Panasonic Lumix S1 S1R review hands on impressions

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[@babyzacharias7960]

Price

[@babyzacharias7960]

Compare to sony 7s3

[@cameralabs]

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[@zenjitsuman]

Gordon, when you get a production model, please compare the color rendition using Canon RF f1.2 mounted via MC11 adapter onto the Panasonic S1, Leica SL and the Canon RF so we can know which body to mount our Leica M system lenses for best color rendition results. I would love to see how that Sigma Foveon camera compares when it comes out.

[@cameralabs]

@@zenjitsuman I think the MC11 adapts Canon EF lenses, not Canon RF mirrorless lenses.

[@reng6688]

Panasonic is definitely very serious about their 1st gen FF ILC. The refinement and features of the two S1 models literally put both Nikon Zs and Canon's EOS Rs to shame. The S1 models will give Sony a run for the money, a real competitor. At the end of the day, it's all good for consumers. Good job, Panasonic!

[@Reyfox1]

Great "1st impression" video! I do like, but not in my price range. You also have consider storage card prices and lenses. I'm happy with the G9 which has a lot of those features albeit M43, which is just fine for me. Can't wait until the full review!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@juanalvarado7794]

The m43 system has way cheaper alternatives and wayyy smaller zooomm.

[@MicroFourNerds]

The £2200 50mm f1.4 lens has actually made my eyes water. It's the only decent fast lens available at launch. And the Sony and Canon equivalents are over £1000 cheaper. I am so mad. Come on Sigma, release a nice set of affordable primes for these cameras!

[@cameralabs]

Well they already do the Sigma ART series, so expect L mount versions of those soon.

[@koolkutz7]

I agree, that price made me wince! And to think my Nikon 50mm F1.8D cost me about £100! Even if I wanted a Nikon 50mm F1.4 AF-S it would only be about £429. Let's hope Sigma do release some 'reasonably' priced lenses soon. By the way, I like your channel content-keep up the good work :-)

[@Reyfox1]

@@koolkutz7 just curious as to whether the lenses you mention will display as many megapixels as the much more expensive ones.... nothing like having a 40MP camera attached to a lens whose sharpness is not equal to the task....

[@raksh9]

Don't worry, Sigma is releasing pretty much all their Art series lenses with L mount, plus a few new L mount lenses in the future.

[@riccardoredio]

wait for mc11 EF to L ;)

[@spodzone]

Swans or ducks whatever you call them? How about geese? :P

[@ChimaChindaDev]

The build quality is exceptional. It reminds me of the Pentax K-1.

[@turnerx5]

Excellent hands on demo. People worked up about the pricing should remember that, unlike Canon or Nikon, Panasonic aggressively discounts models after introduction, so the list price in 6-8 months will not, likely, be the street price. For example the G9 is priced at $1,697, but sold for $1,400 6-8 months into its life cycle, and is now down to $1,300.

[@karlbratby4349]

Was just about to go Sony but then Panasonic go and launch what looks an amazing piece of kit, will be waiting to get my hands on this on a test day 1st, why have they stuck with only contrast detect AF though, seems an odd move or is there a technical reason Gordon ?

[@ahmonon4352]

I'm Very excited about these cameras. Their design is very well thought

[@cameralabs]

Yes, it feels good in your hands...

[@63MacGuy]

I won’t be getting one. I just hope it makes Sony get off their butts and give us a killer new A7000 & A7slll

[@paulplus3830]

So many channels pushed out a first impressions video at the same time.... But I check here first of course. :)

[@RustyZipper]

Exactly! Unbiased reviews 💯👍

[@iseewood]

I think Panasonic is in trouble unless they bring down the price. While partnering with Leica may have reduced development cost, using Leica lenses are ridiculously expensive. Standard Leica zooms are over $5k, twice as expensive as comparable Sony. Their new 50 1.4 is more expensive than the brand new Canon 50 1.2 and the bodies themselves are $500 more than comparable Sony or Nikon mirrorless cameras. Way too rich for a camera system that thus far hasn’t proven it deserves the higher price tag.

[@geforce5591]

Their lens lineup is far from ideal but it could improve substantially by release date in April, if Sigma releases a few solid, most likely, affordable primes/zooms.

[@MrRaitzi]

Good camera if don't shoot moving targets. There is no real reviews available yet until retail version are available. Videos like these are what we get for month or so. AI promise is half true but nothing that other cameras cannot offer. They can improve object recognition like Olympus does but for autofocus distance is much harder to nail. It can ball park it with AI if camera knows what lens is in use and there is familiar object to like standing person size(taking typical height of person) of which with known zoom range can be used to calculate the real distance and therefore fix the focus point range.

[@HuntaDaKilla]

As a photographer I prefer the triaxial screen. The flippy screen on my G9 is nice but annoying at times. I can see where the flippy screen is praised for video though. That being said the S1 being marketed as a hybrid camera should have had a flippy screen and the S1R should have been triaxial.

[@toosas]

wow, what a player! Leica mount, animal detect that even sony does not have yet. Insane viewfinder resolution and a dual card slot. Canon and Nikon are outclassed completely. And this is coming from a canon shooter

[@cameralabs]

And fab image stabilisation too!

[@toosas]

@@cameralabs but no phase detect? Uh oh! Not good for the price..

[@cameralabs]

@@toosas well there's pros and cons, but I do wish it had it.

[@JJ2020]

Sony does have animals eye detect already just to let you know. In the a6400 and an update will be released for the A7(R)III at the same time this camera comes out.

[@cameralabs]

@@JJ2020 yep, animal eye-detection coming to Sony soon. The Pannies here just detected the whole bodies.

[@ceddo2511]

Good review. I wish it didn't have the top screen though, I have no need for it, waste of good dial space.

[@honey4xi]

*Will Panasonic make one camera that works both Panasonic S1 & S1R for shooting photos and videos?*

[@cameralabs]

Both the S1 and S1R can take photos and videos, although as you know, the S1R is higher res for photo and the S1 is better for video. Are you asking if they will make one model that's best for BOTH? I don't know, but I think there's potential for one that's even better for video like a full-frame GH5.

[@jorgem50]

$2200 for a 50mm? F that, I'll stick with m43

[@JoeMaranophotography]

Same

[@dj.adrianbit.4730]

I own a Panasonic G9 and I wanted to go to the full frame hybrid Sony A7 III. I've been waiting to see Panasonic S1 what specifications it has and how much it costs. Disappointment, weighing double It's like a brick compared to the Sony A7 III, poor battery (half as much as Sony), the same problem hunting the back subject with autofocus contrast, 225 vs 693 (sony) focus point, is more expensive than Sony with 500$. The only advantage of Panasonic is 4k 60p considering the sony A7III is one year old on the market.

[@johnhaynes9910]

Looks like a great specification Gordon but as today is launch day, I've seen the prices, not a cheap body in either version and if you want the lenses to match, getting on to "Ouch !" values. I wish Panasonic well but really do wonder whether we are getting to a rather too crowded market especially if Canon's recent prognostications about sales volumes over the next few years prove to be true.

[@AndySnap]

Really superb cameras it would seem, as a Brit dare I say..awesome even. A very complete spec, which crushes the Nikon Z and Canon R cameras, yet the pricing is very competitive (and will no doubt drop somewhat to a post-launch 'street price'). Not that I can afford to buy one and lenses, though I am wondering if there will be a firmware upgrade for the G9 to add some S features to it's little relative...??

[@joebloggs6556]

Oh come on !…the screen doent rotate to fast the front…I'm not getting one then!

[@tebitan3780]

IBIS and weather sealing sound interesting. Video is a bit of a letdown. Was really expecting 10 bit internal 50 fps, and without paying additional money. F4 lenses available at start are also a letdown. Price is pretty bold, considering Panasonic has no experience in FF cameras. I have some money to spend this year for body and lenses, prolly not in Pana, based on what I saw until now.

[@Slayer1111111111able]

Best body design to date. There I said it. This camera has so many awesome usability features that are very very exciting. Sony still has them beat for actual sensor performance and lens selection, but who knows how long that will last. This is the most exciting full frame mirrorless of the past year no doubt.

[@cameralabs]

The design is very nice to use...

[@TomOhle1]

You sure? Sounds like a more capable sensor, processor combo here on this Panasonic... 10bit 4k internal video...

[@youknowwho9247]

How is a camera with no phase detect the most exciting option? I really don't see it. At all.

[@idontwantacallsign]

I do not agree. The a7III is the most exciting. Theese cameras are huge, heavy and way too expensive. Imagine having an a7III or RIII and a small 55 f/1.8 or a small manual ZEISS Loxia lens. They deserves to be the most exciting FF of the year.

[@justinholding02]

big question is : who is it for??

[@NSAwatchesME]

id rather get d850 best slr of all time the GOAT

[@koolkutz7]

Yep! Still the bees knees and probably one of the best cameras around still at the moment :-)

[@2473-l4b]

How is it the best if people say the auto focus is bad? I keep hearing it's the best why so?

[@youknowwho9247]

@@2473-l4b Nobody who's used a D850 says the af is bad. It's certainly better than every mirrorless camera out there, with maybe the exception of the a9.

[@2473-l4b]

@@youknowwho9247 I seen a KZbin video showing it's wasn't good, that weird. I'm waiting for the A7SIII it's like they won't put a flip screen on the cameras. This gonna be my first camera I been waiting about a year n half for a camera, N I want it to have 4k 60p 10bit with a decent af full frame no crop. I was gonna get the 1dx but the files can be big and dey crop the screen. I never had a camera I just been looking for over a year, want hybrid camera.

[@mikelm222]

Geese :-)

[@grandadan]

Fantastic camera it could be If it's screen were a swivel one. I like almost everything on it but that screen is just a joke. Value zero.

[@PaulBawby]

Excellent video as always, packed with very useful information. Looking forward to your evaluation of image quality, autofocus and other topics on a production model. 👍👍

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, me too!

[@DonJ7]

Panasonic is getting better! I mean Stabilization wise is insane! Hopefully, Sony can come out more features and even insane spec with their A7SIII to compete this Lumix. Or else, I might switch to Lumix soon.

[@cameralabs]

Yes, the stabilisation is really good...

[@kentmemories]

The highly capable beast

[@cameralabs]

And that's just me...

[@martysender5539]

same problem as gh5...AUTOFOCUS unreliability. doesnt matter all the new stuff if the camera is 'unsure' about AF. Panasonic has yet to fix the basic problem. its a DEAL BREAKER

[@Vikingdescendent]

Your reviews are as good as having the camera in hand. Good job!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, that's my goal!

[@Marty4650]

I really had my doubts that Panasonic could break into a crowded full frame market. How could they possibly do it any better than their competitors? Well, they set themselves apart by providing better ergonomics, quite a few a few exciting new features, and a strong partnership that will provide in a steady flow of excellent lenses. At this point, Canon and Nikon really need to up their games, and even Sony needs to start worrying. Well done, Panasonic.

[@cameralabs]

Yeah, I was impressed how much better the IBIS felt than Sony's full-framers...

[@stevelink21]

@@cameralabs Nice "intro" as always, Fordon! Being a satisfied Fuji X-T3/XF lens user myself, I have no intention of actually purchasing this (or any) FF camera/system, but I do enjoy keeping up with the industry. I also was wondering what this new FF system might do to sales of the new $3K m4/3 Oly E-M1X? As always, I'm ultimately more interested in direct image comparsions rather than "feature sets", and neither IBIS nor video interests me since I'm a 100% stills tripod-user. Thanks!

[@youknowwho9247]

Interesting how different people have different opinions. The first thing I thought when I saw this camera and the pricing was "what an unappealing, overpriced failure. Panasonic is going to crash and burn in this market". I'm curious, what is it about this camera that you like? Personally I can't get excited over a system that charges me upwards of 5k for lenses and has contrast detect af only when the rival options are cheaper and don't suffer from those flaws.

[@Marty4650]

@@youknowwho9247 Then you probably will never own a Leica! (and neither will I, for that matter). But the Panasonic S1 isn't priced very much more than a Canon EOS R. And it offers lots of features that a buyer might prefer. But lets be honest. Full frame cameras just aren't for people living on tight budgets. Even the cheapest full frame camera with just a few basic lenses will cost you several thousand dollars. So any full frame camera body that costs $500 more than the cheapest full frame camera made isn't necessarily a deal breaker for many buyers. Especially if the more expensive camera has the features and ergonomics they want.

[@idontwantacallsign]

@@Marty4650 Well the Sony a7RIII and 50 f/1.4 are 4500 $. The Pana are 6000 $. That is 1500$ and not only 500$. And that weight and size are unbearable.

[@booshipvideo5513]

Since S1R can shoot 6k I would like to ask: if I shoot video /picture without zooming with 6k and crop later, is the quality same as those non-6k shoot with zoom in 100mm or 200mm?

[@IslandFilmMaker]

I haven't seen anything on KZbin honesty that shows me why I would buy the S1 FF camera. I cannot see the value in either S1 & S1r! Starting at $3,200 CAN body only! Is the AF truly improved? Face detect? No articulating LCD screen? Then another $3,300 CAN for a nifty fifty 1.4 lens! WTF Panasonic,,, you could do better! Oh well, I'm going to pass, maybe next time.

[@FRANKRICECOLD209]

The Panasonic S1 60p Limitations / Specs Suck There is a Recording Time Limit and a Crop With 60p it's Disappointing especially with the Higher Price i Was Looking Forward To Full Frame 60p i Would Be Surprised if this Camera Sells a Lot Of Units O Well i Will Pass

[@Marcus-ll2bt]

Maybe I’ve been spoiled by Fuji’s industrial design but I really don’t like the design of this camera. The Casio style LCD looks archaic( consumes less power but it looks archaic) and the Nikon sequel top design with the mode dial just doesn’t draw me in. I owned a D7200 before and it’s design left a lot to desire but it was a good camera. I still think the S1 and S1R will be great cameras but I’m just not a fan of the industrial design.

[@obayedh]

Failed to excite me! Sorry!!

[@HusseinKefel]

Hi Gordon, these new Panasonic models look great performance wise especially with the Image Stabilization. Thanks Gordon for this awesome video as usual

[@cameralabs]

thanks! the IS is the best I've seen on full frames!

[@HusseinKefel]

@@cameralabs Hi Gordon, glad to know that from you and I'm impressed by the video sharpness and colors as well. Many thanks Gordon for all the good efforts, you are the best! keep it up

[@maxsr3236]

Would be nice to know, if DFD will be available for Sigma lenses or if they make you buy their own lenses to get the best possible autofocus like they did with micro 4/3. Did anyone mention anything about that?

[@cameralabs]

We're all wondering too how well the Sigma lenses will perform. Hopefully not too long to find out.

[@koolkutz7]

Good point. I know that if you use an Olympus lens on a Panasonic MFT body it loses the DFD autofocus and reverts to standard contrast detect. We are waiting Sigma...

[@Combatpzman]

Please camera makers, stop putting two different memory card types in one camera, pick one or the other. It’s annoying to carry two different card types.

[@uncoy]

Relatively cheap SD cards for most work. The more expensive XQFCD (close but no cigar) are for 4K 4:2:2 10 bit video which is coming. Or for nearly unlimited burst (not my cup of tea but could be useful for filmmaking).

[@villemononen5303]

REALLY impressive! It seems Panasonic is just building up on their GH5 / GH5s / G9 upswing expertise, taking that knowledge to FF territory and really going out all guns blazing! No holding back, and it think it'll serve them well. Very promising, and i can only expect the rugged true good Panasonic experience.

[@xtazysv]

no holding back... except for payed 10bit and that 60p crop in 4k. They are not holding back on prices though

[@clifftotten7609]

Nice Job. Very nice - One question, the the S1 have the option to pull pack on the noise reduction like the GH5/GH5-S? (NR +/-) On my GH5 I pull back all the NR because post NR is was more surgical and accurate than real-time, in-camera NR. Thanks!

[@cameralabs]

I think I remember seeing NR adjustments in the menus, but will confirm when I retest.

[@EDHBlvd]

Why on earth did they keep that dreaded DFD contrast only AF system? Awful for an otherwise impressive bit of kit.

[@CaptainCreosoteRN]

Look like great cameras but they will have to re-align on those lens prices, maybe when Sigma shows us what they are going to bring to the party it will become more enticing.

[@cameralabs]

I look forward to Sigma doing all their ART lenses in L mount. But I wonder what the focus will be like...

[@billmoyer3254]

it is as if camera makers are sealing their fate with grossly overpriced products.

[@EnterSpacebar]

Lack of PDAF and those prices: the two things that'll not let this system become a success they're hoping it will. Those prices are ridiculous, almost like a Leica hangover!

[@allencrider]

I'll never buy one. I'm not that wealthy and I don't need it for my work.

[@realpokski]

I'm not sure if you mentioned it, but is this a preproduction model?

[@schadowization]

Yes it is. (Mentioned twice)

[@_rhapsodist]

the IBIS is not bad at all!!

[@cameralabs]

Anecdotally, it felt to me the best IBIS on a full-frame system

[@ChimaChindaDev]

It’s excellent!

[@weedylock]

I have sony a7||| so i think ill wait a couple of years for the prices to go down and more lense choice but i do like the specs and looks of the camera.

[@JamesBenet]

These are very nice but the real deal will be an a7s II competitor with about 12MP and dual ISO capabilities on FF. It could become the king of low light plus having all of the Panasonic video goodness. The lack of phase points is IMO a big fail again, the DfD algos simply can't compete no matter what they try!

[@dsu2002]

Their Achilles heel is the slower Contrast Detection Auto-Focus (and lack of cheap primes and f2.8 zooms, which they might release later; Sigma might help). All other features appear to outclass Nikon and Canon mirrorless.

[@emadnejati7620]

the body doesn't matter, Eye is important sony cameras detecting face for almost 10 years but everyone knows it's not enough when camera detect face but focus on the nose!!! I hope to see a proper face AF but after all these cameras are expensive weak battery life,2400$ for the 24mp model and ridiculous price for that 50mm f1.4

[@cameralabs]

It does human eye detection as well.

[@chrisvan6951]

Why would they not want you to discuss image quality? That would be the ultimate reason anyone would want to buy any camera. If it’s not ready, don’t have “testers” test and comment at all. I think the Lumix line has a wonderful menu system (for those new to mirrorless) and will at some point be a great contender. However, everyone is playing catch-up with Sony. All three of the latest mirrorless systems have had some major problems with early releases. While they learn, Sony advances. No matter what happens we all benefit from the fierce competition.

[@cameralabs]

Pretty much all companies do this, they release pre-production samples so we can start talking about them, but also getting to know their features, handling etc.

[@stufftosee1746]

If they had put phase detect instead of insisting on the already proven rubbish dfd system then they could have charged whatever they wanted and sold the living daylights out of this. Everything about the GH5 is epic apart from the autofocus and high iso. This was there chance to obliterate the competition but I’m afraid they won’t sell as many as they could have. And as for their glass... you can pay 2300 smackers for a 50mm 1.4 or go pay Leica tax. I bet sigma just use there existing line up and build the flange distance into the back of their lenses like they did with the E mount versions. Having said this I’m still going to buy it 😂

[@cameralabs]

Yes, I think Sigma will just adapt their existing ART lenses, and they're great, although I wonder how well they'll focus. And yes, I agree, if it had PDAF, it would have been wonderful!

[@azaitsev]

Thanks Gordon, -- any perceptible lag on the EVF as you take photos of fast-moving subjects? Thanks!

[@cameralabs]

It felt pretty good to me, but then I'm used to EVFs nowadays.

[@davidemarranon]

Great camer but damn! The tiltable screen! Was the only thing I love about panasonic! I can't believe the removed it! In 2019 it must be an assential thing in every camera!

[@cameralabs]

I hear ya! But they say they did it for robustness reasons.

[@iSirTaki]

@@cameralabs they may say, but i doubt that, a G9 with flippy screen is robust as hell

[@MichaelRichards983]

The flippy screen could also be 'robust' - without this feature, the camera isn't a purchase for me and many others.

[@cameralabs]

@@iSirTaki I know,. I have a G9 and have never broken a flip screen in my life.

[@cameralabs]

@@MichaelRichards983 I agree, me too.

[@mikewhiles4635]

A massive nail in the coffin of Olympus. Also will Mr and Mrs Tony attack its large lcd top display? No, of course not it's not a Canon. Great review of what is the first entry into what should be a very good camera system.

[@youknowwho9247]

They actually did criticize the camera for its top LCD and a myriad of other flaws.

[@cactustweeter2890]

Gordon you rock. You say right up front you're working with a preproduction camera and performance may not be reflective of the final product. I just watched another KZbinr comparing performance of this camera to another production released camera and making claims that were ridiculous.

[@r2stik]

taking pictures with LEFT EYE/NOSETIP ON TOUCH SCREEN? FZ1000 II

[@cameralabs]

Too much shooting with capitals, I don't know what you're asking.

[@hVF8KZuQPeCc8u]

I have to keep in mind, this is Panasonic's FF inauguration. I wish them well. Hopefully, affordable lenses are soon available. Otherwise, the price tag is beyond the typical photo enthusiast's affordability level. Have to say, I find your camera reviews so very helpful. Sort of meat and potatoes (substance) without the frills. Thanks much!

[@PeterMKent]

I like Chris and Jordan but man they're everywhere now, spreading like the common cold they've infected almost every camera video.

[@voyageruno8938]

Ok ok...I got the message about the camera, but the real question is another one. How can you not know the difference between a swan and a duck? Cmon. That's common knowledge.

[@cameralabs]

to be fair, I recorded the voiceover for that segment without the clip playing in front of me, so I couldn't quite remember what kind of birds they were.

[@voyageruno8938]

Note: That hi-res "Panasonic" EVF is Sony made and will come on next Sony models. Don't get too excited about it.

[@cameralabs]

I'm not sure who made the panel in question, but yes, I expect it will be deployed on all higher-end mirrorless cameras this year.

[@ablowick]

Thanks, Gordon -all bases covered as always - My twopence is this is an obese Panny G9 (which I own as well as the G85 and both are beyond awesome btw) with some backlit buttons and (minus the hugely useful flip out screen) a larger sensor. Can anyone point out to me the value proposition here or have I missed something?

[@yukonchris]

I had great hopes for these cameras. I was pretty sure that Panasonic would nail all the features that Canon and Nikon didn't, and that appears to be the case. That said, the pricing of the bodies, and the lenses, seems somewhat stratospheric. The overall effect, was to put me off. Now I'm looking with renewed interest in the Canon EOS R, and even the Olympus E-M1X, both of those, simply because I am already invested in the systems, and thus, would realize a huge savings over these new Panasonic models. Frankly, just waiting might be the best strategy, as I can't imagine the prices staying this high for long.

[@FoodTechLife]

Looks great but way out of my budget 🤣

[@koolkutz7]

And mine sadly!

[@youknowwho9247]

Out of any sensible person's budget really, considering that even Sony's gm lenses look cheap by comparison.

[@Marticulate]

I think what a lot of people wanted was just a FF GH5. The ergonomics for still and video on that camera are second to none in my opinion. I was excited about this camera but the lack of a fully articulating screen is disappointing and I'd much rather more dials than that lcd. It's also the ugliest camera on the market. I'll be sticking with micro four thirds for the moment.

[@马k]

Where is the S-1 manufactured?

[@ChimaChindaDev]

2:29 The ibis is excellent. Now they need to just drop the price and make sure video auto focus is great and it will be the perfect camera (I don’t like flip screens so I’m happy with what it has)

[@ravibindra565]

"inherited the L-mount from Leica" ... Has Leica died? Maybe they licensed it :)

[@cameralabs]

that's a fair comment! I recorded the audio in one-take and as I said inherited, I did think it's perhaps not the best word.

[@JaJaHead]

Current MFT shooter here. Have they mentioned if these cameras will be compatible with existing Lumix line of TTL flashes?

[@Stephanie-dl3ry]

Surely obsolete already without a BSI and PD sensor?

[@bonedface]

Everything is good, but without a fully flippy screen, camera conspiracy will be angry

[@jaspergoodall3206]

How come every S1 review tests the A.I. Focus on the same geese? Mysterious. Goose detect AF 😆

[@cameralabs]

Because I took Chris and Jordan and Ev and Dave out for a walking tour around Barcelona, and at one of the Cathedral gardens they have geese. So you'll see them in three videos, but probably no more. Those are Chris's fingers in my video.

[@Matwiej19]

Nearly perfect camera. But why they have used this screen instead of the fully articulated?

[@cameralabs]

I know, I wish it was a flippy.

[@KIRPODCASTPLAYS]

Looks good

[@Photo-ms1mo]

Listen Pentax - wake up!!!

[@chunstudio7863]

cool!

[@ernreeders5583]

Re the VF - 0.78x FF is going to be bigger than say 0.83x M43.

[@cameralabs]

No, they've already factored in the sensor format, so 0.83x G9 is bigger than 0.78x here. But not by much.

[@tomaszstramel3594]

Looked like good old geese to me :-).

[@Oculus729]

Thank you for this hands on. Imagine if Nikon would have made their Z series of this quality and feature set. I did notice some flicker in the video - that is a bit troubling. I am not scared by the price - over the long haul the price will be forgotten. We need a lens road map.........particularly long, super-tele glass. Again, than you.

[@MichaelSchagen]

I think that was the high framerate shots (180 fps)? under artificial lighting (50hz). Flicker is unavoidable under these conditions.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks! And as the other reply says, the flicker you saw may have been the 180fps mode interfering with 50hz lighting.

[@jay4627]

I love how Panasonic is establishing the S line as a true high end pro line, which completely removes any doubt about eliminating MFT.

[@Maxhuertas]

Nice camera but expensive but I’m happy with my Sony a6300

[@frankluo230]

Vlogging outside with this monster body plus a heavy sigma art lens on a gimbal is a proper workout. This is not an amateur camera that's for sure. So the question is, for people already in other systems, why jump to S1R or L mount alliance? It is a very thought after product with no major flaw apart from the weight however lacks a hero feature or two to stand out among vastly more mature competition.

[@cameralabs]

I think the viewfinder, IBIS, backlit controls, big battery, nice ergonomics, super high-res mode and 4k 60p are the highlights.

[@frankluo230]

@@cameralabs super nice to have the above bar from 4k60, but I bet hardly any pro users gonna jump brand because of those. 4k60, S1R huge limitation, S1 great, still not enough. Especially the auto focus tracking capability under 4k60 is yet to be proven. It is a tough market to enter and as much as I admire Panasonic's bravery here, I don't think S1/S1R are going to be as successful as GH5/GH5s. Who knows if Panasonic has the determination and funding to launch successor model after model until maturity to finally establish themselves like Sony today.

[@wilbuzllf5057]

Tempted, very tempted. But it's between this and the Nikon Z when I change from Olympus soon and I just can't decide. Larger, more expensive, better ergonomics but heavier, with a still quite uncertain road map for long wildlife lenses. Or lighter, less features and less pushing of new technology but with an already good system around it with small, long PF lenses (though adapted). The Nikon Z with their small new excellent zooms look really good. But so does this, and nobody does menus and touch screen functionality like Panasonic, or single point AF speed for that matter. Oh so hard. Thanks for an excellent first hands on. May I ask, in your final review, and the one on your page, could you compare it side by side with some smaller cameras? m43 G9, E-M1 Mk II, Nikon Z, Sony A7 series or DSLR (what ever you have, if you have anything to compare it with) including some lenses? Thanks again! /Rasmus

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, yes I hope to compare it against a lot of options, including thee G9.

[@TonyAndChelsea]

Great review, Gordon!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@JoeMaranophotography]

@@cameralabs Just don't make any M43 videos 🤣

[@sosomelodies659]

Why does it utilize a 1980"s top LCD? Flip screen came off of Fuji XT3? EVF is hi-res but it's noticebly small? Contrast detection AF doesn't look ground-breaking. Ergonomics looks good. Glowing buttons is a nice feature. Touch screen looks responsive. Excellent choice of battery. Hi-res photo capture lis really interesting. All in all the S1 should be a $2,000 camera.

[@cameralabs]

It may settle at that price, who knows?

[@apyncho8389]

Are you sure 4k is APSC on the S1? Other sources have not mentioned this, but it could be a deal-breaker

[@cameralabs]

4k at 30p is full frame on S1 but on my sample was APSC in 4k 60p

[@apyncho8389]

Gordon Laing thanks for clarifying! Is it likelu that 4k/50 full frame will be part of the apparent paid upgrade that includes 10 bit?

[@Photo-ms1mo]

Oh yeah, forgot that Pentax isn't fallowing the crowds😉

[@Astrolavista]

Some really great features, I love the EVF. However, no flippy screen due to increasing robustness? How many of us have broken a flippy screen? And the big thing for me - they are still using contrast detect on a full frame sensor? I could understand this on M43 because they had to, but on FF? I've just sold my G80 because I couldn't cope with the poor contrast detection AF. A long awaited camera, but not for me sadly.

[@davidcurtiswatts2378]

Geese methinks.

[@thegreatvanziniphotos5976]

Great overview. Is this the one that will have 6k burst w 18 mp stills? I mentioned in another vid something like,,, The future is bright or the end is near.

[@thegreatvanziniphotos5976]

Youch! I hadn't got to the price part yet.

[@cameralabs]

Yes, it'll do 4k and 6k photo modes.

[@1fareast14]

I'm shocked to see improvement in rated IS for a full-frame model, but the actual performance in video is jerkier than I'd like. Shame to see a full photo-focused screen mechanism. Would it really have been so catastrophic to use the fuji xt100 mechanism, so there's both tilt and flip-forward functionality? 7:26 ughh... nickel-and-diming for features the fuji xt-3 already has (not a fuji user btw) nice to see usb power while running 10:21 argh no full frame 4k60, odd to see a time limit for 4k60 when the better way to handle it would be an overheating warning As I feared, Panasonic don't seem to want to go all-out on video features on the S series

[@cameralabs]

I thought the IS was very good. Remember I do shake quite a lot and I wasn't holding the camera comfortably either.

[@1fareast14]

@@cameralabs Hmm, I thought the footage looked smooth in general, but the cadence looked a bit jerky in places. Kind of like a pan with a video head that's gotten sticky. My guess is that the sensor reaches the end of its travel and has to reset. Maybe I should rewatch a sample from the G9. Thanks for the video!

[@cameralabs]

@@1fareast14 I agree, but my sloppy handheld technique is also to blame! Most people would probably end up with better-looking results for video.

[@mikldude9376]

Some cool features on those cameras , The high res 5k screen looks really good , But ... i do wonder if it may impact the battery ?

[@nikonmark37814]

The body looks like a cross between Canon and NIkon.

[@cameralabs]

I think it's distinctly Panasonic!

[@greglenthall3697]

Panasonic is flying now, S1R here i come.

[@youknowwho9247]

I really don't understand why you'd buy a system that's worse in virtually every aspect than the competition, yet more expensive. I'm curious what exactly it is about this camera that excites people other than the brand name.

[@Vrzalik81]

I don´t understand why not 4K60fps internal in ProRess RAW or BlackMagic RAW. :-( Why not in these superb quality formats for postproduction and editing? Thermal issue? Can I expect them in any firmware? Panasonic S1 is not cheap camera. I would expect that such a quite expensive camera is able to record in these formats in 2019.

[@武彦涼太]

Panasonic already has its own line up camera that can process 4K60p RAW, EVA1 lmao