Wow, these were really close! 1dB will not be noticeable by most people, usually takes closer to 3dB to be able to "hear" the difference. Either way, fun and educational video. Great job!
@ParkerTheBasshead Жыл бұрын
Yessir! Thank you Big D!
@Based_wrld Жыл бұрын
@@ParkerTheBassheadpause
@damirskee8990 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@BenHeien Жыл бұрын
A 3db gain doubles the spl. 133 is twice as loud as 130db. But for a human ear to perceive a doubling of volume it requires a 9db gain, super odd!😊
@jacktheripper-hp9tx8 ай бұрын
look at the watt difference 450 watt
@trinilovaboi9699 Жыл бұрын
Love this video. Nobody does content like this. What people actually want too see. Keep up the good work Parker 🎉
@josephmuniz9959 Жыл бұрын
Which sounded better, that’s the real question dude. Awesome video man keep bringing the content 👍
@dominicdymond Жыл бұрын
Run all 3 and see if you actually get more or not. Everyone says don't mix sub sizes.
@mrbig4423 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@jackkight7771 Жыл бұрын
You can mix but you should run off different amps because the tuning will b different between sizes
@MichaelJohnson-je2vo Жыл бұрын
My friends and I have been mixing sub sizes for years running all on the same amp and in some cases in the same box and never heard any complaints
@MichaelJohnson-je2vo Жыл бұрын
If he runs all three it will be like running 1 15 and 1 18 he will definitely get gains
@steveclark9934 Жыл бұрын
Running different size subs in the same box is the main concern possibly blowing out the weaker subs. Now if in separate boxes with different tuning you will cover a broader/larger frequency range which can help in a SQ setup.
@TheBluuHouse Жыл бұрын
Wow, Great comparison test. The 15" gives close to the same output if not more for less power consumption.
@chrisclawson296 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing a 15 comparison with two 12s. That's one of the things I've been thinking about.
@ponokanaka Жыл бұрын
A lot of people with this exact idea in their mind could benefit from being subbed to your channel. I remember seeing this kind of question with 2x10 vs 1x12, and 2x12 vs 1x15, whether on the old forums or on FB groups. I enjoyed this video. I think for some it could boil down to their trunk and whether they want to sacrifice the length of their trunk and have a slimmer depth with a pair or have a square shaped single sub and still have half the trunk, or the height of a single 15 wouldn’t clear the trunk
@lifeofandrew701 Жыл бұрын
2 basic 12's are equal to 1 good ass 15"? That's what I'm getting from this.
@MrSzero13 Жыл бұрын
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS !!! love these type of videos AWESOME CONTENT PARKER AS ALWAYS !!!!
@ParkerTheBasshead Жыл бұрын
I appreciate it man!
@csj9619 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison Parker. Quite a few people have asked me this question over the years. One major advantage to a single sub is needing less power, equating to no need to upgrade charging system, which is a big expense.
@rationalguy2941 Жыл бұрын
Two subs would be much more efficient. Meaning they would be louder with less power.
@salimsopari Жыл бұрын
im pretty sure i saw 5000w you def need to upgrade your charging system to handle that
@jimbobdobbs15975 ай бұрын
It all comes down to driver sensitivity response. It seems everyone (these days) equates a huge motor and stiff suspension to a BETTER driver.. and really if you want to get loud w/o upgrading you charging system, you need 1) and efficient amp that has a low distortion factor, 2) a SENSITIVE sub that matches the output parameters of that amp, 3) a complimentary enclosure that works with that sub to reproduce the type of result you are going for. What a lot off people fail to recognize, is you can have LOUD bass response in a relatively low bandwidth range, OR musicality in a wider range of response, but you are going to lose that little range of boost where you would be tuning that boost. Soo many times i built an awesome setup, only to find that some songs just made ya tear up with how great it sounded, but play a different track and it sounds like a kid whacking a bucket with a stick
@ronaldwhitt3691 Жыл бұрын
Love the content...so many people have these questions daily and it's so hard to find answers. A lot of times it's expensive to experiment. It's so much easier to look up a video with real-world results. Keep up the great work and bass on basshead
@aidanafshar8744 Жыл бұрын
When I had my sub setup was running a single DC Audio Neo Elite 15" on a Dc Audio 5k soundlab in a ported box. It was awesome, had to upgrade the alternator, ran an extra yellowtop in the trunk, ran 8 guage from sub to amp & 2 guage throughout the vehicle. Could only bump hard for 10 mins before needing a cooldown 😢
@Kwa_njayam Жыл бұрын
Here in South Africa we actually have Toyota minibus taxis with six 15 inch subs on a daily😵💫
@yes_man212Ай бұрын
Holy shit that bitch probably hits as hard as god doing a slam dunk
@TheRepos296 Жыл бұрын
Exciting stuff, definitely would like to see evl 12's v evl 15. Fantastic video, pretty scientific stuff buddy 👌. Can't wait to see the one 18 v 2 , 15's maybe deaf bonce. Excellent experiment.
@eddisoncassius4994 Жыл бұрын
This also shows you that the 15" took less power and gave out more spl than the two 12s also i like the fact that you kept them in the same brand
@mrreggiej85 Жыл бұрын
LOVE THE SCIENTIFIC TYPE VIDEOS!!!! Went with 1 good 15" this time but I definitely plan on doing some more experimenting for the summer
@1helidude Жыл бұрын
I have two 15” DDS SKAR subs couldn’t fit in my Caddy. Had to buy one single 12 tube by SKAR. Sounds loud and good but not the same. The 15’s not only sounded better, you actually feel the shaking of the subs and the car vibrates as well. The 12” woofer sounds good but no feeling behind it. 😢
@TG-qy3us10 ай бұрын
Crazy how close the results are.another good video bud
@brockmarquis8511 Жыл бұрын
Great video dude. Ds18 ZXl 15. 30mm xmaxx been really studying this sub for some time. Price drop to 299 made them more appealing. Love to see you test them out.
@jameskyser9423 Жыл бұрын
2 Evl 12s vs 1 Evl 15 on the same power and then max power would be very interesting. Do it!
@pjIVprez Жыл бұрын
I run 1 15 in an angled box since I have a sedan and trunk space is needed for groceries and it’s perfect, bass is smooth even when hooked up with a 1500w amp
@zenmuse6ix582 Жыл бұрын
I want to get 1 15 sub what is a good one to get and I have a Honda civic
@SoberBassHead Жыл бұрын
I would like to see 2 8s vs 1 12. Thanks Parker.
@evilinside5984Ай бұрын
2-8s will be close in the 45 Hz, & up range, but not close in 40 Hz, & Lower, imo.
@MrDopey32 Жыл бұрын
Awesome test Parker!! This video should help a lot of people out on decisions!
@ditto_75 Жыл бұрын
I wish you would have tested the difference between 25hz and 30hz. I wonder if the 15 would substantially pull ahead the lower you go in hertz. One or two decibels in basically a tie on the daily. Thanks for the vids.
@ndcpain465 Жыл бұрын
Yea u right hopefully he see this
@jdextlab25 күн бұрын
Those boxes probably aren’t tuned to hit that low so the subs will just lose control and sound like crap
@RyanThomas-ux2rf5 ай бұрын
I was searching the Internet looking for a good comparison between a single 15" EVL and a dual 12" SVR loaded enclosure deal. Single 15" or a dual 12" are the biggest that I can fit in my trunk. If the (2) SDR are hitting as good as the 15, that means the SVR will be even better. Thanks for the info.
@jerrymatthews1053 Жыл бұрын
I know they say not to mix sub sizes! but I like a hard punch of two 12’z, but I also like the deep bass of two 15’z too. So I like the best of both worlds at the same time! I’ve ran both at the same time before and sounded really good as long as u tweek it lol
@toneyellison2102 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2 12 and 15 setup now, and I love it
@jimbobdobbs1597 Жыл бұрын
@@toneyellison2102 same amp or seperate?
@MikeMik869 ай бұрын
Technically two 12s have more cone area, but since you went with cheaper 12s this results make sense. Another idea would be the old square vs round sub debate. Thanks for the videos! Cone area = pi x (r x r) pi = 3.14 r = radius of sub One 8" = 50.27 One 10" = 78.54 One 12" = 113.1 One 15" = 176.71 One 18" = 254.47 Two 8" = 100.53 Two 10" = 157.08 Two 12" = 226.19 Two 15" = 353.43 Two 18" = 508.94 Three 8" = 150.8 Three 10" = 235.62 Three 12" = 339.29 Three 15" = 530.14 Three 18" = 763.41 Four 8" = 201.06 Four 10" = 314.16 Four 12" = 452.39 Four 15" = 706.86 Four 18" = 1017.87
@20smgreen Жыл бұрын
I like that you did it within a dollar value, but yes, you should also do it comparing different sizes in the same line/level.
@ADA513 Жыл бұрын
Should have done one 18" vs two 12"s since the total cone area is closer to the same.
@davidmarles9409 Жыл бұрын
This stands true to what I have always read and thought myself.
@kevinAuman1 Жыл бұрын
Yes please get some 18's on the channel, doesn't matter what you compare them to just wanna see your overall thoughts on the 18in woofer if it is worth spending extra money and sacrificing extra space for a bigger box or should you just buy 2-12/2-15 instead 🤷♂️
@daveflowers3070 Жыл бұрын
Love a 15, i used to have a 15" Fosgate t1 on 1k powerbass monoblock in the trunk of a kia optima. Man that thing slapped.
@marthepedersen14549 ай бұрын
so you have nothing now?
@daveflowers30709 ай бұрын
@@marthepedersen1454 yeah I have nothing now. I'm 50 years old and lost interest. I've helped my youngest son recently build a system with a skar sub, and Def bonce doors. It's louder than mine was.
@FAQBrooks Жыл бұрын
I'm fixing to build a new system and this really helps me make a decision!
@col98 Жыл бұрын
I’m currently running two of the Deaf Bonce SA-302’s love them so far. They slam and the sound quality is great
@sanderapa6168 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see one beefy 15" vs 2 weaker 15", would they be the sameish or would cone area beat raw power.
@jeffferguson6910 ай бұрын
I think cone area for the win unless the 1 15 is on another level. Like way on another level lol
@CrashPCcz2 ай бұрын
Depends on the situation,but more overall coil mass, coil area, displacement volume, box volume, all that will rather win. Especially so when high end drivers scale poorly with price.
@quevicular Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of running them all at the same time and seeing the results
@lolosolodolo1 Жыл бұрын
I have 2 sdr 12 on 1200 watts and my buddy at work has 1 sdr 15 on 800 watts. He wants to upgrade to an Evl 15 but I know he will get better results by getting a bigger box. This proves it.
@freecake1 Жыл бұрын
curious to see if sealed would make the difference larger or not
@kramnull8962 Жыл бұрын
Damn I have been brainstorming about this for my Colorado...
@jaylencovington8129 Жыл бұрын
12s gone hit harder then 15s just looking at the numbers let’s goo
@MichaelJohnson-je2vo Жыл бұрын
I did all these things when I was young not knowing what the heck I was doing and always got good results my systems sounded better than guys who get big bucks at car shops😊😊😊😊❤
@yougod7253 Жыл бұрын
Parker those 15s have a undersized magnet and motor. 12s all day.
@nohairdontcare8803 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video of 2 Skar EVL 6.5 vs 1 EVL 8, 2 EVL 8 vs 1 EVL 10, etc. and would be willing to donate some 💵 towards the tests
@Bassknots Жыл бұрын
These are cool videos. I’m currently going with 1 15 over the 2 12
@thomasnygard2334 Жыл бұрын
Going to 2 12s from 1 15 myself looking for a little more sq than spl
@chadwems Жыл бұрын
@@thomasnygard2334 2 12s are more musical. sound good on all music and gets louder
@jimmyjam5588 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing that up
@ItsDevlcon Жыл бұрын
Two evl 12s will definitely out perform 1 evl 15 lol. Make it fair an make it a zvx 15 :p Still really want to see you review the hooligan18 15"... Great video as always! Much love from Seattle!
@PurpleSneeu5 ай бұрын
I love that dual 12inch box planning on a new build think ill build something similar
@ChannelZeroOne Жыл бұрын
I learned this the hard way. For decades I would only run 2 subs. Later in life I needed the space more than I needed the sound. I found out the loudness seemed about the same. I went from 2 10's to a single 12. Now I have a single evl 15. I would advise against the SDR's as they are junk in my opinion. The evls are clearly better than the Kicker solo's from my expereince. I would choose the Comps over the SDRs as well.
@ozzayyyy Жыл бұрын
What do you think about the SVRS
@evilinside5984Ай бұрын
The single 15" was Louder, than the (2)- 12", with less power @ every freq., below 45 Hz! Then @ 45 Hz the (2)- 12" were only 1/2 Db louder than the single 15", but it took 334 more watts to do so. The more fair, cone area wise comparison, would have been (1)- 18" D2 Zvx, vs (2)- 12" D4 Sdr's, 254 sq. In. Vs 226 sq. In. Of cone area. Put both in a 5 Cu. Ft. Net enclosure, tuned @ 30 Hz, with both having 70 sq. In. Of port area. This would be really Awesome to see!
@belowme70-19 күн бұрын
Cant get around the fact that 2 12s displace more air than 1 15. 24" vs 15". Power ratings left aside ofc.
@poiterkatane6849 Жыл бұрын
A video we've all been waiting for 🤪🤪🤪🤪 Love from South Africa
@tylerross2968 Жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for all you do for the bass community.
@olivermay4033 Жыл бұрын
Can you see about a really high quality amp on a cheap sub vs high quality sub with a cheap amp
@chrisclawson296 Жыл бұрын
That'd be interesting
@elektriceye Жыл бұрын
That's very interesting! In theory thise 2x12 should have been louder, but they weren't. Very interesting!
@kingkongon6s499 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see how much power 2-evl 12’s can handle !🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
@highoutputdriver Жыл бұрын
Grab the triple 8 skar preload box and do the same test. Curious how that stacks up, I have heard the triple 8 box from skar can get into the 140s.
@Swagory Жыл бұрын
I’m interested in seeing the 2 EVL 12 test
@RyanThomas-ux2rf5 ай бұрын
They have a triple EVL 12 option too
@DeadBodyShawty Жыл бұрын
Parker:What did we learn? Me: Cone area is king
@haelaqeeli9864Ай бұрын
Thank you for the excellent videos and help you always offer! Myself I would do 30hz and maybe 50-60hz tests, as I am seeing from your test the 12’s would be better for 45hz+ maybe say 60hz they’d be at 140db or so, below 35hz the 15” wins, so for 25-45hz get the 15” for 35-60hz get the 12’s maybe?
@michaelbrooks9450 Жыл бұрын
Let’s see the 2 12 evl. For a better comparison
@BenSinz45s Жыл бұрын
Cool video, man. I would like to see a comparison of 4 8's skar evl's vs. 2 12 evl's
@jeffferguson6910 ай бұрын
You’ll notice especially with how hard they hit. I’d take 2 12’s over 1 15 but it depends on the vehicle. I do like the idea of 1 15 tho
@paquesepas6696 Жыл бұрын
Also out of these 2 setups in the video, what sounded the best to you parker?
@iblameshanemane92049 ай бұрын
When I first went from my 2~12 inch U series sundown’s to 1 15 inch Xv2 there was a huge difference and I just change the baffle on the box so it’s the same box
@derecksanders8141 Жыл бұрын
A full EVL test is needed!
@getpaid200 Жыл бұрын
Should have used the same 15 as the 12s just to see how it stacked up.
@michaelfreni5565 Жыл бұрын
An EVL to EVL full comparison would be better. Thx
@strongholdpro1974 Жыл бұрын
youve come a long way my audio hatchling
@TheEinart Жыл бұрын
Love how you testing out stuff like this😃🙏
@masonbukovich659 Жыл бұрын
I'd really love to see 1 18 vs 2 12s. Or maybe a couple of 10s compared to a 15?
@BlitzkriegStaffords Жыл бұрын
a single 18 vs a pair of 12s makes the most sense
@rel8m868 Жыл бұрын
yoooo 6:21 $uicideboy$ - praisethedevil you're a real one dude!
@MemphisMojo15s Жыл бұрын
I'll stsy with my Mojo 15's. Thanks for the upload
@adamnorwood8084 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏 for the video. We learn so much from ya. My 8 year old BrodyMan listen to what ya say.
@Mr1Tanker Жыл бұрын
I know this is mostly about SPL, but what about SQ? I realize that is subjective, but if both setups "perform" similarly, and one sounds noticeably better... buying the better SQ setup is a no-brainer... all else being equal. edit: typo
@chaddcole5150 Жыл бұрын
I was scoping that 15 not too long ago, i bet it bangs!
@Richietoyo Жыл бұрын
I thinks 8's are becoming pretty popular. How bout a vs's with 8's & 10's
@a1praz0 Жыл бұрын
I went with 8s instead of 10s or 12s in my wrx hatch and I couldn't be happier. 8s have come a loooong way over the last decade.
@jimbobdobbs1597 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Really good idea.
@dirtysouthpyro198111 ай бұрын
3 10"s vs 2 12"s vs 1 15", all the same EVL or same line from whatever brand(deaf bounce, sundown, incriminator, SKAR). Which setup gets the best bang/boom for your buck. Of course all 3 setups matched to cubic feet & RMS watts in the same vehicle. So for instance would 2 skar evl 10's hit harder than 2 12" evl's or 1 15"??? Or maybe swap the 15" for a 18" but not everybody can run a 18 so the 15 may still be a better choice. I'm trying to decide which way to go now myself. Im currently running a single Memphis mojo pro 12" in a skar 2.0cft box on a skar rp.1200 @4ohms(500watts). Im trying to figure my next move & running the 2 12's side by side wont work in my Acura TSX. So do i run 1 deaf bounce 3512 in a 2.65cft box, add another skar single box with another Memphis Mojo Pro or up size to a 15" skar evl in a 3.15cft box???? Im very happy with the single mojo pro but of course i want more bass😂😂😂
@gabrielkatzenmeier2655 Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool bud. Keep Bassin on.
@bradgilpin9740 Жыл бұрын
Great video Parker!!!
@playaplaya05 Жыл бұрын
Deaf Bonce for the WIN!!! 💯💯💯
@myboy05119 күн бұрын
Also depends on what you are looking for. What kind of music do you mostly listen to. Fast moving bass or lower frequency slower bass. If accuracy matters to you maybe the 12”s are a better choice. Personally in my experience, 15’s hit the low frequencies with ease and smoother than 12’s. Yes there are so many different variations. I have a SQ system. I run two 12’s in the back and one ten in the front footwell. 12’s produce the lower frequencies and the 10 gives me the fast accurate chest punch that compliments my 8” mid bass perfectly. Crossovers are Rear 12’s are 0-50hz Front 10 is 50-100hz 8” midbass 100-270hz 3.5” mid 270-3850hz 1”Tweeter 3850-20khz Use a Helix DSP ultra.
@jyjyfleming5529 Жыл бұрын
this video was perfect thank you
@ericwheelhouse4371 Жыл бұрын
15” is more efficient for essentially the same dB. Less power and more equal across the frequencies.
@danielowens9013 Жыл бұрын
I’m always thinking the other way would it be better with one extremely good twelve or two budget 15’s
@marthepedersen14549 ай бұрын
but two 15 take up waaay more space/weight
@beyondthedetails Жыл бұрын
So basically 2 12’s of the same model would be much Louder. EVL’s sound way better than the SVR’s
@johnpresha8295 ай бұрын
Yeah evl sound better than svrs but realistically elvs are not mych louder uf they are even louder than svr. I ran a single evl and it was even that loud but it sounded amazing and shook my car to hell and back😅
@ABEULER1981 Жыл бұрын
Great Video keep up the good work
@trosviettrosviet6818 Жыл бұрын
Super test , continue comme ça 👍
@Robertb00 Жыл бұрын
2-Dc audio level 3 12’s build recommended enclosure straight from their website. Port facing passenger side of tailgate.
@dantedijon1 Жыл бұрын
Sub in the background chilling and a monster
@209Twinz209 Жыл бұрын
Nice. I learned something. Thanks brothah.
@forstdude2377 ай бұрын
I needed this thank you🎉🎉
@jamesbryant7355 Жыл бұрын
Great content nice power ratings
@paquesepas6696 Жыл бұрын
Do sealed 1 15 vs 2 12 both in speced sealed boxes. Can also analyze the sound quality or what bass each setup hits better. Thanks great video.
@dirtyglovekennels616 Жыл бұрын
I'm not for sure, but I think he's one of those bass heads that don't do sealed😂
@charliefrancis6438 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see 4 cheap 12s vs 1 expensive one $300-$400 vs 4 $75-$100 surface area surface area average it’s about 75 square inches for a 12 and about 125 for a 15
@taxxzempt3576 Жыл бұрын
I drive a pick up, quad cab. Makes subwoofers tricky. Went from an orian hcca 15 down to a skar evl 12 to save space but I miss the volume of the hcca. Was thinking about selling the evl and getting two stronger skars (forgot name) in a 10” So slightly bigger then solo 12 but with 20” of boomboom Do 10s hit lows? Going to do a standard ported box
@mr.mopedmadness3441 Жыл бұрын
I had a sundown sa8 v2 on a Memphis 1100D in a box tuned to 27 hz and let me tell you for an 8in the lows were pretty ridiculous
@bradmeek Жыл бұрын
I'm a DD man through and through but deaf bonce subs are fucking mental 👌🏻❤️
@marthepedersen14549 ай бұрын
b2 audio👊👊👊👊👊👊👊
@oneguy281 Жыл бұрын
Yes, please run the same subwoofer.
@thetruthtings Жыл бұрын
I know a guy who had a ma audio 4400 high current 2 channel amp and a 08 Memphis mojo 15 in a trailblazer. You could here it from blocks away all deep and loud bass hitting harder that almost every body that had sounds in the hood. He probably was doing 145db on rap music
@mcantarino Жыл бұрын
2 12's might give you a bit more quality because of stationary waves and less moving mass, the 15 might get you a little deeper but there are so many other variables only way to find out is to try it ..
@oscarishandsome5150 Жыл бұрын
This is said frequently but in reality nobody can tell if they're hearing a 12 or 15 plus you can shape the sound as you want with your box by using either a 12 or 15