Mathematicians vs. Physics Classes be like...

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Flammable Maths

Flammable Maths

Күн бұрын

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@yikes7918
@yikes7918 5 жыл бұрын
My physics teacher explained us the difference between a mathematician and a physicist. Imagine both are at a traffic light, the mathematician will wait until the traffic light indicates he can cross the street and he will even check whether all cars are stopped, and he will arrive safely at the other end. On the other hand, the physicist won't even look at the traffic light and will directly cross the street, if he arrives safely, it means the traffic light was likely to be green and if he doesn't, it means it wasn't green.
@alexchimi7093
@alexchimi7093 5 жыл бұрын
If he does, it could be green or red or yellow, he has to do it again just to make sure
@thatfangirl1389
@thatfangirl1389 5 жыл бұрын
With that given example...physicists seem like people who are living a very "dangerous" life.👀
@yikes7918
@yikes7918 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexchimi7093 That's why physicists always repeat their experiences a large number of times.
@DynestiGTI
@DynestiGTI 5 жыл бұрын
What does that make the traffic light? Metaphorically speaking.
@yaboiplank6764
@yaboiplank6764 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not very smart so I'm just gonna say clever
@kmbbmj5857
@kmbbmj5857 5 жыл бұрын
Mathematician: You can't divide by 0. Physicist: It will cancel out with another infinity later on.
@drigondii
@drigondii 4 жыл бұрын
Engineer: We’re going to assume this division by zero is negative and all others are positive. Why? Because that’s going to give us a real solution and not a multiple of i, that’s why.
@IceSpoon
@IceSpoon 4 жыл бұрын
@@drigondii Storytime: So we were working on those square roots in my Calculus class, and we noticed the teacher was only grabbing the positive solutions, without explanation. So one of us asked why he wasn't adding anything to explain the negative solutions. He looked calmly to us and said: "you're environmental engineers. If you grab the negative solution, it means the river is going uphill". We all nodded in shame.
@ayo4637
@ayo4637 4 жыл бұрын
OMG 💀💀😂
@DaveJ6515
@DaveJ6515 4 жыл бұрын
Engineer: noone will notice.
@coulthard1984
@coulthard1984 4 жыл бұрын
Haha that was gold man
@Mysoi123
@Mysoi123 2 жыл бұрын
Mathematician: Let's find out the formula to calculate the shape of a human head. Physicist: Let's pretend that it is a perfect sphere.
@NighthawkRPL
@NighthawkRPL Жыл бұрын
it minecraftin time!
@bobo-cc1xw
@bobo-cc1xw Жыл бұрын
Engineer cad says its 4.
@crowbar_the_rogue
@crowbar_the_rogue 11 ай бұрын
The first thing you need to know about physics is that π = 3 and π² = 10.
@miscreatedmonster2.022
@miscreatedmonster2.022 8 ай бұрын
@@crowbar_the_rogue​Wtf. Someone explain please 🥺
@KKB45123
@KKB45123 6 ай бұрын
@@crowbar_the_rogue😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jankom.7783
@jankom.7783 5 жыл бұрын
Mathematician: we have to analyze everything through with logic, so that we know how to apply it. Physicist: let's poke it, and see what happens.
@NovaWarrior77
@NovaWarrior77 5 жыл бұрын
Poking it is more practical! - A physics student
@NovaWarrior77
@NovaWarrior77 5 жыл бұрын
@ab ab yes sir!
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie 5 жыл бұрын
ab ab LIES! WITHOUT MATH THERE WOULD BE NO PHYSICISTS! How would they even know about anything, they don't even know what happens if you ram 2 rocks together. :P
@cyclic-1033
@cyclic-1033 5 жыл бұрын
@@NovaWarrior77 Nice picture...
@NovaWarrior77
@NovaWarrior77 5 жыл бұрын
@@cyclic-1033 what are the odds!
@razzmatazz1974
@razzmatazz1974 5 жыл бұрын
hahaha i remember when i was studying physics, there was another guy who was graduating in math and physics at the same time and used to interrupt all the time with comments like this. we lost a lot of time. until the professor, who was a guy who looked like a heavy metal musician and was not very patient, told him "Boy, we are physicists. We dont give a fuck".
@DreckbobBratpfanne
@DreckbobBratpfanne 5 жыл бұрын
What an answer xD 👍
@stonecobra6218
@stonecobra6218 5 жыл бұрын
👍🏼😂
@VishalAnand24
@VishalAnand24 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I read it in Kratos voice
@kaneaustin8708
@kaneaustin8708 4 жыл бұрын
But how can you not give a fuck if you're wrong, what this video confuses me, I don't study maths or physics
@ЯфКДВНСКБНСДГДЙФВБЦНВВН
@ЯфКДВНСКБНСДГДЙФВБЦНВВН 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaneaustin8708 I guess because a lot of these small details are not really as relevant to physics as in mathematics. Physicists are more concerned with using mathematics to model the real world and applying it to problems than all of the minutae that mathematicians are interested in, such as the fact that some function is differentiable everywhere besides 0. Mathematics as a subject is also sort of philosophical in that it stresses proving one's arguments true via proofs. So, with this in mind, it might be safe to assume that some of the people who like math, especially the logical and rigorous side of it, might be annoying to the more concretely thinking physicist who does not want to philosophize and debate constantly.
@chriss5821
@chriss5821 3 жыл бұрын
I just love coming back to these videos like twice a semester and understanding the jokes a little bit more each time
@PapaFlammy69
@PapaFlammy69 3 жыл бұрын
:D
@harnarius
@harnarius 5 жыл бұрын
“and by higher order, I mean after the first term” I FUCKI G CHOKED
@danciagar
@danciagar 5 жыл бұрын
Every time you using Newtonian Physic instead of Relativistism, that is exactly what you are doing.
@MSDOS128
@MSDOS128 5 жыл бұрын
@John Doe relativity is not a correct representation, though it's way closer to reality than classical mechanics (I'm sure you know the difference, just saying)
@CharcoalBlasterdog
@CharcoalBlasterdog 5 жыл бұрын
@John Doe I think he means Newtonian mechanics was never falsified experimentally either until new discoveries were made. Just because relativity describes all of the observations now doesn't mean it always will
@alexandrezani
@alexandrezani 5 жыл бұрын
I love how that always happens without any argument whatsoever about why the first term has to be the most significant one.
@elijahsokoni7997
@elijahsokoni7997 5 жыл бұрын
Discrete Mathematicians: Yes
@pyglik2296
@pyglik2296 5 жыл бұрын
Basically: Physicist: Let's make our lives easier by assumptions and aproximations. Mathematician: No.
@massecl
@massecl 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't make life easier, but possible at all. Already the three bodies problem can't be solved. Most of maths is inapplicable in physics.
@hoaxyu8763
@hoaxyu8763 5 жыл бұрын
There is a whole chapter in calculus about approximations and linearization........
@InfiniteHarmonics
@InfiniteHarmonics 5 жыл бұрын
@@hoaxyu8763 No
@anieee96
@anieee96 5 жыл бұрын
hoax yu yes it’s very deep
@slackerengi2401
@slackerengi2401 5 жыл бұрын
Physicist are Engineers cousins? The more you assume, the more you get paid
@francoisperrin7397
@francoisperrin7397 Жыл бұрын
When mathematicians and physicists work well together, they produce astonishing science. However, they usually don't get along so physicists tend to do nonsensical mathematics and mathematicians do abstract mathematics without any applications for centuries to come
@Swift-mr5zi
@Swift-mr5zi 4 жыл бұрын
This is just like having a philosophy student in a law or politics class
@paulkrimmel6384
@paulkrimmel6384 4 жыл бұрын
AustrianSchoolÜbermensch Ja genau du hast recht, dann gibt es da noch die Geistesteswissenschaftler... die Menschen die es nicht geschafft haben was richtiges zu studieren. 😉
@zoheil
@zoheil 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Krimmel Nicht lustig
@kurosakiIchigo9626
@kurosakiIchigo9626 4 жыл бұрын
LMBO
@dershogun6396
@dershogun6396 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulkrimmel6384 ohne Philosophie gäbe es sowas wie Mathe garnicht. Mathe baut auf Logik auf und Logik ist ein Gebiet der Philosophie.
@anotherliluselessshit1402
@anotherliluselessshit1402 3 жыл бұрын
@@kurosakiIchigo9626 Pakistan best
@Datboy1991
@Datboy1991 5 жыл бұрын
Theorem: if you go the gym and work out, your physical condition will improve. Proof: exercise
@nsa7637
@nsa7637 5 жыл бұрын
More like exercise disproves the theorem 😝
@vinisherdaotaku3241
@vinisherdaotaku3241 5 жыл бұрын
TriGgeRrEd : has to be in “if, then” form
@kylilmorrow2116
@kylilmorrow2116 5 жыл бұрын
This is not a mathematical statement :D
@aurelioreyes9565
@aurelioreyes9565 5 жыл бұрын
xD, like Calculus of Michael Spivak .
@coreymartinsen4408
@coreymartinsen4408 5 жыл бұрын
Counterexample: Consider the case of a gym bro lifting too much weight and tearing muscles / dropping bar on his face. Clearly not true in general.
@Vojtaniz01
@Vojtaniz01 2 жыл бұрын
My physics professor at the university: "If any matematician saw this, they would rip their hair off, but we will divide the whole equation by the dx".
@Stephmusiculture
@Stephmusiculture 5 жыл бұрын
Programmer : Is there an algorithm to solve this more efficiently?
@THB192
@THB192 4 жыл бұрын
Programmer: Well... a first approximation of the sqrt from (n/2)-0x5F3759DF should be close enough. But only if it's a 32-bit float..
@wombologist1377
@wombologist1377 4 жыл бұрын
Manager: can we solve this quicker by hiring a couple more people?
@Jupblup
@Jupblup 4 жыл бұрын
Manager: Can you write me a code to do that more efficiently? Programmer: Sure Manager: You're fired, I don't need you anymore.
@IVIasterIVIind
@IVIasterIVIind 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jupblup And that is why you make sure your code requires some maintenance, and noone else can understand it.
@CottidaeSEA
@CottidaeSEA 4 жыл бұрын
@@IVIasterIVIind No documentation and arbitrary dependencies just to make the one who reads the code have to jump around a lot. Perfectly cooked spaghetti!
@jrr3613
@jrr3613 4 жыл бұрын
When faced with a problem: Mathematician: I cannot prove, I'm stuck! Physicist: I solved it, but it only applies to spherical chickens in vacuum Engineer: Let me show you how is done
@technoultimategaming2999
@technoultimategaming2999 4 жыл бұрын
Programmer: It's Plagiarisim time!
@hungryplate400
@hungryplate400 3 жыл бұрын
Also engineers: π^2=g.
@jrr3613
@jrr3613 3 жыл бұрын
@@hungryplate400 😂 very true
@ПавлоСурженко
@ПавлоСурженко 3 жыл бұрын
@@hungryplate400 I mean if you use the original definition of the meter (the seconds pendulum one, not the 1/10000000 of the distance from the North Pole to Paris) than this approximation would actually be exact. Unfortunately, the value of g differs in different places, so we can't use this definition, but that approximation is not just a high school trick. It's akin to pretending the density of water is 1000 kg/m^3 exactly (though more inexact I'll give you that).
@blitxaac
@blitxaac 3 жыл бұрын
@Ookami Panzer *Our* code
@abdullahmohamed6276
@abdullahmohamed6276 4 жыл бұрын
Physicist : the gravity is a curvature of space-time Mathematician: a vector is a vector bitch
@angeldude101
@angeldude101 Жыл бұрын
Do you mean an arrow, or something that can be added and scaled? Because matrices, functions, and polynomials are vectors.
@rindal3042
@rindal3042 Жыл бұрын
@@angeldude101 No, they aren’t. Both matrices and polynomials are functions and functions describe the relationship of elements between sets, their values are not necessarily even numbers and can’t be generalized as vectors. An “Arrow” is whats often used as a visual aid for vectors.
@angeldude101
@angeldude101 Жыл бұрын
​@@rindal3042 Vectors are not arrows. Arrows can be vectors, but most vectors are not arrows. The only requirement for something to be a vector is the ability to add and scale them. Arrows can do this. So can polynomials and matrices. Polynomials and matrices are also functions as you said. You can even represent them in terms of a basis. An NxM matrix is a NM-dimensional vector that can act as a function on other matrices to get a new matrix, or on arrows to get a new arrow. A polynomial is an arbitrary-dimensional vector, with the nth basis vector being x^n. x can itself be a vector with a well defined multiplication operation, which polynomials and matrices both are. There is absolutely nothing stopping you from plugging a polynomial as the input to another polynomial. I feel the need to mention that ℝeal numbers are also 1-dimensional vectors with 1 as the sole basis vector.
@angeldude101
@angeldude101 Жыл бұрын
@Lucas Fernandes I'm not saying that vectors are polynomials. I'm saying that polynomials are vectors. Polynomials ⊊ vectors. Functions in general ⊊ vectors, but you can only really call functions arrows if you can point your arrows in uncountably infinite dimensions, since they possess a coordinate for every single ℝeal number in their domain. "To be clear, I see arrows as concept more general that straight line oriented segment." That's fair, but not a very common position. Most instances I'm aware of only care about the start and end of the arrow, and that the path it takes doesn't matter, so it may as well just be straight.
@propoop6991
@propoop6991 Жыл бұрын
@@LucasFernandes-oy7pjHave you ever read an advanced linear algebra book? If not go to the second chapter of linear algebra by Friedburg (4th edition free online)
@lolscience1979
@lolscience1979 5 жыл бұрын
Engineer: I don’t see what’s wrong with either approach...
@mera3666
@mera3666 5 жыл бұрын
yup!
@iuliibo7913
@iuliibo7913 4 жыл бұрын
Just go and stick some rocks together or something like that
@FormedUnique
@FormedUnique 4 жыл бұрын
Not my experience with engineers in the slightest. To me it seems engineers are very narrow visioned and all problems have to derive from their area of study for example i worked as a mechanical engineer at a company. There was a problem with our water flow. I shit you not the other mechanical engineer said it HAD TO BE A PROBLEM WITH THE WATER PUMP, IT HAD TO BE A MECHANICAL ISSUE. He stood waste deep in water in a lightning storm for 8 hours doing that look at a pump until i came in and found that the problem was simply a blockage in a pipe. This is exactly my experience with almost every single engineer i have met. They simply can't think outside the box
@jovan8442
@jovan8442 4 жыл бұрын
@@FormedUnique You obviously haven't met many of them
@FormedUnique
@FormedUnique 4 жыл бұрын
@@jovan8442 ive met quite a lot actually
@Schrodinger_
@Schrodinger_ 4 жыл бұрын
Physicist in mathematician's class: _Makes fun of physicists' lack of rigor_ Mathematician in physicist's class: _Makes fun of physicists' lack of rigor_
@MrSlothJunior
@MrSlothJunior 4 жыл бұрын
True, but this one also makes fun of the mathematician's need of rigor.
@Grassmpl
@Grassmpl 3 жыл бұрын
Physicist to Mathematician: Hey we also use that sort of notation but we have no idea why.
@alejandroontibon7749
@alejandroontibon7749 3 жыл бұрын
@@Grassmpl It's like, Im using sort of that thing and it works, but I don't know why, but meh it works xd
@gustavomora5717
@gustavomora5717 3 жыл бұрын
As a math student who took Calculus with a physicist as professor, I totally agree.
@pedrosso0
@pedrosso0 3 жыл бұрын
​@@MrSlothJunior how can you make fun of that?
@oppsybob
@oppsybob 3 жыл бұрын
"This proof is trivial you can just do it on your own for practice." -Official Moto of Physics Professors
@AlexanderCook-cf9cg
@AlexanderCook-cf9cg Күн бұрын
-Pierre De Fermat
@shablamrobohawk1192
@shablamrobohawk1192 5 жыл бұрын
"If we take the square of the probability amplitude, you are a virgin." LMAO
@donlansdonlans3363
@donlansdonlans3363 5 жыл бұрын
Those reasoning skills
@Bippah
@Bippah 5 жыл бұрын
That was actually brilliant
@coryellis1877
@coryellis1877 5 жыл бұрын
I died that was frickin funny
@jojo_8989
@jojo_8989 5 жыл бұрын
My mind freaked on this, great logic there
@PanchoKnivesForever
@PanchoKnivesForever 5 жыл бұрын
I DIED! 😂
@JT-hi1cs
@JT-hi1cs 5 жыл бұрын
I can only trust a math teacher if it has foreign accent.
@kevinbarber2795
@kevinbarber2795 5 жыл бұрын
Jasc Tomm Had an Indian math professor (great guy), can confirm.
@everything71
@everything71 5 жыл бұрын
My guy what do you mean "it"
@友-16
@友-16 5 жыл бұрын
@@everything71 Most likely a non-native speaker. When learning English, "they" sounds plural, the neutral "he" doesn't seem used anymore, and "he or she" (while technically correct regardless of political correctness) is too verbose.
@davidrain71
@davidrain71 5 жыл бұрын
@@everything71 We are talking about a math teacher, way over Frankenstein's monster level.
@AverchenkoMiroslav
@AverchenkoMiroslav 5 жыл бұрын
@@everything71 Didn't you know math professors are robots? You have just been woken, my dude.
@Ehrentraud
@Ehrentraud 2 жыл бұрын
I remember a mathematics prof teaching a lecture on stochastic differential equations to physicists saying: „Teaching to physicists is like being a grand parent: All the fun, no responsibility!“
@Trixbeat
@Trixbeat 4 жыл бұрын
An engineer, a physicist and a mathematician traveling in Wales for the first time notice a black sheep. Engineer: Oh, sheep in Wales are black. Physicist: Oh, there exists black sheep in Wales. Mathematician: Oh, there exists at least one sheep in Wales, and at least one side of it is black.
@atharvakulkarni1892
@atharvakulkarni1892 4 жыл бұрын
Literature enthusiast: ba ba black sheep, have you any wool? Ye sir, yes sir, three bags full
@dannygjk
@dannygjk 4 жыл бұрын
The mathematician wouldn't assume it was a sheep based only on looking at the object.
@BlueRabbitification
@BlueRabbitification 4 жыл бұрын
WAIT. AS A GERMAN. HELP ME OUT HERE. black sheep "EXISTS"? WHY. WHY SINGULAR? WUT? Do i have to use the singular just because the word sheep works as both? THEN WHY IS IT "THE POLICE ARE"? KILL ME
@manswind3417
@manswind3417 4 жыл бұрын
@@BlueRabbitification Umm, I guess you're right; the guy who wrote the original comment wasn't really intending to dodge any grammatical inaccuracies I figure. But yes, in general, both the words: 'exist' and exists' are acceptable if they're referring to equivocal words such as 'sheep' which can be singular or plural. Here though, it is evidently plural, thus 'exist'.
@BlueRabbitification
@BlueRabbitification 4 жыл бұрын
@@manswind3417 you just safed the last drop of sanety that was left inside of the potato i now call my brain.thank you
@alexandersanchez9138
@alexandersanchez9138 5 жыл бұрын
Died at "if it's *in* physics, it's *in* -vertible."
@OchiiDinUmbraa
@OchiiDinUmbraa 5 жыл бұрын
@@PapaFlammy69 If you can solve Product from k=2 to n-1 of (sin(n/k*pi) ) ill give you 100 000 dollars. Its looks like the one you solved in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqaUoqarpbuEns0 , except you have n/k instead of k/n. The solution needs to be made out of a finite number of terms. No joke. Ill actually give you the money.
@GeodesicBruh
@GeodesicBruh 5 жыл бұрын
Anonimatus54125 wut
@noether9447
@noether9447 5 жыл бұрын
@@PapaFlammy69 You actually going to solve Anonimatus54125's question?
@u.v.s.5583
@u.v.s.5583 5 жыл бұрын
If it is a matrix it is in-vertible in-the-sense of the in-famous Moore-Penrose In-Verse, denoted by a bloody fucking DAGGER!
@YounesLayachi
@YounesLayachi 5 жыл бұрын
Reversible ... >.>
@Joghurt2499
@Joghurt2499 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a bachelors physics student and in a relationship with a mathematician who is about to start his PhD program. Let's just say, we have our moments
@PapaFlammy69
@PapaFlammy69 3 жыл бұрын
:D
@tofu8676
@tofu8676 5 жыл бұрын
"why are we even interested in something that we can't solve analytically" *numerics teachers disliked this*
@gdtoob
@gdtoob 5 жыл бұрын
Do people actually ask that question?
@CHROMIUMHEROmusic
@CHROMIUMHEROmusic 5 жыл бұрын
why can't some things be solved analytically?
@TheLuckySpades
@TheLuckySpades 5 жыл бұрын
@@CHROMIUMHEROmusic since we only have so many tools and "standard" functions, often you will have a problem, cou canprove a solution exists, but you can't describe it in those standard functions One of the oldest examples are stuff like squaring the circle if you only use compas and straightedge, or general roots of polynomials with degree higher than 5 using only +,-,×,÷,n-th roots and n-th powers There are other examples like the undefined integral of sin(x)/x or of e^(-x^2)
@CellarDoor-rt8tt
@CellarDoor-rt8tt 5 жыл бұрын
CHROMIUM HERO if you take the harmonic oscillator example they showed in the video. If you were to not approximate a solution, what you would get in the end is a non-elementary integral where representing it would require infinite terms or the use of the error function. In otherwords, you can’t get a perfectly accurate solution making it part of a non-analytical class of problems
@noz3bo
@noz3bo 5 жыл бұрын
Mathematician: I can't solve it analytically, therefore it's ugly and boring. Physicist: I can solve it analytically, therefore everything interesting has already been said and done. Let's move on to the really interesting stuff.
@denisdelgadokikumotogracia7938
@denisdelgadokikumotogracia7938 5 жыл бұрын
If that guy takes engineering classes he is gonna have a heart attack hahaha
@everlastingideas8625
@everlastingideas8625 4 жыл бұрын
I was in his shoes in an engineering class (process), it made me sad and depressed how they integrate and differentiate without the slightest care.
@ivanplis5554
@ivanplis5554 4 жыл бұрын
@@everlastingideas8625 And we are very proud of that!
@sabrinalin2773
@sabrinalin2773 4 жыл бұрын
@@everlastingideas8625 an answer is an answer 😂
@everlastingideas8625
@everlastingideas8625 4 жыл бұрын
@@ivanplis5554 There is a place in hell for the lots of you 😂😂😂
@everlastingideas8625
@everlastingideas8625 4 жыл бұрын
@@sabrinalin2773 Technically, you re not wrong but some of us are sensitive souls 😂
@davidraveh5966
@davidraveh5966 3 жыл бұрын
This is painful, I was so confused how my physics professor magically turned sin(x) to x in a pendulum. Approximation hurts, but all wounds heal with time... Update: I am now both a physics and math major, and I now see nothing unethical here.
@Grassmpl
@Grassmpl 3 жыл бұрын
Use MVT to prove that 0 is the only real solution to sin x = x.
@doomkoff9932
@doomkoff9932 3 жыл бұрын
Thats valid at low values of x
@pedrosso0
@pedrosso0 3 жыл бұрын
@@doomkoff9932 Only at x=0
@VansLudwig
@VansLudwig 3 жыл бұрын
one hell of a scar
@jyothikamalesh7586
@jyothikamalesh7586 3 жыл бұрын
@@doomkoff9932 yuuup lower values for the sine function indeed results in themselves
@wallstreetoneil
@wallstreetoneil 5 жыл бұрын
True Story - I'm a Stats / Actuarial Maths major. Girlfriend at time was same University in Urban Planning. Asked me for help on her Stats assignment (she had to take this one introductory math course - she was not good at the subject - I was in 4th year). I did the entire easy assignment slowly in front of her showing her every single step (exactly what would be required in the Math Department). She got the assignment back a week later and I got 65% (i blew my mind because it was all 100% correct). I went down to her Lab and confronted her TA and told him everything was absolutely correct. The insanity that went down for the next 30 minutes I will remember for the rest of my life. I was subsequently banned from the building. The story spread to the Math Department to the point that one of my Profs asked if it was me and then see the actual assignment - i management to get it from her, make a copy and gave it to him. As a joke a few weeks later, he started the class reviewing my answer that I was given a 6/10 on. The class was laughing hysterically - at the end he gave me a 9.5/10 because I didn't end the Proof with QED
@gustavowadaslopes2479
@gustavowadaslopes2479 4 жыл бұрын
@Huup Knowing some of my teacher in my engineering course, doing more work than was necessary might be a reason.
@jdenmark1287
@jdenmark1287 4 жыл бұрын
@Huup Simple answer it was an intro stats class taught out of a book with answers by a TA. I dual majored in psychology/biology, minor in chemistry and it happened to me all the time. Psychology was the worse because for the most part they didn't know jack and hated looking bad when you explained exactly why they were wrong. Biology wasn't a lot better when it came to the brain and nervous system, like axon potential and neurotransmitters, for the most part they didn't know the material and tried to bs their way through it.
@Evilanious
@Evilanious 4 жыл бұрын
When I was eleven I got into an argument with my primary school teacher. I maintained that 3/10 was 30% and she maintained it was 33+1/3%. It was pretty funny in retrospect though at the time I was very upset by it. First she had me explain why I thought that so I argued that since 30/3=10=100/10 we could conclude that 30/100 was 3/10. A good argument in retrospect but presented with the clumsiness you'd expect from an eleven year old. She dismissed that argument on grounds that I do not remember and argued that we should divide 100 by 3 instead to calculate the percentage. I asked her how this worked if we wanted to calculate 4/10 wondering if she could possibly think that this was 25% but here she agreed with me that this would be 40%. I then went through some further examples asking her what 5/10 and 6/10 where. She told me they were 50% and 66+2/3% respectively. I then thought her problem was with multiples of 3 so I asked her what 9/10 was wondering if she would seriously tell me that was 100% but she told me instead that this was 90%.
@jdenmark1287
@jdenmark1287 4 жыл бұрын
@@Evilanious Man that's tough, nothing worse than a grade school teacher without the intelligence to realize they had a kid that needed support and encouragement to continue at higher level than anything they could achieve.
@therubyisyeah1916
@therubyisyeah1916 4 жыл бұрын
Huup well, my phisics teacher can find errors that don't exist
@NoahTopper
@NoahTopper 5 жыл бұрын
"This is not a math class, I don't know why you insist on acting out." Flawless.
@erikhanseisenheber
@erikhanseisenheber 4 жыл бұрын
"But Mr. Madlad, this is really important... to me.
@magma90
@magma90 7 ай бұрын
0:45 um actually, physicists use generalised function and the distributional derivative, which allows for the derivative of any function at any point.
@d_9696
@d_9696 5 жыл бұрын
Marvel: "Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover event in history." Me:
@XThunderBoltFilms
@XThunderBoltFilms 5 жыл бұрын
Marvel: Infinity War , Physics: Infinity but we only consider 1st order terms
@Suavek69
@Suavek69 4 жыл бұрын
"and now we omit this part, becase mathematicians also have to eat, and we arrive at this equation" ~My professor of physics during my engineering degree
@ekosh6266
@ekosh6266 3 жыл бұрын
That means he didn't know how to do it
@laufert7100
@laufert7100 Жыл бұрын
In my physics porfessor's note, while studying forced damped oscillators, he wrote "This is a non-homogeneous second order differential equation, that mathematicians are really good at solving. The result is..."
@yinwong667
@yinwong667 3 жыл бұрын
Mathematician: If it satisfies Fubini's theorem, you can switch the integrals. Physicist: Assume necessary conditions, you can switch the integrals. Engineer: You can always switch the integrals.
@andik70
@andik70 Жыл бұрын
If you look at old physics books they allude to some theorem (like the function is bounded so we can switch integrals, not sure whicb theorem it allludes too). Probably the next generation was also not so sure, they knew the result is correct so the whole discussion was dropped in physics.
@aymuhspunj
@aymuhspunj Жыл бұрын
Mechanical Engineer: lol. Lmao even. Just eyeball it.
@bobo-cc1xw
@bobo-cc1xw Жыл бұрын
Cad monkey = calculator says it's 12 . 10 is a round number but i am American so it's 3 1/5 cheaseburgers
@nightish_one6007
@nightish_one6007 5 жыл бұрын
"... by dropping higher order terms in it's Taylor Series... and by higher order I mean after the first term." If this isn't how you do physics, than you're not doing it right 😂😂😂
@u.v.s.5583
@u.v.s.5583 5 жыл бұрын
You leave only the highest oder that does not cancel out, ok? Ok!
@MajinOthinus
@MajinOthinus 5 жыл бұрын
*Harmonic oscillator at resonance frequency looming menacingly*
@NoNameAtAll2
@NoNameAtAll2 5 жыл бұрын
why not to stop at 0th term?
@MajinOthinus
@MajinOthinus 5 жыл бұрын
@@NoNameAtAll2 Now now, we have to do at least *something* , the Professor doesn't accept just writing the same equation twice as a meaningful difference.....unfortunately.
@pendalink
@pendalink 5 жыл бұрын
nonlinear optics glared at this comment lol
@deathwilldie7741
@deathwilldie7741 5 жыл бұрын
1 = ||^2 is probably the sickest burn in history.
@lordx4641
@lordx4641 4 жыл бұрын
Nein it isnt being a virgin is cool
@alexeysaranchev6118
@alexeysaranchev6118 4 жыл бұрын
@@lordx4641 Prove it.
@lordx4641
@lordx4641 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexeysaranchev6118 lol read some articles about it than coming and whining in here.
@lordx4641
@lordx4641 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexeysaranchev6118 do you know newton was a virgin? Also many philosphers like fredrich and scientists like tesla were so . Those who are well productive do not follow the common matrix
@lordx4641
@lordx4641 4 жыл бұрын
For me mathematicians and inventors are much cooler than any popstar. Also newton has to be one of the coolest ppl who lived on the planet 😎
@m1_1911
@m1_1911 4 жыл бұрын
Okay everyone, find the volume of a cow! Engineer: okay I'll submerge the cow in water and see the volume change. Mathematician: I'm going to slice the cow into geometric figures who's volume I can solve for Physics: well that's easy, first I'll assume the cow is a sphere
@aestheticart4955
@aestheticart4955 3 жыл бұрын
Cow is a sphere 😂😂😂 I’m dead 😵
@Grassmpl
@Grassmpl 3 жыл бұрын
To engineer. Good luck lifting her and not drowning her. Also gotta accurately measure the change in depth of water and surface area of pool. To physicist. Circumscribed or inscribed sphere? To mathematician. Can you guarantee that your will only need to make a finite number of cuts?
@m1_1911
@m1_1911 3 жыл бұрын
@@Grassmpl Engineer: the problem never stated the cow must be alive. Mathematician: so long as I am only attempting to reach a nonzero threshold of accuracy I can guarantee that the number of cuts need not be infinite. Physics: what are those?
@davidbischi
@davidbischi 3 жыл бұрын
@@m1_1911 Machinist to physicist. Damnit you really only looked at Euler and forgot about our boi Chebychev minmax... .-.
@redisforever6952
@redisforever6952 3 жыл бұрын
@@Grassmpl I thought you said circumcised 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@marcelweber7813
@marcelweber7813 4 жыл бұрын
The language of physics is math. And as every useful language, there is some sort of slang. Just get over it, mathematicians.
@ryanalving3785
@ryanalving3785 4 жыл бұрын
That's got to be my favorite explanation of this ever.
@JacqueRoberts
@JacqueRoberts 4 жыл бұрын
So you're saying physics is to Math what ebonics is to English. .... burgers do be needin flippin an ere'thing.
@lawyerandco727
@lawyerandco727 4 жыл бұрын
@Mahissimo You killed it!! 🤣👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
@paul5324
@paul5324 4 жыл бұрын
While math is the language of physics, math in its own right describes the universe even more intricate than physics! Euclidean and Non Euclidean geometry literally explain how the universe works.
@DavidRamirez-ue8gv
@DavidRamirez-ue8gv 4 жыл бұрын
no.
@llawliet2310
@llawliet2310 5 жыл бұрын
absolutely no one: physicists: *t a y l o r e x p a n s i o n*
@uzulim9234
@uzulim9234 4 жыл бұрын
u mean p e r t u r b a t i o n
@bilalhussein9730
@bilalhussein9730 4 жыл бұрын
Strong coupling appears. Run and hide!
@alejandroontibon7749
@alejandroontibon7749 3 жыл бұрын
We also use Laurent expansion :(
@vanlepthien6768
@vanlepthien6768 3 жыл бұрын
There is a sound mathematical basis for using a Taylor expansion.
@llawliet2310
@llawliet2310 3 жыл бұрын
@@vanlepthien6768 yes I'm aware. I am a mathematician lmao
@Peter_1986
@Peter_1986 Жыл бұрын
I have had 2 math courses at my university in Sweden that have been pretty much like both math and physics at the same time; one of them was called "Mathematical Physics" (Matematisk Fysik) and was mainly about the diffusion equation, the Laplace equation and the wave equation, and the other one was called "Applied Mathematics" (Tillämpad Matematik), and was a lot about perturbation theory, approximations of integrals, double pendulums and things like that. I kinda liked those courses, because they _really_ expected us to have experience with multivariable calculus, differential equations and various transformation methods (Fourier Series, Fourier Transform, Laplace Transform etc), as well as a lot of concepts from physics, so they felt very rewarding.
@carokann0964
@carokann0964 4 жыл бұрын
"Often times we have to resort to approximating functions by dropping higher ordered terms in its Taylor series. And by higher order, I mean after the first term." As an avid mathematician, I felt that. LMAO
@PapaFlammy69
@PapaFlammy69 4 жыл бұрын
:D
@Smitology
@Smitology 2 жыл бұрын
"If we're lucky we might need the second term too, but that's only if we want to be EXTREMELY accurate"
@danielranjan6690
@danielranjan6690 2 жыл бұрын
Usually, the second and subsequent term involves square and progressive powers of a term which is very very less than 1 which makes the rest of the terms be so small that they can be easily rounded off.
@abebuckingham8198
@abebuckingham8198 Жыл бұрын
It makes sense when you think about it though. Say you're trying to approximate the Weierstrass function by using small segments as you might when using Euler's Method to solve a differential equation. We can't do it because it's not differentiable, however if we truncate the fourier series that defines it after finitely many terms we do get an infinitely smooth curve that we can solve analytically. However we know that the function is also infinitely wiggly, meaning depending on which term we end with the sign of the derivative may change. This means we should limit our step size to one. We also know that even with just one step we're going to be wrong a priori. We don't really gain anything by calculating the slope more accurately.
@johannesschwenzer1346
@johannesschwenzer1346 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was really funny
@slackerengi2401
@slackerengi2401 5 жыл бұрын
As a engineering student I love the idea of sitting back and getting paid without knowing any of this
@bjap1563
@bjap1563 4 жыл бұрын
Engineers be like: Hey! As long as it works! 😆
@zombiekiller7101
@zombiekiller7101 3 жыл бұрын
Lol pay me 100$ 🥺
@aurorapaisley7453
@aurorapaisley7453 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta do what's practical
@Freddy-kw2mk
@Freddy-kw2mk 3 жыл бұрын
Why argue about who are the smartest: mathematicians, physicists, or engineers. When i was going to school to become a civil engineer, i accepted that physics students were smarter...but math students smarter than engineering students, that's debatable. As engineers, we do specialize, for me to become a structural engineer, I had to go to graduate school because I wanted to make sure that I understood the theory. In the end, we may not be the smartest of the science students but after five years of working in my field, I am making much more than what my physics professor was making...so who cares who is smarter, as long as you enjoy what you do.
@Freddy-kw2mk
@Freddy-kw2mk 3 жыл бұрын
Slacker Engi 2 engineering is a great field and the pay is great! Also, very and I mean, very few of these physics students do groundbreaking things and many go into engineering because they are smart and they know it pays way better and there are more jobs.
@danpatterson8009
@danpatterson8009 2 жыл бұрын
Still remember my first-year physics. Prof wrote the general expression for the 3D wave equation on the board (after guessing the solution) and then proceeded to cross out terms- this one very small, this is about one, we assume the wavelength much smaller than the aperture, etc. I was flabbergasted- you can't throw things out! It's an equation!
@tyrannosaurusimperator
@tyrannosaurusimperator Жыл бұрын
Navier-Stokes. There's a million dollar prize if you can figure out how to solve it without any assumptions. I had a Fluids test where half of it was writing out all of the terms you could cancel and why.
@MatheusSouza-lw9wv
@MatheusSouza-lw9wv Ай бұрын
claro que você pode jogá-los fora, tudo depende do teor da análise.
@fffffffffffffffffffy
@fffffffffffffffffffy 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Physicists: So we're gonna assume c, g, and pi are all = 1 here
@joshschilmeister1934
@joshschilmeister1934 5 жыл бұрын
c=g=1, "Eh decent approximation at earth's surface and natural units are fun." pi=1, "You know not the horrors you have unleashed upon this world."
@isaiaheads6327
@isaiaheads6327 5 жыл бұрын
Vide Ultra, all I have to say is thank you
@thephysicistcuber175
@thephysicistcuber175 4 жыл бұрын
Actually we all know that infinity=3. By Renormalization.
@VndNvwYvvSvv
@VndNvwYvvSvv 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshschilmeister1934 π=1 so.... All radii are zero? All spheres and circles are a singularity. Big bang time, I guess.
@folou9199
@folou9199 4 жыл бұрын
Always assume Pi is 3. Unless you can shove it into a calculator, then use about as many digits as the calculator itself gives when called for Pi. That's how you build a system, maximum calculation of critical factors and trial and error!
@unclejeezy674
@unclejeezy674 5 жыл бұрын
I had a professor once tell the class "9 is close enough to 10 to substitute 10 into the value for this problem". I quietly do this at work all the time.
@mathsgenius9065
@mathsgenius9065 5 жыл бұрын
I think its g=9,81 m/s^2 , if in problèmes calculator are not used i think we can tack 10 just for do it Quickly
@imho2278
@imho2278 2 жыл бұрын
You are an economist?
@denysvlasenko1865
@denysvlasenko1865 2 жыл бұрын
In QCD, a technique called "1/N expansion" is used, based on the assumption that N=3 is so big that it is approximately infinite.
@ShankarSivarajan
@ShankarSivarajan Жыл бұрын
@@denysvlasenko1865 I worry that some people might think you're exaggerating for emphasis.
@somkanjilal3330
@somkanjilal3330 4 жыл бұрын
"The accuracy of mathematics in explaining physical phenomena is a gift that we neither deserve nor understand"- E.P Wigner
@kmarasin
@kmarasin 3 жыл бұрын
*Anthropic principle intensifies*
@tanvec
@tanvec 5 жыл бұрын
and by higher order, I mean everything after the first term. I spit out my drink
@existenceispain2074
@existenceispain2074 4 жыл бұрын
knowing the second term is also quite useful, you know what the point looks like locally, is it a saddle point, a maximum or minimum
@jacknguyen5220
@jacknguyen5220 4 жыл бұрын
and the error term
@dmforeacre
@dmforeacre 4 жыл бұрын
Ya that one got me too.
@alldayumday2660
@alldayumday2660 5 жыл бұрын
After 4 years of being a math student, the secret I've learned is that forgetting about the rules is the only way to get anywhere
@Error403HRD
@Error403HRD 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like just my type of major
@javiergilvidal1558
@javiergilvidal1558 3 жыл бұрын
.... anywhere close to repeating Analysis I for the seventh time?
@charlesstaats9902
@charlesstaats9902 3 жыл бұрын
I have a PhD in mathematics and I agree with this. The trick is figuring out how to put the rules back in once you’ve gotten somewhere.
@realdomdom
@realdomdom 3 жыл бұрын
The most important lesson of life, indeed.
@taypangshiang7935
@taypangshiang7935 3 жыл бұрын
True. Forget a rule and call it a generalized something
@skylarclymer5043
@skylarclymer5043 3 жыл бұрын
As a physics student this is giving me anxiety as to how much of my stuff has flawed mathematical foundations that I just don't know.
@pauligrossinoz
@pauligrossinoz 5 жыл бұрын
Electrical Engineer here: *I totally get this!* An electrical engineer is just a more honest physicist - meaning we use an approximation _because it has been shown to work in some context,_ but not because we understand _why_ it works. Even though we admit that we don't know why an approximation works, we are going to use it anyway ... _just because it works!_ That's called _pragmatism,_ and engineers are essentially pragmatists. We are happy to let the mathematicians and physicists argue forever, while we wait patiently for any equations that they might come up with that seem to at least kind-of-sort-of work in some practical situations.
@TheGhostLegend001
@TheGhostLegend001 5 жыл бұрын
I’m also an electrical/computer engineer. I like to think that we engineers sort of bridge the gap between the scientists and the mathematicians.
@cH3rtzb3rg
@cH3rtzb3rg 5 жыл бұрын
An engineer thinks that equations are an approximation to reality. A physicist thinks reality is an approximation to equations. A mathematician doesn't care.
@luisurdiales3091
@luisurdiales3091 5 жыл бұрын
Can confirm: Teacher: So, now that we're done with the ideal cases on calculating line inductance: this is the mathemathical model for line inductance in a line with earth return. Me: So, is there any proof to it stemming from the Maxwell equations like the previous formulas? Teacher: Nah, I wonder where's the proof to it, we're just gonna take a leap of faith here, son.
@eggsbox3.607
@eggsbox3.607 5 жыл бұрын
good for you but I don't actually think many scientists, especially physicists care that much about the practical application. Like the boi Richard said (paraphrased) "Physics is like sex, it gives practical results, but that's not why we do it!"
@Arbitrary_Moniker
@Arbitrary_Moniker 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGhostLegend001 Don't you mean "bridge the gap between scientists, mathematicians and practicality"? Because the other types of scientists don't need you to explain anything mathematicians have told them, or vice versa. You know, as if you were some sort of translators, which you're not. At least in the sense that your comment suggests. In the case that you meant that you exist as something between a scientist and a mathematician, it still doesn't quite compute, at least in my head anyways.
@kilianirlander9174
@kilianirlander9174 5 жыл бұрын
3:44 That's an Oscar *right there*
@YosmHere
@YosmHere 2 жыл бұрын
Mathematician: Argues about illogical result Physicist: *It is what it is*
@MsMotron
@MsMotron 5 жыл бұрын
"Ich habe gezeigt dass das integral konvergiert" "sehr schön, hast du es auch gelößt?" "nein"
@schokoladenjunge1
@schokoladenjunge1 5 жыл бұрын
Jedes mal
@schokoladenjunge1
@schokoladenjunge1 5 жыл бұрын
Don't need german classes when you're born a Korinthenkacker
@d_9696
@d_9696 5 жыл бұрын
Der Integrand sieht schön genug aus, also konvergiert das Integral.
@basti4583
@basti4583 5 жыл бұрын
Ich wusste bereits am Akzent des Mathematikers, dass er deutscher Herkunft sein muss :D
@xpl0rer551
@xpl0rer551 4 жыл бұрын
@@basti4583Digger das ist auch keine Kunst als Deutscher...
@wicowan
@wicowan 4 жыл бұрын
Once on a TV show, a mathematician and a physician were invited and were to make a fence all over some sheeps using the less material possible. The physician starts, and put all the sheeps in a circle, and try to make the fence less and less big. Then it's the mathematician turn, he makes a fence all over him and define himself as the outside, making the sheeps on the inside of the fence. Moral : there's none, it's just funny stop overthinking
@Grassmpl
@Grassmpl 3 жыл бұрын
Hey don't confuse physicist with physician
@Invincible2203
@Invincible2203 3 жыл бұрын
Haha but this logic is very legendary I didn't think of that
@inventgineer
@inventgineer 3 жыл бұрын
Stay fucking rad, internet friend ❣; this high five is for you 🖐.
@hotdogskid
@hotdogskid 3 жыл бұрын
Chaos, chaos!
@Grivian
@Grivian 2 жыл бұрын
Engineer: Makes an actual functional fence
@Messerschmidt_Me-262
@Messerschmidt_Me-262 4 жыл бұрын
As a bio-student, I'll sit back, relax, get some popcorn.
@devinotero1798
@devinotero1798 4 жыл бұрын
Garbage major
@Lsdlsadmt
@Lsdlsadmt 3 жыл бұрын
@@devinotero1798 indeed
@nuno_alex505
@nuno_alex505 3 жыл бұрын
@@devinotero1798 look at the self entitlement. That's why you'll never get laid
@mihael2800
@mihael2800 3 жыл бұрын
@@devinotero1798 Physics is nice and all but biology is the superior science.
@Abstractor21
@Abstractor21 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lsdlsadmt mmm i don't know. Hopefully biology doesn't need a lot of math like physics, so Physics would be at its 20% of yield without math.
@gdsfish3214
@gdsfish3214 5 жыл бұрын
"You'll prove this in some other math lecture next year" "Yes we can always do that since functions in physics are always smooth anyways." "We can interchange that since experiments have shown that the resulting formula actually works" "And now we'll apply this in the next experiment that I am going to show you." *30 seconds later* "I actually have no idea why this is not working like it should. I swear we tested it this morning."
@h3rtl31nHDGaming
@h3rtl31nHDGaming 5 жыл бұрын
@@PapaFlammy69 "you can disregard this answer, it's unphysical"
@GeodesicBruh
@GeodesicBruh 5 жыл бұрын
Flammable Maths if it’s negative just take the absolute value amirite?
@dimosthenisvallis3555
@dimosthenisvallis3555 5 жыл бұрын
Functions in physics are always smooth? Wut?
@schokoladenjunge1
@schokoladenjunge1 5 жыл бұрын
They're as smooth as a mathematician's pick up lines And they assume they're smooth, too...
@schokoladenjunge1
@schokoladenjunge1 5 жыл бұрын
As they say, physics is the same everywhere in the universe
@christopherjorissen5582
@christopherjorissen5582 4 жыл бұрын
Physics Teacher: We do not relate to any mathematics after Yr 9 Maths. Also Physics Teacher: We don’t have any formulas for finding the area under this non-linear graph, so let’s count the squares!
@redhawkneofeatherman261
@redhawkneofeatherman261 Жыл бұрын
A level physics?
@christopherjorissen5582
@christopherjorissen5582 Жыл бұрын
@@redhawkneofeatherman261 yr 12 vce physics, when i was studying yr 12 vce maths methods concurrently
@epistemological
@epistemological 7 ай бұрын
@@christopherjorissen5582yo im doing vce phys too did my methods last year and im doing spec 34 as well now :33 i integrate the functions to find the area under cuz its faster and more interesting yoyo
@iaguilar7509
@iaguilar7509 3 жыл бұрын
As an engineer who LOVES math and has a very solid math base, i am BOTH of these people hahaha. Its a constant internal struggle 😅
@Yash-re3wi
@Yash-re3wi 5 жыл бұрын
"All Matrices are Invertible" that genuinely hurt my soul🤣🤣🤣🤣
@nathanaeld.striker7191
@nathanaeld.striker7191 5 жыл бұрын
inb4psuedoinverse
@razzmatazz1974
@razzmatazz1974 5 жыл бұрын
said no one ever ... :D
@redking36
@redking36 5 жыл бұрын
teawsome 123 It just means you can reverse what you did, like hitting undo. Some things have multiple inputs that produce the same result, so you can’t just look at the result and hit “undo.”
@Schrodinger_
@Schrodinger_ 4 жыл бұрын
In physics, all matrices are square Hermitian matrices.
@kaballfs
@kaballfs 4 жыл бұрын
You see, in physics all matrices all square and have non-zero determinants... So this is not that wrong... Physicists just aren't interested in matrices that aren't square or have determinant equal to zero.
@trace8617
@trace8617 5 жыл бұрын
"if you have questions about the rigor of this class........... you can leave" LMAO
@spicynoodles3317
@spicynoodles3317 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so proud of myself. Halfway into AP Calc BC and AP Physics 2 and I can understand every other word.
@42scientist
@42scientist 5 жыл бұрын
My physics teacher : so here’s the Dirac, a function equal to 0 everywhere but when x = 0, f(x) = infinity. Let’s say that the integral of that function is equal to 1. Mathematicians : that’s illegal Dirac : I don’t care I’m a physicist
@massecl
@massecl 5 жыл бұрын
The functions can be generalised to distributions, and that works in all rigour. Anyway, in physics there are always inaccuracies, so that taking a Dirac distribution or a narrow impulse function makes no difference in practice. Again, that is proven in all rigour.
@jeanconan1812
@jeanconan1812 5 жыл бұрын
It is even worse, he was an ingeneer !
@stephendonovan9084
@stephendonovan9084 5 жыл бұрын
Engineering student here, can confirm we’re worse.
@michelegiannotti
@michelegiannotti 5 жыл бұрын
Davie504 would be proud
@Elo_Hell
@Elo_Hell 5 жыл бұрын
Omg thank you I was struggling to understand this for my exam next week! Guess it was just signals and systems shenanigans 😘
@Eigenbros
@Eigenbros 5 жыл бұрын
This flammable maths guy is crazy. Next thing he'll be telling us is that dy/dx isn't a quotient 😵
@alephnull4044
@alephnull4044 4 жыл бұрын
You mean y/x. Lol go back to school you can’t even simplify fractions.
@stranger0152
@stranger0152 4 жыл бұрын
@@alephnull4044 What if d is 0 ? :O
@alephnull4044
@alephnull4044 4 жыл бұрын
Stranger 01 Then it was undefined in the first place
@Schrodinger_
@Schrodinger_ 4 жыл бұрын
But then how can you ever solve a differential equation if you can't multiply both sides by dx and integrate?
@artjomspanasenko9962
@artjomspanasenko9962 4 жыл бұрын
@@Schrodinger_ Is this a question about multiplying by dx ? If you know please explain what you mean. ( I thought that we multiply by dx .)
@syc9675
@syc9675 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video there. Back in high school I told myself that I never wanted to study physics because physics was the hardest subject in final years of high school. Physics contain a lot of hard mathematics and I simply had so much difficulties with physics laws and learning gravity, mass, weight, displacement, and motion graphs.
@The123Christian
@The123Christian 5 жыл бұрын
One does never see Jens and Mr. Dotson at the same time. Does that mean that Jens is Andrew?
@MathematicsOptimization
@MathematicsOptimization 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh it's called change of variables
@itrickz7145
@itrickz7145 5 жыл бұрын
Flammable Maths no it means they are both continuous but non differentiable functions
@HolyMith
@HolyMith 5 жыл бұрын
SUPERPOSITION
@synhegola
@synhegola 5 жыл бұрын
@@HolyMith Exactly. Somone has to hold the camera, while the other one speaks... ^-^
@Aroux1930
@Aroux1930 5 жыл бұрын
Or may be they are friends far from each other because the backgrounds seem different
@ajvarninja415
@ajvarninja415 5 жыл бұрын
When i was 2nd year high school, we had a task that had pi in the numerator and 3 in the denominator. You can predict what my professor's next move was
@australianmagpie2221
@australianmagpie2221 4 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@Error403HRD
@Error403HRD 4 жыл бұрын
Oh god no
@Тестканал-н7ю
@Тестканал-н7ю 4 жыл бұрын
Can anybody tell me what is wrong with pi/3?
@oaktutor1154
@oaktutor1154 4 жыл бұрын
Тест канал he is implying that when his teacher did pi/3 the outcome was equal to 1 since Pi is close enough to be equal to 3
@ajvarninja415
@ajvarninja415 4 жыл бұрын
@@oaktutor1154 what u mean "close enough"? Pi is equal to 3
@2megna
@2megna 3 жыл бұрын
I always understood math in physics better than actual math alone because it was easier for me to understand real life concepts than concepts of numbers.
@sarojpandeya7883
@sarojpandeya7883 Жыл бұрын
Because you lack rigor of mathematics.
@2megna
@2megna Жыл бұрын
@@sarojpandeya7883 sure but math is more interesting when it's applied
@sarojpandeya7883
@sarojpandeya7883 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, but its merely a perceptive approach towards learning mathematics. Intuitive approach sometimes fails to address real problems but seems valid in narrow light of our experience. If we want to learn some basics and develop some idea it may be useful.
@bigbluebuttonman1137
@bigbluebuttonman1137 Жыл бұрын
@@2megna That’s more a perspective than anything else. The world of mathematics is actually humongous, it’s kind of ridiculous when you start taking the tour.
@manofsteel9051
@manofsteel9051 8 ай бұрын
Same for me. I've always found abstract mathematics to be much harder than applied mathematics
@Presall-v8y
@Presall-v8y 5 жыл бұрын
As a former physics major who recently enrolled in a math master, I feel triggered on so many levels...
@hunterm9
@hunterm9 5 жыл бұрын
What encouraged you to go on to math? I'm curious since I'm seriously considering physics even though I really don't love math.
@Presall-v8y
@Presall-v8y 5 жыл бұрын
@@hunterm9 I was actually a double major in both physics and maths but had to choose for my grad studies and decided to do maths, since it is easier to switch from maths to physics than the other way around. If your main focus is applied physics, I don't think a very deep understanding of mathematics is necessary. As long as you know how to manipulate "basic" (I use that term very lightly) equations, you should be good. I have several applied physics friends who are terrible at maths but still brilliant in physics.
@SuperVoidBoyz
@SuperVoidBoyz 5 жыл бұрын
@@Presall-v8y I seem to be the other way around. I'm pretty good at math but suck at physics now.
@imperialguardsman135
@imperialguardsman135 4 жыл бұрын
Arctan(1/0)=pi/2
@epajarjestys9981
@epajarjestys9981 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperVoidBoyz I sucked at physics, but it didn't taste well.
@cosmos9997
@cosmos9997 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao "probability of flipping burgers for rest of life"
@V-for-Vendetta01
@V-for-Vendetta01 5 жыл бұрын
Fucking died
@anima94
@anima94 5 жыл бұрын
Too real...
@blankblank103
@blankblank103 5 жыл бұрын
@@anima94 funny thing is it applies to physics students just as well lol
@arnbrandy
@arnbrandy 5 жыл бұрын
@@blankblank103 That's what I thought, i'd bet the labor market is not that better for Physics students either...
@clodgozon3968
@clodgozon3968 5 жыл бұрын
This made my day lmao
@martinborgen
@martinborgen 3 жыл бұрын
"In nature, all functions are continuous" as my professor once said.
@Intiinti8
@Intiinti8 3 жыл бұрын
@Rick Does Math hows that nature
@Hadar1991
@Hadar1991 2 жыл бұрын
Number of atoms is limited. All those "physics" seem to be a discrete problem to me 🤢
@varmituofm
@varmituofm 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Hadar1991 In undergraduate physics, everything is already an approximation. Newtonian mechanics is an approximation at every step. It's impossible to calculate exactly because it is impossible to know the exact state the matter is in (uncertainty principle and influence of the observer). Throw in the the fact that even simple problems don't have a known closed form solution (3-body problem for example), and all that's left is to figure out the level of approximation you want to use.
@Hadar1991
@Hadar1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@varmituofm As mathematician approximation is just an abomination - another reason to hate physics. xD
@stuartholme4457
@stuartholme4457 Жыл бұрын
Especially in quantum mechanics, right?
@ResanChea
@ResanChea 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not big brained enough to appreciate those jokes
@JonasWeezer
@JonasWeezer 2 жыл бұрын
You are lacking then.
@JonasWeezer
@JonasWeezer Жыл бұрын
sarcastically
@JonasWeezer
@JonasWeezer Жыл бұрын
@Ray Lant sarc.
@Jose-yt3qz
@Jose-yt3qz Жыл бұрын
I understood. Mathematicians want results that are entirely absolute to the smallest aspect possible, no room of error margins. Physicists just want to use it to poke at the universe.
@hefferheffer2952
@hefferheffer2952 5 жыл бұрын
this could single-handedly replace the show, "The Big Bang Theory"
@chloedsmith
@chloedsmith 5 жыл бұрын
So much funnier actually, you're totally right
@abrahamwilberforce9824
@abrahamwilberforce9824 5 жыл бұрын
No it is better
@trueredlucky954
@trueredlucky954 5 жыл бұрын
This is more or less The Big Bang Theory if Sheldon directed it.
@technoguyx
@technoguyx 5 жыл бұрын
normies wouldn't watch it at all
@iQKyyR3K
@iQKyyR3K 5 жыл бұрын
@@technoguyx so a show for actual nerds... and not >vague comic book reference followed by canned laughter
@taammedii6270
@taammedii6270 2 жыл бұрын
1:55 got me ! We are here to approximate and apply and then repeat. This is one of the reasons why I choose Physics and THANK YOU FLAMMABLE MATHS !
@someonesomewheresometime3897
@someonesomewheresometime3897 4 жыл бұрын
heh. this made me think of the following hypothetical scenario: what if for some cruel reason a physics journal decided to add pure mathematicians as reviewers for the articles submitted to said journal?
@kmarasin
@kmarasin 3 жыл бұрын
That journal would soon cease to exist due to lack of acceptable submissions
@benmcconnell6008
@benmcconnell6008 4 жыл бұрын
As a fellow with double major in math and physics, I always love these little exchanges. Sometimes the physicist does what the mathematician thinks is awful, and indeed incorrect, but the physics fits the real worlds solutions as we know them. The mathematician then goes off and makes the physics arguments more palatable or even invents some new math to make it work. The classic example is the Delta function(al). Sometimes we even get a new physics or math areas of research. It is a fun world; roll with the punches.
@FLMKane
@FLMKane 11 ай бұрын
As an engineer I despise the delta function
@t8m8r
@t8m8r 8 ай бұрын
@@FLMKane that was invented by your fellow engineer Heaviside
@Vortex-qb2se
@Vortex-qb2se 7 ай бұрын
Watching this as a computer science student who knows math but not physics is extremely interesting
@Ryan_Perrin
@Ryan_Perrin 5 жыл бұрын
That last one was actually worrisome, as a physicist
@Ricocossa1
@Ricocossa1 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. But let's be real. If everyone understood that, we wouldn't have people marvel at the fact that "infinities pop up" in Feynmann diagrams, when that's just the result of applying perturbation theory to non analytic functions in most cases. Most teachers treat that as a mystery of nature, when in fact you can have a pretty good intuition of it.
@u.v.s.5583
@u.v.s.5583 5 жыл бұрын
I kind of dislike the e^(--1/x) example, I'd prefer e^(-1/|x|). Not only this is a differentiable and smooth function containing the dreaded absolute value, but also it truly has Taylor series at x=0, which does not converge to the function. Bender discusses stuff like that, 'beyond all order asymptotics' or something like that
@deinauge7894
@deinauge7894 5 жыл бұрын
it was actually an example in one of my physics classes... to show that the taylor series does not always converge to the function even if it exists ^^ and another time to give an example of a function f(x) which is not square integrable but f(x)/x is....
@latt.qcd9221
@latt.qcd9221 5 жыл бұрын
"Just let me take my derivative!!" - Andy Dots.
@Grassmpl
@Grassmpl 3 жыл бұрын
Ok. Be sure to compute the subdifferentials at all nondifferentiable points.
@alimuhammadnasir1571
@alimuhammadnasir1571 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly wanted to persue physics last year but was forced my way in to Medicine. Honestly watching this video has made me realized my love for physics. If only I can be brave enough to take that leap now..
@EnPotteplante
@EnPotteplante 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a story my dad told me from when he studied physics at the University of Oslo. There was this geology professor who was a really good lecturer, so other professors would often attend his lectures. One day he makes a small error writing down an infinite series, and it's solution, when an elderly maths professor raises his hand and says "Sorry, but I don't think your series converges." To which the lecturer replies "I couldn't give a fuck if it converges or not, as long as I get the right answer." Loosely translated from the Norwegian: "Unnskyld, men jeg tror ikke rekken din konvergerer." "Jeg gir da faen i om den konvergerer eller ikke, så lenge jeg får riktig svar."
@simonzakeyh6515
@simonzakeyh6515 4 жыл бұрын
What the fuck is a geology professor doing linear algebra for?
@derwinhauser
@derwinhauser 4 жыл бұрын
that looks danish, i wonder how similar the languages are
@skimmelsvamp9531
@skimmelsvamp9531 4 жыл бұрын
@@derwinhauser they are extremely similar, if you can speak one of the scandinavian languages you can undeerstand them all, or at least the languages when they are written since there can be quite a difference in pronounciation. i think there is an official term for this phenomena but i can`t quite remember the name of it.
@karlpoppins
@karlpoppins 3 жыл бұрын
@@skimmelsvamp9531 The term you're looking for is "mutually intelligible" (when referring to two or more languages), which means that people can speak in their native tongues and will mostly understand each other.
@mm__1659
@mm__1659 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonzakeyh6515 geology professor needs hell a lot of liner algebra to predict where the fuck oil / coal/water hidden inside earth...........they need it to model earth's structure from data like gravity, geomagnetism, seismic velocity etc........the problem is called inverse problems......
@sungod9797
@sungod9797 4 жыл бұрын
“...And by higher order I mean after the first term” had me dying at like 1:20 AM
@PapaFlammy69
@PapaFlammy69 4 жыл бұрын
:'D
@asosisos659
@asosisos659 4 жыл бұрын
One of my professors could not explain what the physicist said at the conference she attended because she was laughing so hard
@PapaFlammy69
@PapaFlammy69 4 жыл бұрын
xD
@TransTess
@TransTess 4 жыл бұрын
What I used to think as a physics student: Physics: Playing fast and loose with the maths to get results Maths: Pure Rigour and well defined functions. What I think now, after looking into what mathematicians are like: Physics: As much rigour as needed. Maths: YOLO We're going to apply things that might not even be true! We're going to use things that don't even make sense! Screw the rules! If something doesn't work we define a new thing so it does. We see a pattern of 10 things following some pattern? Lets call it a conjecture and leave it to someone else to prove whilst we take the credit.
@sophiedavalos5730
@sophiedavalos5730 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's weird. In my uni I take many classes with mathematicians and/or with a professor who is a mathematician. Usually, when there is a majority of physics students, they'll get very pedantic. Other than that, at least in higher level mathematics and physics, is just like you described. Academia is absolutely RUTHLESS in physics.
@larshizzleramnizzle3748
@larshizzleramnizzle3748 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Lol this is really funny! I've always felt the opposite but I haven't taken a physics class in years so 🤷🏽‍♀️
@dmforeacre
@dmforeacre 4 жыл бұрын
"YOLO" lmao!
@themushroom2130
@themushroom2130 3 жыл бұрын
“Sees that the first prime is even” “Thus All primes are even” Mushroom Conjecture
@Smitology
@Smitology 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment about maths really applies to number theory which is where I see it happening the most
@lewiszim
@lewiszim 5 жыл бұрын
I lost it when he said, "Let's consider a 3x2 Matrix with all real entries." How the heck are you going to find the inverse of that?
@akorthouwer
@akorthouwer 5 жыл бұрын
@@PapaFlammy69 oh wait they see pseudoinverses as inverses in physics. When is the Madness going to stop
@CodyLynn100
@CodyLynn100 5 жыл бұрын
Matlab
@akorthouwer
@akorthouwer 5 жыл бұрын
@@CodyLynn100 or a Python library
@artofgameplaying
@artofgameplaying 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many solutions and discoveries were lost that way… :D
@owacs_ender
@owacs_ender 4 жыл бұрын
Linear Algebra student: Wait that's illegal
@dalmacietis
@dalmacietis 3 жыл бұрын
This may be accurate, but never in my life have I seen physicists so hostile to mathematicians. Most professors were rather apologetic that they don't have the time or knowledge to prove the swappability of limits, existence of integrals etc. They would at least mention that it is a part of the proof.
@YoutubeAskedMeToChangeThis
@YoutubeAskedMeToChangeThis 5 жыл бұрын
"You are assuming you can interchange the limits" Papa... Did YOU just say that?
@non-inertialobserver946
@non-inertialobserver946 5 жыл бұрын
Papa Fubini
@MajinOthinus
@MajinOthinus 5 жыл бұрын
@@non-inertialobserver946 Fubini is love, Fubini is life.
@iamanentppersonalitytype3184
@iamanentppersonalitytype3184 4 жыл бұрын
"If we take the square of the probability amplitude, then you're a virgin" As a mathematics student this applies to me with 100% accuracy.
@kingkiller1451
@kingkiller1451 3 жыл бұрын
I love this in part because there are actually a lot of problems with physics math that just gets brushed under the rug.
@wonderfurret8223
@wonderfurret8223 5 жыл бұрын
I did grade 12 calculus before I did grade 11 physics, and... I can't even possibly describe how mad I was when I saw my physics teacher tell the class to approximate the slope of a tangent by putting a ruler to it and drawing a line, then calculate the slope as the difference in y divided by the difference in x between two approximated points on the line. I was so mad, I didn't even say a word... I just stopped, and listened. Of course, I had to retaliate at some point, so on a test in grade 12 level physics, instead of just explaining something the way we were taught in class, I explained my answer in terms of integrals and it felt good. I got 100% on it as well.
@legendarynoob6732
@legendarynoob6732 4 жыл бұрын
Well going by your comment the question asked for 'approximation' and that's exactly how you 'approximate' the slope of a tangent.Also,how did you describe it in terms of an Integral?Isn't differentiation used for slopes?
@PedanticTwit
@PedanticTwit 5 жыл бұрын
"If you have questions about the rigor of this class, you can leave." I actually, honest-to-God laughed out loud.
@isomorphism__9154
@isomorphism__9154 4 жыл бұрын
1:35 “Drop higher order terms in its Taylor Series, and by higher orderI mean after the first term" You got me..that's exactly the reason I dropped physics after my first semester in uni
@hmafussel94
@hmafussel94 4 жыл бұрын
Experimental physics be like: we have to ber extremly precise because a mistake of 10 to power minus 10 could make everything caollapse Theoretical physics be like: let all constans be 1 so it looks nice and all units describe pretty much the same thing
@felicitas206
@felicitas206 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly how I feel in my physics classes, however I usually suffer quietly.
@pilucapiluca9735
@pilucapiluca9735 4 жыл бұрын
3:50 "Enough is enough. See me after class and we can talk about the existance and probability of you flipping burgers for the rest of your life"... Lol...
@imagzz4942
@imagzz4942 4 жыл бұрын
My math teacher also teaches physics. He's pretty cool. Sometimes our math class turn into physics for a few minutes (or 10.. or 20), but it's all good because I quite enjoy physics. It's also great because he can use a lot of examples of where the math applies in the real world - in physics.
@DivineSeaDragon
@DivineSeaDragon 5 жыл бұрын
I love the fact I understood absolutely nothing lmao🤣🤣🤣 l
@khier-eddinehennaoui9783
@khier-eddinehennaoui9783 5 жыл бұрын
I only understood the matrix :-)
@r__9_1____a34
@r__9_1____a34 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was kinda like pointlessly obtruse, the guy is kinda playing Mr bigbrain bigwords
@johndalton8839
@johndalton8839 5 жыл бұрын
@@PapaFlammy69 i'd love to learn all that crazy stuff and jargon in the video, if not for me being a medical aspirant. I'm all over the place with my interests lmao
@PanchoKnivesForever
@PanchoKnivesForever 5 жыл бұрын
pooyah k all of these conversations were of “basic” concepts covered in undergraduate physics classes - which, funny enough, at the level that these concepts are all introduced, said physics classes are very introductory to the grand scheme of physics.
@EGarrett01
@EGarrett01 4 жыл бұрын
@Francisco Herrera No. As Einstein and many other people far smarter than you have said, if you can't explain something in clear terms, you don't actually understand it. You should also shut up, because in your half-understanding, where you think complexity is intelligence, leads you to discourage others from actually studying intellectual subjects.
@Peter_1986
@Peter_1986 4 жыл бұрын
I have always kinda viewed math books as "instruction manuals" for math - in other words, they explain in detail how math actually _works_ - and physics books as math applications.
@coena9377
@coena9377 5 жыл бұрын
TL;DR Math students are obnoxious. (PS As a math student, I feel entitled to make fun of us).
@PanchoKnivesForever
@PanchoKnivesForever 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. We are.
@Grassmpl
@Grassmpl 3 жыл бұрын
So bored with all these modules. Let's arrange them into an exact sequence so we stay organized.
@elltwo8393
@elltwo8393 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy that in both versions it’s always the physicist who gets mocked.
@AntonAdelson
@AntonAdelson 4 жыл бұрын
Found the mathematician!
@Grassmpl
@Grassmpl 3 жыл бұрын
Fermat>Feynman
@TheoPhysicist
@TheoPhysicist 8 ай бұрын
That is understandable. I've been doing some work on Maxwell's equations. And sometimes I think a step is mathematically very wrong - but then I remember that I'm a physicist and think that division by zero is sometimes not such a problem!
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