Part-2 "THE CAR" BRUCE HUDSON EDMUND FITZGERALD TRIBUTE 2022

[@ThomasJanik-nf5vi]

I was a Sophmore and Bruce was Senior at North Olmsted high school. We were classmates in woodshop class. I remember Bruce telling us that his Uncle, got him a job on a Great Lakes freighter. R.I.P. Bruce.

[@sonofelohim9857]

Not that it matters but I'm a black man from central Pennsylvania I'm 59 now but I remember the song about the Fitz and wcpa playing that song for years it's popularity didn't seem to pass with time, and I remember how I felt when it would play at night time on WLS from Chicago it was haunting and yet it drew you into what happened always felt that way when I hear the song, thank you for sharing the history of the car and Bruce, how nice was it that his mother and family welcomed you into their hearts and memories, my God do I miss those days back in the late 60's and early 70's........ Again thank you for bringing all of us into the experience.......

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You're very welcome Son of Elohim. Thanks for sharing your heartfelt thoughts here...and thanks for watching! HMM

[@GregoryYancer-on2ns]

My buddy had just turned 18 and his first voyage was suppose to be on the Fitz for that run. His paperwork didn't come through in time for him to join the crew. He lost his uncle on the Fitz, Thomas Edwards 2nd Assistant Engineer.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Wow...that's a powerful story Gregory; thanks for sharing it here. HMM

[@DonRRicks]

I graduated high school in 1973, the year after Bruce. I have always been fascinated with the history of the Edmund Fitzgerald, the Lightfoot song, and the stories the men who died. I suppose the age similarities I have with the young men is especially haunting, especially now that I’m in the winter of life. Thank you for these thoughtful and respectful videos

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You're welcome Don R...thanks for watching. It's easy to get hooked on the story of the Mighty Fitz. HMM

[@lindasimons9916]

Dave Laube is my brother in law. He’s an absolute sweetheart of a guy. This weekend he helped me move a carousel horse and it was the first time I heard of this story and the car and Bruce. I just watched the videos and now I have goosebumps. The car could not be in better hands as Dave treasurers this car and does everything in his power to promote Bruce’s memory. RIP Bruce. Your car is in great hands.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks Linda; I'm very glad to hear from you. And I'm glad you came across the video stories. Not only great hands, but the very best hands to preserve Bruce's famous Challenger. I appreciate your support...HMM

[@gregj831]

It is so awesome that Lightfoot wrote that song and God Bless that man for keeping Hudson's Challenger running and looking so good. When I was a small child, our family used to vacation in a small cottage on Lake Erie. Of course, to a little guy like me, that was a huge deal having my entire family in that little cottage. At night whenever the visibility got bad, we could hear those Ore Boats blowing their horns way out there on the Lake. I was always intrigued if not a bit spooked by this. Though the Fitz was lost on Superior, it was during these low visibility nights that Lake Erie lived up to its name.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Super interesting comments...you can feel this one. Thanks greg j...HMM

[@goldenwheeledbanshee9160]

I thought it down in lake Superior.

[@gregoryclayton8287]

Well rest assure, Bruce is looking down from the heavens and sees that his little Dodge Challenger is in all loving hands, and she is cherry-cherry. God bless you Dave, you are a man after my own heart. Now and then when you're driving alone, you may feel, but may not see a presence with you, don't be alarmed, Bruce is just in for the ride with a friend. A great story. Again, God bless you Dave Laube! MOPAR ON BABY!!! PS, And a big thanks to Gordon Lightfoot, love his music!!! RIP... What a fantastic tribute, and beyond words, that's class, Great job! History Mystery Man... the Eggster.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks sir; I know Dave appreciates it too. That car found the right human...HMM

[@chuckg6039]

Enjoyed your Part 2 Don. A comment was made about how Gordon Lightfoot's song really helped increase public awareness of the Fitgerald's tragedy. But let us also not forget about the November sinking of the 639 foot Carl Bradley in Lake Michigan with a loss of even more men.....33 with the Bradley. Most of the crew was from the small town of Rogers City, MI. This tragic sinking happened only 16 years before the Fitz. Most have never even heard of the Bradley. There was no song about that ship. Each ship was at one time 'Queen of the Lakes'. How fitting for two such beautiful ladies.....both never to be forgotten. .

[@jamesbraun9842]

It was actually 31 of 33. Two Bradley crew members were rescued by Coast Guard. There is also a song called "wreck of the Carl D.Bradley."

[@chuckg6039]

@@jamesbraun9842 I knew about the 2 survivors but not about the song. I'll have to check it out.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

That would be worth listening to...thanks. HMM

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Great points. There's one of the Bradley's life rings in Great Lakes museum along the Maumee here in Toledo. Thanks friend...HMM

[@spaceflight1019]

Same as the El Faro. The difference is that the El Faro had a Voyage Data Recorder that recorded the bridge audio from the ship's final 12 hours. You can find the transcript online. I highly recommend reading it but with one caveat: once you begin you won't want to stop.

[@topenddean]

Being an only child myself, Bruce's story, his Mother and what she must have felt losing her only son...wow, it really touches ones heart. Such a tragedy. Thank you for telling his story, and for me, being a MoPar guy, it is even more endearing to me.

[@andrewnorris1514]

Imagine how happy his mom was when she was gonna have a grandchild

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks for your interest in Bruce's story! HMM

[@topenddean]

@@HistoryMysteryMan Thank you for all the work it must have taken to put this together. I was just a little over two months out from going to USAF Basic Training at Lackland AFB in San Antonio, Tx when The Fitz was lost. I was 17

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

@@topenddean You're welcome X; thanks for watching...HMM

[@richardprice5978]

and regular joe's like me getting a window in to the past as somehow millennial's and zoomer's think most car's from the 60's/70's where always the top model aka 426hemi+833+4.55-gear ect my charger isn't the top dog for 69 and yes im a 80's/90's kid

[@scottusry]

the part in the song where the cook says fellas its been good to know ya gets me every time

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You and me both, brother...HMM

[@ericheld4382]

Gordon's song gives me chills, the fact he tells a timeline of what happened that cold night, it's amazing how he could write it in such detail it's like 29 spirits guided him to put pin to paper.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

It's one of the most powerful ballads I've ever heard, and it always gets my attention every time. Thanks for watching...HMM

[@richg1972]

@@HistoryMysteryMan I turned 3 years old on the day the Edmund Fitzgerald went down, I was born November 10th 1972 and I was not expected to survive past a year

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

@@richg1972 And here you are...going strong! Thanks for sharing your story here...HMM

[@richg1972]

@@HistoryMysteryMan In your videos there is what appears to be a painting of the Edmund Fitzgerald with his running lights all on at night. Is it a painting? Because if so I'd like to be able to use it as the background for a desktop theme I am doing

[@RaiderX948]

Great to see someone that truly appreciates the value of a person's memory also has such an important piece of the man.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

I'll buy that. Thanks again, James...HMM

[@wendellellison3482]

Such an honor. In some way, BOTH of you are keeping Bruce's flame lit.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks Wendell...greatly appreciated. HMM

[@stevenreynolds8393]

Thanks! Seeing Bruce Hudson's Challenger is a nice and interesting "twist" to the Edmund Fitzgerald story. Glad to see it being preserved in his memory. I grew-up in Western Michigan and was living in Houghton, Michigan when the Edmund Fitzgerald sank. I remember the day well... the weather was very strange and then the "missing" of the Edmund Fitzgerald was very big news around the Great lakes, as well as national. That day will always be on my mind. Hopefully the Arthur Anderson will be preserved as a museum ship when it retires.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Sweet...love the Arthur Anderson retirement idea! Thanks Steven...HMM

[@tresfingeros]

A great tribute to both Bruce and the Fitzgerald crew, the "car" helps tie a life to the ship and song. I listen to that song very often on "pandora"

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks again, Scott M. And there's more to the story! HMM

[@HarleyCat54]

Thank you so much for telling this story and giving us all a ride in Bruce's car. I always wondered where this car went. God Bless you.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks again, Harley Cat; I appreciate you! HMM

[@chrisheinen9628]

BEAUTIFUL CAR!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Absolutely! Thanks for watching...HMM

[@stevenknipe1624]

Don, Thank you for another fantastic video. Special thanks to the gentleman for saving Bruce's car and being a great caretaker of history. Please do a segment on each crew member and what their job/position was on the Fitzgerald. I am a car/racing person but have no lake freighter experience, so if you could detail each job of each crew member, I think many would be interested. Maybe spread it out over several segments. Thank you for all your dedication.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

This would be a duty worth pursuing. Some of the names are so hard to find anything on. Thanks again, Steven...HMM

[@milwscruffy]

Being a lifelong Milwaukee resident, I saw the Fitzgerald at port a few times throughout the years, a massive vessel ! Great video per usual.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Great place to see the Fitz. I spent 6 weeks once in the harbor at Milwaukee...our James A. Hannah Tug in drydock for repairs. Young kid then...had a blast...thanks. HMM

[@milwscruffy]

@@HistoryMysteryMan Yeah, pretty sure I was a whole bunch younger also !

[@Modeltnick]

This story literally makes me tear up. So glad that this man is remembered in such a positive way. The whole story still tears at the heart of all who learn about it. Thanks!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks for watching...so appreciated. HMM

[@rogerozdarski2935]

Thank you HMM ! Powerful two videos. RIP Bruce.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks Roger...HMM

[@beberle9641]

God speed to the Fitz and her men who will be with her forever in time. What a spectacular story and video. The mighty great lakes are a wonder of our world. I am blessed to have seen them all. I remember going out fishing with my dad and grandpa in a tiny fishing boat you go out 8miles on Erie from Monroe for walleye or smallmouth. Crazy when it gets rough and that can happen very fast. But hey I am still here. Thanks Don. Brian

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Same experience with my dad on the western end of Erie. In a rowboat at 4am, believe me that little kid thought it was eerie. Thanks B...HMM

[@beberle9641]

@@HistoryMysteryMan A row boat and a prayer. What could go wrong? Good times old times. See you next time HMM.

[@Johnny53kgb-nsa]

What a heart touching story. Bruce seemed like a really good guy, and I know he has to be happy knowing his beautiful car is in the best hands possible. I want to thank you both for such a heart warming story. Bruce was born in the same year as myself, 1953. Rip. John

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Sweet! Thanks for your heartfelt thoughts on Bruce...so appreciated. And thanks for watching, John. HMM

[@darlenejohnson8864]

So wonderful that Dave Laube is taking care of Bruce's car. Great respect.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

It's in the very best hands; thanks Darlene...HMM

[@wht-rabt-obj]

People always talk about the Ferrari or Lamborghini they'd buy if they were rich...but, if I had the money to buy ANY car I wanted, I would buy an old Detroit muscle car like this one. Probably a few! I love these cars.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

I'm with you on car choice...MoTown MuscleCar Americana please! Thanks for watching...HMM

[@wht-rabt-obj]

R.I.P Gordon Lightfoot he and his music will be missed.

[@manlaw77]

Amazing videos! God bless all of you to continue this story! Awesome!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks...and certainly for remembering the Mighty Fitz and her crew. #RIP to all...HMM

[@Ibhorscrazi]

Wow another amazing video!! Thank you so much for this! I truly feel he wants to be known and now he can Rest In Peace, god bless his soul and all the other crew members ❤

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks! Love the Tag name! HMM

[@steelydannyb.9028]

If my memory is correct I saw the Fitzgerald at U.S. Steel Gary IN. working the Iron Ore docks 1973 74. Such a tragedy that should not have happened. There is a good documentary out there about the sinking. At least Bruce got some fun with that cool 74 Challenger. God Bless R.I.P.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks for your interesting comments. I've seen several really good documentaries out there on the Mighty Fitz. And thanks for taking the time to watch! HMM

[@208miuwu]

It's amazing how a story comes to light and brings so many questions and peopletogether. I remember about 30- 35yrs ago hearing the song of the Edmond Fitzgerald. True music back in the day. Thank you for sharing this with us here in KZbin land. God Bless

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Sure glad I could bring people together, especially to remember the Mighty Fitz and her crew. Thanks for watching...HMM

[@johnboynotwalton5886]

Again, what an amazing story and an amazing find. "Well done" to this guy for preserving this historical piece and "thank you" for documenting it. You have got to feel a little super hero like. Thanks Bubba.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Great to hear my real name! Thanks again new friend...HMM

[@mattdelaney4031]

Wow! Great videos. This story never ends. Thanks for keeping it going. I'm sure there are other stories just like this from the surviving family members

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You know there are...just hard to dig up. This one took years. Thanks Matt! HMM

[@rosemaryangela1825]

This was so much appreciated!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks Rosemary...HMM

[@robertayers9424]

The legacy continues. My curiosity on the Fitzgerald continues as well. Like you said it may never go away. Being from northern Minnesota and having relatives who worked the mines, my curiosity on the shipping was there before. I was young but do remember the report of the sinking ( 10 yrs old). Thanks again for keeping the memories, of the men , alive!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks again, Robert...nice. HMM

[@sudsysutherland359]

What a great video “History Mystery Man”, i’ve been following your channel now for about close to two years & i’ve watched a lot of your dirt/asphalt oval track racing video’s🏁 as well. I’m a Mopar fan big time & have always been intrigued by the 60’s & 70’s Mopar muscle cars in which imo are the big dogs when it comes to muscle cars,drag racing. When i heard about Bruce Hudson’s 1974 Dodge Challenger with a 340c.i. & being one of the late “Edmond Fitzgerald” crew members it really struck a chord with me & being Canadian & with the famed Gordon Lightfoot being Canadian as well & the singer/song writer of the classic song the,”Wreck Of The Edmond Fitzgerald” made the “Fitz” well known around the World. Another great Canadian singer/song writer is Neil Young who writes songs about history as well & has a lot of hit songs. Back to Bruce Hudson’s 74 challenger i’m glad someone owns it now who can really appreciate it & is a Mopar fanatic as well so you know Bruce’s old 74 challenger is in good hands 👍 ~ Cheers from Windsor,Ontario,Canada🇨🇦 ~

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Hey there Windsor; thanks for chiming in! I love Windsor...such a clean, cool, safe city. It's worth noting that Captain McSorley was also from Canada...Spencerville, Ontario...although he grew up in Ogdensburg, New York. He lived most of his adult days in Toledo, Ohio, my hometown. Thanks for your support of the History Mystery Man!

[@hugechimp]

LOVE These!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks again, hugechimp! HMM

[@FlyBoyzAviation]

Love the collections items you’re building. It’s like going through some of the museums asking yourself what you could learn if those pieces could talk. Took my kids through Valley Camp & touched the board this last fall. Can’t tell ya how eerie & small I felt standing next to those. The Bradley life boat is the other one that really makes you wonder how & why. The life ring of the Morell. The stories we know from the survivors about the sights & sounds but here we have no stories other than the witnesses of that day.

[@chrisrainey3588]

That car is priceless!! You're so lucky to have it! My ex wife is from Michigan. I've been to the Edmond Fitzgerald museum. If something happens to you, It needs to be there IMO. Stupid drivers out there taking a risk every time you take that out! Cars are meant to be driven. But Damn! You are driving history there! You're a lucky dude! If i owned it. It would be in a temp controlled case!.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Ha! Love the temp controlled case idea. Thanks for watching...HMM

[@toddgilmore8412]

Wow what an amazing story! Such a great job uncovering the mystery of Bruce's 74 Dodge Challenger. So good to see that Mr. Dave Laube is taking such good care of this iconic car. He is certainly helping to keep the history of the story alive and ensuring that the Legend lives on.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks Todd. Bruce's Challenger could not have fallen into better hands than Dave's. That car is his pride and joy and he guards over it as if his life depended on it. He understands how important the car is...so that said, the car is right where it belongs. HMM

[@josephplymel7583]

I am from Florida and have no ties to the great lakes or anything up north. The closest to anywhere near the great lakes was just inside the state line in Ohio. I was scanning music on KZbin one night and the Gordon lightfoot song about the Edmond Fitzgerald came on and I listened to it and read the lyrics to the song. After the song I googled all the info about the ship and it's fate and I've been fascinated about it all. Now after all the research and videos I've watched I feel a connection to everything. I lost my leg and was diagnosed with cancer since I've discovered everything I know about the Edmond Fitzgerald and the 29 crew members but somehow one day if the good lords will I will make it to white fish bay to pay my respects and experience everything in person. Until then I will continue watching your videos and thank you for everything you do sir! God bless!!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks for watching...and thanks for sharing your thoughts here. The story of the Mighty Fitz grabs ahold and doesn't let go, so it shall be with you always. I hope you're doing ok in regard to your health, and I hope you get to Whitefish Point soon for the amazing, unforgettable experience. Thanks again, and happy holidays. HMM

[@trentbryant2373]

As always HMM Great video, very interesting and informative. Love it. Thank you Sir.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks again, Trent...HMM

[@tomrogers5154]

Don, Thanks for this amazing 2-part story. It's always amazing watching your history mystery videos. This one is definitely amazing. Thanks again.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks! It's great to hear from you again. Hope all is well...happy holidays. HMM

[@tomrogers5154]

@History Mystery Man I'm doing well, thanks. I watched that two parts story while was it amazing and touching I also watched the episode of this year's Esmond Fitzgerald I've always been intrigued by that and like hearing history on that even though it was one month and 10 days before I was born I hope all is well with you too happy holidays

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

@@tomrogers5154 All good here Tom...thanks. Merry Christmas. HMM

[@Glyder1959]

What a Great story Don. Really enjoyed this one.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks kindly...always appreciated. HMM

[@kevinhines7917]

HMM, thank you for part one and part two. They are amazing. I was 11 in November 1975 when I learned of the loss of the Fitzgerald and crew. I'm from PA and I'm not sure why I've always felt so emotionally connected to the story and to the song throughout the decades. Thanks again for your wonderful work.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks Kevin...so appreciated. The song grabs ahold, and never lets go. What part of PA are you from? I love PA. HMM

[@reptar5.048]

I was wondering if you were gonna post a part 2! Fascinating

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks kindly, HMM

[@bluewave7120]

I appreciate the part 2 TY

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You're always welcome! HMM

[@rev.randall2292]

Such an interesting story , thats part of a bigger story thats held me captive since early on. Great car to.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks for taking the time to watch! HMM

[@rev.randall2292]

@@HistoryMysteryMan You bet. Like you , and many others , I dont know why but I have been moved and just feel connected to this story somehow since I knew all about it. I cant hardly listen to the song without a tear welling up. Was fascinated with the Fitz , History of the Lakes and Auto Industry. I drove over the road many years and made trips up and around the areas. Just so much side story of the individuals , interesting. Thanks for the vids. Will check out the other topics as well.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks again...I'm sure you have some interesting 'over the road' stories. HMM@@rev.randall2292

[@jamesmay7385]

Great video, thank you

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You're welcome James; thanks for watching! HMM

[@normpaddle]

Thats pretty cool. Love those old cars. Kind of weird to think Gordys song plays on the car stereo on Nov 10th like the guy said.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Old classic muscle cars from the 70s...doesn't get any better. Thanks...HMM

[@denverseifried3378]

Don, what a great interview. The owner of the Challenger reminds me so much of my neighboor. Wonderful story to share with those of us who happen to be "Car Guys" and "boatnerds." Reminds me of the only Dodge I ever owned. Mine was a 71 Dodge Dart Swinger, two door hardtop. It was a 318 V8; however, I put an Edelbrock Streetmaster on it and a Holly 4 barrel on it, along with dual exhaust and Corvair Monza styled mufflers. Thanks for this one and some very beautiful music at the beginning and end. Very tatsefully done!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks again, Denny...so appreciated. Still got that '71 Dodge Dart? What a car! HMM

[@jonathanlawson4667]

I've always loved and been fascinated with the Edmund and it's sinking along with the men on board may God rest their soul!!! What hurts me the most about this whole situation is the bodies of them men being down there...

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks Jonathan, for remembering the Mighty Fitz and her crew. HMM

[@markhall6306]

Good job with the Challenger. I remember seeing the Fitzgerald in the Soo Locks in 1972 while to circle tour of Lake Superior in a Winnebago had pictures don't know where they are at but have Super 8 footage as well

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Wow! Let me know if you find those pics...would love to see them! Thanks...HMM

[@Blrtech77]

HMM Thank You and You Are the Best!!!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks again! HMM

[@RAV1953]

Salute to HMM....very good!!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks again, my friend...HMM

[@andrewfosbinder2826]

I was born in May of 73 I feel the conection with this car.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

It's easy to become connected with this car, this story. Thanks for watching. '73 was a great year! HMM

[@sqd37l]

I remember the news reports of the Edmond Fitzgerald sinking and I remember the song coming out. This story is an important part of my life. Rest in peace crew of the Fitz.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks for remembering the Mighty Fitz and her crew...and thanks for watching. HMM

[@dsgp7835]

At Barret Jackson or Mecum, a 74 Challenger like this would sell for mid five figures. With the history of this car, it's a million dollar vehicle. This story is fascinating.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Wow...interesting values you place on this car...interesting. HMM

[@spaceflight1019]

The collector car market is quirky to say the least. If nobody at the auction cares about the car's history then it gets low bids if any. If you have two Fitz fans they will bid themselves crazy to own a piece of that history. For example...what makes it valuable to the Mopar fans is the 360-4 in the final year of production. It's not a R/T or Trak Pak either. The way that buyers avoided the exorbitant insurance premiums was to order the biggest engine in a luxury package. Another way was to order the trailer towing package. I knew guys who were hot rodding intermediate body station wagons to skate past the insurance companies.

[@dsgp7835]

@ScoobyDoo That car auctioned in Detroit or Chicago where the legend is well known and to the right bidders could bring a million. Historical provenance always adds value and being a seventies muscle car makes it very desirable. If your a boomer you can easily relate to Bruce Hudson's life and be fascinated enough to pay big money for his history and your own.

[@tkdterp8]

I was born in November '73 when that car was brand new. WOW!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

You share a birthday with Bruce's Challenger! Thanks...HMM

[@suehinze1566]

Beautiful car and nice that someone owns it now that knows its history. Pretty neat that the car or any car that is appreciated becomes a part of the original owner and their life story. Of course I'm partial to the old Chryslers, especially Challangers. I myself always wanted a 70's Cuda. I was lucky and came across a 69 Plymouth Barracuda convertible. Only 1442 made. It's in nice shape and I enjoy driving it on a nice summer day, also enjoy taking it to local car shows. But I don't think it has stories to tell like this car. It's really cool that you found the owner of his car. The stories he's found out from his family and the mother are really interesting. And how exciting it is to learn that a baby was born to a young man who was lost to gitche gomee. I would of loved to hear more about who the car was first to and the story behind all that. The car seems to be a big luck charm for the man who owns it now. I hope he doesn't put too many miles on it, though.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

This is, in part, why I do these videos...to hear all the great stories that come back to me here. I remember those Barracudas...my high school buddy had two of them. Of course, now he wishes he still had them. I can do more on the first owner of the car; the current owner does hold that story; thanks for asking. A good luck charm indeed. Who can't use one of those! Thanks again, Sue...HMM

[@Sean-fb7cy]

What a wonderful video So respectful and interesting Thank you again from Ireland I was 10 when the Edmund Fitzgerald was lost my father was a ship’s pilot we also fished commercially all our lives. The Edmund Fitzgerald has such a impact and meaningfulness to me my uncle joe Doherty is buried in PORT ARTHUR Texas. He lost his life when he fell going aboard ship god rest him Even though I’m called Sean I was christened Laurence Joseph John after my grandfather my uncle joe lost in Texas and my father John God bless Sean

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Wow...powerful stories. Thanks for sharing them here. God rest your uncle's soul. That's quite a namesake you carry with you. Thanks for watching from Ireland; that's a huge deal for me! HMM

[@andrewkoetz3933]

Dock 1 was one of the former Great Northern ore docks in Superior, WI. The Great Northern had 4 docks in Superior.

[@keebz75]

May be able to help you guys with where the car was parked at in Toledo! All the sailors who left their cars there were allowed to leave them in designated spots. I just watched a local news video which aired a few years ago and showed a porter who served on the ship and it showed the CSX Toledo Torco Dock which is an iron ore unloading dock still in use today. I still work at the coal dock next door. We do have a lot of pics of the Fitz at the coal slip and cars parked around it but look a lot older than 1974-1975. I’m gonna do some more investigating and see if Torco doesn’t have any older pics of the cars that were there. I’ll also check in with our office and have them start looking for me. Any way you could pass this on to Dave?

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

I sure will; thanks for all the info. I just interviewed today a gentleman who worked/sailed on the Fitz. Is there any chance you might be able to share some of those photos of the Fitz at the dock in Toledo you spoke of? I want to use them in my video. Thanks...let me know. HMM

[@hankerwin7879]

Is that a pic of Bruce at 13:22? I've never seen that one.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

No. That picture at 13:22 is me (deckhand) with the Tug James A. Hannah, Navy Pier, Chicago IL, 1979. Thanks...HMM

[@mromatic17]

the fact that he has a bad ass dodge challenger shows he's a car guy so i know that if i met him we'd probally be best friends. he didn't have some regular boring car but he had that one with the hotrod engine in it! glad to hear that its still in like new condition!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Bruce's Challenger is in the very best hands; thanks for watching! HMM

[@dennismaxwell165]

Thats weird that vin number says G, that is a 318 engine. 73 was last year for the 340.

[@johnosullivan6620]

Facinating! is their one book you could recommend about the Edmond Fitzgerald? Thanks!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

I would recommend the "Gales of November"... thanks for watching! HMM

[@jonathanlawson4667]

You know that car was Bruce's life I know how I am with my cars and whoever gets my camaro when I pass will certainly have a big huge part of me as well

[@toddbob55]

I wish we knew When he bought that car and how it survived so well through the years

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

I can find out when the current owner bought it; I'm going to see him this afternoon. Thanks for watching, Todd...HMM

[@mattcarter259]

Whats this book they keep referring id like to read

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Gales of November by Robert Hemming...thanks.

[@ThomasJanik-nf5vi]

Sailors on the Great Lakes considered the Edmund Fitzgerald to be jinxed ship because of all the water it took on and having constant repair. Some sailors refused to be on it.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Interesting thoughts, Thomas...thanks for sharing them here. HMM

[@ThomasJanik-nf5vi]

My best friend in high school knew him better as he lived on the same street as Bruce. He was in woodshop too with Bruce and me. He drove of Bruce's car in high school and tutored Bruce in math.@@HistoryMysteryMan

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Super interesting...thanks for sharing this.@@ThomasJanik-nf5vi

[@ThomasJanik-nf5vi]

Anytime, sir.@@HistoryMysteryMan

[@glenncooper3524]

I know ppl try to say that they bottomed out and they tried to say the covers weren't clamped down properly. Hearing that his Mom said that company inspectors were looking at the hull had them worried. There you go, im convinced now that the ship was worse off than they thought or knew, and it started failing slowly underneath were they couldn't see it, which would explain the the list and railing coming off and when she broke in two it was already riding low and sank before they even realized what happened.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

It was definitely getting lower and lower in the water...and of course the Captain reported having a list, which means it was definitely taking on water. Why/how it was taking on water remains an open question. Either way, you add the 25-ft. seas and you have a recipe for disaster. Thanks for watching! HMM

[@logdog8920]

The Mopar 340 small block was actually call the "Giant Slayer". The giants being the big block Ford Chevy, and its big brothers the 383 and 440 chrysler big blocks. The reason being the small blocks would achieve much higher rpms and hold together.

[@brettkoeshall2325]

I really like this car, including the auto archaeology of the history because of Bruce Hudson accidentally losing his life on the Edmund Fitzgerald, and I would really like to see the build sheet plus the fender tag.

[@samhill2450]

Bruce didn't play trumpet in the high school band - he played trombone.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Cool, either way. How do you know this? Thanks for sharing...HMM

[@coldcase5844]

History man, I think I know were the car was parked at in Toledo. I will be at Woodward highschool in Toledo tomorrow @ 7p.m. For Lou Herberts lecture on the Fitz and the storm. If I see you there maybe we can chat.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Excellent. I didn't realize there was a lecture tonight at Woodward High School...thanks for sharing that info. HMM

[@coldcase5844]

@@HistoryMysteryMan they will be streaming the event on you tube as well im told

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

@@coldcase5844 I take care of my mom in the evenings so it's hard to get away, but I would have liked to have been at the High School for this event...thanks. HMM

[@vox1966]

The 340 was a great motor it was a muscle car !!!!

[@CSltz]

I remember when the song came out. There was some controversy about some of the lyrics. I thought the line was. “ In a musty old hill in Detroit they prayed “ But it was “Old Hall” and the preacher who ‘s place it was. Didn’t like the reference during a interview. And the investigation team didn’t appreciate the line about the hatches. A lot of the people thought that was the reason. Gordon Lightfoot also said that the song was to be a reference to all the people and ships on the lakes. I grew up around Detroit and when I go back you just can’t seem to not think about that song when you cross the border. And winter storms no matter where (Where’s there snow). Are just like the song. My Grandfather always said that there’s only two seasons in Michigan. Winter and gonna be winter.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

It's a beautiful ballad for sure; thanks for watching! HMM

[@CSltz]

This would have been a little better if I could spell. It wasn’t In a musty old Hill. I was trying to type “in a musty old HULL “ That’s what I thought the words were. Kinda made sense. Ship workers stopping to pray. But later on It was reported that the place actually existed. And the pastor (?). Was not happy with the verse. He was offended by his place being described as musty. Sorry friends hope this clears it up a little. By the way. What in the world is a “ Musty old hill anyway ???

[@CSltz]

15 Bonus Points to anyone that said A Mine..😁😄

[@Komet163B]

Yep, I see the JH23G4B VIN on the door sticker and broadcast sheet, definitely a 318 car.

[@googleusergp]

More specifically, it was made on Friday, November 16, 1973, at the 21st hour of the day. "MDH" means Month-Day-Hour. The VIN gets you the win: J for Challenger, H for High price class, 23 for two door hardtop, G for 318 V8 with two barrel, 4 for 1974 model year, B for Hamtramck, MI assembly and the rest is the production sequence. The Hamtramck, MI plant operated from 1911 to 1980 and was known as "Dodge Main" or "Factory Zero" and was a city within a city, with its' own medical wards, cafeterias, fire protection and an area for employees to work on their own projects after hours called "The Playpen". It closed in 1980 and then by 1985, GM had constructed their Hamtrack plant on the site to build 1986 GM luxury cars. The plant still exists today and occupies part of the original Chrysler site. The land for the GM plant was supposed to be taken by eminent domain but the citizens put up a fight and hid in a Catholic church for a number of days before finally agreeing to come out and settle matters. That appears to be code E7 Burnished Red exterior paint. Rest in peace, Mr. Hudson.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Super interesting information; thanks for sharing it here! HMM

[@googleusergp]

@@HistoryMysteryMan Sure thing.

[@davidschumaker8107]

You're saying that the VIN states that it was built with a 318. Then it must have had an engine swap, correct? I believe that I read a comment, from the first video, from a Mopar collector stating that the engine color was off.

[@googleusergp]

@@davidschumaker8107 It might have. Based on the VIN shown on the door it was a 318.

[@howiethornley8261]

I saw the car at the Mopar Nats in 2015, and it didn't have any hood emblems on it then.

[@deandee8082]

what's crazy is the Edmonds Fitzgerald very well may have delivered the ore that made that car.. WOW

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Now that's something I hadn't thought about. Thanks for sharing that here, Dean Dee. HMM

[@rbmkproductions2518]

A few things- 1. This car goes hard, it’s friggin awesome. Like I’d wanna drive this fast at sunset by the water with the windows down while Lana Del Rey is playing at max volume. That would be a whole vibe, I think. 2. I will make it my life’s goal to acquire this car simply so I can make the above vignette a reality. I will do anything in my (rather limited) power to get it. Will update this comment if I ever get my hands on it. Highly unlikely anything will ever happen but a girl can dream dammit.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Love it...keep those dreams alive. Thanks for watching...HMM

[@RonNorman-ie1nv]

You know the car was only 2 years old at the time of his death

[@JamesBerlo]

The Girl Knocking on His Mothers Door saying "I have your Sons Baby in my Belly" must have saved Her life,

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

I can't imagine that moment! Thanks again, James...HMM

[@spaceflight1019]

Dumb question: have you had Galen Govier document the car? The 360-4 was a rare option for the 1974 model year, and the final year of the Challenger and Barracuda production.

[@hemitodd]

I'm wondering who put a 340 in it

[@spaceflight1019]

@@hemitodd I need to look at the VIN on the build sheet to see what it came with. The last year for the E bodies was 1974. The last year for the 340 was 1973. Looking at how this car was optioned it was specifically ordered as an insurance beater, like the Satellite Sebring Plus that could be had with the U-code 440.

[@hemitodd]

I just paused the video when they show the door sticker, it has the letter G which would have meant it was originally a 318 car

[@spaceflight1019]

@@hemitodd Good eye! Now the mystery deepens...

[@dennismaxwell165]

@@spaceflight1019 The G in the vin = 318 car

[@jeffreybrandes881]

Now it all makes sense. The car was built in 1973, and has a 340 engine. A car built in 1974, would have been equipped with a 360.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks for clearing that up, Jeffrey! HMM

[@jeffreybrandes881]

@ScoobyDoo I can see your point.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

The motor is original...born as a 318 with a performance package added later -- cam, 4 barrel, etc.

[@jeffreybrandes881]

@@HistoryMysteryMan Thanks for the explanation. Beautiful story.

[@keithbaker1635]

I would say he left it at the Torco Dock, cause l believe that's where they always unloaded . So you unload and just stay tied up right there.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Not there's some great info; thanks for that! HMM

[@joelaichner3025]

The Muscle Car known as Gitcha Gumee

[@Flowerpower6972]

The pregnant girl showing up 5 months later. Why so long after the tragedy? As far as I know she has never been identified publicly. Always seemed a little strange to me.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Tough questions. No answers here. Thanks for watching...HMM

[@shoominati23]

I's funny they have all those liftrafts and tenders but in conditions like that - good luck getting a liferaft over the side. Back in WW2 if you were a merchantman and you got hit by a torpedo or the stern blown off by the deck gun of a U boat - the boat was hopefully going to burn for a bit before it went down and you generally had time to put the liferafts to sea - Heck - the captain might get everyone off the ship before putting her down!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Interesting perspective; thanks for sharing your thoughts here. HMM

[@franktaylor7617]

😞✊

[@julielaub6594]

Did he know that he conceived a child with his girlfriend before he died and have you seen pictures or yearbooks of his girlfriend from back then?

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Wow! This is a very good question and I'd love to find out the answer. Hopefully, the mother of his children and/or grandchildren will reach out to us. Thanks for the question, Julie! HMM

[@adelevotta4840]

Bruce’s mom must of held his sweet baby girl so close! Bruce left a beautiful gift of family for his Mom. ❤

[@Flowerpower6972]

Excellent question. .. I would think he did not know. But why the wait till April ‘76, as stated in video, to come forward with this news to Bruce’s mother?

[@georgejetson1923]

Did he paint it lime green???

[@ziggyben13]

Great car!! Your voice is hoarse…hope it’s better now.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Just an ole crusty sea-dog voice! Thanks for watching...HMM

[@omcara1]

Well I hate to tell you guys this but that is not a 1974, 340 Challenger. Its a 1974 (G code) 318 2-barreled Rally optioned Challenger, The "340 Magnum" call outs on the hood belong on a 73 and down Charger. The un-silenced air cleaner on the motor is circa late 1960's. And the car is missing its 1974 Federaly mandated 5 mph rubber bumpers smog hoses for the engine. There were NO 340 Challengers made in 1974. That engine was discontinued in 1973. A 360 was the biggest v8 available as well as the 318. This guy has possibly monkeyed around with this car and destroyed its originality and value. I like the way he talks so authoritatively about the 1974 Challengers and how they were assembled in their final model year run. LMAO!!!!!

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Oh cool...another genius know-it-all in the wings. Lord...you missed the entire point of the movie...that this man preserved the car once owned by Bruce Hudson, who went down on the Fitz. The owner is well aware that this original motor is a 318 with this '74 Challenger. The engine has received a performance package...cam, 4-barrel, etc. Sounds like you could use an overhaul too.

[@tomabdouch2754]

That car belongs to Bruce’s daughter, be a man and gift it too her.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Well, there wouldn't be a car if not for the gentleman who took on the expense and restored it. In the meantime, the car could not be in better hands, and whether he "gifts" the car or not does not, in any way, determine his manhood. HMM

[@tomabdouch2754]

@@HistoryMysteryMan Thanks for the interviews with The Captain, love his knowledge and stories.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

@@tomabdouch2754 You're welcome Tom; thanks for taking an interest. HMM

[@Flowerpower6972]

He had the blessing of Bruce’s mother. She drove the car for 5 years before she evidently sold it herself.

[@HARRYHOUDINI-w6i]

Everything it took to Build that car, came Down the if up lake st,clair,..

[@t.j.s8477]

My late best friend Mike York worked for oglebay Norton I had the pleasure to help them fit out the Yorktown Maumee River Toledo Ohio I miss you Mike thanks for everything God bless all you sailors stay safe.

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Thanks for sharing your story here...HMM

[@L72Chevelle427]

A little known fact is that Gordon Lightfoot donated most of the proceeds from the song "Edmund Fitzgerald" to the families of the victims...

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

That is sooo awesome! Thanks for sharing that here, Phil...HMM

[@bradhardy2629]

I'm a diehard Mopar man . hate to say it but a 74 Dodge Challenger had a 360 or 318 or slant 6 . Not a 340 . someone added the 340 magnum badges . My Ride is a 72 W-2 headed 340 Duster . Nasty little motor .

[@joshuawalls7102]

@bradhardy2629 so am I! I have Mopar tattoos lol I love love love Chrysler motors period! But I thought the same thing it looks like a 360

[@HARRYHOUDINI-w6i]

Good Reason why "NOT"" Sell the car, is Because you cant trust anyone else NOT to change or Destroy anything on the car or molest it in anyway,& you know your the one who keeps it a memory of a lost love one,& anybody else probably would,," change the motor & just Not make Bruce car anymore..

[@HistoryMysteryMan]

Yes...I believe Bruce's '74 Challenger is in the right hands; he takes excellent care of it HMM