PART 2: CAMBERED BAR SHOOTOUT REVIEW! 5 BARS: Kabuki, Elite FTS, Rep Fitness, BOS, Titan!!

[@MacStrengthCo]

Get the Rep bar here> repfitness.com/#61447e8515cef

[@marvellstarks2434]

Thanks for coming out with part 2 so quick. Rep bar it is soon as they come back in stock

[@MacStrengthCo]

Took all day to upload. We live in the country. You could tell REP did a great job designing that bar. The hand placements were perfect.

[@stephencronin304]

Outstanding review. I've had the EliteFTS for years, love it and use it constantly.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Awesome!💪🏼 Since the review went live I’ve had a ton of positive feedback on the Elite and REP bar.

[@javiersgym]

How did I miss this!? 🤦🏽‍♂️ Awesome review! Thank you for the comparisons video. I’m definitely in the market but now that rogue hinting at there version Otto be interesting to see the reviews. As of now I’m leaning toward that rep one

[@MacStrengthCo]

The market is full of options right now! Keep me posted and I would recommend the Rep bar. The new Rogue bar probably won’t fit a REP or SORINEX rack due to width.

[@Maximphotostudio]

Great review! I just purchased the REP bar based on your video. Thank you.

[@MacStrengthCo]

You will enjoy it I'm sure. I still use it as my go to bar.

[@JDrago-746]

Great Shootout here, agree 100%. My garage gym is mostly a hybrid of Rogue, Rep and Elite FTS so I do like a variety but the Rep bar truly is phenomenal and such a value, Nice to see rep come out with some dominant upgrades like the swiss bar & future "Ares" rack add-on.

[@MacStrengthCo]

REP is really taking some huge steps in making better products. This bar blew me away with it's quality.

[@JoelP1961]

Thanks for posting this highly informative review, I’m partial to Rep fitness because of their cost versus quality but I am open minded to buying other brands as well. You made it easier for me to decide on which bar to get! 👊

[@MacStrengthCo]

Glad it was helpful. Check out Part 1 for all the specs and more detailed pictures. Cheers!

[@Nick-1828]

Thanks for the videos! I ended up buying Rep’s cambered bar the day it released and I’ve been liking it. Took a lot not to pull the trigger on Elite FTS and Kabuki’s Kadillac bar but clearance was always in the back of my mind. Only downside to a home gym is not being able to test drive the equipment you want to buy 😂

[@MacStrengthCo]

Well as you can see it’s a great bar and Rep had the advantage of taking some of the better features of other bars. My Titan bar felt “ok” until I used these other ones!😂

[@McDoomite]

This is the comparison video I’ve been wanting! Great reviews, and you confirmed what I had been thinking with the Rep vs EliteFTS bars.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Glad it was helpful. I’ve got an updated spreadsheet on my instagram page. Cheers!

[@Dz-em2wl]

And what exactly was you thinking, because I'm also torn between the two and wondering which of the two you decided upon

[@authentichealthcoach4142]

Great review! I own the Elite FTS Yoke bar and I have been impressed with their quality. I am going to order the Elite FTS American cambered bar.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Hell ya!!! 🤙🏼

[@spiderman63754]

I never thought about rack width until the Kabuki bar came out. I have the EliteFTS bar and a 2x3 rack and it always seems very tight, but I never have a problem racking it. I never thought it the taper helping with that but it does. Great review!

[@MacStrengthCo]

Thanks!!!

[@kenkenly3785]

Great video and very imformative. This video was the final nudge for me. I bought the Rep bar.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Glad to help 👍🏻

[@hwknswltr]

Great video. Very helpful with my upcoming purchase for my sons football training

[@MacStrengthCo]

Glad it was helpful!

[@richardjennings4685]

Excellent review! I have been looking at cambered multi-grip bars for a while and was down to the elitefts and the Rep bars. Unfortunately elitefts is out of stock so I ordered the Rep, but because of this review I will be ordering the elitefts when it is available. Thanks for the honest opinions.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Glad I could help!!

[@yakitorisamurai3583]

Bought the rep bar because of this. Great review. Thank you

[@MacStrengthCo]

still my go to bar.

[@thedreamdennis1853]

Love your reviews ,thanks for everything.

[@MacStrengthCo]

You are so welcome!

[@ShawntreezyBreezy]

Thanks bro, I really want a cambered multigrip bar and was leaning towards REP just from looking at it, you helped that decision

[@MacStrengthCo]

It's the very best for the price hands down. I have ordered the $800 Rogue cambered bar to compare and see if it's worth 3x the price. Stay tuned! cheers.

[@teacopem]

​@@MacStrengthCoit wasn't was it

[@mikepritchard3360]

I truly appreciate that you were honest about the Elitefts bar even though you’re a Rep affiliate. Dave Tate actually says they don’t want knurling on the Swiss bar so you can make minor adjustments much easier. The grip is perfect with chalk. Referenced from Table Talk episode 115. Also, the Kadillac bar is like a designer product, don’t feel bad about it not being the best lol

[@MacStrengthCo]

Thanks Mike. I'm fortunate to not have to cave to the affiliate pressures and don't do this for the money. I had enough of the youtube sales pitches and started this channel to get some honest feedback out there.

[@rickherrick1732]

Appreciate the terrific review. I also like your presentation style. Calm, intelligent and easy to listen to. I already had my mind made up to get the Rep bar so watching videos to confirm that. I like the Elite bar as well but I want this bar for seal rows more than anything. It looked like the offset part of the Elite bar may not be wide enough the clear the width of the bench (I have 2 Rogue benches)? Also not sure how you can sleep at night knowing you have that incredible gym to go to. Very envious...

[@MacStrengthCo]

Much appreciated!

[@dirtdog5045]

Yeah I've got the Kabuki, and the elite fts bar, and I prefer the fts bar too. I've got a Rep rack, and the Kabuki is a focused rerack, and the wide grip which is the grip I use for flat bench is just a little too wide on the Kabuki. Also the fts has a great close grip, and the Kabuki bar doesn't even have one like you pointed out. The only time when not having a knurl on the fts comes into play for me is when I use it for hammer curls. So completely agree with your assessment.

[@MacStrengthCo]

That's refreshing to hear and thanks for the feedback. I wanted the Kadillac to just be unreal and blow away the competition but the Elite Bar surprised me. They are offering free shipping on it right now hence the lower price so it's a great deal right now.

[@PeteWheelz_JACKED]

Great video! Love your videos and LMZ Fitness

[@MacStrengthCo]

Thanks!! Appreciate you.👏🏻

[@JoeyJungleGym]

Great review. Very fair assessments. After watching, was headed to REP to put a bar on backorder. SOLD OUT. On the waiting list. Nemesis will have to do for another couple months.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Reps bar sold out in minutes on the initial offering! They keep restocking but it’s still selling out. It’s an awesome bar!

[@JoeyJungleGym]

@@MacStrengthCo Had to be a good parent and get the kids Easter stuff done before the bar accidentally showed up :) damn rabbit. I like this channel, just stumbled across it. Going check out some more vids.

[@JonathanTReviews]

I've watched this video several times, as I've been deliberating the Rep vs Kabuki like crazy. In theory, I like aspects of each. Between the lower price tag and other attributes you mentioned, I may change direction and go with the Rep. Thanks for putting together this comprehensive assessment of your experience. Subbed. Cheers

[@MacStrengthCo]

The Kaddillac is more known because of the folklore around it and it's prestige of being one of the original bars. Respect to Chris for designing it but it lacks some functionality like close grip and the outer grips are too wide for most and is wide and bulky to handle. REP's bar was very thought out and well designed and for the price is unbeatable.

[@MacStrengthCo]

I have another video coming out tomorrow where I review the NEW Rogue MG4-CN and put it up against the REP bar. There's also a Part-1 to this series. cheers!

[@JonathanTReviews]

@@MacStrengthCo Thanks, I'll definitely check it out! Cheers

[@scottcharlton129]

Nice work. Very thorough.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Much appreciated!

[@Albinodragon80]

Thanks so much for ur analysis. I think I’m going with Rep when it’s back in stock. I do have a Rep PR 4000.

[@MacStrengthCo]

I think you will be very happy with it. The ease of racking made all the difference for me.

[@baconblaster6422]

Great review thanks man helped allot

[@MacStrengthCo]

Glad I could help

[@jamestonbellajo]

Thanks a lot for this thorough breakdown of all of those bars. I’m glad you liked the EliteFTS bar since it’s not too popular. Interestingly, Titan makes a clone of it. Would love to see a comparison if you ever get your hands on it.

[@tonyricperez3214]

The titan doesn't have the angle though for the two outer grips

[@MacStrengthCo]

I'm honestly about done with Titan. The products have slowly degrading my faith in that company with horrible customer service.

[@Gnoll-1337]

Great video! Thanks for the info

[@MacStrengthCo]

Thanks. Appreciate it.

[@markhalstead2386]

Enjoyed both parts. For me, Rep Fitness had not released their bar, so it was Elite FTS or Kabuki. I went with Kabuki for the standard sleeves. I have fairly long arms, so I like the 29” handle width. I also have a Rogue rack, so rack clearance is not as much of an issue.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Excellent choice and it’s an awesome bar but I had to pick one with budget in mind. Of course REP bar just came out so they had the advantage of latest design.

[@nathanhenwood8182]

Great review! A ton of effort and time. Would you prefer the elite FTS bar over the rep due to more cambered grip options? My only hesitancy about the rep bar is having only one grip to utilize the extra depth. thank you for all your amazing content!

[@MacStrengthCo]

I prefer the overall build quality on the Rep bar and the more I train with it the more I like it. The curved or cambered depth thing is kind misleading because any grip narrower than your shoulders you sorta hit your body before gaining more depth. The elite bar is nice too and offers some great grip options but doesn’t have nice sleeves and the handles are smooth. Anything wider than the rep handles seemed to irritate my shoulders on the other bars. Buy what you like but hope this adds so insight. Cheers!🤙🏼

[@vintageweightspgh]

Great points on the Titan. I just picked one up used, because I wanted to get a multi grip in my training while debating a more pricey cambered. Right way the two things you mentioned hit home with me. Too wide, I have to really make sure I grip center, and I almost always hit my uprights when trying to rack it lol.

[@MacStrengthCo]

I started with the Titan also and it was a good intro into multigrips bars. The REP bar is the best deal going right now but it's selling out constantly due to demand.

[@majorgear1021]

They narrowed the bar and made it lighter in v3 of their bar. Give it a shot it you find someone to buy your current bar.

[@hby7768]

I was on the fence right when i got the email to preorder the rep 1st batch. I miss that order window. After watching all the reviews, i went on the waitlist and was able to order one on the 2nd preorder window a few weeks ago. My left shoulder impingement is stopping me from doing certain lifts for a good few months, can’t wait to have the rep bar to hopefully nip that problem for good. I’m also waiting for american bar bell double T-grip bar. They have been sold out since the beginning of 2022. Hopefully you take an interest in that bar and do a review. Really enjoying your take on these equipments.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Thanks I really appreciate that. I think everyone has their own opinion on equipment but I try to offer a view point from your middle class dad buying equipment. I don't care about brand names more about how they perform. I need to look into that AB double T-grip bar. I'm waiting for the REP trap bar to come out which is taking forever! cheers, Rylan

[@trevorbiro1708]

Hey Average Dad!! lol ..Great Review as always. You brought up a lot of good points that I wouldn't have thought of without actually trying these bars out. Keep up the good work!!

[@MacStrengthCo]

Thanks! Thats how I find out who watched the whole video! cheers, Rylan

[@allpraisetothemosthigh7770]

Fun watch.. thanks! I got the BOS.. on sale for 159 bucks with free shipping.

[@MacStrengthCo]

same bar I started with.

[@samrmills]

Nice thorough review. I have a kabuki now in my garage gym. Thinking of trading it in now for the rep for all the things you’ve pointed out and from what I’ve experienced with the kabuki

[@MacStrengthCo]

I have the new narrow version of the Rogue bar and will drop a review on it soon but I paid nearly $800 for it and the REP bar actually is better balanced and feels more stable so go figure.

[@samrmills]

@@MacStrengthCo thx! I’ll watch for that video! If you could pick your two favorites for how they’re different yet still solid pieces what two would you go with? I’m guessing I’ll keep two for awhile and let go of my least favorite between kabuki and rep

[@MacStrengthCo]

@@samrmills I didn't like the Kabuki enough to make that a top choice, It doesn't have narrow grip and I found it's wide grips too wide for my frame. REP's has a great balance and it's my go to cambered bar if I was to suggest owning just one bar. It's cheaper but all the angles are spot on and the stainless sleeves are really nice. Rogue's looks the best and has the nicest frame and handles but also cost's $800! Keep me posted as Im curious what you decide. cheers!

[@samrmills]

@@MacStrengthCo Thx! I wish the kabuki had a more narrow grip and I dislike it's hard angled frame. Doesn't feel good when/if it's resting on the body and scares me to think about the blood from racking my head on it getting up or going down on the bench. A rounded bar like Rep's would at least give me "peace of mind" in that aspect.

[@MacStrengthCo]

​@@samrmills Yup. I found the same things!

[@Thepokechoprx]

Wow dude I can tell the effort you had to give to put this out, great review. My next big purchase is probably gonna be a cambered bar so this definitely helps me. Did you do any rows or pulling type movements with these when testing them out? That’s one exercise I didn’t see on your video that I think I would use. Great job though!

[@MacStrengthCo]

Personally to use a cambered bar for anything other than bench is really reaching outside what it’s designed for. Lat pull attachments are cheap and plentiful to find and do a far better job. Most of the companies over sell equipment by showing you countless movements that it can do but I’m reality they aren’t practical. I’m not trying to sell you anything so I just call it how I see it. Hope that makes sense. Cheers🤙🏼

[@Thepokechoprx]

No I get it that’s totally what it is designed for. Always wondered what a neutral grip barbell rows would feel like.

[@MacStrengthCo]

probably pretty good actually. Just the awkward size of the cambered bar would be bit much. There's some really good handles to mimic that neutral hand location.

[@scottwalburn6193]

I've almost ordered the Elite FTS bar on several occasions but I just haven't pulled the trigger. The Kabuki is always calling me and now the Rep looks outstanding.

[@MacStrengthCo]

I wish the kabuki had a narrow grip option but between those 3 your not going to get a bad bar. Reps just ticked all the boxes for me.

[@scottwalburn6193]

I pulled the trigger on the Elite FTS bar which is on sale currently. Thanks for the reviews. That was an outstanding set of videos.

[@burtbakerack1110]

Preordered the Rep today to replace my BOS arch nemesis. Looking forward to it.

[@MacStrengthCo]

That’s a great bar! Enjoy!

[@majorgear1021]

you get the benefits of camber on one position though, at least Titan gives you that on 2 positions.

[@jessedubon5176]

Interesting that you said the Rep handle positions were spot on for you and that the widest grip on the Elite caused discomfort, but then give the nod to Elitefts 🤔. Elitefts offers two versioms of their cambered bar, angled and neutral. Like you stated, a more neutral position is more comfortable the further out you go. If that widest handle creates stress, then youd have to get a second bar to have the same benefit as the Rep, putting the combined cost in the Kabuki realm. That was the very reason that I never pulled the trigger on either of the Elitefts cambered bars, even though I’m actually a fan of Elite. Plus it’s free shipping right now, but normally its almost 100 more that Rep with shipping included. Really wanted a Kadillac bar, but couldnt swallow the cost. When I saw that Rep solved my perceived issue of the American Cambered Bars, it was a no brainer for me. The Rep feels perfect to me; cant imagine wanting more of an angle on those last handles.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Great comment and I think I mention in the video I would leave my outer grip issue out of my final opinion as it may just be my shoulder mobility and not an issue for most. I pick the REP bar overall but with Elite FTS offering "free shipping" on that cambered bar I couldn't help but consider it for people that don't have the tighter rep racks. As it's an awesome bar too. Thanks for the feedback and support. Cheers, Rylan

[@jdjames997]

You won a subscriber because I appreciate your honesty in this video, and I like your sponsored by REP but didn’t pick them as the “big winner. I know this video is a little older, but being the Elite FTS bar is now $315 and the REP bar is $289, do you think there is a quality difference between them? I like the square tubing on the FTS, and understand the rack issues. I don’t care about the knurling, do you think one is better made overall? The REP looks like a great bar, the the actual round tubes used to make it look cheap, that’s just my opinion. If you had to buy one today, if price didn’t matter, which one would you choose, Elite or REP? Thanks, great videos

[@MacStrengthCo]

Having used the REP bar for longer now and I even own new ROGUE MG-4 which I have a review/comparison coming next weekend. Quite honestly the REP bar is my recommendation. The Elite FTS bar has better handle variations but the REP bar has nicer chrome sleeves and the handle placement is perfect in my opinion. The round tubing is really nice in hand and gives the bar a nice balanced feel because it puts the majority of the weight into the sleeves instead of the frame. Hope this helps! cheers brotha!

[@billchurch4460]

Great reviews and very helpful. Any plans to review Rogue's new cambered and multi-grip bars whenever they are released?

[@MacStrengthCo]

Good question. If there’s enough interest I would. 👍🏻. The REP bar is awesome for under $300.

[@billchurch4460]

@@MacStrengthCo Looks like Rogue's new bars are now up on their site. I've been looking for a legit reason to take out a 2nd mortgage.

[@MacStrengthCo]

@@billchurch4460 you weren’t kidding! Ya no thanks. I built this gym on a middle class budget. Can’t change now!😂

[@tamoko9430]

You need to try British Watson Gym Body Development Bar this is absolutely unique design camber bar. Amazing quality, with unique flexible handles position. Even with different grips attachments.

[@MacStrengthCo]

I'm in the USA unfortunately.

[@lucas1975]

Thanks for the video, I'm trying to build my own bar with custom measurements and your comparison with exact handles distance, angle and so on was extremely helpful for me! I saw the two parts till the end! Thanks! Has someone told you look like the "small" fit brother of Jerry Pritchett? 💪🏻😅

[@MacStrengthCo]

Hey Lucas, I'm glad it helped. Never been called Small before so I'll take it! I'll look him up. I get a few funny comparisons! Thanks for the comment. cheers:)

[@lucas1975]

@@MacStrengthCo "Small" compared to Jerry...it's a huge (and fat) strongman, you're way fitter 😅 I can't afford to buy one of the bars, I'm from Italy, they don't ship there and if they do shipping costs and taxes are extremely high! But if I have to pick one I'll chose arch nemesis or rep fitness, the two I liked much from your comparison! (And fit in my homemade wooden rack) sorry for my bad English! 😅

[@MacStrengthCo]

@@lucas1975 Absolutely my friend he's huge! I get it on the costs situation It's easier for you guys to build your down. I think there's a company in Europe "savage" or something making cambered bars too. appreciate the follow and check us out on IG. @macstrengthco. cheers

[@lucas1975]

@@MacStrengthCo Since I'm training for a long time I appreciate quality videos and extremely technical People that explains things well, I'll follow you for sure! And thanks again, I'll check this company!

[@jerseyjim9092]

I have equipment from various companies including the Elite SSB which has allowed me to squat with my old man lack of shoulder mobility. I ended up going with the REP cambered bar. REP was free shipping and uses standard collars and easily fits on the REP rack. I kind of wish they made a straight bar as I'm not sure I'll have much use for the camber or if I'll like the unbalanced aspect. But we'll see. My main purpose for getting it is to increase my bench by strengthening my triceps while also sparing my shoulders.

[@MacStrengthCo]

It’s a great bar. I use it more than any other specialty bar

[@jerseyjim9092]

@@MacStrengthCo thanks, I'm looking forward to trying it out.

[@LukesGarageGym]

Part 2, lets goooooo!

[@MacStrengthCo]

It's another long one!!! lol Took all day to upload.. cheers bro

[@LukesGarageGym]

@@MacStrengthCo man slow internet bro, I feel you! Watching it all the way through. Got you! Can’t wait to hear more!

[@chrisdonnell2575]

Great review! Is the main reason people buy these kinds of bars is to go deeper in bench like a dumbbells but added stability plus not having to kick up heavy dumbbells? I have the Rep Open Trap bar and love it but not sure I need this. I was considering using it for bench and triceps extensions since the narrow grip looks so nice. How do you and others use these bars and did you notice any improved chest/triceps development using it?

[@MacStrengthCo]

honestly once I got my shoulders fixed I pretty much just use straight bars now but that's just me. I would be in the gym for 3 hrs a day if I used all the equipment I have. lol

[@chrisdonnell2575]

Yeah your gym rocks! Hilarious! Love your videos watch many that don't even apply to me, thank you.@@MacStrengthCo

[@stallen]

Thanks for the review! I am torn between the Rep bar and the Kadillac bar. If reducing pain after shoulder surgery and preventing further injury is the primary concern (take price completely out of the equation), which bar would be the best? Also consider, after surgery on both shoulders and getting old, I’ll probably never bench over 275lbs.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Well the kaddilac bar is large and the most cumbersome to use, think of it as a bar built for serious athletes and foot ball players. It's worth every penny and well built but when I want to train and get the job done I grab my REP bar more often. I have found these bars don't fix shoulders. I had to do that with bands and rehab techniques. Now Im back flat bar benching pain free even after a tear last year. The cambered bars offer a great alternative accessory to your training which is great to have. One more thing to note, the widest handle on the Kabuki are next to unusable for most people with any real weight on them. Just too wide. REP's I can put 225 and use any handle pain free. Kabukis also doesn't have close grip which (my opinion) is crucial reason for having one of these bars. IF you have endless money Rogue's is the only bar with adjustable handles to suit your body mechanics if you have money to spare. Hope that helps. cheers!

[@CryptoTerp]

Appreciate the review, sir! A thought though: the feedback (on the REP bar) of the eye loop for the lat pulldown is a bit misleading, sir... if you will never use it - that's fine - but to say that you wouldn't use that feature "because the bar is 70+ long..." is misleading to your audience - as the sleeves can (and should) be removed, if you're going to it for lat pulldown. With sleeves removed, you have a much smaller width/footprint, and it's more than usable for lat pulldowns. thanks for listening

[@MacStrengthCo]

I love the feedback and appreciate your comment. No argument from me the sleeves off would be much more manageable but here's my thoughts. 1. The engineers from REP intended the bar to be used with the sleeves attached. I would be foolish to recommend my followers do something unsafe. I know the hardware wasn't intended for repeated torquing and would take an educated guess the nuts would fail at some point. 2. In the time to mess around with those bolts and sleeves I could've done my entire pulldown workout. I know when stuff is overly complicated it doesn't happen. Let's face it saving time is the one of the reasons we build home gyms 3. Pulldown attachments are very cheap and abundant to find without breaking the bank. My BOS bar has a similar eyebolt and I have yet to use it ever! My experience and opinion might differ from others which is completely fine! Thank you thank you for the response and discussion. Fantastic point!

[@CryptoTerp]

@@MacStrengthCo Fair enough, kind sir - your points are well articulated & thought out. Can't /won't argue 😊 That said, I think it it's super cool of you to take the time to be so through (and professional /kind) in your reply as well. Its refreshing, if not surprising 🙂 You have my sub 👍

[@stephenang499]

The Kabuki bar has protruding bolts for the sleeves, it is going to chew up your J cups when racking at near failure.

[@MacStrengthCo]

yup.. not the best design.

[@sstevens117]

Great video! I'm a 40 yo home gym owner and have recently began having shoulder pain in my left shoulder when benching, so decided it was time to get a multi grip bar. Your comparison video helped a ton, and I've narrowed it down to the Rep and the Elite FTS options. I own a Rouge rack, FWIW. My question is this: which bar's grips widths do you prefer? l have a fairly wide shoulder base (18.5 inch biacromial width), and you appear to have a pretty wide shoulder base as well. Which set of grips do you use for standard bench work, and how do they compare? Do you find either of the inner grips too close for comfortable close grip bench? I'm almost thinking they'll be better suited for skull crushers, etc, for me. The 15 inch 2nd set of grips on Elite FTS may be better suited for close grip work for me. Thanks for your time and for the video. new subscriber here!

[@MacStrengthCo]

Thanks for the reply. First check out my new video on the ROGUE bar if you get bored as I put it against the REP bar just came out today. I have destroyed shoulders and struggle with pain and mobility also. I've found the REP bar feels best all around where I can use all the handles on it. The Elite fts bar and Kabuki the outer handles are too wide to use safely. I liked the Elite Fts mid grip handles but having used the REP bar for months now it's my go to. Elite's sleeves are lackluster and the lack of knurling has me using the REP bar. Will these bars cure our shoulder pain. Not really honestly. It helps but the best thing I've found is just taking a long break from regular bench press and using dumbbells along with a good stretching program. Also look into the Kabuki shoulder rok. That has helped me a ton with my shoulders. I have a review on it. let me know if you have anymore questions and train hard! cheers, Rylan

[@peeweesermon2231]

Thanks for the review! Did any particular bar feel better/worse for your shoulder?

[@MacStrengthCo]

The wider handles on the kabuki felt slight pain/ pressure on the shoulders. I mention in the review the really wide handles are just not something I would use but depends on your shoulder mobility/ size strength etc. many variables so don’t just go off my feedback. Worth trying first if you can.

[@AnonymousGameWarden]

Thank you so much for this comparison! I know you said it was tight to rack on the rep rack. Was it doable though? I ordered my kabuki two weeks ago, but I have a pr5000 and I'm concerned it won't fit.

[@MacStrengthCo]

It will work just have to be extra careful. I show the actual total clearance in part 1.

[@gymreviewer]

Your quiver is impressive

[@Johnrap]

I bought the EliteFTS American Grip Cambered Bar. Guess I lucked out. Because I didn't test it, or any of the others, in advance.

[@MacStrengthCo]

I really liked that bar especially when it was on sale. The extra set of grips to me was a big bonus. I personally use the REP bar and it's similar but nicer sleeves.

[@Ricky-drip-go-woo]

I wonder foe the cambered bars since the bar is cambered if for curls and skull crushers if it would feel weird and unbalanced since the plates are "lower" then the center handles? Would love to get people comments on this

[@MacStrengthCo]

Good question. I tend to use my curl bar for skull crushers because it's just smaller in size and easier to handle laying down.

[@sqd8r]

Knurling... a replacement for grip strength.

[@MacStrengthCo]

The top bars don’t have knurling. I found it unnecessary but nice to have. Rogues 28mm handles are too skinny for cambered work.

[@rayb2410]

Surprised you compared the Titan multi grip bar to those other Cambered bars instead of the Titan Cambered bar. Big difference in my opinion.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Great point but I've had more issues with Titan lately and am hesitant to buy anything from them after years of problems.

[@rayb2410]

@@MacStrengthCo I don't blame you. I only one the Camber bar and SSB bar myself. My biggest factor was price point on those 2 items. And they get the job done, but I've been hesitant to buy anything else. That's why I appreciate your take on the bars. Thanks.

[@milovantelefon6853]

Hi, How do you make measurement with angled handles? a) shortest air distance between handles b) longest air distance between handles c) air distance between middle points of handles I think that answer would be useful for review. Thank you :)

[@MacStrengthCo]

The industry standard on all bars is the middle of the handles. Figured that was common sense.🤷🏼‍♂️

[@milovantelefon6853]

@@MacStrengthCo Thank you for replying. By the way, great and detailed review. Have a nice day :)

[@oneeyeman6118]

For me, I have wrist joint injury history rather than shoulder. Do these cambered bars and/or angled grip add to the stress on wrists during presses or lessen compared to a barbell or flat swiss bar?

[@MacStrengthCo]

Good question. To each their own but I found it less stress on my wrists because of the wider diameter grips on the REP bar for example. The 90* felt best on wrists vs angled. Hope that helps.

[@JohnKessler]

have you seen/used the new Rogue camber bar with extra handles that you can adjust and buy extra of?

[@MacStrengthCo]

The Rogue bar has some downsides for me to show interest. It’s very expensive for an accessory bar. The handles are very skinny, the bar itself is too wide to properly rack in a REP rack and I prefer the 5” shorter handles for stability.

[@JohnKessler]

@@MacStrengthCo soon after posting i found your instagram (liked and subscribed) and the chart you included with it added. thanks for the great info. i have been looking for a camber bar so your info really helped. i will probable start with the titan camber (not flat) as its price and quality fits very well with my home gym setup, i do like the idea behind the rogue how you can have and move the handles.

[@Sboarder-ul6cr]

how did you measure the handle spacing? Middle of the handle, nearest end, or furthest end?

[@MacStrengthCo]

They are all measured from middle of the handle.

[@futbol1972]

I have elbow tendinitis and shoulder pain so looking at one of this bars for home gym just don't know whichone to buy, camber or no camber? I will be using it with my roze 3.1 rack. This are the meassurments. Inner Cage (in)52" x 42.5" x 88.5" Outer Cage (in)56.5" x 53.5", 88.5" Been looking at titan or rep one too

[@MacStrengthCo]

The REP bar is my recommendation and the bar I use weekly!

[@futbol1972]

@@MacStrengthCo is the rep one hard on yoir wrist?

[@MacStrengthCo]

@@futbol1972 What I found is the skinnier the handles the harder on your wrist. 32mm handles or larger are the best for wrist comfort. Avoid anything 28mm completely.

[@General505]

Is there enough clearance to perform chest supported rows on the ab5200 with the elitefts? I’ve been using my power bar but it hits the bench

[@MacStrengthCo]

It wouldn’t be ideal. Your better off with a bench pad across your rack spotter arms for more clearance. I use dumbbells mostly for supported rows.

[@brianholland5447]

Have you tried using either the Rep bar or the Elite FTS bar for OH pressing? If so, what were your thoughts on it?

[@MacStrengthCo]

doesn't work. hits your chin. best stick to regular barbell for OH press.

[@CVNTGETENOUGH]

If I have no upper chest, would you recommend I only do incline bench or would you suggest I do flat barbell press and incline dumbell press?

[@MacStrengthCo]

I would check out AthleanX and Jeff Nippard on YT for the best routines but I think you have the right idea for sure.

[@CVNTGETENOUGH]

@@MacStrengthCo okay kool, I appreciate the quick response

[@lucas1975]

Hey Mac, I want ask you something...is the distance between angled handles measured on the "short" or long distance angle? (I mean top or bottom since distance is different or its on the mid of handle?)

[@MacStrengthCo]

Mid handle

[@lucas1975]

@@MacStrengthCo Thanks a lot

[@acastillo0319]

any reviews on shelves/storage like Rogue MONSTER SINGLE POST STORAGE SHELF, MONSTER RACK STORAGE PANEL, REP MSS Storage??? =D

[@MacStrengthCo]

I looked at all the storage options and found the "Again Faster" rack was cheaper by $500 or more and comparable in quality and features. I ended up buying it and could't be happier. I have a review on it.

[@acastillo0319]

@@MacStrengthCo thanks ill check it out 😃

[@MacStrengthCo]

It's compatible with the MSS system. I paid around $430 shipped for it. I remember everything was over $1000 for roughly the same amount of storage. Ill look for that review it was awile back so prices might have changed. cheers!

[@MacStrengthCo]

www.againfaster.com/products/3-tier-mass-storage-unit

[@MacStrengthCo]

I just looked at the price on it is now $969! It's nearly doubled since I bought mine. Inflation is real! ha ha

[@RicheZamor]

Why didn’t you evaluate the Titan cambered swiss bar?

[@MacStrengthCo]

Honestly I’m over dealing with Titan and their customer service. The main reason for using that flat bar was to showcase the depth difference. Titan's cambered bars are similar in dimensions which was the problem with the flat bar so they would rate similar in feel.

[@RicheZamor]

@@MacStrengthCo That’s unfortunately. An apples to apples comparison would have been valuable.

[@robd2998]

What about the Titan cambered bar?

[@MacStrengthCo]

Fair question. Just didn't want to buy one honestly it's not something that appeals to me after seeing the quality of the flat version. For $80 more you can buy the REP bar which is a much nicer bar. My followers wanted to see the difference between a flat bar and cambered for the actual depth so that's why I added it in.

[@robd2998]

@@MacStrengthCo Fair enough :)

[@Useruytrw]

👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

[@mediumspeedsomedrag9885]

Go with Elite FTS made in the USA 🇺🇸😎🤙🏼

[@MacStrengthCo]

My man!!🇺🇸💪🏼

[@HeCoversMe]

The Kabuki looks like it would really hurt if you hit your chest too hard being how thin the steel frame is where it makes contact with your body. Kabuki Overrated & Overpriced….I would pick the Rep because of the wide straight grip option. No reason for angles out that wide.

[@MacStrengthCo]

The thin frame has been a big complaint about the Kabuki. For me it was more the lack of narrow handles and the widest handles are too wide. Paying that much for a 2 handle cambered bar is a hard pill to swallow. Plus it's wide and not as balanced.

[@nickmotta8246]

Elite >

[@MacStrengthCo]

Thanks for watching. Bummer Elite raised prices. I would give the REP bar the best deal now.

[@Thunder029]

REP beats Elite FTS because you don't have to change your math when you use a 45 lbs bar.

[@MacStrengthCo]

Well there's always that! Great point which is often overlooked. I only recommend the REP bar now after using it for some time it''s just too good for the price.

[@Thunder029]

@@MacStrengthCo I've seen a few reviews on it now and that seems to be the consensus. REP has always been pretty good, but they're really killing it with their latest stuff.

[@MacStrengthCo]

@@Thunder029 absolutely!