4 more ways to integrate 1/(e^x+1)

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Flammable Maths

Flammable Maths

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@mipmip4575
@mipmip4575 6 жыл бұрын
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@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
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@0xfeedcafe
@0xfeedcafe 6 жыл бұрын
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@mipmip4575
@mipmip4575 6 жыл бұрын
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@Soundillusions94xyz
@Soundillusions94xyz 6 жыл бұрын
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@gardening_vibes
@gardening_vibes 4 жыл бұрын
Hey can anyone explain the derivation of formula for 1/(1-x) in the last process? Ir any derivation of the Formulas link?
@alexandretlili775
@alexandretlili775 6 жыл бұрын
14:33 I think this formula only works when the absolute value of the argument is strictly less than one ; so you are restricting your primitive to ]-inf,0[
@jorgeramos597
@jorgeramos597 Жыл бұрын
That geometric series only works for -1
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x 6 жыл бұрын
Since cosh(x) - sinh(x) = exp(-x), this "first way" is literally the first way of the last four. To nitpick a bit more, the last method is risky since the formula you start out with only holds for |x| < 1. Interesting that a restricted way yields an unrestricted result.
@justwest
@justwest 6 жыл бұрын
15:17 why can we interchange it? which argument would you give? I always struggle with those
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x 6 жыл бұрын
Der Justus You can interchange because of the linearity of the integral, you know, i. e. the integral of a sum of functions is equal to the sum of the integrals of each function. You have done that before yourself (I think), here he only uses the fancy sum sign.
@justwest
@justwest 6 жыл бұрын
No, that's not right respectively not enough. The limitprocess involved in the infinite sum ruins your argument.
@justwest
@justwest 6 жыл бұрын
I pondered and I'd have argued that by the Lebesgue-Konvergence theorem (or dominance konvergence theorem) one can interchange the limit and the integral sign since (-1)^n*e^nx is measurable since its continous, even though I am not even sure with this argument and if all conditions are fulfilled. I'd like to hear Flammables opinion or thought process behind what he stated.
@justwest
@justwest 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, no question it would be too much for a video. But still, as it's mathematics, those steps should be clea, arguable and understood. Anyway, which semester are you in atm, flammable? Also, I may summon BPRP's help for our concern, haha^^
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x 6 жыл бұрын
Der Justus Please excuse my inappropriate response. Thanks for reminding me of the limit in the infinite sum.
@samuelbam3748
@samuelbam3748 6 жыл бұрын
At the beginning u could also just multiple the top and bottom by e^(-x) and than let u = 1 + e^(-x) so that you don't have to split it in an even and odd function
@gammaknife167
@gammaknife167 6 жыл бұрын
At 3:42 would it be easier to use inspection - the top is the negative differential of the bottom, so it just integrates to -ln(1+coshx - sinhx) right?
@gammaknife167
@gammaknife167 6 жыл бұрын
Fair!
@injanju
@injanju 6 жыл бұрын
please do 1 week of putnam exam integrals hehe
@erggish
@erggish 6 жыл бұрын
@8:53 , that was a super cringy but funny move there XD
@curiousminds301
@curiousminds301 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please solve integral from 0 to pi/2 of x^2 cos^n(x) dx please🙏🙏
@saschatrumper
@saschatrumper 6 жыл бұрын
Question: Isn't (1-x)^-1 and therefore sum(x^n ; n=[0,inf)) defined for |x|0 . so the integral is defined only for x
@benjaminkachalla4062
@benjaminkachalla4062 6 жыл бұрын
Can you try this please. .. Limit.as n→ infinity of [ dx/(1+x²)ⁿ] the integral takes bonds from 0 to 1
@xAsadullahx
@xAsadullahx 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Another method would be to let x=ln(u) and so dx=1/u and then use PFD. That's the way I've always solved this integral.
@kironsk001
@kironsk001 6 жыл бұрын
how integrate x³/e^x+1??
@sansamman4619
@sansamman4619 6 жыл бұрын
welcome back to another segment offff: daddy teach's se.. math at 2:50 can you multiply by one outside the dx that can make my life alot easier if you can i always erase the dx and put it outside...
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 6 жыл бұрын
Geometric series converges only for abs(q) < 1 then i doubt that last way will be acceptable
@barscerci9777
@barscerci9777 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to integrate 1/(1+lnx)
@barscerci9777
@barscerci9777 6 жыл бұрын
Flammable Maths Even with an approximation?
@sss-ol3dl
@sss-ol3dl 6 жыл бұрын
You can absolutely find a taylors series and integrate that for an approximation, but I believe it will only be valid for 0
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 6 жыл бұрын
Ei - exponential integral
@jackvernian7779
@jackvernian7779 6 жыл бұрын
Ma boi, could you recommend me some books on calculus+mathematical physics that you currently use and that are in english? I'm studying ME, but am really interested in physics and mathematics and it is very likely that I'll end up studying both later after I'm done with ME. Just for the reference, last "serious" mathematics course I finished in my study was Infinite Series(incl. Fourier and Taylor), Diff. Eqs., Laplace Transforms and basics of Mathematical Physics. And I'm doing statistics(basic) right now, so not exactly much is going on. Thanks!
@JDRudie-ec4xq
@JDRudie-ec4xq 6 жыл бұрын
why didn't you just integrate cos/sin as cot (x) in the second method?
@0xVikas
@0xVikas 6 жыл бұрын
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@cipherunity
@cipherunity 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder you never used the following formula to make your solutions simple. ∫(derivative of f(x))/(f(x)) dx = ln (f(x)) + c If you have a function in the denominator and its derivative is in the numerator, you only need to take log of the function for integration. For example in you solution ∫cos⁡ø/sin⁡ø dø = ln (sin⁡ø) + C you do not have to make substitution. Any way 4 solutions of this problems are wonderful.
@vkilgore11
@vkilgore11 6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful :).
@-CE-SumitKumar
@-CE-SumitKumar 2 жыл бұрын
Divide numerator and denominator by e^x
@nik_semperlotti1062
@nik_semperlotti1062 4 жыл бұрын
How you assume e^x
@Legacies87
@Legacies87 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@marcioamaral7511
@marcioamaral7511 6 жыл бұрын
Now that's a great video! to lift up my day I never asked, where are you from? Please 8 ways in 1/1+cos(x)
@sss-ol3dl
@sss-ol3dl 6 жыл бұрын
Heres one way, substitute t = tan(x/2)
@DhirajKumar-rx8hi
@DhirajKumar-rx8hi 6 жыл бұрын
Please solve the Problems of IIT JEE Advanced ( Entrance Exam for IITs at undergraduate level in India).
@michaelshen436
@michaelshen436 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant tricks
@MrDenver009
@MrDenver009 6 жыл бұрын
intro song please?
@MrDenver009
@MrDenver009 6 жыл бұрын
it doesn't sound like it
@MrDenver009
@MrDenver009 6 жыл бұрын
link?
@MrDenver009
@MrDenver009 6 жыл бұрын
I found it. Thank you! Great videos by the way
@sarpkaplan4449
@sarpkaplan4449 6 жыл бұрын
ı felt very differented after this vid :d
@sarpkaplan4449
@sarpkaplan4449 6 жыл бұрын
i play on 2x speed
@scottwilliams7672
@scottwilliams7672 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@ІгорСапунов
@ІгорСапунов 2 жыл бұрын
1=1+exp(x)-exp(x). So, we have integral(1)-integral(exp(x)/(exp(x)+1))=x-ln(exp(x)+1)+C
@ClownEdits
@ClownEdits 6 жыл бұрын
haha after trying this myself this feels very interesting
@abkoobxyoo1448
@abkoobxyoo1448 6 жыл бұрын
Good ideal
@michaelshen436
@michaelshen436 6 жыл бұрын
To sophisticated. Just 1/(e^x+1)=1-e^x/(e^x+1), and integrating e^x/(e^x+1) is trivial.
@michaelshen436
@michaelshen436 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I didn't watch the video on first four solutions...
@___xyz___
@___xyz___ 6 жыл бұрын
boi this dφs my intuition!
@jackvernian7779
@jackvernian7779 6 жыл бұрын
cosh and sinh: integral days
@dorianvoydie4698
@dorianvoydie4698 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao why don't you just add and subtract e^x in numerator : 1 = (1+ e^x) - e^x So you get : The integral of 1.dx minus the integral of e^x over (e^x +1) dx... So : x - ln(1+e^x)
@NoNTr1v1aL
@NoNTr1v1aL 6 жыл бұрын
1:16 Looks like dat boi's become a man😏
@空想天则
@空想天则 6 жыл бұрын
why not let u=e^x+1 ,it's much easier.
@空想天则
@空想天则 6 жыл бұрын
alright then...I like your videos:)
@空想天则
@空想天则 6 жыл бұрын
ok, I know. By the way, why are you so interested in solving these integrations?I mean I know it's interesting to use different methods to solve these problems,but does these technics or ideas really help you in your everyday work?
@timothyaugustine7093
@timothyaugustine7093 6 жыл бұрын
空想天则 Lol, obviously not if you're not working in math field or studying math but that's not the point.
@gammaknife167
@gammaknife167 6 жыл бұрын
SINCH XDDD Are you purposely shunning its proper pronunciation of shine?
@gammaknife167
@gammaknife167 6 жыл бұрын
Every time you say cinch, a puppy dies.
@user-pn9zm8qg7k
@user-pn9zm8qg7k 6 жыл бұрын
Noice!
@yxlxfxf
@yxlxfxf 6 жыл бұрын
integrate (ln x)^2018/(x+1) from 1/e to e
@JB-in4dj
@JB-in4dj 6 жыл бұрын
You are cool.
@jeffzheng1913
@jeffzheng1913 Жыл бұрын
This method is too complicated. dx/(1+exp(x)) = exp(-x) dx/(1+exp(-x)) = -d(exp(-x))/(1+exp(-x)), so integral result is -In(1+exp(-x))= x - ln(1+exp(x))
@bouteilledargile
@bouteilledargile 6 жыл бұрын
First? Is that still relevant? No.
@fidgetspinner1050
@fidgetspinner1050 6 жыл бұрын
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@justwest
@justwest 6 жыл бұрын
First
@justwest
@justwest 6 жыл бұрын
1=3 in F2 ma boi
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