supposed to match M43 look, so I don't think that it is an advantage of M43. DoF is sufficient in that situation, nothing is out of focus, so I see no reason to compensate for DoF.

[@alantuttphotography]

@@TheHybridShooter That's fine. What I meant was that if the FF image was shot at f5.6, then the M4/3 image could be shot at f2.8 and get the same look, and then the ISO could drop by 2 stops, giving a cleaner image. This is what I meant by the advantage of M4/3.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Yes, I understand, but as I have explained, I dont think that matching DoF is necessary, because that is not what FF users will do in the real wold usage.

[@alantuttphotography]

@@TheHybridShooter Maybe not. As a user of FF cameras thinking about switching to M4/3, I know I would use lower f-stops, because it's not the number that's important, it's the look I want to create.

[@TheHybridShooter]

I meant that the other way around. FF uses won't stop down to F8 for interviews to match M43 look at F4. Shallow DoF, achievable with standard lenses, is one of the main characteristics of the FF cameras and therefore I have no problem with side-by-side comparisons without matching DoF.

[@VardagslivTV]

Hi great video!! I have a question about autofocus. If you following a person with one area focus. Does the one area box needs to be on the persons head or can i just have it on the chest? Beacuse the head is smaller and moore difficult to follow! I have done it on the chest and it seems that the whole person comes in focus. And when i campare. 1 area in chest vs 1 area on head it's not big differnece. On the head seems slightly better. (12mm 2.8) or maybe its the same i dont know... Do you know if it does matter Where on the body you Place your 1 area box?😊

[@TheHybridShooter]

The best option in that case it to use smart tracking feature which will automatically detect the face. That part of AF system works well, so there are no reliability issues.

[@VardagslivTV]

@@TheHybridShooter Hi!! Does the GH5 have that? I have i GH5

[@TheHybridShooter]

Yes, it does.

[@VardagslivTV]

@@TheHybridShooteroh! is that the 225 area option?

[@TheHybridShooter]

No, it is the first one from left.

[@EugeneMaynard]

🙏🏾

[@bidosad]

Great comparison video! I think you should have emphasized the huge selection of lenses available for the GH 5, not only from Panasonic, but also, from Sigma( great primes with auto focus), and from Olympus, especially the Pro lineup. Of course the Olympus Pro lenses are big, pricey and rather heavy, but it's better to have choices. The S1 on the other hand, although a great body still lacks lens choices and price affordability. Good job!

[@jimbean532]

Thank you for the quick follow up with this video. Seems like the best solution is GH5 for video and S1R for stills. ;)

[@TheHybridShooter]

You're welcome. I would say that it probably is A7R IV for stills to be honest.

[@arnaudr6541]

@@TheHybridShooter thanks for this video. I'm an GH5 user. But I need a stills camera too (360° panoramas (real estate). So I bought a A7R3 with a 16 35 F4. I just tested it. But I don't like the results (noisy, not sharp really, dark and cold colours… Well maybe is a question of habits (compare to lumix), or settings… I was thinking I should have choose a S1 with the high resolution mode. What do you think about your experience ? (sony vs panasonic) In the S1, can we use the high resolution mode with bracketing fonction ? Thank you . Regards

[@TheHybridShooter]

@@arnaudr6541 I have never heard anybody complaint about bad image quality on A7R III. 16-35mm F4 is very average lens, but the problem is probably somewhere else. If you can't get good results with A7R3, getting S1 won't help you. Take a look at the settings, use lower ISO, exposure compensation and so on...

[@arnaudr6541]

@@TheHybridShooter Thanks for your answer. I'll check again the A7R3. The idea to go with the S1, was have just one camera good for video and stills and sell the GH5 and the A7R3 for a S1… In the S1, can we use the high resolution mode with bracketing fonction ? Have a good day.

[@totoroutes5389]

Will the gh6 have all of the features of the gh5s and the g9 combined?

[@TheHybridShooter]

Nobody knows.

[@amermeleitor]

We need a 9mp full frame sensor for 4k video. Less pixels, faster readout. Big pixels, more light. Enough pixels for photo too.

[@TheHybridShooter]

I prefer downsampling.

[@jorgem50]

As much as I like the S1, I will not trade my g9s. they are basically a gh5 mini

[@Choiboi90]

S1 is better overall imo, but the GH5 price/value is better

[@TheAnnoor]

the review basically sums up that the GH5 is still amazing even compared to the way more expensive s1

[@TheHybridShooter]

Not really, this video is not a direct comparison. The proper summary is at the end of the video.

[@ashmaterial]

Gh5 now more expensive than sony a7 iii

[@TheHybridShooter]

GH5 is much cheaper in US and EU.

[@AJNguyenYT]

Shouldn't the GH5 be compare to the S1H instead? They're both design for video shooters right?

[@TheHybridShooter]

No, GH5 and S1 are hybrid. GH5S and S1H are video-oriented.

[@AJNguyenYT]

@@TheHybridShooter Oh I see, my mistake. I bought the G9 from watching your video one year ago. It fit very well for what I normally do outside like street photography and traveling.

[@JosephOlar]

Nice review but First off why is everyone complaining about rolling shutter? even the G5 show rolling you were panning slower than the other camera. Mirrorless camera do not have global shutter. It would be one hell of a challenge for all camera company that can adapt both shutter system in the camera. same as the smartphone they do not contain global shutter too. that my 2 cent

[@TheHybridShooter]

As far as I know, nobody is complaining about the rolling shutter on the GH5. If you are asking generally, I guess that people don't like skewed lines that are vertical in reality... on something like EOS R it will ruin you footage. I'm not sure if that is the answer that your were looking for, but I don't really know how to answer that.

[@colinire15]

I've looked at some recent footage online from the GH5s and it still exhibits that stuttering effect with panning shots. Apparently the S1 and above don't have this problem.

[@TheHybridShooter]

I don't see anything like that on my GH5, that would mostly be cause by video head for filmmaking technique.

[@JosephOlar]

then maybe it time to stop demonstrating the rolling shutter effect as we all know it cannot handle it A smooth panning is the goal to great video including using other tools and equipment like gimbal. Which you have done. Cheers

[@TheHybridShooter]

I don't think so, many cameras can handle it and it is still important for shooting fast action. Fast panning is completely valid technique for shooting sports and similar types of footage, so I will definitely keep testing rolling shutter in my reviews.

[@nwvideographotographer7186]

You should check out the 56mm f1.4 from Sigma, it is one of the best lenses for m4/3 and one of the sharpest. I did a review for using it for portrait photography.

[@TheHybridShooter]

I don't shoot portraits, so I will skip that one.

[@nwvideographotographer7186]

@@TheHybridShooter I also use it as my go to for product photography and b roll. It is just a great all around lens over the 42,5 1.2, I hope I didn't give the impression it was just for portraits. It would take your watch shots to another level.

[@castielvargastv7931]

nwvideographotographer sigma has no inbuild stabilization no apature ring and all in all its a much cheaper build. So no cmparison to the leica

[@TheHybridShooter]

@@castielvargastv7931 Definitely not a cheaper build.

[@castielvargastv7931]

The Hybrid Shooter it has no fstop ring and no focus clutch like the olympus lenses have so its a very basic lense and this looks cheap to me. Not a pro lense in my opinion, its not only about the optical qualitys but about the ease of use. Real pro lenses are more expensive of course but you get what you pay.

[@Filmmaker809]

I would say going from the GH5 to the S1H would be the logical upgrade as both are video centric cameras.

[@TheHybridShooter]

No, S1 and GH5 are hybrid. S1H and GH5S are video centric options.

[@Filmmaker809]

Okay how about going from the GH5s to S1H.

[@TheHybridShooter]

I will try to make a comparison in the future, I have never used them side-by-side.

[@Filmmaker809]

Great!

[@thedrvn]

Still doesn't touch the A7Riii

[@TheHybridShooter]

That is a different type of camera, not directly comparable with either.

[@Stephen.Bingham]

Perhaps we should remember that for a given depth of field a m43 camera will be operating at two stops numerically smaller f-stop and ISO than a Full Frame camera. It usually turns out that when trying to record the same image - with the same depth of field - the noise and therefore the "low light performance" is not massively different.

[@TheHybridShooter]

It is a bit more complicated than that. In reality you usually don't use FF cameras for ENG style deep DoF shots when you are using longer focal lengths. At wider FoV the DoF is usually deep enough even at something like F2.8 on FF. In reality, the FF performance will be massively different in majority of cases, unless you use very bright lens on M43.

[@Stephen.Bingham]

@@TheHybridShooter I'm a professional - I'm an engineer/scientist who designs fancy optical instruments for Physics research purposes. I think that photographers need to know three basic facts when choosing between FF and crop sensor cameras: (i) Bulky lenses can collect more light and render shallower depth of field (the size of the sensor has no effect); (ii) Larger sensors can process more light than smaller sensors and this leads to potentially larger dynamic range; (iii) Smaller sensors have faster read-out speeds which tends to be important in high resolution and/or high frame rate video. I think that defining "low light performance" as measuring the same image - with the same depth of field - is the only sensible starting point for such a discussion. But there are exceptions - astrophotography, for example - where depth of field is unimportant. In that context the "low light performance" is mainly determined by the physical size of your lens (or mirror) and has very little to do with sensor size.

[@TheHybridShooter]

I have explained that multiple times in previous videos, as I have said this video is not dedicated FF vs M43 sensors comparison. According to my experiences, majority of users will get "massively better" results with FF cameras and commonly used lenses in real-world situations. For the purposes of this video, I am OK with saying that the low light performance is *generally* an advantage of full frame, even though it is a relative advantage as I have also said in the video.

[@Stephen.Bingham]

The Hybrid Shooter people can judge for themselves, of course. They can compare the video and photo examples you and others have presented for m43 cameras at ISO 1600, for example, with those measured at ISO 6400 on full frame and decide if they can really see a substantial difference in quality.

[@TheHybridShooter]

@@Stephen.Bingham Of course, although I still think that comparing ISO 6400 to ISO 6400 makes much more sense, as I have explained in my first comment.

[@JD-ox5kl]

It is hard to engage in your videos when you reuse the footage from previous videos - but good spoken content though

[@TheHybridShooter]

I am aware of that, but that is the footage that I have and I still much prefer reused footage over talking-head videos. Ideally, I would shoot new footage for every video, but that is currently not possible.

[@sirlancelot3109]

Yeah if the clip of the S1 was reshot with a different background and you wearing a different shirt I would have been able to understand the content better.......FFS your videos are great, engaging, timely, and free. Thank you very much for them.