Panasonic Lumix S1 S1R movies IN-DEPTH quality, AF, IS review

In-depth review of the movie modes on the Lumix S1 and S1R. NB: there is 1080 24p in AVCHD.
Check prices at B&H: bhpho.to/2MORySo
Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs
Gordon's In Camera book at Amazon: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ
Like Cameralabs? Get the T-Shirt: redbubble.com/people/camerala...
05:49 - Lumix S1 1080p quality results
07:14 - Lumix S1 4k quality results
08:44 - Lumix S1R 1080p and 4k quality results
10:55 - Slow motion video
11:34 - Rolling shutter tests
12:19 - Stabilisation tests
13:13 - Autofocus tests
16:25 - Vlogging test
18:46 - All-round video tests
20:31 - Final verdict

[@thatjordandrake]

This was an absolutely fantastic video Gordon! Lots of well thought out, practical examples and well thought our conclusions.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks Jordan, that means a lot from you!

[@bobhanuman65]

I love this camera. The usability is superb. And the ability to use the XLR hot shoe adapter is wonderful. It is the only full frame camera for unlimited recording in 4k extreme low light with no external recorder. The 70-200 lens is amazing but 24-105 also very nice. I'll be shooting more video and some studio portraits this week. Very very happy with it.

[@m0nztam0nk]

Gordon you ma boy! :) .... your reviews are always the best as they really go in depth! Really appreciate your effort with putting the different crops matched side to side, SUPERHELPFUL!

[@cameralabs]

You're very welcome!

[@Reyfox1]

Out of my price range. I have grown to really like Panasonic M43 cameras. The weight and size I really like. I also like the 4K video and still images. Love the G9. I've used both manual and auto focus and am happy. The IBIS is great. It does all I want. But as always, I love your camera reviews. Hands on and honest.

[@rajajinnah6749]

Was waiting for this 2nd part for the last 2 or 3 weeks. Finally!!! LET ME GO GRAB A CUP OF COFFEE ❤

[@cameralabs]

Coffee is mandatory for all viewers!

[@raredreamfootage]

This is the best video review I've ever seen!! THANKS!!!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks! I appreciate you saying that! I hope you get a chance to check out my other videos too...

[@mmp46]

Absolutely Fantastic! This is not just a review, this is a Complete Story about the Lumix S1 and S1R. 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

[@weridpanthegeek]

Thanks for making this. I cant wait to watch this once im done with university work

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome! It'll hopefully be available in full quality by then!

[@cameralabs]

In-depth review of the movie capabilities of the Lumix S1 / S1R. NB: there is 1080 24p in AVCHD. Check prices at B&H: bhpho.to/2MORySo Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs Gordon's In Camera book at Amazon: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ 05:49 - Lumix S1 1080p quality results 07:14 - Lumix S1 4k quality results 08:44 - Lumix S1R 1080p and 4k quality results 10:55 - Slow motion video 11:34 - Rolling shutter tests 12:19 - Stabilisation tests 13:13 - Autofocus tests 16:25 - Vlogging test 18:46 - All-round video tests 20:31 - Final verdict

[@AxelFoley-sb5re]

I really like this camera I know people talk about it being heavy but I like that. And I think it’s good for video!

[@Noealz]

always nicely in depth : )

[@fiddlegrass]

Another awesome review, Gordon! You deserve more subscribers!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks! I know, why are so many people resisting my charms!

[@avenegas0691]

Very detailed and accurate Review... Five Star rating !!!

[@cameralabs]

Why thankyou!

[@parmanduke]

I recently picked this camera up for $1250 with very low shutter. Omg!!! The sooc as well as raws are some of the best I’ve ever seen and I’ve shot with the A7Riv, R6ii, A7iv, as well as X T5 and XH2s. I’m blown away by the colors and overall rendition. Sooc video is amazing too. Everything about this camera has blown me away. The af is much better than what some others were reporting. Low light it’s fantastic too. Some have compared this to a Leica SL2 and I can see why. They have very similar specs like the high output photos have the same mp count.

[@raredreamfootage]

When the rear LCD's brightness is set to the brightest setting, does it automatically dim?

[@kuau714]

Gordon are you goin got retest with the newer 1.2 FW and the VLOG upgrade which is still available for free

[@Featherlightstudio]

Great and unbiased review, thank you Gordon! I love the S1's rich feature set and build quality and wanted very much to buy this camera but, the more I had hands on experience with the S1, the more I came to realize that there are some video related features I just cant live without. ( full manual control in high frame rates, slow motion that allows you the choice of conforming or not, 24p 4k, the possibility of 10 bit or even raw, ect ) As a future film maker / videographer, I care much less about the 4k60, if the camera has great quality high frame rate 1080p, and much more about the actual quality of the footage and its ability to be graded later. But I also have to be able to afford the tools I need to work with and this is an expensive, albeit capable, piece of kit!! For the camera body and the kit lens its currently 3400.00 here in the States. For a 1000.00 dollars less, I can get most of the S1's features in the Nikon Z6 with more dependable auto-focus even before the upcoming firmware. And 10bit into the Ninja V. And then later, the very real possibility of shooting ProRez Raw with this much cheaper camera!. I love the Panasonic and its wonderful build quality and video features.....but I'm not sure I love it ....$1000.00 more even if your getting a longer lens and a few extra features and minus a few compared to other cameras. For the difference, I could be MOST of the way to buying a BMPCC4K ....and then get a Nikon Z6 and literally have the very best of everything! When we are talking the kind of price tags this camera and it's lens lineup cost, the alternatives out there are very hard to ignore.

[@cameralabs]

I agree. We all have to weigh up the prices and feature sets closely. I have a feeling the July firmware update will include more than just 10 bit and v-log, but I really hope they consider making it free, especially as a light version of v-log is now on the Lumix G90.

[@valentinbusuioc4054]

good video, as always! thank you! I am considering S1R for an upgrade to FF next year :)

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome!

[@davec9960]

What an amazing in depth description. I'm so glad I was able to watch this and help build my confidence to purchase this! I'm going to subscribe to you now! Thank you.

[@Algerie.Football.Officiel]

Can the panasonic S1r produce great sports photos? what is the best mode to use with this camera in action shots, thanks

[@evenaicantfigurethisout]

Apart from the 4k crop and record limit is there any other difference between the s1 and s1r's video mode? Can they both do 422 10 bit and hlg with the latest firmware update?

[@ithilienmedia]

Hello there! Does S1R make interlaced video? If does, can you explain in which quality? Thanks a lot. Peter.

[@reludennis]

S1 is a video monster...and now with the ff sensor it is good enough for pictures too...so a good competitor for Sony. Canikon sales are down...so more room for Panasonic and Fuji to sell. I switched to Fuji and I am happier than ever with my updated firmware xh1 for less than $1000. Great movie ibis and amazing colors for pictures...the true hibrid camera I waited 2 decades to arrive...Fuji xh1...

[@keithgoreham1463]

rdennis Fuji is really on a tear, and after the Bulk of the L-Mount lenses hit later this year, I expect the market leaders in 2 years time will be Sony, Fuji, and Panasonic. While Canon and Nikon waste away.

[@reludennis]

@@keithgoreham1463 hard to say.i know canon has some ridiculous 200 megapixel sensors they sneak peek once in a while but they are tripping on their own feet by handicapping their own consumer level cameras to protect the higher end pro cameras and video cameras.

[@henryzhang9915]

This is hard work, great review.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, I spent a while on this one!

[@nicholashoffman7469]

I ordered this camera yesterday from B&H, because I have about 15 Canon L series lenses...and now I can use them all on the sigma adaptor! I'll shoot some tests and post?

[@vhc7764]

Another wonderful review...Thank you Gordon. So, my question: Does Panasonic plan a S1/S1R firmware update for the CF Express card? One company has driven XQD prices through the roof at the expense of Nikon and now Panasonic XQD users. CF Express prices are comparable, but CF Express is about 4times the speed of XQD...plus CF E is backwards compatible. Most importantly, one company will not corner the market so prices should be competitive. Problem is S1H can't be converted with SD card slots :[...same with Sony, Fuji, Canon, etc.

[@Photographicelements]

Great video! You’re right, the S1 should hv a flip-out screen like the GH5, especially at this price point; it would have been the perfect hybrid camera. The contrast auto focus is the best contrast AF I’ve seen. It seems better than the EOS R, (which isn’t the best dual-pixel AF, but it’s better with the firmware update?). That would be interesting if Panasonic has yet to release a S1s video-centric camera, 6k? RAW? EVA2 8k? Hoping the S1 gets false color & waveform. Also, an anti-flickering mode would be nice, instead of fiddling with shutter speed & frequency. I hope the color science has improved from the GH5. Panasonic has really pushed the envelop in technology with the S1 & S1R, so glad they continue to make breakthroughs and put so much into each camera.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

[@bogdanspineanu]

Really nice review.

[@blakeprojectsfilms]

Quality review, thank you

[@KrisCortez]

Looking to use this camera for a wedding video shoot. I feel pretty confident about it now after watching this video.

[@SonNguyenOfficialchannel]

pls do the 2021 version with S1R, after firmware 1.7 is out. with newest firmware, s1r still have record time limited ? thank you so much, love the video.

[@ILIYANOVIKOV]

thank you very much for such detailed review ! It is very important and useful information !)

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, glad you liked it!

[@DanLaDue]

does it seem like it auto exposes in movie mode? i can't figure it out but i seem to get some auto exposing..and in high speed i can't change the exposure at all. any leads?

[@TheOneMonk]

Again a great revue, Gordon. I spent the morning reading your book, then I went out on an autumn walk with my G9, and now I am watching your reviews: What a nice lazy Sunday 😀. Question: Is there a chance you could do an update of your S1 reviews, this time with the latest firmware 1.2 and the Vlog upgrade? I think quite a lot of release-day reviews weren‘t very balanced, especially those jumping on video CAF issues, despite it being an early firmware version. Your revue is very balanced, as always, but I feel the latest S1 upgrades are worthwhile taking a deeper look. What do you think?

[@cameralabs]

An excellent way to spend the day! I was shooting with my G9 today too!

[@TheOneMonk]

Gordon Laing I guess you will like these upgrades for the G9 : kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGHVoKJ-g5mYorM

[@evenaicantfigurethisout]

s1 vs g9 which one's better for video? can the ibis of the s1 keep up with that of the g9?

[@reludennis]

Gordon is back! Yeah!

[@cameralabs]

I post most Mondays nowadays!

[@JanSur]

Hi, thanks for video. Do you think will fullhd on S1 look better with 10bit upgrade and higher bitrate?

[@cameralabs]

Yes if you grade your footage heavily.

[@wilkbor]

Thanks for the video, Gordon. I think Panasonic has come out with one or more firmware upgrades since this video was completed and I am curious what difference those upgrades have made.

[@cameralabs]

Me too! I'd say the first port of call is the S5 which has more recent updates already applied, which have since made it to the S1 and S1R.

[@OzzieTech]

Great video as always mate. This is def a camera I am very interested in getting though more so for Photo's than Video.

[@cameralabs]

You're welcome! Hope you saw my main review video too...

[@OzzieTech]

@@cameralabs yes watched that one too

[@Jazzmarcel]

Great video!......... As usual! 😎👍🏾 I just saw a sample video of the S1h and the quality seemed surreal! Do you think the s1 quality is worth doing it you were looking for best quality for around 4 thousand?

[@cameralabs]

It's definitely one of the best-looking video options at the price.

[@fxprocc]

The focus works perfectly if once the camera locks on a target, you click the joystick to confirm. once that is done. it stays lock on the subject.

[@davidp158]

Great review, as always. As a long time GH series videographer, I have often wanted a Super35 or FF version of these cameras. The S1 is a huge step in the right direction, but I am inclined to hold off until I see the prices of Sigma's lenses and fixes for their reportedly flawed adapter. I can justify the cost of the S1 body, but only if I am not forced to abandon my inventory of FF lenses. Yes, I realize native lenses will always perform better than adapted lenses, but I just won't start over with a gaggle of new lenses to adopt the S1 body. That said, I'm glad to see Panasonic moving in this direction. I am also curious to see how the S1 film maker firmware update fares. Exciting times to be a film maker.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, and yes it certainly is an exciting time! Have you seen the most recent S1H announcement? www.cameralabs.com/panasonic-lumix-s1h-review/

[@GarretGrayCamera]

That APS-C test for 1080 didn't look so hot. I was hoping to use the APS-C crop mode alot with this camera if I got it because those are the lenses I have.

[@GregThurtle]

Great review as always- good to see video-centric review too. As a user of the GH cameras it's good that this is a full frame version - albiet with some bits missing out (GS series as you say maybe?) The clips look good to me - more confident than the m43 bodies - wonder if DFD works better on full frame with narrower DoF?(thats a guess) - wonder if this will come to the other bodies - especially the linear focus modes for focus pulling by hand Lastly - did I miss steven seagull this time? :D

[@cameralabs]

Thanks Greg, Steven Seagull is an ever-present danger around Brighton...

[@tazfrase7045]

Dang, in the guitar shop that AF was on point.

[@cameralabs]

It's pretty good isn't it? Makes to think again about DFD, at least on this model.

[@mmp46]

Confused between Nikon Z6, Canon Eos R and Lumix S1. Photography is my Concern. Which one is Good for me! I don't change Cameras often!

[@alexsystems2001]

I took my S1H out after dark today to get some photos and video, the AF is pretty sad in low light for videos, the photos worked pretty good though.

[@thomaslarmit6434]

So theres no V-log available in the 4K 50fps mode internally?

[@simonstevens1631]

Nice explanation of the video modes. Very helpful. But on My camera has only 4 video specs and frame rates. Two 4k and 2 fhd. 30 and 60 fps. I have 6 in slow motion. Ive updated the camera to version 2.0 firmware. Has your camera had the paid upgrade?

[@cameralabs]

I honestly can't remember, this was years ago.

[@simonstevens1631]

@@cameralabs ok. Thanks

[@HuntaDaKilla]

I think the autofocus is good enough for real world usage. Not spot on in some areas like Sony, but people usually do tests that are not going to be applied in real world. DFD is dumped on worse than it should be. I think if Panasonic does perfect DFD, it will be the best autofocus system on the market. I think it requires faster processors, so as tech improves we should see better results. I am surprised that this camera is not getting the hype from You Tubers as did Sony. The quality and ISO is amazing on this camera. There was so much hype and presentation about how Sony was the low ISO king, and every You tuber talking about ISO and dynamic range. There is not much out there about this camera. Thanks for your review.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, glad you liked it. I feel it's important to cut through any hype and marketing, as well as preconceptions from other reports or previous models. You simply have to test each new camera afresh and see how it performs. As I said in the video, I was impressed overall by the S1 and S1R and felt the DFD did a great job in many situations.

[@keithgoreham1463]

Honestly, unless you’re shooting sports, or fast-moving action at weddings, the autofocus is fine. You have to get used to the system’s AF quirks to get the best results, but the camera’s other features more than make up for that.

[@BrettHoustonTube]

Thanks for the info! Great clip. Yeah the lack of a fully articulating screen is a weak point. Such a disappointment coming from the amazing little GH5. I need the screen to set up shots in tight areas using motion control systems. And setting up shots without a stand in... Lumix really needs to create one camera that can do both still and video well. The R5c is paving the way, as they fall behind.

[@AndySnap]

Astounding what some video makers are expecting the camera to do for them... Amazing that technology is so good really, basically all just for KZbin people. This is surely the best hybrid stills & video camera on the market right now. And as you suggest Gordon, I'm pretty sure we'll see the Lumix full frame range expand, so a 'SH-1' video centric camera, and a smaller bodied (maybe rangefinder styled) 'SX' pro-sumer camera would be safe bets for the future I reckon. Why launch a new product system with only one camera with different resolution sensors..?

[@cameralabs]

To be fair, the twin bodies with different resolutions approach worked for Sony and Nikon, so I guess that's why they did it too!

[@momchilyordanov8190]

Very good review. Remember the time, not so long ago, when one of the main advantages of mirrorless was compact size? Welcome Pana S1 :)

[@cameralabs]

I still love small cameras, but it transpires lots of people don't!

[@momchilyordanov8190]

People want impossible things, imo. "I want a big sensor. And IBIS. And to be compact!" Well, it won't be. Nor the lenses for the big sensor will. Pick your poison is the name of the game :)

[@keithgoreham1463]

People who want compact size (until the much heavier lenses are added) can always buy a Sony. The S-Series is for those of us who want a big, professional body that doesn’t suffer from heat dissipation issues.

[@TheSentissimo]

Thank you for this, for me - best review out there yet. I was swaying between A7III and S1 but I'm set on S1 now. For some reason (where I'm from) with "release promotion" applied to S1 it's exactly the same price for both. Good thing to note is that B&H photo added Sigma lenses to their website for pre-order so I'm guessing they are right around the corner, and fairly for what they are. Thanks again for the review, some of the reviews out there are like: S1 this, S1 that, better than Sony - Conclusion - I recommend Sony O.o

[@cameralabs]

Thanks! PS - if you ever order anything online, such as from B&H, please do consider going to them through my links in the description - thanks!

[@proteus1]

So if I had an Atmos and the upgrade in July...I would have a 30fps in 4k 10 bit recording? Is that what I need to get the most out of the camera?

[@cameralabs]

The July update gives you 10 bit internally too.

[@cameralabs]

@exeterweathermodification watch if you only want 4k up to 30p in 10 bit then you can do so internally with a fast card and the July update. No need for an Atomos unless you want 4k 60p in 10bit, or of course if you simply prefer recording externally.

[@finnillson4808]

Video autofocus seems much more confident then DfD in m43 lineup. Panasonic is using its new dual focus system with an “ultrasonic assist system” in its new S lenses. Probably one of the reasons they cost so much. Plus a dedicated AF processor in the body. It’s great that they have done this but it also means most likely m43 won’t see these improvements without updated lenses. It also means DfD will suck, most likely, with any lens that isn’t a Panasonic one. I have mixed feelings about the S1. I really appreciate Panasonic’s approach and build quality. They really try to give their customers what they want and weight the pro and cons with consideration. I however a bit worried with the sinking camera market that they will start to act more like Canon in the future. Great review Gordon!

[@cameralabs]

Thanks! I'm looking forward to seeing what the AF is like on the Sigma L-mount lenses...

[@Chasingbuildsnyc]

Best camera review

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@AbdurRehman-uk6vc]

What option can i use for slow motion in 100 shutter in Panasonic s1. Any one can tell me?

[@SuperDigitalMe]

Why no 4k apsc mode for S1R?

[@CarlosAlvaradoPhotography]

Is there a way to crop to APSC while recording(not just 60p)? Dedicate a button to crop when you would like to?

[@baihu4u]

There is an internal function called ETC (Extended Tele-Conversion) that allows you set a crop of 1.4 or 2.0 which you should be able to custom assign to function button.

[@CarlosAlvaradoPhotography]

@@baihu4u Thanks for your help but I don't see this option on the S1. I know it's on the M43 system but don't see it on the S1.

[@baihu4u]

@@CarlosAlvaradoPhotography Sure no prob man. When I saw your question I got curious about it as well since I have the GH4 & G9. I googled the S1 manual and searched for 'Extended'; sure enough it does it as well... Section 6 - Focus/Zoom Pg# 122... :-)

[@cameralabs]

in addition to the other comments, you can simply choose to film with an APSC crop in any of the video modes or frame rates. I showed some clips at 4k 25p in APSC for instance.

[@CarlosAlvaradoPhotography]

​@@cameralabs Thanks Gordan! Found it!

[@georgestiros4392]

i just bought a new S1R with 24 to 105 for $1900. WOW ....I am selling my Canon R5.....this camera is amazing. The pictures are out of this world.

[@gardien340]

Does trigger recording with the Ninja V work? I couldn't get it to work with the S1?

[@cameralabs]

Do you mean triggering the Atomos by pressing a button on the camera? I'm not sure if it allows it.

[@gardien340]

@@cameralabs yes. I found out it doesn't work (yet)

[@ccabrita6227]

AF from Panasonic its getting better , I dont know when but maybe in 2 or 3 years it will be like canon and sony , but right now it looks like very usable , but people should learn use MF .Some vídeos on vimeo please . GREAT review thanks

[@ccabrita6227]

@Arvid Kracht ya an acurate AF its a tool that will help ,us , some more than others , depending on what is being done . I like to use MF.

[@GrumpyMansREVIEWS]

Not bad but as I’m new to this I feel Canon is safer for me until I’ve learned how to handle cameras using the M50 at the moment I do eventually want to get into 4K proper 4K not Canons cropped 4K lol great review as usual

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@CarlosMenciaTT]

Nice review.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@furi-yo]

"i love your video" idk why i felt like, Panasonic made the screen turn inwards to keep it away from the "sun" and with how heavy the camera is, if it were to flip out inwards and fall that screen will defiantly brake off...i could be wrong, but that's just what it looks like to me..but great video i love it.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks!

[@TechInspected]

I wasn't considering this but given that Gordon thinks it's great and comes close to Sony full frames I'm going to put it in my shortlist now.

[@cameralabs]

There's a lot of good choices out there now...

[@mannypvd2296]

Hi Gordon. Is 4k 120fps possible on Lumix S1? I have USA version it skips 120 completely and goes to 150fps HD

[@cameralabs]

It's been a while since I tested it BUT I think 4k is only available up to 60p.

[@mannypvd2296]

@@cameralabs thank you! Maybe a firmware this year... fingers crossed!

[@abyshines]

Really nice review and fair too.i am happy to see such a smooth autofocusing in this camera compared to anyone in the market,the transition is looking very good. Which is a key for videography,The best part about this sensor is it's so we'll behaved and stabilised that I almost believed that you were using a humble of some sort,besides there wasn't any refocusing issue while vlogging although you were walking in a variably luminated street. Nice camera I must say,it covers most of the cons from other full frame mirrorless in the market at the cost of slightly bigger body but that might be a plus for many I guess.Really like how simple and well placed dials and buttons unlike over crowded back of fuji.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks, glad you found it useful! Have you seen the main review video I did showing all the photo features?

[@abyshines]

Gordon Laing its the way you review and make the video which intrigues...

[@hawaiirealmedia5610]

Well done.

[@HazeAnatomy]

Discovered after purchase that The S1 does not output Trigger signal via HDMI, and also doesn't output timecode. Therefore the Camera can't trigger recording to an Atomos Ninja Unit which is a Big Flaw in my opinion... Maybe you could suggest this feature added in the Next Update... Cheers!

[@cameralabs]

Sure thing, I don't go into that depth for my tests as I generally only use the Atomos to record menus, but it is something Panasonic is normally good at - indeed there may be a way to set it up. See if you can engage with Nick Driftwood, a film maker who uses Panasonic, he may be able to help.

[@HazeAnatomy]

@@cameralabs Thanks For the Advice.. Nick Confirmed the Option is not Available and that Panasonic is aware of the absence Of the function.. Hopefully it's in the next Firmware update🤷🏽‍♂️

[@cameralabs]

@@HazeAnatomy thanks for the update!

[@sakeer.ksakeer.k8845]

Sir, I need help.I am wedding photographer in India I am looking for a new camera. It has two cameras in front of me Lumix S1 and SONY 7MIII Which of these is the best camera for the weddingphotography? Please help me.

[@ImagineAS]

You couldnt see the S1 screen when walking, but the picture was amazing. Almost dont have to worry about it. :-)

[@cameralabs]

it was better than expected!

[@ronbackal]

It looks really nice the S1! I actually am looking for best sharpness in any camera for video. I did look at Panasonic also because of the use of l mount , so I can use very sharp Leica lenses, and it doesn’t have OLPF , But I hope it won’t disappoint me versus a more strong video workhorse like Sony FX6/9 (with the 2 Leica Sl lenses it will be the same money as FX9)

[@cameralabs]

Consider Lumix S5II and S5IIX

[@azhagustudio5943]

Very nice...sir

[@alessandrov5249]

In the focus pulling example with the can on the bench at min 14:10 and 21:10, there is something strange in the bokeh. The transition between in focus and out of focus areas seems too abrupt.

[@cameralabs]

That's a characteristic of the lens.

[@alessandrov5249]

@@cameralabs For a 50mm 1.4 the bokeh transition is too abrupt, it looks like almost a tilt and shift lens used for miniature effects

[@hanuman918]

IBIS allows me to use my ZE lenses for stabilised video via sigma MC21 adapter!

[@cameralabs]

I do love having IBIS with old lenses!

[@hanuman918]

@@cameralabsi am impressed by the IBIS! Thank u for your effort and the review for this camera 😀

[@cameralabs]

@@hanuman918 you're welcome!

[@chloescanlon1107]

22:11 Thank you Gordon, true. And thank you for your understanding. The side hinged screen is crafted in hell. Tilt screens are for proper photographers and filmmakers. I love you 😍

[@cameralabs]

Ha ha! Side hinged all the way!

[@ShutterlabCreative]

Because the s1 does not allow you to adjust settings in high frame rates, can you confirm that the shutter speed is locked at 180 so as not to disrupt motion blur in slow motion?

[@ccabrita6227]

As subscriber wanted to ask about the fact there is only , one vídeo sample, from your review , in the vimeo , about the first Panasonic full frame camera , S1. I like your reviews , thank you .

[@cameralabs]

I plan on adding more samples to vimeo for download. Are there any that you'd like in particular? (I can't guarantee I'll be able to upload specific ones, but try me anyway!)

[@ccabrita6227]

@@cameralabs Thank you this is good news , for sure Ok , show us something in HLG profile would be nice , I´m very happy with your feedback .

[@ccabrita6227]

@@cameralabs A night vídeo would be nice too , many thanks .

[@cameralabs]

@@ccabrita6227 I don't have night, but I do have some higher ISO stuff, like at 6400 as I recall. I'll post a bunch over the next few days if I can.

[@ccabrita6227]

@@cameralabs I will be waiting for ...

[@liz_travels]

What is the native ISO?

[@keithgoreham1463]

100

[@proteus1]

Hopefully they will give us a detailed update that makes the focusing much better too.

[@avarmadillo]

Not to beat a dead horse, but to drive a point home to at least my satisfaction I set up a peaking test. I used the Panasonic S1, the Panasonic GH5, the Panasonic G85, the Nikon Z6, and the Fujifilm X-H1, all using third party lenses. With the GH5, G85, the Z6, and the X-H1 there was absolutely no change in the quality and intensity of the peaking settings between using peaking to set the focus up and after the camera started rolling. Sadly, after checking BOTH the EVF and the LCD of the S1 both showed a diminishment in the quality and intensity of peaking once the shot was rolling. This diminishment is SIGNIFICANT, at least on my S1---I'd say at 70% or more %% drop--sometimes very difficult to see, especially on the EVF. The effect of this is that if you change the focus to another object while rolling you either focus past it before you see it, or you focus past it because you're not sure if your focus is not quite right---and most often it isn't. How do I know that? Because if I stop the shot after shifting focus the original quality and intensity immediately appear. When that happens I find the focus I ended up with was not accurate. Either not focusing far enough, or focusing past the object you are simply guessing. It seems to me the peaking feature of the S1 is calibrated to be its best, most viewable, and most accurate before the shutter is pressed with a SIGNIFICANT drop off once you start rolling. Why? This is not the case with the other four cameras I tested---and two of them were Panasonics. The peaking of the GH5 and the G85 are just...okay ....But they are stable before and after the shot is made, and pretty accurate. The Nikon is excellent---very easy to use and accurate. Even the gosh-awful Sony peaking is better than the S1---and I didn't think it was possible that anyone could have worse peaking than Sony. (Silly me). By a hair I think the Fuji X-H1 is best, clean, easy to see without obscuring the shot, and very accurate. The Fuji folks have done it right---and they keep making the X-H1 and X-T3 better. Will someone with some contacts or influence pass this on to the Panasonic people. Maybe they know and don't care. Maybe it was done intentionally for reasons I can in no way surmise. Nikon has done a few analogous things on the Z6, but nothing as egregious as the S1 peaking problem.

[@cameralabs]

Thanks for your detailed findings - I'll look into it...

[@avarmadillo]

@@cameralabs Actually, I made one mistake in rechecking my tests. The G85 does change when you hit the shutter button---the peaking intensifies and gets easier to read, not harder. It's pretty good. I remembered how peaking reacted on the G85 incorrectly.

[@cbflazaro]

4:20 not exactly correct. u either do 120p with sound, or if you go with the slowed clip out of camera, you also lose sound

[@publicaccess3767]

If it was half the size and weight, I might be interested.

[@keithgoreham1463]

If it was half the size and weight, it wouldn’t have the great FF features that set it apart from Sony/Nikon. If you want a smaller camera, buy a GH5. But the stills won’t be as pretty.

[@user-xr1sv2kd1n]

How is autofocus is I shoot myself in video?

[@cameralabs]

Don't I show you the AF examples in the video? I'd say there are better choices if you're filming yourself, notably from Canon and Sony, or even the Lumix S5 II.

[@user-xr1sv2kd1n]

@@cameralabs yes you did. But how you did it? You pushed the button and it's just focused or not. Thank for a fast answer!

[@cameralabs]

@@user-xr1sv2kd1n when I'm testing face AF, I normally choose the whole AF area with human face detection enabled, and with AFC. Most cameras will work it out with that only!

[@AlexeyDyachenko]

10:27 Bayer moire and aliasing (was noticeable even in the beach scene) versus X-trans. Fuji

[@avarmadillo]

No IBIS---I prefer the X-H1.

[@karlbratby4349]

@@avarmadillo yes it has ibis and combined dual using lens as well, XH1 is great but S1 in a different league

[@SCtester]

22:28 you predicted the S1H!

[@cameralabs]

I sometimes get it right!

[@uniqueurl]

So, slow motion for creators , is a bummer in this camera.

[@xray111xxx]

It is illogical to see Panasonic not get DFD finally right. They have heard all the roasting for DFD breathing backgrounds. I think soon DFD will be fixed fully. If I get the GH5 or G9, for video fixed focus for my stuff, done! No way in hell I am getting an S1 and S1R. The reason? Too big! Too expensive, and glass will be outrageous. Too heavy! But for Full Frame fans will get along fine with this, but Sony Canon, and Nikon may give the gallant fight. The ergonomics of Panasonic are so darn good. Bodies built like outdoor hammers, and 5 axis stabilization, and no hobbling like Canon does on video mode. No mental ergos of Sony, and Nikon is the least offensive to me as I grew up more on Nikon so bias there. Panasonic can not screw people with the GH5 because they did such a great job. I will defect if Panasonic kills the G9 or GH5. I love your reviews Gordon. Most sensible of the lot. I have cancelled so many subscriptions on KZbin because they are not doing this for us but for themselves. You at least I think are doing it for us. Keep up the great work.

[@cameralabs]

I certainly am doing it for you!

[@cameralabs]

@@reludennis has Tony tested this camera?

[@bobhanuman65]

I love the camera and shot a theater performance in 4k 30 with no external recorder and the superb 70-200 lens. I used all manual focus so it was not an issue for me. The weight is just like a 5d IV. The low light capabilities of this camera are amazing. If you shoot with big lenses the size is absolutely perfect. I have never understood why people enjoy shooting with huge 2.8 zooms and small bodies.

[@bobhanuman65]

@@reludennis The XH1 is a amazing camera but the XH1 with the 50-140 lens is only 100 grams lighter than the S1 with the 70-200 Panasonic go figure. The only thing is you can pick one up now for under $1000. The Penny lens is superior to the fuji in this instance but costs about $300 more.

[@bobhanuman65]

@@reludennis XH1 is 673gm without the grip it weighs over 1kilo S1 is 998 the less are about equal weight

[@kahvac]

Sony fanboy here... I have to say I like the full size of this camera body and rugged build. I'm rethinking my alliance to Sony....

[@cameralabs]

It certainly feels a lot more substantial than the Sony bodies, BUT personally speaking I prefer the lighter bodies. It really is a personal choice though and I know a lot of people who love the heft of a big camera body.

[@seacow2001]

The only alliance you need to feel is to yourself and to find the right gear for you. :)

[@thewalkingvloggingman7152]

I'll keep my GH5 Mark ll.

[@amphotography1746]

Fake news! S1 Is not the first full frame body to put out 4k50/60. Still the 1DX mark ii offers less crop in 4k50/60 at 1,3x crop. 😁🤓 So if you want full frame 4k at higher frame rates it is Kinefinity Mavo LF, Canon c700 or something like that. 😆 Edit. Yeah, you mentioned it sorryy

[@cameralabs]

Yep, I mentioned it! And I was also careful to say the first MIRRORLESS full frame body!

[@robert7622]

Gh5 for video still.

[@cameralabs]

The GH5 is hard to beat, but a full-frame version would be nice too. I wonder if the S1 will become that after firmware updates or if they will release a new model.

[@robert7622]

@@cameralabs I think a Gh6 shouldn't be too far off by now.. But I think a new generation of full frame video cameras is just around the corner.. New chips/processors starting with the A7siii and allowing some True 4k 60p along side some impressive 10 bit codecs and features... This S1 still feels a bit of school.

[@reludennis]

@@robert7622 most of the serious movie makers shoot 24p and 48shutter speed so 4k60p is not necessary unless you shoot sports or tv...

[@robert7622]

rdennis people want 4k60 On these cameras for decent slow motion

[@reludennis]

@@robert7622 right...i forgot about slow motion...good point. I have 4k60p on my phone...i use my camera for cinematic footage 24p 48shutter only now...

[@eicarshiva]

This has great colour. But if you're are doing video autofocussing this is the worst camera, not like reviews say managble smooth talk. This is worst. Also relying on 2 f/4 lenses was my mistake buying this camera. I got 50% off in India. Still price is not justification.

[@JoeMaranophotography]

I get the feeling that ever vocal Sony fanboys are going to have to resort to "but its heavy and expensive" after these tests. Me: I don't care because it IS too heavy (with a big lens) and expensive. But what a bit of kit!

[@cameralabs]

It is a very impressive system already.

[@JoeMaranophotography]

@@cameralabs The M43 forums are full of tempted people 🤣

[@cameralabs]

@@JoeMaranophotography I hope you point them in the direction of my videos!

[@JoeMaranophotography]

@@cameralabs I dont think they need any pointing to your videos as they are a pretty intelligent bunch and already watch :)

[@glennsak]

Wait, DFD is as good as Sony or Canon? Whaaaa?….

[@cameralabs]

It's different. It's ok for some things, not as good for others, but probably better than most people assume.

[@avarmadillo]

This is VIDEO--why all the obsession with AF?!? and pixel peeping? MF and the tools for MF are much more important than AF in video. If AF were more important and better in video Hollywood would be using it. I understand. AF is essential and a real benefit in street photography. But it is nothing but a crutch for video that prevents your video from looking cinematic. It's for lazy people. Note: you fail to mention that the Peaking feature, which works well, completely vanishes and is of no practical use in video once the shutter button is pressed. This is ridiculous. In stills the shot ends with the click of the shutter. In video the shot only begins---and all the tools of focus and exposure are needed THROUGHOUT the duration of the VIDEO clip. How hard is that to understand? Unless that is corrected it will be a deal breaker for me. If you have great video, provide video oriented features. The way those features function for stills is neither sufficient nor acceptable for video.

[@cameralabs]

I agree to a point. Yes, a professional manual focus puller will always look best of all, but we can't all do that, and in some more casual environments, AF can be incredibly useful, especially if you have a small team - for example, I'm a team of ONE, so I need reliable AF. It's not laziness, it's simply that I am a one-man operation most of the time, and YT doesn't pay well enough for me to hire a focus puller.

[@GregorMima]

Yeah the "lazy" people go for Sony. Maybe Nikon. $$$ missing for Pana.

[@nordic5490]

William Ridenour Hollywood has a big crew and a dedicated focus puller. The average soccer mom or anyone filiming thier kids running around, needs effecfive AF. If af is not a priority for you, then look at the $1200 BMPCC4K that shoots 4k60 in 12bit raw. You should be aware that all serious vidoe is shot in 12, 14 or 16 bit raw.

[@nordic5490]

rdennis Serious movie makers also shoot in 12, 14 or 16bit raw. If you are serious and on a budget, look at the $1200 BMPCC4K that shoots 4k60 in 12 bit raw.

[@avarmadillo]

@@nordic5490 Your comment is a non-sequitur on several levels. 1. This is not a camera the average soccer mom would use. You may have heard of the smart phone? It's got everything a soccer mom could want---why would she lug around the S1? 2. I have a Nikon Z---because it will enable me to shoot in RAW, it already shoots in 10 bit 422 on my ATOMOS. 3. I don't want a BMPCC because it has no IBIS, and I would only use a MFT sensor with a third party lens and a speed booster. 4. When you hand hold your camera with third party, MF only, prime lenses with practice you can focus pull with the best of them---yes, it's often not 10 bit or RAW, but your focus pulls with help your shots look filmic and not like somebody's home video, a la soccer mom.