Panasonic Lumix G9 II in 5.7K and C4K 60P/120P, Video Quality and Stabilization Test

[@ArthroseAdventurer]

Nice Video...and Music. I bought the Lumix G9 II two days ago and am looking forward to the first results.

[@Weechoo]

Thanks, Let us know about your findings.

[@Weechoo]

An update to anyone who's still watching this video and wondering about the jittery stabilization in 5.7K. I had a couple of firmware updates, now I'm on 2.1 and I have no stabilization issues anymore. In 5.7K the stabilization just as good as in 4K. I don't know if it was the firmware update that fixed it, or because I bought a Leica 50-200mm and some v60 memory cards which I'm using now. They even updated some lens firmware. I talked to panasonic customer support as well, they asked me if the problem was solved with firmware 2.1, so I think they made an update although it doesn't show in the firmware log. And I think they fixed it with version 2.0 earlier on. If you've got similar or maybe different experience with this, you can comment below, I'd like to hear your thoughts. Thanks

[@IsawUupThere]

8:46 My 100-300II did that before the latest lens firmware update. It's still wobbly compared to my 200mm f2.8, but it shouldn't jump like that.

[@Weechoo]

I think the new firmwares fixed it. Or maybe the new v60 sd cards, I'm still not eniterly sure. But now it's a lot better. However the Leica 50-200mm that I have stabilizes a lot better than my 100-300mm MKII. And I figured that at around 200-300mm it's better NOT to use IS Boost because it makes the video very jumpy, it's better have a nice and fluid stabilization with the standard mode.

[@raizt1596]

Noticing a jittering effect with e-stab.

[@bobbecker2046]

Excellent demo

[@Weechoo]

Thank you, I'm happy that you like it

[@Sofus.Solivagante]

Very interesting. Even though IQ difference won't be so obvious on youtube. I really don't like big cameras, especially in micro four thirds. But the G9II is very compelling. Thanks for the video.

[@Weechoo]

The difference is more obvious when the camera is set to the extremes, like 5.7K without E-stab and 4K with highes e-stab mode. If you want some uniformity in your project, even if the output is 4K only and ends up only on youtube, it might not be the best idea to mix these settings too much. Some shots might be outstanding while others just average. And what I see is that many people use codecs which are not supported very well by youtube, so after uploading they don't quite look the same. But when it's the right format even a youtube video can look amazing.

[@bruhdabones]

@@Weechoogood call.

[@MayhemJack]

I wish I could live in this video. It reminds me of Godard's "Notre Musique." I feel like he would have loved this camera.

[@JAALMARZA]

Very nice video! if you pause the video reproduction on the camera, you can save the frame like a photo, (like previous g9)?

[@Weechoo]

Thank you! I just tried it and yes you can pause it and save it as a photo. I never knew it was possible, I alwas did it on the computer. :)

[@JAALMARZA]

@@Weechoo Perfect 🙂! Thank you very much!!

[@przybylskipawel]

Well... I saw once a 5K video (5210x2880)

[@GHuser85-rp6xz]

Thank you for you video. Beautiful images. But I don't think it's possible to see the real difference in quality without cropping on the originale files. I tested the G9II this morning with E-S On and Off, I don't see too much quality difference to be honest. HOWEVER, the difference on details quality is huge between the GH5/G9 and the G9II in low light. By exemple the way the details renders on skin is really different, the G9II seems to apply some smoothing and sharpening, making the image a bit unappealing when cropping, frames look way more JPG photo quality with some NR and sharpening enabled, whereas the G9 and GH5 look more like raw photo quality (with of course more visible noise). Applying some sharpening in post make the video even worse on the G9II, like when in Lightroom, you add sharpening after using noise reduction before.

[@Weechoo]

Thank you! On a big screen I can see the difference in wider shots, not so much in close ups. There isn't a big difference when you turn on standard e-stab, however in 4K mode in High setting I can see that the image gets soft. 5.7K isn't too bad, it's just the e-stab doesn't work properly. Yes I agree about the low light. The old G9 was more like a raw photo, this one has a kind of oversharpened kind of noise. I've not done a proper comparison between them yet, I'll do that in the next couple of days. And I'm wondering if 5.7K would look less processed than 4K, I haven't tried that either.

[@jaimebenito620]

Have you tried to set the noise reduction down on the G9 ii?

[@Weechoo]

@@jaimebenito620 I always set the noise reduction and sharpness to -5 on every panasonic camera I have. I simply don't like digital sharpening on any camera at all, and the noise doesn't bother me as much as the noise reduction.

[@GHuser85-rp6xz]

@@Weechoo Yes me too, I prefer noise than noise reduction.

[@KenCoCreates]

do we have a g9ii community group chat somewhere?

[@Weechoo]

I've not found any yet, I mean what is specific to this camera. I'm just chatting on some G9, GH5, GH6 groups on facebook. Not enough people have it at the moment.

[@NetvoTV]

Should I get: A7RV + Tamron 50-400 =1.878kg, or XT5 + 18-300 (27-450) =1.177kg, or G9 II+ Leica 50-200 (100-400) =1.313kg mainly for photo, + Panasonic HC-X1500 25-600 camcorder + Zoom M3 mic for video + iPhone 15 13-52 for pocketable pic&vid? Like: A7RV: 4 ways screen, croppable XT5: dedicated dials experience G9 II: 300 fps slow motion, my favorite yellow color theme in the menu! Dislike: A7RV: not all video full sensor readout XT5: try to look like film than real life even the standard Provia G9II: potentially the side way screen for photography Uses: Document everyday, travel, KZbin, shoot video with the camera mostly when I need to, shoot SOOC JPG / HEIF mostly, personal projects include street and mall photography with full body person with blue background, all these super tele can get blur enough to achieve it? Should I get ultrawide zoom too for everyday carry or just use the iPhone? Sony 16-35 F4 PZ / 7A 9mm F5.6, Sony 10-20 F4 PZ / SIGMA 10-18 F2.8, Leica 8-18 F2.8-4 / Leica 9mm F1.7. I didn't consider smaller camera because I think better get actual pant pocketable camera like Sony RX100 series or go proper size because camera in between still need a bag to carry yet doesn't have good handling and EVF like the not much bigger size A7RV. I curious about macro and micro world, but I can just google them right as specialist will do that for us and even if I shoot, they will be more or less the same? Does magnification ratio need to multiple crop sensor ratio? If need to multiple, does the object will appear as it's true size no matter if it's full frame or MFT if the final mag ratio is 1:1? Is there a way to make the in camera JPG output colors match Hasselblad Natural Color Science of these camera? Is there a way to change the orange theme to yellow theme in Sony menu, with accessibility functions maybe? Is the Zoom M3 mic good? What's the best way to get surround sounds audio and mono shotgun when I want to? To get stereo but the sound in center screen clear, better have a 3 channels setup where 2 for stereo and 1 for mono shotgun? Or 4 channels with 2 points forward and 2 point backward? Sennheiser MKE 440 patented stereo mic marketed as it make the sound from center screen clearer, is it really only possible with it or just adjust stereo mic at that angle will get same result, that mic is just more compact and one piece V shape?

[@Weechoo]

I can't answer all of your questions because I've never had these cameras. But I just tried a Tamron 16-300 with a speedbooster on the G9 II and it wasn't a very good experience. It's not the 18-300 though. At 16mm it wasn't nice at all. It might be worth swapping lenses fo the best quality. I was thinking about the X1500 but the image quality what I saw in some youtube videos wasn't great at all, nowehere near a mirrorless camera system. Iphone is the same. Some people are gonna like it but if you've ever used a "proper" camera before, you might be disappointed. For photos these phones might be allright but for videos they suck. Every smartphone footage I saw was oversharpened, very bad looking image. And often they CAN NOT be adjusted, even with a third party app! The photo quality isn't too bad though. I've never had a full frame camera like the A7RV but it has a very big megapixel sensor. So techinaly you can crop a very good quality photo out of a 61MP image. I saw sample photos, it's incredible. For video... I just don't know. For ultrawide I'm not sure but I think I'll get the Leica 9mm f1.7 in the near future beause of it's apperature. It can be used indoors because it's that bright. I don't have it yet but it makes sense when I sometimes end up being in a church or mosque, a wide angle lens with a bright apperature would be very useful. Where I need light and wide angle too. It seems to be more useful than a 8-18 f2.8-4 for example. I don't know about mics, I don't use them. I wish smartphones were there yet but they're not. I've got the Galaxy S9 which had the best 4K video I've seen from a phone. These new generation phones came and everything went south. I don't do photos though, my experience is about videos, and with these new phones they went in a very bad direction in my opinion. I chose the G9 II because I always had Panasonic, I knew what to expect... or kind of. And with the right lens at the right situations it can do a very good job. And I don't need to carry a lot of stuff or a backpack full of lenses. It's good for photos as well as videos. To me it seems to be like the ideal compromise between all worlds if you know what I mean. But that's just my opinion.

[@don_at_large]

Nice video and presentation. The IBIS appears very good. Overall the resolution looks soft to me. Were you using a Mist filter?

[@Weechoo]

Mist filter? Does the image look that bad? :D I didn't use any filter, what you might see that the leica was wide open f2.8 at 12mm, but I'm not sure. Maybe my lenses need better cleaning. :D I agree that when I use e-stabilization, especially at high setting the image gets soft in 4K. It also might depend on where the Sun's shining from. Some shots seem to be more contrasty, therefore appear to be sharper when the Sun's behind me. For the best sharpness it's the best to turn the e-stab off in 4K. In 5.7K the standard e-stab doesn't make the image visibly softer on a 4K screen, at least with a sharp lens like the leica.

[@don_at_large]

@@Weechoo Thank you. Have noticed I believe the overall video takes on a soft effect in some modes when e-stab is used. Good work and well done presentation.

[@thomastechmenow6906]

hello, thank you very much for this superb comparison video. This is exactly the kind of video I have trouble finding on KZbin... Can you compare the autofocus and the ISO increase in low light please? This is precisely the kind of test that is missing on the platform.

[@Weechoo]

I'm glad that you like it. This kind of videos I'm trying to find as well, that's why I made it so I could help others. I'll try to do a low light comparison with the original G9 as well.