Part 26, KISS - Vinnies Vincents Feedback, Aces and Peters Payback, Paul talking about the 80s

[@Ycjedi]

I love how Paul was pissed Vincent sold a guitar for more than it was worth, then proceeds to sell guitar strap used for one show for 10k dollars

[@pjbrown4736]

Missing the point. Vinnie conned fans out of money with cheap guitars, lying about them being used in the studio or onstage or that guitar being his "favorite". Make an argument with proper context. And Paul can sell what he wants, we're not obligated to buy it.

[@Whateves73]

He is being honest about what it is, and isn't lying to anybody! You really missed the point!

[@dwaynecollins4974]

No s*** right? I think he finally lowered the price because even hardcore fans had a hard time paying ridiculous amounts of money for a guitar he was going to break at the end of the show anyway

[@papichulo7415]

Or Gene Simmons playing a shitty bass for one song and selling that for 100 times more than it’s worth, much like all their merchandise.

[@mikerivera7509]

@@papichulo7415 don't forget the bass lessons he gave in that cruise

[@jamesythetrue]

Eric Carr's vocals during the a capella breakdown chorus are absolutely perfect. It's the perfect voice for that spot. Hard to believe he was very sick at the time.

[@RichardSleyster]

Coming from a recovering addict what Peter Criss said is 100% real. He is genuine.

[@richhornburg4497]

If VV had been more of a team player during his time in KISS imagine how big they would have gotten with him writing songs with Paul.

[@ziviaantjeverharius6165]

What a waiste, would have been a lot stronger material

[@dgenerated]

Some people are just like that.. Talent aside, they get in their own way and blow a once in a lifetime opportunity!.

[@bloodlinefilms]

I think Bruce was the better more dynamic player but Vinnie wrote nothing but stone cold winners. Maybe Vinnie in the band leads to Its My Life and Sword and Stone being huge hits by KISS.

[@williamthompson5504]

Too bad he broke Paul’s heart twice.

[@LorKen17021991]

@@bloodlinefilms Sword and Stone is by Bruce Kulick

[@InfiniteSunLuciferDLarynx]

Ace's interviews are hilarious with subtitles on.

[@markbirchette8740]

Paul, you sell your guitars for astronomical amounts to fans and give them the bums rush when you do. Pot calling the kettle black? I'm no fan of Vinnie's but mighty hypocritical of you. Mr. Lip sync!!😂😆

[@dwaynecollins4974]

No s*** right? I caught that too. 🙄

[@jondinan268]

Exactly! He'd play a cheap guitar for 30 seconds and sell it to a fan for thousands of dollars.

[@sabbathoneseveneight8643]

You beat me to it.😆

[@dwightrenfield2241]

Totally different. With Paul, you know exactly what you’re buying if you choose to purchase it.

[@jeffrykopis5468]

First of all, Paul actually USES the guitar onstage during that show before handing it over, just as Gene does. Second, Gene and Paul were FOUNDING MEMBERS and superstars, Vinnie was just BRIEFLY a hired hand. Third, in 20 years, when Gene and Paul are dead, THEIR autographed, stage-used guitars will be worth SEVERAL TIMES what the fans paid for them. THAT'S when I'll sell my KISS posters, albums, and paraphernalia from the 70s! 😂

[@rch6650]

i have been a huge KISS fan since the 70's and am,and will ALWAYS be team Ace,Peter & Vinnie.

[@markusaurelius777]

Vinnie is a douche, and his playing is lame af

[@har9020]

There's always more than one side to every story.

[@dwightrenfield2241]

And then there’s the truth.

[@lisag18]

Peter took the high road. Much respect for that

[@dwade6322]

He took 'The high road' ?? 😂 Have you read the amount of crap he has thrown toward Paul an Gene over the last 40 years?? Oh boy 🤦‍♂️

[@mikerivera7509]

Paul has quite a bit of nerve to mention himself among zeppelin and the who

[@scott6828]

what, you dont think Paul Stanley is as good as Jimmy Page?? 😂

[@pjbrown4736]

Vinnie deserves an Emmy for all the drama.

[@dwightrenfield2241]

Because Vinnie is suing Kiss “for the kids.” 🤣🤣 He’s such a turd.

[@stephenlandry9343]

Paul is right about playing guitar. I loved kiss and I wanted to play guitar but I found out quickly you have to learn from the past guitar players . I started with the blues. 47 years later and I'm still playing. I still love it.

[@stephenlandry9343]

@SpaceAce100 Me too, and that caused me to go to hendrix because Ace said it was on of his inspirations. That's what blew guitar playing and checking out all the influences of my favorite players wide open. It made kiss a solid band for me to learn from. I started hearing the influences of players in their music. I learned so much, but it wasn't always easy to be a kiss fan in the 70s. Remember how people never took them seriously? I never will understand that. Especially now when it seems everyone is a fan.

[@Betrayerslayer]

Same! Def after drying out

[@Betrayerslayer]

48, btw..

[@stephenlandry9343]

@@Betrayerslayer I guess alot of us started playing because of kiss. I'm closing in quick on 48 years of playing. Now if I can just figure out how to become younger I would have it made.😆

[@Betrayerslayer]

Gettin' old aint for wimps. Ooo boy

[@LisaRichards_123]

I love how Paul thinks he was in the only good hair band

[@lisag18]

Most of them were copycat bands and not exciting

[@stanlee-eq7lu]

Actually even throughout the years of KISS, there were far better bands, talent wise. If it wasn't for the makeup, KISS wouldn't have survived even after Alive!

[@nevasmith6587]

The songs , remind me of the times 🤗🤗🤗🤗 good song Choice ,, Rock On!!!

[@PulverizerA]

@ 6:29 Paul whines about Vinnie selling a guitar to a fan that he never played, for more than it would have cost in the store. Never mind that Paul said he used to call Gibson and have them send him guitars for free and then run them down to the music stores and sell them as soon as he got them. He never even took them out of the box to see if he might like them more than his current guitars. What the hell's the difference?

[@Stickitupyourtwat]

Paul thinks hes perfect in every way. A man of no faults.

[@MarceloRomero360]

You're right! Back in 1976/77 I would go to the guitar stores on 48h street and see his Gibson freebies selling in the window for hundreds of dollars.

[@haywoodyoudome]

Paul's Jewish. Should be no surprise he was selling something he got for free.

[@TheMICMusicInspirationChannel]

The difference is lying. Paul is saying that Vinnie lies about the guitars he sells, claiming that they were used by him on some song or whatever when they weren't. Paul and Gene profit from jacking the price up on instruments they used, but (as far as I know) they did really use them, at least.

[@MarceloRomero360]

@@haywoodyoudome Alright, Kanye

[@aceeg69]

Kissdiaries you should do a episode on Psycho Circus?

[@MarceloRomero360]

Paul is quite the hypocrite..Back in 1975 and 1976 Paul would sell his Gibson Marauder guitars to a used guitar shop on 48th street in Manhattan. The store was called WE BUY GUITARS. The same ones Gibson gave him for free to use at the end of shows during his guitar breaking moment. These guitars would be in the store's window with a card and his signature to show he was the previous owner. He had a nice little side business going. So for him to talk about Vinnie's ethics is hilarious.

[@j.reveille6815]

And that’s the least of it.

[@mikerivera7509]

You can say that again

[@christheghostwriter]

You mean back when the band was still scraping by? Also, there's a difference between being sneaky and dishonest with your bandmates and doing something above board where the buyers know what they're getting

[@MarceloRomero360]

@@christheghostwriter You think in 1976 KISS was "scrapping by"?

[@christheghostwriter]

@@MarceloRomero360 You have never worked in the music biz, have you? I'm sure you have heard of the Grateful Dead, right? A band that started in the 60s? Jerry Garcia didn't have enough money for a house until the late 70s. People have an unrealistic idea of how money works in the music biz, especially in the 70s. Paul Stanley still lived at his parent's house for years after they started making records.

[@zeprls]

The crowd during Paul’s little VV rant are a bunch of bobble heads. “You want to get into it” he says and the worst thing he can think of is that Vinnie sold a guitar to someone who was willing to pay for it. And the crowd is like….. how dare he. All this coming from the most marketed band in history. Should have called Paul out and asked if he was serious.

[@dwightrenfield2241]

At least with Kiss, you know what you’re buying if you choose to purchase it.

[@davidpaul6656]

I think the fact that Vinnie never played that guitar, yet sold it for more than it cost in the store. Which the kid probably paid because he thought Vinnie HAD played it.

[@michaeljones1445]

Paul the one eared Stanley will sit there bitching about everyone, but call him out on the sl8ght3st thing and he starts crying like a girl...Paul Thhhtanley....you suck.

[@AkDragosani]

Vinnie V.. 1 Strange Bird 🐦

[@scottlowe7343]

also pretty sure that Bruce, Carr, & Singer never had to be replaced in the studio...

[@simonjames1604]

they all got fired by the band so.....

[@andrewbroughton65]

Carr was replaced in the studio for the song "I" on The Elder album ..Ezrin thought His shuffle ability was inadequate.

[@meatwad1]

"Being treated like a secondhand citizen was heart-rendering to me." -- Peter Criss

[@somewhatsomething4882]

The most profound sentence to be written or uttered by any member of Kiss 😂😂

[@meatwad1]

@@somewhatsomething4882 I know. It brought tears to my eyes. I hope Peter has it engraved on his tombstone.

[@somewhatsomething4882]

@@meatwad1 haha 👍

[@har9020]

@@somewhatsomething4882 Despite it being grammatically incorrect. I think he means "heartbreaking" or "heart wrenching".

[@mnbv990]

@@har9020 or heartrending?

[@321ssteeeeeve]

Eric Carr seems to be the only non-founding member that really understood and respected what the KISS corporation was about and I hear this in what Gene and Stanley try to convey. Though the other two founding members that didn’t last were absolutely vital to the band, they didn’t seem to get it.

[@connorshaw2618]

No Paul. The WHO never dressed as ridiculous as y'all did.

[@Drfrostybrew]

Townsend did other things 👀

[@everydaystuffandthingsguy4554]

If VV wasn’t part of Creatures or Lick it up then KISS would have written another Unmasked or The Elder. VV might have been difficult but the man was just as talented, if not more than every member of KISS that were hired “guns” throughout the years. Gene and Paul always made it clear that whoever was in the band was an employee and had no say in any band matters. So with that being said I dont blame VV for protecting himself from Paul and Gene and that meant not signing his talent, his livelihood, and his lyrics away for peanuts. He should get paid for his efforts and to be honest he was HUGE saving KISS because at that time they were basically finished. VV just did things his way fighting fire with fire.? He was difficult only because he was very aware of his ability. Let’s face it that Paul and Gene were were writing crap at the time.

[@gary_stavropoulos]

Ace: “I had the most successful Gibson signature series guitar in history” It was a Les Paul

[@gary_stavropoulos]

@Coogan Page’s probably was more popular, but my mocking point also applies to his. The Les Paul was the signature guitar of Les Paul I find calling a modified version of someone else’s signature guitar your signature guitar to be funny.

[@TheKitchenerLeslie]

​@@gary_stavropoulos I made a copy of the the Jimmy Page Les Paul for $8,000.00 less. It had the push/pull pots, phase cancelling, series, parallel... shaved down neck. The guy who customized the guitar for me was the son of Elizabeth Montgomery from Bewitched, his name is Bill Asher and he's a genius. He was scared to shave down a Les Paul neck so far, but it came out perfect. Instead of Gibson Pickups, I used the pickups Slash used -- Seymour Duncan Alnico II's... it sounded liked Jimmy Page meets Slash... it was such a great guitar!

[@oswaldfife5183]

7:00 what is that song

[@kissdiaries]

"And On the 8th Day" of "Lick It Up"

[@97warlock]

God gave R&R To you II takes me back to a much much beter time ...... 1990 and the early 90s ..... KISS were resurfacing & randomly showing up then the conventions & the world of KISS collecting was at its most exciting & was a wide open never ending fun ride. The huge scores Id find in the wild of things Ive never even knew existed. Promo items, Poster Art sets, Super rare stuff, for Dirt cheap. ..... ihad had it all. Sealed Originals 8 Track, Jc Penny items, Solo belt buckles, trashcans curtain, Bedspread sleeping bag, Halloween costumnes in the box Return of KISS tourbook, the real ones, not the reprints. Got them from Security gaurd at L.C.C. paid 17.00 for 2 books & Roadie Jumpsuit, Dynasty Sponge & a few more items, collecting back 8in the day was THE BEST imo

[@stanleybroniszewsky8538]

If you ask me, the KISS conventions that existed before Gene and Paul got involved with were far better in terms of collectable stuff. Official things are actually less interesting because they are KISS approved. I'd rather have a video that shows Gene and Peter having a heated debate that almost ensues in an actual fight than Paul getting fitted for a new stage costume.

[@sethallison5682]

I grew up in the 90’s, I saw kiss at age 8 in 1994. My step dad similarly collected TONS of excellent stuff during that time period. Our house was full of cool kiss shit. He still has a lot of it in storage. Recently he sent me a box with some stuff, an ace solo belt buckle was in there. It was before the internet and we would go to pawn shops, used music stores etc and find all this great stuff. Good times.

[@UseYourIllusions78]

Mandel effect ...its always been JC Penney ... although i also REMBER JC PENNY ;)

[@chatgpt-n8r]

is this an Ace song in the beginning?

[@Justisleague42]

Whats that first song? Does anyone know?

[@kissdiaries]

Little Caesar by Eric Carr

[@dirkjewitt5037]

That's the first pic that I could tell that Vinnie wasn't Victoria.

[@mikerivera7509]

Peter and Ace we know that you are the real deal

[@ginsunh]

Peter is a pathological liar who can barely read or write. If all 4 of them were like Peter, the band wouldn’t have lasted 6 months.

[@LOUIS-np6be]

WHAT WOULD PETER PLAY TAMBORINE

[@Dan-cl3md]

​@@LOUIS-np6be LOUISE......... Look up what Eddie Kramer has to say about Peters drumming on Alive 1 album . The ONLY member of KISS that DIDN'T need their tracks re- recorded in the studio . You probably don't even know who Eddie Kramer is... do you . Everytime I see your comments I laugh my head off because you wouldn't dare to put up those lists I've been asking for you to write . YOU HAVE NOTHING

[@vladvalenwood6803]

Stanley sure does complain a lot in his old age. A lot of bands made a lot of good music in the 80s also. Lot of us fans love the movie Kiss Meets the Phantom of the park. It's the crap you do now Stanley that sucks but you think you are so sophisticated and intelligent now. But sorry to say you just sound like an old crotchety lady nowadays. And he's still my favorite of the band though

[@mikerivera7509]

Read his book and you are in for some serious crybaby time. He stays complaining and blaming everyone else

[@junkboxxxxxx]

0:59 the nerve of Paul ragging other bands for having "no soul, no roots" when they pride themselves on being simply a screaming silly good time flash band

[@lucas8095]

I think V.V wanted to be treated as an equal instead of an employee like Thayer and Singer 🤔

[@devnull73]

Cher really did have a nice tush back in the day

[@josephrivett7378]

Million dollar ass and legs !!!

[@julianpohlman2676]

@@josephrivett7378 so did ur mum

[@stephenlandry9343]

With thoughts of Cher I slept soundly afterwards. If you catch my drift!

[@christinegatto7426]

She once said she worked out 4 hours a day, because she liked the way it looked.

[@jondinan268]

I wonder if she caught Herpes from Gene?

[@aceeg69]

Do one on Psycho Circus

[@scott6828]

Vinnie Vincent Invasion was actually the band Slaughter. When Vinnie fired Mark Slaughter halfway through a tour the entire band quit Vinnie and left with Mark....they knew who had the real talent.

[@Errcyco]

Genes performance in Runaway did produce one of the funniest performances of the year.. I don't think that's what he was going for though.

[@scottlowe7343]

Peter & Ace... and alot of people... forget that KISS had 13 releases between 80-95 without them. most of them doing pretty well. i think all at least went gold. some platinum. yes the original lineup paved the way, but alot of history/success without Peter & Ace.

[@michaeljones1445]

Yup, and we can't remember a single one...but we know every note between 1974-1980

[@derralle5705]

Some people seem to forget that Kiss once have been The Hottest Band In The World. There's nothing wrong with being a successful, hard working and well of hair metal band. I would do that if I could. But I liked them so much better when they were unique, outstanding and legendary.

[@Dan-cl3md]

No comparison . Just look at the numbers .

[@scottlowe7343]

@@Dan-cl3md yeah look at the numbers of Ace & Peter's solo careers....

[@Dan-cl3md]

@@scottlowe7343 I thought we were talking about KISS after Ace Peter .

[@STRONGMAN415]

Kiss is still the only band that put full replacement members as hired help signed contract that put them on salary and received no royalties towards any song they wrote. But had to act like they where a team screw that.And where treated like trash by Paul and Gene they had no rights and could not speak up and where fined .Screw that

[@mikerivera7509]

And put in fakers in the original paint

[@christheghostwriter]

This is lie. VV still gets royalty checks for what he wrote and co-wrote, and so does Desmond Child and all the other co-writers. VV wanted a full membership and a piece of music that he didn't write, and he rightfully got laughed out of the courtroom when he tried to sue

[@stanleybroniszewsky8538]

And if you do some looking around, when Eric Carr was in the hospital with cancer, Paul and Gene kept trying to get Eric to sign paperwork to quit the band. Even Eric had some brushes with Paul during the Hot In The Shade time. Paul was probably looking for an opportunity to fire him (afterall, Paul runs KISS - Ace and even Bruce said so). Eric refused to sign anything. His family knew about it. Then at Eric's funeral, Ace was there, perhaps Peter as well. Everyone loved Ace but had total animosity to Gene and Paul. And then they couldn't figure out why. Look at how you tried getting Eric to quit. Any momo could have figured that out.

[@stanleybroniszewsky8538]

​@@christheghostwriter- it IS the truth. Just look at it from the outside looking in. KISS did the song God Gave Rock And Roll To You for the one Bill and Ted movie. Eric Carr was dying of cancer yet he wanted to be on the song and video so badly, they let him. Eric had to wear a wig because of being bald from the chemotherapy. Did Gene and Paul have the heart to bother putting the version with Eric Carr on Revenge? Even though it sounded great, they didn't. They put the version with Eric Singer on the album. And for one reason only. If the version with Eric Carr was on Revenge, Eric's family would be receiving royalty payments from the sales. Since it was re-recorded with Eric Singer, Eric Carr's family gets zero, zilch, nada.... NOTHING! Paul and Gene made great music. But still, they'd stop driving on the highway if they saw a shiny quarter sitting on the side of the road. That's what they are, deep down inside them.

[@Dan-cl3md]

​@@christheghostwriterYou need to get over your indecent obsession with Paul Stanley . I'll tell you a little story about what sort of a person Paul Stanley is........... When Eric Carr joined KISS , Paul Stanley bought Eric Carr a Porsche . When Eric told Paul he was going to paint the car camoflauge ...... Paul told him he couldn't . What sort of weirdo does that ???? PAUL.... The car doesn't belong to you.... you gave it to Eric . Not to mention how they treated him when he was on his death bed . Disgusting behaviour , and yet when he turns up at Eric's funeral ,he can't figure out why everyone hates him . Typical behaviour from Paul and Gene . They are soooo into themselves that they can't see the forest through the trees

[@jamesjames2070]

Paul is always so negative

[@jamesjames2070]

@@LucasVigor I never read about him saying anything good about anyone . Must be difficult to make him happy

[@xerotonin6776]

Anyone who's heard his audiobook bio knows he does give props. But only where it's deserved, as he should. I've long since been done with the non-self-aware and the non-self-accountable. Of course, head-slap moments are there.

[@MrOccyc]

I can see Stanley and Simmons lack of interest in dealing with Cris’s and Frehley. Dealing with addicts is exhausting. Especially when they are destroying your livelihood.

[@robgray4188]

Peter was always the biggest whiner of the band, accepted no responsibility for anything. He created a lot of his hell. Gene and Paul sure they are complete jerks too. I grew up with this band as my hero’s since 74… I know a lot about them I mean a lot. So much I could share but why.. it was never about fans or caring about anything more than money! But hey they did it at any cost.

[@ca3317]

As Paul Sells guitars way overpriced to fans as well. I guess he took a page from vinnies book on that guitar selling thing. Lol.

[@dwightrenfield2241]

Sure, they’re expensive. But Paul isn’t lying about what he’s selling.

[@junkboxxxxxx]

He didn't kick up an envelope to the don.

[@seangiuliani2552]

Ummm I'll never forget or forgive Paul for Brittany Fox.

[@dwade6322]

What do you mean?

[@Mannard74]

So, was Vinnie paid (by KISS) $550 per week or $2000 a week. I've heard two different stories.

[@j.reveille6815]

About 2k a month

[@kafesociety1759]

@@j.reveille6815…which BTW is the equivalent of $6500 in today’s dollars, whether they worked or not. Thats good money for a working musician. If he’d had signed the damn contract he’d have made even more. And that’s not even counting performance royalties for all the songs he co-wrote, so he did alright. Vinnie is Vinnie’s worst enemy.

[@ozzfest72]

90% of "Hair Metal" was infinitely better than what Kiss put out during that time period

[@jeffjackson9679]

I don't know about that. Other than Dokken, Cinderella, maybe Ratt, most of those bands from that era were garbage (and I grew up in the 80s).

[@wolf335599]

"Team player" In any company when you work hard and show your commitment to it they make you a partner. In KISS they keep you as an employee with no more profits than a salary. Oh yeah, "team player"...

[@jonvisser1509]

I don't understand some of what Paul is actually talking about. A band like Poison is alot like Kiss Brett is Paul CC the Ace role no Gene type but Bobbie was known not just a bass player and Rikki Rockett had his own style. Paul seems to forget stuff he loved dancing around in Lick it up and Heaven's on fire videos. Hair bands are a love child of Kiss Alice Cooper Aerosmith Ted nugent Van Halen and Cheap Trick.

[@ViniciusFiocco]

Yep...KISS sound was way better in the 70s, except for Creatures of the Night which is a hell of an album

[@ViniciusFiocco]

@@wolf335599 Thats why Eric Singer and Thayer went so well, they don't fancy bigger stuff...They are just studio/live pro musicians, who wouldnt contribute much but will play whatever Gene and Paul want to straight forward...in exchange they wil have a comfortable living

[@Betrayerslayer]

5:33

[@Betrayerslayer]

...aint so much a lawg in de fire place, vut ill take it

[@wagnerpaivafernandes]

I don't understand the point of inserting the songs into the documentary. I have listened to them a million times. Just the interviews are new to us

[@kissdiaries]

I like it that way, that`s why ;)

[@junkboxxxxxx]

Dude ⏩⏩

[@kevinkaatz883]

Mrs. Cusano cares so much about people, he's showing via charging $500 for his signature. Other than signing Bills of Exchange, What's the fascination with signatures?

[@rvd1269]

Sorry Gene, Ace is a way better guitar player than Vinnie. Vinnie just used more flash and speed technique to look better but Ace could play better riffs and had more soul in his live playing. Gibson has a limited edition LP guitar 🎸 with Ace's name on it. Vinnie has no model with his name on it. Who's the better guitarist you say? I rest my case, enough said! 🤘

[@drillbag]

uhh, what about the Jackson Vinnie Vincent double V???

[@haywoodyoudome]

@@drillbag That's right. The double V, just like a two headed dildo. Perfect for a douche like Vinnie.

[@j.reveille6815]

Say what you want about what vinnie chose to play , usually way too much to impress . It was the 5 yrs of hyper guitar playing on the scene but he could play rings around Ace And I love Ace. Ace is kiss. Vinnie was a great song writer and guitar player tho.

[@mikerivera7509]

ACE IS A LEGEND

[@Betrayerslayer]

Matter of taste. Completely subjective.

[@jeremycline9542]

They say Vinnie was a good singer. What songs featured him.

[@naz7t]

Did i just hear Gene mention ethics lol

[@michaeljones1445]

Funny how Ace, Peter, Vinnie..all sacrificed their talent to keep Paul Stanley thinking he had any talent of his own....Paul Stanley, you suck...you are the Prince Harry of music

[@WilliamCurry-bh3dk]

VV what could of been

[@MichaelTheLibertarian]

Why would use a photo of Peter's (debunked) imposter?

[@kissdiaries]

That is Peter at a Talkshow, talking about that Issue ;)

[@onionsavoya1506]

But 80s bands could really play though. I mean i hear Paul putting down 80s fashions and trends but that was the best era for hard rock ever. I mean todays guitar playing is no where as good as the 80s. The lyrics today are all brutality and no sex appeal. No wonder kids are growing up to be hermaphrodites. No other entertainment is more sexual than music. Sex and music to me are hand in hand at least to me. I mean listen to Lamb of God or Messuganuh or Gojira.. The closest they get to any kinda sexy whould be bondage Violence and obsession. At least in the 70 and 80s bands wanted to get laid....which leads to you know...living

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

Absolutely. No pitch correction either.

[@vanessaa7602]

No one grows up to be a hermaphrodite. People are born that way!

[@naturalbornscorpio929]

Although true, all those compliments towards Vinnie went to his head. As talented as Vinnie mite be he has failed to release any music in the last 35years. Unfortunately Vinnie isn't a team player and does not play well with others and on his own its doubtful he will ever release anything in the future.

[@markjamesmeli2520]

I'll take "Rock Soldiers" over most ANYthing on LICK IT UP.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

That album by Ace is awesome

[@dwightrenfield2241]

Yuck. No way.

[@jeremywanner4526]

If I want to watch clowns I’ll go to the circus

[@mikerivera7509]

Gene said Vinnie can play circles around Ace, yeah...I don't think so. Then he went onto say Vinnie writes better songs than gene ....ok I'll give him that...put another log in your fireplace

[@Betrayerslayer]

😂 that lyric!!!

[@Betrayerslayer]

I love both

[@mikerivera7509]

@Coogan if you mean with the technical stuff, I imagine Vincent would be better. But not everyone likes all that stuff and Ace has more feeling in his playing.

[@robgray4188]

Lmao kiss members including Paul and gene were selling guitars and stuff at meet and greets for $5000 and sure I get it vinnie lied and said it was one of his favorites but gene and Paul rip off the fans the real ones that don’t have deep pockets to pay camera y prices. Those are the fans that would cherish something cool that’s affordable for the rest of their life and pass it down to their kids. Gene and Paul also do everything for big money, always have. Nothing was done for the fans, it was always for their greed including how they treated their hired help.

[@terjeweum3677]

Paulina dated Cher 's sister and datet Shannon's sister / took up acting lessons/ Did all the things Gene did😅Has his house close to Gene/ Had her own psycolog/psychiatrist as a manager in that Desmond Child band inthe 80tees😅/ Could go on and on with her hypocritical behaviour/All I can give as advice to youngsters out there is / Dont read selfbiograpics books of yore heroes it will make trouble hearing the songs/ music later/ For me Kiss Alive saved me from tons of sadness in my youth / stayed in my room listen to it and looking at my poster onthe wall and I was in heaven👍😎👍 For me Kiss are the 4 original members♥️All other lineups are not the same to me / and dont give me that crap about a band is brand or like sporsteam/ Just change the members and all be fine🙄

[@slamponyp]

13:40 Peter says the Butler did it!! What a tool....

[@stanlee-eq7lu]

I actually think it would have been really idiotic to maintain the makeup, especially when Lick It Up was released. Fifty years of nothing but makeup? That would have been more of a crutch to lean on rather than trying to stay relevant. COTN was one such example.

[@kevinkaatz883]

I don't find anything spectacular about Tommy & Eric - period. Those 2 goofballs can't touch Ace & Peter

[@jeffjackson9679]

Eric (Both Carr and Singer) could drum circles around Peter. It's like comparing Ronnie Wood to Eric Clapton and Peter Green, not even in the same universe.

[@Billy-Box]

@@jeffjackson9679 Eric was a simple heavy metal drummer. There are THOUSANDS of them. It's obvious you don't know anything about drums.

[@Billy-Box]

@@jeffjackson9679 And, if you don't get it - listen to concerts in the 80s when Eric played. It's sounds like SHIT.

[@mikerivera7509]

Fakers

[@LOUIS-np6be]

@@jeffjackson9679 YES RITE ON SHE IS SOOOOOO JEALOUS!!!

[@andrewbroughton65]

I forgot how bad Gene sounded trying to sing high range on those lick it up songs..Yikes

[@stanleyadamcio6980]

No wonder Paul has no friends lol

[@LOUIS-np6be]

LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT MR STANLEY HAS ON WEEKENDS

[@MrOccyc]

Dealing with Frehley and Criss must have been exhausting. Never trust an addict.

[@stanlee-eq7lu]

That's one of the reasons Gene didn't want Eddie Van Halen to join KISS after Ace left. He knew Eddie, as good as he was, he would have been a repeat of Ace with his addiction issues. I don't blame Gene at all.

[@jpalexander292]

Paul says all this shit about hair metal but I would put Kiss as The Godfather’s of Hair metal. Nothing against that but don’t act as if you are above that as you are that. Problem was in the 80’s there was many better hair metal bands then Kiss so Kiss fell into the same category as a Ratt or Cinderella.

[@haywoodyoudome]

Paul wrote "Let's Put the X in Sex" and "Read My Body"....two of the worst songs in the KISS catalog and complete hair metal cheesy garbage. He's got a real selective memory when it comes to criticizing others.

[@melissas4874]

He talks shit about it because he's upset with himself for trying to fit in with it even if he can't admit it. He initially says they were trying to fit in to what was played on MTV (which was "hair metal") to get more air time. He negates himself constantly.

[@jeffrykopis5468]

Peter proved how uneducated he is by saying "second hand" (not second CLASS) citizens, and "heart rendering" (not rending). Rendering means drawing. Rending means tearing.

[@MizzesB]

VV is like any of us Musicians. NUTS. His Talent and Songwriting as Gene points out was better. Lick It Up and Creatures and what he did in terms of helping Kiss was at a time where they also were about to take off that Make-Up. He writes songs why should he not be paid. There was no Spotify. I appreciate Kiss after VV but never as much as the Copycat ...copying the style that was Popular. Carnival of Lost Souls is an excellent example. . Kiss with the original 4 Members is why in 2022 I am commenting. This is what Kiss will always be. The Original 4 members.Oh and the Channel is Awesome. So was VV .

[@seangiuliani2552]

Sooooooo much of wat they did is cheesy as hell and don't hold up

[@davidcruz6562]

Wow! Paul Stanley was selling his stage played guitar for $20.000 and if you want the strap it's an extra $1,500.... pppfff Get out!!!

[@usaslakt]

Talks about "other bands" and do the exact same thing. And yes Paul, you also made som horrible songs. Radar for love, read my body and x in sex is some of them. It doesn't really matter that much since did great stuff before, and after that. But please keep your mouth shut :)

[@lisag18]

Ace talking about Gene about not being a drug addict (but he is a sex addict-priding yourself on screwing women isnt something to brag about) and marketing himself. Gene is a good songwriter, bass player. KISS songs wouldnt be KISS songs without his bass. Ace, your life experience is not the kind people can look up to. Ace was a handful to deal with and honestly, i would've kicked him out of the band in 74

[@warriorv9359]

Vinnie had more talent and class than gene or paul

[@Liquidmuse3]

😅 the guy who collected money from fans and never delivered a box set is classy?

[@josephrivett7378]

I think THAT was probably a lot of their problem with VV

[@warriorv9359]

All this is he said she said bullshit fac t is gene and paul rip off their fans lip singing and when he does sing it sounds like shit they should wrapped it up 20 years ago but they want more abd more money so yeah they have no class all they do is talk shit about evrey old member of kiss they use imposters wearing Peter n Aces makeup evrey old school real kiss fan knows that

[@dwightrenfield2241]

Without Kiss, you would never have heard of Vinnie Vincent. Kiss gave him recognition.

[@Charles-jn5vo]

Gene was never a good songwriter

[@christopherm.6991]

Peter Ace Vinnie. All ungrateful

[@Darth-Claw-Killflex]

This is horribly thrown together.

[@MarceloRomero360]

Your parents horribly threw YOU together.

[@haywoodyoudome]

@@MarceloRomero360 Fuckin' ouch......awesome.

[@dwightrenfield2241]

So, where’s YOUR perfect version on KZbin?

[@jeremywanner4526]

The version that documents a real bands with actual talent.

[@ferox965]

You add too much music in these videos.

[@kissdiaries]

Question of taste

[@ferox965]

@kissdiaries I disagree. I love the interview parts. I don't mind a bit of music spliced in for context, but you leave almost entire songs in. It's like you are trying to pad the video or something. Otherwise, your vids are excellent.

[@kissdiaries]

@@ferox965 why don‘t you start a Kiss Channel yourself?

[@johnleeder-pf6xd]

I bet Paul wanted his slice of that Vinnie sold guitar action how dare he...that would have made it acceptable but its never acceptable TBH Id rather an Ace signed Guitar his classic Gibson sunburst unplayed as long as it was his signature guitar with his signature....however I would walk over hot coals to get Vinnies flying V from the 82 or 83 RIO concert ...with Genes signature on it haha

[@raulrodriguez9892]

Peter Chris is a walking contradition..smh

[@haywoodyoudome]

Peter -Chris- _Criss_ If you're gonna rag on the guy at least try to spell his name right.

[@dannybam1]

Lot of wish wash talking Peter

[@robgray4188]

Lmao kiss members including Paul and gene were selling guitars and stuff at meet and greets for $5000 and sure I get it vinnie lied and said it was one of his favorites but gene and Paul rip off the fans the real ones that don’t have deep pockets to pay camera y prices. Those are the fans that would cherish something cool that’s affordable for the rest of their life and pass it down to their kids. Gene and Paul also do everything for big money, always have. Nothing was done for the fans, it was always for their greed including how they treated their hired help.