Panorama Special: The Drugs Olympics

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[@heidebrehmer6546]

When I was born in 1972. My family was living in Dresden, at the time East Germany. My father worked as a policeman, (Not the Stasi!), which allowed us to have things others could not have. My mom was a big fan of Athletics (I am actually named after a Multi-Gold medal winning athletic from the Munich Olympics.) During the late 1970's, my two older sisters, who are 1.86m and 1.82m tall respectively, were both enrolled in one of the many "Sportschule," which is a "sports school." When they insisted that my sister's begin taking "vitamins" and "supplements," my father became outraged, confronted the coaches and caused a huge problem! Not long after, we had to leave East Germany! Fortunately, we were able to come to the United States! Watching the 1988 Olympics, especially in woman's track and field, it became apparent that the competition became the East German Chemists vs. the chemists from the United States! Now to combat the drug use during the Olympics, the I.O.C. actually takes blood samples! -Heide 🇩🇪🌹

[@its_rick_james_bich2575]

Ben Johnson the fall guy…Carl Lewis the all American hero!

[@chriswaterman3823]

I m quite aware of your presentation of irony . ( SARCASM ) good show !

[@coreyglanville546]

Carl Lewis..please...

[@petrushaasbroek8433]

A documentary ahead of its time.

[@marcusclark5330]

It wasn't ahead of its time ..its just the testin process was behind the times. I think they should let them take it...its like prohibition in 1920's USA. No one pays any attention to the rules. If they wanna kill themselves that is ultimately up to the athlete, same as when someone drinks themselves to death

[@Ozzy-87]

Johnson was made an example of but every americans all tested positive but the american commision decided that they would bring out the finding but no american would be mentioned

[@rush__man]

The biggest disgrace was the 84 games in LA. Drug cheats like Carl Lewis were covered up. Now he talks like look at all those cheaters like Ben Johnson. Lewis is the disgrace out of everyone.

[@JJ-iu9dn]

All American team of '84 were covered up not only lewis unfortunately

[@smoothnubian]

Carl is the greatest!!! Clean athlete

[@KS-bo7rm]

It wasn't " The biggest disgrace" . seriously check out cheating Olympians. There are some UNBELIEVABLE schemes!

[@endercastman]

@@smoothnubian sorry he defo isnt clean

[@smoothnubian]

@@endercastman he's cleaner than u

[@jackssmirkingrevenge9365]

_someone accidentally shredded the document_ 😥😆

[@jeremyweems4916]

That sounds like something a 12 year old would say.

[@tomsheppard378]

The dog ate the list😂

[@andrewhayward2454]

Doping in sport has reached an all new high.

[@mrkipling2201]

The LA coliseum is certainly an iconic stadium.

[@ashleymeggan]

It REALLY is.

[@stephenreeds3632]

What's that got to do with it?

[@spyingcactus]

Thank you for this

[@1972dsrai]

Drugs or no drugs, Ben Johnsons win at the Seoul Olympics was one of the greatest ever. From a spectators view point it was an amazing victory. He blew the other runners out of sight and Carl Lewis complained/hinted that Johnson was doping, but it has since come to light he himself was doing the same and his positive results at the LA Olympics had been covered up by the US authorities. Linford Christie was also caught doping years later. It was just bad luck for Johnson when all this is taken into account. Lewis was lucky when at the LA games that it was on home territory with US authorities willing to look the other way instead of banning him.

[@karlbristow1223]

@@jeffjoyce4509 tested positive for roids in 99. Do your research!

[@robertoddiaz7323]

Carl Lewis a disgrace to the world and people do not realize these at all

[@robertoddiaz7323]

You can't say bad luck all these bs are orchestrated by the Americans

[@abikehannahkumoye590]

Really

[@stephenreeds3632]

Drugs or no drugs? Just examine your argument.

[@Moishe555]

i thought this was going to be about people playing football on Acid, or gold medals for biggest bong rips.

[@shanetonkin2850]

27:18 “the flying dump truck” What a name.

[@waynemoro6094]

They're all at it sadly....

[@carlosaraujo9037]

No drugs no medals... It is that easy...

[@user-co1gi7yd2r]

Carlos Araujo well maybe not in sports like chess or pool.

@@user-co1gi7yd2r this are not olympic sports.....

[@user-co1gi7yd2r]

Cirugía de Mano and? I could also name curling. But even then some athletes get caught

[@superdriver777]

The guy at 1:30 is the best one (all of his comments are spot-on in my opinion)

[@user-co1gi7yd2r]

superdriver777 the truth

[@MrSilverfish12]

The answer by that lady in the end is so damn numb. Spectators are the reason you have a stage to play on!

[@Hever73]

Do you mean Angella Issanjeko, I think she is right one owes reason to the sponsorships of the events not to the spectators . There's a big money enterprise in all sports .

[@jackssmirkingrevenge9365]

whoa my man the weightlifter shows some dedication to his craft with that catheter procedure 😅😅😅

[@marcusclark5330]

Innit still came back positive tho... reckon his coach was a bit of a perv and wanted to watch hm put a tube up his japs eye... Doesnt hurt without oil tho...is that what the coach told him?

[@marcusclark5330]

I know legend ain't he

[@marcusclark5330]

And it didn't even work

[@stephenreeds3632]

I love the fact that the Americans thought that they, living in a country based on con men and hypocrites, could possibly be cheating.

[@alwhyte6533]

While I don't like the use of drugs in sports, the thing that is overlooked is that, regardless of drug use, these athletes still have to do a lot of training. Without the training, the use of steroids won't change anything.

[@shemuyeldanyyel4459]

US complains only when they r beaten at there own craft...such hypocrites 🤦‍♀️. Doping will never stop in sport is just not to get caught

[@Refilwe_Fifi]

So true! Americans were crying about the East Germans during the '76 games but emulated them at the '84 games.

[@mikerhawley1]

It’s not just a couple of shots of epo and bang, it’s still a lot of hard work

[@ameliabedelia7018]

What is epo? Like an epo pen?

[@petrushaasbroek8433]

Bryan Batcheldor was giving us some good info, but the narrator covered it up by speaking over him. :(

[@MyzelleJenkins]

Wow. This was from 1996, and the Russian doping scandal blew up in 2017. Depressing.

[@jeremyweems4916]

They all use peds. All althetes. All sports. Your favorite athlete in the past 40 years has used them. Guaranteed.

[@lalib.53]

​@@jeremyweems4916Do you have any evidence regarding Flo Jo?

[@avus-kw2f213]

RUSSIA did nothing wrong The Olympics is biased they literally banned North Korea for not wanting to get COVID 19

[@Refilwe_Fifi]

The US went from crying about the East Germans and their obvious doping during the 1976 games to doping in the LA games. Laughable!

[@Mighty-ue7bt]

how do you know it was the us athletes?

[@shane-irish]

So true

[@latebloomerabroad]

From 1973 until the Berlin Wall came down, the East Germans were systematically doping. There may be a random American here and there who dopes, but it's not everyone like East Germany and the old Chinese system in the 80's and 90's. No other country has done what those two did.

[@crabb9966]

Ben Johnson, the second fastest man of all time after Bolt

[@benjaminahisrael611]

Can they do this documentary over in 2022

[@jeremyweems4916]

They did. It's called "Icarus", and it's amazing.

[@chrisminton8674]

Isaac loves Nicola 😩

[@Hever73]

WAS FLO-JO (FLORENCE GRIFFITH) A CLEAN ATHLETE? I DOUBT IT SHE WAS NEVER CAUGHT LIKE LANCE ARMSTRONG OR MARION JONES. WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?

[@smoothnubian]

she was doped. thats why she died young

[@gohard1313]

Yup def doped

[@sparticuzj19]

She died from cancer which is side effect of taking those drugs.

[@terryhatfield1758]

Apparently she did test positive but it was covered up as she was a major money-making machine at the time

[@sage6336]

DOPED

[@KnowledgeAltruismCooperation]

The Olympic games as well as the tour de France, NFL, etc. are all about science and technology. When I watch such sports events I always see it as a competition between laboratories and technical scientific methods and protocols. Since the end of my childhood I don't see any sport events as they should be and once were: competition between different innate biological settings and techniques. But the same goes for the intellectual abilities with student's using drug's like retalin, etc to improve academic and professional results. Therefore I think that using only what mother nature gave you is quite exotic and unique. Depressing....

[@energysurgefitness1738]

Yep even in academics you have people killing the competition because they're coked up

[@stephenreeds3632]

There have been a few rumblings about Rugby Union as well.

[@petrushaasbroek8433]

Only silly individuals test positive for anabolic steroids - Dr Michael Turner

[@timw4369]

IOC were complicit in the cover up

[@idontsignin]

The people that make the drugs are always 5 steps ahead. As soon as the testers finally figure out what athletes are taking there's already new stuff available for them which is why some athletes never get caught and never will get caught, and it's why some athletes are found to have taken something years after they've retired from sports. Drug testers are honestly fighting a losing battle. If it wasn't for people like Yulia Stepanova Russian athletes would still be competing.

[@jackssmirkingrevenge9365]

i know nothing about it but cant some way be devised of testing for the _effect_ these different chemicals have on the physiology rather than trying to blindly stab around for new chemical combinations in the dark as it were? must be some effect they can now monitor which only happens w/ performance enhancing drugs with such sensitive equipment available nowadays 🤔

[@sparticuzj19]

Always be suspicious of athletes who develop cancer because it’s one of the side effects of taking drugs.

[@michaeledwards2251]

@@jackssmirkingrevenge9365 Ben Johnson's supposed drug positive was proven in court to be setup : the drug found was in 100% concentration which an expert testified was impossible in a urine sample. He was disqualified for having a endocrine imbalance. It came out Seoul tested the endocrine balance of all the athletes in Seoul and 80% were found to have an endocrine imbalance. An endocrine imbalance is the result of long term heavy doping. The body compensates for the additional steroids by reducing its own steroids. In women the give away of an endocrine imbalance is a moustache : both Evelyn Ashford and Flo Jo had such. The problem is modern drugs, and hormonal modification, cover up an endocrine imbalance.

[@ilwill5996]

It was in high schools in the 90's too. Cheaters do win... when they don't get caught.

[@ameliabedelia7018]

I don’t understand. If the German Doctors gave their Athletes vitamins and supplements why were they looked down upon?

[@chrisminton8674]

Oi Bohunt were just having a chinwag

[@anngulliver5964]

Still the best documentary about doping in sport

[@ig2d]

Panodrama

[@jordanon95]

Free tommy robinson

[@neillp3827]

I don't get it though if u win by cheating, in your own head u can't surely feel like you have "won"

[@mrkipling2201]

I was going to comment the exact same thing. I would rather compete clean and know that I’ve done my best, without the use of chemicals. Yeah you can take performance enhancing drugs and come first in your chosen sport but what’s the point?? Even if you don’t get caught, you still know that it wasn’t really you that won. It was you and the dope.

[@xtrfyzr]

Well, if your belief is that the others do the same u just even out the playing field.

[@neillp3827]

@@xtrfyzr yeah it's sad, plus if u win a gold medal now ul prob become a multi millionaire in endorsements. Not like when it was amateur.

[@201081hero]

John Leonard speaking about the "success" of the Chinese female swimmers, I wonder if he had taken notice of an Irish swimmer who was about to win 3 golds and a bronze...

[@stephenreeds3632]

Can't mention her, she's Irish therefore wonderful.

[@avus-kw2f213]

7:21 oh yas de Deutsche sians is vety goot best in Wold

[@sebastianrapuano]

What is the 'Olympic Ideal'?

[@SuperOlds88]

If you want to know how to cheat, talk to Dean, Mitch or Ryan Crouser. All three of them are experts. Plus ex-U of Oregon throwers, or anybody who trained in Eugene the last 50 years under Bill Bowerman or Bill Dellinger or Tom Heinonen or San Jose, or the Bay Area. We could go down to Southern CA and learn from guys like Bob Kersee or Art Venegas. Dick Brown and Mary Slaney. I could go and on about all the Americans who are experts or used expert help to achieve success. Everybody thinks they are superstar talented people, nope just a bunch of cheaters. You can never say well everybody is doing it so its not cheating, if everybody does it then everybody is a cheater, simple. Have a nice day.

[@kkobwatchin]

Interesting intro considering such dominance in all time best across HS events. Proof for all cheaters should be easy to accumulate but people just off to the side of the cheaters won't come forward.

[@yvonnewilliams8800]

Start testing any potential athlete months in advance.

[@andystevenson5067]

The 84 games were known as the “growth hormone games” all the US athletes were doping.

[@stuartbedford6344]

Then if every body doing it then everybody is cheating simple

[@BUICKv81]

All use ?

[@user-co1gi7yd2r]

Juu, suuri osa huippuluokan urheilijoista

[@tomperkins4965]

This is dishonor in the sport games most of the time

[@chrisminton8674]

Lol

[@robertoddiaz7323]

How about the soviet volleyball women team that won the gold medal in seoul 1988 summer olympics took enhanced substances without getting caught unlike Ben Johnson was

[@jackssmirkingrevenge9365]

just do all round year testing of the main medal hopes, that would sort it out. that something as simple as that hasnt been done in this day and age of massive budgets prolly tells you all you need to know

[@user-co1gi7yd2r]

Hard to enforce it has been done sometimes with some athletes

[@oluhamilton2121]

What....GRUGS?!?

[@ap5113]

Griffith joyner

[@user-hc9jg7bt4p]

И эти люди, запрещали нашим спортсменам,ковырять пальцами в носу?Ну-ну

[@user-co1gi7yd2r]

Ронхул Маггот хипокриты. Извини, я не знаю как писать эту слову

[@stuartbedford6344]

The on offs don't need drugs but the others di simple

[@isaacfalk-drake3063]

Nathan and brin are in love

[@chrisminton8674]

Shut up you jokeman

[@brinsullivan9247]

I agree

[@chrisminton8674]

I’ve come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass and I’m all out of bubble gum

[@alsoran6832]

It's all about the money and celebrity.

[@NickyP902]

Things haven't changed today , except the methods . There all on gear. Don't be nieve

[@josefserf1926]

Investigative journalism before big business took over. It makes a mockery of all sports to introduce rules you can't enforce. 50 years later and it's worse than ever. Give up the pretence of testing.

[@nickievandermerwe1582]

So Britain was always salty when losing in sports?

[@kurtfrancis4621]

The commentator is butchering Angela Issajenko's last name. The "j" is prounced as a "y", not a "j".

[@DamonRagnar]

its not cheating if everyone is doing it

[@MarkL-we8uk]

Allow all PEDs and be done with it

[@wheresbaby7783]

The guy who got out of prison is a boob

[@paulouk83]

Diane williams and angela issajenko admit flo jo same build if not bigger by 88 still holds world record denys. Kratocvilova denys and she was even bigger.

[@woolybugger1962]

Angela is an embarrassment. Thank god she was eventually caught

[@666dr]

She gave a real account of what happens woolybugger

[@tabarafall1111]

@@666dr true, she took the l when she was caught. Didn't blame anyone but herself and told the truth about was what really going on...

[@Hever73]

I don't think so she is just being on honest! lol!

[@timw4369]

thye were all usning them since 1968 the russians fully admitted it.

[@Hever73]

The IOC or what ever should lift up the ban on Russia cz all of these crap have turned into something political ugly and unfair.

[@Mighty-ue7bt]

what??

[@perarnenilssen1460]

Close down the olympic shit.

[@mikerichardson60]

The only way to ensure a fair Olympics is to ditch this clean nonsense and let them do whatever they like. If you then choose to compete drug free that’s your free will. Otherwise the urge to chest the system for monetary gain is just too enticing.

[@user-co1gi7yd2r]

Mike Richardson exactly

[@jeremyweems4916]

I'm for this.

[@montanacorp]

it would be dope

[@MsNooneinparticular]

Yeah. Shit got way out of hand in the '80s. They should just throw out all the records from this era because nobody is ever going to beat them clean.

[@laurenroche1938]

poop haha

[@chriswaterman3823]

At least Mark Henry was and continues to be as clean as a Dutch whistle . HA HA HA HA HA HA FUCKIN ' HA !