Pankration -84kg Men's Finals

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[@honinakecheta601]

Wish I could’ve seen this fighting style thousands of years ago, it sounded way more brutal and exciting

[@calebrobinson3144]

Just watch MMA

[@sir2657]

​@Wolf you must not be greek hahah

[@sir2657]

Well think of it like this...In ancient greece they didn't just do it for an Olympic pussy sport...this was how they would fight if they lost their weapon in battle so yes it was way more brutal because they had intention to kill

[@sir2657]

@Wolf what ?

[@sir2657]

@Wolf you suffer from mental illness invest some money to finding out what it Is

[@tomsunggles5277]

8yrs forward... Ukraine & Russia are still fighting!

[@johnjordan6032]

8yrs later Russia being a bunch of pricks as usual.

[@Rekless_Z]

but they decided to make the fight more HARDCORE

[@munanyo4670]

Man ukraine and russia been fighting for centuries at this point

[@jmgonzales7701]

​@@munanyo4670and ukraine keeps on winning

[@JamietheEmperor]

not funny.

[@eirdofkoda]

if this was real pankration they'd have to fight naked ;)

[@saporob]

If this was real pankration they didn't use a stupid karategi, they can punch to the heads and headbutts...

[@Araanor]

+Robert S and even do Rips and bites. Real pankration was known for it's few rules

[@batulefou]

biting and eye gouging was illegal in pankration. tthough they would have to be naked and soaked in olive oil.

[@desmondrivera8083]

Right? The uniforms are ridiculous! let them wear shorts and head gear and allow punches to the head, this is not karate.

[@gabbar51ngh]

batulefou ancient India had similar fighting rules. It's pretty much wrestling now, But back then weapons and even strikes were allowed

[@BrainTrance]

Pankration is the very first wrestling + stand-up fighting ever recorded. MMA originates from it. It comes from Greece, as boxing (πυγμαχία) does.

[@lord777terror]

yea but who did the greeks learn it from ?

[@everydayisalesson7277]

lord777terror From Hercules.Pankration is associated with the ancient Greek tradition ma friend, like the fight between Hercules and the lion of Nemea,Theseus with Minotauros, Aianta with Odysseus. It exists as a martial art from 8th century B.C. The name originates from the words PAN+KRATEIN(Πάν+Κραττείν) which means HOLDS THE DOMINATE POWER.

[@lord777terror]

yea but who taught the greeks the greeks were learned and taught by the africans in ancient kemet and they were doing hand to hand combat ground fighting graples and throws long before the greeks in fact the greek gods zeus and apollo were ethiopian unless HOMER is a liar

[@everydayisalesson7277]

I dont think so that Greeks learned this art from Africans..cause they are sources refered to Pankration 3000 years ago.. It was the first to combine striking, grappling and submission techniques, making it the ancestor of modern mixed martial arts. Also Apollon and Zeus werent Ethiopian,but Hellenic(Greek). And Homeros was not a liar but a lot of sources are...search better next time my friend...

[@BrainTrance]

lord777terror Zeus and Apollo were ethiopians? lol, discussion closed.

[@UnleashedTraining101]

Pankration was my introduction to grappling. Started this when I was training in hapkido. Started BJJ a few weeks later. Unfortunately I only got to do around a year of pankration. This shit is the real deal. Only time I've ever had a knee injury, when I copped a kneebar from this Thai dude.

[@dariusfetescu2124]

A knee injury from a kneebar sounds painful.

[@pyiaow]

came here from sidemen's the wheel; I really have no idea that this existed

[@BrandonCavittsChannel]

Same tho

[@cavaridrodid0924]

@@BrandonCavittsChannel x2

[@lewistillett206]

Same

[@13TrafalgarLaw]

Proud to see this uniform and these blue lines as a Greek from another athlete

[@aluisiofsjr]

Proud of the Taekwondo uniform?

[@sir2657]

@@aluisiofsjr you did not understand what he said why are you commenting a smart ass comment....I won't explain it you don't deserve it

[@johnjordan6032]

As a Greek I find it very weird and feel like they are working in a Greek restaurant. It’s out place as well since they’re wearing a Japanese Gi.

[@sarumadaki]

@@aluisiofsjr "maiandros" throughout the uniform lines, the Gi is a modern way of having a uniform on for catching/grappling/throwing, nothing wrong with it

[@cypriotwarrior8089]

Even at this more "family friendly" version, pangration is still a complete martial art and it can be very useful for everyone.

[@ratchat123]

This looks more like a random mishmash of modern martial arts like kyuokushin karate and jiu-jitsu, with some weird arbitrary rules, nothing to do with pankration other than the name.

[@petarvasiljevic8764]

@@ratchat123 but it's still good though. No punches to the head, yet fighter are able to go full force with kicks and punches to the body.

[@ratchat123]

@@petarvasiljevic8764 yes looks fun but they should get rid of the gis I think

[@petarvasiljevic8764]

@@ratchat123 yep

[@sinidisialitaria6599]

@@ratchat123 this is an ancient olympic sport. Karate and bjj didn't even exist back then

[@innosanto]

Pankration and Greco-Roman wrestling (aka wrestling) and boxing, all 3 ancient Greek sports.

[@TheSublimeLifestyle]

Boxing didn’t start in Greece - drawings have shown boxing in Egypt before Greece. Neither did Greco-Roman wrestling start in Ancient Greece. Greco is actually fairly new and the name was given as a homage to Ancient Greek culture.

[@CEOofSleep]

@@TheSublimeLifestyle it started in Greenland

[@oscarclaudio2848]

Boxing is From England Guys

[@sir2657]

Wrestling and boxing where invented from the first human to live...it's like sayign before we discovered gravity people used to float....it's the rules and the sport that countries gave but fist fighting and wrestling existed because that's how every human on this planet fights

[@johnjordan6032]

Greco Román was started in France in the 18th century. You need a history lesson my friend.

[@RichardsWorld]

This is better than war.

[@majornukehazard1989]

WAR hoo yeah what is it good for? Absolutely nothing.☝️😜😂

[@nicorepetto5781]

If Pankration gets back into the olympics as Khabib intends I hope they don't use a gi. It doesn't make sense. Pankration wasn't origionally fought using an gi and neither is mma

[@sir2657]

So you want them naked ?...I agree tho maybe some mma shorts would do just fine...but just letting you know they fought naked in ancient Greece so I don't think you want that

[@ratchat123]

@@sir2657 I think a swimming bodysuit or wrestling rash guard sort of clothes would be best, best to avoid nasty skin infections like tinea gladiatorum or wrestler's ringworm plus slippery like the original oil of the naked pankration.

[@innosanto]

Really Khabib intends that? That is good

[@Mr-ep2qi]

Khabib is trying to get pankration in the Olympics ??

[@Irfirt]

Chiron would beat them with one eye.

[@faabi_i]

Omg someone who has seen fate

[@Diegolikesducks]

This will decide who wins the war.

[@Raivon]

There's a reason this martial art has existed since the time of ancient Greece. Shit is _effective_

[@zaidhussain9123]

no it isn"t. a bjj blue belt would have better groundwork and a muay thai noob could strike better than these two.

[@lowrhyan567]

​@@zaidhussain9123 Nice joke

[@teovu5557]

Might want to look up modern pankration history........Pankration DIED OUT thousands of years ago and modern Pankration is a recreation from the 1970s from Jim arvintis who used Judo,jujutsu,muay thai,boxing and wrestling to create MODERN pankration.........it has no connections to the ancient one. lmao

[@Dedalo8]

@@zaidhussain9123 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@zaidhussain9123]

@@lowrhyan567 that's why you don't have an effective rebuttal to my take, right? these two dudes would be lunch for any half-competent Muay Thai practitioner, let alone anyone who trains MMA.

[@dest1012008]

Damn i really like the format and scoring system here better than MMA. Head strikes with the hands and no gi would be cool too.

[@thomasmei3443]

josey flowers no gi 10th planet Eddie bravo has strikes in his tournaments

[@swashbuckler2319]

This is a watered down version of what Pankration is supposed to be, and an absolute joke

[@petarvasiljevic8764]

@@swashbuckler2319 I want to see you step in the circle with one of these 2 fighters.

[@456hawkins]

Looks like a awesome sport

[@nandawahab386]

This should be in the olympics

[@vvvvvv66666]

It was

[@gailvalleymartialarts]

It's difficult finding other Pankration fights, does anybody know where they are uploaded?

[@silver4740]

This is more than just a fight for these two countries

[@him3647]

haha, check out this war

[@nathansteele4358]

In ancient pankration, striking the balls was the preferred style of many

[@josevencamelleello4339]

they took it to whole new level this days...

[@zanderrose]

Why do they have judo gis? I don't see any throws or gi chokes

[@MotekiEZ]

reading Plato's dialogue

[@MrReality75]

Rules?

[@blackoutninja]

ITS PRONOUNCED PAN-KRA-TI-ON NOT PAN-CRAY-SHUN!

[@wesleyogilvie8105]

Long A or short A?

[@blackoutninja]

a as in father

[@crazysteve4459]

Pagratio at greek παγκρατιο

[@blackoutninja]

My point was that his mutilated american pronunciation desparately needs rectifying

[@blackoutninja]

***** Ill give you that one I was mainly thinking ancient Greek pronunciation

[@kimbreed2241]

most moral ufc

[@sethkang4410]

who else came here because of baki?

[@johnathons1789]

Me

[@DillaryHuff]

I thought I was the only one, haha.

[@LuckyBastard12345]

I came here from Kengan Omega

[@stefanlazarevic3520]

I guess I just forgot it,when was pankration mentioned in baki?

[@stefanlazarevic3520]

@@LuckyBastard12345 My biggest dissapointment was when I realised fighters don't cosplay like that guy from omega.

[@District.24]

Naked men with little willies fighting equals ancient Pankration. “Ref! Ref! He hit my willy.” “Ref! He did it again.”

[@hollowbutterfly241]

Thanks baki.

[@blusuck]

robin black ?

[@jonnydacapitallorde6666]

O Brasil ama vocês 🦇

[@johngr1747]

Ω ναι!

[@snatcherzeroone1278]

Just like Kudo, i call this the "blue always loses" sport.

[@scarred10]

its not like kudo at all,kudo allows everything but newaza time is limited

[@highwayman1932]

@@scarred10 whoosh.....

[@thclegend8870]

Wow they've really upgraded from fist fighting

[@captain4166]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Lucky-me3nh]

It would be cool if they added headgear so they can strike to the head

[@pocoloco5160]

Pahn krah tee uhn? Is this correct or sound close??

[@kekets24]

Yeah, sounds close

[@geogeo2299]

If you lose the 3 h's

[@mordi2537]

No punches to the head??!! If you want to see the real deal. Combat Sambo!

[@koketsomzimba470]

Whaaat there's even submissions. Cool

[@marshallmatters69]

Wait punches to the head aren’t allowed?

[@AnonUser1977]

Why do they wear gis?

[@euadyeu]

That's history now the time when Russian and Ukraine brothers only fighting on the tatami ...

[@mitskiskies]

I’m watching this for a bit of understanding for pankration in the olympics. I have to write about the olympics in my Latin essay 😭

[@wyxvt]

This is Pankration in name only. We can't practice real Pankration as it was practiced in ancient Greece today, because they left no manuals. We can only guess what it was like based on some paintings. Not enough to revive real Pankration. MMA has nothing to do with Prankation by the way. Yes, there are similarities in concept. But MMA didn't come from Pankration and was not inspired by it at all. MMA as we know it today came from Brazilian Vale-Tudo. MMA started from the UFC and the first UFCs were basically Brazilian Vale-Tudo competitions set in the U.S. So MMA is a direct decedent from Brazilian Vale-Tudo.

[@mardukdemigod1523]

We can say that Brazilian Vale Tudo is one of the precursors of MMA. But to make it real MMA, as it is today, there has to be a set of rules. Vale tudo, which is basically a no-holds barred style vs style match has little to no rules. The Japanese Shooto has a lot to do with what modern MMA has today(including the rules) MORE THAN the vale tudo. Shooto competition started since mid 80s and there are pre-1993 footage here in youtube(thats years ahead than the UFC).

[@Crypt0n1an]

Hmmm that is interesting, there is just one problem. Do you think that the idea of using many techniques from various fighting styles was independently arrived at by the vale tudo inventor(s)? Something tells me not very likely. The point being that the first in history to have utilized multiple fighting styles in one sport were the Greeks. The knowledge of this was not lost to history, seeing as we know about it today. So this means that it's possible that Vale Tudo and all attempts to infuse many fighting styles into one sport were inspired by the first who ever did this the ancient Greeks with Pankration. Of course we can't know for sure as we would have to speak to the guy who invented this and he's probably long dead by now.

[@seandunn8657]

Is this going to be on the test?

[@temoherbertlopez6019]

I though it was from Shooto.

[@theundisputed8350]

And where did vale tudo come from ?- Pankration. Right.

[@GenesisXTRM]

This needs to be back in the Olympics....

[@aizj16]

Who else came here because of the spartans being too op

[@exusiaidriver]

不愧是戰鬥民族~比古希臘搏擊術

[@opnavesea]

a Japanese anime brought me here

[@Harrysuke]

why are they wearing gis?

[@JESUSISGREATEST]

That's their official combat attire.

[@imuncomfbecuzihavsubsandno4371]

Cosmic King I think he meant it’s Greek sport so a more European outfit would make way more sense.

[@timotejmares]

@@imuncomfbecuzihavsubsandno4371 Greeks used to fight naked in competition, and that's not good for nowdays audience..

[@nikomatson5235]

@@timotejmares why not with shorts like mma fighters

[@aluisiofsjr]

@@timotejmares , why they don't use Vale-Tudo shorts instead Taekwondo uniform them?

[@gnothiseauton739]

"Pancrayshun" lol americans

[@JohnDoe-hq1hk]

+jack guy how is it correctly pronounced?

[@BrutalRD]

+Josh Smith PAN - KRA - TION

[@anikuzatepan]

/pæn.ˈkreɪti.ɒn = pain-kreiti-on

[@dwrussell96]

It's how it's pronounced in English. We Americans speak English, not Greek.

[@NuevoVR]

Ragnar you're not american go fuck yourself

[@nisharabeyasheikh4258]

And I big fight started in 2022 and It is still happening and it is 2023!! And Yeah!!

[@taichi29]

Did the US competed in this event ?

[@kinetic7776]

I hope not.

[@oneshot2028]

@@kinetic7776 Why???

[@fredflintstone1547]

traditioonal pankration has no gee

[@luisleonardojuarez7389]

Russian-ucranian war is like: 0:20

[@chandlerstevens4498]

Roman-greek MMA basically right ???

[@johngr1747]

no, ancient Greek.

[@johnathons1789]

Romans didnt wears gis they wore loinclothes

[@timotejmares]

They competed naked...

[@Zack1440]

👍🏽

[@zodierazvan3087]

Is this mma?

[@josephhernandez3907]

Why they wearing judo gis

[@MrPatkay]

wrestling

[@DaniG._.German]

Why are they wearing a gi?

[@nlowit]

Pan-krat-aeon. No sh sound.

[@nisharabeyasheikh4258]

Or 2023 idk!!

[@MiguelCosta-ig8sf]

Nice 2 countries

[@Rihardololz]

it was before everything started.

[@brassvulcher8207]

Pankration with a GI on lmao

[@TheSublimeLifestyle]

BUT MUH ANCIENT GREECE. DUH FADDER OF MMA….

[@brassvulcher8207]

@@TheSublimeLifestyle huh

[@blackbird8837]

I know a misthios who would have beat any of these guys.

[@MrGA555]

I thought Panktation was MMA without rules. So is this Panktation without rules??

[@duszeksmsaczek6394]

Schäfer G. In Pankration there are two safety rules: not biting and not eye hitting. Headshots are OK.

[@timotejmares]

@@duszeksmsaczek6394 and there was also submition (by rising index) and TKO (lost of consciousnes) and the referee had stick or whip to punish violation of rules.

[@aluisiofsjr]

@@timotejmares , all you guys are misurunderstanding with ancient Pankration. This modern "Pankration" the rules are way more restricted than MMA: no low kicks to the knee and shin, no liver shot, no ground n' pound.

[@timotejmares]

@@aluisiofsjr that was the topic, the diference between antient and modern pnkration

[@Themayseffect]

Is that Robin Black commentating?

[@Warimathel]

It's like mma

[@benetogamerOFC]

i was making a school work and what we got here, ukraine vs russia, wow

[@luigianchondo7241]

Pankration is a Greek martial art but you have to use a karate Gi or kimono for it.

[@user-Prometheus]

No.

[@luigianchondo7241]

@@user-Prometheus then why do I see them wearing Gi or kimono?

[@terenceangelo8714]

If it were up to me, I would've decided on letting them wear wrestling singlets or boxing tops and shorts.

[@Burn_Angel]

You wanted them to be naked, as it was done traditionally?

[@marc-andretrudeau4412]

Why are they not naked? -An athenian citizen from 500 BC

[@DaniG._.German]

Why are the wearing gis?

[@nisharabeyasheikh4258]

I think It will end in 2024

[@ralfi1134]

why they use a kimono??? they should use a singlet.

[@lupusHegemonia]

The modern "Pankration" is a "light" version of the actual ancient one! In ancient "Pankration", you could do WHATEVER you like to defeat your opponent - boxing, kicking, wrestling, taking eyes off (!!!), chocking him to the death (!!!), breaking his fingers, whatever!!!! Very few defeated athlets in ancient "Pankration" were ...survived - most were dead after the match! (There were NO rules... NO TIMING - rounds... you simply was fighting for YOUR LIFE!)

[@mattr.1887]

Was it always a fight to the death?

[@Centurio_1]

@@mattr.1887 No, it was an olympic fight, not a death match

[@Burn_Angel]

Sounds dumb. Who would be on a sport where everything is allowed? Sounds like a sports for either brutes or dirty fighters. Or both.

[@Sithis-zs9cy]

Eye gouging was actually one of the few things that were illegal in ancient pankration and while to the death was encouraged a knockout or yield also ended a matched

[@dustyrhea99]

This is MMA

[@xenikoz69]

mma is pankration

[@kinetic7776]

+Γιάννης Ξενικάκης Pankration is the more brutal mma...

[@gabbar51ngh]

Xenikogiannis MMA isn't pankration. Pankration was dead and discontinued martial art. The people who brought it back are actually kickboxers and fighters from other martial arts who recreated this. Seriously you think these karate style point and clothes aren't enough clues? Pankration maybe older but now they are looking at other martial arts to be back

[@aluisiofsjr]

@@kinetic7776 , the real Pankration, not this fake modern "Pankration" that is just asian martial arts.

[@nisharabeyasheikh4258]

R 2023

[@naastory007]

Wushu

[@Epsilonsama]

This aint pankration, this looks like Judo with some striking allowed. Pankration was an almost everything goes sport that allowed everything except eye gauging and biting. Also fighters were naked.

[@mba321]

You really want to see naked male fighters, bruh?

[@nisharabeyasheikh4258]

Wow ukr won the fight 👏

[@helsinki]

Why adopt a japanese gi? Its a greek martial art, not asian.

[@shakzor]

Not real pankration.

[@innosanto]

It is a more relaxed version in comparison to the original. In original they would break fingers etc.

[@hazahizabbanzabalawan3815]

This is just combat sambo

[@upliftingkallithea7801]

Because it is , pankration is long dead and even if it was alive nowadays (which it is it's called mma) most of its techniques would look like techniques used in mma since most mma techniques are simple , effective and efficient.

[@rockstarskolas]

Baki sent me

[@salahbenar9523]

this is not pankatrion

[@Sunnyislive25498]

This is not Pankration

[@georgiamillis4218]

mma is boneless pankration

[@Matias-nr6rm]

mma has more rules than pankration, and so does this "pancrayshun" thing

[@captainkid9469]

please bring this sport to the Philippines

[@JoeNoobie]

within 4 seconds the announcer was like "no hits to the head" this is not Pankration. that sport had no holds barred and allowed eye gouging and all sorts of bs.

[@farukemirsahin9572]

Nope biting and eye gouging was banned everything else was fair game though.

[@JoeNoobie]

@@farukemirsahin9572 you're right.

[@timotejmares]

@@farukemirsahin9572 actually if it took place in Sparta, those things were also allowed, but nowhere else...

[@chaiii_teaaa5944]

Came here from baki

[@hassankallas18]

i prefer chiron vs achilles

[@rebellionia1027]

Fate Apocrypha anyone?

[@zkcud2858]

what am I doing with my life CHIRON AND ACHILLES

[@jedimike7689]

FFS learn the names of the fighters if you're commentating

[@geogeo2299]

He can't even pronounce the name of the sport

[@darlenewaldron3621]

It's pronounced pan-kra-ti-yon and NOT pankrashan!

[@markrosolini2934]

No punches to the head , why bother with these competition, that's like having horses racing with no galloping , you take away a the key element that determines who is really skilled .

[@amosamwig8394]

why so bloodthirsty my guy

[@BrutalRD]

A shame Christians banned this noble, ancient and very pagan sport.

[@theundisputed8350]

Looks like amateur mma in olympics.

[@umbyt9492]

MMA sucks

[@ptah4611]

The belts and gi are stupid

[@manuelsanchezdeinigo3959]

Wow this is why Russia invaded , bad mistake Russia

[@patricofritz4094]

@Fihlippe Luhis yes