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[@TheOctobersReact]

Hey 👋 so the first part had a million copyright issues AFTER I released it and I had to mess up the movie. I didn’t want it to happen this time so I took my time. I always try to leave on as much of the movie as legally possible. Thanks for the patience! ❤

[@alexflorea4879]

No worries personally when I like the outcome I tend to be very patient 👍 If you like Hugo Weaving you should definitely react to V from Vendetta ❤

[@neighborlyfiend1484]

All good, can never be too sure when it comes to those cw

[@lcbonastre2418]

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[@jayrenteria605]

The spider lives in mordor, there in the misty mountains. But to be fair there are other things living Deep Down in those mountains...Here's a hint...The goblins didn't make those tunnels, they Simply Widened them.

[@hennovandamme1093]

the dwarf with the white hair is the dude in the tomb in lotr just before they get atacked when they are reading the book and the red head dwarf (the smal readhead dwarf the goofy looking one ) is the one pipin send in the well (the dead skeleton)

[@kimmelton3697]

You have to remember this was based on a children's book were the Lord of the rings was more adult. So your gripes about it feeling goofy is valid. And there is a lot of fan service that was put in just for the people who loved tlotr movies so much. Just enjoy the ride. It is pretty fun.

[@Viraxii]

Also the book came before the LOTR books, he wrote it for his kids.

[@TellerScenes]

Absolutely right. I second this opinion.

[@matthewkirkhart2401]

I agree. Another thing that I think is sometimes missed about The Hobbit is this book is Bilbo literally telling the reader his adventure, just like he was doing at the beginning of the LotR at his birthday party with the hobbit children. So everything in this story is presented through the lens of Bilbo Baggins and what he thinks and how he thinks that Middle Earth "works" etc. A great example of this is that we know that trolls are not concerned with the proper way to cook anything, nor do they talk ... but Hobbits are concerned about cooking and food and they of course talk. This is Bilbo projecting his own ideas and ideals onto the trolls in his story ... sort of like the fish story that every time it is told the fish that is caught gets bigger and bigger. This is one of the things that makes it such a good children's book as it is more fairy tale than historical account. Looking at these Hobbit movies, and the book too for that matter IMHO, as an example of a historical account of these events, much like LotR is, is sort of missing the best part of The Hobbit.

[@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy]

Indeed, it's important to remember that Tolkien wrote _The Hobbit_ first and only ended up writing LOTR because his publishers wanted another Hobbit-centric story rather than what he'd already had written for _The Silmarillion_ at the time... even if it took him another 15 years to complete. This is why I implore people to watch the "Hobbit" movies before the LOTR movies at this point in time. The former story is just not as dense, epic, or complex as the latter.

[@emaleighmoon]

I know this trilogy gets crapped on sometimes but I love them! It's a fun adventure and gives me another reason to spend time in Middle Earth. Plus, the casting of Martin Freeman as Bilbo, is perfect ♥

[@TellerScenes]

He's such a good Bilbo!

[@matthewblaszkiewicz9063]

I second this. Competing to the LOTR movie trilogy is so difficult. These were good movies and escaping real life for Middle-Earth is a treat.

[@emaleighmoon]

@@matthewblaszkiewicz9063 Lol I feel the same. I'll take Middle Earth over reall life, any day. I guess I was just never disappointed in The Hobbit movies because I saw them as separate and not an extension to LoTR because....well...it's not LoTR. It's the Hobbit and the movies are as different from each other as the books were.

[@matthewblaszkiewicz9063]

@@emaleighmoon true. I also think they did a good job keeping it true to the book.

[@warriorpitbull1170]

'Necromancer' is a word that basically means: one who can raise the dead.

[@danielleyoung3133]

And control the dead

[@skittlestaste246]

Its my perception that Frodo wrote the LOTR story and the way its told reflects his personality. Bilbo wrote The Hobbit and it reflects his. To me Bilbo always had flare when telling his stories so the movies are funny and exaggerated to reflect that. I hope I'm explaining this to be understood.

[@JarodMoonchild1975]

If the truth can be told, so as to be understood, it will be believed. Human history represents such a radical break with the natural systems of biological organization, that precede to it, that it must be the response to a kind of attractor, or dwell point, that lies ahead in the temporal dimension. - Terrence McKenna. In other words, you are understood.

[@matheushenriquemartins5511]

Remember when Gandalf told Frodo that the true wiseness is to know when to spare a life instead of take it? That even the small creature could change history? This is what he was talking about. Bilbo sparing Smeagol's life.

[@Wirmish]

The Hobbit is a book written for kids. The Lord of the Rings is a book written for adults. Same for the movies.

[@jonathanimler9745]

Sauron wasn’t back at his full strength so Bilbo wouldn’t see the Eye just yet. Gollum would use the ring to become invisible to sneak up on his prey. After he lost he intended to slip on the ring to overtake Bilbo… that is when he realized he lost it!

[@tubehab]

A dozen eagles against Smaug? I would call that dinner. You'll meet Smaug soon and 12 eagles is not enough, believe me.

[@unknowncomic4107]

The Dwarf with the white hair is Balin. He is the cousin Gimli is referring to in The Lord of the Rings. The one that had taken back Moria and was killed there.

[@cmillerr]

Of course its in middle earth! The movie started in The Shire!

[@lynjones2461]

That's what I was thinking where else would it be ha ha xx

[@karlschmitt6359]

When Bilbo and Gollem were playing games there is a chapter in The Hobbit called Riddles In The Dark. Great scene!

[@tileux]

And the next chapter is called "Out of the frying pan, into the fire".

[@karlschmitt6359]

@tileux since these people have not read the books that is helpful information (since you're being sarcastic with me, right back atcha) if they ever read the Hobbit they'll know why I said that. That information was for them not you so they could tell where that scene happened in the book. This may have been stating the obvious to you and possibly most people who've read the Hobbit, but I was only trying to be helpful to them. People can be jerks and I guess you're one!

[@dennisswainston411]

Sam wasn't even born yet... the Hobbit takes place 60 years before "Fellowship".

[@reggieedmond9770]

It's always great to see you two together y'all relationship makes me smile but when Mrs.october clicked the 10 sec back button and mr.october repeated his line that had me dying.😂😂 Love yall

[@TheOctobersReact]

he does this more than ya'll knowwwwwww!!!

[@reggieedmond9770]

@@TheOctobersReact I know this off topic but don't change anything I noticed y'all get a lot of comments about the talking and jokes........but if y'all said nothing then ppl would complain about that so oh well can't make everyone happy and some ppl just wanna complain.

[@dawest767]

@@reggieedmond9770 Yeah, why would anyone watch a reaction where someone just sits quietly?

[@davida.j.berner776]

CGI: You're not alone in feeling there was too much CGI. Apparently poor Ian McKellen was reduced to tears during filming, because of the need to be constantly acting alone against green screen. He's said he even questioned whether his days as an actor were over, if this is what acting was going to be like, going forward.

[@TellerScenes]

Great reaction! I came around to really liking The Hobbit films. I think they are worth it.

[@marieclaudeb.2366]

This did happen in Middle earth.. Gandalf was hoping the quest would succeed, Erebor being brought back would be a great strategic ally if the rumours of the return of Sauron, down south of Mirkwood, are true ❤ great stuff, happy to continue on! 🎉

[@karlschmitt6359]

This is set in Middle Earth, but this is about Bilbo not Frodo, so these movies are all leading up to Lord Of The Rings.

[@kurauza]

No shit -.-

[@karlschmitt6359]

@kurauza this response wasn't for you, they kept saying it wasn't in Middle Earth. I guess you didn't listen to what they said! Moron!

[@jamedraa8472]

@@kurauzaThey kept saying "this didn't happen in Middle Earth" so apparently they missed it.

[@karlschmitt6359]

@kurauza what I said wasn't for you! They kept saying it wasn't Middle Earth so helped them out.

[@karlschmitt6359]

@@kurauza it's obvious to you, but apparently not to them, you might want to listen next time!

[@HunterAndre_21]

I know this trilogy isn’t as good as The LOTR trilogy but to me I love the Hobbit Trilogy sure it’s not perfect but they’re still good watches and the scene where Bilbo told Thorin that he came back to help him take his home back is such a heartwarming scene

[@LunaticKD1991]

I like both the Hobbit book/movies and the Lord Of The Rings books/movies.

[@Xlcola]

I really hope you watch the extended editions for the last two. They are soooo much better!

[@enigmamz]

I don't know if anyone mentioned it yet, but the waterfall at 14:54 is the one from the little stream Gollum is chasing fish in in Two Towers.

[@mr_yoru5834]

When these movies came out, 3D was trendy, and Peter Jackson wanted to film the movies in 3D, but 3D cameras made it more difficult for them to use the more practical effects of the LotR trilogy and they also couldn't use old camera tricks like forced perspective to make some of the actors look smaller than others. The result is they did have to rely a lot more on CGI and green screen. The Hobbit is also a more lighthearted story than LotR. It's meant to be more like a fairy tale while LotR was more of an epic fantasy.

[@SylviusTheMad]

Tolkien was a professor of languages at Oxford. He was even one of the editors of the original Oxford English Dictionary. His love for languages explains both how he managed to invent all the languages spoken in these books, but also why he included a game of riddles.

[@BomblingTV]

Thanks for putting this out! Hobbit is hard to not compare to Lord of the Rings, but I try to keep this for an extra chance to enjoy this universe while also acknowledge Hobbit is based on a children's book.

[@dropbarracuda]

Lol in the summary y'all fighting comments in the future 🤣. Your channel didn't grow like it has with a strong fanbase b/c people want to see what yall think we want to see. We're here for Y'ALL, and being real is the only thing that's harder to do the more you try to do it. If you catch a stray in the comments, just know their interaction helped your channel, and keep an eye on your SocialBlade... if the numbers are up, then WAY more people mess with y'all than those that don't. P S.: The Hobbit *WAS* weird, dont let anyone convince you otherwise. When it came out, we had to wait years and years, dealing with them possibly using another director, all sorts of stuff, so when it finally dropped, we all had the same high expectations, except we'd built it up over many years. 😝

[@kevinpakkala3721]

The problem with this movie was that it was made as a Prequel to LOTR. However, the book was written first and was meant to be a stand alone story. But the Tolkien decided to to make that ring "The Ring of Power" and created the LOTR. The book is actually a whole lot simpler but the studio took Tolkien's other writings and added them into this movie to make it a trilogy when in reality, I should have only been 1 movie. It's still a lot of fun and it's great to be back in Middle Earth, however it's kind of a messy at times. I still love watching it. When you're done with this, go seek out the animated Hobbit movie made in the late 70's lots of fun, simple and to the point. However if you want a laugh, go check out the animated LOTR made shortly after and you'll see what I grew up with until that Masterpiece made by Peter Jackson came out.

[@SLAPERZZ1]

The Gollum scene in this is the best🤣

[@jamesgibson8088]

As time goes by i sometimes enjoy watching these films more than LOTR, more light hearted and easy viewing but still in the same world we all love. The hobbit is set more in north/east of middle earth, where as LOTR was set in the west

[@MsAaannaaa]

don't you guys worry. I'm a die hard book fan, love the LOTR movies & didn't enjoy the Hobbit movies at all the first time around. :D It took me years to warm up to them & love them for what they are.

[@florrie2303]

The guy with the white hair is Balin. You saw his tomb in Fellowship of the Ring. Also in the company is Gloin who is Gimli’s father.

[@georgioskontakis5722]

Guys you need to watch the extended version you are missing a lot of stuff that connect!! thumbs up for them to see

[@s_m_SL4Y3R]

Loved the ending for darla, so real and raw. Her sharing a soul with her child and feeling real true, as well as connecting and understanding Angel’s journey with a soul was so well acted by Julie. Watched these as they were airing, but this story arc of darla’s pregnancy hit different now that I’ve had a child. Makes me cry every time when darla professes her love for her boy and she says her final goodbye

[@avader5]

Looking forward to your reaction to The Desolation Of Smaug!

[@sandrabeaumont9161]

The Hobbit is very different from Lord Of The Rings. The Hobbit was written for children as an adventure type story. Hence it's corny and quirky style. LOTR was written some years later more for adults as a metaphor of WW2. Tolkien was part of a writers circle that also included C. S. Lewis of The Chronicles Of Narnia fame. Which have also been put to film.

[@aleatharhea]

You gotta understand that The Hobbit was written for children. (In fact, I learned to read by following along when my mom read The Hobbit to me and my sister.) Anyway, The Hobbit is a lot more action-packed and not as heavy. The book IS more light-hearted, with the trolls, etc. And then later, J.R.R. Tolkien expanded that world and wrote The Lord of the Rings for adults. (He actually went back and updated The Hobbit to make it fit better into the Middle Earth of the LotR.) Also there's a lot of singing and poetry in all the books, so it's not weird for a fan of the book that the goblin king sings. Peter Jackson didn’t originally intend to make The Hobbit. The LotR was the story he wanted to tell. The heavy one.

[@dudeusmaximus6793]

So the air bnb at Rivendell - I know a guy that knows a guy... 😎 Sauron hasn't established himself at the tower of Baradur in Morder yet, so basically he has no all seeing eye. In fact he's not able to reveal himself yet so his mind can't reach out and find the ring from where he's at.

[@anthonywilson7681]

This was originally a childrens book. and Peter Jackson stretched it and added some to make it three movies. and check the end credits song for Part 2, by Ed Sheeran. I was always a fan of the one book "The Hobbit" LOTR came after.

[@jtrem08]

I read the Hobbit after LOTR fellowship movie came out. I was super excited to see this in theatre and loved it. The battles, the sillyness, and the character development. I also loved all the additional lore they put in all 3 movies whether it was in the hobbit book or other. Side note- the riddle battle is in the hobbit book, and I loved the execution of it in this movie!

[@steviegarza1166]

Balin the white haired dwarf is in Lotr but it was his tomb in Moria …..the tomb in the room that pip knocked over the armor in the well

[@sandrabeaumont9161]

The Hobbit and LOTR has a 50 to 60 year gap. Elrond is something like 3000 years old. In LOTR Aragorn is 87 years old. as he is Duadain. A race of long lived humans but not as long as Elves or Dwarves. You should read both books plus The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales.

[@lcbonastre2418]

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[@karenhall4645]

36:14 - this is the moment Gandalf was telling Frodo about when he said pity for Gollum kept Bilbo from killing him.

[@ChristopherLongbeard]

the tone of book is much more directed towards children, so it does come across kinda goofy. It is just less dark and looming than LOTR.

[@kellielynne253]

I agree that it's hard to not compare it to LoTR because it's in the same world and shows some of the same characters but Peter Jackson had 3-4 years pre production time to prepare everything for LoTR and had only 4 months to get everything needed for The Hobbit. He said in an interview that he'd have cast take extended lunch breaks so him and his wife could write the script to be done in the next scene. He wasn't even given enough time to put a screenplay together before starting. Even with all the studio pressure/interference, I think they turned out great for what they are. A light hearted adventure. I still marathon both trilogies and with LoTR, it's a day of crying through half the movies and with the Hobbit, it's popcorn and entertainment. I hope you guys like the last two more :)

[@daviddenton4951]

It was my understanding that The Hobbit was a children's book. There was a long time in between LOTR and Hobbit movies, so I missed the world and loved The Hobbit (Movie). Watching these movies back to back may make it underwhelming I guess. The movies get better from here though just fyi.

[@winterpromise2523]

What I'll say will make most people upset buy its just my opinion and i love Bilbo more than Frodo and obviously its not an comparison but i feel like Frodo is too good to be true . He is a hero and goes on a quest that might end his life without any second thought and keeps on going for it which feels less human like but more god like to me . But Bilbo , he was scared, confused, even left the dwarves and has flaws but still conquered them , he had been wrong at time but he had the courage and humanity to do whatever he did for the dwarves. I love Bilbo a lot and i relate to him more . That's why he is my favourite Hobbit.

[@Renzago]

Yes sir! Part 2 let's ride!!!!!!

[@ruud9761]

Just a couple of things: 1. This story does take place in middle earth, though 60 years (I think) before the lotr. Erebor is also a while away from Mordor so they will be traveling different parts of middle earth. 2. These aren't normal wargs, at the end of part one they were, excuse my spelling, Gundabad wargs which apparently are faster and possible just all around stronger and bigger than other wargs. 3. Generally in fantasy dragons covert gold. For the reason why, there have been many answers, though perhaps the best one is that Tolkien likes Folklore a lot and dragons in Folklore often hoard treasure which in turn attract daring knights to come and fight them. Though my personal favorite is that gold, to a dragon, is what a good bed is to humans. 4. Animals (which wargs still are, I think) generally do not at all like fire. So the wargs running away from the fire does seem on point. Then again considering these are meant to be superior wargs, maybe not so much. 5. A necromancer is someone who can raise the dead, it's a term used rather often in fantasy stories. 6. A lot of fan service has been put into this movie. Probably since they (probably the studio) wanted to milk it out. 7. Like many people said "the hobbit" was based on a children's story Tolkien told his kids. So yes, it's a bit more goofy. And don't worry about not liking the movie. Many people don't, it's not lotr. I also was a bit disappointed when I watched it the first time. It also doesn't help that there are so many dwarves and, really, there are only two dwarves in the movie I really like, Balin (old grey beard) and Bofur (the one who was on watch when Bilbo tried going home). Unlike lotr I don't really care for half of the group they travel with. For me the best way to watch the movie is to not expect an epic quest for the survival of middle earth, but a fun adventure with Bilbo going to reclaim Erebor. These days I do rather like the movies. I hope you'll like the second and third movie better, but if not, no worries.

[@neighborlyfiend1484]

Dragons love gold. One reason is that dragon eggs require molten gold to hatch. Not lore in this series I think but in much fantasy relms this is the case.

[@paulkondon]

Yeah, there were a lot of people who never read the books who loved the Lord of the Rings movies, and wanted more of that world. Of course, while it does mean Gandalf and Bilbo and Elrond and Galadriel, as well as Saruman and Frodo, it also means Arwen and Aragorn and Legolas and Gimli. There were no actual sequel novels, but LotR was itself a sequel to The Hobbit. (The Silmarillion is a Homer-esque construction of the mythological history of Middle Earth.) Peter Jackson wanted to go back and give Bilbo his due and tell some more history, but didn't want to direct. He gave it to Guillermo del Toro to direct, who then left in the middle to direct Pacific Rim. Jackson stepped back in, and decided to add more characters than were ever in The Hobbit, and also to let the LotR fans see the foreshadowing that was never in The Hobbit, but added later to explain Hobbit events. The original was going to be either one long movie, or two shorter ones. Jackson went a little too far, and there are scenes which do seem a bit dragged out to make it a trilogy like LotR. Unfortunately, it couldn't measure up to LotR, but gave him three movies to fill with extra lore. I always felt that gave Gandalf (Ian McKellen) more to do, because all the scenes where he is off doing other things weren't in the book at all. He was just gone and Bilbo and the dwarves were left to themselves. You'll see more of that in the next two. If you leave out the scenes where Gandalf disappears, you get about what was in the book. Funny though, some of the parts you seemed to dislike the most are actually important parts of the book, especially the goings on in the Goblin caves, both with the dwarves and with Bilbo. The riddles scene is actually to demonstrate that Bilbo is not a fighter, wants to harm no one, and knowing nothing of who Gollum is nor the true nature of the ring, it's just an interesting diversion and test of his own wits and skill to get out alive completely alone. As you mentioned, the story is The Hobbit, not Gandalf and the Hobbit. And, as many people have mentioned elsewhere, it's a children's story with a moral for the idea that the little people have an important contribution, and their struggles are every bit as important as big wizards and heroes. p.s. the third movie, The Battle of Five Armies, was handled in a single chapter in the book. Azog was mentioned in passing as present when Thror died, but did not appear after that. Those are examples of how much extra was added. I think a better approach might have been do one movie, then a bunch of extras for a director's cut, with the "side quests". Then there would be no need to deliberately fill out two more movies with material. What was left out was all the songs, which told a lot of the story, especially the dwarves' song of the Lonely Mountain, which is several pages long. Bilbo is enchanted by that song, and that convinces him to go along. He later tries his own hand at song writing, and a bit of it is sung by Gandalf arriving and Bilbo departing in the beginning of Fellowship.

[@legends011]

Don't give up on this series yet Mr. October, the next movie is waaay better!!!

[@kobarsos82]

Completely agree with you guys. Fanservice indeed. Its fun yes, but that's all it is. Its stretched. The story here is just for one film. They made it into 3. And it shows. Its not bad, its watchable, but it holds no power over what masterpiece the lotr trilogy is. Its not even 1/4th as good. It is what it is. Its goofy, its cartoony, yeah, its a kid's short novel after all. And its ok. The first hobbit film is the best of the three in my opinion. The part that is super close to the book is the riddles in the dark chapter with Gollum. That was done amazingly well. Lots of other stuff in this trilogy is not even from the book. Its fabricated. But I guess we can kinda accept it, if we agree that its just a nostalghia trilogy to get back into the world. LOTR was a dark trilogy, and the source material was like that too. The story and flow was insanely good, it can't be topped. Also agreed about CGI, there is something magical on what they achieved with the practical effects in the first lotr trilogy that can not be replicated no matter the money they throw to CGI effects. CGI truly makes it more ugly and unrealistic most of the time. Its messy. Its fun though with the right perspective. And hey you will enjoy the dragon for sure!!

[@dovyplayz5517]

Reason evil couldn’t sense the ring yet in the hobbit trilogy is because sauron wasn’t strong enough

[@marygifford9379]

THe main problem was that there was very little time to film and no time to prepare for these movies. Jackson was brought in last minute and filmed it 3d and a higher speed than normal, which added difficulties. In LOTR, he had years to prepare and make much of it real and not so much cg.

[@majbrat]

This is set in middle earth. It's just 60 years before LOTR and Sauron was just stirring, so the orcs & evil beasts are not all controlled by his evil yet. Regarding your opinion: To be fair, the Hobbit was written a little lighter to appeal more to children, and the movie makers wrote it with a bit more silly humour and less darkness than LOTR to get more of a younger audience for $$$ to make it PG, and they added characters not in the books (a big no-no for die hard fans as Tolkien was very deliberate and smart with his characters and humour). LOTR is much more serious and had a more exclusive, older rating in theatres. The stakes are also much higher in LOTR for the whole world is in peril; this one is an adventure. Another problem they had is they did not have Peter Jackson, his wife, or a lot of the team to start with. The movie production was postponed years with issues, then part way through filming the director was fired and they begged Peter to come save it. If the Jackson team had written the screenplay, it would have been closer to book, and been better imo, but Peter & team did their best with what was written. The special effects coming in the next 2 movies are pretty wonderful and they are fun & entertaining. The first one had to set up a lot of character introductions, and establish how important reclaiming the mountain was, which is never as fun. Keep an open mind, and remember this one you can watch with your kids sooner once you feel it's ok. ;) Then LOTR when they are teens.

[@cryan8373]

When Galadriel said "I have passed the test. I will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Galadriel" it was because despite always having wanted power, and a realm of her own to rule, she denied the One Ring which is the strongest of all the rings. She bared the ring Nenya which was what empowered her and the realm she created, Lothlorien, which she could not do without Nenya. She knew that denying the One Ring meant two things for sure in the very near future: 1) Frodo would succeed and destroy the One Ring, which had power over all other rings of power, which meant Nenya would lose its power, which is what kept her realm alive and flourishing and 2) She knew that if Frodo failed and Sauron was reunited with the One Ring, then should would have to take off her ring to avoid being corrupted by Sauron and become a slave to the ring she bared. Either way the test she passed was not giving in to her yearning for power and in doing so meant she knew she was giving up all the power she had at this time, and so she knew it was time to return home, and that her place was not in Middle Earth.

[@JamesSmith-yv8yj]

Just to clear it up. The creatures in the mountain are goblins and they are ruled by the goblin king (the big one with the saggy neck lol) they have similarities to orcs, but they are ultimately different species. They turn to stone in sunlight like the 3 big ones earlier in the movie that were trying to roast the dwarfs, which is why they usually live inside caves or mountain. Orcs don’t like sunlight, but they can survive in it.

[@Taewills]

The fact that Galadriel can get into Gandalf’s head doesn’t speak to his skill level but more so hers. She’s incredibly powerful & can get into anyone’s head 😉 Also Gandalf isn’t “young” in this - he’s been in Middle Earth for 300 years at this point lol

[@Neji513]

"why does his face look like an apple pie though" lmao

[@brenttuttle7268]

The Hobbit also takes place in Middle Earth.....just 60 years before LOTR

[@HandleTakenlol]

This was the story which first introduced Middle Earth to mankind. It was drafted as a children's story, set in an entire world without electronics of any kind where people sang songs and told stories for entertainment. The modern Western world just seems to have a problem with that.

[@kevinpakkala3721]

I liked these movies but the LOTR trilogy is a masterpiece. So I'll admit that when Bilbo first picks up The Ring, the LOTR music playing gives me chills and a little excitement.

[@kenpullig1652]

Can't forget not everything is an accident. The One Ring is trying to get back to its master, who is regaining his power. Trapped with Gollum under the ground it senses when a possible way out arrives in the form of Bilbo, so it "falls" out of the pouch to be "found". Bilbo's sword glows blue when orcs or goblins are near, and likely any other related critters. As far as the majority of complaints about this trilogy, imagine the difficulty of squeezing the LotR trilogy into just one movie. Now, imagine trying to stretch one shorter story like The Hobbit into a trilogy. Either way would create a world of aggravation for fans of the books.

[@brendancolquitt3029]

This is indeed middle earth. Rivendell was in the hobbit and the lord of the rings. Middle earth is the continent. Frodo and Sam called bilbo a g because they heard bilbos story from bilbo. Who says "yea I was a wuss" when telling a story?

[@frogos202]

aside from the CGI, they did invent an entire new camera just for this movie, for the beautiful scenery, i heard it was to much for ppl in theaters and made them sick lol. too high def :D

[@ValtteriMyllymäki]

"When elves go bad they go Marvel villain bad" A fun little tie in with the MCU and Tolkien's universe: Cate Blanchett is Galadriel and Hela, Lee Pace is Thranduil and Ronan and Hugo Weaving is Elrond and Red Skull. Also, the scene with Bilbo and Gollum, "riddles in the dark", also has a tie in with the MCU: in Black Panther when agent Ross interogates Klaue, well who are the two actors playing the characters 😁

[@linarandel]

I chuckle every time you make parallels to GoT, too funny LOL! 😄😄😄

[@hulkinjector2735]

42:59 I respect the rewind 😂

[@alexflorea4879]

Glad to see you guys!!!

[@lorancehack5206]

As much as I love both trilogy, I love the contrasting differences between the two. The Hobbit is an embellish epic adventurous tale told through the eyes of Bilbo with some half-truths for Frodo. It's goofy and entertaining. Whereas In The Lord of the Rings, Frodo's story is filled with suffering and hardships. He quickly realizes he's not like Bilbo, and that the actual reality is no match for the legend he admires. In the end he loses his optimism and his happiness and leaves Middle-Earth.

[@79mib]

Glad to be geeking along with y’all

[@usagi3093]

The Riddles in the Dark is my favorite part of the movie. This is also the name of the chapter in The Hobbit book.

[@kurauza]

Lets goooo! U guys will love the next 2❤❤

[@TheVillainousTitan]

Actually, Gandalf would have a beauti"fly, you fools"

[@daviddusek3371]

Believe me, most of LOTR fans won´t be surprised by your reserved reaction. I´d say that, if you would claim it comparable with LOTR movies, it would feel just fake. Hobbit was the first published book from Middleearth from Tolkien. And it was originally bed time story for his children. It is an awesome short lighthearted fairytale about little lazy hobbit (a folks that he invented in this book - hence the name) dragged by an extravagant wizzard into adventure with funny grumpy dwarves, stupid clumsy trolls, singing nasty orcs, high stake game of riddles, and heroic march on greedy dragon. I really recomend reeding the book. It´s short, fun and quite magical. When the LOTR books came out, it was entirely different. It was epic saga expanding immensely the world, the mytology and the stakes. It was partly built on the Hobbit (and revealed that during Hobbit storyline, there were happening much more important things than it seemed in the fairytale) but it was completely different style, tune and amount of story (Hobbit is short book, LOTR are three large ones). As someone pointed out here, Hobbit was "supposedly" writen by Bilbo, who was in his eyes simply on an awesome adventure (and became a bit of wierd celebrity for that back in uneventfull Shire). And LOTR was written by Frodo, who held the weight of whole worlds fate, and was not able to heal from that trauma. When the LOTR movies were created, it was in some ways one huge professional fan project. Practically everyone from the huge crew were fully into it. What was possible, was shot in real locations with real masks and properties. They had huge story source (three large books with apendixes and large legendarium) and passion to reproduce it as close as possible (recreate the same feeling as they have reading them). And they had will to spent enough time, energy and resources on it. And the result speaks for itself. When the Hobbit movies were created, the situation was quite different. There was probably simmilar passion at the start, but than studios came in and forced their way in hope of higher proffit. They demanded, that this tiny book, should be also triology (original plan were two movies). So the story had to be expanded by a lot of things different from the book (which usually don´t quite fit with the main story - that was also heavilly altered). They even forced the change of director (Peter Jackson was not the original one, but they thaught, that he would make it as great as he made LOTR). And they wanted the movies as soon as possible, without spending unnescessary money. So less real locations, less carefully crafted props, more CGI and more cheap time fillings. There were even instances, when the actors had to shoot random battle scenes, that were not yet in the script (and the script had to be done based on them). Even the soundtrack got short. Sure, there are some amazing pieces, but also some cheap nonsencical ripoffs (like using LOTR Nazgul theme as random epic tune for unrelated epic scenes). Yeah and lot of fanservice too squeeze the most of nostalgia and LOTR success. I still remember the dissapointment from cinema, where I was looking forward to see passionately presented beloved fairytale, and have seen wierd attempt of "LOTR success part two" that could not decide if it should be heavy and serious or lighthearted and goofy (and failed to combine both). Not mentioning how far it went away from the book, too make it long enough for three movies. I don´t want to just rant about it. It was not that bad as it might sound from what I just wrote. In some way I enjoyed it and it definetly had a lot of great parts (exspecially the first movie). But I just really understand your dissapointment and simply tried to shed some light on few potential reasons for it. And I believe that most of the fans understand too, in some way.

[@matthewblaszkiewicz9063]

I think that makes sense with saying the movie was all over the place and if you have a different perspective from the books. The hobbit book seems to have constant action every chapter. Obviously more of a kid’s story so it’s a bit goofy but fun.

[@naomicummings]

I like your guys reaction, and watching it with you guys, thanks! When Bilbo gets the ring, it doesn’t attract Sauron’s attention like by the time LOtR is set because he hasn’t bent all his strength towards finding it yet or whatever, so yeah basically the wearer just gets to be invisible. It’s funny you mentioned you didn’t like the riddle battle between Bilbo and Gollum, as it is such an iconic part of the story from the book! But it’s ok, maybe because it is more a children’s story, it really does come off well in the book. I totally agree that the increase in CGI cheapens the effect of the movie. I love the New Zealand landscape as Middle Earth, loved seeing Galadriel in the story, and her friendship with Gandalf. Also enjoyed the inclusion of Radagast the brown, though he is portrayed very differently than I imagined from the little description we get in LOtR. Like you I just enjoy spending time again in middle earth. And the soundtrack! It really does serve the movies well.

[@theredpriest]

The reason for the riddle game is because The Hobbit was a story Tolkien made for his kids. That he revised later. Children's stories usually have puzzles/games like this for the characters to overcome. It's a clever way at putting a teaching/learning lesson into a story.

[@kallanembongue4307]

The next movie is very much better I think you shouldn't give up !

[@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy]

Honestly, I still feel most of people's beefs with these movies can be placed squarely on the shoulders of Tolkien himself. This was just not as dense, epic, or complex of a story as LOTR... and I also feel as though most people are oblivious to the fact that Tolkien wrote this book first, and that LOTR wouldn't exist without it. Even so, I *do* feel that some of the liberties Jackson & Co. took with the story actually improved on it in relation to LOTR -- namely having the Orc pack pursuing the Company from the start; I feel it helped raise the stakes of the story, whereas in the book the Company often ambled on with little to no urgency.

[@irife2771]

You will probably get a different reception to these than you did with LOTR. People are pretty tough on them because they are sort of cookie cutter cinema at points; something LOTR isn't. It almost comes off as a children's movie at times... I honestly think its fine because I always viewed The Hobbit books as more of children's tale. Either way, they are fun in my opinion and you get to see more dwarven stuff which is cool.

[@kennycooper294]

to be honest i first encountered this story through the rankin bass cartoon so that has a special place in my heart. if you can find it thats worth watching

[@r3ijav]

Yo, Mr. October.. where you get the glasses at? lol they're cool, just wondering

[@Ianihilater1]

I 100% agree with your comments at the end of the film reaction. I felt the same way the first time I watched it. Also bear in mind, that the Hobbit films are about 60%-70% made up and do not even follow the actual book. In the films they've made Azog the Defiler the main antagonist - and while he technically existed in Thorin's story in his past, he has passed away and is not in the company's adventure to Erebor at all in the actual book. This definitely effected the way The Hobbit felt on screen. I'm sure lot's more plays into it, but these films are certainly subpar to the LOTR trilogy for a multitude of reasons. Still beautifully filmed and edited, nonetheless. Honest reactions are always the best! Keep up the excellent work y'all!

[@karlschmitt6359]

Saruman began to secretly desire the ring hundreds of years before the events of Lord Of Lord Of The Rings and before Sauron's return. The Necromancer is basically Sauron, I think.

[@spencernaugle]

If Sauron let it be known that he was not dead. Everybody would have worked together to fight him again to weaken him. And keep the number of orcs down. (Obviously they can't kill him, so it's like cutting off a weed each year instead of digging out the roots) He Used the name Necromancer so he could go about his business Undercover. Slowly building up his strength and growing his army. Only around now, did the council realize the necromancer is Sauron. I forget how long it took him just to regenerate a physical body again. After the ring was cut from his hand, he was in spirit form for a long time.

[@karlschmitt6359]

@satlynutz thank you, I appreciate that, you answered the questions I had for the longest time.

[@joeygauvin2765]

Hell yeah. Thanks guys been waiting for more middle earth 😊

[@dlangley49]

These movies grew on me too, the story is epic in its own way but not the dame way as LOTR

[@dlangley49]

Also...gandalf is like 1000 years old at this point

[@BeastrealDT]

The next movie has my favorite character from Tolkien. 🔥🐉✌️

[@kallanembongue4307]

Me too 😌

[@jstrahan2]

FYI: All that you see in this movie takes place in Middle Earth. In fact, all of the original trilogy takes place in Middle Earth.

[@stevenm2722]

I know that the Rings of Power gets a ton of hate and I definitely see why. The show deserves much of the criticism it gets but I'm still kind of enjoying it. There's one character in particular that definitely hits me in the feels. If you let go of the expectation that the show should be an exact recreation of the Silmarillion it's actually pretty decent. I for one would like to see you guys react to it.

[@Grizzly_6623]

These movies are kinda like if you told somebody to make a lord of the rings movie but instead of letting them watch lord of the rings for reference you made them watch transformers

[@Ciffer-1998]

33:10 well Gollum was wearing ring from time to time and he was left alone, only in LOTR Fellowship of the Ring the dark forces awoke till then they were chilling for some reasons

[@BLynn]

My understanding, is that Hobbits represent children in the stories, while Elves represent the truly old & wise. I have no idea if that helps you or not. Additionally, I know that all the movies were kind of piecemealed together, but the LotRs stuck closer to the text while this was trying to homogenize 3 stories into one & did not do as well as the others. "The Hobbit" was a single book so they expanded a lot to get more than one movie.

[@kobarsos82]

The gray version of Gandalf is in fact in some ways the weakest out of all the wizards in terms of raw power, at least according to the books, and even when the "God" of this world chose him as one of The Maya to walk middle earth, they did it because of his courage and power to give hopes to others. That was his talent. A different kind of talent, and one that exhibited wisdom of a different kind. It was never strength or being super powerful or something else. It was all about giving hope to the races of Middle earth to survive and stand tall against evil. And they made no mistake in choosing him as we have seen.

[@danielleyoung3133]

In a lot of stories and mythos dragons covet gold, its not unusual that smog wants to horde it all

[@bluegypsy71]

Bougie glamorous dragons should be a band name😅🐉✨

[@dw4zemi382]

Its pity that stayed bilbo's hand.

[@blackwolf4653]

Where was Gondor when Bilbo had pity.?

[@ricardoortiz4870]

24:48 This scene is from Black Panther.

[@johnmorris1009]

The Hobbit films are a mixture of good and bad. When you said that the stakes felt higher in LOTR, it's kind of a correct statement. Many of the action scenes in the Hobbit films seem to be too fast paced and more about spectacle than tension and realism. It rarely feels as though our heroes lives are at stake. The films are also more lighthearted than LOTR for two reasons; 1 The Hobbit book was intended to be for children, when Tolkien wrote it. 2. The screen writers decided to introduce many of their own jokes and gags. Some are funny, but some of it isn't very respectful to the book and is just annoying. Overall I think the films are OK and I still come to them occasionally to watch some of the better scenes.