10" VS 12" SUBWOOFER | MYTH BUSTED

[@benjaminwest6277]

We should continue this experiment where you put the 10 in a smaller vehicle than the 12 and 15 and see what happens

[@Thumper68]

You loose output with not enough airspace like two 15s in a truck won’t perform as well as two 12’s

[@bass305-HCCA]

​@Thumper68 that's correct. It's all about the transfer function of the vehicle

[@MotoAtheist]

And what exactly would be the point? This demo was an "all else being equal" scenario so even if you put them in a small vehicle, the outcome will be the same. As long as you can provide the proper box for the sub, the larger sub will always win out when all else is equal... ie, same location, same power.

[@bass305-HCCA]

@@MotoAtheist yeah, that's not correct. It depends on the transfer function of the vehicle

[@MotoAtheist]

@@bass305-HCCA LOL! Sure thing. That's why you never see big subs in smaller vehicles... oh wait, pretty sure I saw tons of them at Slamology and can find tons on KZbin as well. Yeah, large subs are just garbage, useless junk, waste of money.

[@thelegendarywasdgamer9724]

actual video starts at 4:55 your welcome.

[@DGGuaglianone]

I didn’t see this comment until 5 minutes in 😢

[@sw58703]

Well there's 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back. 10 minute video with 5 minutes of promos. Great video but pushing viewers away with all that.

[@Swooptywoop]

Yep skipped straight to 5 min

[@CFish-N-Cars]

Dawg you not lying, I had to check the title cause I forgot what I was watching

[@anwarstembridge2370]

I swear I was thinking the same thing 😂😂😂 no way am I subscribing to anybody that does this!! 🤦🏽‍♂️ it’s like… condense all this to 3-4 mins TOPS!!! = more views, algorithm changes = more views & repeat 💁🏽‍♂️😂

[@standodge7687]

Adjust your playback speed to 1.5 and get through it in 5min

[@dpoetry]

Parker it’s a lot of new bass heads out here that’s looking for info on how to wire subs properly and your the man to teach them please show them the way brother 💯

[@BigJeffAudio]

Merry Christmas 🎉 2023 was awesome. I can’t wait to see what Parker The Bass head has for 2024. Congrats to who ever wins the giveaway.

[@Solairethedarksoul]

I don’t care what’s louder, I want what sounds better.

[@scottlowell493]

I've heard systems with large subs that were horrible boom and mud. I see no point in SPl when it's sloppy.

[@ssjdavid]

Quality in quality out. If you want SQ go with JL, kicker Q class, audio frog, stereo integrity. Skar is spl

[@jessewaits5042]

An Skar not it

[@seanelmenhurst7318]

Hey Parker I just purchased triple 8s and have a few questions abt some of the wiring, you should put up a tutorial on how to install subs

[@brianhardemon561]

Hey bro. I love the tests you have been running. Keep up the good work my guy.

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Glad to hear man!!

[@brianhasledalen3291]

10's hands down best.

[@russellkatz5864]

Hey Brian, why 10s over 12s in your opinion? I've always had 12s, but debating moving to 10s, just to change it up and see if/what the difference will be.

[@JAM-ur8tj]

Very good experiment💯, that's the reason each model sub has a 10, 12, and 15 so you can step up in output.

[@Thumper68]

It has nothing to do with proper size for the intended use and installation area available….

[@Bassking01]

@@Thumper68tf you mean 😂

[@Thumper68]

@@Bassking01 sarcasm.. he said it was so you could step up in output. So I was saying it had nothing to do with all the actual reasons they make different sizes besides the obvious one

[@benjamin5909]

Hey man thank you. Sick of hearing people say my 8s sound like 12s mbenclosure people. So sick of that crap. They are different for a reason. If 8s played like 12s why make a 12 at all? Thank you

[@ericwheelhouse4371]

You are misunderstanding what people are saying. An 8 in sub in a specifically designed box can sound like a 12. Also some people buy expensive 8s and compare it to cheap 12s. There’s so many factors that this video isn’t about.

[@redman112010]

Maybe the guy didn't have a very good 12, and the 8 he got after was way better and had it on more power with a better tuned box. You can make an expensive high power 8 sound better than a cheap crap 12 in a Walmart box. But apples for apples like this comparison, the 12 will be louder.

[@benjamin5909]

@redman112010 that was not the point of the video was it. NO!!!!!!! Apples to apples. NOT apples to houses.

[@MotoAtheist]

@@benjamin5909 That's what Redman is saying, the video is apples to apples. In an all else being equal scenario, the larger subs always win out. Redman is agreeing with you. Eric is a chump and is exactly why videos like this are made, because of people like him who don't get it. Nobody gives a single F that somebodies high powered quality 8" can beat out a piece of S wally world sub. Nobody cares about wally world junk.

[@JoBiatch]

They make 12s so that people can say that they sound like 18s.

[@jadsholloway]

Merry Christmas Parker! Have been enjoying the videos. Can’t wait for a new build for 2024

[@cmexeqtu21]

Love the comparison vids bro !!

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Glad to hear it man!!

[@tedpollock3256]

Good video! Thanks Parker and Merry Christmas!

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Merry Christmas!

[@rynev3392]

I’d like to see the same frequency test, but start at the low power like 5/10 watts and double the power in steps. Just to see how much power someone would really need/want were they perceive it to be loud and clean

[@chrhadden]

thats the kind of thing the end user is going to have to figure out. im not big on saying subjective but what someone wants to hear is definitely subjective to their tastes

[@luidgioishi7953]

As a Brazilian, it’s amazing to see some Taramps hanging from the wall, even though i personally don’t like them due to some occurrences I’ve had

[@7passu]

I looked up the specs and they both can use a 2 cubic foot box. Could use 1 box for the test and make a adapter to fit the 10. I think it would be as close as you can get then

[@bubbawubba2307]

not really. Put the 12 in a bigger box and see the comparison. Reason why they make different sub sizes is because of size constraints of vehicles. To me the better comparison would be if you have 10 cuft to build a box how loud can you make that space. Can you get louder on 10-10's? or 5-12's? 3-15's or 2-18's? I'd say the 10's would win out. That is if you had an unlimited budget for amps, alts, batteries etc. which all take up room as well.

[@MotoAtheist]

@@bubbawubba2307 10's need about 1.25cf with ported, so you are few too many there, try 8 10's instead. 8 10's = 628 cone area. Should be able to fit 6 12's=678 cone area. 4 15s=706 Cone area. CF for 18's are all over the place so 2 is probably a good compromise, only getting 508 cone area. In your 10cf scenario, 4-15's win out. If an 18 can be found that only needs 3.3cf, you could do 3 at 763 cone area and the 18's win out.

[@thedubwhisperer2157]

It might have been worth mentioning the improvements in acoustic impedance matching as driver area increases. Also, a larger driver using less excursion to provide the same spl as a smaller driver will generally sound better - more relaxed, if you will...

[@Laserred01]

Cool test! What about 20-34 Hz? 😄

[@drummonkeystuffuk1875]

there's so many factors that can affect the output on each subwoofer: powr yhandling, surface area, box sizes, material quality, port size, car size/ type. The list goes on and on :P

[@damunchman3120]

How does the type of base compare between the 2? I would imagine the 10 would be a bit more punchy bass, whereas the 12 would be more deep bass.

[@jeremynelson8496]

I wouldn't assume this. I bought and ran 10's almost 20 years before I bought a used jl 13w7. It is better in every way imo.

[@MotoAtheist]

Why do so many people believe larger subs aren't punchy? There is no logical explanation as to why they believe this.

[@madgixxer06]

I have been waiting for this video forever. Thank you.!!!

[@Private566]

Box size matters too. I have the 18. Id like to see that one tested! Get on it, lol

[@GetFuktPriusOwners]

I have the 18EVL. WISH I would have stuck to 12 or 15 for bandwidth.

[@chrhadden]

science hasnt come far enough to make up for cone size. bigger sub equals more air movement= more bass. i always wanted an 18in sub in my car. small subs cant hit low notes and thats probably why he started at 35hz

[@GetFuktPriusOwners]

@chrhadden Yeah but the range on 18's suck. I am going to 2 15's or 2 12" soon

[@chrhadden]

@@GetFuktPriusOwners do you have room to keep it and maybe add 4 8s or 10s to fill in the holes? or is that the 18 just over powers everything else? you know like make the music sound "muddy"

[@GetFuktPriusOwners]

@@chrhadden Posted old vids of my 8s.. You can hear the range

[@tristanweller8929]

Have a question please help I’m very curious what is the difference between and what does it mean on the SVX-12v2 D1 and SVX-12v2 D2 please make a short video explaining it and which to get!?!?!?

[@MotoAtheist]

Both are dual voice coil, hence (D) and the D1 is 1ohm D2 is 2 ohm. D1=Two 1ohm coils and D2=Two 2 ohm coils.

[@j-remy9832]

My 10" EVL wouldn't fit in any of the Skar prefab boxes other than the one made specifically for the EVL. The basket was too large. Did you have to shave the opening in that SDR box for it to fit?

[@geraldwilkinson4287]

I have to with my 10 inch kicker comp q

[@rustybrown9829]

Merry Christmas everyone. Thanks for the info Parker . Keep going brother 👍

[@Pivot_Media_TV]

Merry Christmas!

[@MikeAnnunziato]

Awesome video Happy Holidays Parker and everyone!

[@OGJD1984]

It's all about moving air in the end. More contact with the air will be louder. There's no replacement for displacement.

[@clarkgriswald1768]

I would like to see a ported ten vs sealed 12 ( same enclosure size )

[@devionstanfield507]

What would the results be for two12 vs one 12 for the skars

[@MotoAtheist]

Same power, the dual 12's would gain roughly 3db plus or minus.

[@CajunReaper95]

Also I thought the whole debate was are 2 10 inch subs better than 1 12 inch sub?

[@dieselsmiths]

Hey @Parkerthebasehead I Would be curious what happens with the numbers if each enclosure was toned to maximize the spl of the woofer in the given environment. I’ve never seen a video of yours where you gave consideration, or rather focused on enclosure tuning. If so I would like to see it.

[@TxcMiasma]

Technically since lower frequencys are usually less in DB because of lower sensitivity the most you'll get is better bass response. You might get slight DB gain with a bigger driver.

[@michaelfessenden8601]

Remember, you can't feel the bass on U-tube. I wonder if the bass was tighter at higher frequency with the 10 or is held with the 12 and 15

[@MotoAtheist]

Total myth that larger subs aren't tight punchy bass. Not sure why this myth is constantly brought up.

[@michaelfessenden8601]

Have you ever heard the first car audio 8 4ohm hit in the 65 hz to 90hz punching you're chest. If you don't know what I'm talking about. You haven't heard it. Wish you did . Amagine that with a modern speaker .

[@NickMillerlouisiana]

Merry Christmas parker! just bought 2 10 inch american bass xfl's gonna pair them up to an old orion hcca D5000 by directed electronics just need to find a decent plan for a box. chose those subs mainly due to your revies on the american bass subs you have done

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

I miss my XFLs man!! You’ll love them

[@williamtomlinson753]

Merry Christmas to you and your family

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

You as well man!!

[@DeCream_Sickle]

Hey man, I have some questions for you about stereo set ups. What is the best way to get in contact with you?

[@frankdurham9807]

Thanks for the info

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Yessir!

[@clintwatson8058]

Merry Christmas to you too Parker ✌️

[@Chris-B-Bassin]

Merry Christmas Parker 🎅

[@deanthonyhicks69]

​@ParkerTheBasshead I wonder if you played different songs back to back if you could tell a difference?

[@chrhadden]

they say 3 db after 98db is like x2. twice as loud

[@markbenoit8358]

Merry Christmas Parker

[@jaysautoandmore1771]

Helped alot. 🔊🔊🔊🔊

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

💪🏼🔊🔊🔊

[@Dpcloxxc]

Merry Christmas, Parker.. question.. what speaker would you go with.. American bass xfl or the deaf bonce machete

[@danruffing5057]

Always njoy your videos man .

[@PHILLY214]

Love how you can see 35-45 is a 3db gain…shows how the boxes have all the same response …not terrible for a prefab but not that good either lol

[@ilikebass-iw7ip]

@parker the bass head. I just got my first system What is the best amp? For the skars. Sorry im new to this

[@joeyholthusen6495]

Try orion hcca subwoofer please... I'm curious

[@trosviettrosviet6818]

Super test merci et joyeux Noël ✌️

[@osomiyadeka270]

How is jl 10wOv3 compared to hertz cs 250 in a sealed box ?

[@lonnyduran8195]

Well I got the notification that I won but it won't let me register I don't know why or how to proceed HELP

[@JGreen46]

Merry Christmas to you too brother

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Merry Christmas!! Hope you have a great day

[@Rick850angler]

Thanks for the knowledge my friend..👍🇺🇸🦅

[@daveshirley6739]

Great content thanks for sharing

[@MattyDaddy14]

Had to delete and re comment on correct video! Haha. Been watching too many of your videos. Also, my fave part of all your videos is how you spl “dyno” all of these subs! Thank you! 🎉

[@KillaSquant420]

Bro its been 13 days where tf u at dawg

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

Took a break over the holidays. New video going up tomorrow! 💪🏼🔊

[@KillaSquant420]

@@ParkerTheBasshead BET HOMIE

[@SuperSportAudioProduction]

Been subscribed, and have followed your Facebook and have it liked for a while

[@ShawnKDooley]

Subs that use the same motor as it goes up in size from 10, to 12, to 15, etc, the Fs will go down as the sub gets larger, and the Qts will go up. One thing few know is if you look at JL subs, as they go up in size, so does the motor size.

[@MotoAtheist]

This isn't just a JL thing, all the major brands increase their voice coils and motors as necessary.

[@carlitot5388]

12s are the sweet spot ! 💪🏽right in between 8s and 10s ! 15s and 18s ! 12s are my favorite 🤩

[@Solar_Daddy]

Do you have to think before starting each sentence.

[@FUBuddy]

"louder" is not really a question, its louder at lower frequencies that matters.

[@SkookJambo]

merry christmas parker , i always love the content and there will always be those people who bash an dont really watch your content I understand what you’re really trying to accomplish but you’re doing great. Keep doing you.!

[@Hellington99]

Parker can you review skar sdr 18inch or lowballer 15 subwoofer?

[@jordanholt6054]

A new video dropped? Christmas really did come early!

[@Tyler1251tyler]

If i have 2 10 inch subs would it hit harder and be louder than 1 12 inch?

[@Lowcut23]

Love your video I’ve been try decide if I need to down size to one good 10” or 12” sub in my car instead of having 2

[@MotoAtheist]

You will lose roughly 3db plus or minus if you maintain the same power and drop a sub. To drop a sub and maintain the same DB, you will need to double your power on the one 12.

[@dnate697]

LMMFAO crushing the small speaker!

[@marathonbaker]

4,000 watts and electrical is just larger alternator, and big 3?

[@marcovaldovinos5009]

Great video .Parker

[@vincyreddragon1895]

American bass king 15” vs deafbonce apocalypse 4515 …… that’s the next comp I wanna see

[@nydrell1969]

I'm an Ole school basshead from the 80's....I've had from 4"in jvc boom boxes up to 18"....to me thee best all around woofer hands down goes to the almighty 10"

[@russellkatz5864]

Hey @nydrell1969, why 10s your opinion? I've always had 12s, but debating moving to 10s, just to change it up and see if/what the difference will be.

[@bassmek21]

I have a question about subs I’m looking into replacing a so quad stack what would be a decent sub to replace that with I have a 3000 watt amp it it broke the spider from the cone looking for something kinda cheap I was looking at skar Audio but how big of a difference is it from a competition sub and an spl sub is there going to be a huge sound to quality difference I want it to sound good but I also want it to Be loud

[@WeeZyF413]

Sweet video, I know this doesn’t pertain to this video exactly but I have an alpine r 12d4 that I hooked up the jumpers ++- and I’m still reading 4ohm to wichever +- terminals I check. Is it just not possible to wire down to 2 or could something be wrong? Thank you. I’m thinking about going American bass when those taxes come in😅

[@MotoAtheist]

You don't check at the sub terminals, you check it at the wires going to the amp. If you are going + to + and - to -, it's called parallel wiring and should drop to 2 ohm at the amp connection, not at the sub terminals.

[@WeeZyF413]

Thank you

[@jeffrobinson4841]

Thank you.

[@kurtsnyder3440]

Skar subs hold up against the more expensive ones. It all depends on what you’re looking for.

[@austynscruggs6867]

Would you suggest 4 8” subs or 2 10” subs or maybe even 2 12” subs either under backseat or behind backseat of a 02 f250. Looking for something that will definitely give me way more bass than my one 12” ds18.

[@kassidybodom]

id say 2 12's for sure. with the correct amp.

[@ChrisCamp-i3q]

All I know is that 10 bass is deeper and a lil tighter more punchy and it gets a lil looser the sizes up

[@lolosolodolo1]

I got the 2 12 sdr 1200 package from Skar and my amp keeps going into thermal protection. I guess time to start upgrading everything.

[@kingwillie206]

Turn the gain down and upgrade the fans.

[@lolosolodolo1]

@@kingwillie206 I’m trying to turn the gain up hahaha. Im looking into upgrading to a more serious system altogether. Getting a new xs battery first.

[@kingwillie206]

@@lolosolodolo1 - I feel you, but the better the system, the lower the gain and the cleaner it will sound. Turn that gain down and get a DSP plus two 1000 watt 12s and a smart 3k for the cheapest upgrade with the biggest bang for your buck.

[@Yeetes-tp7xd]

I just installed to day my skar evl 10 and man it's loud I live it it sounds great it's wired with skar 1500 watt amp skat wiring and a skar line output converter it's works amazing sound quality it goes perfect for my bose system in my cadilcac cts sport wagon and it such a good sub although it's really easy to wire stuff cadilac cts are hard to find stuff on and no really has stuff on my male of car so it took a bit but 10 out of 10 great amazing sub worth the 500 bucks I spent on the whole kit

[@CajunReaper95]

Am I the only one who loves spokd basskets? My SX18 has one and I fell inlove with the look!

[@Silentroller93]

You should get some Savard subs and test those, they sound good and get pretty loud too.

[@josephmuniz9959]

Yo I gotta ask dude. Every time you do your Alphard intro you can see your breaker box, there is a sticker on it. I can see the jeep but the blue thing. Is that a stingray? It’s been killin me because I don’t wanna ask but oh well. 😂. Keep bassin on dude. Happy holidays Parker

[@ParkerTheBasshead]

The sticker is a Jerry Ain’t Loud sticker. The blue thing above the Jeep is JAL

[@josephmuniz9959]

That’s funny. I thought he called it jingaling not stingray lmao 🤣

[@ShelbyOrr-n5u]

You should do a review on the American Bass Godfather 12 on a big boss 3 taramps in your dream truck in a 2.75 cubic inch box because that is my dream build for my 2003 Ford f250 supercrew and verse it against the American Bass XMAXXX 12 in the same box and Amp

[@CajunReaper95]

I’ve never heard that 12’s were louder than 10’s, I’ve heard that 12’s tend to play lower than 10’s.

[@MikeAnnunziato]

Cone area is king they say 💥

[@killer32620]

I had the evl 12s they did real good except I think I had got one defective cause when I pushed them with a taramps smart 3 one of them the dust cap came off which sucked...For my next build Im going with different subs

[@MikeAnnunziato]

You can glue it back on with e6000

[@killer32620]

@@MikeAnnunziato 😂 I did glue it back on but after I got car jacked I had sold my whole setup...

[@mugendrewable]

Thank you for time to produce these videos👍. I would like to see the same test performed in the F250😁. !!! Merry Christmas!!! #KEEPBASSINGON

[@YEBOI-jw3hu]

Hi Parker, can you do a 2x 6.5" subs vs 12"?🎉

[@MotoAtheist]

Why? The 6.5's will be dominated, no test necessary.

[@julianmartin2713]

By the human ear which differentiates sound 3 dB or higher at a time, they will register to the ear as being equal by this test. Vehicle size for ex impacts the result as well. I've run 2 15's, 2 12's of multiple brands, 2 10's & 4 10's. Outside of 2 15's which were absolutely loud my trophy went to the 4 10's which was loud, clear & violent when wanted

[@philipndungu]

Am hoping to learn a lot from parker this new year 2024 right away from kenya

[@ricktbdgc]

I remember choosing 3 10s over 2 - 12s due to the space limitations in my car .. they took all the power my amp could make without being overloaded.. ended up making 144 db so happy with that result. Also I heard 10's can give a better sound quality but i dunno

[@MotoAtheist]

Smaller subs need to move further in and out to create the same freq. versus larger subs. The more a subwoofer moves, the more distortion it can add. When it comes to bass, smaller subs will always be less quality when it comes to bass. However, the level of tech these days makes these differences far less noticeable. Bass is already less prone to distortion in the first place, hence why people will often push a little beyond clipping on occasion. That's why smaller subs still sound good enough to get the job done. But they will never out do the larger subs sound quality wise all else being equal.

[@Ricky-ms4fu]

How's everything going sir am really hoping u can help me out I have a 2014 Mazda CX 5 with the Bose system am going to change my head unit and speakers but I don't know if I want a amp and subwoofer combo or just go with a amplifier and one 12inch sub it's a hard decision

[@MFFOG]

Cone area is still 🤴 Given same sub series, power, specs, environment, etc. Tested under the same set of variables, bigger is better🎬

[@e2.certified]

i have 3 skar 8 inch subs running on a boss 1500 watt amp running off stock battery and alternator im wondering what i should upgrade to next to get more oomf out of my system i just doesnt feel like enough at all right now

[@MotoAtheist]

If you're maxed out power wise, your only logical option is to go with larger subs. Despite all the BS claims out there, and that's exactly what they are are, BS, smaller subs will never out perform larger subs.

[@e2.certified]

@@MotoAtheist thanks man i’m now running a 5k but it def made a big diffrence but for right now. i just got a charger and don’t know what i need to be able to install them in it and keep all my controls and stuff

[@TheSkepticSkwerl]

There is a noticable difference but it takes 10db to double the volume. Also 140 db is ear damaging

[@yemajdleifyam7554]

Love the SKAR products.

[@yemajdleifyam7554]

Just very hard to beat their prices on hard hitting subs.

[@juanroque4452]

Thanks Parker for the videos Merry Christmas brother

[@pgasper1]

Are there any other SPL meters than spl_lab that will measure my subwoofer? Spl_lab is very expensive. My umik-1 microphone reaches its limit in my car 😢 at 123db

[@christhorney]

the sensitivity and max rms it can take should dictate how loud it is, you could have a 12 thats louder than a 10, and vice versa, also tuning freq of the port

[@strykerls3740]

You’re easily way better than exocontralto. One of the best basshead channels on KZbin. You deserve to hit at least 500k by now. Never stop uploading. Merry Christmas brotha